The Lockheed F-104 Starfighter
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- An over of the Lockheed F-104 Starfighter including a few places you can find it in the movies.
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Movies/Games featured:
Starfighter - Sie wollten den Himmel erobern 2015
Mystery Science Theater 3000 (1988)
The Right Stuff 1983
Fritz the Cat 1972
Gamera vs Zigra 1971
The Bamboo Saucer 1968
The X from Outer Space 1967
Star Trek: The Original Series 1966
The Starfighters 1964
Aces Combat 7: Skies Unknown (Video Game)
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Fun fact, the Italian Air Force was the last military to operate the F-104 on October 31st 2004, and one of the few ones where the aircraft had no bad "aura" around it. Italian pilots to this day remember fondly the aircraft with the affectionate nickname of "spillone" (hatpin) due to it's design.
The ItAF further upgraded its G and S variants to the ASA (1986) and ASA-M (1997) modifications which allowed the Starfighter to mount more capable air-to-air missiles (Aspide Mk1 and AIM9L) in addition to various improvements to the original aircraft.
The reason why I got interested in the F104 is because Italy has a bunch of them in War Thunder
It also had a good repute in Pakistan Airforce, the Luftwaffe just didn't use this lovely aircraft for it's actual purpose.
@@thespatulaa Not necessarily the Luftwaffe's fault as they had the Starfighter forced upon them despite their clear different requirements and thus had no choice but to make do and attempt to improvise the Starfighter. The fault lies with Lockheed and politics.
@@swoo6979 well to be quite fair they quite literally over burdened their aircraft, used it for multiple roles other than its primal nature -- being an interceptor. But it also may be due to politics we never know 🤷🏻
@@thespatulaa
We do know.
Lockheed went to great lengths to pretend the F-104 could do whatever mission was put infront of it, no matter how fundamentally unsuited the air frame was...
They also threw stacks of cash at various politicians around the world to convince them to order it...
The sexiest most beautiful fighter - interceptor ever created. I Loved the F-104 since I saw it as a kid while attending Abbotsford international airshows back in the 70's. They were Canadian CF-104's and I loved everything about the jet.🥰
Well done. I am a starfighter phreak. My dad used to take me up to CartierVille near Montreal and the Canadair plant to watch them take of on test flights.
I still think it’s funny that the starfighter had to have a special variant to train astronauts!
Says something that they were occasionally seen as hounded by MiG-17s, -19s, and -21s in the Vietnam War episodes of History Channel's Dogfights, and also being the first craft destroyed in Ace Combat 7 because of its junkyard fragility (despite it being playable).
7:41: That's a MiG-21. A MiG-19 would basically be a -21 without the triangle nosecone in my eyes.
Well, can't wait for tranquilizers and F-86 Sabres (which also appear in old kaiju films like the original Godzilla) next.
I made the correction and thank you for it again 🥸👍
I lived in Bad Vilbel 1970 to 75. These broke our windows regularly.
The name which most people remember this plane by is the WIdowmaker. I spent many hours doing guard duty on the pans in Malta and seeing the German version of this plane.
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Eric 'Einkke' Brown, who was working to rebuild the German Air Force recommended against the Starfighter with good reason. I believe he favoured the Phantom which was in his opinion an excellent choice.
He didn't work with the Luftwaffe, he worked with the German Navy's Air Arm, the Marineflieger. They wanted Buccaneers.
Excellent F-104 video.....Thanks Johnny and i just Sub'ed to your channel.....
