Today's historians believe that the script and culture of the Elamites came from the Jiroft civilization and not the Sumerians. Also, the examples of scripts found in Jiroft civilization are older than the first examples of Sumerian script
@@BenLlywelynNO ! ITS HUNGARIAN LANGUAGE ! = URUK - URAS = LEADERS PLACE , OR URUK ŐRÖK . UR = ÚR , CISH = KIS , LAGASH = LUGAS , NIPPUR = NAPÚR , AKKAD = A KÁD . Etc...
@ possibly but dravidians may have originally come from Iran and looked originally like Iranians prior going to India and mixing with the natives there
François Desset spent ten years deciphering linear elamite and its mysterious symbols. We now know that it was a language probably as old as Sumerian, and that it belonged to a different linguistic system.
Thank you. I did that research journey years ago, glad that someone else also seems to question the closed narritive by academia and bible commentaries.
@BenLlywelyn not usually. Although the last bid I did was 12 years but I won an appeal after 4 because the state chemist. Annie Dookhan that handled my evidence was the culprit in the largest drug lab scandal in u.s. history. At 18 we had a murder case that was clearly self defense but the state swine still felt the need to plant blood evidence, suborn perjury etc.. Sorry....
@BenLlywelyn on a linguistic note.....the only two examples I can think of where Americans use Cockney rhyming slang is in prison. BID - "I was doing a twelve year bid" I'm pretty sure it's a corruption of "bird"- birdlime- time "I was doing bird(time)"UK Also a "hit or miss" letter is a letter written in invisible ink made from piss.
Most interesting! I had already read a bit about them about them but could never imagine there was so much that has been revealed about them. Diolch yn fawr.
What's really fascinating about the dozens of ancient civilizations and empires was their ability to flourish and thrive in what are now wastelands of rock and sand. Something tells me this was not always so...what happened?
They used the trees to make fire. That has happened everywhere where is dessert today but had people living in it once. When you take the trees without replacing them the land will dry out and become dessert.
The earth’s precessional cycle tilts 1 degree every 72 years over a 26,000 year cycle. It has a huge impact on the angle of direct sunlight and ocean currents that dictate climate. In a few thousand years, it will be in it’s moist green monsoon stage again.
The Elam state is part of western Iran, and geographically exact location from 5000 years ago before Persian empire. After Tazi Arabs invaded Persia/ Iran around 1400 years ago, they burned libraries and destroyed as much of remaining sites and later the so called religious scalers and mullas intentionally distorted the history before Islam in Iran but Iranian people know their roots and the facts.
Great stuff. Sometimes the soporific voice is just what i need to be able to follow. Total opposite of modern babble with fast cuts. Although in my bed on phone with my white noise i cant hear it. This is a me problem.
Thank you. So many videos are non-stop speaking at fast pace with even breathing spaces cut out. Not me. Glad you get what I am doing... Noa da / Good night.
So in Welsh, Elam is spelled in two words ? (or a typo?) Of which one is "e" ? Or a grammatical feature maybe? I always found interesting the words containing only one letter. Like the very common "a", "à" and "y" in french ? ("il A pensé", "penser À", "Y penser" for example) (I didn't count when there is an ' next to the letter) Words
@@antonyreyn humour ok I briefly considered that possibility since it's so short that it does not look like a full sentence. In both cases. So I guess it could be a wordplay. (no need to explain it here if it's gross or so) Don't bother I'm sure I can learn Welsh as my fifth language. In a couple months. On weekends. (of course just kidding). (Bonus track:) A single letter for a word that's not common but exists in Romanian too... ... Aaaand if you try really hard you can even make a sentence with one word that has one letter : "- Aici, nu e? - Ba da. E." The last "E." meaning "It/he/she is ("here" in that context). So "E." is a sentence. It ends with a dot and begins with an upper case (and is pronounced like "yeah") and is a more casual way to say it. Properly it's "Este". Yeah too many letters, let's just keep the first one bro
I like the topic but I am put off by the pomp of the intro music and the affectatious speech. Could you just use normal pronunciation? This could be a really good video with a little editing
@@BenLlywelyn The affectatious accent is the big problem in this video. That accent would be fine if you were reading a book of wizard's spells to children but it is not appropriate for a scholarly informative video. The info you researched is worthy of being presented as a first rate lecture to peers.
