Iconic, Broken, Unplayable: The Fall of Zed

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.พ. 2024
  • Zed is a foundational champion, and a huge part of League of Legends as we know it today.
    But after some serious nerfs, he’s been basically relegated to oblivion for years - and Riot said they had no plans to let Zed terrorize the player base ever again.
    But as frustrating as he might be, is this really the end for League’s most iconic assassin - and what does Zed’s exile say about League as a whole?
    Hosted by: Dimitri Pascaluta (@DPascaluta)
    Written by: Alina Sotula (@ASotula)
    Edited by: Andrew Faigal (@Brrrning)
    Produced by: Alina Sotula, Jason Durante (@JayJay_Durante), Connor Dunn (@ ConnorDunn_), and Danielle Rosen (@_DanielleRosen)
    Thumbnail by: Bennett Grainger (insta:@bennettgrainger)
    Production assistance: Jason Lo (@JasonLobsterr)
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  • @kael9522
    @kael9522 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1506

    “Alright guys how can we put faker’s zed outplay in a new video this time?”

    • @zStC1
      @zStC1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      I'm here for it 😂

    • @ryanweavile
      @ryanweavile 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      "Wait, we never talked about zed itself"

    • @longlifetometal1995
      @longlifetometal1995 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      they're doing it for the meme, let's be real

    • @jgeybp
      @jgeybp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don’t kill me 💀

    • @tristain0
      @tristain0 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      and next vid is a remake of the explanation of that outplay

  • @andreitaker3527
    @andreitaker3527 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +646

    I hate facing zed but he lost so many things that the current version of him is just shadow of himself

    • @ChaosHero17
      @ChaosHero17 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      Pun intended

    • @Rncko
      @Rncko 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      But don't worry, everytime URF arrives....
      The summoners are reminded once again.... OF WHAT THEY FEAR

    • @kedjfj798
      @kedjfj798 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sadqqwwqeq4175 bruh wtf are u even on about lol look at aram stats hes 165/166 currently

    • @vkknoell
      @vkknoell 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@sadqqwwqeq4175 Azir has been buffed in ARAM actually He has -5% damage taken and +2.5 attack speed scaling. In fact, most assassins are bad in ARAM because 1.the average player can't play them well. 2. They fall off a cliff past 15:00 minutes due to accelerated gold gain.

    • @Malam_NightYoru
      @Malam_NightYoru 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Zed and Azir are the complete opposite tho? ​@@sadqqwwqeq4175 Azir is a game changer for full teams, because his kit benefits from the Team Coordination, while Zed benefits from the lack of coordination of the other team.

  • @ecszst.croixe3573
    @ecszst.croixe3573 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +450

    Zed was already struggling back then. His fate was sealed when stopwatch can be built by literally everyone.

    • @itsgonnabeokay9341
      @itsgonnabeokay9341 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Stopwatch got removed though

    • @vherwashere
      @vherwashere 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      remember when qss can also cleanse zeds ult debuff? lol

    • @einjharrelraca
      @einjharrelraca 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      ​@@vherwasheregod i wish we could go back to that. Back when an assassin actually needed to land their full kits to kill a squishy, and couldnt instant kill bruisers/sometimes tanks without being HILLARIOUSLY fed.

    • @yurciq
      @yurciq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      except it didnt? seekers armguard is stopwatch just for few hundreads more, which essentially nerfs zed a lot more, cuz u have armor on seekers too @@itsgonnabeokay9341​

    • @worldsgreatestspy5836
      @worldsgreatestspy5836 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​@@itsgonnabeokay9341Yeah, the armguard replaced it, so nothing changed

  • @ussr7709
    @ussr7709 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +183

    Riot: Nerf zed, keep him weak
    Also riot: *Adds Briar*

    • @agustinmalo6051
      @agustinmalo6051 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      What does Briar have to do with anything? Lmao she actually kinda sucks

    • @ussr7709
      @ussr7709 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      @@agustinmalo6051 no wonder ur silver bro

    • @parks4484
      @parks4484 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Briar isn't good lol She was broken for the first couple weeks then was basically nerfed every patch that followed

    • @vizzyMcExee
      @vizzyMcExee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Also riot: adds Samira
      Also riot: adds naafiri
      Also riot: does nothing about akali after adding stormsurge (the most busted item in this games history)

    • @bradonhassell5567
      @bradonhassell5567 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vizzyMcExeebro doesn’t remember deathfire grasp

  • @theflyingtoaster7414
    @theflyingtoaster7414 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +161

    Off Meta is always good for a game. No matter how many people wish to win effortlessly, there will always be value in someone who know the true thrill and virtue of needing to reload in the middle of battle.
    Revolver Ocelot

    • @adelishernandez1525
      @adelishernandez1525 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nice to find a man of culture once in a while.