Old F-4 2 Shoe 🇺🇸
Love having veterans appreciate my video. Thank you for the support. 🙏
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Thanks i am in 80's now but i remember the F-104 VERY WELL and it's spurs...Shoe🇺🇸
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq.Das war meine Zeit mit der 104 als Zeitsoldat 1965 schöne Erinnerungen und viel
Wehmut der Zeitgeschichte beim MFG2.🇩🇪✈️🛩⚓️🚢🇩🇪
Good video here may look into that and who knows may want to look into other topics I mentioned earlier as well as look into videos about other things that can turn into guns like cigarette and Cigar guns as seen in special operations of WWII or this one of a special gun belt of WWII with a switch on cable along with others like it like in that film From Dusk Till Dawn where I saw a belt firing when it opened and those are just some of the ideas you can use maybe look into parts like a Ballistic Knife the ones Russia is rumored to use or other parts can be either MI-24 Hind, Apache, Cold War Tanks are a good candidate and who knows what others including some I previously mentioned or you may want to look up.
Thanks JJ and also there are other things that can fire that look like something else like a cane, Umbrella, cell phone or who knows what others spy agencies like the OSS, SOE and CIA had a whole lot of stuff that looked like things you hardly notice including weapons anyway may want to look, Google and TH-cam that up or look up in books about that subject if you still have it.
This was one of my first model kit assembly as a kid
My Dad flew the Revell kit plane with the Shooting Stars on the tail out of George AFB
The NF-104A was not a demilitarized version, instead, it was created to be a trainer for the USAF's Aerospace Test Pilot School, so test pilots could get experience in very high altitude flights.
The flying tentpin !
Twice as nice
I believe there is a short scene in Apollo 13 where on of the Astronauts fly a F104 for training.
The Lockheed F-104 was/is the best jet interceptor ever designed = a real man's aircraft ! 👍
WOW F104....^^
Let’s go
Chuck Yeager's special Starfighter was equipped with thrusters because there was not enough air at the high altitude for control surfaces to work. It's ironic that Yeager couldn't be an astronaut because he never went college, but ended up running the flight school for astronauts.
I suppose you could say it workout better for him in the end.
Chuck and other pilots took it to 102,000 ft. Then to 122,000 and possibly higher. Did not know about the added thrusters and I assumed it was a zoom climb in the 1950's. The mig 25 would also need thrusters to reach 123,000 ft. It's very suspicious the Soviets tried to beat the f 104, SR71, A12 record. The F15 beat all mig25 records in the end except for the minutes of 1960 mph achieved by the mig25.
Pilots need to be exceptional to fly the F 104 but it's an incredible plane.
@growalnuts9880
The Mig-25 still holds the absolute altitude record. The NF-104 didn’t come close and Chuck Yeager was the base loser because he refused to fly the proper profile. He lost one NF-104 and badly burned himself because he tried to force it higher rather than let it fall.. entering an unrecoverable spin.
@calvinnickel9995 Without rocket assistance and being bolted to a Bear, a mig 25 could not reach 123,000. It's simply a matter of pride for them. Chuck Yeager, king of speed and crashing. But can we do better than a Kelly Johnson design today? No and neither can Russia.
She had thrusters, and a rocket engine too. Very much like the X-15. The latter had a separate stick for the thrusters, something I don't think the Starfighter did.
Frankly, I think these people were all nuts and had a death wish...! 😰
Starfighter sounds so incredible when it is starting its engines.
Yeah, it's too bad that they don't have the "moose call" of the airplane winding up... once heard, never forgotten. There is a video of a Canadian CF-104 being brought back to flight status in Norway that shows it off to good effect. th-cam.com/users/shortsR1VJoj230Oo?feature=shared
Do MiG 29s!
The greatest TEST PILOT of all, Eric 'WINKLE' Brown described the F-104 as 'unforgiving'. but with performance unmatched in many respects today. Suited only to highly experienced pilots.
Overlooked here is the fact that the F-104 is the only jet fighter to have its own rock opera. In 1973, Robert Calvert of Hawkwind released "Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters," covering the bribery scandal, the Luftwaffe debacle, etc.
