the books for teenage boys are on the phone webnovels and manga. more or less theres actually a lot of teenagers that read just not in the places you typically assume.
I don't mean to come off condescending but this is a little funny for a few reason. First of all it's just funny because, before the turn of the century if you said "I read" and you presented a book that was primarily made up of pictures people would laugh at you. While that ridicule wasn't exactly fair, it wasn't based on nothing and reflected the second point, which is if you're reading anything with that many images it's more like reading subtitles than it is like reading literature, your imagination is doing less and less of the heavy lifting, the more slack can be picked up by action, because it's all depicted in illustrations and panels. Definitely not the same. The last point was going to be that webnovel spaces are dominated by women and girls. Because when I looked into it that's what the first result said on Google, and also because one of the first examples of how you would distribute a "webnovel" was... Wattpad. Having said that this looks to be an oversimplification, at best, and truly a lot of webnovel related spaces do indeed skew male, apparently, but this might depend on what you consider to be "a site for webnovels." Because you know... Wattpad...
@@futurestoryteller No offense, but this kind of thinking is why American never created a comics culture anywhere close to that of Japan, why the creator of Batman died broke, and why boys don't read. I'm a firm believer that more boys/men would read if the definition of reading was expanded to things like non-fiction, online text, and yes, comics. Finally, my favorite piece of reading advice is, "Reading should not be seen as a means to an end, but something you enjoying doing for its own sake." If we really want not just boys, but everyone to read more, then we need to stop trying to guilt trip them by extolling the virtues of reading. No one would try and increase TV watching or music listening by using this strategy.
@@jaggonzales4673 Am I meant to believe the Japanese don't read books? Do you think the creator of Batman died broke because there weren't enough people reading Batman comics? Seriously? Reading _is_ reading, but not reading fiction is objectively worse (not as good) for your brain as reading it is. 🤷♂ What do you want me to do about it? It's not a night club, or standardized test, we don't need to lower the barrier to entry to meet quotas because people are struggling to make it through. There are no quotas and they aren't struggling. You can read, right? Just pick up a novel every once in awhile. Also who needs to encourage anyone to listen to more music or watch more TV?
As a teen boy who loves reading and is in a group of other teen boys who love reading, I'm not sure. Something I've noticed is that a lot of the teens who would normally want to read are in the same group of people who would play video games or watch movies, which are very often geared towards a more masculine audience. Something else is that teen boys have a lot of ambition. They often want to be the "very best" at their special interest, and you can't really be the "very best" at reading (at least not tangibly). Another thing is that, of course, reading is considered a very nerdy thing to do. This doesn't stop people from reading, but it does really slow them down during the period they would normally really get into reading. One final thing is that there really aren't a lot of books geared towards teen boys. There are plenty geared towards little boys, and plenty geared towards adults, but nobody seems to want to write for teen boys. This results in most teen boys who read either being stuck with YA meant for girls OR books meant for adults, which makes it that much harder for boys to get into reading.
I'm a straight guy who was one of the many "I don't read" people in my teenage years. I can tell you that a huge reason that reading was unappealing to me then was all of the testosterone jumping around in my system made me hate the idea of sitting down, shutting up, and being patient with a book in my free time. That exact behavior was exhausting to me. It felt much better for me to run around, engage in competition with sports or video games, and exercise. I'm in my 20's now and I've started to enjoy reading more, but this is still true to an extent. I totally agree that men should read more, but it's difficult to expect young men to do quiet, sedentary activities on their own time when we force them to be that way in school for most of the day.
Could be ADHD. I know the OP said she has it, but it's also said to mainfest differently in boys and girls. I don't know if it's right to assume the problem was typical sex hormones.
@@futurestoryteller I understand that ADHD is underdiagnosed, but I haven't really had a problem focusing in my life. I've just needed a healthy amount of time dedicated to non-sedentary, exciting activity. Nowadays that manifests as walks or going to the gym.
