Overlaps vs Underlaps and WHEN to use them | BEST FM TACTICS
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- Neil aka FM Stinger is back here at FM Scout, and today it's Overlaps vs Underlaps and when to use them, as he takes you through how to make them work to create the best FM tactics!
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wouldn't overlaps be great for a narrow team so that the fullbacks give you width? and underlaps for a wide formation so that midfielders and such can run into the space you make by stretching the field wide?
How's it going folks. Any questions just drop them here or even twitter and I'll get back to you 🤘🤘
I often use underlaps as sick off my wingers/inside forwards getting free with no support and either shooting at the side netting or running it along the touchline straight to the gk at the ear post. Underlaps allows them to hold it up and play in my strikers/att mids that are hopefully chasing them down the middle.
Love this, definitely something I will give more of a look at now!
Man, I really should give the underlap a shot. Never realised the full potential of how effective it can be. Always played around it. Thanks for the guide. In fact, this might just what my team needs to save it.
Great content again mate 👍🏻
I always have 1 of each, overlap right, underlap left. And have a target man upfront on support, a poacher and an inverted forward/winger on left or right.
Centre midfield on attack on same side as inverted winger and target man.
These 3 work great together.... A wide midfielder hits cross early or lays off to overlap FB. It allows a full range of attack types
Nice video, I never saw the nuance before that it will hold the team play up. So from that, it would probably be best to use overlap when your best players on the attack are your FBs/WBs, as opposed to your midfield, and vice-versa?
Diamond work once again. Keeping FM simple
Dude.... I just stumbled across the underlaps. Fantastic! Searched for it and come across this video. Explained perfectly mate, thank you. I play a similar shape (4-2-1-3/4-1-2-3) and had problems with the overlap and now i know why. Cheers again. Have subscribed 👍
Fantastic explanations 👍🏻😎 I really like your very awesome content! Keep up your great work 😃 Cheers!
needed this mate thx u
Going to try out underlaps
Fits the way I want to play
Great video! I'm on a Liverpool save currently. I feel like my current tactics don't leverage the runs in behind by the Inside Forwards (Mané and Salah, on Attack mentality). Going to experiment and see if this instruction could get more out of them as well as a marauding central midfielder (Box-to-Box midfielder).
quality content, please keep that up :)
this is the first fm video where my brain went 🤯
In one of my saves I have an AML with 18 passing and 11 crossing who is best suited for the advanced playmaker role. Would underlap be a really good thing for him?
Probably, but there are more to think about than just him. Some instructions work better with others and some don't match at all, so take that into account as well :)
If you choose IWBs and select look for overlaps, in the build up he stays narrow, helping to maintain possesion. But, further forward the IW will carry the ball inside bringing the opposition FB with him, creating a space where the IWB will look to find. Your IWB needs good decision attributes.
that was very helpful thx a lot
Perfect video thanks
Loved this video. Really well thought out and insightful.
Cheers buddy
Use wingers or wide playmaker on support with underlapping attacking IWB'S! I like to use a midfielder in the inverted wingback position. A Ward-prowse type player is great at it.
Love this, so simplified
Great explanation. Thank you 🤗
thanks for the vids man
Thanks for the explanations!
Very useful thanks!!
Loaded my current save and switched overlaps to underlaps 😅
Overlaps also alter player mentality. It will notch your winger mentality down and make them less of an attacking threat goal wise i find
Good stuff. cheers
Thank you
How if we set up inverted wing back and use underlap when build up attack? Does it effective to face "the parking bus" team??
Underlapping feels like playing pass into space down into middle. Would pass into space with underlapping on be having too many through balls ?
If you want to your FB/WB to bomb forward and become the teams leading creative source very similar to Liverpool with Trent/Robertson, YOU NEED TO SELECT LOOK FOR OVERLAPS regardless of your WB on support. I have thousands of hours experimenting and came to conclusion that you need to select that option. Only CWBs are natural overlapping players without needing to be told through team instructions
I'll politely disagree mate 👍 its a team instruction to look for overlap it's not a player instruction to go on the overlap
@@StingerNeilD I agree with you. But the game engine for some reason doesn't reciprocate the same logic. The analysis report in the game clearly shows that WB/FB fail to overlap with player instructions set as well. They work only with team instructions on.
I've been testing a ball possession tactic for at least a week, I'm dominating my league (Brazilian Serie B) and I don't understand why the engine keeps forcing crosses even with everything removed and with focusing only on passes.
You must be right on this point, it is very difficult to master artificial intelligence, there are many loopholes.
@@R9Allan Analysis reports are a great barometer of checking your own tactics to see how effective it is. If you want to reduce the number of crosses than go to player instructions and set passing direction to short and take fewer risks
@@yellowscarlightningscream8347 I've done this. In ALL of my players. And they keep crossing balls all the time. The same with defenders making long passes.
Hi mate nothing to do with overlap instruction something else any idea on how to change the amount of sub I can choose from 7 to 9 like FM 20 had thanks
Change the amount of subs? I think that's different from league to league mate? Serie A has 12, Bundesliga 9.. If you want to change rules you need to use the pre game editor.
@@fmscout I got the game editor any idea how I do it please mate 👍
@@bradleybennett7543 Take a look at the site sortitoutsi, I think they released a patch correcting this. But to work, you'll need a new save.
@@R9Allan okay thanks and what you mean a new save will I loose my team I got now ?
hi can you tell me please how to stop through balls \\thank you
Make video about losc lille
2-2 in 13 minutes xD?
Shiiiiiiiiiiitttt. I’ve been doing it wrong for about 6 years 🤦🏼♂️
For me Bothlaps are absolute BS. I don't see any significant changes.
All i FM is realativ...never say it is it who says I now rules it is laier..
