Many thanks to my good friend HistoryMarche for going above and beyond helping me improve and polish my map art and animation. Check out his channel here: th-cam.com/channels/8MX9ECowgDMTOnFTE8EUJw.html
@@vulpes7079 They may be out of print but you may locate them on secondary market. The first was "German Anti-Partisan Warfare", but I was not happy with the edit the pubisher did as they cut over 100 pages and trimmed down the material to condense it and they also gor the jacket information wrong. Still good info. Also "Occupation and Insurgency" had some info also.
From what I understand it was Bunyencho who liberated Prague. Vlas gave him permission, but it didn't really matter because Hitler was dead. The idea was to support the nationalists from stopping Benez. It only lasted a few days. Thrukin tried to bring the second division across from Austria, but he was arrested on the side of a road by the Soviets. Depending on what literature you read, it appears they did go all back to face the firing squad. Piano was used in the hanging.
Great job. Very interesting. My first time on your channel. You tackle complex historical issues and present them in a factual and scientific-based manner. Very rare these days. I first came across Vlasov when living in Prague in the mid 1990s, and was surprised how Czech intellectuals consider him a hero for liberating Prague together with their partisans.
Dude that was one of the best yet. Never heard of him before. The mind boggles in the idea of "What if this guy was in charge of the Soviets coming out WW2" ?
Thank you AMAC! To be fair, there probably wasn't a 'bright' future for Russians (Vlasov denounced the Soviet Union itself) in Hitler's vision of Europe.
yeah they shouldve put that “Liberation” in quotation marks probably, unless they mean Liberating millions of their countrymen from living by helping the nazis
I first learned about Vlasov from reading Operation Barbarossa: The Russo-German Conflict 1941-1945 by Alan Clark, in high school. Very informative presentation 👍
Another very interesting video - I'm really glad I stumbled across this channel. It would be interesting to know what happened to the other Soviet Generals that were captured by the Germans who didn't switch sides.
He was (probably) a good General, made a good career in the Red Army before 1942, but during his trial, he confessed that he was "weak of heart", and that was the reason he decided to collaborate with the Germans.
He isn’t considered a hero by anybody. The nazi didn’t even have any respect for him or just Slavic people in general. He’s a pathetic man and ultimately got what he deserved.
I only ever found out about this story because of Hearts of Iron 4 where he was featured as a defector to the Germans after the player occupies the Leningrad region. I wondered about it and did some searching and found your video. Thank for you the backstory.
Подразделение карателей по вашему столь интересно? и сегодня эта фамилия синоним Иуды в России как и вся русская церковь за границей, которая и ставит памятники предателям и перебезчикам подобным Власову.
Thank you for putting this together. Its an interesting and rather complicated story, and you have explained it clearly. Another Russian who became involved with fighting against Communist Russia on the the German side was Peter Krasnov, the Ataman of the Don Cossacks. He and his troops were White Russian emigres who had fled from Russia in the early 20s. Many had become citizens of other countries. They ended up surrendering to the British in Austria, and were all illegally repatriated to Russia where they were either executed or sent to the Gulag. Thanks again, good viewing.
But for place and time, he'd be regarded as a hero. Russia's Arnold, I suppose. An object lesson for those who would stray from the path they chose for themselves. Sleep in your own ranks no matter your level of comfort.
Here is another argument for Vlasov - th-cam.com/video/qzWhvjQpth4/w-d-xo.html "The Russian defector - Traitor or not? - Andrey Vlasov" Here I bring up three points to defend Vlasovs actions to see if one sees him as a traitor or not. It brought a lot of debate, and I learned that a lot of American neo-liberals are defending Stalin and views Stalin's killing of all soldiers from the RLA as justifiable Except for Neo-libs there is only Stalinists and the moaist/CCP that sees Vlasov as a bad man.
I thoroughly enjoy ur stories of history. But, it seems u r reading a script---nothing wrong with that, just do not do speed reading. Viewers need time to absorb and process. Also, more visual images will b very helpful of the events.
A brilliant video I thoroughly enjoyed but I would like to see more information about the white Russians who fought against the bolsheviks it seems to be thin on the ground somehow.🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂 thank you very much again
Nikolai Tolstoy wrote about an American journalist lionising Vlasov when he was a Soviet General, pointing out that no one could know the secret thoughts of someone living under Communism. If anyone was a poor blighter, it was Vlasov, the most hopeless yet noble cause, Prague is his monument, saved from destruction by the Wehrmacht by his men.
