flats i got gold here. a group of 3 cheaters. played against them twice. they almost lost. they turned their cheats up to 11. i have the entire game share link saved. please give this a watch someone.
I’ll be honest, I still have moments where I accidentally virus a wall because I forget Sombra has a rework. This guy though was on a whole other level
I kept doing that in the Halloween event and my friend just turned to me as zarya and we were in voice chat but he didn't say anything I could just see the disappointment
i started playing again recently (stopped due to disappointement with blizzard regarding the PVE) and having played sombra quite a lot, i have this muscle memory that trigger when i respawn to press Lshift to go invisible. it only happen sometimes on respawn but i can understand people still doing it since it happen to me too but damn that's another level of muscle memory for this cheater
I also felt weird at the begining so i swapped it, but then i realised its felt even more weird cause the old tp button was on E .So i swapped them back and just get used to the new controls
I will say as a Sombra player and someone who watches all the Sombra streamers. Hack + Virus isn't always the best since it will give the enemy more warning and can have you miss out of some extra damage in exchange for less burst. She isn't just harder in the lack of a free escape but the complex interactions with each situation.
@@Ontarianmm True, it basically makes no difference. Like you said, its more worth it to just shoot. Honestly its more advantages to just melee the target to finish them off in some cases
to be fair this was right after the rwork released before people had time to feel it out. And it can stop people avoiding some of the damage using a cleanse.
To be fair on the cheater (reluctantly), I tried Sombra for the first time in ages today and the first thing I did after walking forward was shoot virus out of spawn on muscle memory. I think most people used to her go invisible instantly with Lshift for the movement speed. It took me a while to not use Lshit to go invisible.
@@PhantomEnderium yea having virus as the Lshift ability was a weird decision by the devs considering most people use Lshift for escape abilities. I swapped those too ASAP.
I think that even the people that argue “well maybe they are a good player from another game so just their aim is good” can’t on this one. Any competent player from any game would have realized that throwing the virus out of spawn doesn’t do anything after doing it two times max. This guy did it like 100 times.
That- theyre both in comms, or she has good team awareness. Im a Moria who will go for blood as well if my supports are getting targeted by flankers. Not to mention- the Sombra is SUPER PREDICTABLE on who she’s targeting. Chances are they were banking on the Sombra continually coming back to get more support beatings. Lmaooo
Because of how strong heals are its actually better to 1v1 dps who cant self heal. Any healing neuters virus's damage, but an out of position solo dps who isnt like 76 mei or reaper cant really deal well with the combo.
On the topic of swapping buttons, I put Virus to right click since that feels more like an alternate fire ability to me, i put translocator on shift since thats where most of my other movement abilities are bound, and hack is E. I do use my mouse thumb buttons for these inputs, with the forward thumb button being shift, and the back thumb button being E :)
While intuitive, this would completely fuck up my muscle memory with old sombra, so I’ve left mine default and just been trying to get used to them. If it works for you though, than great!
I have Translocator on one of the side buttons on my mouse. Abilities that I have to aim feel better if they're on the mouse. Virus is on right button though.
To be fair I still struggle with adapting when abilities change too. I do this too sometimes when I walk out of spawn and try to go invis but throw virus instead
New characters are prevented from playing comp for two weeks after launch. Why are reworked characters getting the same treatment. A rework is fundamentally changing some key core function(s) to make how the character(s) preform, essentially making them a different, or new threat. Why was sombra not given the same adjustment time.
While yes, thats understandable, the sombra rework wasnt as big of a gamechanger as, for example, orisa and doom. She kept her core game design, just shifted around a few things.
I disagree, as a former sombra main, her kit's fundemental design and rhythms are totally borked. You went from freedom of control to "whelp, this is you now!" and it's been really frustrating. Forced invis is absolutely atrocious, and the auto teleport is useless. Her gun is the only unchanged thing.
@@aeches That's only true for some Sombra mains. People more like Questron already were playing her this way (more or less). It wasn't too big a change, other than virus being on the key most people think of as an escape key.
@@aeches rythmm is changed but her role and playstyle really arent any different, just the route to getting actual value with her is more straightforward for the average player. just because YOU don't know how to use Translocator effectively doesn't make it useless. "freedom of control" before was basically 95% of Sombras wasting time getting failed attempts to assassinate support, trans back to healthpack, spending ages to get back into the team fight, and rinse and repeat while basically being a wasted member slot for their team. At least now with virus she is a more consistent threat and "frontline sombra" isn't actually completely useless anymore
I think the problem with Sombra is if you go on point and forget to not shoot or hit something or emote you go invis and sometimes that may cost you a point if you don’t touch.
The hard part is the support mains that don't know they actually need to heal their Sombra now. Health pack translocators are dead and gone This is still an an issue in plat and low diamond. I'd have expected more people above Gold would read up patch notes, because, you know, you're in the ranks where that matters...
I heal everyone 🥲 when I see the alert on screen that someone is at low health, I just go to them automatically. Doesn't matter who they are. Last time I played comp (which was in ow1), I only made plat.
