@@budmcnew7763 Aw, you’re sweet. It’s awesome when someone takes time out of their day to insult and demean someone for no logical reason. Sorry your mom didn’t love you enough.
@@budmcnew7763 So you’re sharing information everyone already knows and think that adds to the conversation? Still a backhanded compliment, dude. Your awesomeness never ends. Thanks for clarifying?
Im not trying to be a jerk, here. I just want people with less experience to not spend big money on "uber gear" before they hear good suggestions. A guitar set-up by someone that's a Pro is mandatory or it will just screw with you. They can get things to stay in tune that you want to kill... that guy should be your best friend. : ) You will never get a good tone without enough practice to understand how to play things so you (and other folks, by extension) like how it sounds and be able to sustain it for very long. There's no gear cure that gets around it, just like the earth isnt flat. Billions of People believe in silly myths, what can i say? Its not my fault, just I really want guitarists to not get caught up in myths. There are two things that are scientifically proven to affect the tone that is coming out of the amp. Everything else doesn't to much of a degree, beyond subjective feelings and experiments that are not well Controlled. The first is the speakers. If they are bunk or they aren't for the style of music you want to be playing... you wont like the experience and thats not going to help you get motivated to get the Hours. Find out what speakers the guitar players you want to learn the songs by have (on that specific song) and you're most of the way. In hard rock you're probably gonna want celestions, blues you want jensens. Beyond that I dont have that much first hand experience. You can get there with modeling software easily if you start there, but some speakers just don't work for some stuff. i can tell u fender speakers are never gonna make you happy if you want to play punk and metal. If you're playing extreme metal you need those speakers. The second thing is that non completely sealed finishes vs completely sealed finishes affects it. If it's sealed, then tonewood, blah, blah, whatever... doesn't matter. Just play ELECTRIC, it's less complicated. Everyone's got digital amps out that simulate all the effects and do it for electric and acoustic. some even do bass, too. I liked my old line 6 stuff, but i love my I can't even say which brand, publically cuz there is a legit cult (meaning, they ARE worth following and we do cuz we know but a LOT of the appeal is that the prices always stayed low. lol) that has followed them since early 70s. Every time someone tries to sell something, the price just goes nuclear
You're welcome. I dont want anyone else getting caught up in cults. even though that company deserves followers. they do everything from big, metal tube amps to little blues combos and great bass amps. their new digital amps kick ass. they made better strats than fender in the 80s and 90s and tons of other good and cheap basses and guitars in the US.
They returned them because they are wannabes that bought a cheap guitar and when they attempted to play and didn't master it in the first 30 seconds and their tender fingers got sore they quit and said I can't do it. Happens all the time. They like the idea of being a musician or guitarist but they don't want to put the work in and/or have no natural abilities.
Yup it's quite possible... I run into that very same thing in my fitness classes. Everyone likes the idea of being fit, but when it comes to putting in the work, it's a different story hahaha...
Out of my 24 guitar's . I bought 10 of them from Amazon. 1 of which was returned for a exchange because of electrical problems . So even though you have a valid point . It's not the only reason 😎👍✌️
@@garyshields3551 yup I hear ya... Everybody has their reason and it's all perspective. For some electrical issues or I level frets would be a deal breaker, but for me, I would fix it or address it and upgrade the electronics... But when I get a budget guitar like this one that needs nothing and is pretty much gig ready out of the box, I can't help but be 😁👍
@@j-man9457 The biggest reason, is that Amazon just allows easy returns, and they just try another one, exchanging them over and over. People do this with pedals too.
Not everybody buys "budget" guitars on the premise that "I need to work everything". Not everybody can do it. Not everybody WANTS to do it. We "moders" on the other hand, LOVE to buy budget and build GREAT! When one comes that is beautiful and near perfect, that makes them an awesome deal! I always expect a basic basket case to mod, and have NEVER received a complpete basket case. Even when I buy name brands...they come apart to make them "mine".
Yeah for sure! But exactly my point... Those who want a budget guitar that they don't have to mod, are not gonna find anything stacked like this thing! Not here in Canada anyway!
Just thinking about Jeff Beck and his struggle to sting. What ever to a length of wood , what a beautiful contrast to the idiots that returned those really nice instruments,
@@j-man9457 David Gilmours black Strat is a Partscaster that he modded every thing on. He once said that yeah I can buy any guitar I want, but to make it mine I have to set it up to fit me. I always liked that about him. I haunted pawn shops since the 70s for bits. pots, push pulls, switches bridges even hard tail string through bodies and quartersawn necks.
I bought an IYV ipf-300 last year, and it was reduced because of a so-called blemish. I found the blemish and it rubbed right off. Only issue I had was the neck thickness, which I fixed with my shinto file and mahogany nitro from Oxford. That guitar sounds fine to me.
My IYV got returned because the wood inside the body looked light a chainsaw carved it. I got a replacement which was way better but you have to question the glue joints and construction on the rest of the guitar. I own 30 guitars so I wasn't expecting perfection but the reviews are full of crap. The Glarry Telecaster was junk. Saddles, pickup and the frets raised. The gave me a partial refund and I did the work but it's not worth the low price they sell for. The Grote 335 was nearly perfect out of the box.
@@picker63028 ahhh thanks for the info man! Yeah good reason to return. Yeah I have had no luck with Groove, Jet, Michael Kelly, Eart... They all needed major work out of the box. You just never know🥴
Ahhh Jeezzzz thanks man! Lots of great players out there demoing guitars that are way out of my league... I'm just happy to contribute! Thanks for stopping by and commenting! 🙂
True true.or found out it really does take practice to play and that theres no guitar fairy that makes you a rock star overnight. Regardless of how many teeth you put under your pillow.
That applies to any instrument. The problem is us pro's (bone player here) or even semi pro's and good amateurs make it look easy because we've put thousands of hours of hard work in. People get put off when something isn't easy.....
@@ScratchySlide I was guitar center buying some strings a while back. And there was some kid maybe 12 or so with his mom and a guitar. I could overhear them talk. I guess mom and dad bought him a guitar found out you have to practice or it doesnt work. I couldnt help the temptation. I turned around and looked at them both and said, " What, you mean you thought you just gonna wake up one morning a rockstar"? His mom looking like she could use some sideline encouragement right away says, "Yep. Thats exactly what he thought". I told him its there, but theres three things to consider. You have to practice like you want it, your luck better shine as well. And most importantly. Is that the life you really want? I'll be homest with you. I dont think you do. Not that you cant. Its what you haven't seen yet. And if you're not willing to practice without being told, its already too late. You haven't sold the guitar yet, but you probably would be happier with an X box. He said," well what about you?" "I chased a dream that never happened. By the time I realized it, I was hooked on music and older than dirt. I didn't really want the fame. The moneys cool, but Im a one girl kinda guy. But nothing, NOTHING is better than playing a mean solo, even if nobodys there. Its not only a sense of accomplishment, but Knowing that came from you makes all the daily hours of practice worth it." Are you sure you dont wanna tell the guy you want the intonation adjusted, or you give up?" I seriously played the car sales routine beautifully. But I saw his and mom walk out to the car empty-handed. Maybe he did tell the guy he wanted it adjusted, but I doubt it. I did ask him before I left if he recorded any of his playing . He said no. Too bad Because everytime you play, you get better But you wont notice it because its gradual. Most people quit because the think theyve made no progress. Thats usually not true. Record yourself so everytime you feel you're not getting anywhere, pull out that recording and get ready to feel good again.
@@ScratchySlide But you write about people you never even saw. That is hard! How did you learn that? You'd say you stopped doing that, because it's not easy? What is going on, here? Is it easy, to blame others for being lazy? It is, isn't it? Is it?
Uh, how many people have any idea what an early tele actually sounds like?? I own a 68 I've had since 74 and I can watch a thousand channels on TH-cam with people telling anyone who will listen that just about any guitar made today is better than a Fender or that "some guitar" sounds just like a tele or a strat. (And that's through your TV speakers, sigh). Go figure...because IMHO it goes well beyond simple sound...the old necks were unique as were the varnish and frets. But what do I know, eh?
@@landofahhs_1 yeah man! No clue. I was born in 71 didn't start playing till 88. I've played Teles most of my life. Mostly 90s and up. I'll tell you with certainty that these Musis are every bit as good stock, as any tele that I've modded or upgraded over the years... Now when it comes to a 68, I'd say hell yeah! Would love to have one! Enjoy it and keep rockin!
@@landofahhs_1 , Totally agree. Sometimes people love the particular sound of an old guitar's electronics caused by wire rot. The wire then fails completely and is replaced with new wire and sounds different. Maybe a resistor or capacitor wired in might recreate the tone, not that I'm an expert.
@@j-man9457 There was a 60s 70sand the new player series I think is a 12 inch radius neck with the modern truss rod and 6 rattle saddles with 5 barrels instead of 3. Some don’t have strings through the body. I bet a dime it’s a 60s Vintera 2 with the thin neck. My 50s has the ball bat U neck that could have been why., I can’t play a thin neck.
I’m looking at a similar issue. I want a Gretsch with a Bigsby, but even in the U.S. made ones, they don’t have the roll bar, that keeps a guitar w/Bigsby in tune. It’s another few hundred dollars, to buy and have installed. There are other things in the affordable series of Gretsch w/Bigsby Indonesian, China or Korean made line, that also need work. I ended up looking at used ones, because most who kept them, had the Bigsby fixed, got better tuners and other upgrades, and they’re sold for not much more than a new one, that may or may not need $400+ in upgrades.
Buying used from someone that knows their stuff is always a good deal and as you said, more than likely most issues have already been fixed or upgraded!
@j-man9457 totally agree J man! Started drumming 3 yrs ago. Watching 4 yolds drumming isn't good for my health. Now bass for 2 weeks...t same. Loving t journey 🤙
Hey man. I can honestly say, both West Creek guitars I got from you, the 333 and the LP Junior style, both play and feel great. The M Musi plays awesome, and I keep it next to my desk all the time. It has become my "goto" guitar to grab when I want to work something out etc... the only issue I had (and you know because I popped in to your gig one night to grab a string tree from you) was the lack of break angle on the B and E strings. I used the M Musi at a country rehearsal, tuned to standard 440, and had zero issues. It sounded and played great! But that weekend, I used it at a gig, where we played everything from country to SRV, and we tune a 1/2 step down. With that reduction in string tension, it made the difference, and the fact that I am always playing open strings, the E and B strings kept popping out on me. The string tree fixed it 100%. They should have one installed on all their guitars out of the box. But for the price and the quality you get, I will gladly install my own any day. I might have to chat with you on that white Tele style... I might have to grab that one too. lol. Cheers Buddy!
many of those budget friendly guitars in my opinion are half baked.. Many need work...or have to be reworked... those budget companies save money, because they are half baked , the companies that make them expect us to finish the job for them... meaning we gotta fiddle with them . tighten a screw here, adjust here, change this, reset this.. I noticed the same treatment with budget bikes I have to fine tune them..
Definitely. They may have positives in terms of build at times. Some people get lucky with a beautiful build and decent playability but some get bad builds and ruins it all. Shotty strings or fretwork or whatever
That Musi has SS frets, a compound radius neck, and a bone nut, and locking tuners. Amazon ran out of them! That headstock is cut deeper to eliminate string trees! Nice playing!
Hey thanks and yes the guitar info is bang on... Don't forget the oversize strap buttons, compensated brass saddles, puretone jack, shielded cavities, full size pots and american blade switch, cloth wire pickups, roasted neck contoured heel and comfort cuts, and a perfect weight of 7.4lbs!😉
My guess is that the return didnt have anything to do with the actual guitar. Like they ordered a different color and got sent a white one so they returned it.
I don't understand why it would be returned, unless the buyer thought it should sound like you when they play it. I would not return it myself, even though I'm not a telly fan. I just wouldn't have bought it in the first place. It would have been my loss. It sounded good to me.
@@randywollin5732 haha thanks! Not sure if it's the playing thing 😊 but yes very good guitar! We'll never know why someone would buy this and return it...🤔
I bought a Musi tele for my daughters 15th bday. I looked good but lots of real quality issues that woulda cost money to fix. Hated to return a gift but we had no choice, unplayable. Guessing they don't resale all returns.
Wow really? I have yet to see a bad one... But that would warrant a return for sure I mean an unplayable guitar? That's a return for sure! But this one is totally playable like awesome playable... Can't figure what you'd buy for the same coin that would come close to this particular one???