As a teen boy, I literally just got extremely invested in Percy Jackson. I read 15 of them in 7 weeks and am still going strong Honestly, as a sort of 'feminine'(?) person who can get extremely invested in a book, I never thought I liked reading until I realised that some of the most immersive experiences I've had were when reading. Like mentioned, being told to do something automatically lowers the interest and value in said thing because it invalidates the fact that a person might actually have wanted to do it in the first place. Reading is such a precious pass-time for me and it's a form of escapism that I can't get via video games or watching shows/scrollong on social media, which is what I assume most teen boys do, now (not saying that I don't enjoy/partake in those things, but reading feels slightly more rewarding in the way you process the information). The part about just disliking reading is very true but even though I believe that there is a book out there for everyone, at the end of the day, you might not find it. Ever. Circling back to the 'feminine' bit: I don't think I've ever experienced the 'reading is feminine' despite knowing about it. It's a big contributor to why I've never felt weird about liking to read, but I also get a social 'pass' since I'm gay Anyway, I'm not sure if any of this actually made any sense or contributed well to the topic of the video, since it's midnight and I've had a long day, but I hope this comment resonates with someone Thanks for reading 😭🙏
When I was a teenager I would read comics and manga Those are "boy books" there are some novels targeted for boys but most are targeted at girls so there's another reason
This is a great video I’m a teen boy who happens to love reading but I can see how people might not like it or view it as a “feminine”activity, even though it shouldn’t be (solely)
As a man that did read in my teens, I do have to say (rather ironically) that reading Ender's Game in grade 6 was really what got me into reading in the first place! It was one of my mom's favourite books, and as a kid, there was something very fun about the idea of the battle school, the conspiracies, and even the politics back on Earth. I also loved the Hunger Games books as a teen. I never considered them particularly feminine, I'll say, mostly because of the focus on the oppression of the Capitol and the growing rebellion. Ooh, and the propaganda and PR focus throughout as well. In my experience, guys tend to value politics, intrigue and war in their novels, and that's why books with a stronger emphasis on world-building tend to do well with us, compared to more contemporary modern 'slice of life' settings. ASOIAF (The Game of Thrones books) are another great example of books men love to read for the intrigue and violence of the world. (In this case, as well as in the Hunger Games, sans Ballad, it goes to show that men can be perfectly fine with female POVs, which is good!)
as a teen boy who has always loved reading (to a fault), i just read adult fiction, because at this point i can't deal with the awful storytelling in a large part of teen and YA and kids books aren't good enough anymore
Obviously, you do you, but there are good YA books out there. Recommendations incoming: "It Takes 1 Second" - Mija J. Keetch (murd3r mystery/tragic romance), "Junk" - Melvin Burgess (coming-of-age, social issue based), "Ace of Spaces" - Faridah Abike-Iyimide (thriller, social issue based), "The Granger Girls" - Lara Jane Robinson (crime thriller), and "The Mystery of Acorn Academy" - Teresa Bassett (thriller/mystery).
@@jaggonzales4673 thanks for the recommendations! what i said about YA was a bit of an overgeneralization for sure, i have read a few good YA books, but most of them aren't for me
Growing up in England in the 2000's I felt that there was quite a lot of books aimed at teenage boys, at least over here. I don't know how well remembered they are today, though.
Well back when I was a kid and before the German education system beat the love of reading (outside of comics, still love those) out of me, I mostly liked either adventure stories or teen horror. I don't know if boys today would like it but I really enjoyed the "Gone" series, "The Dark Tower" and "Artemis Fowl" back when I was around 13 to 14 ish.
Girl, Enders Game was fire. Sure it’s just Ender getting manipulated and tortured into winning the “war” but it’s honestly great sci-fi. The battle room is a cool concept and the way the buggers are described is fascinating. I will admit Orson Scott Card was a bit of a biggot at that time and it shows (now he’s just terrible); his strong suit is more themes and the science in sci-fi and not so much the interpersonal relationshipsin his books. Having read the book in my twenties, I don’t think this book is for middle schoolers. Having to make an essay on why Ender is smart just misses the subtext of the book, and Im sure many teen boys will find the battle school “cool” despite the obvious. And not to mention the sequel Speaker for the Dead (it’s even better). Tldr: the sci-fi and themes are strong even if the characters aren’t, and this book is probably not for middle schoolers.
