How Does It Feel To Ride A Bike Made Out Of Wood?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ม.ค. 2021
- Bike frames can be made of many different materials: carbon, aluminium, steel, titanium, magnesium...& wood?! Si took this amazing Ash framed Twmpa Cycles GR1.0 for a spin to see how it compares to a more traditional frame material. WOOD you like to know what he thought? Do you think other bike brands should BRANCH out into wooden frames? LEAF a comment below if you liked this video!
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WOOD you ride this bike? Let us know your thoughts in the comments below!
Absolutely
I wood have to leaf that one alone. But I'd root for whoever rode it!
Yes I wood and what a great review again
yes cause i have no road bike and broke af
Sure
Technically, this is a carbon bike
Carbon, hydrogen, oxigen...
Best comment! A million thumb’s up to you.
This gave me a good chuckle
As a scientist cyclist, I appreciate this hot take
now it's 96 instead
I thought of the same thing (engineer)
I love that the owner is an engineer not a salesman, this comes though in his honesty in his interview!
Don't be so stupid of course he's a salesman
What on earth are you on about? he is dodgy about answering straight question like the how does it compare to steel in strength. Instead of telling the truth which is that it's far weaker he basically talked jibber jabber about wall thickness and eventually said that it is a suitable material for building bikes ultimately dodging the actual question entirely.
@@Sirpesari amateurs don't realise the difference between salesmen and GOOD salesmen
@@Sirpesari the answer is "strong enough"
@@cleveland2286 Which would have been fine if the question would have been "is it strong enough" But as it was how does it compare to steel, then it's not answering the question.
"cant wait to find out what it's like to ride!"
20 minutes later: "Feels like a bike"
ah yes, the bike is made out of bike
Feels a bit wooden.
@@daz3434b loll
Sad
That bike is absolutely gorgeous. The joins are beautiful, in comparison to the normal welds. I would love to get one,
Bike: Wanna go for a ride?
Me: You son of a birch, I'm in.
Lmao
Lmao
Oakay.
Excuse me?
@@birchtree5884 Dad?
The bike is a total looker. Absolutely stunning! Beautiful craftsmanship.
awesome
A thing of absolute beauty. Love the fact that Si just basically wants to know "Can you make it Aero?"
I am a guita builder and the process of made it aero its possible. even you could build the handlebar and the bicycle fork aero to...
Damn didn't know I needed a wooden bike until just now 😍
Screw carbon fiber, it's time for hydrocarbon fiber.
Fiberglass? 😂
@@pineapplej7310 Not really, technically a hydrocarbon can only be made from carbon and hydrogen, like octane, methane, and benzene. Wood is mostly made of cellulose, which is a polysaccharide polymer. It doesn't work as well for the joke though
@@pineapplej7310 Nice, glad to know I'm talking with a real intellectual here
@@pineapplej7310 I wasn’t even trying to one-up you; remembering some stuff from high school Chem isn’t exactly an achievement worthy of boasting about but I thought some people might go “Huh, that’s interesting” even if it’s not exactly a earth-shattering fact. This comment thread doesn’t belong to you and not every correction is a personal attack
@@pineapplej7310 stop crying because you didn't know what you were talking about
As a bass guitarist, I've spent a fair chunk of cash on wood over the years and I can say from my experience in that field, that £3000ish for this frame, with that level of design detail and craftsmanship is an absolute bargain.
I wouldn't call it a bargain, but I don't think it's overpriced. Boutique bass guitars isn't really an accurate benchmark.
@@TheEchelon it is at the very least a reasonable benchmark for the price of fine woodworking.
right there with you, sucks when both your hobbies are expensive. Helps that basses don't get broken like bike parts do, at least mtb parts.
Agree. My custom bass in the picture did cost 2.400 € and it doesn't even have a single wheel and wants to be carried around instead of carrying me 🤭.
i was expecting 5 or 6...was sure of this. 3 seems like a steal. no pun.
Wood has complex micro cellular structure. It would be very expensive to create such material, but the nature does it for us with it's DNA engineering.
I have had a wooden bike for the last 5 years. It's the nicest bike i have ever owned. I love cycling and wanted to get a bike i loved riding too and the Woodello (brand i have) was perfect for that. I am never going to win a tour, i hold my own with my mates and even drop them on sprints and down hill, on their carbon bikes. The bike even got me round the etape in 2017, what could of been lonely day, my bike was a great ice breaker. Its also beautiful to look at and after 5 years i am still not board with it.