Quit putting yourself down for your playing and I want that guitar. There is a list of reasons why somebody would send it back. Some snob buddy bugged them because it wasn't an Fen' . It doesn't have the lipstick neck pickup. They don't like the locking tuners. They used a cheap and S#!Ty chord that was likely defective. They had a low quality amp and this beautiful guitar didn't make it sound like a million bucks. They think they prefer heavier and/or lighter strings. They are stupid and they just ordered it for laughs. They got it, a buddy heard about it and flogged one they were trying to get rid of. They wanted a more antiqued white. Yes, the "high" action could have been it. It doesn't have all those crunches and klicks the Fends' on the wall have so they think there is something wrong with it. Maybe they didn't like that sexy cutout on the head or thought it was broken. They saw it and decided they didn't like the chome, preferring black. The sound was too clean. Daaa! It didn't come with a cheap and S#!Ty chord. I think that is enough for now.
I bought a Firefly that was called out for having microphonic pickups. I got it fully expecting to swap the pickups. But they weren't putting microphonic pickups anymore. $225 for a beautiful Les Paul copy in perfect condition. No work necessary. I paid more for the case to protect it than for the guitar.
Amazon Customers did return these Guitars because this J-MAN is such a Great Guitarist that convinced them that they should Quit and Retire from ever attempting to become a Guitar like Him!
My FFLP needed fretwork. Some were popping out. Now, it plays fantastic. The tones are amazing. I run it through three early '70s Ampeg V series amps. Golden tones, unmatched.
Maybe, just maybe, they didn't bond with the guitar. It just didn't "speak" to them. That's not to say the guitar isn't technically fine. It just left the previous owner wanting for something else.
Just How do you buy a returned guitar from Amazon? I tried various searches but came up with nothing. What am I doing wrong? Very good video btw, subscribed!
Ive just had my fingers burned basically highlighting this point. Seems the video was some kind of hypothetical situation for the purpose of talking about the guitars? Anyway - Who is the viewer to suggest a presentation could be in any way misleading
Thanks man... It's not easy, it's just timing... When you click on a thumbnail of a guitar then the ad and info open up, sometimes if you're lucky you'll see written below the price listing something like “save with used like new“ and if you click on that link, it will give you an option to buy an open box/returned model. But those are not always in the inventory....
I took a chance on one Westcreek guitar. It was awful. I got rid of it, and for next to nothing. And that was after spending a couple hours trying to set it up, and dialing it in. I finally got it to where it would (basically) play. And that's about it. It was terrible. And I am a budget-guitar lover. Bought bunches of them in general, and bunches of them off of The Zon. And I've been pretty lucky. But every once in a while, you're going to strike out if you play the game. I don't buy the M Musi Guitars. But it looks like they are a big step up from some of the others. But you also pay more for them. So they should be pretty good. My 2 cents.
100% buddy... They are more money and yes they are a quite the step up as far as hardware electronics and features go.... Surprised with your Westcreek experience. I have played, set up and reviewed, every model they make and multiples of each models... Yes some require more set up work than others but all of them have been super easy to dial in with superb fit and finish. You obviously received one slapped together at quitting time on a Friday hahaha!
Loved that segment that you started playing at the start ... seemed like it was kind of bluesy ... old 50's rock ish .... and some mix of honky tonk ALL mixed in . Then you caught my attention again with the music of the boy from B.C. Now that sounded just like B himself .
I bought their "333" in Pebble blue ( a Gibson 335 inPelham Blue knock off). It looks a lot like the Dave Grohl model, but imho, it's better looking (it even has F holes instead of that weird diamond thingy). Out of the box the neck was seriously back bowed, but everything else was great. A simple adjustment of the truss rod with the (included) hex key, and I was good to go. Disclaimer: I'm no expert, so my "good to go" might be dog poop to someone that knows anything about guitars, but at any rate, I have NO regrets about spending 200 bucks for it.
@@LuckyFlesh nice man! I bought the same one a while back... The Blue 333 and yes it rocks! Everyone sets them up differently to suit their playing style. That's why every and any guitar you buy, brand name or budget, will require some kind of set-up 😉
J-MAN, good to see you again! @9:00 and on - whoa! You are sounding fabulous. I like that guitar, the headstock reminds me of if Fender and Parker had offspring. I still have my EART telecaster, it shares a lot of similar features. I replaced the repulsive green pickguard ( on a BLUE guitar) with a cream pearloid one. Probably keep it forever. Take care.
Jeepers man! Yeah I remember you! Glad all is well and you're still playing! You're right about the Parker fender thing! Hahaha Take care as well and keep rockin'!
Hang on.... You made all those judgements about why people returned these guitars before you even looked at the guitars???? Like you presumed they were stupid before you even checked the guitar? Thats mental and it all sucks of something disingenuous. You know full well if neck was broken it would be returned. To base a video on why people are returning guitars to Amazon before you even look at why - is just pure crazy and makes no sense whatsoever.
Woah easy there captain negative! I own multiple Musis and WestCreek guitars. Just look at my video list before making Blunt assumptions. I also have been buying guitars and and playing guitars for over 35 years. I have never received a Musi or WestCreek that was so bad that it needed to be returned. In fact I have sold quite a few of these from my own collection so I could buy more of them and every single person who bought one was super impressed with them. So no, unlike you, I wasn't calling anyone stupid. My title was simply to see if I could come up with a physical, structural or performance related reason as to why someone who ordered a guitar like this would end up returning it. Then the goal was, if I did find an obvious issue, to try and fix it as to help others fix similar issues on their guitars... These guitars are fantastic period. Anyone who says otherwise has just been conditioned to believe if it doesn't say Fender or Gibson on the head stock that it's no good. It's fine but I don't think that. And I've played enough Teles in my day to know a good one when I see one. Obviously had I opened the box and the headstock or neck was broken, it would of made for a short video! “Oh look guys, the neck is broken, returning it was a good choice!“ the end! But I was going on the assumption that this guitar was as good as the ones I currently own and have reviews in past videos... My assumption was right! It is. It's actually better than mine. Mine needed more work than this one to set up. I know without a doubt that whoever returned it will not find a better spec-ed guitar for under 500$. Not here in Canada anyways!! I explain all of this in part to during my conclusion at the end. So before belittling and making accusations towards people who's values and intentions you know nothing about, do your research, watch a few videos and then comment! Jeepers!
@@j-man9457 I am sorry - Its crazy to say all this like I am being mean. Your video had a title - and the way in which the video ran implied that peope were sending guitars back to Amazon for no reason. If you think about it - the video is entirely pointless. LITERALLY pointless. If the video had been " I love these guitars and here is why" - Well that would make total sense - but to say " Why are people returning them to Amazon?". One question I would ask is "How do you know they were returned to Amazon?". What was the process for you knowing they had been returned and surely if they had been returned and there was a process to inform you of the return - you would have been notified of why they had been returned and being sold on to you. None of this is explained in the video and just seems really odd. I have used Amazon for years and have no awareness of a service they offer selling returned goods - but maybe they do? If they do then it would be useful to know -and useful to tell the viewer. If there is no such service then how did you know they were returned? Reading your reply, it seems that they werent in fact returned at all and the title was some kind of doorway into talking about them? Look - Its all very odd and I am just being honest. I watched the video with genuine interest because the title suggested to me I was going to find out why people were returning a guitar - Its in my line of work - so its interesting. However you want to reply in the sensitive way you have done - I am the viewer of the video - for whom its intended - and you have created a video with a misleading title (for all the best intentions I am sure) - in order to do whatever it is you do - and you have implied people return guitars for no good reason - I am pretty sure thats what you were implying - If I watch it back. Considering it APPEARS you are now saying they werent returned guitars and the whole situation is hyperthetical then its crazy you would be talking about why people return guitars unnecessarily as if you are looking for problems with the guitar. For what its worth, I literally cannot find any reference to the model - name - anything - price? If you love them and want to promote how great they are - I am personally still completely oblivious to what the guitars are. I am not a negative person - I merely gave feedback on the basis that I felt the title was misleading - and you have explained in essence that it was. So I will leave you to it and sorry to have upset you.
@@RichardsGuitarshop sorry man I may have misunderstood your intention... I can't tell you how the whole return process works as I don't know... But this guitars came up as “try used like new“ below the listing after you click on the thumbnail... I have bought tons of stuff on Amazon that way in the past. You save money but it's a gamble as you don’t know what you're getting. The box was beat up and retaped... Pretty obvious it was used. I save 150$ish, the pickguard still has plastic on it but it is covered in pick / nail scratches so this thing was obviously played and the inside packaging was torn. I may not be as good a guitar tech as you but I can certainly tell the difference between a used and new guitar. I own a few hahaha This thing was definitely returned. When it landed, we were going through funeral prep for my mother in law's passing... Guitar sat in the box in my basement for the last 3 weeks. I told my wife, I wonder why someone would return this? I have several musis. They are all fantastic. Keepers for sure... So curious, I titled my video why do people return these...... You know the rest. I seriously don't know what you could buy or build for this price even new, that would be as good! So I wanted to see if there was a serious problem with it and there absolutely isn't! So the reason for the return is a personal one and not a structural one.... Still not 100% percent sure why you care.... As a luthier why are you watching videos on Amazon guitars anyway?,,😉 It's not uncommon that you haven't heard of these as to my knowledge they have only been in North America for the last year and a half. Since this video, I can't find a single Musi on Amazon. I'm in Canada so Amazon.ca... not sure where you're from... I have been checking amazon for the last 2 days and they are gone. I assume they are out of stock but who knows maybe they had a falling out with Amazon or they went out of business.... Here in Canada a brand new Classic T style is 485! I can't even buy a Roasted maple neck with Stainless Steel frets and a compound radius for that here let alone a complete guitar! I hope they haven't closed up shop!!! I have emailed amazon to see if I can get answers. If I do, I'll post a video on that too and I'm sure some people will get upset over it but oh well! The title sorry to say, is not directed towards you... The people who follow my channel, god bless em, know I love these guitars, they know I have every model Musi makes and they understand my title as they know I would never return one of these, as they ARE that good! That's it man don't read more into it! I'm not on here to make money or to sell you gear. If you get curious and buy something I shared so be it. Only the manufacturers and Amazon make money on it, not me hahaha. Not all of my reviews are good. Check my Jet guitar series or the budget groove guitar review I did. I'm always looking for something that will be better out of the box than these Musis but I haven't come across anything yet that comes close dollar for dollar. Anyway, You take care, I wish you all of the best with Richard's guitar shop, and if you think your guitars can rival these musis, send me a link, I'll buy one and review/promote it on my channel. And don't worry, I won't return it :-) J
Hi! Glad we sorted it all out ❤. What price are the guitars - let me know the budget and I’ll let you know what I’d recommend . Sounds like you have found something you love and can recommend and it’s so rare for anyone online to be actually doing that so total kudos to you! Nice work - and sure if you give me a budget I can certainly give you my 10 cents worth of thought on it! 😊
Do you have one? Nothing cheap about these man... Materials are great, hardware is great and electronics rival any 1000$ fender I can find on the wall at my local music store. For less than a Squire? It's a no brainer!
You cant shop a neck profile online. Ive returned or sold off 4 since 2020 bc i ordered then didnt like the neck shape when i got it.only 2 i kept were an Epi LP 60s which i knew the neck would be fat but its ok bc thats a Les Paul. And then an Aria Pro2 Jet1 w the most wonderful med C strat neck w med frets Ive played for the price.
Yup totally get ya... However in the spec list for these it does say slim C shape with 9.5 to 12 radius so for anyone reading up before they buy, they should have a pretty good idea of what it's gonna be like no?🤔
@@j-man9457 I find it hard to disagree with what you've written here, but "slim C shape with 9.5 to 12 radius" doesn't say anything about thickness nor width of the neck at different points. It also assumes the buyer is experienced. A fraction of a millimetre over the neck width can make a significant difference to how it feels in the hands, and I think it's impossible to know if it's a good fit until you've spent some time playing it. Whether this is why somebody bought/returned a perfectly good guitar is anyone's guess. Maybe it was an unwanted gift, or the colour of the guitar didn't quite match their decor when they opened the box 🧐. I enjoyed your video and your playing in any case mate 👍
OMG thanks man! You are too kind! There are much better players on here than me and they are not hard to find! I don't measure up, but I certainly appreciate your comment. You made my day 😊!
Great, down to Earth Reviews as usual ! 👍👍 Thanks Jay ! 😊 P.S. Judging from the Pixelation on the back of the Neck, it looks like a 1/4 sawn Neck ? 🤔 Which is another Positive ! 😍
I bought a returned one from Amazon that was DOA with no sound coming out. Those are easy fix. I got another return that I could not find anything wrong with it. And the last one there was a buzz on one fret. The fret needs to be dealt with, but the action was too low, so I raised it a bit, although i do like it low. All these guitars had brand new nice strings on them as people do this first.
I know why they returned it. They couldn't play it the way you can. They then settled for the $89 Aamoon that sounded just as good to them. When you go out and get a good guitar and you are just learning to play the $89 guitar just makes more sense. I personally can't play worth a dam so maybe they are in my shoes and not yours. Anyway, you continue to amae me with your talent. Watching your fret hand bounce all over the neck is astounding to me. Love your vids!