If you want boys to read then you’ve got to retool the schools to be more oriented towards unstructured recreational reading wherein they are permitted to choose their own books and then are provided with a congenial space in which to unwind while reading in comfortable chairs as opposed to school desks. But that of course will never happen because foolish people assume that everything the kids do needs to be controlled by boring adults such as teachers.
once my little brother reaches his teens, ill encourage him to read more. its okay if he doesnt since reading is not for everyone. my other little brother who is 13 doesnt read anymore so thats sad to see.
I don't know, at least start with the Communist Manifesto before diving straight into Das Kapital. Really, Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations might be a better starting place to get important context for Marx!
As an average teen boy i would say you got most of it down. Ive never read a book on my phone because why should I? Its not made of paper and my teacher isn't forcing me too. I think it also has to do with social media and the easy to get dopamine. Why use brain power to read when i can just scroll through videos?
This is definitely a good point, trying to think of any and all I have are Cherub and Alex Rider, teenage spy thrillers. Which yeah, good enough reads but definitely very pro values you might disagree with if you're at all on the left.
Just from the titles you gave, and vague, politicized way you described them, they sound absolutely awful. Maybe we _shouldn't_ target male demographics until they're older, if this is what they'll be getting otherwise.
Are kids reading Red Rising and that series? I think teen boys would like those. Definitely written for them. They feel a little bit like just a Hunger Games remix for a while but take enough of their own route. Not as good as the hunger games but in terms of YA-action lit, I’m not sure anything is.
Me in middle school being told to read a book: Opens up harry potter, very interested but largely stops after 3 chapters. Me in middle school finding a book online: Finds obscure computer programming books from the 80s, biblical apocrypha (poorly translated), miyamoto musashi's philisophical notes, histories of real life ninjas and railroads, endless amounts of my little pony fanfiction. Devours them. I realized later on that it's just I have trouble reading narratives of this person said that and that person said this, instead I like to read something that I can imagine myself applying or doing, that can explain life, or that can at least make the world seem a little more interesting. Written fiction for the sake of being fiction just tips my suspension of disbelief too far. And if the fictional world was dystopian or scary as the case was with alot of young adult fiction, I really wouldn't want to engage with it. Why should I care about Katniss and the Hunger Games? Why would somebody make a Hunger Games? Why would somebody want to make a Hunger Games? I certainly wouldn't want to live through the Hunger Games. Meanwhile Jules Verne writing chapters upon chapters about ocean life to be seen from the Nautilus is interesting, yes Captain Nemo is a deeply disturbed pained character, but he is essentially the antagonist, and the whistful curious self insert for Verne of Prof. Arronax is a much more relatable main character for me. While spectacle in stories might be great for most, it really only sticks with me if it is visual or audible or even just believable. I don't believe the hunger games would ever happen. There, now I have no connection with the story or it's characters. Meanwhile if content holds more weight than mere spectacle, it might feel like it is worth reading about. (but what about the my little pony fanfiction) ahem well um... that one is the exception of course haha...
Guess you're not a very artistic person but rather a very technical one. I can somewhat understand but it feels bizarre to think that someone simply doesn't like stories. I think you should read the hunger games to answer all your questions
@@timrosswood4259 Well technical yes, but I don't believe that I'm not artistic, the study of visual arts, architecture, poems, music, and of course the beautiful short stories to be found in so many vocaloid songs were well on my list of enjoyments. But yes long form fictional narratives just didn't appeal to me. So I suppose it's partly an attention issue, but attention to what is the dividing line, attention to entertainment or attention to educational value. Take for example Verne's the Blockade Runners, it's a great short story I loved it, but it's extremely short though, I would very likely not read a novel that revolves around those characters. For the longest time I thought it was purely an attention issue, but then of course if it were purely an attention issue I would not have spent so much time on material objectively more boring, a funny example that I can think of is if they made a book about Olivander Makes a Wand. And like 60% of the book was detailing the craft of wand making and 40% of the book was a young Olivander's early adventures and origin story. My 12 year old mind would have loved it. But for most people I think that would be incredibly boring.
