I’m trying out this new format where I just share whatever ideas that are top of mind. This will not be in lieu of the lectures & interviews but hopefully a more casual medium where I can talk about ideas that more people might relate to. Please let me know in the comments what you think of this new format!
Hello Jonathon. I admire this candid honesty dude. This makes you more of a philosopher than sterile analysts, by all measures. Your describing evolving A.I. as a kind of "humbling" process for humanity also resonates deeply. It does feel that way, doesn't it? As if we're supposed to learn our limitations before we can transcend them. This feels deeply spiritual to me. Do you tend to agree, and if so, what do you think might be the purpose of such a humbling process?
Please interview Evan Thompson. Embodiment or corporeality and other concepts flowing out of Merleau-Ponty are more relevant than ever for philosophizing.
great stuff brother. as a software dev, I felt the same dread when I first encountered gpt3 but then I had a similar realization that I identified too much with my profession and realized how truly lucky I was to enjoy what I do and that technical progress will help others also be fulfilled as I am. as intelligence/creativity become commoditized, authentic human experience will be more valuable than ever. keep moving and leave plenty of space for wonder! side note: as a new subscriber, I love the videos but felt like they lacked that youtube-style human connection somewhat and often felt more like something I would see on TV-probably due to the superb aesthetics and professionalism of each video. I really welcome this new format as it feels more wholesome and less formal
@Jasminehaydon We are literally creating a new dominate species on the planet. It will be extremely powerful. We will not be able to control it. And we have no idea what it's going to do.
Johnathan, I just wanted to let you know that you have been a really great inspiration to me and likely many others. The human to human connection, the indescribable nuances, especially in fields where hyper scrutiny for efficiency isn’t the goal will likely always create avenues for humanity. I am looking forward to your series!
Im a medical resident and ai has helped me start programming within a month , not to mention how it helps me with difficult differential diagnosis as well
This format is like a fresh wind to me. Instead of seeing a philosopher with nice suit talking about highly sophisticated things, I now see you in a closer, more relatable image. I believe that this new format will bring you great success. Looking for the next videos!
Ruff Ruff. Thanks for your support :) Although I'm not so sure we can say for sure AI has any theoretical limits yet in what it can or can not do. Technology has a way of surprising you.
Bullshit, amigo. Metaphysics is based on human imagination and intuition. No immortal replica of humanity will solve the unsolvable. Now back and hitch Zuckerberg's sandals.
Here's my take that is inspired after watching you. I think you'll still be relevant because existing philosophies and their philosophers were operating on paradigms which never changed until AI. It's like writing about courage because you never truly met anyone or anything that provoked real fear in you and you confuse it for courage. Similarly, the insecurities that will arise in AI era will be uniquely different and that will require people like you who have actual access to human interiority and is there to witness it. Plato, Socrates, Camus were not living in today's world. We are.
So glad I discovered your content - you seem very authentic and honest. I’m in highschool and I’m gonna study philosophy next year in university 🤞🏻 very exciting!!!
We have a lot in common..I love walking and musing. I’ve also been having the same existential dread over the last two years. 11:27 As a musician, I’ve been saying the same thing about music - that it is going to be cheapened to a degree we have not seen before. I’ve taken some comfort in improvisation, but haven’t found much optimism, except that I think - for now - people enjoy watching other people enjoying the playing music, more than a robot.
no. not really, unless it’s a 0.0000001% virtuoso - gigs are cliché and boring. people are there for the story, memory, to experience human connection. it’s the the .
It's very interesting to see people from different backgrounds and their reaction to AI, so much of people's fears can be summed up as fear of being replaced and financial struggle. Most of my fears with AI stem from its ability to affect how people traditionally reason. An example would be traditionally, I see the footage of my neighbour committing a crime on security camera, I can reasonably assume he is guilty. With developments from AI I see his face, hear his voice, watch his every action... but the entire video could have been fabricated and completely indistinguishable from the real thing. AI presents for me, an uncanny valley type feeling, especially with how many AI influenced videos I witness on social media. How much of my human experience can be freely reconstructed and manipulated by a machine? How can I be aware that what I'm seeing is the truth of the matter, or a finely constructed illusion to deceive me? AI is a very useful tool, and we should do our best to adapt and refine its usage if it is destined to continue to make waves. However, I do believe AI will forever change human reasoning and our social experiences, especially online, to a level no one will be able to predict.
The algohritm showed me this video and it's great. New subscriber. I've thought a lot about this as well and two things come to mind, one is that coming up with novel and useful things will likely be done solely by A.I, if you look at ultimately novel and useful things. Perhaps humans can come up with novel and useful things for other humans but only due to ignorance of AI's products. So being a creative will in some sense diminish I think. Second thing is that if you ask an ASI to come up with a deeply fulfilling life for one self given the contraints of your station in life and individual psychology, my bet is that it will come up with something. So while fulfillment in the future might not be the same clothes I wear today, at least I'm not going to be naked.