Hahaha well thanks Rainer! Very kind of you to say. But really learning on a budget guitar is fine but a poorly set up one makes the learning process longer because you are always compensating... Budget wise, I understand your point....🤔
We will probably never know why people returned these guitars. Probably these guitars are not suitable for musicians and for music. These guitars are good for athletes who run their fingers across the fretboard making random notes. Imagine some maestro choosing a violin. Do you think he will run across the fretboard like a crazy horse? That's all.
@@j-man9457 Exactly. Drop it, it's not for you. If you wanted to say something about guitars, you'd better ask Mr. Blackmore to do it. And you'd better record videos on a sprint treadmill.
@@j-man9457 No problem. You can do whatever you want, of course. But firstly, this is a public space and no one filters people's opinions here. Secondly, it is still worth thinking about the meaning of the information being transmitted. We all understood that these guitars were returned. But why they were returned, we still do not know. And of course, then it is logical to show some meanings. Precisely meanings, and not playing on a guitar that does not break anything. But there are questions. Do these guitars sound good with a clean sound, through a powerful tube amplifier? Do these guitars have natural wood sustain, again, it is desirable to hear with a clean sound. Do these guitars hold the tuning well. What is the scale length of these guitars and are there enough neck adjustments.....well, and many other questions that would be of interest to potential owners of such guitars. It is desirable to accompany such a video with a beautiful, slow melody and the sound of the guitar revealing the potential inherent in them........simple.
@@abzstr yup you are confused because you have not followed me before. I reviewed my first Musi tele 2 years ago almost. Unbelievable value for the price... I bought this on as a return wondering why it was returned... And we will never really know the answer. I was expecting to find a flaw, a construction fault, a defect, a playability issue, but this guitar was almost perfect out of the box.... So the reason had to be something other than the guitar. For under 500$ there is nothing out there in a T-Style that comes close! Cheers!
It's just timing man... So when you're looking at a guitar or an item on Amazon, just scroll down just below the price and sometimes you'll see an option that says :"save with used like new". Click on that and you'll get an option to buy a return open box of whatever you're looking at... However Amazon's description of used like new is not always accurate just FYI! Good luck!
Returned because of the Headstock, it’s U.G.L.Y., you ain’t got no alibi, it’s ugly, it’s ugly. The body forearm contour cut should be more of a smooth contour instead of the pronounced shape with the line showing. It sounds good and seems to have quality parts, I think it was returned because of the cosmetic appearance. WDIK, I own a James Tyler with the funky headstock that some people can’t stand but some pay used $3000 up to $10,000 new for some models.
He returned it because….HIS WIFE SAW IT !! 😂🤣 Cheaper to send it back than get divorced over your 20th guitar that you don’t really need! Probably thought it was a great deal and she wouldn’t notice another Tele on the wall.
Maybe it wasn't a return' maybe it's a marketing scheme' over stock' discount guitars' a way to get rid of them' sale them for less money to get people interested in their products... knowing TH-camrs will do video reviews on them to get free advertisement Wonder how will be sold now that you've advertised for them? Maybe you're in on it? Without even knowing it? Lol
Hahaha nope the name of the first buyer was on the box as well lol! Oops Amazon! I pay for all the guitars, pedals amps etc... I review on my channel, and if something changes I'll let my viewers know. I love guitars especially telecaster but fenders quality has gone down over the years but their prices have tripped... These Musis are wicked good! Even better if you can get one at 40% off!
I would say pickups......hardware is sometimes pretty sketchy.... :p For a string T, I use the Reverend 3 string , on these type guitars, or 2 Fender style Ts....yeah, let's hear it for a bit...most returned instruments are gifts or the owner is not in guitar class...it sounds pretty good but I would probably swap pickups....:D
Yeah I hear ya... But keep in mind my playing is just fair, and I using a small transistor amp and a 10 inch speaker. These pups through DR-Z would sound killer I'm sure! 😄
People return low to moderate price guitars for many reasons, and not necessarily because the guitars are defective. For example, I think it's indisputable that many guitar players are extremely fussy/picky about certain things peculiar to them. And if they pick up a guitar and it doesn't immediately appeal to them for whatever picayune reason, they're done with them. Amazon lets them get away with this. And what about Aunt Susie, who buys her nephew Johnny an Amazon guitar for his 21st birthday because she heard he plays guitar - so she buys him *a* guitar, not knowing Johnny is been in several bands over the years and already has good gear for specific reasons. Johnny's probably not going to hang onto that thing just to please his aunt. So back to Amazon it goes. And so it goes. On and on. Nothing to do with the guitars themselves. Just the logistics of Amazon facilitating the return of product for basically any reason. I'm not finding fault with Amazon - they can adopt any return policy they wish. It's just the nature of many guitar players.
7:19 Strum an open chord so we can hear it as you turn the volume and tone up and down. If they're scratchy, that's when you'll hear it. Also for the hum, it can be generated in one or both of two ways. One is magnetic from a power transformer in equipment picked up by a single-coil pickup as you were trying to demonstrate (the closer to the transformer the louder the hum, and the guitar's angle with the sourcealso affects volume), the other is electrostatic, which you can hear with "high gain" (lotta distortion) and NOT touching the strings or any metal hardware on the guitar. If you get hum the second way, it needs the control and pickup cavities shielded.
@@TranscendentBen Hey good info! 😀 I have 3 of these classics... I gig with them regularly. Pots are not scratchy at all. Nice full size smooth pots. These guitars are already shielded from the company. They come with shielding paint throughout. Also pickups have insulated cloth wire pickups. I never get noise with any one of my M-Musi Classics... For this video, my phone (mic and camera) is literally on a stand next to my amp, and I'm an arm's length away from the amp and phone sitting on that chair... 😃
I'm with the J-Man on this. Probably most guitars sound great in his hands. But, I could tell from the outset chords it has a great sound. As he said, the neck was straight. So any playability issues were going to be fixable. Odd that someone returned it. But one never knows the full story of each guitar.
Thanks... That's right we don't really know. I had the title for this video planned before I even opened the box. I was expecting to find a major flaw or playability issue but in this case the return wasn't due to the guitar being problematic out of the box... So probably a money issue, color issue, neck feel, weight or simply a curiosity issue... Who knows 🤔 Haha Cheers!
Is that a thick C neck like baseball bat, it's what I'm looking for if it is. And maybe it hurt his hand of it is and that's why it was returned. personally, I hate thin necks and .10-gauge strings. I hate sissy setups I mean lol
Non these are more of a slim C neck with 9.5 to 12 radiused fretboards. They come stock with 10-46 but I installed 12 to 52 on a customer's Musi with no issues at all. These necks are super stable!
YOUR COMMENTARY IS JUST TOO INTERESTING TO IGNORE! You have a great Canadian sensibility about your playing, your analysis, snd your thought process! - Hey we play Hockey b/c we love ❤️ Hockey! Likewise playing guitar! ' I get a kick out of the Rx you get from some of the American listeners!'Rock on, Dude! Your playing is awesome! NOW I've got to go see the Edmonton Oilers Stanley Cup game against Florida! Keep up the great guitar work! Cheers!"
Wow! That sucks! And that is a good reason to return a guitar. A twisted neck is a serious playability issue! Not the case with this one... The return had to have been for a financial reason or a wife reason lol 😆
Yeah I can see how that would turn someone off... Some Squires are very good but for me, I really like the full size pots, the blade switch, shielded cavities, roasted neck, contours, SS frets etc... all of which are not options on a Squire... Well not the ones here in PEI at our local stores anyway... I'm glad you found a guitar you vibe with... After all, that is what matters most 😉
Mine is a beautiful vintage blue. Though I bought mine new, my experience was similar to yours. I was especially impressed with the comfort carves. Also the vintage looking rope wrap around the bridge pickup. Very cool. The neck roast on mine is a bit darker than yours. The SS frets are perfect. Reasons why someone might return a beautiful guitar like this? 1- Thought the guitar could teach them how to play. 2- A "friend" sold them on the idea of a Fender. 3- The model name. I'm cool with Virgo (that's my horoscope sign). Virgo's symbol is the Virgin. Maybe this dude thought his pals in his band would tease him. Or worse, introduce him as "ladies and gentlemen, on guitar the virgin of the group..."😂
Hahahaha never thought of that! I'm sure glad I'm not worried about what people think of me because I'd be missing out lol! Glad you got a good one too! Rock on!
I agree, maybe because of the break angle issue. I have a Sire T-3 Tele, also with no string trees, and the high E string pops out all the time. I would have string trees installed on it, but the guitar doesn’t sound or play anywhere near good enough to spend a dime on it. It’s a “trade-it-in-at-guitar-center-for-$100 bucks” paper weight. What is the big deal about having a string tree to begin with, so there’s no chance of that problem? Tuning stability? On a Tele? No, nobody should have to deal with strings popping out of the nut, and that problem can get much worse if the string gauge is changed from tens to nines. Also could be the neck radius (if it’s not 9.5”). I returned (on Amazon) a fantastic sounding and superb quality Vola brand, made-in-Japan Tele-ish (forgot the model name) guitar because it had a 12” radius that I hated. Could be the neck carve - maybe it’s too “baseball bat” feeling. That can really fatigue some people’s hands. It could be something else about the neck carve that the person didn’t like. You fail to mention some very important specs. Is the back of the neck satin? Really fast and slippery?I HATE fast, satin necks. I’m used to, and, I like a neck with a coating on it; It’s not as fast, which is a good thing for me, and I use the back of the neck for friction so I can hold certain stretches without slipping. Does the fingerboard have rolled edges? Are the edges “too” rolled? I don’t like the way my Sire T-3 rolled edges feel even though their rolled edges are patented and called “Edgeless”. I guess I like edges. Could be be the stainless steel frets. I prefer nickel frets (and so does Paul Reed Smith) over stainless steel. Just a feel thing, although I would be inclined to try and deal with that, as long as they were “medium jumbo” and not “narrow-tall” (ugh) or extra-jumbo (ugh). And last, I didn’t hear any drop dead gorgeous clean tone like one would get from a good sounding Tele in the middle position (both pickups) playing a few lush jazz chords into a blues junior or other Fender tube amp with a little delay and a touch of reverb. Doesn’t mean it doesn’t have it though, I just didn’t hear it.
@@jayaz7781 hey thanks for the detailed comment. I'm surprised about the Sire. I hear they are really good... Glad to hear from someone who has one! This Musi did not need a string tree. Strings were not popping out on this one. However even with Staggered tuners, which this one has, there just isn't enough break angle behind the nut on a fender style, straight headstock, with 6 on a side tuners, so I installed one on the E & B strings. Radius on these is compound. 9.5 to 12. Great for chording down low and soloing up top🙂 Neck is a slim C shape. Fretboard does not have rolled Edges. They are smooth and not square, but not rolled over like on some guitars I've seen. Neck is not sprayed with a satin finish or a thick poly finish which I hate. These necks are Roasted. Not too slippery and definitely not Sticky! Frets are SS yes, super smooth, highly polished, feel like you're bending on glass and they are medium Jumbo. Sorry no Jazz chords here. I'm not good enough for that😕 Cheers, J-Man
Well, maybe whoever bought one wanted to see if a tele style guitar was for them? And not spend the money.? But they could go to a GC for that.. I know I became interested in P-90s, so, the West Creek d/c caught my eye. It's fantastic for the money, and now, I really like P-90s. A solid buy.
This is a very informative video for those who are planning on buying a guitar full stop. In my country, namely England UK, if you are competent enough to be able to suss out the neck and fingerboard on the instrument, if you try to use the technique demonstrated here, you will NOT be welcome in most Music Stores on this island. Trust me, I've been doing it for fifty years. Only the last few guitars I've bought, other than one I was given, have come up to full expectations. These include Squiers, Ibanez and the only two Gibsons I own. A 2005 Les Paul Standard, and by far the best, a 2008 Melody Maker. The neck and fretboard on that instrument are unsurpassed by any other I've owned. But hey. I only got hold of this in February, so it's taken that many years to have the confidence to know what I'm doing. As this excellent video explains, if a guitar is unplayable, it ain't worth exploring any other virtues it might have to offer. Love and safety pins, Nick the Wizard.🎸🤓
Thank you, much appreciated! In your country music stores shun you for doing your own guitar work and set ups? That's crazy man! There's nothing more satisfying than working on a guitar to make it your own! Rock on man! 😎
I don't buy expensive guitars any more. Been playing for over 60 years. I mod a lot, and can achieve a high standard from a "budget guitar" for much less than the stupid prices people pay for imaginary tone wood etc. If you set a Squier up just the same as a custom shop Fender, replacing the bad bits, logically it will play just as well, there is NO magic. The difference is in the set up. Pickups are personal preference, not "good and bad" I still pay good money for acoustics, coz it has to sound good on it's own, but a solid electric is not worth the money.
