Top 10 Abstract Strategy Games - with Tom Vasel
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- Tom Vasel presents his Top 10 abstract strategy games!
00:00 - Introduction
01:34 - #10
02:10 - #9
02:49 - #8
03:19 - #7
04:14 - #6
04:47 - #5
05:14 - #4
05:45 - #3
06:34 - #2
07:19 - #1
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It can be argued that abstract strategy is the world's oldest board game genre. Despite that, we continue to see amazing games in the genre be released. In fact, I will go so far as to declare, despite the presence of the notable heavy dungeon crawlers Gloomhaven and 7th Continent, that 2017 was really The Year of the Abstract. Santorini, Tak, Onitama, Azul...what an unparalleled year for the genre!
I think there's an issue with the color correction on your camera...
;-)
Oh! I get it!
1) Hive
2) The Duke
3) Onitama
4) Pueblo
5) Fearsome Floors
Excellent list.
For the record, Santorini is an island, not a city (or town) it has two notable towns, Thira and Oia. Thira is popular with cruise ships so if you did organise an European dice tower cruise, you could have people playing Santorini IN Santorini.
I think you mean ON Santorini - if you are serious about the island thing. :)
Thanks for the list dude!
Santorini also my fav. Often play this as we wait for everyone to show up to the game group. Have not tried the golden fleece part yet.
I like Santorini too. And don't own Golden Fleece expansion. I have the target retail version wonder how it compares to the original Roxley ver.
been playin games wit my lady friend. so far her favs are Azul and Hamamakoji. super fun games. also Shobu is neat.
Azul has taken over my life.
Azul, and Sagrada are awesome!
Back in the 1980s I used to play the heck out of a chess variant -- it's been known by several different names, and I've seen several variants of it: Team Chess. The main issue with it is that with 4 players, it requires two full-sized chess sets, and two speed-chess clocks (which at least way back when, could be expensive). There's more to it, but the general idea is that if you capture a piece, you pass it to your partner (or to the middle, if you play with 3 person teams, or around in a circle with more people). Any piece that's passed to you, you can place on your board in any legal position, instead of moving. I had the same issue with chess -- it became boring to me. But Team Chess was like a jolt of adrenaline. We used to play at this Deli in NJ, and we'd have crowds watching us play all the time (so the restaurant loved us). Games usually took no more than 10 minutes. It was a great equalizer, since it was less important that you were good at chess, and more important that you played super aggressive, and could move quickly. It also helped if you had a teammate who knew how to work with you.
My friend introduced this variation to me 6 years ago. I’m not a chess person, but this variation was cool.
Bug house
How do you put it on the third level of a dome? Won't it roll off?
Stratego... fantasy edition Fire VS Ice... amazing!! This edition makes the game a lot more enjoyable with each character having special abilities.
ahhhh, the midlife crisis purple colored beard. I sense a sporty convertible coming next. ;-)
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For me, my favorite is Shogi: Japanese chess. The mechanic that I love is that the pieces you capture from your opponent can be placed back on the board for your own use. The pieces are all the same color, but they are wedged shaped, meaning that the direction the wedge points indicates which player owns them. Huge depth to the game and since all the pieces are in play, the end game I feel is more interesting and variable than in chess.
Can Zee do a top five companion to your top 10 abstract strategy games?
If they happen to not record Zee's list, you could look at the last top 100 list to see his top five games.
Pleaaaaaaase!!!
Tom - Gord of Santorini here. Check out Urbino by Dieter Stein.
My current favorite abstracts not on Tom’s list: Trexo, Hive, Blokus (possibly my favorite abstract), Rumis (aka Blokus 3D), Lines of Action, Ponte Del Diavolo, Twixt, Abalone, Volcano (and other Pyramid Arcade games).
Haven't tried any of the others but I love Blokus!!!
I’m getting the urge to listen to a Prince album for some reason
If you didn't include Through the Desert because it has a theme, then how is Santorini ok?