Wow. What a deep dive. (Sorry.) No. It's actually fairly simple to the point of being banal. Complete corporate takeover of the publishing industry by women. If men were still in charge of it, you'd be here asking why there aren't any books for teen girls. There are other explanations of course, but this is usually given as the explanation for a lack of parity in male dominated industries, and for good reason, so I can't see why the assumption should be any different here. My brother read the book "Hatchet." There was the "Harry Potter" series, which was seen as gender neutral, if not fem-leaning for... no discernable reason, and I remember reading "Holes." And my brother really liked Ender's Game, which would probably be classified as YA now, due to the age of the protagonist. Frankly, it could be a mythologization, but it seems like most people will tell you that YA as a "genre" of literature started with Hunger Games, and that prior to that books were considered to be either "for adults" or "for children" and there was only a passing interest regarding what age precisely a book should be marketed toward. Especially since anything that wasn't a picture book for small children was thought of as literature either way, and as such rarely saw much editing for content. The idea that a book could appeal to people as young as 12 and at least as old as 29 was taken for granted I guess, in this way, but perhaps not truly exploited as a consumer target until much later. When Hunger Games came around, the target they painted around that hail of arrows looked very much to be in the shape of a young woman. So it's a typical self fullfilling prophecy: Hey! Girls buy books!? Let's sell books to girls! Look at that! They buy so many books! They must want more books! Here you go! Books for girls! Hey how come boys aren't buying our books?
This is something I've heard about -- The fact that a majority of books are purchased by women. Men mainly consume science fiction and fantasy. It makes sense that in a market of mainly women, books are made for women. I wonder if we'll get the DEI people to start pushing men into books for the purpose of equity XD
I'd like to clarify that I believe all books are for everyone, I just wanted the title to be different from the thumbnail.
the books for teenage boys are on the phone webnovels and manga. more or less theres actually a lot of teenagers that read just not in the places you typically assume.
I don't mean to come off condescending but this is a little funny for a few reason. First of all it's just funny because, before the turn of the century if you said "I read" and you presented a book that was primarily made up of pictures people would laugh at you. While that ridicule wasn't exactly fair, it wasn't based on nothing and reflected the second point, which is if you're reading anything with that many images it's more like reading subtitles than it is like reading literature, your imagination is doing less and less of the heavy lifting, the more slack can be picked up by action, because it's all depicted in illustrations and panels. Definitely not the same. The last point was going to be that webnovel spaces are dominated by women and girls. Because when I looked into it that's what the first result said on Google, and also because one of the first examples of how you would distribute a "webnovel" was... Wattpad. Having said that this looks to be an oversimplification, at best, and truly a lot of webnovel related spaces do indeed skew male, apparently, but this might depend on what you consider to be "a site for webnovels." Because you know... Wattpad...
@@futurestoryteller No offense, but this kind of thinking is why American never created a comics culture anywhere close to that of Japan, why the creator of Batman died broke, and why boys don't read. I'm a firm believer that more boys/men would read if the definition of reading was expanded to things like non-fiction, online text, and yes, comics. Finally, my favorite piece of reading advice is, "Reading should not be seen as a means to an end, but something you enjoying doing for its own sake." If we really want not just boys, but everyone to read more, then we need to stop trying to guilt trip them by extolling the virtues of reading. No one would try and increase TV watching or music listening by using this strategy.
@@jaggonzales4673 Am I meant to believe the Japanese don't read books? Do you think the creator of Batman died broke because there weren't enough people reading Batman comics? Seriously?
Reading _is_ reading, but not reading fiction is objectively worse (not as good) for your brain as reading it is. 🤷♂ What do you want me to do about it? It's not a night club, or standardized test, we don't need to lower the barrier to entry to meet quotas because people are struggling to make it through. There are no quotas and they aren't struggling. You can read, right? Just pick up a novel every once in awhile.
Also who needs to encourage anyone to listen to more music or watch more TV?
As a teen boy who loves reading and is in a group of other teen boys who love reading, I'm not sure. Something I've noticed is that a lot of the teens who would normally want to read are in the same group of people who would play video games or watch movies, which are very often geared towards a more masculine audience. Something else is that teen boys have a lot of ambition. They often want to be the "very best" at their special interest, and you can't really be the "very best" at reading (at least not tangibly). Another thing is that, of course, reading is considered a very nerdy thing to do. This doesn't stop people from reading, but it does really slow them down during the period they would normally really get into reading.