Yes, it is so much better with it swapped. My reasoning being escape/movement abilities on practically almost every hero are on Lshift and not E, while damage abilities are on E for those heroes. Makes it so much more streamlined and easier.
Shift used to be turning on the cloak, which is hard muscle memory. Took me like 20 games to get out of throwing virus at walls and out of spawn I still sometimes do it...
Hack + Virus gives the enemy time to react. If you just Virus + Shoot out of stealth you end up with a better chance of killing most targets. The only time I open with hack is vs something like a Moira who I can kill before their fade comes back up and has no chance of 1v1ing me if I hit my shots. Hack + Virus + a few shots just deletes them before their cooldowns can save them. Most other characters have a good chance of 1v1ing you if you tip them off too early. The ttk doesn't go down enough to warrant hacking most targets before trying to0 1v1 them. I typically just save hack to either help my team shred a tank and cancel their defensive cooldowns for a sec, or to cancel important abilities.
I’ve played Sombra a lot (both versions), and honestly, this new version is much more fun to play, and picked right up her kit. All those times they threw Virus they were trying to stealth cause LShift was stealth, and Translocator has always been E. Ppl that switch Translocator and Virus either didn’t play lots of Sombra 1.0 or are just weird, or maybe both 🤭
@@aeches you’re right, I forgot she had a rework before. It’s just that her previous kit was “there” for so long I called it 1.0. For clarification, when I said “1.0” I meant the previous kit, and “2.0” is the current kit, even tho it’s not 2.0 xD
first thing i did when sombra rework hit was swap buttons XD pretty much every movement character has their movement ability on shift it feels more natural
The beginning of this video made me think I was watching one of the old spectating videos from OW1 😂. I’ve already binged all those, so I was ready to just hit next video in the queue.
I muscle memory’d virus out of spawn a bunch of times too but when I did I’d always remember to throw translocator after, they just completely gave up 😭
Somra is pretty ok now, but they need to adjust her cooldowns just a smidgen. I personally think she gets her translocator a bit too fast. Instead of beat back the sombra until she tps out, she'll tp behind you and reingage combat from a different angle 5 seconds later.
when sombra got reworked as a ow1 sombra main it's hurt a lot and sombra become actually really hard to play after i need spend time on her for learn her more
This guy either has his ui turned off or he has a SEVERE case of ‘lack of awareness. Because even though I don’t do overwatch, I would have seen that the target was not dying or getting hurt and adjusted my play. And EVEN WITH CHEATS THIS GUY DOES NOT REALIZE HIS TARGET ISNT GETTING HURT
13:06 I don't think he was trying to kill through the wall, I think he just is incapable of learning that shift doesn't make you go invis anymore. Seems like they wanted the speed boost with invis there. I am guessing this person thinks that the cheats are messing with his keybinds in some way and is just that dumb.
2:15 YES, she is lowkey slightly worse. Yeah, they dropped the skill FLOOR, but the skill CEILING was also dropped quite a bit. She's been 'kinda' shoehorned into the Sombra 76 sub-role Pre-rework Sombra kinda had multiple playstyles, tho most people only ever used healthpack/translocator flanking styles, and badly at that. (honestly that style was only good against hard dive, denying Ball the Megas) Sombra 76 is playing with the tank and focusing on chip damage from frontline with flanking translocator plays as needed for pushing. It's a lot harder to use her as an assassin/dive dps than it used to be. Especially a good Ana that lands a sleep and you have no 'mash' trans escape available. My opinions are from a plat perspective tho, so higher ranks might be worse/better depending.
Flats with the f take on sombra, she is essentially tracer now but invisible, you pick a target, throw virus, if it connects burn your target then tp out, if it doesn't connect up to you but usually tp out, by the time you turn around virus is off of cd and rinse and repeat. Hack is now your big cd like res almost, it is your interrupt, don't worry about using it for the extra DMG with virus too much because once you use it you have nothing to stop several ults and big abilities (res), it isn't the hack everyone remembers that had hacked on your screen half the game and perma locked out of your abilities, it's now a scalpel that you have to time to save your team or keep a fight in your favour. Emp is just an AOE hack (great for some ult combos, terrible for others) , pick target, emp, virus and burn with shooting, again, if you miss the virus usually get out but you can now burn more easily after emp, YMMV Edit: virus does the same DMG if you hack or don't hack, the difference is that virus ticks faster, it is like Moira orb with a DMG fast button, hacking your target first gives away your location, like tapping them on the shoulder first, if you don't hack them the dps you do is enough to kill a squishy and walk away like cool people don't look at explosions
3:13 Ive swapped mine, it feels a lot better using my virus as E which matches other projectiles like nades and such, and translocator being Shift which matched other heros mobility abilities, it just feels better
2:50 legit, you don't NEED to hack before Virus. Against 200 HP heroes with no strong self-sustain, you can just throw Virus then go straight to shooting. Fitzy have tested it and it's way more optimal that way.
I have about 100 hours on Sombra and even I adjusted quickly to the invis/translocator swap quickly. Only had to do it wrong 3 times and die once and that fixed my issue with it lmao!
