Jim White SLAMS Birmingham City Owner's For BOLD Aston Villa Comparison! 😠🏟️❌
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- Birmingham City have revealed new stadium plans. talkSPORT's Jim White and Simon Jordan have their say!
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He said ‘Named team in Birmingham’ not ‘Main team in Birmingham’. You’ve just had a lengthy convo about something you misheard.
absolutely right, and im a villa fan lol
Typical talkSport, when it comes to Birmingham City. Nothing good to say about our club, ever, Joke!
@@jamo98 it's impossible to say anything good about the blues as there is nothing good about the blues
they HEARD what they wanted, not what he said. nice to see an owner trying to do the right thing, build up stadium/community slowly
lol
He never said they were the main team in Birmingham. False conversation
I almost choked on my dinner when I heard that 😂
As a Villa fan i would like see the Blue Noses in the Premier League. This second city has grossly under-performed other areas of the country. The council has to take some blame in not making the city a much more attractive place to live in order to attract the better players and management
Get the crime down then they can think of making the areas better
Place is a joke, council has gone bust mate
@hophole Did you just call my City a joke??????? You ok, son? Several councils have gone bankrupt, and pretty much all of them are close to it. I don't get your point? It's the second largest economy and population outside of London It's developed dramatically over the last 20/30 years, the city centres has completely changed, it hosted the last Commonwealth Games successfully and Aston Villa seems to be doing well. Cadbury's chocolate isn't bad either.
@@geraldmorris4286 You give a footballer the tour of London, Manchester, Newcastle, Birmingham, they are going to live there in that order. I'd argue you'd even stick the south coast in 3rd.
@MJ-nk7mp I'm not critical of any of those places from an astetic point of view, but Birmingham has a lot of nice parts, and I'm sure that the quality of the club, the manager, pay, access to European football, and the training ground is also important for their choices? I've been to Villas training ground, and Man Uniteds, Villas is better, I've also been to Southampton, Portsmouth, Plymouth and Brighton, they seem nice, particularly in the summer but I'm not sure how many top footballers would go there for that reason.
Why would any pop star want to go small heath 😂😂😂😂 especially when Villa park is down the road haha
‘Named team’ NOT ‘Main team’
Wayne Rooney. Manager of the Season..
Maybe it's the players who aren't good enough as well
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He’s talking about a multi purpose stadium which could hold international matches nfl matches pop and rock concerts as well as being home to Birmingham City fc you have to look at the bigger picture and this will take 5years to complete if you don’t have ambition and drive what’s the point
If they are talking on
the same scale as what
Spurs have done it could take myb up to 7 years from planning to finished stadium it all depends on planning permission, when work would start & wether over the construction faze.
Just sounds like Birmingham is planning on making the football the warm up act in their own stadium.
Honestly the Rooney appointment was as dumb as it was predictable.
As everyone except the people making the decision knew.
Blues fan . I agree with simon . It wont be a total diisaster it will be sad day to go down but we are hardened to disappointment and we will roar them back up while the owners sort the future out for us . Its amazing we have this chance of success even though we may need to wait a little . We havent had hope for more than 10 years . Now we have KRO ( who knows we might sneak a couple of results )
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The owners were very respectful to Villa I thought, and said we would like to be up there with them so not sure what ur problem is. It took an American to realise the potential of this club and his vision is long term.
As a bluenose I woke up extremely disheartened this morning after our abysmal performance last night and the perilous position we find ourselves in, in the league table. The mixture of disappear over our current predicament and optimism over our long term future and the new stadium that will be built is very jarring.
Sounds similar to us ( City ) when the idea of moving from Maine Rd to a new Stadium was mentioned at supporters club meetings,when we were at our lowest point.
I really hope it all works out for the Blues, proper club and fans
You missed the 'ing' after the word 'disappear' 😂😂 I think Rooney should get a knighthood for his achievements at Boring-ham
As an American I can’t stand American owners in European football leagues, I watch football because it is very different to American sports and all those owners want to change that
100%. Good observation.
have more concern about the Swiss/Italian in charge of World football, than people owning a single club.