It works. Never seen you in my feed before. But you are on to something. Keep it up! I think it is gonna be more alot more good than bad, even for us who have careers today.
I thought this was pretty good, but i don’t think you need to worry about formatting so heavily. Some of the easiest content to connect to is where someone has a general point to the video, but also just talks about their thoughts and interactions in their life without it needing to be super pointed or methodical. All content you’ve made has been good so far but don’t worry about being too formulaic on less structured videos like this. All that being said i really enjoyed hearing your thoughts
Your insights are both compelling and timely, and they may soon shape the Overton window as AI’s impact on traditionally human-held tasks becomes increasingly evident. A thoughtfully written book from your perspective could be incredibly valuable for readers navigating this shift. With the right timing and support from a strong network, it has, i think, the potential to become a NYT bestseller.
lol, didn’t he just criticise the book form factor, planting philosophy into dead trees/paper v into the soul of a person… nyt is obsolete, so are the status games of old it gate-kept… it no longer is the arbiter of what’s true or what’s valuable…
@@futuristudiosYes, that's correct. It's a paradox I wanted to address, albeit with a touch of sarcasm. I think it's fair to compare TH-cam to a new form of writing-just a different medium for broadcasting ideas. I've also been reflecting on the notion of "output." It seems that output aimed at helping others tends to have greater longevity than output created solely for oneself. As AI takes on more tasks, critical decision-making feels increasingly tied to achieving the outcomes we seek, both individually and collectively. That said, I’m not convinced the New York Times is obsolete for most people just yet.
AI removes the need for an outcome 'views, followers, physical wealth' it removes the need for an outcome and shifts the goal to that of the experience of being oneself.
I liked the musing. Arguably it appears less deterministic and more "handmade" 😁. Which is why I think your career influence or viewership is a separate issue from the existential dread of perceived replacement.
When you break it down to it's essence - It's an identity crises we are having. Where dependance and competition are no longer needed. Its more a coming together from a me -world to a we-world. But that can be scary and challenging, however no matte what it is, the rewards are more than worth it. AI is a tool of self empowerment, allowing exploration, discovering and transformation of life as we know it. Literally all life as we know it - pretty wild (and awesome) future we all have ahead of us.
After writing something that first had a rough draft, input the rough draft into one of these A.I and ask it to rewrite it in the style of Anton Chekhov and weep when looking upon it compared to what you have wrote. Learn from this humbling experience and improve from it. Also General George S Patton's writing style when used for this same purpose really inspires to get things done and helps to cut out un needed words. Also walking is the best thing for creativity and for thinking and should be known as the cure for idleness in mind as well as body.
Keep this content going man, love the authenticity! The future of AI is scary but inevitable, I like the way you approached this. How often are you thinking of uploading these?
not sure? Whenever I feel like it. This is supposed to be the more casual, less well thought through ideas vs. my lectures/interviews/essays. I spend a week preparing for each interview, a month for each lecture, and years before i put things down into writing, this is suppsoed to be the lightest on that spectrum.
Haha, I was more inspired by Atesh's walks (Accepting the Universe, you should check out his videos) whom I've gotten to know lately. But I suppose this is a popular genre
Jonathan love your work as always. Girad, now everything your background in tech. As a cs student interested in philosophy you make it easy to understand.
What camera & mic are you using to film this? Is it like a DJI gimbal camera of sort? I would love to do walk and talks on my own. Thanks love the content.
Love the idea that AI/ML can make longstanding open questions answerable, at least in principle. Have you and Professor Kitcher followed up on your debate, now that frontier LLMs are (arguably) able to reason?
You will have to adopted it, this is just like tv and media: we are becoming more advance. It’s not a threat; it’s a program that can be learned and controlled. It meant to take commend.
strongly agree with the idea that we humans need to elevate our capacity for being truly human. Personality, as you mentioned, will play a significant role in this evolution. Alongside personality, I believe emotion is equally important. In both areas, we must strive to become more aware of and in control of these aspects of ourselves. If we think of personality and emotion as instruments that we can learn to master, the future may demand a deliberate effort to develop a pedagogy around understanding them deeply and achieving fluency in ‘playing’ them.
How about calling it musings in motion? Mumo. So rather than writing a memo, you’re walking a Mumo. Hey, where did Jonathan go? Oh, he went off to walk a mumo. And now I think you can even have a logo for it: a dog that’s proudly walking itself with a leash in its mouth.
Thank you for a great talk. I've been thinking about this topic vaguely for the past two years and have come to somewhat the same conclusion as you. This is one reason for my shifting interest in philosophy from engineering, illustration, making money, etc. I think human interests in general will shift to more intrinsic ones if 'being useful to others' becomes impossible for human beings because of AI. And now, I'm curious about your life plan if your job as a philosopher were completely replaced by AI in, say, 10 years. What will you do for a living? Or do you expect things like universal basic income?
