Porsche 996/986 DIY IMS bearing replacement
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Jake Raby here, Flat 6 Innovations.. Glad to see that you loved my extraction tool design :-) I designed this one for LN Engineering back in 2007.
Simple and it works. Thanks mate.
Jake 😃 do you actually need to removed the chain tensioner under the A/C compressor?
@@khestehave yes, remove all three chain tensioners
On the used Porsche market in the US, replacement of the IMS bearing is often the first thing listed in the description of the car. So yeah, it changes the value of the car here too.
THe right tools always make life a lot easier! Great vid again Jeff!
Nothing more satisfying than a job well done. Excellent work. Enjoy your videos.
That was way easier, I barely broke a sweat. LOL Glad to see that done, going to be a lot less stress driving it now. Thanks for all of the great info.
Pleasure to see you work sir!
Good job, nice to have it sorted and the piece of mind that goes along with it.
Great work with the right tools. Happy days Jeff!
Skills Jeff. Informative video but daunting job. Well done and thanks for sharing it.
Brilliant mate. Very happy for you 😊 Sorting such things out really does put the mind at ease 😉
It is amazing how the right tool for the job makes life easier.....
I now know wat een ims bearing is Jeff. You explained it more then ones 🤟Hopefully its the last replacement of an ims bearing. Great work again and keep up the spirit ‘ down under’. Greetings from down under on the other side of the world 😎
The explanation is great so far thanks again for this.
When I heard the crack on release. I thought. Oops. But it was all good. Great job Jeff. As always you get it right in the end.
I borrowed a pilot bearing extractor from Oreilly's and cut a 6 inch piece of pipe and big bolt and nut to make a tool to extract the bearing, and made cam locks from an old hinge.
Nothing competes with “old school” engineering, you are one of a rarity, we talkin’ one over a billion category stuff
Good job and good lighting so fans can see!
Crazy good video, i have the 986 and enjoyed this
Thanks for sharing Jeff 👍
Yes, I'm still looking for the oil pressure feed to the bearing (Bushing) replacement that Jeff put in this motor. If you own a Porsche, you need another vehicle to fetch the parts to keep it on the road.
Awesome Job.....skilled work !
Great job. Thanks for making this video.
Normally just watching the Alfararri video, but perfect timing, as I'm shopping for a Boxster (although I'll probably wind up with the 97-99 with the double row).
The right man top i Love it great Job Love to watch all the Videos ❤️👍❤️
I want a 996. They are great value at the moment.
Great and informative video! Thanks!
Nice piece of work!!👏👏👏👏
Brilliantly done
You don't need to take off the front chain tensioner, and if the flywheel and cams are locked, you don't need to put the lock plate on the flywheel. I used an EPS permanent-fix roller bearing kit and EPS clutch kit. The clutch disk has more meat on it and a better hold.
good job mate!!
Great video once again Jeff. It would be interesting to know the cost of the bearing and kit, and how long the job took this time.
Right tool for the job, it’s more than just an afterthought 😂
The Mummy Bear of tools in Goldilocks’ world
The right tool for this job is a car lift. I can afford the IMS bearing kit but the lift makes this impossible for me to do.
Loved the video. Do you have a similar video for the Caymen/Boxter 987 ?
Hi, I recommend whenever you potentially disturb the cam timing of any engine to turn the motor by hand before using the starter motor, usually by using a socket and ratchet on the crank pulley bolt. This way you will feel if there is interference and not drive through it. The starter motor alone has enough torque to drive through clashing metal parts and I've snapped rocker arms with the starter motor. I didn't place one of the rocker arms on properly and didn't notice. Went to turn the motor over using the starter motor and snap.
Exactly as I mentioned in the video ;)
@@HomeBuiltByJeff Sorry mate, I must have missed that. That's why I shouldn't watch youtube after night shift.
Awesome been waiting for this. Want to do another one :-)
Haha. Hopefully I never have to do one again!
@@HomeBuiltByJeff I guess it depends on how long you keep the car. LN says that you should replace the ceramic bearing every 6 years/75k miles, whichever comes first.