My club has fantastic American owners who got bitten by the football bug, whereas most investors view football clubs as commodities rather than communities
@@interstellarbeatteller9306 I’ve been a supporter of Liverpool since 2007/08 when my friend who loves Newcastle introduced me to the sport, I’ve seen good and bad American owners in that time. My point is less about individual owners and more about a culture amongst these owners where all they see is money in these clubs. They don’t care about history or culture or tradition, they will do whatever is required to make more money and they see things like the pyramid and relegation as obstacles to be overcome as opposed to things that make European football so special.
@@corvus2512 They order football clubs like they're ordering dessert! The beauty of the English game is that anybody can start a team & work their way up to the premier league, which cannot happen in MLS.
I think there is apprehension about American owners, but only because their sports franchises are a closed circuit
Wtf does Jim White know. Slating a club who are showing ambition.
Ambition or bullshit.....
The Blues owner should be more concerned about his team dropping into the third tier of English football instead of making ridiculous claims about overtaking Villa.
Also getting out of League 1 isn’t easy just ask fans of Portsmouth, Derby, Sunderland, Charlton, Bolton, Reading and Wigan.
I think that message was taken way out of context. He mentioned 'named team in Birmingham', not being the 'main team in Birmingham'. We'll never overtake Villa; we just want to see our club going on an upwards trajectory, rather than be stuck in purgatory or going on a downwards spiral like it seems at the moment.
While I sincerely doubt that we'll walk L1 if we go down, we have an advantage over a lot of the clubs mentioned in being financially sound (That is in the context of when they went down, as I know that some are now under new ownership). Most of those sides faced administration/embargoes. On the other hand, many of our squad will also be gone come the summer. One thing we will be disadvantaged in is competing against already established sides while we would need our team to gel.
You have common sense which they seem to lack like 'no fear football'. They should wait to see if relegation is avoided before making statements such as this. I am sick of clubs being owned by commodity and brand merchants, I am only a Villa fan because when I was young it was my original local team it was not a choice I could not help it, nor can I change it, sometimes I wish I lived in Walsall then I would have supported them. These owners are not supporters they have no local affiliation to club or or area they have different agendas.
@@j.worrall2674 being financially sound and having that money is only an advantage if you spend it wisely which means appointing the right manager and buying the right players, something Blues haven’t done in god knows how many years.
Even this season under this new owner you sacked Eustace and appointed Rooney, I dread to think how much money you’ve already wasted on compensation for managers and staff.
@@Lewis88-wr6sm Very true, Lewis. I'm hopeful that we can recruit more shrewdly and not spunk it like we have. From what was shared in the Open House, we seem to be evaluating our strategy in recruiting players. We'll wait and see what comes of it. As for the managerial side of things, that was one drastic mistake, but beyond that no one could help the situation that we have found ourselves in in terms of Mowbray being on sick leave.
@@j.worrall2674 Speak for yourself we will overtake villa it's not a massive gap once in the premier league.
The Simon & Laurence Bassini show coming 2025
Might be good for a reset for BCFC. Surviving each season means the underlying foundations aren't right. Take a hit and build the foundation of a team through youth and good scouting. Teams like Brighton and Bournemouth have set examples of getting to the promised land.
Birmingham City could be a great club. With a new stadium at Bordesley. It would be a great asset to the city.
Villa are Birmingham
@@TheFourSatoshisdam straight mate 👌
Who is Jim White and what has he ever done to mean he can pronounce "ex cathedra" as though he were the all knowing one? You don't get to be a top man in finance in the states, without knowing how to back up your words with actions. That doesn't mean these people never make a mistake, it means that when they make one they learn from it. If you had said 30 years ago that the big team in Manchester wouldn't be United people would have laughed, but now? Blues have not got such a big gap to close, there is a massive support base just waiting for something good to happen to Birmingham, it may not happen today, but give it time.
I lived to the south of Birmingham for 30 years and met ONE Birmingham City fan in all that time. I met my second Birmingham City fan when I went to work in a school in Birmingham. I'm sure the club has fans but, in my experience, all the potential Birmingham City fans (ie those who despise Villa) simply latch onto whatever club is successful in the Premier League at any given time. Their attitude is they will support /gloryhunt ANYONE (successful) as long as its not Villa. A rather sad state of affairs.
