Want an EV that doesn't drive like an electric appliance? Look no further than the Taycan family. It gets some updates for 2023 and we finally get behind the wheel of this very lightly optioned base Taycan 4 Cross Turismo. Yes, its still slightly over $100,000, but all of the goodness from the very expensive Taycan GTS and Turbo models are evident here.
@@snakeeyes9246 How do you know? Shelf life in "ideal" temps of lithium batteries is 10-12 years....so the idea they will even last that long under EV use is dubious.
I have to admit that I would need a large shoehorn to get me into this vehicle and the “jaws of life” to get me out but the driving experience would probably be second to none. Great review, always the best, most detailed reviews in the industry.
I love these cars and excited to see Porsche going all electric but their price points are out of control. How can the above average income person and or even someone making $250-300k per year afford this car? Even the base model with a few options is over $100k. Feels like most people and even those in the upper middle class are getting priced out of the electric and hybrid markets. Average car now costs $50k and that barely gets you a Kia.
True, EV’s are pricey, but if you’re making $200k+ a year, you should be able to afford one of these, provided you don’t live extravagantly, nor have too many kids!
@@hockey1freak a single person making $200k could very well have this car. it’s all about discretionary income. whether or not they should have it isn’t any of my business.
The Porsche Taycan Sport and Cross Turismo versions never looked "weird" on videos and photos, dude! Seemingly you have no fucking clue about Porsche design or premium design in general! Only some "weird Americans" find the Sport and Cross Turismo looking "weird". These EVs just look amazing in proportions and design quality!
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Power steering column adjustment is missing in your test review vehicle because of parts shortages in Europe, that's one of the small handful of options that have been sacrificed in some customer cars just to move them out of the factory and deliver into customer hands. I believe it can be retrofitted at dealership later
7:40 ... the electrochromic glass in the roof is NOT standard in the US ... it's a $3200 option in the US... At 10:40, you say that the steering wheel adjustment is manual only in that car, but did you try finding the electric lever underneath? ...because it's supposed to be an electronic moving steering wheel with the 14-way seats... [Edit: wow, I stand corrected after seeing you move the steering wheel column manually... that's not how it arrived in my 2022 CT4 with 14-way seats -- it's electronic! Perhaps they changed it due to the chip shortage?]
Superlatively informative video as all yours are Sofyan - and why I have subscribed to your channel a long time. Love your enthusiasm for sports cars, which you bring to and share with us. Well done again!
Yea I love the colors and graphics in the infotainment. Not impressed with the overall look of the exterior but I am impressed that this is a base model and I love the interior waaayyyyy more than my Model 3.
Great Video. One of the best I've seen. You did a great job on the details. I like the Turismo. My brother has a 4S taycan and I'm debating between the 4S and the Taycan 4 Cross Turismo
As far as Taycan range goes, I have a 2021 4S Cross Turismo and I'm getting 250-260 miles real world range with combined mixed driving. The EPA estimates way underrate range
A well-equipped Cross Turismo 4S is $130k, OTD $140k (0-60 in 3.5) (A well-equipped GTS costs as much as the Turbo, so why bother?) A well-equipped Cross Turismo Turbo is $170k, OTD more than $180k (0-60 in 2.9) A well-equipped Cross Turismo Turbo S is $200k, OTD more than $215k (0-60 in 2.4)
You can make the case this the ultimate Swiss Army Knife of the EV World It's a well-built luxury car, drives like a sports car, is a practical wagon/crossover with AWD, and an EV It is several cars in one, and is priced as such
28:19 These are preproduction estimates at best. The base and S are identically equipped besides the motors with a price difference (as of Nov 2022) of over $15,000. Even if you are comparing your mildly optioned tester to an non-optioned S, the price difference is still way more than $2000. Tou literally pay $15,000 just for the extra 93hp and an S badge...no upgraded wheels, no additional color keyed body parts, the diffusers/spoilers/etc are all the same, same brakes, same seats....you get the picture. 6-8 grand I can see, but not $15k.
Not really a fan of where the transmission control is. Would have rather had a nicer looking set of buttons/knobs down where you would normally find them on the consol.
I absolutely love the Taycan. However, that grey interior looks so cheap and reminds me of older Kia/Hyundias. The rest of the Cross Turismo is quite nice. If I were buying one, I would definitely go with the nicer interior colors and textures. Great video.
Very nice, but Porsche has a ways to go to keep up with Tesla and a few others that have 30% better range and way more HP. The specs on this vehicle are about the same as my Hybrid daily driver car for 1/5 the price.