Do you think it's less of a theme?
Latice is a excellent family weight abstract strategy game. Not super think but has gone over well with everyone we've played with. Also, easy to learn.
Lattice is one of my favorite abstract games. Also, an oldie but goodie is Pente.
I don't need a theme to really enjoy a game, and I love abstract strategy. Three from the GIPF series are my favorites: Yinsh, Lyngk, and Tzaar. I like Onitama okay, and I don't care for Santorini. I'll have to check out the others on Tom's list. Thanks for the video!
Hey Tom, what is the name of the song you use in your intro here? The earworm is real and I must know the name, hah
Been playing different games finally settled at Backgammon..
There is dice involved but the probability part of the dice favours a strategic player..
Backgammon is ultra cool. It's the James Bond of board games.
4:02 .... is he saying Yarrow ? Yarra ? Yaro ? , i'd like to look it up plz thx
Quoridor is still my favorite, but I haven't played many abstracts over the last few years...
A game you should check out is Chase by TSR Games. In came out in 1985 and is played with dice on a hexagonal square board. It is a pure abstract strategy game that is just as challenging to play as Chess. The rules are completely different than Chess. The game board board setup and various move types is outstanding. The game board has no boundaries. Some of the moves are Capture like in Chess. You can land on your own piece, which Bumps it into the next board space and if it is occupied by your opponent, that piece is capture. You can Bump you first piece, 1 on the die, into the piece beside it and cause a chain reaction. You can Swap 2 pieces that are side by side exchange values. If you land in the center of the board, this let you bring an additional piece onto the board, including captured pieces.
Great list
A few of my favorites: Hermetica, Tak, LYNGK, Santorini
Quixo, easy to learn, lovely short game. (5 on a row variant)
I wanna see top 10 cowboy/old west games!
How is Santorini your favorite yet Onitama is in the Dice Tower Essential line? It also is the first game you added to that new line. You also forgot to mention Hive, Tak, and Hnefatafl.
How did he forget to mention them?
i really want a game similar to chess, so its all about unit placements and planning ahead , however what i don't like about chess is that weaker units can take anything in one move. does anyone know of one where each unit has advantages and disadvantages like archers for distance but poor against cavalry ect , mabie even landscape on the board ??
Santorini feels like chess if you play against someone very strategic and competitive at your same level.
IMO the ability for weaker units to capture anything is part of the beauty, it enables tactics like threatening to trade a weak piece for a stronger one, for example, making their weakness a strength, a nice self-balancing emergent mechanic. If you want a strict hierarchy, maybe Arimaa would appeal to you? It also has some sort of "landscape" in the form of trap squares(the only way to eliminate pieces). Or do you want a rock-paper-scissors style relationship where certain pieces can only capture certain types of piece?
Tom and Zee mention games from the Gipf series quite a bit, but never talk about Gipf. Is it a bad game?
Game of Thrones Hand of the King from Fantasy Flight is a delightful abstract-strategy game.
Seikatsu is my favorite abstract game
I actually have Santorini it's such a good game!
I'd love to try Kamisado, Khet, and Santorini... maybe someday
I haven't tried Khet yet but the other two are great!
Kamisado exists as an app, you could try it there.
please do another one 🎉
Hive, Raptor and Santorini are great!
Triangoli didnt make it ? :)
Santorini, yep
I'd place tak there
Me too
#1 Tak, #2 Kahuna, #3 Android Mainframe, #4 Hive (I still have to try onitama) Really hard to separate even superficially pasted-on themes with this list.
It was probably my # 11 or #12
Absolutely
Element, great abstract game
d'alex dario I was wondering about it I am trying to get into board games with my son to get off the electronics as much haha plus they are fun this a good one?
My Domain69. Yes, i highly raccomand it. Simple to learn hard to master and relatively cheap.
Tak, Azul, Photosynthesis, Aton, Patchwork
I love Megis from Brass Engine Games
Would The Climbers qualify? I think it might. If so, that one deserves some love. :-)
Blokus and Blokus Trigon
Azul and Pyramix
What did you mean by Go making your brain squishy?
