Thanks for talking about it. I feel like during the past week they've taken a different approach and started being stingy and taking stuff away from us... I hate this.
Great video, I did not notice that the Ancient Summons were removed. Also, really liked how you spoke and presented the situation. I am a low spender myself, and have never spent on Ancients, I don’t believe your return on cash is worth it, $5 per summon is just too much. Anyway, I agree with you, it is very unfortunate that it was removed, and an extra 2 Ancients per week from the this event won’t stop whales from spending more money. In the end, Moonton’s goal is to optimize revenue, however, they do not to make sure it does not alienate the player base, otherwise the game ecosystem will get impacted, and as you’ve mentioned, players will leave. Unnecessary move on their part, thanks for bringing it to everyone’s attention.
I agree with all of your points, particularly regarding whale spending which I think Brave Conquest ancients had no impact on. Ultimately I think less ancients for low spending accounts is probably more impactful to their bottom line if those folks don't stick around in the game as long as they might have. I don't know that this change causes that all on it's own, but if they begin to move in this direction (i.e. less free rewards in general) then it could be problematic long term.
Very well could be - the timing made me wonder if they didn't make as much money off of the ancient banners during the anniversary as they thought they would.
That's right Because I am totally F2P and I got 3 legendary heroes Ajax+Kaede+ Jeera from the last banner. My chances simply boosted from 5 to 20+ crystals a month. Now they deprived everyone and new players will have a terrible time to progress@@BluntgutsGaming
If their logic is that GB2 gives ancients they aren't thinking about their whole player base. That game mode is meant to be difficult and to get the best chance at the ancients you need to score high which requires certain heroes and gear. If they wanted to reduce the number of ancients people are getting, they could have made the Brave Conquest less frequent and leave the rewards as they were - then at least everybody gets a chance. It's just a bad look all around and really makes me dubious about the future of the game. I hope they listen and revert this.
Yep, thank you for adding this to the conversation! I come at all of my content from an endgame perspective, so I don't see what the rewards look like at the lower levels of GB2. Unfortunately I saw this kind of thing happen in Raid: Shadow Legends first hand and it really drove me away from the game. Over time the points requirement was increased while the quality of rewards dropped. That's why I think it's important that people let Moonton know that they don't like this change, even if it does not get reverted then at least they'll think twice about doing something similar in the future.
@@BluntgutsGaming Appreciate you coming out with this video! The more attention that can be drawn to this the better. I came from Raid as well - one of the reasons I left was because it was harder and harder to accomplish anything without spending. I sounded off on the official discord and upvoted all the others. Hopefully if we make enough noise they will reconsider this change.
Honestly they pulled this like a rug from under my feet I’m literally at 190 pity for ancients was banking on this, void rift guild boss, semerah and daily login to hit lord pity for Praetus.
Yeah that's really rough, I don't normally advocate spending but I might in that case. I hope you get lucky, I'm going for my last shot at it tomorrow night as well!!
Yep, and there are several ancient exclusive heroes that are EXCEPTIONAL there, not to mention lords that really enable different team comps in that game mode. This hurts newer accounts more than developed ones without a doubt.
they didn't create that for new players😂 that's how the game goes! what do you want a week old acc can already do the higher stage event instantly without grinding hard?
I take your point but the issue here is that Brave Conquest was relatively accessible to younger accounts, whereas if they removed the Brave Conquest ancients because they were now providing more ancients via GB2 then that really undercuts younger accounts. Granted this was just a thought I had, and in no way shape or form do I know that that was Moonton's logic for the change
@@datuez4396 I get GB2 is for more advanced players. I’ve been playing for about 6 months and I can’t crack 7.2k on Apoc 1 using both runs. This game rewards players a ton but this was a slap to early to mid game accounts and non spenders.
Plus the fact that they're hiding the best buys. There's a 9999 wgold with 30+ Ancient summons. Only available once you've reached a certain amount of top up. Maybe they set it as a mileage which is just ridiculous, why not make those best buys be availabe regardless of how much you've already spent in game.. Moonton is kinda selfish + greedy 😂
1000%! The only chance you have to buy ancients at a relatively low price, which I'd say is around $3 each, is gated behind heavy spending. Even at $3/ancient long run average means you're spending $150 per Legendary pulled on these banners. ~12-16 per month means that on average you're getting 1-1.5 legos per year from Brave Conquest.