    • @geoshukaru6159
      @geoshukaru6159 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      late game disagree with this tho

  • @khueythao
    @khueythao 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +146

    Ryu.. awh shit here we go again

  • @WolfFlow78
    @WolfFlow78 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    The instant Ryu clip. They just can’t stop posting “FAKER WHAT WAS THAT!!”

    • @michaelfetter5413
      @michaelfetter5413 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And it's' amazing the disrespect that DOA got from Riot when he was shoutcasting literally the most iconic pro replay of the entire game's history.

  • @Namelessyas
    @Namelessyas 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Everytime i hear his iconic voice line "The unseen blade is the deadliest" is still giving me chills

  • @tristanafterdark
    @tristanafterdark 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +111

    Can't believe they made another entire video about Zed without including a single Onzed play

    • @hvvppy6102
      @hvvppy6102 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      THANK YOU onzed is such a good zed player.

    • @TheRoyalAegis
      @TheRoyalAegis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      underrated Zed Main i guess but i like him more than Zed99

    • @hvvppy6102
      @hvvppy6102 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@TheRoyalAegis agreed I just like how he’s in high elo and he takes the time to translate to give us info and tips

    • @burgir180
      @burgir180 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheRoyalAegis Isn't Zed99 higher elo most of the time?

    • @TheRoyalAegis
      @TheRoyalAegis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@burgir180 Yeah but it doesn't matter for me, i like Onzed bcs he's entertaining “funny”and he shares a lot of tips and info every games.

  • @Kurosaneuu
    @Kurosaneuu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Such a great video, very detailed and well-made. Zed, Yasuo and even Talon are the champs that get you into League in the first place. Because playing these champs is goddamn Gaming.

  • @zzephi
    @zzephi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

    This champ hasn't been picked in pro for so long, i think even twitch chat forgot the copypasta of "Zed or Bed"

    • @noksss3546
      @noksss3546 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      not being picked in pro doesnt mean a champ is weak

    • @andreitaker3527
      @andreitaker3527 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @noksss3546 I agree. I think the right term is that Zed is not optimal in pro play.

    • @azrrrrrrrr
      @azrrrrrrrr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@andreitaker3527which is such a shame cause he is one of the most fun champs to watch olayed at hugh level

    • @shadowd9810
      @shadowd9810 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@noksss3546 he isn't picked for that exact reason tho. He is very unrewarding because of how weak he is right now so if you actually want to win picking zed is just lowering the chances of ur team winning by 20%

    • @astio8303
      @astio8303 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@shadowd9810 tehere are like ~30 chemps out of over 150 picked on pro play . please stop making zed "weak chempion" noone likes to play against him so he should be out of game

  • @KevinThePengWIN
    @KevinThePengWIN 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That NIP Bjerg scene at the end was nostalgic AF. Thank you for this video

  • @Bedardo12
    @Bedardo12 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I think people have extra nostalgia for him cuz he was THE 1v9 champ back when it was LITERALLY possible to win a game solo

  • @jaybeecaranza9471
    @jaybeecaranza9471 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Remember when his shadow has a scaling AD passive? yeah good times it was

    • @MinteeMusic
      @MinteeMusic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When did they remove it? Lol

  • @CAPTAINCHAOS_
    @CAPTAINCHAOS_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    What's amazing is... I very clearly remember when Zed was brand new. For some reason, "older" champions like Zed never feel old to me if they weren't new after the first two years or so I was playing. For the record, when he was new, Zed was a straight up menace.

    • @Shiro_Sora
      @Shiro_Sora 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Back then, barely anyone had any dash abilities

    • @ledgy69
      @ledgy69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Kha zix and zed on zeds release patch were absolutely bonkers lol

  • @Kevin-qy6qt
    @Kevin-qy6qt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    12:05 still one of LLStylendo's greatest plays. The target focus to the switch onto kataruna for the ignite to going back to kaisa for the q death mark proc. Goddamn

  • @logangardner8874
    @logangardner8874 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember when the masteries were updated and thunderllord was added. Everyone said play fervor on Zed, and to this day I had no idea why. At level 3 I could burst people for 600 damage with the w, e, q, w, auto+passive combo. It felt so good and while it very obviously needed nerfed, I loved it. You will always carry a special place in my heart, Zed, but I don't think I'll ever really get to play you again.