@@stefanshapiro1245 Most of us probably will never have our cars for that many more miles, but I'm still thinking about the oil fed bearing. Should last forever.
I love the show Jeff but that opening music is so heavy! When i'm binging your show it knocks out my fillings!
Awesome yeah the proper tools make it easier 👍🏾👍🏾🤙🏼😀
3.4's had a single row IMS bearing. It is only the very early cars that were dual row. Also. I think you need to lock both cams, because you are releasing tension on both cam chains. There is a potential for the chain to jump. That is why the kits normally have two locks.
he already said that that on the bearing in the video. Also the chain doesnt have enough slack to jump, and gravity prevents it as well.
Nice work
Thanks for this.
I would have been inclined to use a slide hammer on the bearing remove, but you need to lock cams, etc the kit sounds good, but just releasing the chain tensioner and marking the cams positions and engine at TDC would probably be fine also... Those stretch flywheel bolts always concerned me, when I switched to a single mass flywheel on my C5 Allroad, the aftermarket flywheel I got it slightly used clutch disc, and pressure plate, but upgraded the clutch to a new custom made segmented kevlar disc for longevity. In my search for after market flywheel bolts ARP made flywheel bolts that would work, but decided to call Valeo to get the correct stretch bolts, they sent them to me free no charge....
Love your video, thank you.
I have a 2001 Boxster S.
Are they easier than the 911 counterpart to replace the IMS?
Same
Great job. Did you do the RMS last time in?
Great and Awesome job. What a relief...😁😉💪🙃
How you did check the timing after the camshaft plugs were in place.
Did replacement bearing have reals removed to allows oil mist lube?
Great video! What was the total time?
Funnest IMS job on utoob!
Can you tell me where from did you get that ims bearings
I thought all aftermarket IMS bearing solutions used an oil supply line to the new bearing. Hmm. I guess that’s one solution. Did you consider the oiled IMS bearing solution?
the Oiled ims bearing Is about 700 to 800 dollars for the kit. AN you haft to drimle a slot in the crank case to get the line to fit
The car had Mobil 1 previously, (the best in my opinion) why would you use anything else like Pennrite?
Nice work mate, how was the old bearing condition? I'm still driving with the original so need to get it replaced as well. Impossible without a hoist I would imagine?
My bearing was fine. There are guys who do it on jack stands, but a hoist makes things easier for sure.
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I thought about that, but the transmission for a 986 is around 175 pounds. That's heavier than I could move on my back in the garage.
Awesome! I wish you were my neighbor lol
What kind of power ratchet do you have and would you recommend it?
Toolpro. Works great.
Hi! I just want to change my dead engine M96.20/65X to same M96.20/65w. The big proplem in this operation its camshaft sensor. I have two sensor in both camshafts, but in new same engine only one camshaft sensor in passenger side (Left hand drive). What you can recomend? Will it be the new engine without second camshaft sensor working well or not? Do you know decision exists?
Wrong person to ask. Sorry
The bearings do last the life of the car.
When the bearing goes the car dies.
Haha, true, unless you are Hoovie and LS swap it ;)
Lol. Lifetime guarantee. When it fails its life expired.
Home Built By Jeff . That was a failed resurrection attempt.
It failed because he didn’t mitigate the oil pickup problem facing the motor backwards would cause.
Anom Amos
You're mean .....
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It would have been cheaper for him to put in a brand new 996 motor.
Nice job! One of you brake light led´s is not working. For you just to know😁
How many hours labour are you looking for ims,rms and clutch?
It took me about 12-15.
No centering peg when doing the clutch? Or did that not make the editing cut?
Camera battery went flat ;)
The Boxster 986 (1997-1999) has a 96.20 (2480 cc) engine which has the original double row bearing and has no problems.
From 2000 to 2002 were M 96.22; from 2003 to 2004 of M 96.23; the S from 2000 to 2002 for M 96.21 and from 2003 to 2004 for M96.24. who have the IMS problem.
So if I buy a Boxster from 1997 or 1999 I should be less worried? Ima scoop up that ‘99 Boxster then! Thank you!
Jiff finally realising Super Shit Auto tools aren’t as great as the sponsorship payments made them out to be 🤣
Fair!