Solzhenitsyn was a Captain in the Red Army before his political arrest. He said that Vlasovite had the same meaning as sewage to Russian ears. He said they’d shoot Vlasov prisoners the minute a Russian word escaped their mouth!
I doubt former Soviet citizen knew and especially Russians today know anything about this man. Maybe some day the criminals in the Kremlin will be gone, but seeing the endless abuse meted out to the Russian population and them accepting all they receive I don't hold much hope.
Great documentary! I especially liked the maps and the information about Vlasov's early life and his service during the Civil War (which is the part I knew the least about). Vlasov is hard for me to judge. While I completely understand his disillusionment with the Soviet system and hatred for Stalin, and can't find fault with his stated goals (in theory), I can't imagine he really could think that any of them could be realized with the help of Nazi Germany. At least he made some positive contribution at the end of the war, helping the insurgents in Prague. BTW I would love to see you making videos of such quality about the commanders of Polish forces during WW2, especially Władysław Anders and Stanisław Maczek (I know, I've already commented about them at least once). Zygmunt Berling can be an example of a far more ambivalent and controversial, but no less interesting figure.
Hey Artur, I appreciate the insightful comment. The plan is to keep up these map-type videos because they expand the number of topics I can cover in an incredible way. Right now I am focussing on medieval (central) Europe and the Balkan. Which brings me to my next point: instead of Polish generals of WW2, would you find a video about Stefan Czarniecki interesting? Do you have any other recommendations of Polish figures of history (pre-20th century)?
@@HoH Oh, that's great to hear! A video about Stefan Czarniecki will definitely be interesting. Jan Zamoyski and/or Stanisław Żółkiewski might be even better (both were more than just military commanders). Also, maybe Jan Karol Chodkiewicz would be the best candidate from the Lithuanian part of the Commonwealth.
@@HoH Going a little back in time Jan Tarnowski from Poland and Konstanty Ostrogski from the Grand Duchy of Lithuania would be also great. And from the late period, Tadeusz Kościuszko goes without saying. :)
@@Artur_M. Thank you! I just ordered Lukowski and Zawadzki's history of Poland to become more acquainted with the political history. It is great to be able to finally branch out to medieval Europe thanks to creating maps.
He was a traitor. And I could not hold his alignment with the Nazi genocidal dystopia in greater contempt. Nonetheless, I sincerely believe he ( extremely naively ) had sincerely decent intentions. I don’t think we can regard him as much else than a very, very tragic case of a colossally clueless personality,…a brilliant general, with almost no developed sense of politics in its purest form.
He was a clearly a patriot, one that knew a life before the communists, and had dedicated his life to his country until they turned on him. He tried to save his men’s life and when presented with the opportunity to attempt to overthrow Stalin, he took it. I wouldn’t call him naive, he was clearly a brilliant man. He was too idealistic maybe, and under the circumstances he found himself in, I find it understandable. Unfortunately, the circumstance involved him being under the control of the 2 most evil regimes on the planet. I’d say the poor guy got dealt a really crappy hand.
the story will be Lenin was a capitalist and Marx was not the writer of the communist manifesto. in the "Lenin A biography" book page-25, they said that Lenin translated "the communist manifesto of Carl marks from German to Russia". which means before Lenin, Russia was not a communist. but in another book, i found out that Lenin changed 90% of the Russian companies and factories in to private companies. which means Lenin was a capitalist. this implies that before Lenin, Russia was a communist. which means Carl Marx was a ticket(replacement) who replaces some Russian philosophers and thinkers. so, the white army will be fighting the Jews and their relatives together with the Germans.
Soon the fulfillment of Isaiah 2:4 will take place: "He will render judgment among the nations and set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, nor will they learn war anymore." We will enjoy absolute peace, for all the tragical events will be forgotten, according to Isaiah 65:17: "For look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth; And the former things will not be called to mind, Nor will they come up into the heart." And there is more. Have a very pleasant day!
Many thanks to my good friend HistoryMarche for going above and beyond helping me improve and polish my map art and animation. Check out his channel here: th-cam.com/channels/8MX9ECowgDMTOnFTE8EUJw.html
HistoryMarche channel rocks, he is amazing, top channel with Kings & Generals.
Absolutely. Both really set the standard for history documentaries on TH-cam
@flavourhill thank you, that is very kind!