You can find the album here on TH-cam. It's a mix of Hawkwind style songs and comedy sketches.
catch a falling starfighter, Put it in the pocket of your jeans. You can use it as a cigarette lighter. Or as an opener for a can of beans
Bombers is another story. Love the B-52s
@@guaporeturns9472 named after the haircut, but the haircut was named after the bomber so all the same....it wasnt a rock...it was a rock lobster
@@jackbrown3689 Indeed it was.. and wasn’t, just like you said.😂
my grandfather was a mechanic for the Puerto Rico air national guard which was one of the last us squadrons to use the F-104. when I asked him about it, he described the plane as "absolutely beautiful" he also said it was able to cross the whole island in 10 minutes. So it's real cool to see how my favorite plane has a little bit of family history.
I was in PR 2019 helping with medical enhancement misson, MN Air National Guard. my large team got airlifted C-17 Minnesota to San Juan, then all tech and medical crews dispered all over the island for 6 days giving away free Med care - vaccines, dozens of medicines, CNC-machine carved eye-glasses lenses etc - total people helped around 1,600
Technically if the Starfighter was flying near top speed, it would have crossed the island in 4 minutes, FYI :D
My absolute favorite plane. Mach 2,6 in 1956 is incredible. "The Right Stuff" is in my movie collection. The Mk5 seat was i mile stone, a Bundeswehr friend of mine saw an ejection on landing near the ground with a 60° bank and the pilot survived.
first time being within the first 10 ppl to comment on vid
Well thank you! The comments help I'm told.
Funny thing is the public perception of the F-104 in Germany seems totally at odds with the reputation it had among its (surviving) pilots who loved the plane. One major issue was a personal feud between the editor of the Der Spiegel Magazine and then defense minister Strauss, one of the main recipients of Lockheed bribes which of course led to der Spiegel attacking the plane on every opportunity. Accident rate was appaling in the beginning but began to drop off in the late 60s thanks to a more stringent training and maintenance programme introduced by ex Luftwaffe ace Johannes Steinhoff. Also replacing the US made ejection seats with Martin-Baker ones saved many lives later
Funnily enough the F-104 had less loss rates in Luftwaffe service than the F84F
Two other factors that added to the high accident rate were the miserable weather that Central Europe is known for, and the Luftwaffe not having flown Mach-1 capable fighters before acquiring the Starfighter. The fighter that preceded the Starfighter in Luftwaffe service, was the transonic F-84F Thunderstreak.
@@johnosbourn4312да ваш старфайтер это вдоводел и редкостное дерьмо, наверное как и тяжёлый советский миг 23 не знаю кто из них хуже, но кажется это старфайтер
@@Lewd-Tenant_IsanThe loss rates for almost all jets, including civilian airliners, show a marked drop-off since the mid 1960s once manufacturers and the end-users stopped chasing outright performance and “modern” attitudes to all-round practicality, safety and fuel economy started to become prevalent.
This has saved countless lives but resulted in a technological stagnation from a performance standpoint whereby most aircraft today (eg F35 and A320 airbus) are notably slower than their late 1950s equivalents.
@neilturner6749
The speed reduction was about cost, not safety. It’s costs a lot to go fast.
Safety came from better sensors like synthetic vision-which ironically the subsonic A-6 had in the 1960s-and terrain following radar…. as well as improved tactics with a switch to mid-level self escorted strikes. SEAD reduces or eliminates the SAM threat and no aircraft stands a chance against small arms fire, CIWS, MANPADS, or slamming into the ground.
Holy shit, I was just going down the star fighter rabbit hole. I've met and talked to Chuck Yeager, he's always been a personal hero of mine. So happy to see this video pop up on my notifications. Thanks Johnny.
Possibly only a Brit would know this but the F-104 even had it's own album composed about it and the bribery scandal, "Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters" by Robert Calvert, with the brilliant track "Ejection"
Based Hawkwind enjoyer.
There was a Single from the Album. Ejection was the B Side. A side was The Widowmaker!!! I first heard about it in 1987 while in the RAF. Bloke posted into my Squadron had come off Phantoms and his squadron had done an exchange with a Luftwaffe F-104 unit. They gave a copy of the Album to the Luftwaffe Groundcrew who thought it was Brilliant, the Pilots were less impressed!!! Some of the Sketches between the songs are fantastic, Lockheed Sales Man trying to sell it to the German Defence Minister, The Two Ground Crew trying to refit a wing, the Cockpit Take Off Checks and the Bloke doing an interview to become a Fighter Pilot. "So you want to be a Fighter Pilot??", "A Starfighter Pilot Sir!".