Question, why have i played this game so much, and still feel like eveything i do in that game doest work. thousands of hours trying to see what the match engine is showing me and it just doest make any sense. Little adjustmens in game to close the winger down faster or mark him a bit tighter? he runs in behind. drop your line one click back for your team to cover that, they drill wonder goals in from thirty yards. close the passer down a bit more it must be that, no no its not that, still getting beat 5-2 by the bottom of the league at home. Reload. Im almost done with this game for the simple fact of. These tactics have a specific code, like a rubiks cube and i dont know if i can be arsed. Not one video of anybody litrally just telling you how it is. all vauge vids sorta telling you but not. EG, how you set your pressing up on your back four? just tell us, 1cb on standed press the other on less press, while your full backs press full? or leave them all on standed press and just tweak in game? what are the actual basics.
For me, Football Manager is a risk management game. No matter what instruction you give, it will reduce the probability somewhere but increase the probability of another action occuring. It is up to you to decide which risk to mitigate and which risk to take depending on your team and your opponent's team. Also every team is different with different players. You play against the invincibles with T.Henry upfront or play against a Stoke with Peter Crouch upfront, you will have to play differently. Its not about mitigating all risk, its about mitigating the risks that are most important.
For example, lets look at defense. Think to yourself.. how is the opponent going to score. . Let's say you have determined that your opponent's biggest threat is that they have alot of long shot specialists, but no pace upfront, perhaps you can get your defenders to be more aggresive with stopper or a high line to block them. If there is a Theiry Henry reincarnate on the other team, you maybe might consider putting one or two men in DM to block the space instead and let your defenders hang back. Of course using any of this trick will mean space elsewhere.. which space is of course up to you..
Put it this way..If their DM is a Robbie Savage, do you really need to mark him? Free up the guy to do something else, maybe press a centreback. But if their DM is a Pirlo, maybe flooding your midfield is a good idea. However, Robbie Savage is still a professional footballer, and every once in a while, he is still very capable of scoring a worldie or pick up a delicate chip over your backline..its up to you to take that chance. Most people will risk it🤣
For offense. Similarly look at the report, and look to where opposition is weakest. If they have short cb, float some crosses in. If they like a high line, some balls over the top will be nice. If they have a rookie player at rightback, pit him against your worldclass winger. Etc.
If you are unsure, you can look at scouting reports to find out the major sources of their attacks and goals come from and where the concede the most chances.
Its a brainy game...Of course, if you really can't be arsed...you can go looking for tactics on the internet that win every game by explioting weakness in a game engine and mindlessly take Sunderland to CL final in 4 seasons.. 🙃 plenty of them around.
@@finding_aether thanks for the response, I never use guides or help to effect my gameplay or discovery of the game. I understand the game to a degree, but you just get a bit frustrated when by now I should know exactly what each button press does on .y players, when I say I can't be arsed its such a time sink and I've put enough in .
@@finding_aether one more thing, I think you do see your tactics being correct in the match engine in real time. You start to see alot more slick passing and more events you may not of seen before. That's when I know there good.
@@boomshanka4667 haha, well, don't give up. Even mourinho has trouble getting players to do what he wants. There are so many factors including player preference, player attributes etc. Flair, teamwork, aggression, decision, anticipation, concentration etc. Any of these can cause a player to screw up. You can ask a player to close down someone but maybe he loses focus, or he is lazy, or he things be is better than the team, or his opposite number is iniesta reincarnate and your player is just incapabale of reading the other player's movement.
There is also tactical familarity to consider. Just because you ask a player to do something does not mean he is physically capable to do it. Sometimes u just need different players. Or use a strategy that allows your players to shine.
Another path you can go the Arsene Wenger' route of just keep things simple and players make most of the decision... with all the consequences good and bad of cuz.🤣
I mean there is wisdom in this.. a midfield of CM atk CM def and CM support with maybe a target man is probably gg to work 90% of the time with 90% of teams. A team with a false nine, paired with a regista and mezzala and ramdeuter is gonna suit way less players in way less situations. .
If you are having trouble.. A captain of my former team likes to say "anything more than 3 steps is bound to fail".i suggest first keep your initial gameplan simple and make small changes during game.
Also learning to read the gane is important. Everyone has a plan until u get punched in the face
Then during the game, maybe after 15- 20 mins or 45 mins... and look at stats/highlights/assitant report and figure out maybe 3-4 things on how you can help your team. R u missing passes? Or your wingers are finding it hard to support the striker? maybe narrow the attack. Or is there lack of space? Maybe you should play a deeper line and wider attack. Are u dominating in the air? Maybe play for setpieces. Is there a player of theirs having a bad game? Maybe u can target him. Is there a player of yours having a bad game? Ask how you can give him more support. Like.. Is the oppostion overloading a player of yours? Is your striker having support? Should you play the striker deeper or push a player up to be more attacking? Again. Don't change too much or u may leave gaps elsewhere.
Also i know its tempting. But punishing player for bad performance is not always the correct thing to do. You need to know the reason. Sometimes he is complacent, lazy or lost focus.. maybe. Yes. But If he was trying his best but failed, or maybe he hit the post 3 times... gotta earn your management stripes in these cases. Patience is key.
Also, Good luck.🤣🤣 rng is rng.
@@boomshanka4667 about match engine. Sometimes it is bad. Even the developers admit to it. 🤣
But patience is important. Even ferguson and klopp needed years to make their team work. As time goes by your team will get better as u get better dynamics (between players), better tactical familarity, better players and you also get to know your team better.
Or as i said, u can go the AW way and let them do whatever they want and maybe win the double in 1 season (i think bergkamp- anelka/wright upfront broke the match engine that year🤣🤣🤣). It may fail or it may suceed, eitherway it will be spectacular🤣🤣🤣