Fair play simon 👏 thought u had it in for us ,but youve talked sence and can see were massive now especially bigger than villa
😅 Bigger than Villa…Blues have lots of potential for sure but in terms of trophies, history, fanbase etc they are way behind.
Obviously things change but at this time definitely not.
@@Rijowhi ...fraid you're right. 😢
All in all these new American owners/fans don't understand football or its culture.
They're not franchises like in the NFL and fans don't swap allegiances at the drop of a hat. Supporting a club is a generational thing, it can be an identity, the passion for your club no matter which players come and go isn't negotiable, they'll never understand that side of English football culture.
Birmingham City business zone offence and sports quarter defence
I'll love it when blues get relegated, but i'd love it more if they made it to the premier league again. 2nd city derby is an experience i miss. UTV
If blues get relegated, it's in their own hands after smashing cov 3-0 and next up Rotherham and Huddersfield.
The vast majority of Birmingham suburbs support Villa. This will all fall on it’s head.
Very true
No they dont
We are in the same standard as the Shrewsburys and Crewe’s
Whilst Simon is right about City dropping down - and look at them now, sadly for Birmingham the FFP/PSR regulations put in place because the cartel don't want another City or Chelsea challenging means Birmingham won't be able to 'do a City'!
That's good surely
@@TotalAlchemywhy? So the same old teams are always at the top?
Lol City. More likely to do a Todd Boehly
@@TotalAlchemy Yeah... no competition is amazing, fans of lower division teams not being able to dream of reaching the top... brilliant eh?😟
@@dazblue5515 allowing people to break the rules is generally bad
5 to 10 year plan
broaden the income base
investor over football priority
A hotel in small heath as a tourist destination
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Villa dwarf Blues. They will always be in our shadow.
Birmingham is definitely a City that will grow a lot over the next 15 years.... Solid plan.... But as a Football club it depends on his football staff....
We got relegated on the 1st season David gold and Sullivan took over. We eventually got to the premier league beat villa and won the league cup.
@@L1am21 yeh....thats the past
it will grow, and those new people will become villa fans, they jsut dont seem to understand, birmingham city arent birminghams club, villa are, you cant compare this to city and united, everyone hates united becuase of the past, no one hates villa, so they will gain the support not birmingham city, they jsut pick up the left overs, the people who want to "be different" and not support the main team in the city lol
This aged well😂😂
Spot on Simon.Without a positive vision there is a downward trajectory .
Wolves,Leeds,Man City, Blackburn and Charlton to name a few, all deep dived from the PL to League 1. Its how you recover that matters. It can take 20 years.
Sick to death of hearing "it's all Roomey's fault" . I'm no Rooney fan, never wanted him but the facts are that the majority wanted Eustace out the week before he eventually went after we got battered at Norwich. The football was woeful. Yet as we then beat a woeful Huddersfield and had a fortunate win against WBA all that was forgotten. The reason we are going down actually has little to do with Rooney, he was there for less than a third of the season. We are going down because we are useless up front and hopeless at the back. All we have in the striking dept are Jutkiewicz, Hogan and Stansfield (who isn't a CF). Rooney said from day 1 that we needed strengthening in the Jan window. He didn't get the chance. I'm certain he would have signed strikers and a decent CB. What did Tony do? Signed 3 more midfielders to add to the 14 we already had and let Kevin Long (our only decent CB) leave for Toronto. We played 4-2-3-1 last night, that's 5 midfielders. On the bench we had 1 keeper, 1 RB, 1 striker and 6 midfielders. Add to that the 1st team players not in yesterday's match day squad consisted of 1 CB, 1 LB, 2 CM's, 3 wingers and Jutkiewicz. The balance of the squad is why we're going down, that's not Rooney's doing, that's on Eustace, Tony & Craig Gardner. The only tactic we've used all year is to keep swapping midfielders and the full-backs around and hope. We don't score goals and concede loads (usually in the last 5mins). That's why we're going down.
Literally couldn’t of said it better
Issue is with all these clowns they don’t watch games they don’t look into it that deep all they see is eustace sacked in 6th which was early in the season where one loss can send you a few places down the league 6th means nothing
I partly agree with you, Rooney was poor, but these players have failed under 3 managers, and who knows what TM would have managed with them, and eventually you have to ask, whose job is it to put the ball in the net and whose not to give the opponents chances on a plate? Not the managers'.
