@ possibly but dravidians may have originally come from Iran and looked originally like Iranians prior going to India and mixing with the natives there
Today's historians believe that the script and culture of the Elamites came from the Jiroft civilization and not the Sumerians. Also, the examples of scripts found in Jiroft civilization are older than the first examples of Sumerian script
François Desset spent ten years deciphering linear elamite and its mysterious symbols. We now know that it was a language probably as old as Sumerian, and that it belonged to a different linguistic system.
Thank you. I did that research journey years ago, glad that someone else also seems to question the closed narritive by academia and bible commentaries.
Most interesting! I had already read a bit about them about them but could never imagine there was so much that has been revealed about them. Diolch yn fawr.
What's really fascinating about the dozens of ancient civilizations and empires was their ability to flourish and thrive in what are now wastelands of rock and sand. Something tells me this was not always so...what happened?
They used the trees to make fire. That has happened everywhere where is dessert today but had people living in it once. When you take the trees without replacing them the land will dry out and become dessert.
So in Welsh, Elam is spelled in two words ? (or a typo?) Of which one is "e" ? Or a grammatical feature maybe? I always found interesting the words containing only one letter. Like the very common "a", "à" and "y" in french ? ("il A pensé", "penser À", "Y penser" for example) (I didn't count when there is an ' next to the letter) Words
@@antonyreyn humour ok I briefly considered that possibility since it's so short that it does not look like a full sentence. In both cases. So I guess it could be a wordplay. (no need to explain it here if it's gross or so) Don't bother I'm sure I can learn Welsh as my fifth language. In a couple months. On weekends. (of course just kidding). (Bonus track:) A single letter for a word that's not common but exists in Romanian too... ... Aaaand if you try really hard you can even make a sentence with one word that has one letter : "- Aici, nu e? - Ba da. E." The last "E." meaning "It/he/she is ("here" in that context). So "E." is a sentence. It ends with a dot and begins with an upper case (and is pronounced like "yeah") and is a more casual way to say it. Properly it's "Este". Yeah too many letters, let's just keep the first one bro
I like the topic but I am put off by the pomp of the intro music and the affectatious speech. Could you just use normal pronunciation? This could be a really good video with a little editing
@@BenLlywelyn The affectatious accent is the big problem in this video. That accent would be fine if you were reading a book of wizard's spells to children but it is not appropriate for a scholarly informative video. The info you researched is worthy of being presented as a first rate lecture to peers.
Though not likely to be a related cognate. "Sus" ou "asupra" in Romanian is more related to "sur" ou "au-dessus" in french which all come from the cognate "supra/super" (like in superposition, supreme, surface,...)
Etymology can be tricky like in german, feuer is in fact by coincidence similar to the french word for fire : feu. But different origin. One spooky similarity I've found is between the Romanian "UȘĂ" which means "door", which is "uche" in...Waloon (a language related to a variety of old french and still spoken but by elderly people mostly in south Belgium where I live)
@@borntobewise87 Feuer and feu ancestor is romanian foc. German and french have the ancestor language as they are both indoeuropean. Proto indoeuropean is a type of vulgar latin, thats much older than latin and romanian is the oldest vulgar latin, the language of the thracians and proto indoeuropean. Susa is for sure an indoeuropean name. It is the oldest city of Persia but european thracians have older cities like Plovdiv thats older than Susa. Uche indeed comes from usa and if you want to hear old, romanian like vulgar latin language in that area, look up Occitan.
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Wow. This was a real passion project.
Thank you.
Fascinating civilization
Elamites the native Iranians. They had a huge impact on the southern Persians who started the Achaemenid Persian empire.
Persia is an anagram for Serapis.
yea since the persians setteled in that place after they took over
@@satanwithinternet2753 yea. They conquered the elamites and city of anshan.
Elamite language was related to Dravidian, so... no.
@ possibly but dravidians may have originally come from Iran and looked originally like Iranians prior going to India and mixing with the natives there
Beautifully made video
Thank you very much.
Today's historians believe that the script and culture of the Elamites came from the Jiroft civilization and not the Sumerians. Also, the examples of scripts found in Jiroft civilization are older than the first examples of Sumerian script
Southern Iran is ancient.
I just found your channel.
Impressive video.
Looks like I'll be busy today discovering your other work.
Thank you very much.
François Desset spent ten years deciphering linear elamite and its mysterious symbols. We now know that it was a language probably as old as Sumerian, and that it belonged to a different linguistic system.
That would be hard work!
Thank you. I did that research journey years ago, glad that someone else also seems to question the closed narritive by academia and bible commentaries.
