With the clay balls at the bottom how does any nutrient get to the Coco? The smart valve only fills to about half an inch and the clay balls are deeper than this and they don't wick. I'm imagining that roots will grow down into the liquid but all the Coco will be bone dry.
Auto pots with coco is basically a hydro setup. I believe the nutrients don’t necessarily need to reach coco when bottom feeding seeing roots will make there way down to the water anyway. That’s the whole design point behind the autopot. Definitely an interesting question I have yet to try autopots but I’ve done some research and I mostly see people skipping on the clay pellets and just using all substrate
I’m not an expert but while researching it’s definitely not necessary to use the air dome but it’s pretty much a proven fact it will help yields if all other conditions are dialed in correctly
good day I beg you how the water is supposed to be pummelled so the roots don't suffer so far I've had it traveled all the time but it seems to me then the roots rot it's only supposed to be let go once every two days for a certain amount of time?
So the "Root Control Disc." I got the single 2 pot system and one guide says to "place the Root Control Disc inside the pot gold face down" and then on the other guide that's with that package says to "place the Root Control Disc in the try gold face up!" so this makes things a bit confusing and conflicting... Can someone please tell me the correct way to place this disc.!?
It’s a thin layer of copper, which kills (prunes) the roots when they come into contact. You’ll notice tree killing solution have copper based ingredients. Some old timers used to drive copper nails into the base of trees to kill them. Copper side up facing roots. The roots must come into contact.
An air stone would work, but not with organic nutrients really, or normal SHOGUN Sumo Boost. You would need an air pump and air stone. A normal pump would certainly help keep the nutrients nicely mixed, but would not necessarily offer much in the way of oxygenation.
We guess you could try but it sort of defeats the point of having an automated system? You'd also need to make sure that you allow a period of time for any run-off before putting the pots back on the trays, otherwise the thicker organic nutrient solution is still going to find a way into your pipes, causing potential blockages. Our general advice is still not to do this - good luck experimenting and let us know how you get on!
you can feed organically with the new upgrade of aquavalve5, my english is not that good so i have one piece copied. AQUAvalve5 - a 66% Bigger Inlet The needs of growers are ever-evolving, served by an increasingly diverse range of nutrients. With a 5mm inlet, the new AQUAvalve5 rises to the challenge of delivering the widest range of nutrients in a faster flow for a quicker fill, maximising system efficiency. Maintenance is reduced and the risk of blockages minimised. Also you can make it compatible with the autopots you already have, read more here. www.manchesterhydroponics.co.uk/product/autopot-aqua-valve-5/
Best way to clean? Iv had nothing but problem with them root rot because my plants are to wet all the time think my pipes are clogged up because feed will sit in there all day and get hot started to feed thru the tops now so no better of them just normal pots
This is something we've never come across in this system, there is only a small amount of solution left in the bottom tray. We recommend keeping the nutrient solution in your tank fresh and clean. Use a good medium in your AutoPot like 60/40 Clay Coco or 70/30 Coco. Usually with light loving plants they will also be drinking quite a lot so there is a low risk of root rot or fungus.
there's 2 solutions for that , 1 - once the trays are full shut off the feed line till the water in the trays gets sucked up by the plant , once empty wait a cpl days and refill the trays and repeat ... 2 - there's air domes suggested to use inside your pots to feed air bubbles to the roots .... these should prevent your issues , gl
I have 2 15L auto pots, 2" clay pebbles and coco on top with air domes.. PH in my pots seems to climb drastically higher than my resevoir PH, and become stagnant. I'm getting lockout issues because of this. What am I doing wrong. Nothing but issues with these pots. Ph in is 5.7
This is just a guess but did you use ph stable clay pebbles? And if not soak the clay pebbles in water ph’d to 5.5 for 48. Hours before potting up with them. They could be causing your high ph in the pots
@@brettbecker6543 hey bret sorry for the late reply. Thanks for yours. I did not soak the pebbles, but I rinsed them very thoroughly to remove the dust. I recently switched to a small RO system. Just gave the new crop thier first watering with that. Will see how it goes. Thanks again for your thoughts. To add to that the ph was climbing in the res mainly and flowing to the pots.
Same problem mate did you find a fix? I find cleaning them evry 2 weeks abit helpful but sill climbs I dont use ro system either as the water iv got is decent enough
The system is awesome but the fact that u have to use mineral fertilizer scares me😂 tryed it once and absolutely killed my plant after just fucking up once
@@tarotthehangman9961 I’m not a big fan of them even some of the more expensive ones are a hassle to get working right. Set yourself a schedule and buy a good 5/10 litre pump sprayer
@@TimRobson30 Not as good as automation. As you can feed as many times a day and one at night....and always at the regularity and set amounts. Once you have that dialed in, then you can twerk to perfection. ....and get some life back and be able to go away for a few days. Also I looked at flooding by hand and running off some extra into the tray and sucking it up with a wet vac, so I would have needed a 1m tray which costs about £21 and the wet vac, £40 watering can £5 and fabric pots £15 and a sterile new mixing bucket £9 equals about ninety quid. The coco bricks are £7.50 each so £30 for 4 and mixed with everything.....so about the same as coco + perlite and some clay chipping when filling 64 litres. I'd go for the Alien Easy Feed system as it has the wider tubes that don't need as much maintenance. After spending to get a good fan and controller T6 to regulate the tent and humidity, it seems natural to regulate the feeding as well, so you have a set table and feed sheet to work from as you fine tune your nutes ratios.