I wrote about Vlasov in a couple of books, and interviewed a few participants who were in the ROA, as well as a Ukrainian SS volunteer. Good history.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn gives a great account of him in The Gulag Archipelago. It really showed the dirty side of war, betrayal and incompetence.
A couple of books? Where can we buy them?
@@deanfennell9398 Classic work
@@vulpes7079 They may be out of print but you may locate them on secondary market. The first was "German Anti-Partisan Warfare", but I was not happy with the edit the pubisher did as they cut over 100 pages and trimmed down the material to condense it and they also gor the jacket information wrong. Still good info. Also "Occupation and Insurgency" had some info also.
@@colinheaton2679 thank you very much sir, I'll see if I can find them
Finally a documentary about Andrey Vlasov
💅
From what I understand it was Bunyencho who liberated Prague. Vlas gave him permission, but it didn't really matter because Hitler was dead. The idea was to support the nationalists from stopping Benez. It only lasted a few days. Thrukin tried to bring the second division across from Austria, but he was arrested on the side of a road by the Soviets. Depending on what literature you read, it appears they did go all back to face the firing squad. Piano was used in the hanging.
Great job. Very interesting. My first time on your channel. You tackle complex historical issues and present them in a factual and scientific-based manner. Very rare these days. I first came across Vlasov when living in Prague in the mid 1990s, and was surprised how Czech intellectuals consider him a hero for liberating Prague together with their partisans.
Hi John - Prague is a beautiful city, you must have enjoyed it there especially after the fall of the wall! All the best
Dude that was one of the best yet. Never heard of him before. The mind boggles in the idea of "What if this guy was in charge of the Soviets coming out WW2" ?
Thank you AMAC! To be fair, there probably wasn't a 'bright' future for Russians (Vlasov denounced the Soviet Union itself) in Hitler's vision of Europe.
yeah they shouldve put that “Liberation” in quotation marks probably, unless they mean Liberating millions of their countrymen from living by helping the nazis
Stalin abandoned Vlasov and his men to their fate,he didnt give a rats ass to this Decorated Soldier.
Very interesting, informative and worthwhile video.
I first learned about Vlasov from reading Operation Barbarossa: The Russo-German Conflict 1941-1945 by Alan Clark, in high school. Very informative presentation 👍
Just bought this book on Kindle
Another very interesting video - I'm really glad I stumbled across this channel. It would be interesting to know what happened to the other Soviet Generals that were captured by the Germans who didn't switch sides.
Мы идём широкими полями
На восходе утренних лучей.
Мы идём на бой с большевиками
За свободу Родины своей.
На манер "Три танкиста"
За тридцать серебренников вы идете...
Extremely interesting and informative
Great video man, appreciate the details
That story was amazing. I never knew about this. Great job !
"One man who stopped lying could bring down a tyranny"
- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
This is how Stalin brought down tyranny in Germany. So true.
@@BLMVDV Stop your Rationalism. If you even knew one piece of the context in which this quote was made you would that you’re completely wrong.
@@daringdare5078 I know the context, and it's not the most inspiring context for what he went to jail for( with regard to the quote ).
The guy who based his nonsense on Stalin on pure hearsay. You blithering fool.
Yes, I am gonna take the man who thinks stalin killed all pf Russia seriously
Thanks for you history. You have a very good video. Thanks!.
thank you for spreading information about them
Vlasov seems like a good guy fighting for the wrong side a brilliant commander and there's no doubt he could have been a great statesman as well
He was (probably) a good General, made a good career in the Red Army before 1942, but during his trial, he confessed that he was "weak of heart", and that was the reason he decided to collaborate with the Germans.
@@ildart8738 Fighting for a guy as worse as your enemy doesn't really do much to strengthen your heart.
@@markgarrett3647 я так понимаю Сталин хуже гитлера?
@@Aaron-sl2kxAs bad, if not worse
Wrong side?? OMG washed with propaganda
Hitler's initial fears over Vlasov's loyalty was just that. A question of loyalty.
It had nothing to do with the supposed colonization of Russia...
Series: *"Worst betrayals in history"*
Episode *1. Vlasov, the one who burnt Warsaw.*
*SS Kaminski, Vlasov's ROA saved warsaw
a great video as always . it is interesting how many are considered traitors and heroes at the same time.