Too Funny.... I played in various bands before Air Force .. In the early 80s, I was at an Air Force rec center where there was an individual trying hard to enjoy an old beat up copy of a Fender strat through a Silver face Amp ... Out of tune and cracking sounded amp ... Well, there was this tall slinky guy from Tennessee sitting at the table as I. He got up, went up on stage and asked the guy if he could see the strat... He fussed with the tuning , and then he he started to play like no tomorrow... 😅 When he returned to the table, I told him that I didn't know he played guitar... He replied " I'm from Nashville Tennessee where everyone plays some type of instrument .. I told him that I play guitar too... He replied " I know, you're not Good at playing "!!! 😢😢 OMG, the entire table busted out laughing including me 😅😅😅😅 Never forgot that moment !!!
Nice 🎸 thankyou sounds great 🎸 playing fantastic 🎸you sirtinley can make it talk 🎸🤘🏼clean sound. I know what's wrong he returned it to pay his power bill 😂😂😂 it's how you play it🎸🤘🏼 thankyou for sharing Awesome jam 🎸🤘🏼. From new Zealand 🌏
Loverboy, instead of Bryan Adams, eh? people returned it because it's not HH, jk Nice playing. We as new or expert players should learn our own modding and embellishments. It's like customizing your bike or surfboard or anything else you gear up to do. At least that's how I approach it.
If they are made in China that would definitely be an issue for me. Fender have swapped their manufacture of single cut Gretsch G5420T electromatic series to China from Taiwan. I would of brought one but not now! They look great but not everything that sparkles is gold! No better than firewood in my book. Nothing made in China is of any quality. All the suppliers on Amazon have twigged onto this and only show stock pictures now so you can't see a Serial No on the back of the headstock, its just blank! You don't even know if its a counterfeit guitar and as we all know the Chinese love their counterfeits!....Taiwan was TW now they start with a CY. It really should start with C.R.A.P! lol
I don't agree... My wife is Chinese and she is absolutely fantastic. 😍 There are some crappy Chinese guitars just like there are crappy American ones too! They are wood and metal. And these Musis are exceptionally well put together!
J-Man, we're probably about the same age. After decades of teaching guitar in music stores, thousands of gigs, guitar shows, etc, etc, I can tell you that people return *GREAT* guitars for seriously dumb reasons. They often keep crap guitars for seriously dumb reasons. You will *never* discern the reason these people returned killer guitars. I know that I've profited greatly from buying great guitars that foolish people returned, passing the savings on to me! So what was the brand of that first guitar? I love cheap guitars. Like Jack Pearson and other pros, I've discovered the joys of cheap guitars that are *GREAT* I have several pro level playing instruments that were stupid cheap which others ditched.
Yup I talked about that at the end of part 2 of this series... This guitar is a M-Musi Virgo Classic T. I have 3 of them and they are all superb for their price point... Crazy that these can be spec-ed out how they are and still so inexpensive😃
The guitar sounds amazing, and your playing is outstanding and inspiring. I will definitely be hopping on to Amazon to see what I can snaffle ! I subscribed, too ! Thank you for the upload ! 🤗😊❤️🖖✌️
Great post and playing. Check out the Fireflys at Guitars Garden and buy new even cheaper. Possibly they tried it out and it just wasn't for them....or like others said they saw it reviewed and thought they would magically sound like the reviewer without actually having the skill. I picked up a Firefly strat on sale with a flamed Canada roasted maple neck, locking tuners, bone nut, rosewood fretboard, stainless steel ball end frets, Alnico V pickups and a korean made bridge for $169 plus $27 shipping. The finish is flawless and it didn't need a setup. Sometimes you get a lemon, but lately these Chinese knock offs have been great. I'm not a professional musician or a gear snob so I can't justify paying up to 10 times more for a guitar that isn't 10 times better just because of the name or where it was made. If the big names want my business they need to stop their ridiculous price gouging. I know they can't compete with the lower labor costs and possibly the materials cost the Chinese have, but they could do much better on their prices if not for greed. When the Chinese step up their quality control the big names will really be in a bind.
Wow. Thank you for an extremely thorough and informative review. And you play amazingly well! You are one of the best reviewers IMO, and you are an honest and genuine person. Thanks again.
It's because that owner didn't know much about squire sound . Was he attracted To the color ?? The price?? Self medicated ?? Probably needed the money For something else, like a phone. Clothes Or asking her parents for money
I really appreciate this video. I have never purchased an Amazon return but may try that now. I have always wanted a Tele with comfort carves and this will be my first. I watched your videos on the Musi’s with the vibrato arm. They seem very nice but the sound of this one with the single could is hard to beat. Thanks again.
Hey Thanks John? The Musis with the trem are the Virgo Fusions, more of a rock designed tele style whereas these are the Virgo Classics. A more traditional take but with modern features! I like them both hahaha!
@j-man9457 Hey I'm not sure what part of Canada you're in but I'm out here in British Columbia and these guitars are not showing up as available for delivery here. I wonder if they're only available on the East Coast or the middle of the country?
@@Joe-mz6dc I'm from PEI. They are out of stock. Musi is currently moving to a new facility and will resume production along with new models early this summer I am told ...
It's insane, whatever that guitar costs I can't help but wonder what people are wanting for their money. Are they just spoilt? Are they expecting it to sound the way you make it sound without years of playing? They return it because they can surely, meanwhile instrument making in the west become less viable for any luthier, we send oodles of our hard earned money to communist nations next thing you know in the blink of an eye we're living in Rush 2112.. Strange days.
@@williammackay9201 my expensive are all hands on luthier built models that don't exist haha Nothing against brand name guitars but here in Canada the prices are ridiculous. You no longer get what you pay for😞
So unfortunately only 8 days since you posted this video, these M Musi guitars are listed as “currently unavailable” on Amazon. And it says that they are not sure when or if they’ll become available again. You’re a great guitar player, I subscribed immediately after you started playing and I heard that you can really play well. I had just watched a bunch of other TH-cam demos of pedals by others where the playing was average so it was refreshing to find your channel. I do lots of country gigs so I appreciate the chicken pickin style you’re demonstrating in this video. What amp and pedals did you use in this demo?
Hey thank man... I'm just an ok player. Not knowledgable theory wise just self thought, but having lots of fun! Yeah Musi is completely out of stock here on Canada and rumours are that they are moving to a new production facility... New stock should be out in a few weeks I hope! 😁 Here is a video I made very recently of a simple pedal board I put together. This is the board I'm using in this video! th-cam.com/video/5rsEVmLAC3c/w-d-xo.htmlsi=sAn0rm_gm8GvR0d5
I bought a MANNIX guitar which even my very musical neighbour couldn't get to tune so the company sent me another (keep the old one they said) the second one arrived broken in two snapped right at the neck/body so probably rough handling by couriers, I was told to keep both and got my money back! So I won't be buying any more of those again.
That first guitar the Musi Virgo looks gorgeous out of the box, the cheap alnico 5 neck pickup is excellent as is the Wilkinson bridge perfect guitar made to perfection by Cort, how much was it ? $600?
If you can already play, you can make it work. If you're a beginner, the low end guitar is where you learn how to make it work. Some of the bargain guitars are pretty darn good. Some, like a 3/4 size bass I bought for $125 have fish hooks and razor blades for fret ends and rattle like a tin can with marbles in it.
Finally a channel where the host can actually play a guitar
Wow thanks man! There are many amazing players on TH-cam, and I am not one of them hahaha, but I appreciate the comment!☺️
Holy chicken picken flickin damn that’s good. Totally made me want to become more flexible and creative enough to pull off lead licks like that
But how much did they cost being they were returns?
@@thoott3952 what? Really? Wow thanks man! You're too kind!
@@thoott3952 got this one for $300 CAD to my door!
It was probably returned because the wife said "no more guitars".
Hahahaha strong possibility lol!
😂😂 yep!
That's why I'm single.
@@kellyswoodyard hahaha!
You gotta know how to work this, then your response is:
"OK we'll go for more wives‼️"
Distracted from the point of the video because, holy f#%k, man, you can really play. Amazing.
What? Really? Thanks man, you're too kind. Much appreciated!
@@budmcnew7763 exactly hahaha!
@@budmcnew7763 Aw, you’re sweet. It’s awesome when someone takes time out of their day to insult and demean someone for no logical reason. Sorry your mom didn’t love you enough.
@@budmcnew7763 So you’re sharing information everyone already knows and think that adds to the conversation? Still a backhanded compliment, dude. Your awesomeness never ends. Thanks for clarifying?
@@budmcnew7763 "Like a million others" There's not a million others....nice try.
I have a feeling every guitar you pick-up is a keeper-tone is in the hands, your hands. great vid!
too kind. Thanks man! 😊
Im not trying to be a jerk, here. I just want people with less experience to not spend big money on "uber gear" before they hear good suggestions.
A guitar set-up by someone that's a Pro is mandatory or it will just screw with you. They can get things to stay in tune that you want to kill... that guy should be your best friend. : )
You will never get a good tone without enough practice to understand how to play things so you (and other folks, by extension) like how it sounds and be able to sustain it for very long. There's no gear cure that gets around it, just like the earth isnt flat. Billions of People believe in silly myths, what can i say? Its not my fault, just I really want guitarists to not get caught up in myths.
There are two things that are scientifically proven to affect the tone that is coming out of the amp. Everything else doesn't to much of a degree, beyond subjective feelings and experiments that are not well Controlled. The first is the speakers. If they are bunk or they aren't for the style of music you want to be playing... you wont like the experience and thats not going to help you get motivated to get the Hours. Find out what speakers the guitar players you want to learn the songs by have (on that specific song) and you're most of the way. In hard rock you're probably gonna want celestions, blues you want jensens. Beyond that I dont have that much first hand experience. You can get there with modeling software easily if you start there, but some speakers just don't work for some stuff. i can tell u fender speakers are never gonna make you happy if you want to play punk and metal. If you're playing extreme metal you need those speakers. The second thing is that non completely sealed finishes vs completely sealed finishes affects it. If it's sealed, then tonewood, blah, blah, whatever... doesn't matter. Just play ELECTRIC, it's less complicated. Everyone's got digital amps out that simulate all the effects and do it for electric and acoustic. some even do bass, too. I liked my old line 6 stuff, but i love my I can't even say which brand, publically cuz there is a legit cult (meaning, they ARE worth following and we do cuz we know but a LOT of the appeal is that the prices always stayed low. lol) that has followed them since early 70s. Every time someone tries to sell something, the price just goes nuclear
@@juicicles5881 very detailed comment. Thanks for sharing your time and knowledge 😁
You're welcome. I dont want anyone else getting caught up in cults.
even though that company deserves followers. they do everything from big, metal tube amps to little blues combos and great bass amps. their new digital amps kick ass. they made better strats than fender in the 80s and 90s and tons of other good and cheap basses and guitars in the US.
@@juicicles5881 cool man! 🤘
Good to know!
They returned them because they are wannabes that bought a cheap guitar and when they attempted to play and didn't master it in the first 30 seconds and their tender fingers got sore they quit and said I can't do it. Happens all the time. They like the idea of being a musician or guitarist but they don't want to put the work in and/or have no natural abilities.
Yup it's quite possible... I run into that very same thing in my fitness classes. Everyone likes the idea of being fit, but when it comes to putting in the work, it's a different story hahaha...
Out of my 24 guitar's . I bought 10 of them from Amazon. 1 of which was returned for a exchange because of electrical problems . So even though you have a valid point . It's not the only reason 😎👍✌️
@@garyshields3551 yup I hear ya... Everybody has their reason and it's all perspective. For some electrical issues or I level frets would be a deal breaker, but for me, I would fix it or address it and upgrade the electronics... But when I get a budget guitar like this one that needs nothing and is pretty much gig ready out of the box, I can't help but be 😁👍
Start with an insult nothing else needs to be said.
@@j-man9457
The biggest reason, is that Amazon just allows easy returns, and they just try another one, exchanging them over and over.
People do this with pedals too.
Not everybody buys "budget" guitars on the premise that "I need to work everything". Not everybody can do it. Not everybody WANTS to do it. We "moders" on the other hand, LOVE to buy budget and build GREAT! When one comes that is beautiful and near perfect, that makes them an awesome deal! I always expect a basic basket case to mod, and have NEVER received a complpete basket case. Even when I buy name brands...they come apart to make them "mine".
Yeah for sure! But exactly my point... Those who want a budget guitar that they don't have to mod, are not gonna find anything stacked like this thing! Not here in Canada anyway!