@@MrDantab1980 Most of Tesla's issues are all around the self driving systems. Take away those issues and they have a way fewer maintenance issues than the competition. And for that money! Yikes, I want much higher performance.
@@TheLaw_11 Yes for the first 4 or 5 years, which is not unusual for a startup. They have fixed those problems. The Tesla technology is truly groundbreaking for the auto industry. They started the EV revolution right here is the USA. Easily the best startup company in the last 30 years.
Porsche has always targeted the successful small to medium successful business person. Well healed full law partners and speciality surgeons buy / lease Porsches. The upper middle class can access the products but they have to be more discretionary on options and models. Of course the super rich buy whatever the heck they want, multi-million dollar hyper cars become part of their collection.
@@Waldo1122 that's all bullcrap... Nobody is driving fast enough to worry about aerodynamics. Like the door handles are really making it more efficient...all I have to do is add another passenger of 150lbs and your cheap aero wheels and flush door handles mean nothing.
Porsche website is sooooo slow that it hangs for hours so you can't really customize anything because its slow to load... took 2 hours to get anything done... LOL
@Black Lighting .... +1. Agreed... Haven't "cottoned" up to the Porsche electric automobiles yet. .. Me?... A lifelong Porsche Fan & owner. .. Our older '98 Carrera S (993) coupe I'll drive until death... When the electric shit gets a soul,, call me. .. Cheers, Vail, Colorado
i don't get it? why is everyone so excited by these cars, when the same company produce the turbos se ehyrid - it has double the range and is faster at 3.2/4 to 60 and low 11s quarter mile and better carbon footprint than all electric car. Ive driven both the ev feels more like a go kart, but the panamera is close to it in handling. For driving across countries the panemera is way more practical and a better GT car in my view because of this.
I've owned a Kia EV6 GT-Line for 6 months now. My car has a rated 0 to 60 time of 4.6 seconds (in Sport mode). I'm here to tell you that anything better than a 5 second time is completely unnecessary for public roads, and is nothing more than bragging rights. To be honest, vehicles with less than 4 seconds 0 to 60 times are likely to be a hazard for a whole bunch of drivers out there who have no idea how to handle such power.
Want an EV that doesn't drive like an electric appliance? Look no further than the Taycan family. It gets some updates for 2023 and we finally get behind the wheel of this very lightly optioned base Taycan 4 Cross Turismo. Yes, its still slightly over $100,000, but all of the goodness from the very expensive Taycan GTS and Turbo models are evident here.
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So I'll assume you've driven an appliance...
This will be the absolute best used car of five years from now
Just in time for the battery to need to be replaced. :)
@@nickb3968 the battery will last 2 to 3 times as long as that.
@@snakeeyes9246 How do you know? Shelf life in "ideal" temps of lithium batteries is 10-12 years....so the idea they will even last that long under EV use is dubious.
@@snakeeyes9246 You have proof and warranty for that?
@@nickb3968 there's a lot of first year Tesla model s' who are running around with 90% of their original range no problem
I have to admit that I would need a large shoehorn to get me into this vehicle and the “jaws of life” to get me out but the driving experience would probably be second to none. Great review, always the best, most detailed reviews in the industry.
I love these cars and excited to see Porsche going all electric but their price points are out of control. How can the above average income person and or even someone making $250-300k per year afford this car? Even the base model with a few options is over $100k. Feels like most people and even those in the upper middle class are getting priced out of the electric and hybrid markets. Average car now costs $50k and that barely gets you a Kia.
True, EV’s are pricey, but if you’re making $200k+ a year, you should be able to afford one of these, provided you don’t live extravagantly, nor have too many kids!
This isn’t meant for the average folk ;)
@@clothestravel if you make 200k a year theres no way you should be buying a 100k car
@@hockey1freak a single person making $200k could very well have this car. it’s all about discretionary income. whether or not they should have it isn’t any of my business.
It’s a Porsche….. stop expecting them to be priced like a Honda this brand was never made for “regular” folk
That first couple seconds of the video make the car look giant next to you hahaha
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honestly the car looks wierd in videos and photos but if you ever see it in person, you are blown away
The Porsche Taycan Sport and Cross Turismo versions never looked "weird" on videos and photos, dude!
Seemingly you have no fucking clue about Porsche design or premium design in general!
Only some "weird Americans" find the Sport and Cross Turismo looking "weird".
These EVs just look amazing in proportions and design quality!
Bullshit! The Cross Turismo looks even better than the standard Taycan... Even on pictures.
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Power steering column adjustment is missing in your test review vehicle because of parts shortages in Europe, that's one of the small handful of options that have been sacrificed in some customer cars just to move them out of the factory and deliver into customer hands. I believe it can be retrofitted at dealership later
This will be my first Porsche All-electric car.