Hello, how do you know if the IMS bearing is leaking? thanks
IMS generally doesn't leak, it normally just goes bang. The RMS leaks.
Why do you have to lock the cams at TDC to replace the IMS Bearing?
As the chains are driven by the IMS, and if they jump a tooth bye bye engine.
How did you open the drunk after disconnecting the battery... looked like you close the frunk afterwards 😱
Mine is a 996.1 with a cable latch ;) . 996.2 is electric.
Jeff - any tips on fitting the clutch back in? Getting it centralised, etc?
The best way is with a clutch alignment tool. I don't have one for this car so I made one.
@@HomeBuiltByJeff you make everything mate, love it. What did you make it out of? Need to do the RMS on my 997. Is the 996 running well still?
Right tools and correct procedure adopted. Try a cambelt on a JTS or twin spark Alfa. Again you need the correct tools and procedure knowhow. Great job. Methodical. Are you sure you don't want that super magnet for the Speedo drive recovery?
JTS's are RARE here in Italy [fortunately I might add...], I wonder how many of those are there in other countries
@@basstard13 Howdy from OZ. The JTS was an improvement over the twin spark and plenty were sold in Australia and in the European countries I have visited including Bulgaria and even Israel. Mine is a 2004 Spider manual with less than 75,000 kms.
@@Yosemite_Sam it was an improvement for sure and it was [as usual] way ahead of its time back then. I'm just not a huge fan of the 90s and 00s Alfiats. While they were playing with gas direct injection other european brands were slapping turbos on their engines making way more power and giving the user a much wider window for tuning. Those same brands would later on introduce direct injection on their engines and Alfa still took a few years to have a turbo gasoline engine in their line [I think the first one was the 1750 in the boat known as the 159]. Took them ages to have a turbo gasoline engine on a hatchback model which is the most sold stuff on the euro markets [the hatchback, not the turbo gasoline engine]
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello Jeff, Why not change the crankshaft outlet spy seal at the same time?
If not, great work as usual...
Bye
If you mean the RMS (rear main seal), I did that last time, so it is pretty much new already.
@@HomeBuiltByJeff , Oh Yes, sorry Jeff
I don't know where you get the courage to do this jobs, I'd be terrified lol
I was too ;)
I’ve got one to do on an automatic. Unfortunately engine and trans have to come out as one and then separated to do.
It looks like the early tips can be removed with the engine in, but the later ones can't. That is a pain.
Home Built By Jeff I’ve got a 2000. I can’t even determine if it’s a single or double row without disassembly. Lol.
@@StevenAndrews I believe the 98-01 tips can have the box removed with the engine in and you can double check the engine number to find out which bearing (I am pretty sure LN can tell you which you have).
Thanks for that cardboard trick, gonna use it for sure
Those simple tips make life so much easier.
@@HomeBuiltByJeff for sure, btw because of you I bought new welding machine for aluminium, wanna try it
Didn’t look like much oil came out when you drained it or did I miss something?!!
Time lapse!
A dumb question: why was locking the cam shaft position important?
Because if you don't, when you take tension off the belts, they could move, skip a tooth and you are in a world of hurt.
You really need to lock both the front and rear chains on newer cars single row IMS bearing cars (bank on the front engine)
Love your videos Jeff , but this one was nearly unwatchable with the number of adds.
interesting.. I didnt get any adverts at all?
Mike D'Silva , really , one popped up about every 5 minutes , strange.
Blame TH-cam, they’re the ones sticking the excessive amount of ads in, not Jeff.
Understand not Jeff’s doing , was about six add breaks , sometimes two back to back , usually only two or three add interruptions.
@@DavidJones-dm2eo I have been getting the same thing too, but on this video there were none?!
One Porsche fixed, one to go. (Would you have thought that this would apply to your life 5 years ago?)
Your Polly-v-belt looks old, time for a replacement? Do the idler pulleys at the same time.
Haha, it actually died just after I finished and I replaced it. It literally took 2 mins so I didn't bother filming it.
If the cam chains and guides etc are worn you will want to lock both cams as one could slip a tooth.