@@OSUexhe didn’t charge you any money and he spent lots of time to create this video! But your are so very rudely complaining? U don’t like it? No one twisted your arms to watch it. Close the door behind you and leave.😅
Though not likely to be a related cognate. "Sus" ou "asupra" in Romanian is more related to "sur" ou "au-dessus" in french which all come from the cognate "supra/super" (like in superposition, supreme, surface,...)
Etymology can be tricky like in german, feuer is in fact by coincidence similar to the french word for fire : feu. But different origin. One spooky similarity I've found is between the Romanian "UȘĂ" which means "door", which is "uche" in...Waloon (a language related to a variety of old french and still spoken but by elderly people mostly in south Belgium where I live)
@@borntobewise87 Feuer and feu ancestor is romanian foc. German and french have the ancestor language as they are both indoeuropean. Proto indoeuropean is a type of vulgar latin, thats much older than latin and romanian is the oldest vulgar latin, the language of the thracians and proto indoeuropean. Susa is for sure an indoeuropean name. It is the oldest city of Persia but european thracians have older cities like Plovdiv thats older than Susa. Uche indeed comes from usa and if you want to hear old, romanian like vulgar latin language in that area, look up Occitan.
@@blain20_ yep the apostle Paul taught that Christians should just bend over and be passive and remain silent whilst atheists and cultural Marxists did their best to erase our history and tear down Western Civilization. Thanks for the reminder 😉
Great video. So grateful that I’ve found your channel.❤
Today's historians believe that the script and culture of the Elamites came from the Jiroft civilization and not the Sumerians. Also, the examples of scripts found in Jiroft civilization are older than the first examples of Sumerian script
Southern Iran is ancient.
@@BenLlywelynNO ! ITS HUNGARIAN LANGUAGE ! = URUK - URAS = LEADERS PLACE , OR URUK ŐRÖK . UR = ÚR , CISH = KIS , LAGASH = LUGAS , NIPPUR = NAPÚR , AKKAD = A KÁD . Etc...
I read Jiroft was older than Elam..Some like to change the history...to whose benefit?
@@BenLlywelynhittites are the first major power in the region 5000 BC
Beautifully made video
Thank you very much.
Imagine a Netflix drama series about these ancient Mesopotamian civilizations, in the vein of Game of Thrones or HBOs Rome!
You pay for the film crew, food and the gear and flights, and we'll go to nevada and film this.
Elamites the native Iranians. They had a huge impact on the southern Persians who started the Achaemenid Persian empire.
Persia is an anagram for Serapis.
yea since the persians setteled in that place after they took over
@@satanwithinternet2753 yea. They conquered the elamites and city of anshan.
Elamite language was related to Dravidian, so... no.
@ possibly but dravidians may have originally come from Iran and looked originally like Iranians prior going to India and mixing with the natives there
Wow. This was a real passion project.
Thank you.
I just found your channel.
Impressive video.
Looks like I'll be busy today discovering your other work.
Thank you very much.
Fascinating civilization
François Desset spent ten years deciphering linear elamite and its mysterious symbols. We now know that it was a language probably as old as Sumerian, and that it belonged to a different linguistic system.
That would be hard work!
Great channel. I’m glad I finally found it!
Thank you.
Thank you. I did that research journey years ago, glad that someone else also seems to question the closed narritive by academia and bible commentaries.
I was searching for Herodian origins and found Nimrod.
Totally unrelated....
I went in front of a judge named Harry Elam a couple of times. He was actually the father of the rapper Guru from gang Starr.
Are you innocent?
@BenLlywelyn not usually. Although the last bid I did was 12 years but I won an appeal after 4 because the state chemist. Annie Dookhan that handled my evidence was the culprit in the largest drug lab scandal in u.s. history. At 18 we had a murder case that was clearly self defense but the state swine still felt the need to plant blood evidence, suborn perjury etc..
Sorry....