If u think U come straight bk up from L1 if u get relegated. Other teams will tell u it's not easy Ipswich Bolton Portsmouth ( near the end 7 yrs being in L1)Sunderland spent some time getting out Charlton derby 2.
The new owners have been in place for less than a year. In that time, they have concentrated (mainly) on the infrastructure of the club that wasn't there under any of our other owners, ever. What people aren't seeing is the foundations the owners are putting in place, both structurally and financially. Prior to Knighthead, the club was losing an average of £400k a week, and was over £120m in debt. That's gone, and apart from the teams with parachute payments, they're on track to have the highest revenue in the division. That will be put into players this summer once FFP regulations reset. The work on the pitch starts in earnest next season, the bulk of what they've done already doesn't make the sports pages, so people just see the results and think they know everything. Keep doubting them, Blues fans meanwhile, will do what we always do, and Keep Right On.
Blues would never fill 60 thousand
Tiny club
We will see ...
They can’t even fill the dump they have now
Both are tiny clubs
Think they could if they some how got in to the premier league
Thinking big but never going to be .
2nd time heard stockport county mentioned on talksport! Hopefully stockport vs Birmingham soon I'd rather play you in championship though 😊
Simon Jordan , put White in his place 👍
Not a Birmingham fan, but they do have huge potential. And are massive historical underachievers. One of the top 10, though? Not sure about that one. The so called ‘big six’ plus Everton, Villa, Newcastle, and lastly Leeds, would fill those spots. But top 15, is more accurate and fair. They should be bigger than Leicester. And we all know what they’ve achieved. Not to mention Wolves and (despite their past European history) Forest too.
They're not even the main team in Small Heath!
Utter hyperbole over something that was never said! You clearly never watched the Open House, Jim. Educate yourself!
Solihull Moors FC is the team to follow, forget the Blouse.
Bet you live in Chelmsley Wood.
We need villa vs blues back.. it’s such a sleeping giant..
Looks like more concerts before the game to fill it
Tom Wagner didn't once mention Villa in that interview.
Yh, he SLAMMED them! Thinks will be different
the owners decision making so far doesn't bold well for them being able to pull off this ambitious vision. i'd say the whole scheme is dependent upon the NFL creating a European conference rather than BCFC.
What happened to Laurence Bassini?
TalkSPORT Legend.
SIMON, SIMON
Small Heath get battered everywhere they go 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Our neighbours are a funny little club 🤣
Utv
And our neighbours are just a suburb , with a large proportion of " black country" support
We are " birminghams " team ...and you lot are rattled
Enjoy your challenge for the europa sherpa vans trophy 😂
Slow train coming 👍
You're both funny little clubs.
@@andyniblett8986Andy, you’re about to go to league 1…how u think u can rattle Villa is beyond me 🤣🤣🤣
You're only famous because James Bond used to drive an Aston Villa.
This is stupid , every Villa fan wants the 2nd city derby with the Blues .... they would have one of the best midfielders in the world now had they not sold Jude Bellingham , and that's good for Villa, competition will progress us , they've got some way to go but I hope Blues get some investment
We have investment 3+bn of it from a man that runs companies worth 900bn combined.
Recruitment has been the problem. Players and managers.
This sounds very much like what SISU told Coventry fans before the destruction began. Birmingham City FC are now pawns in a development and land battle.
And then Blues smashed them 3-0
Birmingham City are just as big as Villa and I'm not a Blues fan.
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These new owners have made mistakes but they have ambition so in Tom we trust.
And still the most successful club in the midlands this century , BCFC KRO
Tom Brady said we would get this negativity believe Kro
SJ could not survive in todays climate of paying 50k a week to his 3rd choice right back
If anything it was a compliment , at least we now have some ambition instead of treading water !
As a Villa fan, id like to see West Midlands clubs doing well. However, Im not hearing football, I'm hearing pop concerts.?? WTF???
Simon jordan makes a statement then does not come to any coclusion,the fan said b'ham city cant compete villa,then jordan chats complete bullocks.