Are 996 and 986 identical in this instance?
Pretty much
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Why do you have to lock cams and remove tension. The bearing wont come out unless you do that procedure
To take tension off the bearing and to ensure the timing is locked in. If the timing moves you might have to say goodbye to your engine ;)
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They have 3 set screws for the ims housing to hold something in place. Does that help if I lock cam nd pin tdc. Or do I take off chain tensioners. Are there 4 chain tensioners.
Thanks for your video
Why do they want you to send the bearing back jeff!?
Yeah Mate Watch the video.
They sent a sticker to attach to the car to certify the IMS bearing has been replaced. If you are going to buy the car and see the sticker, you can call LN Engineering, and they will confirm they sold the replacement for that car, and received the old one back, implying that they know it has been replaced
@@Sharkerp38 aaah I guess it's a Porsche thing to have the confidence in buying and selling the car afterwards, never seen that before cheers
Theres an afternarket kit developed to fix the issues with the ims bearings giving a direct oil feed to it. tunersmotorsports.com/trs-development/ims-bearing-direct-oil-feed/
doesnt fix them. Theyre too weak for their load, and are of a missized tolerance from the maker. Porsche instead of enginnering it with proper tolerance...just left it
A record number of ads. I hope the $$$ are heading into your pocket. Awesome vid.
The tool kit is around 300usd
Was there an issue with it???
That's THE issue on those engines.
basstard13 A small percentage fail. His had xxx xxx kms on it... would of been interesting to see if there was any issue with it.
I call B.S On getting to the tensioner underneath the a-c compressor with out removing it.
Did they ask you not to show too much detail on the workings of the tool Jeff? It would have been good to see exactly how it works in a step by step. It's a good job out of the way...
No. That is it. basically screw it onto the IMS bearing and as you tighten it up, out it comes.
@@HomeBuiltByJeff Must admit to thinking it had broken off a bolt or something when I heard that "crack", but all good, out it came.
You look like Roger Federer ☺️
That's an awful lot of paint on the floor Jeff - you getting close to painting the Alfarrari?
@@DomDom282 I'm betting Rosso Corsa
Must be such a relief. Now you can just drive and enjoy the car without that in the back of your mind.
😘👌
Man-do you ever sleep? The Alfa and 2 911s-that is a lot? Feel sorry for the Porsche guys-no Fun Facts with Mrs. Jeff
I had an MX-5 for twenty years. Compared to Mazda, German engineering is a joke. Great video.
Every channel that I've seen does it to a 996. Again, the 986 gets no respect. A video of the wrong model is great for entertainment, but for someone who actually wants to do this work themself, they need a video of their specific model. Once you get the transmission out, the bearing change process is the same, but getting to the bearing is the hard part. There were roughly the same number of 996s and 986 manufactured so a lot of viewers are being ignored.
There is a great series on the 986 which is what I used for reference.
@@HomeBuiltByJeff Thanks. I took your kick in the butt and found it.
5.24....what's with the mask?? :-D
Clutch dust is carcinogenic ;)
5:24
@@HomeBuiltByJeff aha yes of course
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@@truthseeker8483 What does this mean please? I'm not that smart.
Not an easy one that .
Hmmm. An inaccessible bearing that can destroy your engine and everyone knows about it. Looks like German over engineering went a bit under engineered with this one. Anyway good job.
Two ways of looking at this.
1/ apprentice [engine] engineer/designer designed the bearing.
2/ deliberate to make owners take care in for regular maintenance...
Workshop time?
@@stuartd9741 I think I'll vote for option 1. Theres no way that fitting a washing machine bearing in an engine was ever going to be a good idea!🤪
I thought Porsche were good cars. They look terrible to work on.
Actually, I am impressed by how well easily most of it is to work on compared to a lot of others.
I put an IMS solution in my 2003 Targa and did a lot of other little things like the water pump, belt, idlers and some of the coolant hoses that looked suspect as the clutch and Aos had already been done. Interesting car to work on and a treat to drive. I used the same tools and they worked great.
Boxsters are pretty straightforward to work on once you get your head around the mid engined layout.