Bikes should be functional and beautiful, that looks like it's both.
That IS the secret to a great bike, imo.
I prefer functional and ugly, so my bike doesn't get stolen
@@imnothere202 lol
I actually don't think it looks beautiful. Better than many junks but can't beat any vintage bike.
Is there anything more British than an engineer building a wooden bike in his shed? Excellent stuff. And I think £3k for a frame is great value for such craftsmanship.
😂 when you put it that way...
Craftmanship probably 90% done by the CNC 🌚
@@Schumeyyy As an engineer who has built and operates a CNC, I can assure you, the craftsmanship still belongs to the man.
@@swolebro As a woman who runs a cnc, I can attest that having a penis has nothing to do with it.
@@doxielain2231 - Every man - except a tiny fraction who’s minds you’ll never change - know gender in this instance is irrelevant. Shouting it from the rooftops is unnecessary, boring, and makes you appear insecure.
It's gorgeous !! i'd love to own one, that jigsaw joinery on the tubes WOW!!
What a stunning Bike. I'm a Luthier and enthusiastic Road biker. Wood is such an amazing Material and its pleasure work with.
This is great Craftsmanship Work. great respect for having this Vision and Building this beautiful Bike.
Chapeau ......
The opening, the two first 2 sentences... you see Si is back to making quality classic timeless GCN videos that truly inspire the matured audiences. Thanks
Sometimes its not about the weight of the bike but how the bike makes you feel when riding it. 👍
Absolutely!
Nailed it!
oh i disagree
@@sawyerramos3113 bike snoooob
@@karlovuja5034 lol well, the weight of the bike impacts the way it makes you feel. simple physics.
We need more people like this. Absolutely beautiful craftsmanship and showing the world what's possible. I've seen wooden bikes before but this is the first one I've wanted to own and ride.
That's the thing, most other wooden bikes are made to be a gimmick, a show piece more than a bike. This man just built a really good bike that happens to be made out of wood.
This is awesome. And well done to Si for asking all the right questions on material/construction. Anything to make bikes more sustainable is worth investigating and investing in... from an ecological standpoint.
Man those Chris King bourbon parts look so trick on that frame. That is one beautiful machine. 100% Hot (but don’t get it too hot hey..?)
It looks tree'mendous, i 'wood' love to have one.
I hope his business 'branches' out.
Serously though, it's looks amazing.
Definitely a desirable bike and a bike for the times.
Tree'mendous, that's a good one, lol.
The factory has branch offices all over
I mean... the bike looks Oak-kay to me. I wouldn’t birch-chase it personally.
Shut up
@@jsal7666 I'm rooting for you
I’d like to have one of these in my lifetime, for sure. Beautiful celebration of wood as a material combined with the joy of cycling-count me in
Simply gorgeous, and friendly to the planet, too?! Would love to own one, park it on the wall for those special occasions.
Friendly, how? That tree could absorb carbon dioxide and now cyclist will breathe more deeply and often, polluting air)
Wood is basically nature's composite. It definitely has a chance for a comeback, especially since its ecological footprint is not as abysmal as carbon. I mean they built jets in the '40s out of it!
If you are referring to the HE-162 then an emergency aircraft which experienced significant structural issues causing multiple crashes and delays to development probably isn't the best example to use.
@@Rover200Power he didn’t say he162?
@@Rover200Power Hm, didn't even think of the Spatz/Salamander... If I remember correctly, the Germans were having a lot of problems with the corrosive nature of their bonding agents and improperly cured wood.
I was thinking about the DeHavilland Venom and Vampire, where the fuselage was built out of wood. And with 4400 Vampires and 1400 Venoms built, quite proven. They were the final step in a history of wooden aircraft at DeHavilland, that contains a lot of famous and record breaking aircraft. And people are even today building kit-aircraft with wooden spars.
Unfortunately carbon is the choice material of making the quickest and biggest profit.There are some rare exceptions.
@@spoeny good call, I was thinking of WW2 jet aircraft and completely forgot about anything else. My step-grandfather was a test pilot on the Vampire, he wouldn't be impressed!
i actually want one.. that would be quite the talking point and a bit of a flex rolling up to the lads on one of these badboys
One of the reasons engineers have steered clear of wood in structural application is that it is a variable material. However, lamination is a tried and tested strategy for averaging out that variability, as was proved by the wooden Mosquito aircraft during WW2; Stunning performance and made by cabinet makers. So yes, no basis for any unthinking stigma ( 'a wooden performance' etc) against nature's solution to demanding and dynamic structural applications, or 'trees' as we usually call them.