One final thing is that there really aren't a lot of books geared towards teen boys. There are plenty geared towards little boys, and plenty geared towards adults, but nobody seems to want to write for teen boys. This results in most teen boys who read either being stuck with YA meant for girls OR books meant for adults, which makes it that much harder for boys to get into reading.
I'm a straight guy who was one of the many "I don't read" people in my teenage years. I can tell you that a huge reason that reading was unappealing to me then was all of the testosterone jumping around in my system made me hate the idea of sitting down, shutting up, and being patient with a book in my free time. That exact behavior was exhausting to me. It felt much better for me to run around, engage in competition with sports or video games, and exercise.
I'm in my 20's now and I've started to enjoy reading more, but this is still true to an extent.
I totally agree that men should read more, but it's difficult to expect young men to do quiet, sedentary activities on their own time when we force them to be that way in school for most of the day.
Could be ADHD. I know the OP said she has it, but it's also said to mainfest differently in boys and girls. I don't know if it's right to assume the problem was typical sex hormones.
@@futurestoryteller I understand that ADHD is underdiagnosed, but I haven't really had a problem focusing in my life. I've just needed a healthy amount of time dedicated to non-sedentary, exciting activity. Nowadays that manifests as walks or going to the gym.
As a teen boy, I literally just got extremely invested in Percy Jackson. I read 15 of them in 7 weeks and am still going strong
Honestly, as a sort of 'feminine'(?) person who can get extremely invested in a book, I never thought I liked reading until I realised that some of the most immersive experiences I've had were when reading. Like mentioned, being told to do something automatically lowers the interest and value in said thing because it invalidates the fact that a person might actually have wanted to do it in the first place.
Reading is such a precious pass-time for me and it's a form of escapism that I can't get via video games or watching shows/scrollong on social media, which is what I assume most teen boys do, now (not saying that I don't enjoy/partake in those things, but reading feels slightly more rewarding in the way you process the information).
The part about just disliking reading is very true but even though I believe that there is a book out there for everyone, at the end of the day, you might not find it. Ever.
Circling back to the 'feminine' bit: I don't think I've ever experienced the 'reading is feminine' despite knowing about it. It's a big contributor to why I've never felt weird about liking to read, but I also get a social 'pass' since I'm gay
Anyway, I'm not sure if any of this actually made any sense or contributed well to the topic of the video, since it's midnight and I've had a long day, but I hope this comment resonates with someone
Thanks for reading 😭🙏
Teen boys are incredibly engaged in doing the opposite of what people want from them
what do people want from them?
When I was a teenager I would read comics and manga
Those are "boy books" there are some novels targeted for boys but most are targeted at girls so there's another reason
This is a great video I’m a teen boy who happens to love reading but I can see how people might not like it or view it as a “feminine”activity, even though it shouldn’t be (solely)
As a man that did read in my teens, I do have to say (rather ironically) that reading Ender's Game in grade 6 was really what got me into reading in the first place! It was one of my mom's favourite books, and as a kid, there was something very fun about the idea of the battle school, the conspiracies, and even the politics back on Earth.
I also loved the Hunger Games books as a teen. I never considered them particularly feminine, I'll say, mostly because of the focus on the oppression of the Capitol and the growing rebellion. Ooh, and the propaganda and PR focus throughout as well. In my experience, guys tend to value politics, intrigue and war in their novels, and that's why books with a stronger emphasis on world-building tend to do well with us, compared to more contemporary modern 'slice of life' settings. ASOIAF (The Game of Thrones books) are another great example of books men love to read for the intrigue and violence of the world. (In this case, as well as in the Hunger Games, sans Ballad, it goes to show that men can be perfectly fine with female POVs, which is good!)
as a teen boy who has always loved reading (to a fault), i just read adult fiction, because at this point i can't deal with the awful storytelling in a large part of teen and YA and kids books aren't good enough anymore
Obviously, you do you, but there are good YA books out there. Recommendations incoming: "It Takes 1 Second" - Mija J. Keetch (murd3r mystery/tragic romance), "Junk" - Melvin Burgess (coming-of-age, social issue based), "Ace of Spaces" - Faridah Abike-Iyimide (thriller, social issue based), "The Granger Girls" - Lara Jane Robinson (crime thriller), and "The Mystery of Acorn Academy" - Teresa Bassett (thriller/mystery).
