Volkswagen Golf 2017 1.5 TSI evo, GTD, GTI (ENG) - First Test Drive and Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- Volkswagen Golf 2017 is the face lifted version of the Mk7 Golf. The best-selling compact received a modest exterior update, but on the inside Volkswagen Golf is packed full of modern technologies. 2017 Golf can now be equipped with driver aids like the Traffic Jam Assist, which follows the car in front in traffic at speeds up to 60 km/h. With the new Discover Pro infotainment system driver gets access to online information. An important update is the 1.5 TSI engine, which may be a sign Volkswagen has reached a wall in the downsizing department. During the launch even I was also able to drive the refreshed Volkswagen Golf GTD and GTI.
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You combine excellent factual reviews with fun and entertainment. Great VW Golf review.
Great review. I don't think I've seen you this enthusiastic since you drove the Mustang.
Hi Marek, First time I have viewed one of your videos. I love your sense of humour coupled with the informative way you produce your test. Phil UK..........
excellent POV. was on the fence of getting a gti, your review nailed it. performance, comfort and fun factor. thanks!
Brilliant reviw Marek, like your style. Keep going!
Great review! You're officially my favourite car reviewer on TH-cam after the GTi segment. I suddenly want one! ;-)
So do I. It's a brilliant car.
Is it worth waiting for the facelifted version to come to the US?
Brian Farrington cz
Good as always. Thanx. Looking forward to your comment on 'new' Leon.
Finally! They put a turning signal to a Golf! Hope it's not an expensive option so Golf drivers can taste the responsible driving experience.
Nice review.
Thank you for explaining the truth / differences between the engines, Marek!
I for one am happy the 1.5 tsi will deliver better economy as I'm driving my 1.4 tsi 125 bhp almost only in the city and am always looking to get better economy without sacrificing a comfortable level of performance. It might not be as exciting as an GTI but it's a great engine for cruising and commute.
1.5 TSI feels slower than 1.4 TSI so you'd have to sacrifice some performance.
But keep in mind I got the 125bhp right now so the 150bhp will feel adequate I'm pretty sure ;). I don't even use all the power the 125bhp has to offer, how could I, there is a 50km/h limit in town.
Johannes Actually both are pretty much identical, 150hp version has slightly more ooomph at very high revs and that's about it. It's about torque and engine characteristics - 1.4 pulls nicely from the lowest revs while 1.5 feels sluggish, doesn't really like accelerating.
Okay, I'll take one for a spin soon. As I'm not a sporty driver I think I will not miss a thing and be happy with a better economy. I'd be really interested in the 130bhp blue motion version but there is no information on this one to find anywhere.
Johannes BlueMotion means longer gear ratios or some aerodynamic tweaks - none of them matter in the city.
Nice review Marek
+pete9b thanks.
I bought 2015 Golf SE,US spec,1.8 TSI,170 hp,6 speed Aisen auto.33000 miles,trouble free and brilliant performance.Listed for 26k+usd.Interesting to see the euro specs.
+Mike Cady 1.8 is a very good engine.
Brilliantly done. I have bought a 2018 golf R 😂😂😂
I wonder when these face-lifted versions (AND with digital cockpit) will arrive in the U.S.
1.5 T replaces 2 l. diesel on the whole American market. So that is the reason that the car is not a performer. Good move VW.
Thank you for the excellent review!
GTI is reigns over all others. The balance between everyday livable car and boy racer is a challenge they seem to get right. I like the new light and grill treatment, but would rather see real exhaust tips.
keep up the god work :D
love it. I have a golf vii 1.6tdi and is great.
hi marek. may be the gearbox ratios are different to the 1.4. that is very important ti know because gearboxes change a lot from on version to another. cheers mate
Review of Seat Leon or Ibiza 2017 please
Just wish they'd put oil & volts in that very large screen in the dash . Don't tell they can't !! A good performance car should have all the GAUGES !!! Even lesser models !!