Appears to me that advancements in manufacturing technology, plus this guy's passion, are the real keys to this.
Thanks Chris. You're right that digital design and manufacturing are the key
This looks like a perfect mix of top engineering and art!
A truly outstanding video. A mature, even sophisticated examination not just of a bike material, but of what bikes and biking even are. For some, simple metrics about weight or drag or cost are the primary considerations. But for those who ride for fun and adventure and even emotional considerations, something like this is exciting. As Si noted, there is a lot more than novelty to this. Hearing the thoughts of such a knowledgeable builder, placing it in an environmental and even ethical context, noting the looks of it, and of course hearing about the ride properties all add up to a compelling subject. Would I own one? Absolutely.
Wow! Beautiful. I nearly fell off my chair when he said they were tubes! I thought it would be mostly solid! WANT!
This is my new favourite bike. It's an absolute work of art, the best looking bike I've seen
That's a lovely bike. And I truly appreciate the engineer-designer going deep into the details and a coherent way. His passion and knowledge is clear.
Wow, such a statement to ride a wooden gravel bike - using nature as a tool to explore off the man-made path. Outstanding!
This most interesting thing, other then a completely wooden frame, is how the designer didn’t denounce other manufacturers for using carbon in their wooden frames. On a side note aircraft have been and some are still made from wood, most famously the De Havilland Mosquito.
It's interesting though, my brain has no problem working out why the high-volume ribbed box structure of an aircraft wing or fuselage is immensely strong, but still has trouble looking at the seatstays on this bike. And that's after having owned a Bamboo one for 4 years!
He's using a carbon fork for the wood bike. Right?
I agree. I loved that when he was talking about builders who do a combo carbon and wood he said “well, every way of building a bike is legitimate.” It really shows he has a passion, a vision, but not an axe to grind. Very cool.
Work of art
Stunning, isn't it!
Honestly the nicest thing about the bike is the look
Well all you can do on youtube is look at it
Paint a carbon frame to look like wood! Best of both 👍🏻
And the vibration dampening.
beautiful . Classic design , craftsmanship ,would ride anytime if I had a chance, would be the envy of the other riders , it is a bike just made with natural wood .Hats off to the Gentleman who made the bike . Kudo,s
I don’t think I have ever seen you look so happy! Very impressed. Beautifully designed and put together, isn’t it? Really special. And for a top quality, low volume bike (even if not top performance), 3k is reasonable, given the quality of all the fittings (assuming they are part of the price). Amazing thing. Fantastic thing!
Thanks for your comments, although I would argue that our bikes are 'top performance' in the gravel/allroad category that they sit in.
Price for the frame is £2350 (less costly than most handbuilt frames) and sadly, the components alone cost me more than 3k!
Si has now officially crossed over to a full fledge “tree hugger”. Gorgeous bike!
I disagree, because a tree was harmed in the making of this bike.
3k for the frame? That's actually not as bad as I thought, especially as they only produce 30 a year
I bet you buy one if you've a 3k for a bike, you'd probably go for titanium.
I bet after this video they bump it up the production to 100 or even more due to publicity. And may cost more due to low supply
so he makes 90k a year.
Means he probably works alone or maybe has 1 Employee.
So its a small start up.
Wait a few years and the prices will drop with the economie of scale.
Half what I paid for my Renovo Aerowood!
@@GabrieLight Great titanium bikes are more than 3k for the frame. Moots make premium titanium bikes and they're double that price
I did not think I'd like this video as much. It captures the spirit about bike riding and building . Massive thumbs up. Great looking bike!
Stunning... made by a true artists with passion for both the material and the machine... I want one !
Si did a fantastic job presenting too. Geeking out. Love it
I would LOVE to own a bike that. Such a good looking bike and having the ride quality of a steel bike while being light.
this is the most beautiful thing i saw today! got goosbumps of its beauty!
If you can smash 6's with a cricket bat then I cant see why wood couldn't be strong resilient material choice for bikes.
This looks like just the bike james may would want...
We gotta share this video to him
Actually Hammond is the guy who has a morgan, which is the car famous for still having a wooden frame
@@Finnspin_unicycles Hammond and Morgan are local to Twmpa Cycles and this bike featured in Top Gear's Morgan Plus 4 review on their Top Gear website
He has an Orbea Orca and a Giant TCR. Yes, it's a bit weird that I know this.