The loneliness epidemic sweeping the world and the rise of AI technology are going to be the two most important events to occur in our lifetime. Whether by design or simply brought about by coincidence, there is obviously going to be some crucial, metaphysical crossover between the two in the near future.
AI will be an increasingly awesome research assistant. It will always have read everything you've read and more... and that's fantastic. I've been working on some fiction that puts different authors in dialogue. CharGPT has been great at generating ideas... plot alternatives, or a list of possible place names that are interesting and relevant. I still need to curate those ideas into something compelling that communicates what *I* want to communicate. No fear.
Oh, a great video When i read the title i tought that it will be saying that ai cant get good enough to replace him or his job and how ai would just be another tool (copium) A lot of that type of videos are being uploaded in youtube laitly
What you are hinting at is something that will impact all fields and ways of life. If logic is no longer special, then the subjective and personality will reign. It never was about the accumulation of knowledge for its own sake. The will to power will always find a way.
To your point about rewriting your synapses, I think there might be a better way of just adding to your brain, through something like Neurolink. With an advanced AI I think it might be possible to simulate a brain digitally and make a link to an external device that would work as an extension and have he same OS as our brain so to speak. So basically it will work as an extension of your memory and that's how you could upload information. I think digital memory also will have to be converted by an AI to something different, because we obviously don't just have ZIP files in our brain or TXT or MP3 or whatever. It may be so much easier than we think, we just don't think about it the right way. It's like, if you wanted to travel 100km/hour a few centuries ago, you would think, how do I make my horse run so fast? I guess we just can't predict anything in the era of digital intelligence.
I don’t fear AI because knowing what humans are, that we are thinking beings, AI will be the only cognitive competitor we have, excluding ETs. What does this mean? It means we will necessarily evolve. It may happen extremely rapidly. I’m looking forward to being upgraded.
Some thoughts I had while watching this: This whole AI thing is basically what Nietzsche "predicted" in the Genealogy when he began, as you did in the video, to tell the story of science - and how it made people think of themselves not as divine but as miserable - with Copernicus. But I have to disagree with your (is it really?) point: Wise men write books, but if what they conceive is truly genius - who will listen to them? A select few readers in the future. Also, this general reaction (and yours) to artificial intelligence shows quite well how today's society limits the natural drive of human beings. You just can't make a living from philosophy. That was quite inspiring! (Walking and philosophy is certainly a good combination)
At this point im just tired of being pessimistic. I understand people who might struggle financially if they go out of a job, but for me seeing stuff get automated just makes me think we have more options to play with. I feel like a certain section of the population is at no real risk and are just complaining because its the current way to express class and intelligence, how dramatic and poetic can you make your tweet about the fall of civilisation or the evils of capitalism or whatnot.
Ask your self this, would you be a philosopher if it meant living a life of poverty? You walk around with nice clothes, well groomed in a nice area in a big city, would you swap that for a life of poverty?
Certainly the walk could take that direction. Not forever perhaps (who has time?). But certainly a month long walk with nothing but the clothes on one's back would be illuminating for viewer and protagonist both ✨🎩🥂
I think the wow factor of AI will wear off and people will begin to crave organic and authentic resources for the sake of its origin as opposed to what is fastest or even “better” content-wise. Knowledge is such a small part of what makes a human what it is. The spiritual/social/emotional aspect will never not be the most important focus. With that said… I’ll always support you and your work no matter what, because you’re you and nobody can replace that 🙏
I never felt threatened by AI, but I never really felt anything happening on Earth was particularly good or pleasing. I think everyone's reactions to AI vs. my reaction illuminated how differently I view life and humanity
I wonder if AI personal assistants might help society by informing their user when they are likely being tricked or manipulated by analysing the info they consume (maybe they could look at personal communications too but that could be a tricky area!). A smarter than human AI who looks out for the little guy might be too much to hope for, especially given the cast of characters developing this tech.
Good points! I'll be very curious about your series focusing on AI. I am an architect and animator and I make videos about AI and aesthetics which I think some of your viewers might find interesting.
Most people today treat pretty much everything they do as a form of production or achievement, even sleeping is done "in order to" be more productive, enjoying the week-end is done "in order to" be ready for work on Monday and achieve more, everything is done "in order to". Maybe that's why AI is so scary, because it will force us to rethink our way of living, and our purpose, we'll have to do things as purely atelic activities, not even for cultivation. What's the point of learning how to draw if AI can draw better than you, and consequently anybody can draw better than you? The Universe never made us purposeful, or even valuable, we just happened, and then we invented purpose with our own brain. And AI is showing us just that, at the scale of the universe, we are useless. Maybe AI will also push us back to a more analog life, giving more value to anything that is not digital because the skills will be shown there and it's a bastion still hard to reach for an AI. But even this bastion will fall at some point. I think human will merge entirely with the machines at some point, we have already delegated part of our memory to our phones and most people are completely lost without them.