As a sci-fi fan, I remember feeling very mislead the first time I heard of this aircraft. Luckily my anger did not burn too long and I read quite a bit about this interesting AIR-fighter
Edit: Heh I hadnt realised it was the Starfighter in that TOS episode. I guess it works on a couple levels, including it performing well at "greater altitudes," lol. Still, that's pretty impressive keeping pace with the flagship of the UFP. Anyway, I gained a level of appreciation for this aircraft and respect for the people who operated it. Imagine being a W. German air crew having to work on this. Did they install the avionics upgrades themselves or did someone else do it and then send them?
To be fair the Connie wasn't exactly going at Full Impulse at that point and I didn't realize it was the Starfighter they had used for that episode.
@@SampoPaalanen
to be fair the speed scales in Star trek as a whole are inconsistent at best, so it's fair to say nobody knows exactly how fast it was going.
@@BeansAndWeens Yeah it's best assume those speeds are based on standards not known to the audience but are known to the in-universe crew that way they make sense (though The Connie can break orbit under its own power so it must be faster then the space shuttle as the shuttle cannot break orbit).
@@SampoPaalanen
even then it does sometimes get sketchy
@@BeansAndWeens That's the problem with long running shows always and it's not like Trek was that concerned about consistency to begin with (even TOS has it share of things that don't match within itself) but you make the option where things match the most and work with that.
The General Electric J79 engine when used in the F-104 had a distinctive sound unlike other aircraft that used it such as the F-4, B-58.
When I was a kid and youngster the F104 Starfighter was the greatest thing you could watch in the skies above Denmark :) Danish Air force (RDAF) received the F104 in 1964 and with the Germans experience in mind, the RDAF used it only as the interceptor it was designed to be. The F100 and later the Swedish Draken took the role as fighter bomber.
9:50 It was also nicknamed _"Erdnagel"_ or "earth nail" or "ground nail" in English, as well as _"fliegender Sarg"_ ("flying coffin") and _"Sargfighter"_ ("coffin fighter")...
lawn dart
It's ironic that the M61 Vulcan, one of the all time staples of close range air to air dogfight weapons, started out on an aircraft that could not possibly have been less suited to using it.
One F-104 shot itself down when it ran into its own bullets after firing them.
@soaringvulture That was the F11F Tiger, not the Starfighter.
Why? The F-105 which is built similarly (tiny wings, huge engine, high stall speed, slow turn rate, and enormous turn radius) shot down 24.5 North Vietnamese Migs with its M61.
The Starfighter would have been an awesome plane for a fighter sweep over North Vietnam. But instead it was used to escort EC-121s. The NVAF Migs gave it a wide berth.
I’m pretty sure that in Gran Tourismo 7 you get a F-104 flyover on some Italian racetracks. You also get a F/A-18 Super Hornet flyover on US racetracks.
Q: How do you get your very own Starfighter?
A: Buy a small piece of land and simply wait.
- Old West German joke
German humour is no laughing matter.
Always loved the Starfighter. My earliest memory of it was a tiny plastic model (like toy soldiers), it came in a package like candy with other fighters. My mom got it for me at Woolworths (most Millenials wont even what Woolworth is), when she dragged me to shop for clothes for the new school year (1973?). For years, I thought this ctaft was fictional, until i saw I saw a documentry on test pilots on PBS in '80--I think; then of course later in Phil Kaufman's great film The Right Stuff. Like the F-15 Eagle--the Starfighter looks like it belows in a Star Wars film, that's why I think its so cool. I got it in War Thunder but I rarely use it as a fighter--its too damn fast. Great vid, JJ. Happy New Years, bro,
An extremely informative and well put together video, no doubt the product of extensive research. I thought it very slick and one of the best yet in terms of production.