The prophet himself flats says the hottest take of all time: Sombra is worse now actually. this might be one of the coldest takes he has ever had but go on.
I think this is the classic case of a cod gamer who is trying to use shift to sprint because virus is on shift by default... I do that after playing apex for a few days
I just rebound the virus specifically. Translocator still felt natural to me, but virus being what I usually use as a movement ability felt weird and let to me not using it correctly.
Coming forward here, Truthfully Im assuming at a lotta things in games and dueling/1v1s are one of them Ive always had more of an opportunist playstyle stacking odds in my favor before engaging so I can say that sombra’s rework doesn’t change much for me since Im already used to other characters with stealthy entry tools but dont have a great escape tool(not saying the new tp is bad, its pretty good but still my ass will always accidentally hit a wall and tp 2 inches)
As a past Sombra main (not anymore cuz of this awful rework), I actually feel this guys struggle so much with virus, it's just muscle memory atp that we try to go invisible or throwing the translocator in the enemy team as an accident too, this is how my first game on her went too after the rework, i hate everything about it and I need old Sombra back already. Glad to see this atleast made his job with cheats harder. They ruined the fun in her gameplay and it's all sweaty now, just sad.
3:21 Okay about swapping the translocator and virus, I actually have my virus and hack swapped, having my hack on lshift and virus on right click. feels much more natural
You actually almost never go for hack and then virus. The DPS from your gun is actually more than the faster tick on the dot. Plus you're not throwing away your element of surprise by starting with hack.
That extra damage mean you can kill the enemy faster by combining both the dps of your gun and the cube while knowing that supports with abilities like sleep dart can't use those abilities. It is still beneficial to try to get a hack first, but some situations may call for starting without a hack
@@thecyanpanda241 Yeah, it's def situational. It jus got on my nerves hearing ":omg he must be an idiot who bought this account an is hacking, he didn't hack before virus". Like, yeah the dude was an idiot hacker. Just not for that.
Not gonna lie, I stopped playing OW for a year or two, picked it up again a week ago, and the entire time have not noticed that Sombra had another rework. I'm in the same boat as this hacker saying "wait, Sombra has a virus now?"
Swapping virus and translocator is better. I have a lot of hours on sombra, the time it takes to hit e is slower than shift. I should also change recall to shift as well since i always blink with right click
I've been running into so many botters and/or wall hackers in quickplay lately. It's annoying and sad Blizzard does nothing about it. Also whats even more sad? The people who don't believe that person is botting. SMDH. @Flats I'd love to see you do a video - explaining to the majority of Overwatch players - what you can spot with aimbotters in the game. And that not ALL of them are good or amazing players - and they can still play like shit and still be botting... :)
I think the auto Invis is a stupid change, especially when it bugs out and gets stuck in perpetual ‘2 second’ cooldown until you throw Locator. It literally forces you to rely on your foes missing you for 3 seconds straight in a firefight before you can retreat if Locator’s on cooldown, plus it completely kills the mind game factor around Sombra that was wholly unique to her. You could unnerve an entire team just by ‘pretending’ to hack tanks and BOOM! Instant distraction for your team to capitalize on as you retreat to leave them firing at empty space while your Nano’d Zarya comes tromping through the frontline in the confusion. Now, the moment a hacking line touches an opponent.... “BEEEEP! BEEEEP! BEEEEEP! SOMBRA DETECTED!!! SOMBRA DETECTED!!! Sombra with a teleport that triggers a quarter of a second after tossed and has barely any horizontal movement detected!!!” I can hardly wait for them to replace Hog’s gun with twin Deagles and to change his hook to a deployable/throwable of some kind in the rework. Whole Hog now has him pulling squealing pigs out of a sack and chucking them at opponents FFS, but it’s cool. Change everything, fix nothing, that’s the Blizzard motto I guess... 🙄
@@azeplayt4546 No, I’m annoyed by the lack of control Sombra has now. She no longer has the option of really choosing where she wants to go with her Teleport as, like I said, you’re forced to locate after a .25 second window that’s incredibly easy to predict. Hell, you can’t even fake people out with it anymore. I used to love lobbing it in like I have EMP and have them just waiting for the teleport so they can kill me in that small window.... But then I cancel it, go for the actual EMP, and then the team goes in. You can’t do that anymore. I’m not talking about the detection radius, Sherlock. I’m talking about Stealth instantly cancelling the moment the hacking animation starts now. If the person you’re trying to hack just happens to get cleansed/bubbled at that moment, or a perfectly timed shield pops up, you’re now just forced to commit to a probably unwinnable situation, seeing as Sombra’s whole schtick is surprise attacks. Her main weakness (enemy team grouped up) is only made worse when she now immediately breaks Stealth in order to Hack. She’s now gone from an occasionally indecisive hero to almost ‘YOLO or Bust’ territories. It’s just another unnecessary rework.