I like how you take time to Self-Reflect and adjust yourself based on your reflections. Similarly to how you re-evaluated yourself when you were making excuses for quitting your startup 😏
@@bi.johnathanlol been binging your stuff man. It feels like the Self-aware are congregating together. Almost like a Neo-Renaissance but not everyone is aware of it. 🧐
It's normal to feel fear, brotha! Especially to something like AI. One things for certain, like the internet was born and made free to all, now the internet has been provided with a different way to interact with us. As you mentioned regarding "productization," ...... no matter what, there will be a mainstream crowd and a non mainstream that will and won't advertise: "AI can pleasure me. AI can fill my every need." Etc. Etc. But a philosopher? As I read in one of the comments, knowing the intracacies and delicacies of the interior of a human is and will always be separate from the human to a robot. If we were to put a cold robot vs. a man in a marathon of life and told them both their purpose was to live 100 years and discover whatever they can about life, At the very end of the day, the robot will not make it to heaven or hell, to see God or not to see, to understand the depth of feelings, compassion, love, or why hatred of onself or for others is even a thing... Ask yourself, who would you rather sit and philosophize with at the 100-year marker? Someone once told me, "It won't have power over you unless YOU let it." (Referring to a whole different topic and lesson yet, sounded relevant) This format was wonderful, happy holidays, hermano.
Not to mention, AI can only come up with stuff that it's trained on from the internet and from people who created that knowledge, etc. While you or I, on the other hand, can come up with NEW, Very New and Unheard of criteria.
Just some decades ago we didn't have any computing. And now computers do trillions of calculations per second. It's probable that the same thing will happen to human level thinking. When computers produce so much intelligence, the whole humanity quickly becomes invisible. No one will ever hear an intelligent thought of a human being, because it's so minuscule, just like compared to what a human can calculate compared to a computer. I think it's fascinating. Also very likely the near future.
Johnathan Bi is a very erudite young philosopher. I fully agree with him that we can factor AI content creation into our living, cultural philosophy, for now. But, come AGI or the Singularity, who knows what will transpire?………
I’m trying out this new format where I just share whatever ideas that are top of mind. This will not be in lieu of the lectures & interviews but hopefully a more casual medium where I can talk about ideas that more people might relate to. Please let me know in the comments what you think of this new format!
Hello Jonathon. I admire this candid honesty dude. This makes you more of a philosopher than sterile analysts, by all measures. Your describing evolving A.I. as a kind of "humbling" process for humanity also resonates deeply. It does feel that way, doesn't it? As if we're supposed to learn our limitations before we can transcend them. This feels deeply spiritual to me. Do you tend to agree, and if so, what do you think might be the purpose of such a humbling process?
Please interview Evan Thompson. Embodiment or corporeality and other concepts flowing out of Merleau-Ponty are more relevant than ever for philosophizing.
I really enjoyed this Jonathan! Thanks for sharing, let's hope a machine that has no true soul or feelings doesn't become "better" than humanity.
You might want to move this into a different channel. It helps with organization and the algorithm. I respect your work
Agree to disagree
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They only understand finance
Ban social impact bonds crypto and esg
great stuff brother. as a software dev, I felt the same dread when I first encountered gpt3 but then I had a similar realization that I identified too much with my profession and realized how truly lucky I was to enjoy what I do and that technical progress will help others also be fulfilled as I am. as intelligence/creativity become commoditized, authentic human experience will be more valuable than ever. keep moving and leave plenty of space for wonder!
side note: as a new subscriber, I love the videos but felt like they lacked that youtube-style human connection somewhat and often felt more like something I would see on TV-probably due to the superb aesthetics and professionalism of each video. I really welcome this new format as it feels more wholesome and less formal
Everyone should be simultaneously fascinated, excited, and terrified of what's coming. This goes WAY beyond just losing a job.
What's coming? Please don't alarm us so.
@Jasminehaydon We are literally creating a new dominate species on the planet. It will be extremely powerful. We will not be able to control it. And we have no idea what it's going to do.
@Jasminehaydon I replied by now I can't see it
I would say fascinated, excited and wary.
@@yamishogun6501 Are you able to see my first reply?
AI can’t steal your drip brother. I like this Peter Zeihan walk and talk style btw 💯💯💯
Johnathan, I just wanted to let you know that you have been a really great inspiration to me and likely many others. The human to human connection, the indescribable nuances, especially in fields where hyper scrutiny for efficiency isn’t the goal will likely always create avenues for humanity. I am looking forward to your series!
I'm against it
Im a medical resident and ai has helped me start programming within a month , not to mention how it helps me with difficult differential diagnosis as well
Be careful; the decision is yours
How do you feel about AI replacing human diagnosis altogether? It seems AI is already much better at finding cancer cells on medical imagery.
could have done it yourself without wasting so much water.