  • @ZedSalvatore
    @ZedSalvatore 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    as someone who's been playing zed since its release, managed to hit rank 1 with him back in 2018, I can be completely honest with you and say zed is no longer able to 1v9 anymore. he completely fell with and lost the ability to win vs most adc's now days, if you're unable to 1v1 and adc while being 3 levels ahead being 5/0 then what am I supposed to do vs fed assassin junglers or tank top laners? what made things worse now is the fact that you cannot build last whisper and black cleaver combined anymore. you're only allowed to pick one. the only way possible for you to win with that champ is to play vs 5 squishies otherwise goodluck time to find a new main.

    • @boogeymanw9643
      @boogeymanw9643 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Damn, what kind of adc we taking about? What champ? In my game, I one shot them with full combo pretty easy. Unless we taking about different game here…

    • @PolarSiren
      @PolarSiren 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love Zed, and I don't care

  • @kentuckyfriedchildren5385
    @kentuckyfriedchildren5385 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    honestly as fun as zed is, you have to do infinitely more work to do damage and actually be able to win games, it sort of feels like unless you are 10/0 you barely do any damage with triple shurikens. It sucks that hitting 3 skillshots usually does less than most other champions point and click abilities. The moment zed actually starts to feel good he gets swiftly nerfed in the next patch.

  • @VenomNightGaming
    @VenomNightGaming 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Wait until you guys look at LeBlanc

  • @joshjoyfitness
    @joshjoyfitness 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That play still gives me goosebumps to this day

  • @azrrrrrrrr
    @azrrrrrrrr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    As Zed main i feel absolutely devastating how they nerfed our laning phase. Watching azirs,oris and ryzes turbo shove us in and poke under turret is no fun and just to know even tho they are bullying you in lane they will outscale you as well. Especially when i remember times those scaling champs were afraid of leaving their turret when playing vs zed.

    • @schutzadful
      @schutzadful 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Zed players are ridiculous. Playing an adc castor who can wipe an entire team with a single combo and is hyper mobile. Riot needs to keep nerfing him.

    • @azrrrrrrrr
      @azrrrrrrrr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @schutzadful *if you are fed. And between now tanky mages,bunch of mobility,healing and shielding champs it is hard to get ahead and much harder to get that fed. And any champ that is fed is obnoxious. Just look at sion or mundo-they take 0 skill,become unkillable and can take 40% of adcs or mages ho with one ability.

    • @astio8303
      @astio8303 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      my man , even now zed is one of the safest and hardrest to play against mid laners, you ryze with 500 range q can poke you out you are doing sth very very wrong. I've played many assasin but whenever i play on lower elo (for example on flex) zed is way to go as its they easiest of all assasin to get lead on. If you are so sure about zed bad laning phase, try other ad assassins and you will change your mind for sure

    • @itsgonnabeokay9341
      @itsgonnabeokay9341 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Skill issue

    • @BlackTecno2
      @BlackTecno2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@azerbeastt there should be almost NO circumstances where a champion can 1v5 an entire team by jumping into all 5 at once. A lot of these clips show that.
      Also, the last person I heard say "tanks unskilled" turned out to be Silver 4. You don't get free wins just because you're playing a more complex champion.

  • @theWolfnMiniatures
    @theWolfnMiniatures 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I want some reference to August and Riot's opinion on Zed to pop up in Arcane. "The god's have taken my power. The god's FEAR my power."

  • @jonwilliams446
    @jonwilliams446 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice fighting street cabinet in thr background

  • @yppx
    @yppx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Genuinely happy they got a prrrrrrrrrrrrrrr play in there

  • @SimonSlav-GameMakingJourney
    @SimonSlav-GameMakingJourney 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These old clips make me sad in a way.

  • @harpogrine
    @harpogrine 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The current state of Zed is the perfect illustration of League's downfall
    Riot wants the game to be fun no matter how bad you play, that's why lane kingdom and snowball potential are decreased more and more to the benefit of scaling and teamfight
    When I started League, having to play vs a Zed was very hard, at lvl 6 it was almost a miracle to keep-up in lane AND survive
    Now if the Zed player doesn't have 5 times the average lobby skill he can't do anything

    • @stefanristic9245
      @stefanristic9245 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      well yeah but its not because riot explicitly nerfed him or anything its because riot gave all mages free mana during laning phase with d ring changes and durability patch before durability patch if you got hit by zeds w e q aa combo without his qs hitting any cs prior to hitting you youd lose 60% of your health now if you try to do the same thing you gonna get your ass kicked so ig riot wants the game to be oriented more towards scaling and less punishable so its easier for the lower elo players to play it

    • @harpogrine
      @harpogrine 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@stefanristic9245 I strongly agree with you

  • @Banana-kb4ln
    @Banana-kb4ln 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Zed won't be played in pro play ever again unless hes META, zed has too much counterplay, hes not consistant, horrible laning phase

  • @this_smitty23
    @this_smitty23 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Top- K'Sante, Rumble, Aatrox, Udyr.
    Jungle - Xin, Maokai, Vi, Rell.
    Mid - Azir, Orianna, Corki, Neeko.
    Bot - Varus, Lucian, Aphelios, Kalista.
    Support - Milio, Nautilus, Rakan, Renata.
    It's pretty much every game or close to it.. The pro play meta is a boring snooze fest compositionally.