@@azeplayt4546 1st edition Sombra was weird as hell to play back then. The ult charge off hacked health, 15 second Stealth before auto break, limited window to teleport before Translocator vanished. Still was a fun time, but the reworks she got then just felt more necessary to actually help guide players towards her preferred playstyle. These changes however just seem... forced. I’m aware of the vertical height on her Teleport, but it doesn’r really carry the momentum and she more or less drops straight down. I’ve already figured out the approximate height to shoot with Junkrat that has her landing ass-first on a grenade when she goes up and I barely play the game anymore. The virus is a cool addition to her kit, but the amount of control you lose in every other aspect isn’t. I think even just doing Version 1 TP just on a shorter timer (2 seconds) might just work better at this point than the current one. I’m not saying I never used Sombra’s TP to just hop back and forth to piss off my foes, everyone’s done that. I’m just saying that still having a reliable way to get out without turning your back to attacking enemies and tossing a locator midfight wasn’t the worst thing. A timer on the teleporter would be better than auto .25 second teleport, but that’s just my opinion.
I’ve watched numerous videos of yours something I’m gonna have to disagree with is opening with hack before virus. The difference between hack and non hack is super negligible. We’re talk 10hp and 2 seconds vs. 4 seconds. Opening with hack just gives the enemy a chance to react and maybe even make the virus harder to hit. As longs as you’re hitting your shots, you’re going to burn a squishy quickly anyway. If they have a healer nearby, it might be advantageous to get the quicker burst, but even then, you shouldn’t be trying to 2v1 anyway.
After just reinstalling OW after 3 years of not playing i absolutely hate the new Sombra rework. The teleporter is like 5 feet and doesnt really do much
I swapped the buttons to feel better because I was pressing them wrong already, as soon as I switched it, I started pressing them how I should’ve before I changed then
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i would like to try it out, but i feel like im not good enough
I'm not a hardcore gamer sorry
I'm still confused on what this service entirely is and who it is for?
The ana missing 4 shots at the 1hp sombra is the funniest thing ever. 13:55
flats i got gold here. a group of 3 cheaters. played against them twice. they almost lost. they turned their cheats up to 11. i have the entire game share link saved. please give this a watch someone.
I’ll be honest, I still have moments where I accidentally virus a wall because I forget Sombra has a rework. This guy though was on a whole other level
I kept doing that in the Halloween event and my friend just turned to me as zarya and we were in voice chat but he didn't say anything I could just see the disappointment
i started playing again recently (stopped due to disappointement with blizzard regarding the PVE) and having played sombra quite a lot, i have this muscle memory that trigger when i respawn to press Lshift to go invisible. it only happen sometimes on respawn but i can understand people still doing it since it happen to me too but damn that's another level of muscle memory for this cheater
LOL FR
I’m one of those people who swap the buttons on sombra I think it feels more natural because most escape abilities are Lshift
man i am not alone.......i also did the same😂cheers man
Translocator has always been e so putting it on shift feels wrong.
I also felt weird at the begining so i swapped it, but then i realised its felt even more weird cause the old tp button was on E .So i swapped them back and just get used to the new controls
oh, thats right, like moira shift... i think it is just.. that sombra had E for ages
Same. Took me a week to retrain my old Sombra brain, but it makes more sense
I will say as a Sombra player and someone who watches all the Sombra streamers. Hack + Virus isn't always the best since it will give the enemy more warning and can have you miss out of some extra damage in exchange for less burst. She isn't just harder in the lack of a free escape but the complex interactions with each situation.
Plus hack just makes virus faster and not deal more damage.
@@Dr.Slaughter Well technically it is 10 more impact damage but that rarely makes up for the damage done by just shooting.
@@Ontarianmm True, it basically makes no difference. Like you said, its more worth it to just shoot. Honestly its more advantages to just melee the target to finish them off in some cases
to be fair this was right after the rwork released before people had time to feel it out. And it can stop people avoiding some of the damage using a cleanse.
true!! its best to hack + virus only when the enemy is not looking at you, is squishy, or doesn't do much damage and cant rlly kill you quickly.
To be fair on the cheater (reluctantly), I tried Sombra for the first time in ages today and the first thing I did after walking forward was shoot virus out of spawn on muscle memory. I think most people used to her go invisible instantly with Lshift for the movement speed. It took me a while to not use Lshit to go invisible.
I did that too for a while lol
Ii have over 200 hours on sombra. And I do this still some times
i swapped trans and virus. worse case i teleport forward and go invis faster too
@@PhantomEnderium yea having virus as the Lshift ability was a weird decision by the devs considering most people use Lshift for escape abilities. I swapped those too ASAP.
First few times on Sombra I threw the translocator straight into the enemy team cause I was so used to tp away from the fights. XD
I think that even the people that argue “well maybe they are a good player from another game so just their aim is good” can’t on this one. Any competent player from any game would have realized that throwing the virus out of spawn doesn’t do anything after doing it two times max. This guy did it like 100 times.
