A wonderful lady and collection. It would be educational to be informed the growing, fertilising program so I could apply to my 2 persimmon fruit trees in my back yard.
Thanks this was informative, I am trying to pick one tree, one variety to grow. It's confusing but I think I want a non-astringent without seeds that is sweet. I think Jiro and Fuyu seems to be the big choices that fill that bill.
Outstanding videos ... all of them. So informative. Dave, what species or variety would be best for a smaller space? I've never heard of any dwarfs or semi's. Are there any that are self-pollinating?
Most peaches and nectarines are self-fruitful and are available as genetic dwarfs. Some plums are self-fruitful. You can keep any fruit tree any size you prefer by summer pruning it.
I love the tour! I am looking for info on whether persimmons can be grown in the high density style in my backyard. Is it ok to prune them short (knee high) when planting like I’ve seen you do with other fruits? A lot of sources online scoff at the idea saying persimmons need much more space!
I just planted one, How often you water yours? I hear a lot that you shouldn't water it that much but when is recently planted you should right? I live in the Phoenix area, so the summer is brutal thats another reason, I just don't want to kill it if I water to much
Does anyone know if any of these varieties will do well in San Clemente? I am only about a mile from the beach so we don't get the heat that Irvine gets but I want a very pretty persimmon tree, with droopy branches (otherwise I can't see it from my house) due to an overhang and I want to be able to see the pretty fall branches.
@getmesomechopstx Yes, separation far enough to avoid cross pollination by bee activity. I would imagine several hundred yards. I have Jiro, Hichiya, Coffee Cake and Chocolate planted as a four in one. I get great pollinated Coffee Cake fruit and a wonderful set on all four. Seeds in my Jiro don't bother me, considering all the other benefits I can deal with a few seeds.
How often should I water a Fuyu Persimmon? Just planted one 2 days ago here in the Phoenix area, i hear a lot about not watering it to much but I know a newly planted tree supposed to be water regularly especially in the 100 degree summers
Manuel Arellano probably want to water it a couple times a week or more. Get a moister meter and that will help. You definitely want to cover the root zone with a thick layer of mulch. This will cool the roots and make better use of your water.
@@DaveWilsonTrees Thank you so much for your reply, I saw one of your videos about watering and yes Im thinking on buying a moisture meter, I put mulch is a must here in phoenix, And painted the trunk, I also planted next to him a Black sapote, So now he has a cousin, I have another question for you, You think I should cover it with a shade cloth? I don't know how tolerant are they with sun, Sorry I have so much questions, I have mangos in my backyard, guavas, avocados, and a barbados cherry, Longan, But this is my first experience with a Persimmon and I search for info and Is just confusing, And I know you have a few persimmon trees thats why all this questions, Have a nice evening and thank you again.
Jiro Fuyu is very popular, and should be easy to find. They can be precocious, so you will likely get a few fruits first year. You can find a nursery near you that will have them by going to our website.
Tom I got Jiro Persimmon and this is its first year in ground. It seems to be really slow growing, only 3 new shoots after cutting it back to knee height in spring/summer. The shoots are no more than 5 inches long. is this slow growing nature is normal of Jiro Persimmon trees? Thanks sandy
This might be too late, but any idea what is the ID of the super productive, late ripening, un-named astringent variety Isabel showed at the end of the video? I couldn't find it online
I’m in the Coachella valley, they say it is zone 9b, but I think it is more like zone 10, any way I’d like to grow some persimmons , yet I want to make sure it’ll grow in this area, what kind do you recommend I thank you before hand , and hope to hear from you Carlos
I have seen successful persimmon trees and production in the lower desert but it will take some effort. 3 or 4 hours of late afternoon shade. Whitewashing to protect against early and mid day sun exposure. Fast draining soil and a soil PH of 6.5 to 7.5. Jiro Fuyu is the only variety I have seen planted there. Personally I think it’s too much effort for the reward. In a summer like this with temps in the 110 to 120 range all the fruit will scald and drop before it’s ripe. Plant an early season peach on nemagard rootstock and enjoy some fresh peaches in May and buy your persimmon fruit in the fall.
Is there an advantage in growing my persimmon tree for the first two year or until they are at least 5 feet tall in a large pot where I can baby them before putting them in the ground?
Is persimmon usually grafted onto Lotus root-stock? Is this to control size of the tree? I have some persimmon trees where the graft has died and the root-stock kept growing, the fruit looks like tiny pea-sized persimmons. Is this Lotus?
Yes, that is Lotus. It is the most popular persimmon rootstock due to seed availability and scion compatibility. Kaki seed is hard to find, Virginiana is not compatible with all varieties of persimmon like Lotus is. It is also to control the size of the tree.
I bet you havent tried Iranian varieties. They are stringent and needs to be left they become ripe and soft. But they are extremely delicious and some as sweet as dates.