    • @khangnguyensongnhat6254
      @khangnguyensongnhat6254 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You forgot Poppy in the jungle but yes, league esports meta is pretty much very stale to watch. It’s basically 5 champions at most for each roles….

    • @Lalaaw
      @Lalaaw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You forgot J4 Bard Ashe Leblanc Jhin Blitz Ornn Renekton Xayah

    • @this_smitty23
      @this_smitty23 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Lalaaw I stuck with the top 4 at the time, it'll change slightly but not by much until patches stop. The meta comps are so boring I get slightly excited to see a low pick champion. Caps on Hwei was nice for instance.

    • @Lalaaw
      @Lalaaw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@this_smitty23 Hwei? Not much as LCK has been using Hwei for a while now.

    • @this_smitty23
      @this_smitty23 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Lalaaw Just looked at the LCK stats, he's been picked mid once to Azirs 39.

  • @hydratingh2010
    @hydratingh2010 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    lets go LL Stylish referenced in the score

  • @albertwang6465
    @albertwang6465 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just can't. No matter how many time I have seen that clip, Ryu's face still cracks me up like no other LMAO

  • @doflamingo3
    @doflamingo3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    first ... the LL Styelish coming hot

  • @alexmarfi7263
    @alexmarfi7263 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shen with chain vest - come at me bro

  • @AlryFireBlade
    @AlryFireBlade 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:35 I feel this so hard xD
    But to be fair, there are more champs where it feels like this. I just say Briar.
    The only thing she does after hitting R is 1 Q.

  • @Sai-wu5ps
    @Sai-wu5ps 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I think I've permabanned zed for 4 years now as a mid main. I don't think I've ever been completely destroyed and felt utterly helpless against that good zed player I played against 4 years ago, maybe I was just bad back then. But i remember vividly just unable to cs or walk up or do anything, and zed would repeat kill me under my tower while escaping flawlessly with his ult that i don't think I've ever felt with any other champ.

    • @guru230
      @guru230 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I used to permaban zed before I picked him up and mastered him. Now I can safely ban the other cancer champs that actually have no counterplay

    • @Sai-wu5ps
      @Sai-wu5ps 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@guru230 I mean, maybe i can deal with him now. Though most of my champ pool in mid lane are also mages so its probably still my best permaban. Then again, I haven't played against one in 4 years, so i wouldn't know. But hes probably alot weaker in lane than 4 years ago. I still believe zed's kit played well is almost no counterplay in a 1v1 tho, every other matchup I've had in lane felt natural with their kills, and if i get solo killed i most of the time just attribute it to myself.

    • @guru230
      @guru230 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Sai-wu5ps Akali is a better permaban than Zed because it's basically the same champ except more braindead and requires no skill. Akali is played a lot more and even dogshit players can have 3 cs/min and still shit on your botlane repeatedly.

    • @lussor1
      @lussor1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@guru230her R does like 600 ealy game

    • @itsgonnabeokay9341
      @itsgonnabeokay9341 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@guru230Did you just say that Akali requires no skill? What rank are you?

  • @imanjx2914
    @imanjx2914 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Next title. Nerfed, Reworked many times : Ryze

  • @T0NI_
    @T0NI_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Zed has been my perma-ban for literally years. I just hate playing (and especially laning) against him, because of how frustrating he is. Because of that, I understand where August is coming from when he says what he says about him.
    My perma-ban switched to Hwei now, though. That champ can go rot, it feels like I'm having to juke and sidestep 3 different champs when I'm against that guy, and my brain just cannot keep up

    • @Mr_Buli
      @Mr_Buli 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are you Veigar main?

    • @T0NI_
      @T0NI_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mr_Buli Nope. Haven't really had a "main" per se in a long time, but I mainly play Xerath, Lux, Tristana, Brand and Anivia when I'm mid

    • @FireWizardGg
      @FireWizardGg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@T0NI_ zed is ur perma-ban bc ur in low elo

    • @T0NI_
      @T0NI_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FireWizardGg okay and?

