Really, I think Void Elves and Blood Elves forms should mirror each other. Blood Elves have sun-based forms and Void Elves have more moon or void-based forms.
Missed opportunity to model the Pandaren forms off of the August Celestials. Chi-Ji, the Red Crane (travel form), Niuzao, the Black Ox (bear form), Xuen, the White Tiger (cat form), and Yu'lon, the Jade Serpent (flight form). C'mon Tali, that was an easy win. How'd ya miss that!?
20:35 You were so close to embracing the coolest theme for Forsaken druids. Druids of Decay, where all their forms are mushroom themed because that's a natural force in the world.
@@wraithflaire1639 How come? Don't like the idea of all classes being available to all races? I think decay as a theme for undead works very well as it's a very important part of nature, if things didn't decay, it'd be pretty bad :P
Feels weird applying actual humanoids as forms for a class that is all about nature. Orc shapeshifting to arakkoa is like suggesting Night Elves shapeshifting to Tauren.
ye4ah, half of these are terrible suggestions, especially the ogre one haha xD. Like why would a belf druid turn into a phoenix and not a dragonhawk???
I would love the idea of Druids coming about the same way Blood Elf Paladins did; some greater entity (Cenarius) deciding "I am not abandoning them. I am going to save them". That was one of my favorite parts of the Blood Knight questline; finding out that the Naaru was not "trapped"; it was trying to purge and clean them. I could see Cenarius pulling for that. Yeah, the Undead or Goblins or even Dwarves and Gnomes are probably antithetical to the Druidic ways, but what better reason than for Cenarius to decide "No, I am not turning my back on them".
For goblin as druid, we may have a hint in Dragonflight : in Valdrakken we have a female goblin from Venture Co. Who have the duty to make a report about ressources in Dragon isles but she was moved by the sights that she's not want Goblins destroy this nature. Maybe she will be the first druid and will start a ecology market in WoW.
Sorry but as much as I love the kul tiran and zandalari druids being different things, I do love the whole "how can we make a bear into this humanoid race?" thing going on with traditional druids, and I think goblins are perfect for that. You give them varying shades of green or browny-green fur, with colourful spiky hairdos and coiffed styles, they of course sport those big old goblin ears, and their snouts take on a slightly more goblinesque shape as well, smoother and more sharklike, and they all sport big pointy goblin grins. And then on top of that, you deck them out in the scrap armour style they love, I feel like in the animal forms they'd be real dirty fighters, equipping their animal forms with extra stuff to put the hurt on their enemies harder. Bear would have big leather bracers with heavy metal strips like splintmail for blocking, and maybe some on the hind legs with kneepads. The cat could be bandaged up past the elbow and fitted with metal-clawed gauntlets to add that extra hurt over their natural claws, and metal rings outfitted with hooked spikes to turn their tail into a horrible flail type thing. Travel/flight forms *obviously* have a set of driving goggles and a scarf. Aquatic form's an alligator, with scuba goggles and more scrap armour round the wrists and on it's back. And moonkin's more crowlike, with all sorts of good luck charms dangling off the patchwork bits of scrap armour it's wearing, this moonkin stuff's screwy, ya know? Goblin's gotta lean on ol' lady luck to make this kooky caw caw stuff go right.
@@tnecniw Totally yeah, I could see the travel forms maybe having the classic goblin rockets strapped to them, for "extra speed" and perhaps cat and bear having vials of anticoagulants to improve their bleeds. I feel forsaken druids would lean more heavily into the natural rot and decay of life and not lean so heavily on their alchemical side.
I like to imagine the animal forms that the Draenei would adopt as ghostly forms of the extinct animals of Argus. Draenei druids would be preservers of the spirits of the fauna and flora of Argus.
Since we're likely going back to Argus in 10.1.7 for the Draenei/Man'ari questline: I want to see them pop to Eredath at some point and take some of the native species back with them too. Talbuk, Marsuul, Mana Ray, Panthara. And let them loose in the Azuremyst Isles so the populations can grow and it can become like a mini-Argus! I really hope they invite the Krokul back with them too.
For goblins I always thought it would make more sense if we got the gil goblins as the main connection to druidism. So nazjatar wildlife as their forms, and gil goblin customization for goblins aswell
For Orcs I'd prefer to keep things still pretty beasty: Guardian: Clefthoof Feral: Wolf Balance: Arrokoa Air-Travel: Kaliri Ground-Travel: Another Wolf? Water-Travel: Fungal Orca (get it cause ORCa?)
still: Arrakoa are like turning into a pandaran for your bear form. They're made clearly distinct from the "wild things" by the lore. I can actually see some sort of spore themed creature work as their balance form. Or literally anything from Shadowmoon Valley.