@BenLlywelyn on a linguistic note.....the only two examples I can think of where Americans use Cockney rhyming slang is in prison. BID - "I was doing a twelve year bid"
I'm pretty sure it's a corruption of "bird"- birdlime- time "I was doing bird(time)"UK
Also a "hit or miss" letter is a letter written in invisible ink made from piss.
Wondderfull ❤😂 Thanks , best wishes
Hello sir how many languages do you know?
Able to speak. 3.
@BenLlywelyn Can you make Breton Lessons or more Welsh lessons
I don't know if I can make a living on TH-cam making the channel focus on Welsh lessons.
@@BenLlywelyn okay i followed you and i learning Welsh language for thanks to you
Also Breton
Most interesting! I had already read a bit about them about them but could never imagine there was so much that has been revealed about them. Diolch yn fawr.
Croeso! Glad to help you uncover more.
@@BenLlywelyn 😇🖖🙏🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄
What's really fascinating about the dozens of ancient civilizations and empires was their ability to flourish and thrive in what are now wastelands of rock and sand. Something tells me this was not always so...what happened?
Yes, the Middle East dried out. But also, the Middle East is sheltered from rough Oceanic climates that are bad for faming and forming tribal cities.
They used the trees to make fire. That has happened everywhere where is dessert today but had people living in it once. When you take the trees without replacing them the land will dry out and become dessert.
The earth’s precessional cycle tilts 1 degree every 72 years over a 26,000 year cycle. It has a huge impact on the angle of direct sunlight and ocean currents that dictate climate. In a few thousand years, it will be in it’s moist green monsoon stage again.
Nonsense 😊@@blackhawk7r221
Brilliant!!
The work is nice, but it's hard to understand for a half English speaker like me. Could you please add Turkish subtitles?
Do you know someone who will add them for me for free?
Elam.... God house.... There where the head of ZINO.... ZIMRI... YAHOOA... JOHUDA..... Will be on display... For all to see.... FACT
🙈 👁️ 🙉
What did I just read?
The Elam state is part of western Iran, and geographically exact location from 5000 years ago before Persian empire. After Tazi Arabs invaded Persia/ Iran around 1400 years ago, they burned libraries and destroyed as much of remaining sites and later the so called religious scalers and mullas intentionally distorted the history before Islam in Iran but Iranian people know their roots and the facts.
I wish Iran's people freedom.
Great stuff. Sometimes the soporific voice is just what i need to be able to follow.
Total opposite of modern babble with fast cuts.
Although in my bed on phone with my white noise i cant hear it.
This is a me problem.
Thank you. So many videos are non-stop speaking at fast pace with even breathing spaces cut out. Not me. Glad you get what I am doing... Noa da / Good night.
Brother ,
I understand that Elamite is comletely readable like Sumerian
François Desset and hia team completed much of it in 2020, but not all of it. We have a very good idea now.
Grossartig
Como eran físicamente los elamitas?
Como la gente de la zona hoy en día, creo.
little louder, please
How high is your volume?
@@BenLlywelyn it's fine. you're too quiet. idk, like introvert. free your voice, speak up.
In Cymru - E Lamb
Oen E
So in Welsh, Elam is spelled in two words ? (or a typo?) Of which one is "e" ? Or a grammatical feature maybe?
I always found interesting the words containing only one letter.
Like the very common "a", "à" and "y" in french ? ("il A pensé", "penser À", "Y penser" for example)
(I didn't count when there is an ' next to the letter)
Words
@@borntobewise87 I was joking, I wasn't sure if Ben was too, now I'm not sure if u are in on it too, leave us monolingual Mercians alone! Cheers
@@antonyreyn humour ok I briefly considered that possibility since it's so short that it does not look like a full sentence. In both cases. So I guess it could be a wordplay.
(no need to explain it here if it's gross or so)
Don't bother I'm sure I can learn Welsh as my fifth language. In a couple months. On weekends. (of course just kidding).
(Bonus track:)
A single letter for a word that's not common but exists in Romanian too...
...
Aaaand if you try really hard you can even make a sentence with one word that has one letter :
"- Aici, nu e?
- Ba da. E."