    • @ghost0861
      @ghost0861 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ur bad
      @@T0NI_

  • @lussor1
    @lussor1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:40 magic of blue buff

  • @viniciuslopesmodena
    @viniciuslopesmodena 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I will be wrong because i dont have means to research right now, mut i remember his ult be like 90% his AD or something, but around season 5~6 riot released draktar, with had basically zed ult in the item, broken you may think, so just to be shure, riot removed 40~60% of zed Ad ult in the itens debut as a counter measure
    After draktar was reworkd, zed never see his ad back again

    • @stefanristic9245
      @stefanristic9245 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the ultimate dmg ratio without any bonus dmg done from his autos qs or es has always been at 100% since champions release until they nerfed it in season 13 as a placebo nerf because community was complaining about the champ way too much so unless youre talking about his old ult passive which would give him 90% of the targets ad if the target dies from his ultimate im not sure what youre exactly talking about here

  • @DjVanillaGuerilla
    @DjVanillaGuerilla 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is this a reupload? I swear I watched a video on Zed with all the same clips like a month ago. Or was that another channel?
    Edit: Checked. Yeah they have another video called "The Truth about Zed". Which is pretty much the exact same video lol.

    • @abunja
      @abunja 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This only adds the confirmation from Riot August that they're intentionally make Zed weak to balance it for low ELOs. The rest is as exactly what you said.

    • @DjVanillaGuerilla
      @DjVanillaGuerilla 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@abunja Yeah, people who play Zed, or stay up to date knows this. Zed isn't the only champion either. They bent to the weak minded people crying about assassins. And instead of making assassins glass cannons, they removed them from the game. Example, A crit from an ADC, mid to late game,should do 50-80% of their health. So there is some counter play. You might get enough autos in? you might not. Depending how well they use their spells and you use yours. I've learned to not care, and just to try to enjoy the game xD

  • @jayzblazers1465
    @jayzblazers1465 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Still my fav. Even i quit playing lol,the 1st hero i played in the lol

  • @mqx2k
    @mqx2k 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Zed become week and no one picking him"
    Zed OTP: Nuh uh

  • @punklingyt
    @punklingyt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I will never, ever let Riot live down "Zed must be kept intentionally weak because he is frustrating." You know what I hear infinitely more complaints about being frustrating? Tanks that can 1 shot people while having 4k HP. Control mages that don't need to interact with you in a meaningful way to damage you. You know what I don't hear complaints about frustrations with? An AD melee assassin who can only break even in trades every 20 seconds with an ultimate that only kills if he can land 3 separate skillshots perfectly. If we are balancing around frustration, then I would like to see Hullbreaker and other items enabling inting "strategies" removed from the game entirely.

  • @mathiasjacobsen8433
    @mathiasjacobsen8433 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Maybe in pro play he is never picked anymore, but he was S tier for large parts of season 13

  • @Tael_Off
    @Tael_Off 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Basically League's Jett

  • @Slayyyaphine
    @Slayyyaphine 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    0:16 - 0:19 I wouldn't know he's perma banned when I play mid 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @Diopside.
    @Diopside. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any list for used music?

  • @p3rpNZ
    @p3rpNZ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    they just had to keep making the game easier thats why bruisers are meta these days. Can't expect minecraft kids to have skill when they are used to a game that only uses as many pixels as they are old.

  • @zztha156
    @zztha156 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do kinda miss the blind pick overtime rules

  • @Celmondas
    @Celmondas 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The biggest problem was the extrem amount of AH that was in the game combined with the reset mechanic on his W

    • @ginsmyth334
      @ginsmyth334 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True, give him blue buff in late game, he's basically playing URF

  • @saltylemonz258
    @saltylemonz258 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    That PŔRRRRRRRRRRRRRAHHHHH is how exciting Zed players are to watch. There is just some high class elegance to Zed skills and plays but I can understand the feeling of facing a skilled Zed in late game. Its just hell for anyone not a tank. Even a tank will go down 1v1 with him. I still think tanks are the most broken ass thing though like fqing tanks like Ksante can 1v5 and kill a whole thing.

    • @FaceFish9
      @FaceFish9 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      its always like that, cause the items in the game make it like that... game has had too much damage for so many years...

    • @BlackTecno2
      @BlackTecno2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's like, 5 quad-pentakills in this video, some with the Zed player not even being particularly ahead.

  • @Kevin-qy6qt
    @Kevin-qy6qt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:57 made me recoil in disgust holy shit. Whole community asking for ksante to be nerfed from low elo to pro players and they gave him a slap on the wrist

  • @elBanananas
    @elBanananas 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I kinda like the current state of Zed in this season after some buffs. He isn't broken but if you can play him you can dominate again.