@@j-man9457
I think new Les Pauls, are like buying a car, in Australia. 😄
Just thinking about Jeff Beck and his struggle to sting. What ever to a length of wood , what a beautiful contrast to the idiots that returned those really nice instruments,
@@CorbCorbin hahahaha now that's funny!
@@j-man9457 David Gilmours black Strat is a Partscaster that he modded every thing on. He once said that yeah I can buy any guitar I want, but to make it mine I have to set it up to fit me. I always liked that about him. I haunted pawn shops since the 70s for bits. pots, push pulls, switches bridges even hard tail string through bodies and quartersawn necks.
They returned it because they couldn't play it like srv in a couple of weeks
Hahaha! I've been playing for 30 years and I can't even dream of playing like SRV lol! Besides only SRV plays like SRV! Hahaha
You mean, that's not a valid reason for returning a guitar? Damn! I guess I'll have to keep my Harley Benton after all.
@@lawman3966 hahaha!
I bought an IYV ipf-300 last year, and it was reduced because of a so-called blemish. I found the blemish and it rubbed right off.
Only issue I had was the neck thickness, which I fixed with my shinto file and mahogany nitro from Oxford.
That guitar sounds fine to me.
Cool! Blemishes that wipe off are the best ones! And good on you for thining that neck. Most people would not attempt something like that!
My IYV got returned because the wood inside the body looked light a chainsaw carved it. I got a replacement which was way better but you have to question the glue joints and construction on the rest of the guitar. I own 30 guitars so I wasn't expecting perfection but the reviews are full of crap. The Glarry Telecaster was junk. Saddles, pickup and the frets raised. The gave me a partial refund and I did the work but it's not worth the low price they sell for. The Grote 335 was nearly perfect out of the box.
@@picker63028 ahhh thanks for the info man! Yeah good reason to return. Yeah I have had no luck with Groove, Jet, Michael Kelly, Eart... They all needed major work out of the box. You just never know🥴
Good job. I've had my eyes on those Iyv for a while now. Nice guitars.
I need to learn some of those country licks. Damn.
Buck Owens and the Buckaroos "Live in Japan". All ya need!
Fantastic to see a Demo where the guy can Play !! 🙂🙂🙂
Ahhh Jeezzzz thanks man! Lots of great players out there demoing guitars that are way out of my league... I'm just happy to contribute!
Thanks for stopping by and commenting! 🙂
@@j-man9457 check out Guthrie Trapp. 🙂
Most budget guitars are returned because they were gifts for non-players who didn’t use them.
True true.or found out it really does take practice to play and that theres no guitar fairy that makes you a rock star overnight. Regardless of how many teeth you put under your pillow.
That applies to any instrument. The problem is us pro's (bone player here) or even semi pro's and good amateurs make it look easy because we've put thousands of hours of hard work in. People get put off when something isn't easy.....
@@ScratchySlide I was guitar center buying some strings a while back. And there was some kid maybe 12 or so with his mom and a guitar. I could overhear them talk. I guess mom and dad bought him a guitar found out you have to practice or it doesnt work. I couldnt help the temptation. I turned around and looked at them both and said, " What, you mean you thought you just gonna wake up one morning a rockstar"? His mom looking like she could use some sideline encouragement right away says, "Yep. Thats exactly what he thought". I told him its there, but theres three things to consider. You have to practice like you want it, your luck better shine as well. And most importantly. Is that the life you really want? I'll be homest with you. I dont think you do. Not that you cant. Its what you haven't seen yet. And if you're not willing to practice without being told, its already too late. You haven't sold the guitar yet, but you probably would be happier with an X box. He said," well what about you?" "I chased a dream that never happened. By the time I realized it, I was hooked on music and older than dirt. I didn't really want the fame. The moneys cool, but Im a one girl kinda guy. But nothing, NOTHING is better than playing a mean solo, even if nobodys there. Its not only a sense of accomplishment, but Knowing that came from you makes all the daily hours of practice worth it." Are you sure you dont wanna tell the guy you want the intonation adjusted, or you give up?" I seriously played the car sales routine beautifully. But I saw his and mom walk out to the car empty-handed. Maybe he did tell the guy he wanted it adjusted, but I doubt it.
I did ask him before I left if he recorded any of his playing . He said no. Too bad
Because everytime you play, you get better
But you wont notice it because its gradual. Most people quit because the think theyve made no progress. Thats usually not true. Record yourself so everytime you feel you're not getting anywhere, pull out that recording and get ready to feel good again.
@@ScratchySlide But you write about people you never even saw. That is hard! How did you learn that? You'd say you stopped doing that, because it's not easy? What is going on, here? Is it easy, to blame others for being lazy? It is, isn't it? Is it?
@@voornaam3191 You okay....?
Old guitars sometimes have special colorization as neck wood ages.
The tele was returned because it didn't sound like a fifties tele.
But this is not a 50s tele it's a 2024 tele 😃
Uh, how many people have any idea what an early tele actually sounds like?? I own a 68 I've had since 74 and I can watch a thousand channels on TH-cam with people telling anyone who will listen that just about any guitar made today is better than a Fender or that "some guitar" sounds just like a tele or a strat. (And that's through your TV speakers, sigh). Go figure...because IMHO it goes well beyond simple sound...the old necks were unique as were the varnish and frets. But what do I know, eh?
@@landofahhs_1 yeah man! No clue. I was born in 71 didn't start playing till 88. I've played Teles most of my life. Mostly 90s and up. I'll tell you with certainty that these Musis are every bit as good stock, as any tele that I've modded or upgraded over the years... Now when it comes to a 68, I'd say hell yeah! Would love to have one! Enjoy it and keep rockin!
@@landofahhs_1 ,
Totally agree.
Sometimes people love the particular sound of an old guitar's electronics caused by wire rot.
The wire then fails completely and is replaced with new wire and sounds different.
Maybe a resistor or capacitor wired in might recreate the tone, not that I'm an expert.
@@j-man9457 There was a 60s 70sand the new player series I think is a 12 inch radius neck with the modern truss rod and 6 rattle saddles with 5 barrels instead of 3. Some don’t have strings through the body. I bet a dime it’s a 60s Vintera 2 with the thin neck. My 50s has the ball bat U neck that could have been why., I can’t play a thin neck.
I’m looking at a similar issue.
I want a Gretsch with a Bigsby, but even in the U.S. made ones, they don’t have the roll bar, that keeps a guitar w/Bigsby in tune. It’s another few hundred dollars, to buy and have installed.
There are other things in the affordable series of Gretsch w/Bigsby Indonesian, China or Korean made line, that also need work.
I ended up looking at used ones, because most who kept them, had the Bigsby fixed, got better tuners and other upgrades, and they’re sold for not much more than a new one, that may or may not need $400+ in upgrades.
Buying used from someone that knows their stuff is always a good deal and as you said, more than likely most issues have already been fixed or upgraded!
Casually shreds the crap out of an Amazon guitar. Subscribed. Insane skills.
Hahaha thanks man!
It probably didn't sound like when you played it either. Wow. After watching this I chucked all my guitars in the bin and am .lookin at drum kits
Hahaha now that's funny!
Hope your dumpster is big enough for t kit too. 🤧
@@woody4269 hahaha no instrument deserves a dumpster. Play that thing and enjoy! 😁
@j-man9457 totally agree J man! Started drumming 3 yrs ago. Watching 4 yolds drumming isn't good for my health. Now bass for 2 weeks...t same. Loving t journey 🤙
Hey man. I can honestly say, both West Creek guitars I got from you, the 333 and the LP Junior style, both play and feel great. The M Musi plays awesome, and I keep it next to my desk all the time. It has become my "goto" guitar to grab when I want to work something out etc... the only issue I had (and you know because I popped in to your gig one night to grab a string tree from you) was the lack of break angle on the B and E strings. I used the M Musi at a country rehearsal, tuned to standard 440, and had zero issues. It sounded and played great! But that weekend, I used it at a gig, where we played everything from country to SRV, and we tune a 1/2 step down. With that reduction in string tension, it made the difference, and the fact that I am always playing open strings, the E and B strings kept popping out on me. The string tree fixed it 100%. They should have one installed on all their guitars out of the box. But for the price and the quality you get, I will gladly install my own any day. I might have to chat with you on that white Tele style... I might have to grab that one too. lol. Cheers Buddy!
Thanks Danny! If these guitars are good enough for a player of your caliber, that's all I need to know! You da man!
many of those budget friendly guitars in my opinion are half baked.. Many need work...or have to be reworked... those budget companies save money, because they are half baked , the companies that make them expect us to finish the job for them... meaning we gotta fiddle with them . tighten a screw here, adjust here, change this, reset this.. I noticed the same treatment with budget bikes I have to fine tune them..
Yeah I hear you but that's where these are different. These are gig ready after a set up. All guitars need set ups... Yes even Fenders 😲
Definitely. They may have positives in terms of build at times. Some people get lucky with a beautiful build and decent playability but some get bad builds and ruins it all. Shotty strings or fretwork or whatever
@@dudeonthemoon3290 yup every guitar is subject to a lemon from time to time. But that is not my experience with Snow White.... Yes I named it! Haha!
Dude can pick! And I just can’t get over how good that guitar sounds!
Thanks man! Yup for an out of the box axe, it's very impressive! 😁
Great playing!
That Musi has SS frets, a compound radius neck, and a bone nut, and locking tuners. Amazon ran out of them! That headstock is cut deeper to eliminate string trees! Nice playing!
Hey thanks and yes the guitar info is bang on... Don't forget the oversize strap buttons, compensated brass saddles, puretone jack, shielded cavities, full size pots and american blade switch, cloth wire pickups, roasted neck contoured heel and comfort cuts, and a perfect weight of 7.4lbs!😉
My guess is that the return didnt have anything to do with the actual guitar. Like they ordered a different color and got sent a white one so they returned it.
Yup could possibly be🤔
Bingo! Happens all the time in mail-order.
I don't understand why it would be returned, unless the buyer thought it should sound like you when they play it. I would not return it myself, even though I'm not a telly fan. I just wouldn't have bought it in the first place. It would have been my loss. It sounded good to me.
@@randywollin5732 haha thanks! Not sure if it's the playing thing 😊 but yes very good guitar! We'll never know why someone would buy this and return it...🤔
I bought a Musi tele for my daughters 15th bday. I looked good but lots of real quality issues that woulda cost money to fix. Hated to return a gift but we had no choice, unplayable. Guessing they don't resale all returns.
Wow really? I have yet to see a bad one... But that would warrant a return for sure I mean an unplayable guitar? That's a return for sure! But this one is totally playable like awesome playable... Can't figure what you'd buy for the same coin that would come close to this particular one???
Elaborate
@@j-man9457he gave no details just a blanket statement and who knows what his expertise is to claim quality.
Quit putting yourself down for your playing and I want that guitar. There is a list of reasons why somebody would send it back. Some snob buddy bugged them because it wasn't an Fen' . It doesn't have the lipstick neck pickup. They don't like the locking tuners. They used a cheap and S#!Ty chord that was likely defective. They had a low quality amp and this beautiful guitar didn't make it sound like a million bucks. They think they prefer heavier and/or lighter strings. They are stupid and they just ordered it for laughs. They got it, a buddy heard about it and flogged one they were trying to get rid of. They wanted a more antiqued white. Yes, the "high" action could have been it. It doesn't have all those crunches and klicks the Fends' on the wall have so they think there is something wrong with it. Maybe they didn't like that sexy cutout on the head or thought it was broken. They saw it and decided they didn't like the chome, preferring black. The sound was too clean. Daaa! It didn't come with a cheap and S#!Ty chord. I think that is enough for now.
Hahahaha and the list goes on! You're right, who knows???
I love all guitars!!!!!!
I feel exactly the same way.
It’s like beer. I like all beer but like some beer way more than others.
I bought a Firefly that was called out for having microphonic pickups. I got it fully expecting to swap the pickups. But they weren't putting microphonic pickups anymore. $225 for a beautiful Les Paul copy in perfect condition. No work necessary. I paid more for the case to protect it than for the guitar.
Amen to that, did the same on a FFLP, it's fully awesome as is and wicked good overdriven.
Nice man. Nice purchase. Enjoy!
Amazon Customers did return these Guitars because this J-MAN is such a Great Guitarist that convinced them that they should Quit and Retire from ever attempting to become a Guitar like Him!
My FFLP needed fretwork. Some were popping out. Now, it plays fantastic. The tones are amazing. I run it through three early '70s Ampeg V series amps. Golden tones, unmatched.
@@grubbetuchus nice set up man! Rock on 😁!
I’ve looked everywhere and I can’t find one. I’m in Ontario Canada. Anybody find one?
Amazon is currently out of stock😕
Maybe, just maybe, they didn't bond with the guitar. It just didn't "speak" to them. That's not to say the guitar isn't technically fine. It just left the previous owner wanting for something else.