Great job with your car walkthroughs Sofyan.
Same
i ordered the GTS last month. lets see how long it takes to get here
$110k and manual tilt/tele steering wheel? Your usual excellent thorough review.
Chip shortage. My '22 has power.
7:40 ... the electrochromic glass in the roof is NOT standard in the US ... it's a $3200 option in the US... At 10:40, you say that the steering wheel adjustment is manual only in that car, but did you try finding the electric lever underneath? ...because it's supposed to be an electronic moving steering wheel with the 14-way seats... [Edit: wow, I stand corrected after seeing you move the steering wheel column manually... that's not how it arrived in my 2022 CT4 with 14-way seats -- it's electronic! Perhaps they changed it due to the chip shortage?]
Superlatively informative video as all yours are Sofyan - and why I have subscribed to your channel a long time. Love your enthusiasm for sports cars, which you bring to and share with us. Well done again!
I would have upgraded the interior, this one is really basic
I have the older taycan s on Gran Turismo 7 I wonder if this version will appear sometime....I added a wing and upped the computer to produce 750 HP
Yea I love the colors and graphics in the infotainment. Not impressed with the overall look of the exterior but I am impressed that this is a base model and I love the interior waaayyyyy more than my Model 3.
Great Video. One of the best I've seen. You did a great job on the details. I like the Turismo. My brother has a 4S taycan and I'm debating between the 4S and the Taycan 4 Cross Turismo
As far as Taycan range goes, I have a 2021 4S Cross Turismo and I'm getting 250-260 miles real world range with combined mixed driving. The EPA estimates way underrate range
What do you get if you don't drive on highways -- only city/suburban driving < 40 mph? I'm assuming that you can get > 300 miles in such driving...
A well-equipped Cross Turismo 4S is $130k, OTD $140k (0-60 in 3.5)
(A well-equipped GTS costs as much as the Turbo, so why bother?)
A well-equipped Cross Turismo Turbo is $170k, OTD more than $180k (0-60 in 2.9)
A well-equipped Cross Turismo Turbo S is $200k, OTD more than $215k (0-60 in 2.4)
The Cross Turismo (or Sport Turismo in the case of the GTS) is about $3,000 more expensive than its sedan equivalent to start.
You can make the case this the ultimate Swiss Army Knife of the EV World
It's a well-built luxury car, drives like a sports car, is a practical wagon/crossover with AWD, and an EV
It is several cars in one, and is priced as such
The black area with the functional vents around the headlight remind me of Jiraiya the Pervy Sage. If you know, you know. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
A big fan
It looks more like a hatchback rather than a wagon. My ‘59 Porsche had a trunk in the front, does Porsche actually call the trunk a frunk now?
I've heard some journalists call this a "shooting brake". I have only seen 2 Cross Turismo's in person, and I agree with that name.
@@snakeeyes9246 It does look like what the UK calls a Shooting Brake.
28:19 These are preproduction estimates at best. The base and S are identically equipped besides the motors with a price difference (as of Nov 2022) of over $15,000. Even if you are comparing your mildly optioned tester to an non-optioned S, the price difference is still way more than $2000. Tou literally pay $15,000 just for the extra 93hp and an S badge...no upgraded wheels, no additional color keyed body parts, the diffusers/spoilers/etc are all the same, same brakes, same seats....you get the picture. 6-8 grand I can see, but not $15k.
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I’m a little surprised that the steering wheel is manually adjusted at this price
Yeah the dealer told me this was because of the chip shortage.
One pedal driving....if I wanted a golf cart....I would of bought a golf cart.
Not really a fan of where the transmission control is. Would have rather had a nicer looking set of buttons/knobs down where you would normally find them on the consol.
It looks so cheap with those plastic fenders.
When will it be Lucid Air Sapphire?
Variable Light Control (VLC) is most certainly not standard and is a $3000+ option.
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And you get air suspension, which isn't standard on the RWD.
I absolutely love the Taycan. However, that grey interior looks so cheap and reminds me of older Kia/Hyundias. The rest of the Cross Turismo is quite nice. If I were buying one, I would definitely go with the nicer interior colors and textures. Great video.
The Tesla Model S needs a rear seat footwell like the Porsche Taycan has for added legroom
Luxury cars nickel and diming on options is crazy
I love that sport and cross Turismo variants of the Panamera and Taycan. I suspect, however, that 90% of these sold are the regular sedan body style.
Maybe in the USA... Here in Europe, most Taycan customers will buy the Sport and Cross Turismo versions.