I KNEW IT! #tom's#1
The last one of these Top 10's i watched your beard and hair were green, today I see you're going with purple! Hahaha! What's up? Did I miss some explanation in another video?
Knack Ability I assume he’s just having fun for Mardi Gras
For me Hive, Quarto and Blockus.
To any who put forward Raptor. That has a theme, it is Scientists competing with a mother raptor for raptor babies. And believe it or not the theme of Azul is ceramic tiles.
Fascinating. I'm a lover of abstract games, and I didn't care for Onitama and I hated Santorini.
Blokus by Mattel?
Love it
Why isn't raptor on this list ? :(
No Hive?
The Duke!
What about Azul?
Cathedral is still one I enjoy too.
what about Hive!
Can someone please tell me what is up with Tom's colored beard lately? Don't get me wrong, I like them, but just wondering if there was a reason behind this...?
Raptor and Fjords
Not to brag too much, but 5 of these 10 games can be played on Boardspace.net
Nice video as usual Tom. Put chess at the top of the list for me. There's good reason it has been played for hundreds of years and will continue to be played with most of these games are long forgotten.
Oh, and just to be that guy, Santorini is an island, not a city.
Bill Cook cool, the Greeks had sex with children for many years and continued to do so until they died out. Kind of morbid example but my point is just because something has been around for a long time doesn’t mean it’s good. I could go even further and say tradition/religion as well but that is not a discussion I want to get into. Imo tzaar and tak were games he missed in his top 10
wh3elson He didnt say its good because its been there for long, he said there is a reason its been there for long. You are missing his point.
That reason is probably "nothing else was around to compete with chess"
I think Zee should have done this list
Yeah, so Tom can do non-combinatorial abstracts
I like his top 2 choices, but the rest are meh (though I haven't tried Glux, yet). However, Six Making is by far the best abstract I've ever played. It's simultaneously for people that like chess, and for people that dislike it. An amazingly clever little game.
What I didn't like about the Duke was the next power being face-down... probably because of my poor memory. I recognize it's probably a good game, just, not for me. More my own fault than the game's.
I'll definitely check Vikingdoms out. Thanks.
Did he actually dry his beard purple? Or is this a camera color issue? Looks sweet though lml
Tzaar and Hive for me.
No Quoridor?!
is there something wrong with the colors
La Trel is purdy good
Where is Dragon Castle on this list?
Definitely Can't be a good top without Hive and Abalone!!
1. Santorini
2. Azul
3. Yinsh
4. Samurai
5. Tak
6. Medina
6. Go
7. Quarto
8. Onitama
9. The Duke
10. NMBR 9
11. Hive
12. Backgammon/Chess
13. Quoridor
14. photosynthesis
15. Blokus
16. Otrio
17. Kamisado
Not sure it would be considered "abstract" but Terrace is a good game for 2 to 4 players.
TZAAR is the best GIPF game, though YINSH is great as well.
Suprised he didn't do tash kalar
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He has reviewed it, but didn't like it.
Jumpgate Drifter oh..right. I was mixing up my memory of a dif reviewer that did like it with toms.
SU&SD liked it a lot, so I juggled their review and Tom's one, and bought it.
Othello should have been on the list .
Azul :)
The only abstract games I like are chess and Reiner Knizia's Ingenious. Theme is extremely important.
HIVE!
I’m sure someone has already asked this...but what is up with the change in beard color?? I mean it’s fabulous...but..WHY???
No way ^_^
Take Back Toe
Go
Blokus is still better, I believe.
Uuuuuuuuuhhh... Did you lose a bet, Tom?
You look like buzz light year lol
Santorini's god powers are way unbalanced and make it not truly abstract. I never play with them.
The point of the video is: stick to chess
I’ve only started watching this to say I hate abstract games. They feel like an iq test that I am failing miserably. Leaving now.