Not sure why Orcs should get Clefthoof or any of the hoofer beasts while Tauren has bear, when the Tauren has a close relationship with Kodos. Mm.. makes no sense.
Side note for the Vulpera: Hyaenas are not dogs, they aren't even canines. They're actually more closely related to cats, which works better for the cat form, but Hyaenidae is its own family.. ok carry on.
i just want a bunch of foxy forms. fox cat. fox bear. hell for the boomkin do something similar to the zandalari, take the arrokoa rigging and have the model be based on the slyvern.
Yeah mate, let me just hop off my dimension travelling dragon I got from killing a world ending dragon with all my blue friends to explain how those furry people aren't actually related to dogs :)
I could see hyaena for feral vulpera, with big fox ears added. What other predators exist in their home zone? The scaled lizard/carapace things in the zone could be their bear form.
For Pandaren druids I would personally like it if they take direct inspiration from the august celestials for their forms even making them glowy and stuff like the originals. Cat Form - Xuen/Ban-Lu Travel Form- Niuzao the Ox Balance Form- Chi-Ji (specifically the crane humanoids from the MOP Concept art book on page 170 just use the Zandalari balance forms but reskin them) Flight Form- Yu'lon the jade serpent (obviously micro, maybe a bigger model of the baby dragons) Bear Form- Obviously a turtle I think that they could either stick with the august celestial designs or go for Shen-Zin Su (maybe involving the pandaren heritage armor quests *cough cough*) (Just take the zanadlari bear form and get rid of the spikes on the back) Then Finally Aquatic form should be a Koi fish Also technically in the lore the August celestials are wild gods and I think blessed by Freya, so like both Zandalari and Darkspear trolls they have every reason to learn a form of druidism from them. For Dwarves I think the Wild hammer have more of a reason to learn druidism then so a gryphon flight form would be pretty cool. For Orc/Maghar Orcs they also have the Botani to draw power from which I think could make for some pretty interesting forms but I think the Gronn Idea is too cool not to use and the Zandalari trolls already use the Arakkoa skeleton it may not be to difficult to reskin that to suit whatever race it needs to.
@@samuelsimpson7452 "bears that turn into bears" was stupid even when they said it back then. But it would be way harder to make the ox model work for bear animations then it would be to reskin the ZTroll form. Even though I agree Niuzao makes way more sense for guardian then a stupid turtle does but it would be harder to pull off.
Pandas: Xuen feral, since Xuen is the celestial of Might. Nuzhao bear since the whole Nuzhao's shtick is Protection. Yulon for moonkin, she is the Wisdom Chi-ji for heal spec, he is the Hope. Those are main basics that MUST be upheld. If you are gonna do Panda druids do it right. The rest can be based on literal Pandaria fauna - travel form turtle (pandas travel on turtles, why not become one?) variation of the crane or serpent dragon for flying, that is all you need. I am saying this as that exact guy who plays WoW only for Pandaren and their lore, who leveled all pandaren classes and waits panda druids since MoP.
Not that I am against the idea as I do love the Wolves there are a few issues. First being a Wolf form already exists in the lore. Though it was outlawed by Malfurion, I could see other races trying to use it again. But that is kinda how we got the original Worgen. Also a key difference between Dogs & Cats which is important to the model working with abilities. Dogs cannot swipe. Yes they can move their arms around, but they don't have the correct claws nor are the muscle & skeletal systems set in a way to give power & strength in that movement like a Cat. Dogs attack abilities come from the mouth & jaw, Cats are front arms, paws & somewhat jaws. So Dog models would look weird doing a swipe animation. However I am sure they could do some flavor text & a few small changes so that yes the ability is basically swipe but it is more attuned to a K9.
21:24 I always wanted a Yak for Pandaren's tank form. Like respecting the August Celestials forms. Cloud Serpent for travel form, white tiger for feral, Crane for balance... And if you think about it, Pandarens use turtles to navigate the seas. They could use Turtle forms, but for swimming!. I loved this video, Tali! Super hype!
I think if Druid is the next class to be made playable by all races, they will probably get something similar to what Warlock pets got last patch, a few more generic forms for eatch role, and some color variations of those, leaving the current races with Druidic culture more cosmetic options, while expanding the lore to include the rest of the playable races with generic models.