Well done !
I agree, the only golf that I would bought is gti, and it is briliant. For other models tsi, tdi... new Astra, Megane 4 and Mazda 3 are better cars.
They're not.
Romanian car reviewers must watch your videos.!
Are there any Romanian channels I should check out?
Somewhat different style. Kind of like Autogeful, Ausfahrt.tv or my colleague Zachar from Autocentrum here in Poland.
Does the word "explicit" in Romanian mean the same as "in-depth"?
Yes, they are synonymous, but it`s about expressing their feelings, they tend to "fear" to say all they want to complain about a car. And also no references or jokes. :D
Your car market is about a third of ours, so I guess it's even more difficult for motoring media to remain profitable. Hence careful choice of words.
As for jokes and references, I find jokes about cars sound much better in English, than in Polish. And I sometimes get the impression at least some of my viewers would rather see a serious car review.
In fact right now I'm exchanging comments with a guy, who thinks I shouldn't joke about Civic Type R spoiler, because it's a 310 hp sports car. Probably he has an ironing board stuck to the back of his Calibra :)
:)) I have a WRC Rear spoiler on a fwd Skoda octavia 1 1.9TDI .
Anyway...you do a great job! You deserve a TV show.
good vid Marek...
haha, +Marek always says the truth, e.g. at 7:38 "and if you had a rough day...and you' d like to fool around a bit", haha, sometimes the car is the best psychologist :-) ...and if you are alone on the street, why not fool araound a bit, I really love the GTD (or GTI)
I've owned a VW Corrado 2.0 16V 150bhp 94M&VW Passat 1.8T Sport 150bhp 99T&VW Passat 1.9TDI 130bhp SE 03&VW Bora 1.6S but no Golf.
I am sad the new GTE will still use the old 1.4 instead of the new 1.5 engine. I think that would have been a much better fit for that sort of car.
I actually prefer the pre-face lift golfs more, the digital gauge cluster ruins it for me, and the adaptive bs getting more features...mine already annoys the hell out of me. Did VW at lest make turning off all aid systems possible on the GTI and GTD models this year? its the one thing I miss about the mk6 golf, you turn off TCS and that shits off.
Tell me you can switch the fake exhaust tone OFF. It's herrendous.
The GTD is beautiful, but I dont know if It is that better than the leon fr 184 .
It's quieter and has better interior quality.
but you have to pay more
Tadeu Ferreira Quality vs. quantity.
More like Brand Markup, the cars are the same. The Golf is a little more refined on the interior but it is not almost 10€ better
Tadeu Ferreira Mechanically are pretty much the same (altough I heard that there are some cost cuttings in Seat and Skoda equivalents) but the rest is better. And where did you get 10k € from?
In Poland the difference is less than 2000 €.
Marek, did the GTI you tested have DCC, would you recommend it as an option or is the normal setup good enough for most everyday driving? Thanks..
As far as I can tell all cars at the launch event had DCC. I haven't driven a VW without DCC in ages. Every press car seems to have it these days. But TBH in everyday situations you'll probably not use it. That said it may be packaged along with something else you want.
Marek what do you think of Seat Leon III with 1.8 TSI vs. the 1.5 TSI Golf? I saw your review of the diesel Seat and seems like you didn't like it
I haven't driven any SEATs in a couple of years, so I can't say.
so you should drive the face lifted Leon and make a review :)))
Marek, would you go for light fabric interior in Golf (option "Shetland")? Can't find much experience stories with that on the net...
Looks like a lot of cleaning very often.
So it is still just an assumption :)
Marek,can you help me.For first time in 20 years driveing disel i'm going to bye a golf 7,5 petrol benzin. So which one to bue 1,4 125 hp or 1.4 150 hp ?
Thank Блaгoдaрaм
1.4 150.
Hi Marek,
which one is better: this GTD or the equivalent A3 190ps TDI Quattro S-Line?
Thanks, Thumbs up!