We can see clear that was a big war in the Middle East region , melted buildings, we are talking about high tech wars here .
Imagine a Netflix drama series about these ancient Mesopotamian civilizations, in the vein of Game of Thrones or HBOs Rome!
You pay for the film crew, food and the gear and flights, and we'll go to nevada and film this.
Most interesting! I had already read a bit about them about them but could never imagine there was so much that has been revealed about them. Diolch yn fawr.
Croeso! Glad to help you uncover more.
@@BenLlywelyn 😇🖖🙏🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄
What's really fascinating about the dozens of ancient civilizations and empires was their ability to flourish and thrive in what are now wastelands of rock and sand. Something tells me this was not always so...what happened?
Yes, the Middle East dried out. But also, the Middle East is sheltered from rough Oceanic climates that are bad for faming and forming tribal cities.
They used the trees to make fire. That has happened everywhere where is dessert today but had people living in it once. When you take the trees without replacing them the land will dry out and become dessert.
Brilliant!!
Wondderfull ❤😂 Thanks , best wishes
In Cymru - E Lamb
Oen E
So in Welsh, Elam is spelled in two words ? (or a typo?) Of which one is "e" ? Or a grammatical feature maybe?
I always found interesting the words containing only one letter.
Like the very common "a", "à" and "y" in french ? ("il A pensé", "penser À", "Y penser" for example)
(I didn't count when there is an ' next to the letter)
Words
@@borntobewise87 I was joking, I wasn't sure if Ben was too, now I'm not sure if u are in on it too, leave us monolingual Mercians alone! Cheers
@@antonyreyn humour ok I briefly considered that possibility since it's so short that it does not look like a full sentence. In both cases. So I guess it could be a wordplay.
(no need to explain it here if it's gross or so)
Don't bother I'm sure I can learn Welsh as my fifth language. In a couple months. On weekends. (of course just kidding).
(Bonus track:)
A single letter for a word that's not common but exists in Romanian too...
...
Aaaand if you try really hard you can even make a sentence with one word that has one letter :
"- Aici, nu e?
- Ba da. E."
The last "E." meaning "It/he/she is ("here" in that context). So "E." is a sentence. It ends with a dot and begins with an upper case (and is pronounced like "yeah")
and is a more casual way to say it. Properly it's "Este". Yeah too many letters, let's just keep the first one bro
I like the topic but I am put off by the pomp of the intro music and the affectatious speech. Could you just use normal pronunciation? This could be a really good video with a little editing
My speech is built over years. As for the music, what would you like?
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@@BenLlywelyn The affectatious accent is the big problem in this video. That accent would be fine if you were reading a book of wizard's spells to children but it is not appropriate for a scholarly informative video. The info you researched is worthy of being presented as a first rate lecture to peers.
NOT unlike Herodotos' imaginary Medes😮😮😮
little louder, please
How high is your volume?
@@BenLlywelyn it's fine. you're too quiet. idk, like introvert. free your voice, speak up.
Elamite language is also mentioned in the New Testament on the story of the Pentecost (Acts of the Apostles)
הכל רשום בספר הספרים תורת ישראל אמת הנצרות הגיע כמה אלפי שנים אחרי , מה אתם באמת לא רואים ?
ספר הספרים יכול להיות רק ספר אחד ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
מתי נכתבה הברית ?
Thank you.
@@המאמין18 when Serapis wrote the septugient. 🎉
Elam Musk
Sus=high, or up in romanian language. Susa =the high citadel.
Spooky. Thank you.
Though not likely to be a related cognate.
"Sus" ou "asupra" in Romanian is more related to "sur" ou "au-dessus" in french which all come from the cognate "supra/super" (like in superposition, supreme, surface,...)
Etymology can be tricky like in german, feuer is in fact by coincidence similar to the french word for fire : feu. But different origin.
One spooky similarity I've found is between the Romanian "UȘĂ" which means "door", which is "uche" in...Waloon (a language related to a variety of old french and still spoken but by elderly people mostly in south Belgium where I live)
@@borntobewise87 Feuer and feu ancestor is romanian foc.
German and french have the ancestor language as they are both indoeuropean.
Proto indoeuropean is a type of vulgar latin, thats much older than latin and romanian is the oldest vulgar latin, the language of the thracians and proto indoeuropean.
Susa is for sure an indoeuropean name. It is the oldest city of Persia but european thracians have older cities like Plovdiv thats older than Susa.
Uche indeed comes from usa and if you want to hear old, romanian like vulgar latin language in that area, look up Occitan.
@@BenLlywelyn There is a village named Susa in Piedmont Alps.
Said to be the oldest alpine town in ancient times.