Yup for sure a possibility! 😁
Exactly
I've never bonded with Tele's either. I prefer Les Paul's or SG's.
they probably used it for a tiktok video that didn't do any movement...
I've been wanting a white tele and strat style ...These are killer.
Yeah but apparently not killer enough for people to keep hahaha. No clue why this one was returned. It is awesome right out of the box! 😁
@j-man9457 I'm sure it was probably someone buying reviewing returning or maybe a drunk purchase hahahah
They return the guitar that are made in china bcoz theyre spying on people in the US 😂😂😂😂😂
Haven't heard that one before haha!
Man, if you're wearing a jacket because you're cold, you might think about all that ventilation down South that you're 'exposing yourself' to!
Hahaha!
Just How do you buy a returned guitar from Amazon? I tried various searches but came up with nothing. What am I doing wrong? Very good video btw, subscribed!
Ive just had my fingers burned basically highlighting this point. Seems the video was some kind of hypothetical situation for the purpose of talking about the guitars? Anyway - Who is the viewer to suggest a presentation could be in any way misleading
Thanks man... It's not easy, it's just timing... When you click on a thumbnail of a guitar then the ad and info open up, sometimes if you're lucky you'll see written below the price listing something like “save with used like new“ and if you click on that link, it will give you an option to buy an open box/returned model. But those are not always in the inventory....
I took a chance on one Westcreek guitar. It was awful. I got rid of it, and for next to nothing. And that was after spending a couple hours trying to set it up, and dialing it in. I finally got it to where it would (basically) play. And that's about it. It was terrible. And I am a budget-guitar lover. Bought bunches of them in general, and bunches of them off of The Zon. And I've been pretty lucky. But every once in a while, you're going to strike out if you play the game. I don't buy the M Musi Guitars. But it looks like they are a big step up from some of the others. But you also pay more for them. So they should be pretty good. My 2 cents.
100% buddy... They are more money and yes they are a quite the step up as far as hardware electronics and features go....
Surprised with your Westcreek experience. I have played, set up and reviewed, every model they make and multiples of each models... Yes some require more set up work than others but all of them have been super easy to dial in with superb fit and finish. You obviously received one slapped together at quitting time on a Friday hahaha!
Loved that segment that you started playing at the start ...
seemed like it was kind of bluesy ... old 50's rock ish .... and some mix of honky tonk ALL mixed in .
Then you caught my attention again with the music of the boy from B.C.
Now that sounded just like B himself .
Thanks man! Glad I didn't butcher it to the point that it was unrecognisable lol! Thanks for commenting!
I’ve never jumped down the westcreek rabbit hole, but everything I have seen just casually on TH-cam has been positive
I've had everyone of their models and demoed everyone. After a set up they are spot on! Very consistent QC on their models!
Next…..l
I bought their "333" in Pebble blue ( a Gibson 335 inPelham Blue knock off). It looks a lot like the Dave Grohl model, but imho, it's better looking (it even has F holes instead of that weird diamond thingy).
Out of the box the neck was seriously back bowed, but everything else was great. A simple adjustment of the truss rod with the (included) hex key, and I was good to go.
Disclaimer: I'm no expert, so my "good to go" might be dog poop to someone that knows anything about guitars, but at any rate, I have NO regrets about spending 200 bucks for it.
@@LuckyFlesh nice man!
I bought the same one a while back... The Blue 333 and yes it rocks! Everyone sets them up differently to suit their playing style. That's why every and any guitar you buy, brand name or budget, will require some kind of set-up 😉
J-MAN, good to see you again! @9:00 and on - whoa! You are sounding fabulous. I like that guitar, the headstock reminds me of if Fender and Parker had offspring. I still have my EART telecaster, it shares a lot of similar features. I replaced the repulsive green pickguard ( on a BLUE guitar) with a cream pearloid one. Probably keep it forever. Take care.
Jeepers man! Yeah I remember you! Glad all is well and you're still playing! You're right about the Parker fender thing! Hahaha
Take care as well and keep rockin'!
Sounded like some Tommy Tutone licks 👍🏻
Looks & sounds good to me. Go Figure!
Their Los’s is your gain!
Thanks for the video!
Thank you! Nah... Just my licks and I don't know many hahaha
Hang on.... You made all those judgements about why people returned these guitars before you even looked at the guitars???? Like you presumed they were stupid before you even checked the guitar? Thats mental and it all sucks of something disingenuous. You know full well if neck was broken it would be returned. To base a video on why people are returning guitars to Amazon before you even look at why - is just pure crazy and makes no sense whatsoever.
And like another person said - great playing 😊 👍
Woah easy there captain negative! I own multiple Musis and WestCreek guitars. Just look at my video list before making Blunt assumptions. I also have been buying guitars and and playing guitars for over 35 years. I have never received a Musi or WestCreek that was so bad that it needed to be returned. In fact I have sold quite a few of these from my own collection so I could buy more of them and every single person who bought one was super impressed with them. So no, unlike you, I wasn't calling anyone stupid. My title was simply to see if I could come up with a physical, structural or performance related reason as to why someone who ordered a guitar like this would end up returning it. Then the goal was, if I did find an obvious issue, to try and fix it as to help others fix similar issues on their guitars... These guitars are fantastic period. Anyone who says otherwise has just been conditioned to believe if it doesn't say Fender or Gibson on the head stock that it's no good. It's fine but I don't think that. And I've played enough Teles in my day to know a good one when I see one.
Obviously had I opened the box and the headstock or neck was broken, it would of made for a short video! “Oh look guys, the neck is broken, returning it was a good choice!“ the end!
But I was going on the assumption that this guitar was as good as the ones I currently own and have reviews in past videos... My assumption was right! It is. It's actually better than mine. Mine needed more work than this one to set up. I know without a doubt that whoever returned it will not find a better spec-ed guitar for under 500$. Not here in Canada anyways!!
I explain all of this in part to during my conclusion at the end. So before belittling and making accusations towards people who's values and intentions you know nothing about, do your research, watch a few videos and then comment! Jeepers!
@@j-man9457 I am sorry - Its crazy to say all this like I am being mean. Your video had a title - and the way in which the video ran implied that peope were sending guitars back to Amazon for no reason. If you think about it - the video is entirely pointless. LITERALLY pointless. If the video had been " I love these guitars and here is why" - Well that would make total sense - but to say " Why are people returning them to Amazon?". One question I would ask is "How do you know they were returned to Amazon?". What was the process for you knowing they had been returned and surely if they had been returned and there was a process to inform you of the return - you would have been notified of why they had been returned and being sold on to you. None of this is explained in the video and just seems really odd. I have used Amazon for years and have no awareness of a service they offer selling returned goods - but maybe they do? If they do then it would be useful to know -and useful to tell the viewer. If there is no such service then how did you know they were returned? Reading your reply, it seems that they werent in fact returned at all and the title was some kind of doorway into talking about them? Look - Its all very odd and I am just being honest. I watched the video with genuine interest because the title suggested to me I was going to find out why people were returning a guitar - Its in my line of work - so its interesting. However you want to reply in the sensitive way you have done - I am the viewer of the video - for whom its intended - and you have created a video with a misleading title (for all the best intentions I am sure) - in order to do whatever it is you do - and you have implied people return guitars for no good reason - I am pretty sure thats what you were implying - If I watch it back. Considering it APPEARS you are now saying they werent returned guitars and the whole situation is hyperthetical then its crazy you would be talking about why people return guitars unnecessarily as if you are looking for problems with the guitar. For what its worth, I literally cannot find any reference to the model - name - anything - price? If you love them and want to promote how great they are - I am personally still completely oblivious to what the guitars are. I am not a negative person - I merely gave feedback on the basis that I felt the title was misleading - and you have explained in essence that it was. So I will leave you to it and sorry to have upset you.
@@RichardsGuitarshop sorry man I may have misunderstood your intention... I can't tell you how the whole return process works as I don't know... But this guitars came up as “try used like new“ below the listing after you click on the thumbnail... I have bought tons of stuff on Amazon that way in the past. You save money but it's a gamble as you don’t know what you're getting. The box was beat up and retaped... Pretty obvious it was used. I save 150$ish, the pickguard still has plastic on it but it is covered in pick / nail scratches so this thing was obviously played and the inside packaging was torn. I may not be as good a guitar tech as you but I can certainly tell the difference between a used and new guitar. I own a few hahaha
This thing was definitely returned. When it landed, we were going through funeral prep for my mother in law's passing... Guitar sat in the box in my basement for the last 3 weeks. I told my wife, I wonder why someone would return this? I have several musis. They are all fantastic. Keepers for sure... So curious, I titled my video why do people return these...... You know the rest. I seriously don't know what you could buy or build for this price even new, that would be as good! So I wanted to see if there was a serious problem with it and there absolutely isn't! So the reason for the return is a personal one and not a structural one.... Still not 100% percent sure why you care.... As a luthier why are you watching videos on Amazon guitars anyway?,,😉
It's not uncommon that you haven't heard of these as to my knowledge they have only been in North America for the last year and a half.
Since this video, I can't find a single Musi on Amazon. I'm in Canada so Amazon.ca... not sure where you're from... I have been checking amazon for the last 2 days and they are gone. I assume they are out of stock but who knows maybe they had a falling out with Amazon or they went out of business....
Here in Canada a brand new Classic T style is 485! I can't even buy a Roasted maple neck with Stainless Steel frets and a compound radius for that here let alone a complete guitar!
I hope they haven't closed up shop!!! I have emailed amazon to see if I can get answers. If I do, I'll post a video on that too and I'm sure some people will get upset over it but oh well! The title sorry to say, is not directed towards you... The people who follow my channel, god bless em, know I love these guitars, they know I have every model Musi makes and they understand my title as they know I would never return one of these, as they ARE that good!
That's it man don't read more into it! I'm not on here to make money or to sell you gear. If you get curious and buy something I shared so be it. Only the manufacturers and Amazon make money on it, not me hahaha.
Not all of my reviews are good. Check my Jet guitar series or the budget groove guitar review I did. I'm always looking for something that will be better out of the box than these Musis but I haven't come across anything yet that comes close dollar for dollar.
Anyway,
You take care, I wish you all of the best with Richard's guitar shop, and if you think your guitars can rival these musis, send me a link, I'll buy one and review/promote it on my channel. And don't worry, I won't return it :-)
J
Hi! Glad we sorted it all out ❤. What price are the guitars - let me know the budget and I’ll let you know what I’d recommend . Sounds like you have found something you love and can recommend and it’s so rare for anyone online to be actually doing that so total kudos to you! Nice work - and sure if you give me a budget I can certainly give you my 10 cents worth of thought on it! 😊
They just were broke should not have bought it.
Yup has to be something like that🤔
Enjoyed the playing as much as the great review!
Ahhh jeeeezzz thanks man!😊
They're cheap and cheaply made. Easy really
Do you have one?
Nothing cheap about these man... Materials are great, hardware is great and electronics rival any 1000$ fender I can find on the wall at my local music store.
For less than a Squire? It's a no brainer!
Dude is on Blues Fiya yeah Thanx Bro.
No thank you!
Play some Skynyrd! Just playing.😆 That sounded awesome!! I haven’t heard of that brand. I’m going to check it out. Thank you for the video. 😎👍🏽
You cant shop a neck profile online. Ive returned or sold off 4 since 2020 bc i ordered then didnt like the neck shape when i got it.only 2 i kept were an Epi LP 60s which i knew the neck would be fat but its ok bc thats a Les Paul. And then an Aria Pro2 Jet1 w the most wonderful med C strat neck w med frets Ive played for the price.
Yup totally get ya... However in the spec list for these it does say slim C shape with 9.5 to 12 radius so for anyone reading up before they buy, they should have a pretty good idea of what it's gonna be like no?🤔
@@j-man9457 I find it hard to disagree with what you've written here, but "slim C shape with 9.5 to 12 radius" doesn't say anything about thickness nor width of the neck at different points. It also assumes the buyer is experienced.
A fraction of a millimetre over the neck width can make a significant difference to how it feels in the hands, and I think it's impossible to know if it's a good fit until you've spent some time playing it.
Whether this is why somebody bought/returned a perfectly good guitar is anyone's guess. Maybe it was an unwanted gift, or the colour of the guitar didn't quite match their decor when they opened the box 🧐. I enjoyed your video and your playing in any case mate 👍
@@parsnipfingers yup all good points for sure... I guess we'll never really know in this case 😀
Thanks for your input!
Cheers!
@@j-man9457 it's nice to have a bit of mystery left in the world. You're welcome, have a new sub 🥳
You sir.....are an AMAZING guitarist !!! Love that chicken pickin !!!
Thanks man! Just self thought and I'm pretty rough at times but man I really love those Nashville guys,they are so amazing! 😍
j-man with the legendary chops glad i stumbled upon your channel look forward to seeing more of your jamming, tremendous.