He isn’t considered a hero by anybody. The nazi didn’t even have any respect for him or just Slavic people in general. He’s a pathetic man and ultimately got what he deserved.
Хоть один нормальный комментарий среди своры местах ых фашистов
I only ever found out about this story because of Hearts of Iron 4 where he was featured as a defector to the Germans after the player occupies the Leningrad region. I wondered about it and did some searching and found your video. Thank for you the backstory.
Methinks that General Vlassow would not be amused if one calls him "SOVIET General"?
So cool. I’m reading The Gulag Archpelago and This video helped a lot
how
@@ДарвинСтоун there is a chapter that talks about Vlasov. So this video helped me to understand the context
@@Chirifreile And what did Solzhenitsyn write about Vlasov?
@@ДарвинСтоун as soon as I arrive to my house I will give you the name of the chapter.
@@ДарвинСтоун chapter 6, The Spring in the abridged version of the Gulag Archipelago
Very good video. I'm historian and WW2 reencator and i reenact ROA, one of the most interesting units, in my opinion, in the german army.
Подразделение карателей по вашему столь интересно? и сегодня эта фамилия синоним Иуды в России как и вся русская церковь за границей, которая и ставит памятники предателям и перебезчикам подобным Власову.
@@alexkorolev1535 Is part of your history, I don´t do moral evaluations.
Can u do one about Sergei Kuzmich Bunyachenko?
Thank you for putting this together. Its an interesting and rather complicated story, and you have explained it clearly. Another Russian who became involved with fighting against Communist Russia on the the German side was Peter Krasnov, the Ataman of the Don Cossacks. He and his troops were White Russian emigres who had fled from Russia in the early 20s. Many had become citizens of other countries. They ended up surrendering to the British in Austria, and were all illegally repatriated to Russia where they were either executed or sent to the Gulag. Thanks again, good viewing.
Can you do Konstantin rodzaevetaky
Where can get those material? I want make a WW2 report
Могу порекомендовать воспоминания Фрëлиха и Штрика-Штрикфельтда о внутренней кухне РОА, очень увлекательно.
Wow such a nice video. I mesmerised by this heart touching video. It is awesome. You must become successful in future.
But for place and time, he'd be regarded as a hero. Russia's Arnold, I suppose. An object lesson for those who would stray from the path they chose for themselves. Sleep in your own ranks no matter your level of comfort.
There's no shame in deserting a Communist Army.
Here is another argument for Vlasov - th-cam.com/video/qzWhvjQpth4/w-d-xo.html
"The Russian defector - Traitor or not? - Andrey Vlasov"
Here I bring up three points to defend Vlasovs actions to see if one sees him as a traitor or not.
It brought a lot of debate, and I learned that a lot of American neo-liberals are defending Stalin and views Stalin's killing of all soldiers from the RLA as justifiable
Except for Neo-libs there is only Stalinists and the moaist/CCP that sees Vlasov as a bad man.
Подгоранием вашего очка удовлетворён
I thoroughly enjoy ur stories of history. But, it seems u r reading a script---nothing wrong with that, just do not do speed reading. Viewers need time to absorb and process. Also, more visual images will b very helpful of the events.
nice video
He looks just like the actor who portrayed Ducot in Sharpe's Rifles!.
Excellent presentation!
A brilliant video I thoroughly enjoyed but I would like to see more information about the white Russians who fought against the bolsheviks it seems to be thin on the ground somehow.🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂 thank you very much again
Nikolai Tolstoy wrote about an American journalist lionising Vlasov when he was a Soviet General, pointing out that no one could know the secret thoughts of someone living under Communism. If anyone was a poor blighter, it was Vlasov, the most hopeless yet noble cause, Prague is his monument, saved from destruction by the Wehrmacht by his men.
Слава героям РОА! Вечная память освободителям!
Can you do a video about Serbian army in ww1?
The defectors of ww2 would be interesting.
If only Patton wouldve given him an audience
Solzhenitsyn was a Captain in the Red Army before his political arrest. He said that Vlasovite had the same meaning as sewage to Russian ears. He said they’d shoot Vlasov prisoners the minute a Russian word escaped their mouth!
A noble leader. An unfortunate end.
I doubt former Soviet citizen knew and especially Russians today know anything about this man.
Maybe some day the criminals in the Kremlin will be gone, but seeing the endless abuse meted out to the Russian population and them accepting all they receive I don't hold much hope.