I wonder if the enemy lw/moira are duoed because everytime the hacker goes for lw that moira comes for blood so quick
Nah that’s just the DPS Moira instincts kicking in
Lol fair enough
That- theyre both in comms, or she has good team awareness. Im a Moria who will go for blood as well if my supports are getting targeted by flankers. Not to mention- the Sombra is SUPER PREDICTABLE on who she’s targeting. Chances are they were banking on the Sombra continually coming back to get more support beatings. Lmaooo
well moiras never minds their business…and supports are amazing at having each other’s backs when they’re competent
As a Moira main, I can tell you that I do in fact take it personally when anybody attacks my fellow support. We gotta stick together out there.
every time i see hackers like this i always just imagine them looking down at their keyboard every 24 seconds to see if they're pressing the right key
The sombra isn’t cheating they obviously just having the homing upgrade from devil’s sanctuary Diablo event DUH
Because of how strong heals are its actually better to 1v1 dps who cant self heal. Any healing neuters virus's damage, but an out of position solo dps who isnt like 76 mei or reaper cant really deal well with the combo.
On the topic of swapping buttons, I put Virus to right click since that feels more like an alternate fire ability to me, i put translocator on shift since thats where most of my other movement abilities are bound, and hack is E. I do use my mouse thumb buttons for these inputs, with the forward thumb button being shift, and the back thumb button being E :)
While intuitive, this would completely fuck up my muscle memory with old sombra, so I’ve left mine default and just been trying to get used to them. If it works for you though, than great!
I have Translocator on one of the side buttons on my mouse. Abilities that I have to aim feel better if they're on the mouse. Virus is on right button though.
idk if sombra is as good, but she's definitely more fun and that's all that matters
She is also more fun to play against. EMP isn't a free win and if she screws up Ball/Doom can chase her down.
I can't believe you finally found a sombra thats worse than me
Them not realizing stealth wasn't an ability anymore hurts
The reason why he kept throwing random virus's is because he was trying to go invis i figured it out immediately and damn was it funny watching it
8:56 This part has me dying when Flats goes on a small rant 😭😭😭
To be fair I still struggle with adapting when abilities change too. I do this too sometimes when I walk out of spawn and try to go invis but throw virus instead
New characters are prevented from playing comp for two weeks after launch. Why are reworked characters getting the same treatment. A rework is fundamentally changing some key core function(s) to make how the character(s) preform, essentially making them a different, or new threat. Why was sombra not given the same adjustment time.
While yes, thats understandable, the sombra rework wasnt as big of a gamechanger as, for example, orisa and doom. She kept her core game design, just shifted around a few things.
I disagree, as a former sombra main, her kit's fundemental design and rhythms are totally borked. You went from freedom of control to "whelp, this is you now!" and it's been really frustrating. Forced invis is absolutely atrocious, and the auto teleport is useless. Her gun is the only unchanged thing.
@@aeches That's only true for some Sombra mains. People more like Questron already were playing her this way (more or less). It wasn't too big a change, other than virus being on the key most people think of as an escape key.
@@aeches rythmm is changed but her role and playstyle really arent any different, just the route to getting actual value with her is more straightforward for the average player.
just because YOU don't know how to use Translocator effectively doesn't make it useless. "freedom of control" before was basically 95% of Sombras wasting time getting failed attempts to assassinate support, trans back to healthpack, spending ages to get back into the team fight, and rinse and repeat while basically being a wasted member slot for their team. At least now with virus she is a more consistent threat and "frontline sombra" isn't actually completely useless anymore
I think the problem with Sombra is if you go on point and forget to not shoot or hit something or emote you go invis and sometimes that may cost you a point if you don’t touch.
Why Moira’s right hand is assigned to the left trigger is beyond me.
I’m honestly surprised of the amount of people I’ve had in voice chat that didn’t know sombra got reworked.
The hard part is the support mains that don't know they actually need to heal their Sombra now. Health pack translocators are dead and gone
This is still an an issue in plat and low diamond. I'd have expected more people above Gold would read up patch notes, because, you know, you're in the ranks where that matters...
@@TikkaQrow yeah don’t focus on bad supports most good supports will heal you
I heal everyone 🥲 when I see the alert on screen that someone is at low health, I just go to them automatically. Doesn't matter who they are. Last time I played comp (which was in ow1), I only made plat.
Yes, it is so much better with it swapped. My reasoning being escape/movement abilities on practically almost every hero are on Lshift and not E, while damage abilities are on E for those heroes. Makes it so much more streamlined and easier.
Yea the drums, like the coconut drop on Samoa as well 11:39
Also it's hilarious flats gets confused when he sees them walk into walls or bot walks like they have a brain in the first place lmao
Shift used to be turning on the cloak, which is hard muscle memory. Took me like 20 games to get out of throwing virus at walls and out of spawn
I still sometimes do it...
Hack + Virus gives the enemy time to react. If you just Virus + Shoot out of stealth you end up with a better chance of killing most targets. The only time I open with hack is vs something like a Moira who I can kill before their fade comes back up and has no chance of 1v1ing me if I hit my shots. Hack + Virus + a few shots just deletes them before their cooldowns can save them. Most other characters have a good chance of 1v1ing you if you tip them off too early. The ttk doesn't go down enough to warrant hacking most targets before trying to0 1v1 them. I typically just save hack to either help my team shred a tank and cancel their defensive cooldowns for a sec, or to cancel important abilities.
As a sombra main this saddens me, people already hate us enough as it is.