@@murphytoonz I know that too lol
What a beautiful piece of engineering 👏 😍 Well done that man !!
Got to love this one. I am happy to own a carbon MTB, a Titanium commuter, but this wooden beauty would fit in just perfectly. I love wood projects, and this is done so clever.
Amazing, gorgeous workmanship! Thanks Si and GCN for spotlighting this bike. I've built and read about bamboo bikes and as I understand it, it is the glue-like material that binds the wood fibers together, called lignin, which has the vibration damping properties.
As someone who cares about the planet we all live on I would welcome the opportunity to not only ride one, but be an advocate to see more sustainable materials in the sports, and activities we love. Love this bike, I'll be watching this company.
Unfortunately the most sustainable, least toxic bike is welded steel. It degrades into rust which is harmless
The thing is a B-E-A-U-T-Y. My father was a carpenter whole life, I can appreciate a good woodwork. Definetely would gift this bike to my dad, he’d definetely appreciate it. Unfortunately cancer got in front of me a few years ago. 😢 But I think I will get one, one day as a tribute.
you had us in the first half ... you still have our hearts in the second :) RIP
Ayo dude condonlences to u
About 10 years ago I was at a bicycle Co-op in DC, the frist time I seen a wooden bike...(It was just the bicycle frame)... Custom build from Africa. I would love to ride one. Great interview.
As a woodworker I now want to make a wood bike. Ash is the perfect choice for something like this. It’s strong and can flex a great deal without breaking.
The Maker put a ton of time into designing the joints and his skill is obvious.
Also technically this is a carbon fiber bike.
Thankyou GCN! Currently building a wood recumbent in Australia using Tasmanian Oak laminated sections with a balsa core. It's amazing how light and beautiful wooden bikes can be. Hope to see more of them
Nice. Will you do a video on it when you are done?
Eventually I plan on making some composites out of a combo of bamboo, S-glass fiberglass, bio based epoxy, and carboninzed cellulose nanocrystals (made at home). Not sure I'm going to do a bicycle though. First build is going to be an E-scooter powered by home made batteries and/or homemade super caps with solar panel on a super light weight trailer.
All the way through that video I was thinking, I wonder if he would make recumbents as well
The bike you end up loving and being the one possession you save in the event of a fire.
would totally go for an aero one, internal cables, rim brake. I hope these bike will conquer the market soon! Totally worth the price!
That's absolutely amazing. When you do a very long ride, you have a lot of empathy with your bike. You feel it, you read it. I think it would make a nice difference on a trek out. It was once a tree. It was once alive. I bet it's a fantastic ride experience in a natural environment setting. I love it!
Absolutely f... great. An absolute masterpiece. Would love to ride one, to own one. Na, two. One for the road, one for my living room wall.
Stoked for you Si, and super jealous. Wood, and bamboo are the two bikes I really really want to take for a ride.
Excellent work! Huge perseverance on the builders part. I designed a wooden track bike but it only exists in Solidworks. GR1.0 has got me motivated again. I am going to finish my wooden laminate track bike.
Good luck!
Material microstructure, stress concentration, grain orientation. This man is speaking the right vocabulary and clearly knows his stuff.
I would suggest that the manufacturer call this bike the "Mosquito" the name of the wooden RAF fighter that was one of the fastest and most successful planes during WW2. It too was built by British woodworkers and cabinet makers and out of the need to avoid the use of war scarce aluminum.
This is the first bike on gcn that I've gone away, before the video ends to look at their website...I want one 🥺
I would absolutely love to have a wooden bike like this one. GCN should put this bike on different challenges: climbing, descent, sprinting, etc
Absolutely, bring it on
I’ve actually wanted to build a wood bike for a long time. After watching the video, I see why I haven’t! To do it right like this, you obviously need the proper tooling and engineering knowledge. I felt you did an honest run down and comparison in regard to materials, etc. Beautiful work....would love to own and ride one!!
Bamboo is like wood, and much easier to make frames from. I think the strength to weight ratio might beat ash out by at least a bit, as well.
Also, if you combine bamboo with S-glass fiberglass (stronger tensile and Young modulus strengths than regular E glass fiberglass; about 25% more for both I think!), high quality epoxy, and carbonized cellulose nanocrystals (fairly easy to make at home), you can up the strengths and lower the weight as compared to an all bamboo bike. You can start to approach carbon fiber in strength to weight ratio but at a much lower cost. And if you harvest your own bamboo, definitely way cheaper. You would only need to add like 2 wraps of 4 oz/yd2 S-glass fiberglass cloth, and 2% by weight to the epoxy of the carbonized CNC's to really reinforce the bamboo core.