With the clay balls at the bottom how does any nutrient get to the Coco? The smart valve only fills to about half an inch and the clay balls are deeper than this and they don't wick. I'm imagining that roots will grow down into the liquid but all the Coco will be bone dry.
Auto pots with coco is basically a hydro setup. I believe the nutrients don’t necessarily need to reach coco when bottom feeding seeing roots will make there way down to the water anyway. That’s the whole design point behind the autopot. Definitely an interesting question I have yet to try autopots but I’ve done some research and I mostly see people skipping on the clay pellets and just using all substrate
Do you have to run a pump in the reservoir of the autopot system or is that just recommended??
I run a small very small electric submersible pump and an air bubbler
@@dennis7736air bubbles mess with the ph and ppm? I was told by autopot. Just a recirculating pump
I’m not an expert but while researching it’s definitely not necessary to use the air dome but it’s pretty much a proven fact it will help yields if all other conditions are dialed in correctly
good day I beg you how the water is supposed to be pummelled so the roots don't suffer so far I've had it traveled all the time but it seems to me then the roots rot it's only supposed to be let go once every two days for a certain amount of time?
...What?
So the "Root Control Disc." I got the single 2 pot system and one guide says to "place the Root Control Disc inside the pot gold face down" and then on the other guide that's with that package says to "place the Root Control Disc in the try gold face up!" so this makes things a bit confusing and conflicting... Can someone please tell me the correct way to place this disc.!?
We recommend placing with the gold side facing up 👍
@@growell Gold face up inside the pot.? Yes...?
Yes, that's right
It’s a thin layer of copper, which kills (prunes) the roots when they come into contact. You’ll notice tree killing solution have copper based ingredients. Some old timers used to drive copper nails into the base of trees to kill them.
Copper side up facing roots. The roots must come into contact.
If I only use a 12gal reservoir Willa bubble water stone work or does it have to be a bubbler or whatever he called it
An air stone would work, but not with organic nutrients really, or normal SHOGUN Sumo Boost.
You would need an air pump and air stone.
A normal pump would certainly help keep the nutrients nicely mixed, but would not necessarily offer much in the way of oxygenation.
I’m out 7-8days after transplant in the autopots it forgot the copper mats is that gonna screw me?..
Pumping air will cause the ph to spike that's why they use a recirculating water pump to just keep the nutes mixed
Do you happen to know what garland trays they use in this video looking for those exact dimension ones for my grow tent.
In this video we used Jumbo Garland Trays: www.growell.co.uk/growing-systems/pots-trays/garland-work-trays.html
What size tent are you growing in?
What model water pump is used in this video?
Hi there, it's a small Maxi-Jet pump.
This is awesome information thanks for sharing ❤
Hi!
Can I feed organic nutrients, like compost teas ? If so, what's the best way ? Just dump in the reservoir, or feed directly in the pots ?
Thanks.
We would not advise that you use organic nutrients with the AutoPot System. They're too thick and gloopy, often blocking the pipes.
@@growell So can I remove the pot, feed with organic nutrients and put the pot back into the autopot base ?
Thanks for your reply
We guess you could try but it sort of defeats the point of having an automated system? You'd also need to make sure that you allow a period of time for any run-off before putting the pots back on the trays, otherwise the thicker organic nutrient solution is still going to find a way into your pipes, causing potential blockages. Our general advice is still not to do this - good luck experimenting and let us know how you get on!
@@growell Thanks alot!
Peace
you can feed organically with the new upgrade of aquavalve5,
my english is not that good so i have one
piece copied.
AQUAvalve5 - a 66% Bigger Inlet
The needs of growers are ever-evolving, served by an increasingly diverse range of nutrients. With a 5mm inlet, the new AQUAvalve5 rises to the challenge of delivering the widest range of nutrients in a faster flow for a quicker fill, maximising system efficiency. Maintenance is reduced and the risk of blockages minimised.
Also you can make it compatible with the autopots you already have, read more here.
www.manchesterhydroponics.co.uk/product/autopot-aqua-valve-5/
Best way to clean? Iv had nothing but problem with them root rot because my plants are to wet all the time think my pipes are clogged up because feed will sit in there all day and get hot started to feed thru the tops now so no better of them just normal pots
Do you have to open the tap all the way up? My system just over pours if I do? I have reset valves ect.. Any advice be great Cheers...
No, you don't have to open the valve all the way. You can partially open the valve to reduce the flow.
once you by media does it ever need replacing?
We'd recommend for best results use fresh media every crop.
@@growell thats gonna cost
@@bootangy you can reuse hydroponic media such as coir, hydro pebbles, etc
@@ceili ty
@Anonymous i am yet to start.