If MoonToon wants to earn more money they should make new skins just like in Mobile Legends ( to those who doesn't know MoonToon owns ML) the skins there are so expensive but many players are still buying it.
I'm not gonna complain about the loss of ancients. Would I like to have em back absolutely. What chaps my arse is for the last 3 months they have been there, 25% of the time this game has been running, and now they are gone with no communication at all.
Yeah I agree, they need to start communicating these changes to us. People would be far less upset if they had proper warning. Thankfully I woke up to 2 ancient summons in the mail and it seems that they are going to revert the change in future Brave Conquests. I really love that this company listens to the community!
Skill dust is so worthless. Same thing for the goddamn mythic extract and legendary psychic. So annoyed when I receive this from golden nm 3-4 chest. Which is almost every day...
Omg yes, seeing that gold chest pop up is almost always a letdown! I have over a hundred of each and really no need for even a fraction of that number!! It feels like I maybe get something decent (i.e. Divine summon, ancient summon, Lego skill crystal) at most once a week if that. I haven't tracked it so I can't say with any kind of certainty, but it feels way worse
@@BluntgutsGaming Exactly. When it's purple, at least you know you'll probably have 200 diamonds. Sometimes it's like they don't know the value of their own stuff. I feel like those in charge of that part of the game, don't play the game at all. I wish we could press a thousand skill dust into a skill crystal even if it's only once a month.
Yeah that would be amazing. Having conversion for a lot of the lower level resources into actually valuable ones would take the sting out of a lot of these drops!
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Agreed! Bring Ancients back! We need to make fuss about it!
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Thanks for talking about it. I feel like during the past week they've taken a different approach and started being stingy and taking stuff away from us... I hate this.
Yeah it's an odd thing to do right as the anniversary is going on. Hopefully it's just temporary!
Great video, I did not notice that the Ancient Summons were removed. Also, really liked how you spoke and presented the situation.
I am a low spender myself, and have never spent on Ancients, I don’t believe your return on cash is worth it, $5 per summon is just too much.
Anyway, I agree with you, it is very unfortunate that it was removed, and an extra 2 Ancients per week from the this event won’t stop whales from spending more money.
In the end, Moonton’s goal is to optimize revenue, however, they do not to make sure it does not alienate the player base, otherwise the game ecosystem will get impacted, and as you’ve mentioned, players will leave.
Unnecessary move on their part, thanks for bringing it to everyone’s attention.
I agree with all of your points, particularly regarding whale spending which I think Brave Conquest ancients had no impact on. Ultimately I think less ancients for low spending accounts is probably more impactful to their bottom line if those folks don't stick around in the game as long as they might have. I don't know that this change causes that all on it's own, but if they begin to move in this direction (i.e. less free rewards in general) then it could be problematic long term.
100% agree this was a terrible change. Not convinced this wasn’t to reduce the amount of red summons before Ingrid comes out.
Very well could be - the timing made me wonder if they didn't make as much money off of the ancient banners during the anniversary as they thought they would.
That's right Because I am totally F2P and I got 3 legendary heroes Ajax+Kaede+ Jeera from the last banner. My chances simply boosted from 5 to 20+ crystals a month. Now they deprived everyone and new players will have a terrible time to progress@@BluntgutsGaming
With the amount of people upset they NEED to change this and have good compensation
Looks like Moonton agrees! I woke up to 2 ancient summons in my mailbox and notification that they would change it back in future Brave Conquests!!
Moonton: If Raid can get away with it, so can we…
Thankfully they aren't as obstinate as Plarium, I love the swift response they did on this
If their logic is that GB2 gives ancients they aren't thinking about their whole player base. That game mode is meant to be difficult and to get the best chance at the ancients you need to score high which requires certain heroes and gear. If they wanted to reduce the number of ancients people are getting, they could have made the Brave Conquest less frequent and leave the rewards as they were - then at least everybody gets a chance. It's just a bad look all around and really makes me dubious about the future of the game. I hope they listen and revert this.