  • @agpaok0704
    @agpaok0704 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was playing old aatrox back in season 5-6. Every assasin back then, could just kill me easily when I didn 't have my passive. When back then you bought +70 dmg for example, you dealt +70 dmg to your opponent. After lethality came out in 2017, game already started to show how bad was about to become. Then came stucking runes, scaling abilities with literally everything (ap, ad armor etc.), crazy cooldowns, more dragons etc. Zed was very good at the old concept, of constantly fighting your lane 1vs1. If you were good player, you could easily have 30-40 kills games. Now the game is too predictable, and skills are irrelevant. It is more about dicision making. You already know from champ select if you win or lose trades. When league was fun, even counter match ups fights were ending up with one auto attack difference to death. I was silver back then and it was very common, to lose games because some opponents were really good and dominated. Now I am emerald, and I haven 't lost even one match because someone was good. Always because someone is boosted or wintrading. It took me 2 years of playing the game, in order to start playing ranked games, because of that concept of 1vs1. No one wanted to lose in lane while playing ranked. Now that it is irrelevant, the community has become way way worse, with way worse players and ranked expirience. Silver of 2016 equals at least diamond of today. Riot should fix this problem asap. Make game balanced, reward skilled players, limit jg affect especially in top lane. Some simple steps.And also make it illegal to sell boosted accounts. There are whole websites, and you do nothing to face this problem.

  • @velizarlubenow1095
    @velizarlubenow1095 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    just return his W passive percentage bonus ad i remember it started from 5% to 25% and increase his Q dmg with 15 dmg

  • @YoungSweezy
    @YoungSweezy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great visual design + simple abiliies of their own, but combined together offer infinite skill expression = recipe for a one of the most popular champ in the game.
    And i agree with the nerfs, facing great Zed player has basically no counterplay, if he is strong, even basic Zed player is very deadly. This is the type of a champ that needs to be balanced by a skill of the player playing him and this even fits his lore as a grandmaster of shadowclan.

  • @user-ob5dj1pp9z
    @user-ob5dj1pp9z 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also Riot : Akali. The most obnoxious rework I had ever seen from a champion. They gave her the ability to wake into the opponent, harass them relentlessly and don’t even have to waste hp. Someone on Riot much be smoking when they did her rework

  • @Lomboses
    @Lomboses 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    How riot treated zed is legit why i only play aram now. No point in grinding ranked when my favorite champion intentionally gets left behind

    • @papabear5506
      @papabear5506 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is this me?

    • @jazobz2085
      @jazobz2085 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bruh zed is viable always lol

    • @acecun6202
      @acecun6202 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jazobz2085In low elo maybe but not in Plat and higher even in mid gold most people have his number

    • @jazobz2085
      @jazobz2085 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@acecun6202 I’m plat2 rn just playin zed and it’s still simple game . He is not dead just play better macro. Early game zed is back .

    • @LoneDeeeeeeed
      @LoneDeeeeeeed 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jazobz2085 Nah early game for Zed is terrible.
      But reaching mid-late game without getting behind is the key to play Zed, it's easy for lower elo but Higher Elo games don't last long and People often know how to play against Zed in those higher ranks.
      But yes, great macro will benefit you a lot with a bad early game champ like Zed.

  • @qeezeeqee
    @qeezeeqee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This shit is forever ridiculous . There are turret champs who are even shittier to play against, champs who can walk thru walls and be perma stealth who suck more to play against, and people who can go invulnerable that suck to play against even more. Why does mages who get shit on make zed get turned into a dog shit champ . Players are so weird

  • @iZipper
    @iZipper 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    if they get zed back to the way he quite used to, like a playable character again, I would definitely get back in playing league

    • @ChikoTheOGDog
      @ChikoTheOGDog 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fortunately, his one shot playstyle is back again. But you really have to be so good at zed if you want to use him in high elo because the energy management and long w cooldown will f you up 😂

  • @Luminus_Illust
    @Luminus_Illust 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Remember zed's second old passive?

  • @kingbeastu
    @kingbeastu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a Zed Main, Zed is still VERY VERY STRONG. You just need a lil bit more stills nowadays

  • @thrustfrombehind9869
    @thrustfrombehind9869 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Huh? I never knew he was "nerfed"
    Always felt the same no matter what

    • @nguyenhuuhiep1505
      @nguyenhuuhiep1505 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the dmg is way worse than other season and I feel like zed just doesn't have the potential to carry a 1v9 games anymore

    • @deathmark1940
      @deathmark1940 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Low elo

  • @kirkangelomagdalera4404
    @kirkangelomagdalera4404 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My friend laterally stopped playing LoL after those massive nerfs

  • @elliottamini9872
    @elliottamini9872 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I main Zed and it pains me the black clever ravenous hydra is over but to be honest i hate playing agaisnt him

  • @MiguinGineer
    @MiguinGineer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The score finding ways how to put that iconic faker play in a video the nth time

  • @esmailkhorchani915
    @esmailkhorchani915 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Remember when we used to kill the jhin over and over again to stack AD

  • @classick3064
    @classick3064 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Back in the day, if you can't play Lee, Yas or Zed you are an outcast

  • @monkeymanx6
    @monkeymanx6 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Zed is supposed to be an assassin, not a spamming mage with such mobility.

