Good job, and regarding tires, I belive the Skoda Enyaq has: Pirelli Scorpion 235/45 R21 101T XL Elect Energy A - Wett B - Acoustic 69dB and VW ID4 might have: Hankook Ventus S1 EVO3 K127 235/50 R20 100T Energy A - Wett B - Acoustic 69dB Hankook Ventus S1 EVO3 K127 255/45 R20 101T Energy A - Wett B - Acoustic 69dB I might be wrong about this, but it can easily be verified. So yeah, ½dB is not enough difference to conclude anything other than they are very similar in regarding noise. Safety first and my priority is 1. Wet Grip, 2. Rolling Resistance, 3. Rolling Noise So personally I would prefer Energy B - Wett A - Acoustic 69dB, until a tire comes along that is actually Energy A - Wett A - Acoustic 69dB. Apparently there is a new norm for the labels since 1st May 2021 and it will also use Noise classes as well. I could be wrong, but it would seem that A is =< 69dB, B is > 69dB =< 72dB and C is > 72dB. It's very important that when you specify your noises, that you also specify the norm of the tire used. Basically you should adjust the noise measurements. Maybe also wear of the tire, since the noise is most likely louder as the tire gets worn out (unknown factor). I'm sure you are aware of The rolling noise level as a function of vehicle speed (known factor) and keep the same speed and road type (though that is hard to do). "EU Tire Label Tests rolling noise test" th-cam.com/video/NJWBBniKRoc/w-d-xo.html
You are the most thorough car reviewer out there. 👍 I have an idea for good test (at least for family cars) - range test with max declared carry capacity a.k.a trunk full of stuff
Hej Bjørn. Keep up the good work :-) Awesome videoes. If you should choose an electric car between a Tesla Model 3 or the VAG electrics (Enyaq, ID-4, Q4 e-tron), which one would you choose??
It looks like a choice between ID4 and Enyaq comes down entirely to which one subjectively looks better to you. In everything else the differences are microscopic. Will VW and Skoda dealerships service the "other" model?
@@Jstars200 yeah, the interior of Q4, but with the Skoda steering wheel would be the perfect combo. High quality materials, physical buttons for climate control, and physical buttons and scroll wheel on the steering wheel... Hope vw and Audi realize their mistake with the touch controls and correct it for the facelift models.
Nice! Could you add a 100-150 acceleration test in the future? Or maybe 0-130, if the speed limit is a problem. Because I think some cars have a slow start and in reality you accelerate more often from a rolling start.
He is in Norway. National speed limit is 80km/h. Only around 140km of roads have higher limit, some at 90, 100,110 but very very few kilometers of roads at 120. And trust me, you don't want speeding tickets in Norway😛
Why is Tesla Model 3 LR missing in the result tables? Also the other difference between the tested Enyaq and ID.4 was not only the 60kgs, but more importantly the tire sizes.
Because the whole list/table isn't shown here (doesn't fit to the screen). You can find the complete test results throught the link in the video description.
Bjorn, why did you stop making the acceleration test at different states of charge? It is curious even on non-performance oriented cars because it comes to show how the BMS is designed.
He mentioned in an earlier video that he can’t do that for every car because it’s so time consuming. Most people that buy family SUVs don’t care about 0 to 100 times, they care about space, comfort, efficiency, etc. He will continue to do it for the performance variants of the cars he tests, because it’s important to know the impact of SoC on acceleration for high performance cars. I’m sure if there’s an Enyak RS or ID.4 RS/GLI or whatever they market the performance variant as, he will test that using the 90 to 10 percent acceleration tests.
I like those 21" alloys, but they do look like they could get easily damaged; I think I have already spotted some 'kerbing' damage on some of the press Enyaq's. If I get one, my iV80 will also be driven by colleagues, who unfortunately won't be as careful as me. I might have to get the 20" wheels instead to help prevent damage (19" would be better, but they're quite a boring design)
I went for 19" to get more comfort and range also liked design more than those bigger wheels but it's only personal preference. End of all no one sees those wheels when you drive least of all you itself.
@@mr.wizeguy8995 wise words - that’s exactly what my wife says and coincidentally just half an hour ago, I spotted the first bit of kerb damage on my 21” Betria alloys 😫. I’ve since changed my mind about the 19” alloys; I think the Regulus ones look nice and are easier to look after !
Can you add an AVAS test with a low speed driveby to the "noise test" videos
Good job, and regarding tires, I belive the Skoda Enyaq has:
Pirelli Scorpion 235/45 R21 101T XL Elect Energy A - Wett B - Acoustic 69dB
and VW ID4 might have:
Hankook Ventus S1 EVO3 K127 235/50 R20 100T Energy A - Wett B - Acoustic
69dB
Hankook Ventus S1 EVO3 K127 255/45 R20 101T Energy A - Wett B - Acoustic
69dB
I might be wrong about this, but it can easily be verified.
So yeah, ½dB is not enough difference to conclude anything other than
they are very similar in regarding noise.
Safety first and my priority is 1. Wet Grip, 2. Rolling Resistance, 3. Rolling Noise
So personally I would prefer Energy B - Wett A - Acoustic
69dB, until a tire comes along that is actually Energy A - Wett A -
Acoustic 69dB.