The Irvine extension station is not open to the public on a regular basis. They host one or two open houses per year usually in summer and fall. You would be welcome to volunteer for one of my workshops and help us with a project. My next workshop will probably be in May for apple fruit thinning.
Dave Wilson Nursery I'd love to Know whenever you have events. Should I send you an email? Do you know if the riverside citrus variety collection is also closed to the public for visiting?
Send me an e-mail about May 1st on the apple project. The UC Riverside citrus collection is not open to the public. They have a citrus class in the spring or summer where a tour of the collection is available. You also have the California State Citrus Park on Van Buren Ave in Riverside. Tours and tastings available. Open to the public 7 days a week.
+Dave Wilson Nursery - Thanks for replying. no seeds and flesh was more orange colored. they were over ripe and falling off tree. Wondering if maybe it was'nt cross pollinated as to why they are so stainy.
Are there any good smaller persimmon trees? I am interested in Coffee cake and chocolate but I don't think I have the space. How are the root systems? Can I plant these in between a patio and retainer wall?
Awesome footage of an awesome fruit.
A wonderful lady and collection. It would be educational to be informed the growing, fertilising program so I could apply to my 2 persimmon fruit trees in my back yard.
Great video
if you wanted to plant 2 in your backyard, which ones would go best together? love the videos. i have 15 dave wilson trees in my yard.
Thanks this was informative, I am trying to pick one tree, one variety to grow. It's confusing but I think I want a non-astringent without seeds that is sweet. I think Jiro and Fuyu seems to be the big choices that fill that bill.
Izu is another option. Also Giant Fuyu.
What is the identification number of the last tree in the video, the heavy producer?
Outstanding videos ... all of them. So informative. Dave, what species or variety would be best for a smaller space? I've never heard of any dwarfs or semi's. Are there any that are self-pollinating?
Most peaches and nectarines are self-fruitful and are available as genetic dwarfs. Some plums are self-fruitful. You can keep any fruit tree any size you prefer by summer pruning it.
It must be wonderful just to walk into, an orchard and start eating fruit straight out from the trees .
I love the tour! I am looking for info on whether persimmons can be grown in the high density style in my backyard. Is it ok to prune them short (knee high) when planting like I’ve seen you do with other fruits? A lot of sources online scoff at the idea saying persimmons need much more space!
Hachiya can ripen on the tree without frost here in the San Diego area.
Persimmons are my favorite. I actually have a fuyu in my backyard. This fruit is very healthy rich in minerals and antioxidants.
I just planted one, How often you water yours? I hear a lot that you shouldn't water it that much but when is recently planted you should right? I live in the Phoenix area, so the summer is brutal thats another reason, I just don't want to kill it if I water to much
According to experts twice a week is enough. I also use Jobe for fertilizer applied in spring and fall. Good luck.
likes it. are your giving tour? I noticed you ate the skin too?
After all the different types of fruit I have tasted, persimmons are still my favorite!
Wow my number one fruit in USA
Does anyone know if any of these varieties will do well in San Clemente? I am only about a mile from the beach so we don't get the heat that Irvine gets but I want a very pretty persimmon tree, with droopy branches (otherwise I can't see it from my house) due to an overhang and I want to be able to see the pretty fall branches.
@getmesomechopstx Yes, separation far enough to avoid cross pollination by bee activity. I would imagine several hundred yards. I have Jiro, Hichiya, Coffee Cake and Chocolate planted as a four in one. I get great pollinated Coffee Cake fruit and a wonderful set on all four. Seeds in my Jiro don't bother me, considering all the other benefits I can deal with a few seeds.
How often should I water a Fuyu Persimmon? Just planted one 2 days ago here in the Phoenix area, i hear a lot about not watering it to much but I know a newly planted tree supposed to be water regularly especially in the 100 degree summers
Manuel Arellano probably want to water it a couple times a week or more. Get a moister meter and that will help. You definitely want to cover the root zone with a thick layer of mulch. This will cool the roots and make better use of your water.
@@DaveWilsonTrees Thank you so much for your reply, I saw one of your videos about watering and yes Im thinking on buying a moisture meter, I put mulch is a must here in phoenix, And painted the trunk, I also planted next to him a Black sapote, So now he has a cousin, I have another question for you, You think I should cover it with a shade cloth? I don't know how tolerant are they with sun, Sorry I have so much questions, I have mangos in my backyard, guavas, avocados, and a barbados cherry, Longan, But this is my first experience with a Persimmon and I search for info and Is just confusing, And I know you have a few persimmon trees thats why all this questions, Have a nice evening and thank you again.
Jiro Fuyu is very popular, and should be easy to find. They can be precocious, so you will likely get a few fruits first year. You can find a nursery near you that will have them by going to our website.
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Tom
I got Jiro Persimmon and this is its first year in ground.
It seems to be really slow growing, only 3 new shoots after cutting it back to knee height in spring/summer. The shoots are no more than 5 inches long.
is this slow growing nature is normal of Jiro Persimmon trees?