@@DevelopersPro exactly lol. I've gotten so much absolute garbage from ChatGPT. It's not groundbreaking. It's so much hype too.
This format is like a fresh wind to me.
Instead of seeing a philosopher with nice suit talking about highly sophisticated things, I now see you in a closer, more relatable image.
I believe that this new format will bring you great success. Looking for the next videos!
Wonderful format! Please continue~
Love the walk and talk format for more causal open dialogue and ideas!
Prepping for homelessness 😢😢😢
Great format for stream of consciousness. It kept my attention the whole time. Already looking for another one.
Love the format and it's definitely fitting of the "what AI cannot do" premise. Authenticity is key - is the future.
Free styling: classing Jazz : Stardard format Musing format
All in all, a pleasure to listen too - optimism on this topic is much appreciated.
Good format. I hope there's more of this coming.
This is the first of your videos I’ve seen. Just wanted to say I really enjoyed it. Loved the style of video as well as the content.
You can talk to your dog and I will listen, Jon. By the way, Ai will never untangle metaphysics. You're safe for the rest of the Century. 🎸🎸🎸
Ruff Ruff. Thanks for your support :) Although I'm not so sure we can say for sure AI has any theoretical limits yet in what it can or can not do. Technology has a way of surprising you.
But it will mimic it very well for billions…
@@esterhudson5104We as humans mimic very well too
I love this channel, but metaphysics is the first thing we solved with Ai. And we did it on the free models
Bullshit, amigo. Metaphysics is based on human imagination and intuition. No immortal replica of humanity will solve the unsolvable. Now back and hitch Zuckerberg's sandals.
Here's my take that is inspired after watching you. I think you'll still be relevant because existing philosophies and their philosophers were operating on paradigms which never changed until AI. It's like writing about courage because you never truly met anyone or anything that provoked real fear in you and you confuse it for courage. Similarly, the insecurities that will arise in AI era will be uniquely different and that will require people like you who have actual access to human interiority and is there to witness it. Plato, Socrates, Camus were not living in today's world. We are.
I like this format, and especially philosophical discussions on AI. keep them coming!
So glad I discovered your content - you seem very authentic and honest. I’m in highschool and I’m gonna study philosophy next year in university 🤞🏻 very exciting!!!
I like this format. It seems like we can see you thinking and being outside gives a different energy.
This seems to be a well-fitting video format for you Johnathan, would love to see more of it.
Your video productions and mind are great! Keep up the good work !
I like this talk format, bc even tho we stuck at least we are moving in some direction. no need to worry about wrong direction, just move along
Walk and talk is a banger format, supporting it
We have a lot in common..I love walking and musing. I’ve also been having the same existential dread over the last two years. 11:27 As a musician, I’ve been saying the same thing about music - that it is going to be cheapened to a degree we have not seen before. I’ve taken some comfort in improvisation, but haven’t found much optimism, except that I think - for now - people enjoy watching other people enjoying the playing music, more than a robot.
no. not really, unless it’s a 0.0000001% virtuoso - gigs are cliché and boring. people are there for the story, memory, to experience human connection. it’s the the .
it’s the why not the what
Music art by humans will save us... keep doing it because you love it. Keep human music alive for when we need it to save us.
I really like this formal, you should continue 💯
Regardless what format you use, I'll be following. Keep em coming brother
It's very interesting to see people from different backgrounds and their reaction to AI, so much of people's fears can be summed up as fear of being replaced and financial struggle.
Most of my fears with AI stem from its ability to affect how people traditionally reason. An example would be traditionally, I see the footage of my neighbour committing a crime on security camera, I can reasonably assume he is guilty. With developments from AI I see his face, hear his voice, watch his every action... but the entire video could have been fabricated and completely indistinguishable from the real thing.
AI presents for me, an uncanny valley type feeling, especially with how many AI influenced videos I witness on social media. How much of my human experience can be freely reconstructed and manipulated by a machine? How can I be aware that what I'm seeing is the truth of the matter, or a finely constructed illusion to deceive me?
AI is a very useful tool, and we should do our best to adapt and refine its usage if it is destined to continue to make waves. However, I do believe AI will forever change human reasoning and our social experiences, especially online, to a level no one will be able to predict.
i love this walk n talk video format
The algohritm showed me this video and it's great. New subscriber.
I've thought a lot about this as well and two things come to mind, one is that coming up with novel and useful things will likely be done solely by A.I, if you look at ultimately novel and useful things. Perhaps humans can come up with novel and useful things for other humans but only due to ignorance of AI's products. So being a creative will in some sense diminish I think. Second thing is that if you ask an ASI to come up with a deeply fulfilling life for one self given the contraints of your station in life and individual psychology, my bet is that it will come up with something. So while fulfillment in the future might not be the same clothes I wear today, at least I'm not going to be naked.
I don't know, may be in real life i will meet you or not but i am very thankful to you and your work which gives me hope in darkness.