I was curious can you use rockwool with this system?
You can use Cellmax Growing Cubes, which are made out of rockwool. :)
@@growell Ok awesome! thanks for responding. I appreciate it! stay safe!!
What if you only growing with LSO not the PGR rubbish??
why shouldnt we use a air stone in the tank?
It can cause ph to spike dramtically
can you actually use a pump in the rez? im getting getting conflicting reports
Just a circulation pump. It's gravity fed to the trays.
Still have yet to try it but I’ve heard you can just use an aquarium wave maker or two depending on the size of your rez to keep the solution mixed
how to prevent root fungus as the water always stays at the bottom and no air vent?
This is something we've never come across in this system, there is only a small amount of solution left in the bottom tray. We recommend keeping the nutrient solution in your tank fresh and clean. Use a good medium in your AutoPot like 60/40 Clay Coco or 70/30 Coco. Usually with light loving plants they will also be drinking quite a lot so there is a low risk of root rot or fungus.
there's 2 solutions for that , 1 - once the trays are full shut off the feed line till the water in the trays gets sucked up by the plant , once empty wait a cpl days and refill the trays and repeat ... 2 - there's air domes suggested to use inside your pots to feed air bubbles to the roots .... these should prevent your issues , gl
@@yvonpilon8609Brilliant just the comment I needed cheers for that
Awesome tips
No dirt for me, rockwool and clay pebbles for hydroponics.
Do you have an example that you can link for everyone?
Coco isn't dirt. Neither is peat. It's called soil.
I have 2 15L auto pots, 2" clay pebbles and coco on top with air domes.. PH in my pots seems to climb drastically higher than my resevoir PH, and become stagnant. I'm getting lockout issues because of this. What am I doing wrong. Nothing but issues with these pots. Ph in is 5.7
This is just a guess but did you use ph stable clay pebbles? And if not soak the clay pebbles in water ph’d to 5.5 for 48. Hours before potting up with them. They could be causing your high ph in the pots
@@brettbecker6543 hey bret sorry for the late reply. Thanks for yours. I did not soak the pebbles, but I rinsed them very thoroughly to remove the dust. I recently switched to a small RO system. Just gave the new crop thier first watering with that. Will see how it goes. Thanks again for your thoughts. To add to that the ph was climbing in the res mainly and flowing to the pots.
Same problem mate did you find a fix? I find cleaning them evry 2 weeks abit helpful but sill climbs I dont use ro system either as the water iv got is decent enough
ph'd water isnt stable for verry long , it can change in less then 24 hrs .... best to check your rez ph daily and adjust accordingly , gl
@yvonpilon8609 by adjusting the ph every day does that effect the nutrient ratio?
The system is awesome but the fact that u have to use mineral fertilizer scares me😂 tryed it once and absolutely killed my plant after just fucking up once
I use them with living soil and pure water
How is it auto if you have to do all that..
....Because you fill up the water reservoir and it automatically feeds the plants.
I put some wicks in mine, so the plants started growing well right away.
Hi. What is Wicks?
i USE RAW NPK BECAUSE IT DISSOLVES 100$% MINUS THE GROW AND BLOOM MICROBES...i USUALLY WATER IT IN FROM THE TOP
GOOD FOR YOU MATE, WATERING FROM THE TOP IS THE WAY TO GO UNTIL YOUR ROOTS ARE ESTABLISHED.
Lol its not tips...its most to sell your products
or just say fack it and use pro mix.
This guy bites his nails more than me
Buy this product it makes things so much easier. At same time requires you to buy a ton of extra stuff so it works right. No thanks
Do you have any recommendations for a automatic watering system
@@tarotthehangman9961 I’m not a big fan of them even some of the more expensive ones are a hassle to get working right. Set yourself a schedule and buy a good 5/10 litre pump sprayer
@@TimRobson30 Not as good as automation. As you can feed as many times a day and one at night....and always at the regularity and set amounts. Once you have that dialed in, then you can twerk to perfection. ....and get some life back and be able to go away for a few days.
Also I looked at flooding by hand and running off some extra into the tray and sucking it up with a wet vac, so I would have needed a 1m tray which costs about £21 and the wet vac, £40 watering can £5 and fabric pots £15 and a sterile new mixing bucket £9 equals about ninety quid.
The coco bricks are £7.50 each so £30 for 4 and mixed with everything.....so about the same as coco + perlite and some clay chipping when filling 64 litres.
I'd go for the Alien Easy Feed system as it has the wider tubes that don't need as much maintenance. After spending to get a good fan and controller T6 to regulate the tent and humidity, it seems natural to regulate the feeding as well, so you have a set table and feed sheet to work from as you fine tune your nutes ratios.
@@tarotthehangman9961 grobucket is the same concept but you can put them in any 5 gallon bucket and even make an irrigation system with an add on
@@ballamaniac6984 GrowBucket sucks because it uses up a gallon of media space in the bottom of the bucket.
Best tip, don't use autopots and struggle with saltbuildup and just topfeed 🙄