Thanks
sandy
***** Not that unusual for a first season in ground. Make sure you are irrigating and fertilizing properly and you should get 1' to 3' this season.
This might be too late, but any idea what is the ID of the super productive, late ripening, un-named astringent variety Isabel showed at the end of the video? I couldn't find it online
My Fuyu Persimmon still hasnt come out of dormancy and it's March 5th, should I consider it dead by now or does this happen sometimes?
+rabasil They are late bloomers, I'd wait a couple weeks.
How much cost this fruit per kg?
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I’m in the Coachella valley, they say it is zone 9b, but I think it is more like zone 10, any way I’d like to grow some persimmons , yet I want to make sure it’ll grow in this area, what kind do you recommend
I thank you before hand , and hope to hear from you Carlos
I have seen successful persimmon trees and production in the lower desert but it will take some effort. 3 or 4 hours of late afternoon shade. Whitewashing to protect against early and mid day sun exposure. Fast draining soil and a soil PH of 6.5 to 7.5. Jiro Fuyu is the only variety I have seen planted there. Personally I think it’s too much effort for the reward. In a summer like this with temps in the 110 to 120 range all the fruit will scald and drop before it’s ripe. Plant an early season peach on nemagard rootstock and enjoy some fresh peaches in May and buy your persimmon fruit in the fall.
Is there an advantage in growing my persimmon tree for the first two year or until they are at least 5 feet tall in a large pot where I can baby them before putting them in the ground?
bubayou no, it will be better in the ground.
Thank you
Informative, thanks. The smacking is unpleasant; the content is excellent. :)
That was an experimental variety, probably won't be released.
What is that prolific persimmon shown at the end? Is it on sale to the public?
It is called Prolific Persimmon. justfruitsandexotics.com/product/prolific-persimmon-tree/
I would like to ask if I can graft persimmon onto peach tree rootstock?
No, that won't work.
Is persimmon usually grafted onto Lotus root-stock? Is this to control size of the tree? I have some persimmon trees where the graft has died and the root-stock kept growing, the fruit looks like tiny pea-sized persimmons. Is this Lotus?
Yes, that is Lotus. It is the most popular persimmon rootstock due to seed availability and scion compatibility. Kaki seed is hard to find, Virginiana is not compatible with all varieties of persimmon like Lotus is. It is also to control the size of the tree.
Thank you for the reply. :)
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I bet you havent tried Iranian varieties. They are stringent and needs to be left they become ripe and soft. But they are extremely delicious and some as sweet as dates.
Jiro Fuyu and Hachiya are most popular.
What is the number for the heavy producer at the end of the video please?
Seriously I too would like to know... is this a variety that a commercial nursery could trial from ARS-GRIN?
You can collect the persimmon and let them mature in boxes.
How can I visit? I'm a professional cook and would love to learn more on site in irvine
The Irvine extension station is not open to the public on a regular basis. They host one or two open houses per year usually in summer and fall. You would be welcome to volunteer for one of my workshops and help us with a project. My next workshop will probably be in May for apple fruit thinning.
Dave Wilson Nursery I'd love to
Know whenever you have events. Should I send you an email? Do you know if the riverside citrus variety collection is also closed to the public for visiting?
Send me an e-mail about May 1st on the apple project. The UC Riverside citrus collection is not open to the public. They have a citrus class in the spring or summer where a tour of the collection is available. You also have the California State Citrus Park on Van Buren Ave in Riverside. Tours and tastings available. Open to the public 7 days a week.
What kind of non astringent persimmon good for small spaces
Rachel Green Fuyu would be the most popular. Izu, Chocolate and Giant fuyu would work also.
Dave Wilson Nursery Thank you so much for your reply. Appreciate it.
Tom Spellman& Isabel Barkman
my persimmon tree is very tall 50 ft. has very small fruit. ripen after frost. live in Il. are these trees natural or imported?
Sounds like the native Dysporus Virginana. American persimmon.
+Dave Wilson Nursery yes I think your right, is a guirky little persimmon ripening now. nothing like these V. pie soon from ours.
What could make a Meter american persimmon taste like urick powder when it's fully ripe.
Many persimmons are astringent unless pollinated or soft ripe. Wait until they are very soft and then they should have nice flavor.
+Dave Wilson Nursery - -it was soft ripe on tree and still very stainy, intresting that were as small as apricots.
+Joseph Allie did it have any seeds? Was the flesh dark or more orange colored? They may have to be very soft ripe, almost seemingly over ripe.
+Dave Wilson Nursery - Thanks for replying. no seeds and flesh was more orange colored. they were over ripe and falling off tree. Wondering if maybe it was'nt cross pollinated as to why they are so stainy.
+Joseph Allie whached a few videos and it seems this is a wild type and not good for eating except for the animals
, just for grafting
Are there any good smaller persimmon trees? I am interested in Coffee cake and chocolate but I don't think I have the space.
How are the root systems? Can I plant these in between a patio and retainer wall?
Grow them in pots.
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