I'm liking the new animations
OMG thanks for this:)
Great documentary! I especially liked the maps and the information about Vlasov's early life and his service during the Civil War (which is the part I knew the least about). Vlasov is hard for me to judge. While I completely understand his disillusionment with the Soviet system and hatred for Stalin, and can't find fault with his stated goals (in theory), I can't imagine he really could think that any of them could be realized with the help of Nazi Germany. At least he made some positive contribution at the end of the war, helping the insurgents in Prague.
BTW I would love to see you making videos of such quality about the commanders of Polish forces during WW2, especially Władysław Anders and Stanisław Maczek (I know, I've already commented about them at least once). Zygmunt Berling can be an example of a far more ambivalent and controversial, but no less interesting figure.
Hey Artur, I appreciate the insightful comment. The plan is to keep up these map-type videos because they expand the number of topics I can cover in an incredible way.
Right now I am focussing on medieval (central) Europe and the Balkan. Which brings me to my next point: instead of Polish generals of WW2, would you find a video about Stefan Czarniecki interesting? Do you have any other recommendations of Polish figures of history (pre-20th century)?
@@HoH Oh, that's great to hear! A video about Stefan Czarniecki will definitely be interesting. Jan Zamoyski and/or Stanisław Żółkiewski might be even better (both were more than just military commanders). Also, maybe Jan Karol Chodkiewicz would be the best candidate from the Lithuanian part of the Commonwealth.
@@HoH Going a little back in time Jan Tarnowski from Poland and Konstanty Ostrogski from the Grand Duchy of Lithuania would be also great. And from the late period, Tadeusz Kościuszko goes without saying. :)
@@Artur_M. Thank you! I just ordered Lukowski and Zawadzki's history of Poland to become more acquainted with the political history. It is great to be able to finally branch out to medieval Europe thanks to creating maps.
Samara reference 😳
Why is russias western border modern and not the 1930s
Let's remember Hoi4 TNO mod
Samara moment 😳
Cringe
Die the hero, or live to become the villain seems to fit him.
19:45 💀
Народы.ru: "путин вор!"
Путин (облизывая губу , хихикая и чмокая) : "не пойман, не в0р"
Do you think that Vlasov has been a good person or a traitor or both?
Irrelevant question. Same with terrorists/rebels
Terrorists for some and liberty fighters for other
As a Russian I can say, that he most like anti-hero between villains Stalin and Hitler.
@@nick_toz The soviets were already traitors
@@PewPewPlasmagunneolib
#Blastov
1st
He was a traitor. And I could not hold his alignment with the Nazi genocidal dystopia in greater contempt. Nonetheless, I sincerely believe he ( extremely naively ) had sincerely decent intentions. I don’t think we can regard him as much else than a very, very tragic case of a colossally clueless personality,…a brilliant general, with almost no developed sense of politics in its purest form.
Is it not interesting how irrelevant personality is in regard to function in a nation at a given point in time.
He took a decent gamble but it just didn't pan out as planned.
Well murica sided with the USSR
He was a clearly a patriot, one that knew a life before the communists, and had dedicated his life to his country until they turned on him. He tried to save his men’s life and when presented with the opportunity to attempt to overthrow Stalin, he took it. I wouldn’t call him naive, he was clearly a brilliant man. He was too idealistic maybe, and under the circumstances he found himself in, I find it understandable. Unfortunately, the circumstance involved him being under the control of the 2 most evil regimes on the planet. I’d say the poor guy got dealt a really crappy hand.
the story will be Lenin was a capitalist and Marx was not the writer of the communist manifesto. in the "Lenin A biography" book page-25, they said that Lenin translated "the communist manifesto of Carl marks from German to Russia". which means before Lenin, Russia was not a communist. but in another book, i found out that Lenin changed 90% of the Russian companies and factories in to private companies. which means Lenin was a capitalist. this implies that before Lenin, Russia was a communist. which means Carl Marx was a ticket(replacement) who replaces some Russian philosophers and thinkers. so, the white army will be fighting the Jews and their relatives together with the Germans.
Soon the fulfillment of Isaiah 2:4 will take place:
"He will render judgment among the nations and set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, nor will they learn war anymore."
We will enjoy absolute peace, for all the tragical events will be forgotten, according to Isaiah 65:17:
"For look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth; And the former things will not be called to mind, Nor will they come up into the heart."
And there is more.
Have a very pleasant day!