OMG thanks man! You are too kind! There are much better players on here than me and they are not hard to find!
I don't measure up, but I certainly appreciate your comment. You made my day 😊!
if you go to the shops today and you see Avril Lavigne can you say Hi for me!...Cheers...
Great, down to Earth Reviews as usual ! 👍👍
Thanks Jay ! 😊
P.S. Judging from the Pixelation on the back of the Neck, it looks like a 1/4 sawn Neck ? 🤔
Which is another Positive ! 😍
Hey thanks CC! Great to hear from you. Hope all is well! Yup you're right. This neck is 1/4 sawn!
Rock on!
I bought a returned one from Amazon that was DOA with no sound coming out. Those are easy fix. I got another return that I could not find anything wrong with it. And the last one there was a buzz on one fret. The fret needs to be dealt with, but the action was too low, so I raised it a bit, although i do like it low. All these guitars had brand new nice strings on them as people do this first.
Wow man! Nice score!
Yeah these are great guitars and super easy to work on!
Enjoy and Rock on!
nope..to this channel
I'm Glad you know what you like!
Rock on anyway!
I know why they returned it. They couldn't play it the way you can. They then settled for the $89 Aamoon that sounded just as good to them. When you go out and get a good guitar and you are just learning to play the $89 guitar just makes more sense. I personally can't play worth a dam so maybe they are in my shoes and not yours. Anyway, you continue to amae me with your talent. Watching your fret hand bounce all over the neck is astounding to me. Love your vids!
Hahaha well thanks Rainer! Very kind of you to say. But really learning on a budget guitar is fine but a poorly set up one makes the learning process longer because you are always compensating... Budget wise, I understand your point....🤔
We will probably never know why people returned these guitars. Probably these guitars are not suitable for musicians and for music. These guitars are good for athletes who run their fingers across the fretboard making random notes. Imagine some maestro choosing a violin. Do you think he will run across the fretboard like a crazy horse? That's all.
@@abzstr OMG you are absolutely right! You should run for president! Crazy horses should never play Violin! That's all!
@@j-man9457 Exactly. Drop it, it's not for you. If you wanted to say something about guitars, you'd better ask Mr. Blackmore to do it. And you'd better record videos on a sprint treadmill.
@@abzstr You're funny! Thanks for stopping by! You do what you like, I'll do what I like. That's all.
P.S. cool car on your channel. 😉
@@j-man9457 No problem. You can do whatever you want, of course. But firstly, this is a public space and no one filters people's opinions here. Secondly, it is still worth thinking about the meaning of the information being transmitted. We all understood that these guitars were returned. But why they were returned, we still do not know. And of course, then it is logical to show some meanings. Precisely meanings, and not playing on a guitar that does not break anything. But there are questions. Do these guitars sound good with a clean sound, through a powerful tube amplifier? Do these guitars have natural wood sustain, again, it is desirable to hear with a clean sound. Do these guitars hold the tuning well. What is the scale length of these guitars and are there enough neck adjustments.....well, and many other questions that would be of interest to potential owners of such guitars. It is desirable to accompany such a video with a beautiful, slow melody and the sound of the guitar revealing the potential inherent in them........simple.
@@abzstr yup you are confused because you have not followed me before. I reviewed my first Musi tele 2 years ago almost. Unbelievable value for the price... I bought this on as a return wondering why it was returned... And we will never really know the answer. I was expecting to find a flaw, a construction fault, a defect, a playability issue, but this guitar was almost perfect out of the box.... So the reason had to be something other than the guitar. For under 500$ there is nothing out there in a T-Style that comes close!
Cheers!
So how do you buy a returned guitar. Do you have to luck out in a pallet? hE DOES NOT EXPLin how he bought these two guitars.
It's just timing man... So when you're looking at a guitar or an item on Amazon, just scroll down just below the price and sometimes you'll see an option that says :"save with used like new". Click on that and you'll get an option to buy a return open box of whatever you're looking at... However Amazon's description of used like new is not always accurate just FYI!
Good luck!
Returned because of the Headstock, it’s U.G.L.Y., you ain’t got no alibi, it’s ugly, it’s ugly. The body forearm contour cut should be more of a smooth contour instead of the pronounced shape with the line showing. It sounds good and seems to have quality parts, I think it was returned because of the cosmetic appearance. WDIK, I own a James Tyler with the funky headstock that some people can’t stand but some pay used $3000 up to $10,000 new for some models.
Could be who knows! Nice score on your JT!
He returned it because….HIS WIFE SAW IT !! 😂🤣 Cheaper to send it back than get divorced over your 20th guitar that you don’t really need! Probably thought it was a great deal and she wouldn’t notice another Tele on the wall.
Hahaha I got that one alot lol! Lots of wives hate Teles I guess lol!
Jim Carpenter from Lexington Lab Band? Has to be.
60 cycle hum isn’t caused by the speaker, it’s causaed by noise in the environment from flourescents, bad grounding, etc. I think the Musi is great.
Thanks! I never get 60cycle hum with my Musis... No matter what bar we're playing in. I think they are great too! 😃
Bull. It’s caused by single coil which is why humbuckers cancel hum
@@garypenton1583 just shield everything like they do on these from factory and you're fine! 😄
Maybe it wasn't a return' maybe it's a marketing scheme' over stock' discount guitars' a way to get rid of them' sale them for less money to get people interested in their products... knowing TH-camrs will do video reviews on them to get free advertisement
Wonder how will be sold now that you've advertised for them?
Maybe you're in on it?
Without even knowing it? Lol
Hahaha nope the name of the first buyer was on the box as well lol! Oops Amazon! I pay for all the guitars, pedals amps etc... I review on my channel, and if something changes I'll let my viewers know. I love guitars especially telecaster but fenders quality has gone down over the years but their prices have tripped... These Musis are wicked good! Even better if you can get one at 40% off!
I would say pickups......hardware is sometimes pretty sketchy.... :p For a string T, I use the Reverend 3 string , on these type guitars, or 2 Fender style Ts....yeah, let's hear it for a bit...most returned instruments are gifts or the owner is not in guitar class...it sounds pretty good but I would probably swap pickups....:D
Yeah I hear ya... But keep in mind my playing is just fair, and I using a small transistor amp and a 10 inch speaker. These pups through DR-Z would sound killer I'm sure! 😄
People return low to moderate price guitars for many reasons, and not necessarily because the guitars are defective. For example, I think it's indisputable that many guitar players are extremely fussy/picky about certain things peculiar to them. And if they pick up a guitar and it doesn't immediately appeal to them for whatever picayune reason, they're done with them. Amazon lets them get away with this. And what about Aunt Susie, who buys her nephew Johnny an Amazon guitar for his 21st birthday because she heard he plays guitar - so she buys him *a* guitar, not knowing Johnny is been in several bands over the years and already has good gear for specific reasons. Johnny's probably not going to hang onto that thing just to please his aunt. So back to Amazon it goes. And so it goes. On and on. Nothing to do with the guitars themselves. Just the logistics of Amazon facilitating the return of product for basically any reason. I'm not finding fault with Amazon - they can adopt any return policy they wish. It's just the nature of many guitar players.
Yup I addressed this at the end of part 2!
7:19 Strum an open chord so we can hear it as you turn the volume and tone up and down. If they're scratchy, that's when you'll hear it.
Also for the hum, it can be generated in one or both of two ways. One is magnetic from a power transformer in equipment picked up by a single-coil pickup as you were trying to demonstrate (the closer to the transformer the louder the hum, and the guitar's angle with the sourcealso affects volume), the other is electrostatic, which you can hear with "high gain" (lotta distortion) and NOT touching the strings or any metal hardware on the guitar. If you get hum the second way, it needs the control and pickup cavities shielded.
@@TranscendentBen
Hey good info! 😀
I have 3 of these classics... I gig with them regularly.
Pots are not scratchy at all. Nice full size smooth pots.
These guitars are already shielded from the company. They come with shielding paint throughout. Also pickups have insulated cloth wire pickups.
I never get noise with any one of my M-Musi Classics... For this video, my phone (mic and camera) is literally on a stand next to my amp, and I'm an arm's length away from the amp and phone sitting on that chair... 😃
@@j-man9457 Very impressive!
I'm with the J-Man on this. Probably most guitars sound great in his hands. But, I could tell from the outset chords it has a great sound. As he said, the neck was straight. So any playability issues were going to be fixable. Odd that someone returned it. But one never knows the full story of each guitar.
Thanks... That's right we don't really know. I had the title for this video planned before I even opened the box. I was expecting to find a major flaw or playability issue but in this case the return wasn't due to the guitar being problematic out of the box... So probably a money issue, color issue, neck feel, weight or simply a curiosity issue... Who knows 🤔
Haha
Cheers!
Awesome on that guitar Bravo Sounds amazing 🎸🎸💥💥💥🎸🎸
Ahhh thanks man. Very kind of you to say... Great guitar and straight out of the box! 😁
Adapt improvise overcome You sure answered the question right nice.
Sent out for DC? (Damage control ) dont need it ! Good instruments....
Wow! Great Tele. Is it for sale? For how much? I just heard the playing part of it
It's awesome, and it's already gone... My good friend really wanted it and I already have 2 of these, I'm happy he's happy! 😄
Is that a thick C neck like baseball bat, it's what I'm looking for if it is. And maybe it hurt his hand of it is and that's why it was returned. personally, I hate thin necks and .10-gauge strings. I hate sissy setups I mean lol
Non these are more of a slim C neck with 9.5 to 12 radiused fretboards. They come stock with 10-46 but I installed 12 to 52 on a customer's Musi with no issues at all. These necks are super stable!
Who knows Probably a covid guitar and people are too lazy to learn the guitar the right way
Great video. Please put some pants on, bro… heehee
31 year Phys Ed teacher bud. What are pants? Hahaha!
@@j-man9457 breeches… pantaloons… dungarees… something… way too much old white guy leg here… heehee
@@BillyE5150 lol!
So you are saying the whacked out frets and one pickup not working was just a bad one? No thanks. I know you mean well but tried those once.
Sorry... I didn't say the frets were wacked out and both pickups are working fine... Not sure why you'd say that?🤔
There Is Nothing Wrong With That Guitar Or Your Playing! Just Sayin!
Thanks! yup guitar is fantastic... The playing well... Is a work in progress hahaha!
The real reason it was returned was becoz as you play the f'ker, it doesn't make you pull faces like your chewing a wasp! - :)
Hahahaha!
YOUR COMMENTARY IS JUST TOO INTERESTING TO IGNORE! You have a great Canadian sensibility about your playing, your analysis, snd your thought process! - Hey we play Hockey b/c we love ❤️ Hockey! Likewise playing guitar! ' I get a kick out of the Rx you get from some of the American listeners!'Rock on, Dude! Your playing is awesome! NOW I've got to go see the Edmonton Oilers Stanley Cup game against Florida! Keep up the great guitar work! Cheers!"
Thanks man! Much appreciated, and I hope your team wins!!! 🙏
I unboxed a new Musi Capricorn and returned it immediately. Neck was uncomfortable twisted.
Wow! That sucks! And that is a good reason to return a guitar. A twisted neck is a serious playability issue!
Not the case with this one... The return had to have been for a financial reason or a wife reason lol 😆
The first one I got from Amazon, would not tune, discorded, would not stay in tune, I got a squier by fender, it does a lot better,
Yeah I can see how that would turn someone off... Some Squires are very good but for me, I really like the full size pots, the blade switch, shielded cavities, roasted neck, contours, SS frets etc... all of which are not options on a Squire... Well not the ones here in PEI at our local stores anyway...
I'm glad you found a guitar you vibe with... After all, that is what matters most 😉
Watch it , might have found your number 1😊
Mine is a beautiful vintage blue. Though I bought mine new, my experience was similar to yours. I was especially impressed with the comfort carves. Also the vintage looking rope wrap around the bridge pickup. Very cool. The neck roast on mine is a bit darker than yours. The SS frets are perfect.
Reasons why someone might return a beautiful guitar like this? 1- Thought the guitar could teach them how to play. 2- A "friend" sold them on the idea of a Fender. 3- The model name. I'm cool with Virgo (that's my horoscope sign). Virgo's symbol is the Virgin. Maybe this dude thought his pals in his band would tease him. Or worse, introduce him as "ladies and gentlemen, on guitar the virgin of the group..."😂
Hahahaha never thought of that! I'm sure glad I'm not worried about what people think of me because I'd be missing out lol!
Glad you got a good one too!
Rock on!
I agree, maybe because of the break angle issue. I have a Sire T-3 Tele, also with no string trees, and the high E string pops out all the time. I would have string trees installed on it, but the guitar doesn’t sound or play anywhere near good enough to spend a dime on it. It’s a “trade-it-in-at-guitar-center-for-$100 bucks” paper weight. What is the big deal about having a string tree to begin with, so there’s no chance of that problem? Tuning stability? On a Tele? No, nobody should have to deal with strings popping out of the nut, and that problem can get much worse if the string gauge is changed from tens to nines.