Dude I spent so long accidentally throwing virus when trying to go invis, forgetting she doesn't need to do that anymore 😭
I’ve played Sombra a lot (both versions), and honestly, this new version is much more fun to play, and picked right up her kit. All those times they threw Virus they were trying to stealth cause LShift was stealth, and Translocator has always been E. Ppl that switch Translocator and Virus either didn’t play lots of Sombra 1.0 or are just weird, or maybe both 🤭
Are we talking sombra 1.0 as in release kit, or 2.0 as in her first rework?
@@aeches you’re right, I forgot she had a rework before. It’s just that her previous kit was “there” for so long I called it 1.0. For clarification, when I said “1.0” I meant the previous kit, and “2.0” is the current kit, even tho it’s not 2.0 xD
first thing i did when sombra rework hit was swap buttons XD pretty much every movement character has their movement ability on shift it feels more natural
My favorite thing to do as new Sombra is to pull a Fitzyhere and hunt down the enemy supports.
Zens fall over like a sack of potatoes
Please don’t. I just wanna play the game ;-;
Killing people returning from spawn is the most evil and most fun part of sombra gameplay
@@sergiohenrique3551I do this with dps. Sometimes supports but not to the point of bullying them.
14:28 I’d bet money this guy was looking at that Ana and SPAMMING shift trying to throw the cube
The beginning of this video made me think I was watching one of the old spectating videos from OW1 😂. I’ve already binged all those, so I was ready to just hit next video in the queue.
Had no idea there were drum beats on that map! The details man, the details.
I muscle memory’d virus out of spawn a bunch of times too but when I did I’d always remember to throw translocator after, they just completely gave up 😭
I was looking to see if you posted anything new lol and within a few minutes this pops up in my notifs
Always satisfying when I want some flats content and get on TH-cam to see new flat content
The amount of últs at 13:30 is amazing 😂
Weeks later and I'm still throwing virus out of spawn trying to go invisible lol
Perfect Post-Work Flats Video
Mauga needs a drum emote for a dance
as a sombra main this hurts to watch
Somra is pretty ok now, but they need to adjust her cooldowns just a smidgen. I personally think she gets her translocator a bit too fast. Instead of beat back the sombra until she tps out, she'll tp behind you and reingage combat from a different angle 5 seconds later.
its always a good video when flats says, I've got a goodie for you today.
TBH it took me a few games to stop throwing virus instead of tele..lol
Oh the gamer chairs taking the aim to the next level of not knowing reworks happen
when sombra got reworked as a ow1 sombra main it's hurt a lot and sombra become actually really hard to play after i need spend time on her for learn her more
This guy either has his ui turned off or he has a SEVERE case of ‘lack of awareness. Because even though I don’t do overwatch, I would have seen that the target was not dying or getting hurt and adjusted my play. And EVEN WITH CHEATS THIS GUY DOES NOT REALIZE HIS TARGET ISNT GETTING HURT
Bro is trying to knock down the enemies with his translocator lol
omg this poor bastard of a soldier, i played against him day 5 of the sombra rework and bullied the living hell out of him
Honestly, I'm guilty of this too. Just by pure muscle memory, I press Shift every time I walk out of spawn and facepalm myself afterwards 😂
13:06 I don't think he was trying to kill through the wall, I think he just is incapable of learning that shift doesn't make you go invis anymore. Seems like they wanted the speed boost with invis there. I am guessing this person thinks that the cheats are messing with his keybinds in some way and is just that dumb.
2:15 YES, she is lowkey slightly worse.
Yeah, they dropped the skill FLOOR, but the skill CEILING was also dropped quite a bit.
She's been 'kinda' shoehorned into the Sombra 76 sub-role
Pre-rework Sombra kinda had multiple playstyles, tho most people only ever used healthpack/translocator flanking styles, and badly at that. (honestly that style was only good against hard dive, denying Ball the Megas)
Sombra 76 is playing with the tank and focusing on chip damage from frontline with flanking translocator plays as needed for pushing. It's a lot harder to use her as an assassin/dive dps than it used to be. Especially a good Ana that lands a sleep and you have no 'mash' trans escape available.
My opinions are from a plat perspective tho, so higher ranks might be worse/better depending.
Flats with the f take on sombra, she is essentially tracer now but invisible, you pick a target, throw virus, if it connects burn your target then tp out, if it doesn't connect up to you but usually tp out, by the time you turn around virus is off of cd and rinse and repeat. Hack is now your big cd like res almost, it is your interrupt, don't worry about using it for the extra DMG with virus too much because once you use it you have nothing to stop several ults and big abilities (res), it isn't the hack everyone remembers that had hacked on your screen half the game and perma locked out of your abilities, it's now a scalpel that you have to time to save your team or keep a fight in your favour. Emp is just an AOE hack (great for some ult combos, terrible for others) , pick target, emp, virus and burn with shooting, again, if you miss the virus usually get out but you can now burn more easily after emp, YMMV
Edit: virus does the same DMG if you hack or don't hack, the difference is that virus ticks faster, it is like Moira orb with a DMG fast button, hacking your target first gives away your location, like tapping them on the shoulder first, if you don't hack them the dps you do is enough to kill a squishy and walk away like cool people don't look at explosions
cheaters that are this bad are like a confidence booster, no matter how bad you think you are you will never be THIS shit
Flats you did not just give a shout-out to a sponsor just to immediately give me 2 unskippable ads. I’ll remember this
I just learn you can EMP Orisa ult, that's good to know
3:13 Ive swapped mine, it feels a lot better using my virus as E which matches other projectiles like nades and such, and translocator being Shift which matched other heros mobility abilities, it just feels better
2:50 legit, you don't NEED to hack before Virus. Against 200 HP heroes with no strong self-sustain, you can just throw Virus then go straight to shooting. Fitzy have tested it and it's way more optimal that way.