I believe this is the way it'll go, with more race-based forms later on, but of course it will be decried as "lazy" to implement Druids for all races now instead of two years down the line 🙄
I'd be fine with using generics now with unique forms as they become available. Most people use artifact forms with feral and guard, or stars with moonkin anyway. Plus, it gives me time to level each race as their forms release. Probably need to reuse a few names.
great video! I actually think the best pandaren stuff would be tying their forms to the august celestials, so crane as travel, white tiger as feral, green serpent as flight, and most importantly the black Ox as bear form. I think it would be another good example of using their own culture to create their own form of druid stuff.
I was very against the idea of all classes being available to all races at first, cuz there is a reason some races can't be certain classes. But lore-wise it makes sense that anyone can study any magic they choose, even if it's against their race's culture, or even if it hurts them physically. Also, wielding two different magics isn't anything new. Priest can wield both Light and Void magic, two fundamentally opposing forces, and Warlocks wield Fel and Void as well. So surely beings infused with one magic (Lightforged and Void Elves) can wield an opposing magic despite their biology.
Gnome druid forms need to be balance= sparrow or small birb feral= kitten guardian= Koala bear resto= bonsai tree Swimming=otter travel=small owl/jack deer for ground mounts This is all thank you for listening to my TED talk Edit: no wait Honey badger for guardian
the problem will be. druid will all look the same. when blizzard would doing something like this. it will end like this. like every class has now the same animation.
I think that even if we don't get druids for all in this patch, or even this expac due to all the work it'd take I do 100% agree that this patch will likely be the big lore reason used to allow those new druid/race combos in the future when they are added.
I have suggested in the past. Druids could "empath" their forms from game creatures as a form of transmog. You would have to find a creature you want to empath from (and it'd have to be rigged). Then, all new druid races would just be taught to empath. Forms are way more limited than gear, so opening the whole world of models would be the best... then Blizz wouldn't have to create one for each race... just rig up new creatures each xpac that can be "captured" like hunters do.
I think Draenie and Orcs fit Demon Hunters very well. Both have a history with the legion and demons and I think being around BE/NE enough, at this point should get them, even Void Elves and Nightborne woud make sense.
Man'ari, Fel Orcs, Naga, Broken, and more would all work quite well. Playable Naga and Broken needed to be playable across the board and fel orc options would be awesome.
The forms of druids are related to which school of druidism are they practicing. Some forms are Wild gods, like the bear, cat and stag. Kultiran forms look so different because they have been taught by Ulfar. I think the races introduced to Cenarion circle would shapeshift to the same forms old druid races have. More interesting are the races that would learn druidism from other sources. For example Pandaren forms could be based on August celestials. Orcs could be taught by Tauren, but you could also talk to spirits, since Orcs worship them. Shamans can summon spirit wolves and even transform into one, and i think lore behind this could be greatly expanded.
Draenei would definitely get their druid forms from the broken/list ones cuz they already have druids. Maybe lost ones/broken customisation options for draenei aswell.
When they do the universal pass for paladin, I’d hope they update the models for human/blood elf chargers to catch up with the quality of the other races
as much as I'm looking forward to the many different forms of druids, I kind of like to think of it as one of the, if not the last class they make playable for every race. Maybe before Evoker but after DH.
I don't see Druids being made available for all races all at once because of the sheer amount of work that would be involved. However, Blizzard could take one race an create a Druid class for it to demonstrate that it can be done and to signal their intent of giving the Druid class to additional races in the future.
@@christopherdaffron8115 I think druid and DHs (because of unique forms) will be added piecemeal rather than universal like shamans (because totems just require 4 asset recolors) and paladins (nothing new to add).
Evoker, DH and druid should never be available for ALL races. I'll go even further, Evoker and DH should never be available for any other race other than Dracthyr / Elves. Yes, I'm dying on this hill.
20:01 Pretty sure Elune is from the yet unseen and yet unmentioned Pantheon of Life. Titan-Adjacent like the Eternal Ones at least (Winter Queen is mentioned to be Elune's sister so they're probably all the same species (or "race" as they're incorrectly known in WoW) but Odyn apparently got in the way of us finding out more about that.... [AVGN impersonation] Odyn? More like Oh'd*ck)
Why not just scrap race-tied Druid Forms? Let ALL Druid races just pick the form they want (NE w/ a mohawk-catform. Troll w/ an undead moonkin form, etc.) Then they won't have to make so many new forms, and allow people more customization/personalization options.