🤣OMG....🤣...Come on Jim don't do that to Simon " We didnt have Tina Turner perform on a regular basis, we didn't have NFL games"
Aston is a run down nasty suburb of Birmingham, it’s about time that the team that carries the name of the City starts to behave a perform as such, hopefully they can match the big talk and become to number 1 team in the midlands and put the ward of Aston back in its place.
Aston back in it's place? "In the all-time list of most successful English football clubs, Birmingham City FC is placed 29th with 2 major trophies, while their opponents Aston Villa are 8th with 23." I rest my case. UTV!
@@billjones3720well said. UTFV
The whole city is run down its not exactly a palice round st andrews
The whole city (and nearly the whole country) resembles Mogadishu...
😅😅 your having a laugh.
I have been shocked for years at how poorly-supported Birmingham City appears to be. They are in the second city FGS ! To only get 18,000 supporters coming to the ground is poor, really. They were in the PL 12 years ago (?) and win the League Cup in 2010 (?) - they should be getting mid 20ks. Their plight right now is due to the over-reaction to sack a Manager when you're 7th, and appoint a bafoon in Rooney. I don't want to see BCFC go down, but if they do it will be partly self-inflicted.
Theyre charging £37 a ticket and last night for example we had one shot on target… We dont score, we mostly always lose and barely even fight - why the f would anyone spend nearly £40 each week for that?! All after year upon year of miss management, points deductions & dodgy ownership
@@user-il5xg9of5k I take your points there, but my view is that when you're in a city with 3 million people within 45 minutes travel, they should still be able to generate more support. I dare say there are a lot of people who would call themselves BCFC fans, but they rarely go - and with results this season you can't blame them, I suppose. I still think that BCFC could be a bit of a 'sleeping giant' but it seems to have been mis-managed for many years;
@@rjw4762 Also huge proportion of city is Asian/ Irish etc.. immigrants. V few of who came to Bham to start a new life and thought yeah ill support this shite Div 1 team ha. Most followed United, Lpool and so on
My mom supported the team and her father before. Support going back to the 1930s. The newcomers who live around the ground have zero interest in football or other British traditions.
A lot of people in Brum will support your typical 'top 6' clubs, or will not have an interest in football altogether. Youngsters who are brought up watching football will opt for the better of the two teams in Villa, as I doubt that they would want to watch Birmingham on a weekly basis. I'm a Blues fan simply because my dad is one, and my grandad as well before he passed. Fans of BCFC are fans mainly because of their family, as it seems to be becoming rarer to support your local team. We used to get large crowds if you look back some decades ago, but a lot of supporters from those days have either long since passed, or have lost interest in watching a poor team. Not to mention the overinflated prices they charge for home game tickets.
John Eustace must be wetting himself watching all this unfold. Sacked in 6th and they’re gonna go down lol
Eustace is near the sack at Blackburn
Don't understand that - Eustace isn't exactly having the time of his life right now either!
In other words - 'Resorts World FC' is coming to a second city near you...
I DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT BIRMINGHAM CITY BUT THEY ARE DEFINATLEY A BIGGER CLUB THAN LUTON BOURNMOUTH BRENTFORD BURNLEY ETC .BUT NOTHING NEAR ASTON VILLA BUT CAN DEFINATLEY GET TO THE PREMIER LEAGUE
STOP SHOUTING
Birmingham will recover. Things are starting to go right at Board level and the fan base is far bigger than the Aston Villa base. So give it some years and they will be back to their rightful position as the number one club in the midlands. Wolves have been in that place for too long now.
They need to go down to rebuild and it certainly won't be easy to get back up
He doesn’t like us does he 🤣🤣💙
We have a plan so you cant knock them .After all the idiots who have run our club into the ground
its nice to see ambition .Birmingham is full of blue noses most villa fans come from Stafford and Sutton
Be the biggest sports facililty in League 1!