I so thought about changing sombras buttons, but my muacle memory with her translocator is too strong after all these years 😅
As someone who's only experience in OW2 was against bots, I'd probably do some training before/while waiting for a match.
I have about 100 hours on Sombra and even I adjusted quickly to the invis/translocator swap quickly. Only had to do it wrong 3 times and die once and that fixed my issue with it lmao!
The prophet himself flats says the hottest take of all time: Sombra is worse now actually.
this might be one of the coldest takes he has ever had but go on.
I think this is the classic case of a cod gamer who is trying to use shift to sprint because virus is on shift by default... I do that after playing apex for a few days
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This is what canon sombra looks loke
Lore accurate Sombra
“WHAT IS THAT ABILITY?!”
as a Sombra main, this hurts my soul
I just rebound the virus specifically. Translocator still felt natural to me, but virus being what I usually use as a movement ability felt weird and let to me not using it correctly.
Coming forward here, Truthfully Im assuming at a lotta things in games and dueling/1v1s are one of them Ive always had more of an opportunist playstyle stacking odds in my favor before engaging so I can say that sombra’s rework doesn’t change much for me since Im already used to other characters with stealthy entry tools but dont have a great escape tool(not saying the new tp is bad, its pretty good but still my ass will always accidentally hit a wall and tp 2 inches)
"There's something so ironic about a hacker hacking"
"Honestly, true."
Neither of you know what ironic means
The words irony and ironic are quite ironic themselves, don't you think? They're taught to everyone, but nobody knows how to use them.
They ment that it was ironic they were cheating with Sombra a in world hacker it's funny because the hacker was using a in world hacker to cheat
@@bluevines1303 that's not ironic it's coincidental. Irony specifically refers to when the opposite of what you expect is true.
@@thebowedacious oh ye I remember now I'm Stoopid sorry bout that
As a past Sombra main (not anymore cuz of this awful rework), I actually feel this guys struggle so much with virus, it's just muscle memory atp that we try to go invisible or throwing the translocator in the enemy team as an accident too, this is how my first game on her went too after the rework, i hate everything about it and I need old Sombra back already. Glad to see this atleast made his job with cheats harder. They ruined the fun in her gameplay and it's all sweaty now, just sad.
3:21
Okay about swapping the translocator and virus, I actually have my virus and hack swapped, having my hack on lshift and virus on right click. feels much more natural
You actually almost never go for hack and then virus. The DPS from your gun is actually more than the faster tick on the dot. Plus you're not throwing away your element of surprise by starting with hack.
That extra damage mean you can kill the enemy faster by combining both the dps of your gun and the cube while knowing that supports with abilities like sleep dart can't use those abilities. It is still beneficial to try to get a hack first, but some situations may call for starting without a hack
@@thecyanpanda241 Yeah, it's def situational. It jus got on my nerves hearing ":omg he must be an idiot who bought this account an is hacking, he didn't hack before virus". Like, yeah the dude was an idiot hacker. Just not for that.
I can’t be the only one accidentally throwing virus when I’m trying to go into stealth >_
every time i leave spawn lmao
i don’t think i’ve ever watched someone legitimately hacking and been so confident that i could do 100 times better if i was in that game
Not gonna lie, I stopped playing OW for a year or two, picked it up again a week ago, and the entire time have not noticed that Sombra had another rework. I'm in the same boat as this hacker saying "wait, Sombra has a virus now?"
Swapping virus and translocator is better. I have a lot of hours on sombra, the time it takes to hit e is slower than shift.
I should also change recall to shift as well since i always blink with right click
I've been running into so many botters and/or wall hackers in quickplay lately. It's annoying and sad Blizzard does nothing about it. Also whats even more sad? The people who don't believe that person is botting. SMDH.
@Flats I'd love to see you do a video - explaining to the majority of Overwatch players - what you can spot with aimbotters in the game. And that not ALL of them are good or amazing players - and they can still play like shit and still be botting... :)
At the begining I was like "ok, don't see like cheating, I played this bad after the rework" but they really never learn xD
To be fair if I didn’t know about the new Sombra I’d probably throw virus trying to go invisible, I always went invis going out of spawn
It took a while but I honestly like her better now! She’s more fun to play for me and I do better with how she works now :)
What if all these hackers are really Flats?