Also could be the neck radius (if it’s not 9.5”). I returned (on Amazon) a fantastic sounding and superb quality Vola brand, made-in-Japan Tele-ish (forgot the model name) guitar because it had a 12” radius that I hated.
Could be the neck carve - maybe it’s too “baseball bat” feeling. That can really fatigue some people’s hands. It could be something else about the neck carve that the person didn’t like. You fail to mention some very important specs.
Is the back of the neck satin? Really fast and slippery?I HATE fast, satin necks. I’m used to, and, I like a neck with a coating on it; It’s not as fast, which is a good thing for me, and I use the back of the neck for friction so I can hold certain stretches without slipping.
Does the fingerboard have rolled edges? Are the edges “too” rolled? I don’t like the way my Sire T-3 rolled edges feel even though their rolled edges are patented and called “Edgeless”. I guess I like edges.
Could be be the stainless steel frets. I prefer nickel frets (and so does Paul Reed Smith) over stainless steel. Just a feel thing, although I would be inclined to try and deal with that, as long as they were “medium jumbo” and not “narrow-tall” (ugh) or extra-jumbo (ugh).
And last, I didn’t hear any drop dead gorgeous clean tone like one would get from a good sounding Tele in the middle position (both pickups) playing a few lush jazz chords into a blues junior or other Fender tube amp with a little delay and a touch of reverb. Doesn’t mean it doesn’t have it though, I just didn’t hear it.
@@jayaz7781 hey thanks for the detailed comment. I'm surprised about the Sire. I hear they are really good... Glad to hear from someone who has one!
This Musi did not need a string tree. Strings were not popping out on this one. However even with Staggered tuners, which this one has, there just isn't enough break angle behind the nut on a fender style, straight headstock, with 6 on a side tuners, so I installed one on the E & B strings.
Radius on these is compound. 9.5 to 12. Great for chording down low and soloing up top🙂
Neck is a slim C shape. Fretboard does not have rolled Edges. They are smooth and not square, but not rolled over like on some guitars I've seen.
Neck is not sprayed with a satin finish or a thick poly finish which I hate. These necks are Roasted. Not too slippery and definitely not Sticky!
Frets are SS yes, super smooth, highly polished, feel like you're bending on glass and they are medium Jumbo.
Sorry no Jazz chords here. I'm not good enough for that😕
Cheers,
J-Man
Well, maybe whoever bought one wanted to see if a tele style guitar was for them? And not spend the money.? But they could go to a GC for that..
I know I became interested in P-90s, so, the West Creek d/c caught my eye. It's fantastic for the money, and now, I really like P-90s. A solid buy.
@@peterpellerin1374 yup who knows! Awesome guitar for sure!
Yeah P90s are fantastic!
This is a very informative video for those who are planning on buying a guitar full stop. In my country, namely England UK, if you are competent enough to be able to suss out the neck and fingerboard on the instrument, if you try to use the technique demonstrated here, you will NOT be welcome in most Music Stores on this island. Trust me, I've been doing it for fifty years. Only the last few guitars I've bought, other than one I was given, have come up to full expectations. These include Squiers, Ibanez and the only two Gibsons I own. A 2005 Les Paul Standard, and by far the best, a 2008 Melody Maker. The neck and fretboard on that instrument are unsurpassed by any other I've owned. But hey. I only got hold of this in February, so it's taken that many years to have the confidence to know what I'm doing.
As this excellent video explains, if a guitar is unplayable, it ain't worth exploring any other virtues it might have to offer.
Love and safety pins, Nick the Wizard.🎸🤓
Thank you, much appreciated!
In your country music stores shun you for doing your own guitar work and set ups? That's crazy man! There's nothing more satisfying than working on a guitar to make it your own!
Rock on man! 😎
Frankly I love when I get a great deal on a guitar ( or any thing for that matter) just cos someone did not like it. Enjoy
@@MrYatesj1 yup it's pretty sweet!
I don't buy expensive guitars any more. Been playing for over 60 years. I mod a lot, and can achieve a high standard from a "budget guitar" for much less than the stupid prices people pay for imaginary tone wood etc. If you set a Squier up just the same as a custom shop Fender, replacing the bad bits, logically it will play just as well, there is NO magic. The difference is in the set up. Pickups are personal preference, not "good and bad"
I still pay good money for acoustics, coz it has to sound good on it's own, but a solid electric is not worth the money.
@@Oodle-ox2vf I hear ya man!
Too Funny.... I played in various bands before Air Force .. In the early 80s, I was at an Air Force rec center where there was an individual trying hard to enjoy an old beat up copy of a Fender strat through a Silver face Amp ... Out of tune and cracking sounded amp ... Well, there was this tall slinky guy from Tennessee sitting at the table as I. He got up, went up on stage and asked the guy if he could see the strat... He fussed with the tuning , and then he he started to play like no tomorrow... 😅 When he returned to the table, I told him that I didn't know he played guitar... He replied " I'm from Nashville Tennessee where everyone plays some type of instrument .. I told him that I play guitar too... He replied " I know, you're not Good at playing "!!! 😢😢 OMG, the entire table busted out laughing including me 😅😅😅😅 Never forgot that moment !!!
Hahaha great story! 🤣
Nice 🎸 thankyou sounds great 🎸 playing fantastic 🎸you sirtinley can make it talk 🎸🤘🏼clean sound. I know what's wrong he returned it to pay his power bill 😂😂😂 it's how you play it🎸🤘🏼 thankyou for sharing Awesome jam 🎸🤘🏼. From new Zealand 🌏
Wow! Thank you and thanks for checking out the video!
Loverboy, instead of Bryan Adams, eh? people returned it because it's not HH, jk Nice playing. We as new or expert players should learn our own modding and embellishments. It's like customizing your bike or surfboard or anything else you gear up to do. At least that's how I approach it.
@@Beauyuhkfer for sure!
If they are made in China that would definitely be an issue for me. Fender have swapped their manufacture of single cut Gretsch G5420T electromatic series to China from Taiwan. I would of brought one but not now!
They look great but not everything that sparkles is gold! No better than firewood in my book. Nothing made in China is of any quality. All the suppliers on Amazon have twigged onto this and only show stock pictures now so you can't see a Serial No on the back of the headstock, its just blank! You don't even know if its a counterfeit guitar and as we all know the Chinese love their counterfeits!....Taiwan was TW now they start with a CY. It really should start with C.R.A.P! lol
I don't agree... My wife is Chinese and she is absolutely fantastic. 😍 There are some crappy Chinese guitars just like there are crappy American ones too! They are wood and metal. And these Musis are exceptionally well put together!
J-Man, we're probably about the same age. After decades of teaching guitar in music stores, thousands of gigs, guitar shows, etc, etc, I can tell you that people return *GREAT* guitars for seriously dumb reasons. They often keep crap guitars for seriously dumb reasons. You will *never* discern the reason these people returned killer guitars. I know that I've profited greatly from buying great guitars that foolish people returned, passing the savings on to me!
So what was the brand of that first guitar? I love cheap guitars. Like Jack Pearson and other pros, I've discovered the joys of cheap guitars that are *GREAT* I have several pro level playing instruments that were stupid cheap which others ditched.
Yup I talked about that at the end of part 2 of this series... This guitar is a M-Musi Virgo Classic T. I have 3 of them and they are all superb for their price point... Crazy that these can be spec-ed out how they are and still so inexpensive😃
The guitar sounds amazing, and your playing is outstanding and inspiring. I will definitely be hopping on to Amazon to see what I can snaffle ! I subscribed, too ! Thank you for the upload ! 🤗😊❤️🖖✌️
@@raymondwilliams2609 thank you man! ☺️
Hot damn, dude. Your playing completely distracted me. You are an astonishing player!!! WOW!!!! I have 30+years playing as well, but I can't do that.
Ahhh thanks, but I bet you can do things that I can't do as well! We all have our strengths😀
Great post and playing. Check out the Fireflys at Guitars Garden and buy new even cheaper. Possibly they tried it out and it just wasn't for them....or like others said they saw it reviewed and thought they would magically sound like the reviewer without actually having the skill. I picked up a Firefly strat on sale with a flamed Canada roasted maple neck, locking tuners, bone nut, rosewood fretboard, stainless steel ball end frets, Alnico V pickups and a korean made bridge for $169 plus $27 shipping. The finish is flawless and it didn't need a setup. Sometimes you get a lemon, but lately these Chinese knock offs have been great. I'm not a professional musician or a gear snob so I can't justify paying up to 10 times more for a guitar that isn't 10 times better just because of the name or where it was made. If the big names want my business they need to stop their ridiculous price gouging. I know they can't compete with the lower labor costs and possibly the materials cost the Chinese have, but they could do much better on their prices if not for greed. When the Chinese step up their quality control the big names will really be in a bind.
Exactly man! I feel the same way!
I can't get firefly's here in PEI Canada... But I hear good things!
Wow. Thank you for an extremely thorough and informative review. And you play amazingly well! You are one of the best reviewers IMO, and you are an honest and genuine person. Thanks again.
@@dmbar1953 thanks man. Much appreciated! 😊
It's because that owner didn't know much about squire sound . Was he attracted
To the color ?? The price?? Self medicated ?? Probably needed the money
For something else, like a phone. Clothes
Or asking her parents for money
@@GlenAnderson-lj5bc yup no doubt something of the sort!
I really appreciate this video. I have never purchased an Amazon return but may try that now. I have always wanted a Tele with comfort carves and this will be my first. I watched your videos on the Musi’s with the vibrato arm. They seem very nice but the sound of this one with the single could is hard to beat. Thanks again.
Hey Thanks John? The Musis with the trem are the Virgo Fusions, more of a rock designed tele style whereas these are the Virgo Classics. A more traditional take but with modern features!
I like them both hahaha!
@j-man9457 Hey I'm not sure what part of Canada you're in but I'm out here in British Columbia and these guitars are not showing up as available for delivery here. I wonder if they're only available on the East Coast or the middle of the country?
@@Joe-mz6dc I'm from PEI.
They are out of stock. Musi is currently moving to a new facility and will resume production along with new models early this summer I am told ...
“Plays it like I did” 😂😂 No bro, your high level playing is not for everybody😂
Hahaha thanks man☺️
I can honestly say I've never been called or referred to as a high level player. You just brightened my day hahaha!
It's insane, whatever that guitar costs I can't help but wonder what people are wanting for their money. Are they just spoilt? Are they expecting it to sound the way you make it sound without years of playing? They return it because they can surely, meanwhile instrument making in the west become less viable for any luthier, we send oodles of our hard earned money to communist nations next thing you know in the blink of an eye we're living in Rush 2112.. Strange days.
@@williammackay9201 my expensive are all hands on luthier built models that don't exist haha
Nothing against brand name guitars but here in Canada the prices are ridiculous. You no longer get what you pay for😞
So unfortunately only 8 days since you posted this video, these M Musi guitars are listed as “currently unavailable” on Amazon. And it says that they are not sure when or if they’ll become available again. You’re a great guitar player, I subscribed immediately after you started playing and I heard that you can really play well. I had just watched a bunch of other TH-cam demos of pedals by others where the playing was average so it was refreshing to find your channel. I do lots of country gigs so I appreciate the chicken pickin style you’re demonstrating in this video. What amp and pedals did you use in this demo?
Hey thank man... I'm just an ok player. Not knowledgable theory wise just self thought, but having lots of fun!
Yeah Musi is completely out of stock here on Canada and rumours are that they are moving to a new production facility... New stock should be out in a few weeks I hope! 😁
Here is a video I made very recently of a simple pedal board I put together. This is the board I'm using in this video!
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I bought a MANNIX guitar which even my very musical neighbour couldn't get to tune so the company sent me another (keep the old one they said) the second one arrived broken in two snapped right at the neck/body so probably rough handling by couriers, I was told to keep both and got my money back! So I won't be buying any more of those again.
@@rickhicks2445 Mannix? Never heard of them... Where do you get these?
That first guitar the Musi Virgo looks gorgeous out of the box, the cheap alnico 5 neck pickup is excellent as is the Wilkinson bridge perfect guitar made to perfection by Cort, how much was it ? $600?
Regular 485, I got it used for 300$!
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If you can already play, you can make it work. If you're a beginner, the low end guitar is where you learn how to make it work. Some of the bargain guitars are pretty darn good. Some, like a 3/4 size bass I bought for $125 have fish hooks and razor blades for fret ends and rattle like a tin can with marbles in it.
@@breft3416 hahaha! I hear you. But honestly, these Musis are fantastic! None of those issues! 😀