Yep, thank you for adding this to the conversation! I come at all of my content from an endgame perspective, so I don't see what the rewards look like at the lower levels of GB2. Unfortunately I saw this kind of thing happen in Raid: Shadow Legends first hand and it really drove me away from the game. Over time the points requirement was increased while the quality of rewards dropped. That's why I think it's important that people let Moonton know that they don't like this change, even if it does not get reverted then at least they'll think twice about doing something similar in the future.
@@BluntgutsGaming Appreciate you coming out with this video! The more attention that can be drawn to this the better.
I came from Raid as well - one of the reasons I left was because it was harder and harder to accomplish anything without spending.
I sounded off on the official discord and upvoted all the others. Hopefully if we make enough noise they will reconsider this change.
Amazing! Yeah that was a big part of why I left Raid too and I do not want to see WoR go down that path
Honestly they pulled this like a rug from under my feet I’m literally at 190 pity for ancients was banking on this, void rift guild boss, semerah and daily login to hit lord pity for Praetus.
Yeah that's really rough, I don't normally advocate spending but I might in that case. I hope you get lucky, I'm going for my last shot at it tomorrow night as well!!
Titanic ruins is not made for early-mid game players. This will discourage newer players to keep playing…
Yep, and there are several ancient exclusive heroes that are EXCEPTIONAL there, not to mention lords that really enable different team comps in that game mode. This hurts newer accounts more than developed ones without a doubt.
they didn't create that for new players😂 that's how the game goes! what do you want a week old acc can already do the higher stage event instantly without grinding hard?
I take your point but the issue here is that Brave Conquest was relatively accessible to younger accounts, whereas if they removed the Brave Conquest ancients because they were now providing more ancients via GB2 then that really undercuts younger accounts. Granted this was just a thought I had, and in no way shape or form do I know that that was Moonton's logic for the change
@@datuez4396 I get GB2 is for more advanced players. I’ve been playing for about 6 months and I can’t crack 7.2k on Apoc 1 using both runs.
This game rewards players a ton but this was a slap to early to mid game accounts and non spenders.
This hurts. I get almost all my ancient summons from BC. Now it will take me a year to get the 100 I need to reach pity…😟
Hopefully this isn't a permanent change!! Sound off on the official discord, let them know how this will impact your experience imo
Torches and pitchforks!!
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!
Plus the fact that they're hiding the best buys. There's a 9999 wgold with 30+ Ancient summons. Only available once you've reached a certain amount of top up. Maybe they set it as a mileage which is just ridiculous, why not make those best buys be availabe regardless of how much you've already spent in game.. Moonton is kinda selfish + greedy 😂
1000%! The only chance you have to buy ancients at a relatively low price, which I'd say is around $3 each, is gated behind heavy spending. Even at $3/ancient long run average means you're spending $150 per Legendary pulled on these banners. ~12-16 per month means that on average you're getting 1-1.5 legos per year from Brave Conquest.
If MoonToon wants to earn more money they should make new skins just like in Mobile Legends ( to those who doesn't know MoonToon owns ML) the skins there are so expensive but many players are still buying it.
Agreed, you don't have to take the fun out of the game to earn more profits
I'm not gonna complain about the loss of ancients. Would I like to have em back absolutely. What chaps my arse is for the last 3 months they have been there, 25% of the time this game has been running, and now they are gone with no communication at all.
Yeah I agree, they need to start communicating these changes to us. People would be far less upset if they had proper warning. Thankfully I woke up to 2 ancient summons in the mail and it seems that they are going to revert the change in future Brave Conquests. I really love that this company listens to the community!
Skill dust is so worthless. Same thing for the goddamn mythic extract and legendary psychic. So annoyed when I receive this from golden nm 3-4 chest. Which is almost every day...
Omg yes, seeing that gold chest pop up is almost always a letdown! I have over a hundred of each and really no need for even a fraction of that number!! It feels like I maybe get something decent (i.e. Divine summon, ancient summon, Lego skill crystal) at most once a week if that. I haven't tracked it so I can't say with any kind of certainty, but it feels way worse
@@BluntgutsGaming Exactly. When it's purple, at least you know you'll probably have 200 diamonds. Sometimes it's like they don't know the value of their own stuff. I feel like those in charge of that part of the game, don't play the game at all. I wish we could press a thousand skill dust into a skill crystal even if it's only once a month.
Yeah that would be amazing. Having conversion for a lot of the lower level resources into actually valuable ones would take the sting out of a lot of these drops!