I think the auto Invis is a stupid change, especially when it bugs out and gets stuck in perpetual ‘2 second’ cooldown until you throw Locator.
It literally forces you to rely on your foes missing you for 3 seconds straight in a firefight before you can retreat if Locator’s on cooldown, plus it completely kills the mind game factor around Sombra that was wholly unique to her. You could unnerve an entire team just by ‘pretending’ to hack tanks and BOOM! Instant distraction for your team to capitalize on as you retreat to leave them firing at empty space while your Nano’d Zarya comes tromping through the frontline in the confusion.
Now, the moment a hacking line touches an opponent.... “BEEEEP! BEEEEP! BEEEEEP! SOMBRA DETECTED!!! SOMBRA DETECTED!!! Sombra with a teleport that triggers a quarter of a second after tossed and has barely any horizontal movement detected!!!”
I can hardly wait for them to replace Hog’s gun with twin Deagles and to change his hook to a deployable/throwable of some kind in the rework. Whole Hog now has him pulling squealing pigs out of a sack and chucking them at opponents FFS, but it’s cool. Change everything, fix nothing, that’s the Blizzard motto I guess... 🙄
@@azeplayt4546 No, I’m annoyed by the lack of control Sombra has now. She no longer has the option of really choosing where she wants to go with her Teleport as, like I said, you’re forced to locate after a .25 second window that’s incredibly easy to predict. Hell, you can’t even fake people out with it anymore. I used to love lobbing it in like I have EMP and have them just waiting for the teleport so they can kill me in that small window.... But then I cancel it, go for the actual EMP, and then the team goes in. You can’t do that anymore.
I’m not talking about the detection radius, Sherlock. I’m talking about Stealth instantly cancelling the moment the hacking animation starts now. If the person you’re trying to hack just happens to get cleansed/bubbled at that moment, or a perfectly timed shield pops up, you’re now just forced to commit to a probably unwinnable situation, seeing as Sombra’s whole schtick is surprise attacks. Her main weakness (enemy team grouped up) is only made worse when she now immediately breaks Stealth in order to Hack. She’s now gone from an occasionally indecisive hero to almost ‘YOLO or Bust’ territories. It’s just another unnecessary rework.
@@azeplayt4546 1st edition Sombra was weird as hell to play back then. The ult charge off hacked health, 15 second Stealth before auto break, limited window to teleport before Translocator vanished. Still was a fun time, but the reworks she got then just felt more necessary to actually help guide players towards her preferred playstyle.
These changes however just seem... forced. I’m aware of the vertical height on her Teleport, but it doesn’r really carry the momentum and she more or less drops straight down. I’ve already figured out the approximate height to shoot with Junkrat that has her landing ass-first on a grenade when she goes up and I barely play the game anymore. The virus is a cool addition to her kit, but the amount of control you lose in every other aspect isn’t. I think even just doing Version 1 TP just on a shorter timer (2 seconds) might just work better at this point than the current one.
I’m not saying I never used Sombra’s TP to just hop back and forth to piss off my foes, everyone’s done that. I’m just saying that still having a reliable way to get out without turning your back to attacking enemies and tossing a locator midfight wasn’t the worst thing. A timer on the teleporter would be better than auto .25 second teleport, but that’s just my opinion.
I’ve watched numerous videos of yours something I’m gonna have to disagree with is opening with hack before virus. The difference between hack and non hack is super negligible. We’re talk 10hp and 2 seconds vs. 4 seconds. Opening with hack just gives the enemy a chance to react and maybe even make the virus harder to hit. As longs as you’re hitting your shots, you’re going to burn a squishy quickly anyway. If they have a healer nearby, it might be advantageous to get the quicker burst, but even then, you shouldn’t be trying to 2v1 anyway.
After just reinstalling OW after 3 years of not playing i absolutely hate the new Sombra rework. The teleporter is like 5 feet and doesnt really do much
Love that opener lol always means some good shit on the way
As a sym main sombra layout seems fine XD
He 1000% is trying to invis when he randomly uses virus
I said on your other Sombra videos that she was secretly nerfed....she's just more fun to play IMO.
I think sombra is going to be absolutely busted next season depending on how strong the nerf are to supports
Everybody talking about keybindings but I play console and didn’t notice a change when I played her-
I'm pretty sure a 3K 1A EMP is POTG anyway, so idk what he thought he was accomplishing by choosing to let his Genji kill the Ana instead.
I feel like Sombra's damage is gonna get nerfed, shes easy to kill but if you happen to notice just a second too late youre dead
"ITS THE OTHER BUTTON" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I swapped the buttons to feel better because I was pressing them wrong already, as soon as I switched it, I started pressing them how I should’ve before I changed then
I also didn't realize there was a rework and I was playing like this lol. Minus the kills. I can't aim for shit. But at least I used my translocator
i guarantee he is peaking on shrooms and just using muscle memory. like this guy is so unaware i can practically see him slumped in his chair
Lore accurate sombra player
I'm pretty sure he kept throwing the virus out of spawn because he was so used to hitting invis right out of spawn
lol, glad I'm not the only one who swapped them :D