@@jaggonzales4673 thanks for the recommendations! what i said about YA was a bit of an overgeneralization for sure, i have read a few good YA books, but most of them aren't for me
Growing up in England in the 2000's I felt that there was quite a lot of books aimed at teenage boys, at least over here. I don't know how well remembered they are today, though.
Well back when I was a kid and before the German education system beat the love of reading (outside of comics, still love those) out of me, I mostly liked either adventure stories or teen horror. I don't know if boys today would like it but I really enjoyed the "Gone" series, "The Dark Tower" and "Artemis Fowl" back when I was around 13 to 14 ish.
Any teen boy. Read 50 Cent Playground. I'm reading it and it's the one book I actually enjoy.
Girl, Enders Game was fire. Sure it’s just Ender getting manipulated and tortured into winning the “war” but it’s honestly great sci-fi. The battle room is a cool concept and the way the buggers are described is fascinating. I will admit Orson Scott Card was a bit of a biggot at that time and it shows (now he’s just terrible); his strong suit is more themes and the science in sci-fi and not so much the interpersonal relationshipsin his books.
Having read the book in my twenties, I don’t think this book is for middle schoolers. Having to make an essay on why Ender is smart just misses the subtext of the book, and Im sure many teen boys will find the battle school “cool” despite the obvious.
And not to mention the sequel Speaker for the Dead (it’s even better).
Tldr: the sci-fi and themes are strong even if the characters aren’t, and this book is probably not for middle schoolers.
If you want boys to read then you’ve got to retool the schools to be more oriented towards unstructured recreational reading wherein they are permitted to choose their own books and then are provided with a congenial space in which to unwind while reading in comfortable chairs as opposed to school desks. But that of course will never happen because foolish people assume that everything the kids do needs to be controlled by boring adults such as teachers.
They used to be called comic books
once my little brother reaches his teens, ill encourage him to read more. its okay if he doesnt since reading is not for everyone. my other little brother who is 13 doesnt read anymore so thats sad to see.
Here is a few books for teen boys :
- Percy Jackson
- Das Kapital
- Tobie Lolness
- The Knights of Emerald
- Artemis Fowl
I don't know, at least start with the Communist Manifesto before diving straight into Das Kapital. Really, Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations might be a better starting place to get important context for Marx!
@@Wolfram-Hart Oh yeah, of course ! My edition was a Marx compilation so I tend to forget all the introduction stuff.
Good video, but I'm not going to forgive you for your comments on Enders Game.
Yeah, I think you need to reread Ender's Game cuz that's not the message I got from it. One of my favorite books by far
To be fair tho, I DO NOT think Ender's Game was intended for 8th grade...
As an average teen boy i would say you got most of it down. Ive never read a book on my phone because why should I? Its not made of paper and my teacher isn't forcing me too. I think it also has to do with social media and the easy to get dopamine. Why use brain power to read when i can just scroll through videos?
This is definitely a good point, trying to think of any and all I have are Cherub and Alex Rider, teenage spy thrillers. Which yeah, good enough reads but definitely very pro values you might disagree with if you're at all on the left.
Just from the titles you gave, and vague, politicized way you described them, they sound absolutely awful. Maybe we _shouldn't_ target male demographics until they're older, if this is what they'll be getting otherwise.
Are kids reading Red Rising and that series? I think teen boys would like those. Definitely written for them. They feel a little bit like just a Hunger Games remix for a while but take enough of their own route. Not as good as the hunger games but in terms of YA-action lit, I’m not sure anything is.
@@thehousecat93 I don't know, it's been a good few years now since I knew what kids where reading.
@@futurestoryteller Or maybe we do, just with books that aren't abut teenage spies that make spying look like a goid thing for good people.
Me in middle school being told to read a book: Opens up harry potter, very interested but largely stops after 3 chapters.
Me in middle school finding a book online: Finds obscure computer programming books from the 80s, biblical apocrypha (poorly translated), miyamoto musashi's philisophical notes, histories of real life ninjas and railroads, endless amounts of my little pony fanfiction. Devours them.