Very nice, but Porsche has a ways to go to keep up with Tesla and a few others that have 30% better range and way more HP. The specs on this vehicle are about the same as my Hybrid daily driver car for 1/5 the price.
@@MrDantab1980 Most of Tesla's issues are all around the self driving systems. Take away those issues and they have a way fewer maintenance issues than the competition. And for that money! Yikes, I want much higher performance.
@@MTB_Rider_96 nope. Tesla has more the self driving issues. The panels don't line up. Fit and finish is poor compared to many other brands.
@@TheLaw_11 Yes for the first 4 or 5 years, which is not unusual for a startup. They have fixed those problems. The Tesla technology is truly groundbreaking for the auto industry. They started the EV revolution right here is the USA. Easily the best startup company in the last 30 years.
$110,000 USD LOL...................................
Your comments in anything Porsche is clearly transparent about your inane hostility to the brand.
Great review
I'm going to guess we'll see more multi speed transmissions in EVs as time goes on....
regardless of price seems even the extreme reviewers like this vehicle. so must have a specialness regardless of price
It's creepy how you slowly approach the video camera.
A charger at this speed is about 77 miles away from where I live. Lol nice infrastructure.
Sofyan I was driving today and saw somebody that looks just like you
I think the 4 is $97.7k and the 4S Cross Turismo is $113K
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Overpriced Li-ion battery on wheels
Hey I also have the Costco Visa credit card!
Looks like it has back rolls
Porsche has always targeted the successful small to medium successful business person. Well healed full law partners and speciality surgeons buy / lease Porsches. The upper middle class can access the products but they have to be more discretionary on options and models. Of course the super rich buy whatever the heck they want, multi-million dollar hyper cars become part of their collection.
variable light control is nor standard on any trim.
0-60 speed and range are a bit of a let down. The car itself is nice but those numbers need to be better for the price.
A 6000 dollar premium package but no leather or race-Tex interior? #fail
The range 👎
EVs always have the most hideous wheels
Need good aerodynamics to get those claimed ranges.
@@Waldo1122 that's all bullcrap... Nobody is driving fast enough to worry about aerodynamics. Like the door handles are really making it more efficient...all I have to do is add another passenger of 150lbs and your cheap aero wheels and flush door handles mean nothing.
@@HDHQDIRECT Tesla aero wheels add about 10-15 miles. No doubt these Porsche ones add roughly the same.
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The range of 200 plus for EV's, and that's a selling point? Really! Out of town road trips will be scrapped, and retail $80 to $110. Sorry, not a fan
Nailed it
I Have 500 mile range on My Kia Optima...if I had 1,000lbs of fuel like the battery.. my range would be 4000 miles at 25mpg.
I'm really bored hearing about that everthing is looking basic. It is the BASIC version.
Whatnot
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NGL I'd be able to take you a lot more seriously if you didn't wear shorts like that.
Porsche website is sooooo slow that it hangs for hours so you can't really customize anything because its slow to load... took 2 hours to get anything done... LOL
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Not a big fan
@Black Lighting .... +1. Agreed... Haven't "cottoned" up to the Porsche electric automobiles yet. .. Me?... A lifelong Porsche Fan & owner. .. Our older '98 Carrera S (993) coupe I'll drive until death... When the electric shit gets a soul,, call me. .. Cheers, Vail, Colorado
Love the exterior…hate the electronic dash, ugly as fuck.
i don't get it? why is everyone so excited by these cars, when the same company produce the turbos se ehyrid - it has double the range and is faster at 3.2/4 to 60 and low 11s quarter mile and better carbon footprint than all electric car. Ive driven both the ev feels more like a go kart, but the panamera is close to it in handling. For driving across countries the panemera is way more practical and a better GT car in my view because of this.
Not worth the price.
I for one am not paying 1 cent more than $125,000. 😠
Yikes this is the most basic Porsche I’ve ever seen … they really gotta nickel and dime you eh?
Gotta stop saying "engine" and "powertrain" when doing these EV reviews lol.
I know right? It's getting very annoying.
It has a power train. Transmission
A capable expensive ugly looking car.
I guess you haven't seen a Tesla...your really gonna be disappointed.
@@HDHQDIRECT agree with you there.
I've owned a Kia EV6 GT-Line for 6 months now. My car has a rated 0 to 60 time of 4.6 seconds (in Sport mode). I'm here to tell you that anything better than a 5 second time is completely unnecessary for public roads, and is nothing more than bragging rights. To be honest, vehicles with less than 4 seconds 0 to 60 times are likely to be a hazard for a whole bunch of drivers out there who have no idea how to handle such power.