I've fallen under the spell of a charismatic sociopath before too. It's seductive to get in their good graces, but insanely compromising to stay there. You find yourself doing things and making decisions you'd never do on your own. Everything degrades. People of good intentions eventually reach a breaking point with people like this, and they either implode or cut ties. I'm glad you were able to do the latter. Unfortunately, getting them out of your life doesn't undo the damage. Michael was a user and abuser, and being manipulated by people like that leaves scars. They leave a horrible tangle of emotions. With time and help, the scars can untangle and fade though. It's wonderful you and Ernie are able to still be there for each other. Thanks for sharing your side of the story.
David, thank you for sharing your story. I can't wait to buy your book. It is the true climax and epilogue to Michael Alig saga, and the cautionary tale that needs to be told about the emptiness that lies in the end for the lifestyle that Michael embodied. He was already larger than life, and Disco Bloodbath/Party Monster made him a mythological figure, but I feel he needs to be humanized and shown for who he really was behind that persona, which is often glorified. The haters just don't like knowing the less glamorous truth that lies behind some of the people they look up to, but really, he made himself look pretty bad on his own. Your story brings closure to a fascinating subject.
You and Ernie both are such a kind and caring people. And that is ok, it’s ok to be willing to give someone a second chance, it’s amazing to care for someone in the time of trouble. Those are good things. I am glad you got through this together. Thank you for sharing your experience, your book is definitely worth reading. I hope Michael is in peace now, he surely didn’t have an easy life.
i LOVE this!! this is fascinating. i don't know anything about the context or backdrop (xcept the basic things) but the story of michael's 'peeew' yrs makes for good reading, i would read this . . .
I have been hoping that you and your husband have been well. Nice to hear from you. Hope you all have a great holiday season and a blessed new year to come.
Thank you very much for telling your story on here, David. Do you and Ernie have socials outside of TH-cam? I, and im sure others, would be interested in keeping up with you both seperate from the peew!
Michael had a better position than 99% of people getting out of prison, especially considering the horrible crime he committed. He was very charismatic but he was only about a Michael. Did he even realize how lucky he was to have that group of friends?
seems that all these weak people (and i say "weak" because they allowed themselves to get drawn in by a sociopath - and even after realizing it they oddly still fawn over him and his memory) who get drawn into michael's orbit get damaged. they all somehow get all banged up. the next question is why do they allow themselves to get drawn in like that? it's an interesting question and none of them ever ask it and reflect on it. all you people were drawn in by a narcissist. do you realize that? have you asked why? and even after realizing it, why do you still fawn over him? i suppose you'll ask to have his name etched on your gravestone at this rate.
It was really good hearted of you and Ernie to offer help to Michael when he was in that initial vulnerable state of reintroduction to living in society. But it sounds like he was kind of frozen at the same stage of maturity as when he was incarcerated. And there was only so much anyone else, ( besides himself ) was going to be able to do for him as a grown adult who needed to take the steps at some point to function on his own. I'm so glad it all didn't ruin your marriage, and that you were able to get healing of your own. It's really tragic that Michael couldn't find that for himself in his lifetime.
It seems like when Michael moved in, he drew all the attention and love in the house to him, like a vampire. It always looked like Ernie was in love with Michael, maybe that has something to do with it too. It must’ve been really had to feel like he was hurting Michael and letting him down.
I am (an adult) child from violent abusive family. I never learned to defend myself, my strategy was to hide, stay out of the way, to agree to avoid conflict. I have had to learn to “argue” only when I became a parent and I couldn’t just avoid confrontation by agreeing with everything. I completely understand why it’s not always easy for someone to do what seems to be the right and fair thing to do. Sometimes you just calculate which one is more easily and likely to forgive you and choose to upset that rather the one who caused the problem instead. Nobody is perfect, even if they mean well ❤
You wanted Ernie to simultaneously kick him out for talking bad about you but also keep Michael there? Please don’t blame Ernie. It sounds like you have some major issues with your feelings towards Michael.
I purchased ur book!! 😁
I've fallen under the spell of a charismatic sociopath before too. It's seductive to get in their good graces, but insanely compromising to stay there. You find yourself doing things and making decisions you'd never do on your own. Everything degrades. People of good intentions eventually reach a breaking point with people like this, and they either implode or cut ties. I'm glad you were able to do the latter.
Unfortunately, getting them out of your life doesn't undo the damage. Michael was a user and abuser, and being manipulated by people like that leaves scars. They leave a horrible tangle of emotions. With time and help, the scars can untangle and fade though. It's wonderful you and Ernie are able to still be there for each other.