I have no clue. Audi doesn't let me drive their cars.
were you too honest in your reviews? :-)
A3. It's even more refined.
One minor comment if I may - why would you talk about 1.5tsi while driving (or showing) 2.0TDI?
Because stock footage included only TDI and GTi.
Thanks Marek. Those fake exhausts drive me mad - tacky look. That 1.5 acceleration is just a total waste of time.
Adaptive suspension used to make noises... What kind of noises?
Knocking noises. It's a problem with many VAG cars from 2+ years ago.
Marek Drives Thanks for such a fast reply, appreciate it. Unbelievable from such a perfectionist country and culture. It is in a specific driving mode, or more random, or general regardless of driving mode?
I think driving a car is in The Netherlands is most expensive in Europe:
starting price from
Golf 1.0 85hp €21990
Golf highline 110hp 27750
Golf Gti 38700
Golf R 54000
Example to own a car Golf 6 105hp
insurance: 70€ a month allrisk
taxes 120€ per 3 months (depends on weight and CO2)
petrol Euro95, 1 liter is around €1,50 !! wtf
so be happy if u dont live here. ;|
Brandon Wong Same prices as in Sweden...
But i guess the monthly incomings are higher as well or is it not ?
So finally they figured out what engine size? Is that ALL??? I would only buy new Golf if it had Toyota hybrid engine.
Face lifted GTE is coming.
To be precise it's not a hybrid engine, but a hybrid powertrain. It's a combustion engine working with an electric motor.
Golf trashes Toyota's hybrids in driving dynamics and powertrain responsiveness. Even Kia's hybrid system is better (the one from Niro).
Hi Marek, would you choose 1.4 TSI 150PS or 1.5 TSI 150 PS? Why? It is offered both at the dealer with small price difference (650 euro). Which feels better to drive?
As far as I could tell during this launch event the 150 hp 1.4 TSI felt more responsive, than 1.5. I don't know why. VW claims everything is fine, and the new engine is better. What else would they say? :)
I haven't driven the 1.5 TSI since. I'm waiting for a test car with this engine to be available in other models.
Thanks for the reply, I think it will be a very interesting topic to see more detailed review of those 2 engines:) Right now I see no performance boost in the new 1.5 but slightly better claimed fuel economy. Another thing is we don't know about the 1.5 reliability, the 1.4 older version had some issues in the beginning but later it was fixed so the 1.4 is kinda time proven. Though the 1.5 is not largely different from 1.4 but who knows...
I am sure someone buys a non GTI golf for its sound.
Golf, octavia, elantra or megan sedan ?
MX-5.
I would really appreciate review of a new Hyundai i30.
Looks hot, but is it?
Megane hatchback, not sedan
@Paul Hojda
There's also a sedan.
@Zadrigo
It'd pick the Golf. It's the most refined of them all.
sic22l I know a sedan version of the Megane exists, I just think the hatchback is a better choice. More practical, and imo better looking
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As a result buy a 1.4 tsi or 1.0 tsi
+Mesut Taşdemir 1.4 or 1.8.
Marek Drives 1.8 is and old gen it consumes as much fuel as 2.0 and not much faster then 1.4. So i think 1.4 or 2.0 tdi or maybe 1.5 in new gen..
Fiesta st and toyota 86 beats the gti around a track
But not in everyday life.
The GTI is no doubt probably the best hot hatch. But the standard Golf is a joke really compare to a few others. For that premium price you get so few things compare to mazda, kia and so on.
I'd say you get Mazda handling and equipment level/quality beyond KIA. Yes, if you take a full spec Golf you're getting dangerously close to a 1 Series or a 3 Series even, but you won't be able to match Golf equipment without adding 50 percent to a 1 Series base price.
myślę że wybrałbym focusa st i się nawet nie zastanawiał
Jeśli nie potrzebujesz całej tej elektroniki, Focus pewnie będzie OK.
Seems like a super car. how so so dull to look at.