It works. Never seen you in my feed before. But you are on to something. Keep it up! I think it is gonna be more alot more good than bad, even for us who have careers today.
amazing format, please keep doing this
Loved the format.
I thought this was pretty good, but i don’t think you need to worry about formatting so heavily. Some of the easiest content to connect to is where someone has a general point to the video, but also just talks about their thoughts and interactions in their life without it needing to be super pointed or methodical. All content you’ve made has been good so far but don’t worry about being too formulaic on less structured videos like this. All that being said i really enjoyed hearing your thoughts
In my neighborhood walking like that with your phone at night is impossible.
Your insights are both compelling and timely, and they may soon shape the Overton window as AI’s impact on traditionally human-held tasks becomes increasingly evident. A thoughtfully written book from your perspective could be incredibly valuable for readers navigating this shift. With the right timing and support from a strong network, it has, i think, the potential to become a NYT bestseller.
thanks, heads down on youtube for now, but one day!
lol, didn’t he just criticise the book form factor, planting philosophy into dead trees/paper v into the soul of a person… nyt is obsolete, so are the status games of old it gate-kept… it no longer is the arbiter of what’s true or what’s valuable…
@@futuristudiosYes, that's correct. It's a paradox I wanted to address, albeit with a touch of sarcasm. I think it's fair to compare TH-cam to a new form of writing-just a different medium for broadcasting ideas. I've also been reflecting on the notion of "output." It seems that output aimed at helping others tends to have greater longevity than output created solely for oneself. As AI takes on more tasks, critical decision-making feels increasingly tied to achieving the outcomes we seek, both individually and collectively. That said, I’m not convinced the New York Times is obsolete for most people just yet.
AI removes the need for an outcome 'views, followers, physical wealth' it removes the need for an outcome and shifts the goal to that of the experience of being oneself.
I liked the musing. Arguably it appears less deterministic and more "handmade" 😁. Which is why I think your career influence or viewership is a separate issue from the existential dread of perceived replacement.
When you break it down to it's essence - It's an identity crises we are having. Where dependance and competition are no longer needed. Its more a coming together from a me -world to a we-world. But that can be scary and challenging, however no matte what it is, the rewards are more than worth it. AI is a tool of self empowerment, allowing exploration, discovering and transformation of life as we know it. Literally all life as we know it - pretty wild (and awesome) future we all have ahead of us.
After writing something that first had a rough draft, input the rough draft into one of these A.I and ask it to rewrite it in the style of Anton Chekhov and weep when looking upon it compared to what you have wrote. Learn from this humbling experience and improve from it. Also General George S Patton's writing style when used for this same purpose really inspires to get things done and helps to cut out un needed words. Also walking is the best thing for creativity and for thinking and should be known as the cure for idleness in mind as well as body.
Sometimes I wish TH-camrs would be stocks so that I could bet all my money that Jonathan will make it big.
Keep this content going man, love the authenticity! The future of AI is scary but inevitable, I like the way you approached this. How often are you thinking of uploading these?
not sure? Whenever I feel like it. This is supposed to be the more casual, less well thought through ideas vs. my lectures/interviews/essays. I spend a week preparing for each interview, a month for each lecture, and years before i put things down into writing, this is suppsoed to be the lightest on that spectrum.
Peter Zeihan will be proud
Haha, I was more inspired by Atesh's walks (Accepting the Universe, you should check out his videos) whom I've gotten to know lately. But I suppose this is a popular genre
Jonathan love your work as always. Girad, now everything your background in tech. As a cs student interested in philosophy you make it easy to understand.
Have you read or listened to any David Deutsch? I think you’d find his ideas very interesting especially on AI and topics in this video.
Yeah I'll second this. Keen too see how he updates his assessment of AI in his next book.
Well, since personality matters to you, yours comes through nicely. And you will keep yourself a few steps ahead of AI.
that's what i was going for ;)
probably not anytime soon, but I've been asking chatGPT "answer this as if you were [philosopher]" and I've been really impressed with the answers
We love/need production! 😂
I'll green screen me walking on the moon
What camera & mic are you using to film this? Is it like a DJI gimbal camera of sort? I would love to do walk and talks on my own. Thanks love the content.
Dji pocket 3
Articulate and on point as usual 👌🏾👌🏾❤️🔥💯
I don't think Ai is a bad thing I think robots will look for us in the future
Love it - especially the last 3 parts!
I approve of the format, very enjoyable!
AI will be like music in tape cassettes, used but as time goes on decline in ''general'' .
I am one with the force and the force is with me.
Love this format.
You are on to something. Keep it up.
Awesome take
Love the idea that AI/ML can make longstanding open questions answerable, at least in principle. Have you and Professor Kitcher followed up on your debate, now that frontier LLMs are (arguably) able to reason?
Are you also going to be focusing on Eastern Philosophers? I was curious about the upanishads, Confucius, etc. Love your lectures!