Thanks for sharing your side of the story.
David, thank you for sharing your story. I can't wait to buy your book. It is the true climax and epilogue to Michael Alig saga, and the cautionary tale that needs to be told about the emptiness that lies in the end for the lifestyle that Michael embodied. He was already larger than life, and Disco Bloodbath/Party Monster made him a mythological figure, but I feel he needs to be humanized and shown for who he really was behind that persona, which is often glorified. The haters just don't like knowing the less glamorous truth that lies behind some of the people they look up to, but really, he made himself look pretty bad on his own. Your story brings closure to a fascinating subject.
Good video. You seem very sincere. It is important to tell your truth no matter what anyone thinks.
Excellent! I love these stories
Thank you for your words. Great to hear your take on things
Thanks for sharing.
You and Ernie both are such a kind and caring people. And that is ok, it’s ok to be willing to give someone a second chance, it’s amazing to care for someone in the time of trouble. Those are good things. I am glad you got through this together. Thank you for sharing your experience, your book is definitely worth reading.
I hope Michael is in peace now, he surely didn’t have an easy life.
This is gold!! Thank you
Rip Michael greatest club kid ever
Love you “Igor”!!!!
Oh my goodness. I forgot all about that nickname to conceal David’s identity at first.
i LOVE this!! this is fascinating. i don't know anything about the context or backdrop (xcept the basic things) but the story of michael's 'peeew' yrs makes for good reading, i would read this . . .
I have been hoping that you and your husband have been well. Nice to hear from you. Hope you all have a great holiday season and a blessed new year to come.
Thank you very much for telling your story on here, David. Do you and Ernie have socials outside of TH-cam? I, and im sure others, would be interested in keeping up with you both seperate from the peew!
That must have been really difficult to deal with, I can’t imagine how I’d cope with this situation if I were in your position.
I cannot believe Ernie allowed this. I am very close to saying very volatile things. Disgusting.
Michael had a better position than 99% of people getting out of prison, especially considering the horrible crime he committed. He was very charismatic but he was only about a Michael. Did he even realize how lucky he was to have that group of friends?
I miss Ernie
Bravo
seems that all these weak people (and i say "weak" because they allowed themselves to get drawn in by a sociopath - and even after realizing it they oddly still fawn over him and his memory) who get drawn into michael's orbit get damaged. they all somehow get all banged up. the next question is why do they allow themselves to get drawn in like that? it's an interesting question and none of them ever ask it and reflect on it. all you people were drawn in by a narcissist. do you realize that? have you asked why? and even after realizing it, why do you still fawn over him? i suppose you'll ask to have his name etched on your gravestone at this rate.
It was really good hearted of you and Ernie to offer help to Michael when he was in that initial vulnerable state of reintroduction to living in society. But it sounds like he was kind of frozen at the same stage of maturity as when he was incarcerated. And there was only so much anyone else, ( besides himself ) was going to be able to do for him as a grown adult who needed to take the steps at some point to function on his own. I'm so glad it all didn't ruin your marriage, and that you were able to get healing of your own. It's really tragic that Michael couldn't find that for himself in his lifetime.
reminds me of that little guy who hangs around Gaston in beauty and the beast
interesting....tho its pretty shitty that ernie never defended you. wow
It seems like when Michael moved in, he drew all the attention and love in the house to him, like a vampire. It always looked like Ernie was in love with Michael, maybe that has something to do with it too. It must’ve been really had to feel like he was hurting Michael and letting him down.
I am (an adult) child from violent abusive family. I never learned to defend myself, my strategy was to hide, stay out of the way, to agree to avoid conflict. I have had to learn to “argue” only when I became a parent and I couldn’t just avoid confrontation by agreeing with everything. I completely understand why it’s not always easy for someone to do what seems to be the right and fair thing to do. Sometimes you just calculate which one is more easily and likely to forgive you and choose to upset that rather the one who caused the problem instead. Nobody is perfect, even if they mean well ❤
I don’t know how I feel about airing dirty laundry about someone who’s dead and can’t speak for themselves anymore.
I feel like he’s talking about his experience; it not just gossip about Michael or anything.
It’s not cool to silence people.
If only there was some way Ernie could have seen ahead of time that it would end bad....
Maybe Ernie thought he might behave more like Freeze did
You wanted Ernie to simultaneously kick him out for talking bad about you but also keep Michael there? Please don’t blame Ernie. It sounds like you have some major issues with your feelings towards Michael.
I feel like you struggle with comprehension. Work on that.
@ elaborate. What part am I
Missing
@@jrojala I think like you are a sock account for Ernie. Sorry you can’t think critically