60k..😂😂😂😂
I missed the aston villa comment
Knighthead have made ONE mistake, name a club that hasn't made mistakes. Nobody is looking at what Knighthead have done for Blues, completely redesigned the stadium, built more revenue than we have probably ever had. Yeah ok the playing side has been dismal but don't forget they are still stuck with FFP and players from the previous ownership, add in being unlucky with Mowbray, I can't thank them enough for what they have done, it's the players that aren't performing at the moment. Also Wagner said named not main and actually said he wants us to be on terms with Villa not bigger, he said a big derby with two teams doing well is great for the city
'...coupled with existing railroad structure'... Hahaha! Good luck with that! VTID
All what they want to is already in Birmingham. Man City were not under any spending restrictions so there is no comparison to be made . They cannot fill their ground at the moment, it’s only full when they play the Villa.
Been a sellout over 6 times this season and almost every Saturday.
Every Real Villa fan wants them back in the Premier for our City, but theres no way Blues will EVER be bigger than Villa! It will take them 10 years just to become a solid mid table Prem team at this rate! They have Todd Boely America delusion at the helm like Chelsea! Unlike two Villa Owners with a long history of sports franchises and business, a lot of orher American owners dont grasp rhe reality if English football and try to rush the process. 🤔
Hilarious seeing how deluded and clueless Tom Wagner is about this sport. I get it from Jim. He deliberately looks to generate hype and debate. But he has to tone it down because he lost a lot of credibility saying Rooney was gonna be a good coach when everyone knew the Birmingham FC owners have zero clue about this sport.
Never heard Wagner say that, I heard Cook say it and thought, what bullshit. Hey I was right.
I honestly don't know what Jim's talking about...I really don't! The biggest difference I've found between Blues and Villa is ambition! Villa have shown much more ambition as the years have passed and by and large, they've done quite well. But Blues have ambition now! Mr Wagner's come in and shown us his vision of what he wants to do and see so my question to Jim is this: What the Hell is wrong with that?! 🤬🤬
As a villa fan,i love matchday vs blues but the fans and owners are delusional,their stadium is crumbling like a cadbury flake thats been stamped on.
Rooney only had them for 15 games, far too much blame on him. He never had any transfer windows to build owt.
Owners and previous team builders to blame..
💩 on the 🏙... "small heath get battered everywhere they go... everywhere they go" 😂
Loved it when Turnip said that playing Blues in 2002/03 would be 'an easy six points'.... he wasn't wrong! lol
@@CliveSinclairSaysBoSelecta but after that season blues never won again against villa
@@Salacious-Crumb Wrong again twelve-toes... League Cup 2011 for one.
@@CliveSinclairSaysBoSelecta 2005 last time you beat us in the league ...we beat you every league game since 💩on the 🏙
@@Salacious-Crumb "but after that season blues never won again against villa". LOL
60K, itll be empty as usual 😂
Lol in small heath he has obviously never been for a walk around the surrounding area
If you get relegated , you will have to move to another option.
Is he still pissed ?
Jim white acting like we’re moving to the new stadium tomorrow, fair enough they’ve got the ambition and willing to go into details with fans. On field it might be awful but what other owners are you seeing that are so transparent. Especially after Birminghams last owners
Nothing better than a rattled Vile fan.
Simon jordan big statements but wheres the answer to the questions?
💩 on the villa. 🔵🔵🔵
You play Stockport next season 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Try and do a title to your videos that doesn’t say SLAMS. Annoying af
Good luck on getting easy access...unless you are ejecting the Cov Rd out of the stratosphere 🤑
Now they are in league one 😂😂
Impressive ambition , take note Chelsea playing in a 39,000 capacity stadium 😂
Too many people on here that really don't understand how money works 😂
When I read these villa fans are saying then I sitt back and think that's why I support the blues arrogant
Small Heath alliance are a joke club and stole the Name if the city.
When I read what Villa fans say I think, they sound worried. KRO
Tina Turner, genius
Ffs people go on and on the size or whatever the sports quater has nothing to do with our league position it will take 5 years to build thst gives us 5 years to improve on the pitch the owners have already said we are going to have money to spend in the summer what a useless conversation
Birmingham is copying Tottenham
Ive heard Villa are to move stadium to Solihul by NEC, yer and it's going to hold 200,000.....see how easy it is to write bullshit.
Very easy for a villa fan 😂
@@SuperGilly71 blues having nothing to laugh about, they are an embarrassment to football....
Solihull Villa FC 🤣🤣