Thanks Rob! That sort of feedback is very encouraging 👍🙏
My favorite pejorative nickname for the F-104 is "Lawn-dart" :D Definitely one of the most beautiful interceptors ever built.
Another nickname was the flying coffin.
The Turks would occasionally fly F-104s into Incirlik when I was stationed there in1988-89. It always seemed to be just a few. On the other hand they had F-4s by the truck load, frequently operating 75 plus F-4s.
The Book "Great battles of Pakistan Air Force" by Air commodore M Kaisar Tufail explains the performance and interception missions performed by the PAFs Starfighters
Another amazing aeroplane from Kelly Johnson.
112 German pilots died flying these planes.
Excellent! I didn’t think about the starfighter’s contribution to deterrence in West Germany and Taiwan.
Hard to believe there are civil outfits still flying it 👍.
I really want a flight in one!
Gotta love the good old widow maker or the pencil.😂😂😂
I was an air traffic controller at Kadena from 79 to 81. The JASDF flew the F104J out of Naha at that time. We learned pretty quick that when they requested a visual straight in to Naha, it was time to break the airliners off final and let them go. They'd go anyway even without a clearance....
I was a civilian TWR Air Traffic Controller too and it’s very exciting to control fast combat jets; but they absolutely _can’t wait!_ you must have everything ready very much in advance. 😬
In the Frisian areas of the Netherlands the Starfighter had the following nickname, they called it the deldonder plane for the many accidents (in English the go down plane)
It also played a role in ending the train hostage adventure at De Punt in 1977.
1:47 Black Sabbath LP cover ??? I think so
Well since this is a reupload I can mention the characteristics of this plane reminds me of the English Electric Lightning fighter. Paper Skies did a brilliant video on this plane including the story of an accidental take-off by a maintenance engineer.
I would like to see you covering this plane.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
The only Plane with a song
Dos Gringos beg to differ...
Probably the sexiest jet fighter of all time.
and the English Electric Lightning, my favorite.
Another fun fact. There is a company out at nasa, that owns a 104, and gets contracts to do payload stress tests. They put the satellite in the plane, then the pilot goes as fast as he can as high as he can, to make sure the satellite will still function. The plane literally accelerates faster than a rocket!
Starfighters Inc. They also give rides in them🌞
At liftoff, rockets initially accelerate at about 0.3g which is really low, due to accelerating vertically and fighting gravity, jets can accelerate at about 1g on the runway. But after rockets use most of their fuel and get much lighter, just before statging they can accelerate at about 7g's.
Modern fighters can have about 9g's of upwards acceleration (or sideways acceleration by banking first to utilize the wing lift sideways) by using the lift from their wings, but only slightly more than 1g forward acceleration from the thrust of their engines.
@hkultala this is false information. Quick Google search shows in the falcon 9 manual max payload G is 6. And then the manned falcon 9 rocket does over 3g of accel.
@@jaxxmadine Totally depends on the rocket, and weight of the payload. Really stupid to accuse me of misinformation based on single rocket being slightly less.
@@jaxxmadine And manned rockets are typically designed to have smaller maximum g-forces than rockets designed to always fly unmanned.
Happy New Year Johnny. Thanks for all your efforts during 2023 and best wishes for 2024 👍
YES YEEEEEEEEESSSSSSS STARFIGHTER MY BELOVED!!!!!!!!!
Canadian CF-104's stationed in Europe flew from around 1961-1968 in a nuclear strike role. The USAF ground personnel would load nuclear free fall bombs on Canadian CF-104's then unload them after the sortie.
In 1969 Canadian European based CF-104's switched from a nuclear strike role to a low level conventional bombing role.
European based CF-104's also did tactical recon aswell using the Canadian Vintin photo recon pod.