Those are not philosophers. More like theologians
Not in 25, but maybe 26!
@@bokramubokramu8834 May I ask what is the difference?
What a phenomenal phenomenal perspective
You will have to adopted it, this is just like tv and media: we are becoming more advance. It’s not a threat; it’s a program that can be learned and controlled. It meant to take commend.
I'm new to your channel and I already love the content.
If I may ask, how old are you?
Just turned 27 yesterday!
@bi.johnathan oh, many many returns of the day 🎉🎂
@@bi.johnathan WOW good for you. Smart and young.
strongly agree with the idea that we humans need to elevate our capacity for being truly human. Personality, as you mentioned, will play a significant role in this evolution. Alongside personality, I believe emotion is equally important. In both areas, we must strive to become more aware of and in control of these aspects of ourselves. If we think of personality and emotion as instruments that we can learn to master, the future may demand a deliberate effort to develop a pedagogy around understanding them deeply and achieving fluency in ‘playing’ them.
How about calling it musings in motion? Mumo. So rather than writing a memo, you’re walking a Mumo. Hey, where did Jonathan go? Oh, he went off to walk a mumo. And now I think you can even have a logo for it: a dog that’s proudly walking itself with a leash in its mouth.
this goes pretty hard
haha, i might steal this... don't copyright it!
Thank you for a great talk.
I've been thinking about this topic vaguely for the past two years and have come to somewhat the same conclusion as you. This is one reason for my shifting interest in philosophy from engineering, illustration, making money, etc. I think human interests in general will shift to more intrinsic ones if 'being useful to others' becomes impossible for human beings because of AI. And now, I'm curious about your life plan if your job as a philosopher were completely replaced by AI in, say, 10 years. What will you do for a living? Or do you expect things like universal basic income?
Was cool to hear your thoughts, I had some similar
Fascinating stuff! New subscriber. Cheers!
The loneliness epidemic sweeping the world and the rise of AI technology are going to be the two most important events to occur in our lifetime. Whether by design or simply brought about by coincidence, there is obviously going to be some crucial, metaphysical crossover between the two in the near future.
ai will ultimately be a reflection of human kind. Whether that scares you or excites you says more about your life than AI it’s self
AI will be an increasingly awesome research assistant. It will always have read everything you've read and more... and that's fantastic. I've been working on some fiction that puts different authors in dialogue. CharGPT has been great at generating ideas... plot alternatives, or a list of possible place names that are interesting and relevant. I still need to curate those ideas into something compelling that communicates what *I* want to communicate. No fear.
Oh, a great video
When i read the title i tought that it will be saying that ai cant get good enough to replace him or his job and how ai would just be another tool (copium)
A lot of that type of videos are being uploaded in youtube laitly
What you are hinting at is something that will impact all fields and ways of life. If logic is no longer special, then the subjective and personality will reign. It never was about the accumulation of knowledge for its own sake. The will to power will always find a way.
To your point about rewriting your synapses, I think there might be a better way of just adding to your brain, through something like Neurolink. With an advanced AI I think it might be possible to simulate a brain digitally and make a link to an external device that would work as an extension and have he same OS as our brain so to speak. So basically it will work as an extension of your memory and that's how you could upload information. I think digital memory also will have to be converted by an AI to something different, because we obviously don't just have ZIP files in our brain or TXT or MP3 or whatever.
It may be so much easier than we think, we just don't think about it the right way. It's like, if you wanted to travel 100km/hour a few centuries ago, you would think, how do I make my horse run so fast? I guess we just can't predict anything in the era of digital intelligence.
I don’t fear AI because knowing what humans are, that we are thinking beings, AI will be the only cognitive competitor we have, excluding ETs. What does this mean? It means we will necessarily evolve. It may happen extremely rapidly. I’m looking forward to being upgraded.
Ludite fears be damned in the face of progress.
Future Robots may be the perfect servents to make Every Man a little King.
Some thoughts I had while watching this:
This whole AI thing is basically what Nietzsche "predicted" in the Genealogy when he began, as you did in the video, to tell the story of science - and how it made people think of themselves not as divine but as miserable - with Copernicus.
But I have to disagree with your (is it really?) point: Wise men write books, but if what they conceive is truly genius - who will listen to them? A select few readers in the future.
Also, this general reaction (and yours) to artificial intelligence shows quite well how today's society limits the natural drive of human beings. You just can't make a living from philosophy.
That was quite inspiring! (Walking and philosophy is certainly a good combination)
I’m pro AI too, AI is our reflection not our enemy.
From a philosopher’s point of view, AI isn't all doom and gloom as some credible alarmists like Yuval Noah Hirari and Stephen Fry are espousing.
At this point im just tired of being pessimistic. I understand people who might struggle financially if they go out of a job, but for me seeing stuff get automated just makes me think we have more options to play with. I feel like a certain section of the population is at no real risk and are just complaining because its the current way to express class and intelligence, how dramatic and poetic can you make your tweet about the fall of civilisation or the evils of capitalism or whatnot.
