HAHA!! I thought I was the only one who had a bunch of partial canisters left behind. I have the same Jet Boil for the last about 15 years. This is some interesting feedback Matt. I might just have to try out the gas one. Thank you.
Hey Matt, I ended up going back to my old propane unit as my MSR bottle leaked gas all in my pannier, plus I figured that having 1 litre of fuel was really not going to do me any good for a back up especially if I had used some of it for cooking. From a space point of view it does not really take up much more than the MSR bottle and I can refill those little green bottles with an adaptor I got. You don't have to worry about the low pressure and heats up pretty quickly. I also carry a little Emberlit stove and a fire cube if there are no sticks around.
I just picked up one if those fire stoves. I carry my MSR bottle in a carrier outside the pannier for reason you just described. I need to look into the refill adapter. Thanks.
good video! If it's really cold... I sleep with my screw-on Iso-butane canisters... they'll work pretty good in the morning!.... I haven't tried one yet but they also make a female-female valve to transfer the fuel from one canister to another.... there are a few youtube videos on how to do it properly... looks pretty straight forward!
@@advmatt LOL ...wrap them in a fleece jacket or the jacket you're not wearing and put it down past your feet!... that difference will be coffee or no coffee in the morning
@advmatt the adapter worked for me. They also can let you refill from other tank styles. However, I like the idea of a gasoline burner for the reasons you mentioned. Packing the multifuel stove has always been a frustration for me, though. Still working on that.
I just did some cold camping with my canister stove. My solution was to pre-warm the canister. I kept in my jacket for a few minutes while getting everything ready. I agree though. There are better solutions for near freezing temps
Primus Omnifuel is bombproof. I have run mine on kerosene, diesel (#1 and #2), white gas / naptha / coleman fuel, canister gas, unleaded. I saw what you call "cooking" on your other video, so that might be overkill since you could do with a jetboil or the chinese clone knockoffs for $40. The MSR is far more complex and far more finicky than the Primus. I have looked at the Whisperlite, the Dragonfly, and some others. In terms of burning clean, the kerosene is as clean burning as coleman fuel. It has the advantage of giving you the best volume / btu of your fuels. Meaning, a liter of kero will give you more BTUs than a liter of gasoline. For cold weather cooking, you want to find Isobutane or Propane blends. Keep the stove canister in your tent at night, but the butane will no boil off at temps around 32F. Isobutane is good to maybe 10F, but propane is good for below that. Priming your liquid fuel stove is best done with either ethanol or methanol. I prefer methanol. If you prime with the coleman fuel, your stuff gets all sooty. A little flip top squirt bottle holds enough to prime many many times. The other option is the classic Svea 123. Runs on white gas, super compact, still outputs about 8000 btu / hr which is great. Self contained. Literally end of the world type stove used on the most remote expeditions ever done. I would find an older one that was actually swedish made because the new in box ones sold currently aren't quite the same quality. Can be found for maybe $120 on ebay.
@@AceBambam yeah, maybe, 3 days. My experience has been the 20oz fuel bottle last longer than the medium sized canister, but it is not as easy to refill when traveling.
MSR "Dragonfly" the best stove out there. Runs perfectly on any type of gasoline. I've had the same stove for 19 years.
Do you always use gasoline? Low octane with ethanol or high octane with no ethanol?
HAHA!! I thought I was the only one who had a bunch of partial canisters left behind. I have the same Jet Boil for the last about 15 years. This is some interesting feedback Matt. I might just have to try out the gas one. Thank you.
Hey Matt, I ended up going back to my old propane unit as my MSR bottle leaked gas all in my pannier, plus I figured that having 1 litre of fuel was really not going to do me any good for a back up especially if I had used some of it for cooking. From a space point of view it does not really take up much more than the MSR bottle and I can refill those little green bottles with an adaptor I got. You don't have to worry about the low pressure and heats up pretty quickly. I also carry a little Emberlit stove and a fire cube if there are no sticks around.
I just picked up one if those fire stoves. I carry my MSR bottle in a carrier outside the pannier for reason you just described. I need to look into the refill adapter. Thanks.
@@advmatt here is a link to the one that I got. You may be able to get it cheaper on Amazon now though...gearmeupnow.com/products/the-easy-fill
good video! If it's really cold... I sleep with my screw-on Iso-butane canisters... they'll work pretty good in the morning!.... I haven't tried one yet but they also make a female-female valve to transfer the fuel from one canister to another.... there are a few youtube videos on how to do it properly... looks pretty straight forward!
I need to check the adapter out. Thanks for the info. I dont think I want canisters in my bag.... Cheers
@@advmatt LOL ...wrap them in a fleece jacket or the jacket you're not wearing and put it down past your feet!... that difference will be coffee or no coffee in the morning
@advmatt the adapter worked for me. They also can let you refill from other tank styles. However, I like the idea of a gasoline burner for the reasons you mentioned. Packing the multifuel stove has always been a frustration for me, though. Still working on that.
I just did some cold camping with my canister stove. My solution was to pre-warm the canister. I kept in my jacket for a few minutes while getting everything ready. I agree though. There are better solutions for near freezing temps
Very helpful! Thanks.
I just use a homemade alcohol stove. It is slow, but I'm not rushing when I'm camping.
That's a great moto camping stove. I have issues with slowing down, a stove like this might help. Thanks
Primus Omnifuel is bombproof. I have run mine on kerosene, diesel (#1 and #2), white gas / naptha / coleman fuel, canister gas, unleaded. I saw what you call "cooking" on your other video, so that might be overkill since you could do with a jetboil or the chinese clone knockoffs for $40. The MSR is far more complex and far more finicky than the Primus. I have looked at the Whisperlite, the Dragonfly, and some others. In terms of burning clean, the kerosene is as clean burning as coleman fuel. It has the advantage of giving you the best volume / btu of your fuels. Meaning, a liter of kero will give you more BTUs than a liter of gasoline.
For cold weather cooking, you want to find Isobutane or Propane blends. Keep the stove canister in your tent at night, but the butane will no boil off at temps around 32F. Isobutane is good to maybe 10F, but propane is good for below that.
Priming your liquid fuel stove is best done with either ethanol or methanol. I prefer methanol. If you prime with the coleman fuel, your stuff gets all sooty. A little flip top squirt bottle holds enough to prime many many times.
The other option is the classic Svea 123. Runs on white gas, super compact, still outputs about 8000 btu / hr which is great. Self contained. Literally end of the world type stove used on the most remote expeditions ever done. I would find an older one that was actually swedish made because the new in box ones sold currently aren't quite the same quality. Can be found for maybe $120 on ebay.
Thanks for all if information. I will look at the multi fuel stoves.
the 20 oz bottle could last you a week?
Yes, but only if I used it for boiling water and not preparing complicated meals.
@@advmatt oh, cause I like to cook stews and rice with about 4 people with me, i'm guessing it could last 2 days that way?
@@AceBambam yeah, maybe, 3 days. My experience has been the 20oz fuel bottle last longer than the medium sized canister, but it is not as easy to refill when traveling.
@@advmatt thanks cause i hate the idea of producing so much trash from the empty canisters, anyway we could always carry a refill container
@@advmatt hello last question how many grams is the "medium canister" you are referring to?
the canisters are one time use. That rubs me the wrong way.
Me too.