I recall a Canadian CF-104 with this pod took detailed aerial pictures of Soviet aircraft on display he 1973? Paris air show.🤔
Wouldn’t it be easier to just buy a ticket to the air show and take a photo?
Or do what Flight International did… rent a Cessna and overfly Plant 42 in Palmdale to get unobstructed views of the super secret rear section of the B-2 which was heavily guarded during rollout.
I love the look of the F-104. It looks fast even when it’s sat stationary in the ground.
I remember seeing video footage of a F-104 (maybe Italian?) and to take off the pilot simply raised the undercarriage while he was halfway down the the runway without even climbing.
Germany using a high-altitude interceptor for ground attack with barely trained pilots: *"Yeah, it's big brain time."*
(Also, music title for 2:14 anyone?)
That's what happens when politicians make decisisons that require actual experts - sadly we hold on to the tradition of letting idiots running things here in Germany
@@TotallyNotAFoxthey werent idiots but bribed by Lockheed.
@@David-eh9le Ground Attack for NATO when this aircraft was bought was lob a tactical nuke at the Soviets!!! The Air Defence Mission of the Aircraft was a peacetime one (Air Policing). If WWIII kicked off The whole of the airspace above 10,000 feet in West Germany became Nike Hercules Missile Engagement Zone with a line of batteries running from Denmark to Switzerland in the middle of West Germany. A lot of the MIM-14 missiles had Nuke warheads. The Airspace for 50 odd miles along the iron curtain between 200 feet and the Nike Zone was a low level MEZ provided by a belt of MIM-23 HAWK batteries. It wasn't going to dogfight in a SAM zone or have to pick off individual Tanks. The Attack mission did change in 1968, ten years after the aircraft was ordered!! But West Germany was still a sea of SAM sites until the end of the Cold War!!! Goggle NATO Tripwire and Flexible Response war plans. One thing the Starfighter was good at was going very fast in a straight line at very low level. That is why it holds the official low level air speed record.
A small tidbit about the 104 that isn't widely known. When Lockheed (Kelly Johnson) was asked to design and build a high-altitude reconnaissance airplane (the U2)...the reason he was able to get it designed and manufactured so quickly is he basically took a 104, reengined it and slapped long wings on it and he had a U2 (a recently retired A.E. from a large American defense contractor's Aero company.
宇宙大怪獣ギララの映像まで使って頂き、日本人を代表してお礼します
F104は、かつて日本で最も人気のあった戦闘機です
マルヨンって「ギララ」にも出てたのか😳? DVD見直さなくちゃ😨 昭和版「ガメラ」ではお馴染みだったけど…😥
Johnny, you missed one! The I Dream of Jeannie episode where Major Tony Nelson is doing his post flight check of his Starfighter when Col. Chuck Yeager makes an appearance!
Można wiele złego powiedzieć o Starfighterze ale jednak to ten samolot przewoził z Niemiec Zachodnich do Włoch lekarstwo, które uratowało życie pewnej włoskiej dziewczynki. Totalnie szanuję. Pozdrowienia z Polski😊
If it Lockheed, you know it gonna be sleek high performance aerodynamic
Even if doesn't go into space, it can still go toe to toe with a TIE fighter
I had seen one Starfighter back in 2002 at a museum. It's a nice looking plane.
German pilots either loved the Starfighter's speed or hated its difficult handling.
The amount of vehicles from submarines to aircraft that have gotten the nickname "widowmaker" at this point makes me you can say that I have a widowmaker which I would use to take out 5 of your other widowmakers but another widowmaker just killed a bunch of its crew so now I need another widowmaker to cover that widowmaker and before long Widowmaker using a widowmaker came in via a widowmaker to destroy all of the widowmakers, thus this operation gained the nickname of the "widowmaker"
Этот самолёт был редкостным, отборным дерьмом😂😂😂😂😂 слава Богу что американцы его создали, следующим куском дерьма станет ф35😢😢😢😂😂😂
The plane flown by Avril Mead aka "The Scrap Queen" in Ace Combat 7 Skies Unknown
just an idea, i was very interested about the "panzerwurfmine" and was wondering if you could make a video about it
Good plane to see! But many fell from the sky in the 1970s...