As a gravel rider, this interests me in so many ways. Its green aspects, engineering and ride feel all seem to be the perfect package in this machine. Not to mention, the thing is stunning to admire.
I would ride the hell out of this. Funny that you put this video out now. I did a search on wooden bikes just yesterday. Do you read my mind? Finally a quality video!
Just happened to me with the bike painting vid lol
I work for the fbi and I decided to make him do a video on it
HOT! Absolutely would be proud to own one. “Wood” love to see him present a painted one on a blind test to a test rider who doesn’t know the material...could be intriguing.
It is amazing that some of the materials with the best balance of properties are provided to us by nature!
The man he is talking about is Rob Penn :) Its all about the bike is written by Rob Penn. A great guy
This looks great! Also really appreciate that there was actually some engineering-talk in this video!
Sadly those bikes are a bit out of budgget at the moment...
Awesome review of this unique piece of art and dedication.
I completely agree that the bike is not just a bike, it is part of us and there value to our personalities and hearts. It does not matter if it is 500 grams heavier than other frames, if you like and love it, nothing can change this fact.
Every now and again I’m reminded why I watched GCN videos in the first place.. step forward Si Richardson.. nice one and thanks.. 🚴
This is beautiful, the passion and craftsmanship are both the past and future of cycling.
I have been waiting for this kinda video for so long.
ill start saving money now..and I want exactly the same set-up like this test unit. sweet ride HOT
What an awesome looking bike, more like a piece of art. That's a proper head-turner.
The contrast of brown wood color against the black fork, wheels and seat post is aesthetically amazing
Does look a beautiful bike though 😍
I love the idea of this product. I love the ethos of it as well. Well done.
I hope to see thousands of them some day. How cool would that be? Craftsmanship, technology and nature all in one!
Genius engineering, truly a masterpiece
gorgeous is still not a strong enough word, i love the ethos and "sustainability" of the frame, would i buy one...no, because i dont have 3 grand, but if i did have that kind of cash to burn (no pun intended), i would not begrudge a single penny. this is why engineers are awesome (yes im a design engineer too)
nice video.. just have a fairy tail feeling about it. Nice weather, the location, the temperature, lighting, amazing background musics, there are just something unique about this review. Very nice.
This is just awesome design in every way. Absolutely fantastic, I'm so in awe.
Glad you enjoyed the video 🙌
Piece of art! If I get one that would go on the wall - just feels wrong riding it, yet how cool this would be smash through the local woods!!! (and catch those looks)
Great job uncle Andy, glad all your work is getting some love!
Nice one Barney, thanks for the support
I would certainly ride a wooden bike like that one - obviously well engineered and thought out - the designer obviously knows what he's on about and all power to his elbow. An excellent video; very enjoyable and informative.
It's a work of art. Beautiful build, especially the joinery. And quite functional and up to par with a high end steel bike. I'd ride it for sure.
Well done interview: good questions, sincere answers, GREAT editing!
Very interesting and beautiful bike. My only concern would be how the wood reacts to changes in temperature and humidity.
I thought the same things. How would it fare across weather and seasons?
If treated with epoxy it'll hold up perfectly. We build boats from cedar strips and epoxy. Parts of the hulls are permanently submerged, no problem.
it'll last forever
We have been working with wood for centuries. Humidity and wood is a solved problem.
@@videotosse you know wooden boats are hideously expensive to maintain then.
This frame is a work of art! Impressive!
Awesome bike! Not the first wooden bike, but definitely the most beautiful. Would really like this to go into slightly higher production capacity so it would compete more with carbon in terms of pricing! Great video GCN!
What an awesome bike!!!! Totally valid way to build a bike, and doing something good for the planet 👌
Stunning videography. Wonderfully cinematic. Almost like the top gear shows.
This is probably the first serious effort I've seen in making a wooden bicycle.
I hope the production ramps up as it will definitely bring down the price - wood is cheap and renewable. There is no reason why it shouldn't! I hope more people show a serious interest in buying one so that it comes down sooner than later.
I hope the next version comes out with wooden rims - in fact, I can't understand why this one hasn't as they can be ordered.
While at it, a wooden seat might be nice too - after all wooden seats are still one of the most common wooden products!
absolutely beautiful and functional too boot. Great work Twmpa