    • @fikus5965
      @fikus5965 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      tell that to the guy who thought it would be funny if every item had ability haste and that ravenous hydra passive would active with abilities

    • @monkeymanx6
      @monkeymanx6 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fikus5965 ravenous and titanic hydra used to be only for melee champions and had the cleave item button for years before it got removed and put back.

    • @fikus5965
      @fikus5965 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@monkeymanx6 yea, i said tell that to the guy who thought it would be funny if .... and "that ravenous hydra passive would active with abilities". idk what purpose your comment had

  • @wavexhyper
    @wavexhyper 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I don't know anything about league but I am still here to comment

  • @bornofosirislover
    @bornofosirislover 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looking at buff if all are true why is velkoz not seeing anything since his passive ult rework nerf like 6 years ago? The last champion ever made without any sort of movement ability in his kit. Sad to see

  • @Frenchtoastedfruitloops
    @Frenchtoastedfruitloops 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sounds like a masters+ problem tbh because I still do fine on zed and i jungle him. Was under the impression that was his weaker roll. Maybe it’s actually better now?
    Edit: just looked and according to win rate at least jungle Zed is actually preforming better by half a point. Jungle is sitting at almost 50 while mid is 49%.

  • @biblicallyhazed
    @biblicallyhazed 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    another day for thescore using ryu's clip

  • @adrieldbz
    @adrieldbz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem with Zed is the same problem with LeBlanc, they had too much dash with short cooldowns, even when they make mistakes you can barely punish them.

    • @andylopez7507
      @andylopez7507 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The difference here is that LB falls off mid to late game. Zed scales and gets stronger. LB no matter if you can’t punish her she didnt get as strong as zed did

  • @KimmyR3
    @KimmyR3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    oh.. so this is where Hayabusa from ML was modeled from 😅

  • @amirabasgamer9504
    @amirabasgamer9504 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    in low to mid rank its still very op, its in high elo that its the problem and thats more of problem cuz any champ in high elo has 1000 movement speed or 10 dashes and people are very good at dodging and shit, some champs like this should not be buffed, i remember zed back then when i was learning the game, the champ could literally tp like 4 times and 1 shot everyone while doing that, bad times, keep him "weak"

  • @sisco47
    @sisco47 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    If riot really doesnt want to see the same champions being played at worlds... Then implement a one time pick for each team per game set. This means in a T1 vs Geng we can at most see azir being picked two times for a best 3 out of 5. Just saying... it would make things better.

    • @bigandhairyrichard6333
      @bigandhairyrichard6333 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea that is actually a ruleset that some tournaments use, I just cannot for the life of me remember the name of it 100% would want to see it at worlds

    • @tranphong9751
      @tranphong9751 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bigandhairyrichard6333I believe it’s called “Global ban pick”?

    • @abunja
      @abunja 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's not they "doesn't want", but what it means is a 100% pick/ban rate champ which is currently too good to not use. The thing in pro play is that they use simple yet effective champions rather than complex ones since the lesser the mistake the more consistent it is. And pros tend to have a not so deep of a champion pool since mastering is much better than a counterpick that plays mediocrely.

    • @LeoNuzlocke
      @LeoNuzlocke 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is called "Fearless Draft" and a bunch of the lower challenger leagues actually use this rule

    • @ICCraider
      @ICCraider 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bigandhairyrichard6333 It's called fearless draft and it's being used at the tier 2 scenes of 2 of the 4 major regions. It's actually made the LDL and the NACL extremely fun to watch.

  • @diomidistheologidis1780
    @diomidistheologidis1780 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the fact that zed is nerfed to the ground and champions like aatrox and riven exist makes me sick

  • @faisfaizal5194
    @faisfaizal5194 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Zed is the most frustrating champ to play against"
    Meanwhile: Yone and K'Sante just chilling in top lane building tanky items but can still one-shot any squishies

  • @xXDark0sXx
    @xXDark0sXx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As one rioter commented a while ago, Zed is made to be trash atm since uf he gets just a bit viable, it becomes meta and players get frustrated to play against him.
    Other champion that its keep like that too is Quinn. Different strenghts, same result.