This video is actually genuinely underated and damm
This one was a good one! Tons of history with this aircraft, always a good watch!
I like this longer format Johnny, a lot of info packed into 15 minutes.
Fun fact: Spain got 21 planes in 1965 and no one was lost upon their retirement in 1973. Most of them were transferred to Turkey and Greece.
There were many reasons for the zero accident rate: the pilots who flew it were the most expert, the mission profile was mainly interception, better weather than in Northern Europe...
@@dukeford the total flight hours are correct but the first flight hours are also the most prone to accidents and no fatal accident happened then while the Germans lost around two planes per month during their first years of service.
I cannot recall right now the specific German accident rate, but I compared once the 17,000 flight hours with other F-104 operators and if Spain had the same accident rate than the other operators, it should have lost between 3 and 6 aircraft and that didn't happen.
Of course, there were tricky situations like a close call when a Starfighter almost collided with a USAF VC-47 upon landing at Torrejón AB in poor visibility condition and at least one runway exit.
@@diegoferreiro9478 Actually, compared to other NATO users, the Spaniards should have lost maybe 2. Accident rates were between 1 and 1.5 losses per 10,000 flight hours.
@@dukeford8893 completely agree.
And despite having no losses there were close calls.The most serios happened when a F-104 almost crashed with a USAF VC-47 upon landing at Torrejón AB in low visibility conditions (most likely a ground control error), and some landings ended out of the strip.
I think johnny understands why i came here.
Film makers take note.
The Starfighter to me is the symbol of 50s retrofuturism. Sleek, long, faster than lightning, and looked like nothing else before it. A bat out of hell and the plane you'd see on every propaganda poster and advertisement of the era.
my grandpa (who served in korea) had a affinity for aircraft and was the first to show me the f-104 under the name widow maker
Another excellent and informative video production effort. The F-104 probably had the worst reputation of the 'century fighter' series of Air Force jet fighters of the 1950s and 60s (Super Sabre, Voodoo, Delta Dagger, Starfighter, Thunderchief, Delta Dart). Commendably, this short documentary does take the time to focus on the F-104's various virtues (as far and few as they may have been).
I think most people are familiar with the short comings of the Starfighter. There wasn't too much point in just trashing the aircraft for 15 minutes.
Great video! Wonderful and complete story of the F-104. Exciting footage and thanks for the list of movies that include the airplane. Thanks for all the hard work in its production.
8:01 It takes us halfway into the video to get to Ace Combat 7?
It’s important to note that Lockheed didn’t play fair
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_bribery_scandals
I hate fighting people with the f-104 in war thunder
hamburger
I mean, they look like an actual starfighter.
These Starfighters are a real b***h to fight in Warthunder.
That aircraft from Ace Combat 7.
So advanced in 11 years!? "Aliens"
A lot more positive than other 104 vids ...thanks
Awesome video JJ! Your channel is so unique man, truly I hope you know how much we appreciate your content as it is the best imo at highlighting whatever the focus subject is compared to anything else on the platform in such a concise, entertaining way. May this year be a blessed one for you brother, happy new year ! GodSpeed!
What an encouragement comment! Thanks so much! Happy New Year to you 🥳
Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters...Bob Calvert Album c.1974. Features shed load of British rockers taking the piss out of the whole F104 thing. Covers pretty much all mentioned here.
Nice vid, thanks and blessings.
“…winged missiles….”
Was it also known as a "Widow Maker"?
Wasnt it know as the flying coffin
No bucks, no Buck Rogers. 🚀
Can bullseye womprats, destroy battle space stations, harass imperial star destroyers. But never been able to take down a kaiju.
Another interesting fact, the starfighter fuselage formed the basis of the U-2 spy plane. Two very different aircraft sharing a common design.
LOVE the intro from The Right Stuff movie!