The last "E." meaning "It/he/she is ("here" in that context). So "E." is a sentence. It ends with a dot and begins with an upper case (and is pronounced like "yeah")
and is a more casual way to say it. Properly it's "Este". Yeah too many letters, let's just keep the first one bro
Elamite language is also mentioned in the New Testament on the story of the Pentecost (Acts of the Apostles)
הכל רשום בספר הספרים תורת ישראל אמת הנצרות הגיע כמה אלפי שנים אחרי , מה אתם באמת לא רואים ?
ספר הספרים יכול להיות רק ספר אחד ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
מתי נכתבה הברית ?
Thank you.
@@המאמין18 when Serapis wrote the septugient. 🎉
I like the topic but I am put off by the pomp of the intro music and the affectatious speech. Could you just use normal pronunciation? This could be a really good video with a little editing
My speech is built over years. As for the music, what would you like?
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@@BenLlywelyn The affectatious accent is the big problem in this video. That accent would be fine if you were reading a book of wizard's spells to children but it is not appropriate for a scholarly informative video. The info you researched is worthy of being presented as a first rate lecture to peers.
@@OSUex I agree! I stopped watching - the voice was so annoying and unnatural.
@@OSUexhe didn’t charge you any money and he spent lots of time to create this video! But your are so very rudely complaining? U don’t like it? No one twisted your arms to watch it. Close the door behind you and leave.😅
NOT unlike Herodotos' imaginary Medes😮😮😮
We can see clear that was a big war in the Middle East region , melted buildings, we are talking about high tech wars here .
Where can we find these melted buildings?
Many sci fi novels could be written.
what is the source for your claim that there are molten buildings in Mesopotamia?
Just look the ancient documents where ancients cities have been , and now you will only find desert and piles of mountains
English is the language God communiced with Moses by the burning bush, not Hebrew!
Sounds very H.G. Wells.
That's a lie.
@@blain20_ Historical documentation says otherwise. It's just the way it is 🤓
@@DoNotFear696 Absurd.
THANKS . ALL NAMES ARE HUNGARIAN NAMES EVEN TODAY . WELL HISTORICAN FACT , ALL OF THEM . Etc...
All?
Elam Musk
Sus=high, or up in romanian language. Susa =the high citadel.
Spooky. Thank you.
Though not likely to be a related cognate.
"Sus" ou "asupra" in Romanian is more related to "sur" ou "au-dessus" in french which all come from the cognate "supra/super" (like in superposition, supreme, surface,...)
Etymology can be tricky like in german, feuer is in fact by coincidence similar to the french word for fire : feu. But different origin.
One spooky similarity I've found is between the Romanian "UȘĂ" which means "door", which is "uche" in...Waloon (a language related to a variety of old french and still spoken but by elderly people mostly in south Belgium where I live)
@@borntobewise87 Feuer and feu ancestor is romanian foc.
German and french have the ancestor language as they are both indoeuropean.
Proto indoeuropean is a type of vulgar latin, thats much older than latin and romanian is the oldest vulgar latin, the language of the thracians and proto indoeuropean.
Susa is for sure an indoeuropean name. It is the oldest city of Persia but european thracians have older cities like Plovdiv thats older than Susa.
Uche indeed comes from usa and if you want to hear old, romanian like vulgar latin language in that area, look up Occitan.
@@BenLlywelyn There is a village named Susa in Piedmont Alps.
Said to be the oldest alpine town in ancient times.
Assirim= Assyrien
Oh?
drink a red bull before recording voice overs
I don't drink nail polish.
Like your video. Stopped listening because of your BCE
Glad you liked it. I practice Judaism, so not using AD / BC. You're choice if you accept other's faiths or not.
Paul taught against such foolish pettiness.
@@BenLlywelyn 😂
@@blain20_ yep the apostle Paul taught that Christians should just bend over and be passive and remain silent whilst atheists and cultural Marxists did their best to erase our history and tear down Western Civilization. Thanks for the reminder 😉
SO BOGUS and PRETENTIOUS. Click on Thumbs Down icon
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This isn't an airport. You don't have to announce your departure.