I realized later on that it's just I have trouble reading narratives of this person said that and that person said this, instead I like to read something that I can imagine myself applying or doing, that can explain life, or that can at least make the world seem a little more interesting. Written fiction for the sake of being fiction just tips my suspension of disbelief too far. And if the fictional world was dystopian or scary as the case was with alot of young adult fiction, I really wouldn't want to engage with it. Why should I care about Katniss and the Hunger Games? Why would somebody make a Hunger Games? Why would somebody want to make a Hunger Games? I certainly wouldn't want to live through the Hunger Games. Meanwhile Jules Verne writing chapters upon chapters about ocean life to be seen from the Nautilus is interesting, yes Captain Nemo is a deeply disturbed pained character, but he is essentially the antagonist, and the whistful curious self insert for Verne of Prof. Arronax is a much more relatable main character for me. While spectacle in stories might be great for most, it really only sticks with me if it is visual or audible or even just believable. I don't believe the hunger games would ever happen. There, now I have no connection with the story or it's characters. Meanwhile if content holds more weight than mere spectacle, it might feel like it is worth reading about.
(but what about the my little pony fanfiction) ahem well um... that one is the exception of course haha...
Guess you're not a very artistic person but rather a very technical one. I can somewhat understand but it feels bizarre to think that someone simply doesn't like stories. I think you should read the hunger games to answer all your questions
@@timrosswood4259 Well technical yes, but I don't believe that I'm not artistic, the study of visual arts, architecture, poems, music, and of course the beautiful short stories to be found in so many vocaloid songs were well on my list of enjoyments. But yes long form fictional narratives just didn't appeal to me. So I suppose it's partly an attention issue, but attention to what is the dividing line, attention to entertainment or attention to educational value. Take for example Verne's the Blockade Runners, it's a great short story I loved it, but it's extremely short though, I would very likely not read a novel that revolves around those characters. For the longest time I thought it was purely an attention issue, but then of course if it were purely an attention issue I would not have spent so much time on material objectively more boring, a funny example that I can think of is if they made a book about Olivander Makes a Wand. And like 60% of the book was detailing the craft of wand making and 40% of the book was a young Olivander's early adventures and origin story. My 12 year old mind would have loved it. But for most people I think that would be incredibly boring.
I mean, i guess it's just a cultural thing. I'm a male webnovel writer but i don't necessarily read either do i dont know. Also ur mic is pretty low
thats an interesting question.
You want to tell me why my comments were removed?
Wow. What a deep dive. (Sorry.) No. It's actually fairly simple to the point of being banal. Complete corporate takeover of the publishing industry by women. If men were still in charge of it, you'd be here asking why there aren't any books for teen girls.
There are other explanations of course, but this is usually given as the explanation for a lack of parity in male dominated industries, and for good reason, so I can't see why the assumption should be any different here.
My brother read the book "Hatchet." There was the "Harry Potter" series, which was seen as gender neutral, if not fem-leaning for... no discernable reason, and I remember reading "Holes." And my brother really liked Ender's Game, which would probably be classified as YA now, due to the age of the protagonist. Frankly, it could be a mythologization, but it seems like most people will tell you that YA as a "genre" of literature started with Hunger Games, and that prior to that books were considered to be either "for adults" or "for children" and there was only a passing interest regarding what age precisely a book should be marketed toward. Especially since anything that wasn't a picture book for small children was thought of as literature either way, and as such rarely saw much editing for content. The idea that a book could appeal to people as young as 12 and at least as old as 29 was taken for granted I guess, in this way, but perhaps not truly exploited as a consumer target until much later. When Hunger Games came around, the target they painted around that hail of arrows looked very much to be in the shape of a young woman.
So it's a typical self fullfilling prophecy: Hey! Girls buy books!? Let's sell books to girls! Look at that! They buy so many books! They must want more books! Here you go! Books for girls! Hey how come boys aren't buying our books?
This is something I've heard about -- The fact that a majority of books are purchased by women. Men mainly consume science fiction and fantasy. It makes sense that in a market of mainly women, books are made for women. I wonder if we'll get the DEI people to start pushing men into books for the purpose of equity XD
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