  • @Nolvus
    @Nolvus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Season 13 he was strong with his Hydra Bruiser Build
    Season 14 he feels so shit again i never see him and when someone picks him its an OTP
    And to the part from August: A low Elo player would say its unfair how he gets killed by Zed.. sorry but i would not care what anyone below D1 says..

  • @owarida6241
    @owarida6241 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Riot Honestly need to put a game mode where champion are at their peak version.
    Like imagine garen where his E stacks with atk spd and do on hit dmg. 😂
    Then there's Kalista a monster during her peak.
    And mg-42 kogmaw

  • @s.b.e._9692
    @s.b.e._9692 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tekken 8 is so amazing and it came out last week. Jump in it's the best time to start!
    Im commenting it because score esport dropped FGC because of small engament i guess. Funny, they watched EVO tekken 7 and had blast so kinda sad to see them not even mention new tekken. I wonder what happend with cs2?

  • @muneebzulfiqar4035
    @muneebzulfiqar4035 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Balance is weakness ~ zed

  • @Pentagram666mar
    @Pentagram666mar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Funny thing is to keep Zed weak as when he is strong he tilts everyone, while they keep k'sante strong while this champion is the single most frustrating champion i have ever encountered in 13 years of playing league (yeah, more frustrating than singed)

  • @CapybaraAccept
    @CapybaraAccept 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    zed is literally the kata that need skills

  • @__entiendo
    @__entiendo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem with Zed is he plays like a control mage with his shadow zoning, and it is such a low commitment. Except he can take conqueror and can just as easily switch between control mage and assassin/bruiser

  • @itsnajeb.2350
    @itsnajeb.2350 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ofc they would sneak in ryu's face

  • @mralokin3718
    @mralokin3718 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "Zed is most frustrating champion to face against"
    also riot: releases Hwei with 7 abilities and xerath range

  • @dielanschamber8730
    @dielanschamber8730 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The face of zed!! Stylendo!

  • @COIN_a
    @COIN_a 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never heard that august interview before, zed is the assassin they are keeping intentionally weak? Leblanc is and always has been a better version of him, her q > empowered q even accomplishes a more egregious version of what he described zeds ult doing in low mmr. Yet lb has stayed good enough to pop up in pro play at some point every year for some god-forsaken reason for the entirety of her existence

  • @dark3rthanshadows
    @dark3rthanshadows 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not just zed but the whole assassin tree riot just nerfed the fuck outta most of them, those that work as bruisers can still work but the rest..forget it

  • @Motorboatasaurus
    @Motorboatasaurus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can't stand playing against Zed. Especially a good one, as an ADC main I don't see how I have any way to counter him other than play someone like Kai'sa where I can build Zhonya's without trolling.

  • @redbone9553
    @redbone9553 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like this video just barely touch on Zed's problem. The problem with Zed was that the assassin item all give CDR, which allowed Zed to essentially play as an ranged burst assassin with the occasional of going in to kill you if you want.
    At 43% CDR, Zed can spam W Q E from a screen away and deny any squishy champion for being allowed to interact with him.
    Other AD assassin can also spam abilities, but unlike Zed, who have a massive range advantage, most of those assassin need to engage in some way to do damage.

  • @bornofosirislover
    @bornofosirislover 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looking at buff if all are true why is velkoz not seeing anything since his passive alt rework nerf like 6 years ago? The last champion ever made without any sort of movement ability in his kit. Sad to see

    • @stefanristic9245
      @stefanristic9245 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you mean zed buffs? its completely placebo e late game dmg buff doesnt do anything zed mains would be practically fine even without the buffs they might make a difference once in like 75 games but for the most part they are completely useless for context its coming from a 200lp master zed otp riot shouldve reverted his q and e early game nerfs if they really wanted to do anything with the champion cuz right now zed cant even kill caster minions under tower from levels 1 to 5

  • @dodgeme7456
    @dodgeme7456 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember 2014 , Zed was strong. You can carry 4 disabled monkeys back then playing as Zed.

  • @knightmare8894
    @knightmare8894 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another day another video of that Ryu clip. But sheet do it twice 😂

  • @ANDR0iD
    @ANDR0iD 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    HAHAHHAHAH FEEL WHAT I FEEL (Sanest mage mid enjoyer)

  • @Xry76
    @Xry76 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    just wait till they see the state of adcs in ranked

  • @shadowstyle3139
    @shadowstyle3139 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a zed player i gotta say tank meta is way more annoying than playing against him atleast in gold-plat elo