Apparently there is a new norm for the labels since 1st May 2021 and it
will also use Noise classes as well. I could be wrong, but it would seem
that A is =< 69dB, B is > 69dB =< 72dB and C is > 72dB.
It's very important that when you specify your noises, that you also
specify the norm of the tire used. Basically you should adjust the noise
measurements. Maybe also wear of the tire, since the noise is most
likely louder as the tire gets worn out (unknown factor).
I'm sure you are aware of The rolling noise level as a function of
vehicle speed (known factor) and keep the same speed and road type
(though that is hard to do).
"EU Tire Label Tests rolling noise test" th-cam.com/video/NJWBBniKRoc/w-d-xo.html
How do you perceive the noise? Is it annoying? Harsh? Or smooth and pleasant?
Tack!👍
You are the most thorough car reviewer out there. 👍 I have an idea for good test (at least for family cars) - range test with max declared carry capacity a.k.a trunk full of stuff
Good idea ; banana box fully loaded test. 😎
@@backwoodsbungalow9674 more like half a ton worth of gym weights :)
Hej Bjørn. Keep up the good work :-) Awesome videoes. If you should choose an electric car between a Tesla Model 3 or the VAG electrics (Enyaq, ID-4, Q4 e-tron), which one would you choose??
I know his answer- Tesla M3
Ioniq 5.
Did Moeller(?) Cars equipped this car with 235 wheels at the back by mistake or intentionally? Do they want to have a better efficiency test result?
I think this must be a mistake. The EU-COC document for the ENYAQ IV 80 has only 255 wheels allowed for the back. Even for winter tyres!
@@plugaroundtheworld Why it should be a mistake only because the papers show it differently? Efficiency test should be repeated with 255.
If i remember correctly the ID4 also had his tyres at too high pressure... Too many mistakes in a row?🧐🧐
Yes, this was a mistake by Møller.
VW tyregate
It looks like a choice between ID4 and Enyaq comes down entirely to which one subjectively looks better to you. In everything else the differences are microscopic. Will VW and Skoda dealerships service the "other" model?
@@Jstars200 yeah, the interior of Q4, but with the Skoda steering wheel would be the perfect combo. High quality materials, physical buttons for climate control, and physical buttons and scroll wheel on the steering wheel... Hope vw and Audi realize their mistake with the touch controls and correct it for the facelift models.
So glad I chose the ID.4 but the Enyaq is nice as well. 😁👍🏼👍🏼
Nice! Could you add a 100-150 acceleration test in the future? Or maybe 0-130, if the speed limit is a problem.
Because I think some cars have a slow start and in reality you accelerate more often from a rolling start.
He is in Norway. National speed limit is 80km/h. Only around 140km of roads have higher limit, some at 90, 100,110 but very very few kilometers of roads at 120. And trust me, you don't want speeding tickets in Norway😛
@@bartlos8424 oh ok, I didn't know that there are so few 120 zones
@@schnitzler32 actually, 120km/h doesn't exist in Norway. 110km/h is the absolute maximum speed that is allowed at 'some' roads.
IV 50/80
55 quattro
400
Can you do any Kia/Hyundai 204HP drive train? ENiro/ESoul/Kona I think they should be all the same more or less.
Already done. Check out my channel.
Bjørn, please do 50 - 100 kmh and 80 - 120 kmh. :)
wow... compared to the Kona the VW/Skoda times are pretty low, given they all got a 150kw motor :o
Why is Tesla Model 3 LR missing in the result tables? Also the other difference between the tested Enyaq and ID.4 was not only the 60kgs, but more importantly the tire sizes.
Because the whole list/table isn't shown here (doesn't fit to the screen). You can find the complete test results throught the link in the video description.
Bjorn what app you use to measure the 0-100 test?
Dragy
Was the test done in sport mode, comfort mode or another?
Sport mode of course.
Bjorn, why did you stop making the acceleration test at different states of charge? It is curious even on non-performance oriented cars because it comes to show how the BMS is designed.
He mentioned in an earlier video that he can’t do that for every car because it’s so time consuming. Most people that buy family SUVs don’t care about 0 to 100 times, they care about space, comfort, efficiency, etc.
He will continue to do it for the performance variants of the cars he tests, because it’s important to know the impact of SoC on acceleration for high performance cars. I’m sure if there’s an Enyak RS or ID.4 RS/GLI or whatever they market the performance variant as, he will test that using the 90 to 10 percent acceleration tests.
I like those 21" alloys, but they do look like they could get easily damaged; I think I have already spotted some 'kerbing' damage on some of the press Enyaq's. If I get one, my iV80 will also be driven by colleagues, who unfortunately won't be as careful as me. I might have to get the 20" wheels instead to help prevent damage (19" would be better, but they're quite a boring design)
I went for 19" to get more comfort and range also liked design more than those bigger wheels but it's only personal preference. End of all no one sees those wheels when you drive least of all you itself.
@@mr.wizeguy8995 wise words - that’s exactly what my wife says and coincidentally just half an hour ago, I spotted the first bit of kerb damage on my 21” Betria alloys 😫. I’ve since changed my mind about the 19” alloys; I think the Regulus ones look nice and are easier to look after !
@@iixorb I still have to wait around 45 week before i get my car if it deliver on time.
Må aldri fylle full tank før en skal teste akselerasjon =)
Same same na kaaaa 🙏
Škoda*