Ask your self this, would you be a philosopher if it meant living a life of poverty?
You walk around with nice clothes, well groomed in a nice area in a big city, would you swap that for a life of poverty?
Certainly the walk could take that direction. Not forever perhaps (who has time?). But certainly a month long walk with nothing but the clothes on one's back would be illuminating for viewer and protagonist both ✨🎩🥂
I think the wow factor of AI will wear off and people will begin to crave organic and authentic resources for the sake of its origin as opposed to what is fastest or even “better” content-wise. Knowledge is such a small part of what makes a human what it is. The spiritual/social/emotional aspect will never not be the most important focus. With that said… I’ll always support you and your work no matter what, because you’re you and nobody can replace that 🙏
Cultivation, a refreshing idea! A new year 2025 a good place to start with! cheers.
finally a normal video
I never felt threatened by AI, but I never really felt anything happening on Earth was particularly good or pleasing. I think everyone's reactions to AI vs. my reaction illuminated how differently I view life and humanity
I like this format
I wonder if AI personal assistants might help society by informing their user when they are likely being tricked or manipulated by analysing the info they consume (maybe they could look at personal communications too but that could be a tricky area!). A smarter than human AI who looks out for the little guy might be too much to hope for, especially given the cast of characters developing this tech.
Good points! I'll be very curious about your series focusing on AI. I am an architect and animator and I make videos about AI and aesthetics which I think some of your viewers might find interesting.
Most people today treat pretty much everything they do as a form of production or achievement, even sleeping is done "in order to" be more productive, enjoying the week-end is done "in order to" be ready for work on Monday and achieve more, everything is done "in order to". Maybe that's why AI is so scary, because it will force us to rethink our way of living, and our purpose, we'll have to do things as purely atelic activities, not even for cultivation. What's the point of learning how to draw if AI can draw better than you, and consequently anybody can draw better than you?
The Universe never made us purposeful, or even valuable, we just happened, and then we invented purpose with our own brain. And AI is showing us just that, at the scale of the universe, we are useless.
Maybe AI will also push us back to a more analog life, giving more value to anything that is not digital because the skills will be shown there and it's a bastion still hard to reach for an AI. But even this bastion will fall at some point. I think human will merge entirely with the machines at some point, we have already delegated part of our memory to our phones and most people are completely lost without them.
It would be awesome if you and John vervaeke could have a conversation about silicon sages
I like how you take time to Self-Reflect and adjust yourself based on your reflections. Similarly to how you re-evaluated yourself when you were making excuses for quitting your startup 😏
old fan
@@bi.johnathanlol been binging your stuff man. It feels like the Self-aware are congregating together. Almost like a Neo-Renaissance but not everyone is aware of it. 🧐
Imagine an A.I creating this video to trick humans😂
It's normal to feel fear, brotha! Especially to something like AI.
One things for certain, like the internet was born and made free to all, now the internet has been provided with a different way to interact with us.
As you mentioned regarding "productization," ...... no matter what, there will be a mainstream crowd and a non mainstream that will and won't advertise:
"AI can pleasure me. AI can fill my every need." Etc. Etc.
But a philosopher? As I read in one of the comments, knowing the intracacies and delicacies of the interior of a human is and will always be separate from the human to a robot.
If we were to put a cold robot vs. a man in a marathon of life and told them both their purpose was to live 100 years and discover whatever they can about life,
At the very end of the day, the robot will not make it to heaven or hell, to see God or not to see, to understand the depth of feelings, compassion, love, or why hatred of onself or for others is even a thing...
Ask yourself, who would you rather sit and philosophize with at the 100-year marker?
Someone once told me, "It won't have power over you unless YOU let it." (Referring to a whole different topic and lesson yet, sounded relevant)
This format was wonderful, happy holidays, hermano.
Not to mention, AI can only come up with stuff that it's trained on from the internet and from people who created that knowledge, etc.
While you or I, on the other hand, can come up with NEW, Very New and Unheard of criteria.
Just some decades ago we didn't have any computing. And now computers do trillions of calculations per second. It's probable that the same thing will happen to human level thinking. When computers produce so much intelligence, the whole humanity quickly becomes invisible. No one will ever hear an intelligent thought of a human being, because it's so minuscule, just like compared to what a human can calculate compared to a computer. I think it's fascinating. Also very likely the near future.
Johnathan Bi is a very erudite young philosopher. I fully agree with him that we can factor AI content creation into our living, cultural philosophy, for now. But, come AGI or the Singularity, who knows what will transpire?………
Love it
"Walk it like you Talk it"...
Now I can’t unhear Peter Zeihan 😂
Fantastic.
Refreshing presentation, but I've asked Grok to tell me where Rene Girard's wife is from and it keeps giving me wrong answers!