I think the tropical island forms for Goblins is better because those islands would be the first time most goblins would have been fully immersed in nature
Tha fal’dorei! Which would be interesting as their creation was from an exploding Arcan’dor, which was a tree meant to be a perfect balance between nature and arcane magic
For Draenei forms, you have a bunch of animated armors to pull from. Heck, Auchindoun is essentially a factory for hem. Perfect Boomie form. Bears would be Elekks, because of course they would.
I whould rly like to see the paladin for every Race. And the special mount for paladin to be customize as well, like for tauren for example to change from kodo to a horde ore Something else
Some brilliant suggestions here, obviously. You can't go wrong with a few turtles and apes, like sir. Please yes. My only thoughts to the contrary; First thought. Sentient, Intellectually-Advanced Races. Races that have examples of cultures, speech, clothes, architecture, art, gods and purposes of their own. I don't see those making sense for Druid Forms, I see them as Allied Races, playable or non. Saberon, Arakkoa, Amphet, Harpies, Quillboar, etc. These are all humanoid races, not basser intellect creatures. It would be like a race getting Tuskarr as a Druid Form. It just feels wrong I'd rather play a Tuskarr or a Saberon, or an Arakkoa. To me it's doubling up on the already cycle-breaking feeling of such a dramatic expansion of Druidism into other races. Which I'm in full support of, so long as it makes as much sense as possible, both Lore wise, and Thematically. Second, I LOVE and have always loved the idea of Emerald Nightmare Druid Forms, back in Legion I actually hoped that there would be a questline. Where that small pocket of Nightmare in the Emerald Grove remains? I'd thought that could have become a Den for Druids that undergo ritual similar to that which Demon Hunters endure, taking in the Nightmare and overcoming its influence, mastering it, and using it against the larger whole. Imagine the feeling of your first transformation as a Kaldorei Nightmare Druid into that Shadow Stalker! We didn't get that obviously, so after that I hoped for Glyphs, Skins, something not tied to Artifact Appearances, but rather, actual story. With that I'll say that the Emerald Nightmare was the thorn baby of Old God Naughties and the Emerald Dream. Where as Void Elves are closer to a "Pure" state of void, and for thematical satisfaction, I'd appreciate seeing that expanded on, rather than forced into a skewed off variation. And lastly, I actually hope for them to pull the cord at some point and just make Druid Forms Race-Wide. If a Goblin can learn Cenarius Druidism, why on Azeroth could a Worgen not learn Kul'Tiran (Drust) Druidism, or an Orc learn Zandalari (Loa) Druidism? -Thank you for coming to my RED Talks.
For gnomes, I would think they would try to overcompensate for their physical "short comings" with their forms. Also they are greedy, yes, and power hungry, so I would think they would take especially big, powerful, and menacing forms. IMO, it's a perfect lay-up to approach a small race thinking they're a push over, only for them to turn into huge, terrifying creatures, like Devilsaurs (cats), Riverbeats (bear), Threshers (aquatic) and so on
The best way to do new forms would be getting the Dracthyr treatment of highly customizable forms to compensate the lack of exclusive forms for each new race, and races included onwards. Same with shaman totems and paladin mounts.
Blood Elf Druids is the one i'd love the most. Think it just makes a lot of sense for them to be Druids. They have a massive reason to want to become druids right at their frontyard. The Dead Scar isn't gonna heal itself. And considering the entire land of Quel'thalas is magical, plants, animals and people alike, Blood Elves could draw their nature magic from the magic around them in the natural ley lines of the world itself. This would also add up with the sun magic Druids use, drawing the power from the Sunwell that have poured magic into the land for thousands of years. The only question marks i have for Blood Elf Druids would be the moon magic and the bear form. The other Druid forms seem obvious, with some debate on if it should be a phoenix or dragonhawk as a flight form, but the bear form being just a bear doesn't sound right to me, yet i don't know another option.
I would love Night Elf and Forsaken Paladins. I've always been an advocate that an undead soldier using the light to protect others despite it making him feel discomfort or pain is a pretty badass character and shows the kind of personal sacrifice a paladin is supposed to embody. Plus Night Elf paladins of Elune that pick up arms to defend the new world tree after the burning of Teldrassil would be awesome.
I feel like worgen should get the Elune paladin theme as an option as well. A werewolf paladin serving a mood goddess just sounds awesome. There's a ton of paladin themes that could be made as cool options for our characters.
@@CrabCrow There's been a ton of great concepts. Keyboardturn/Simaia and Lost Codex had a great proposal they'd made covering a bunch of themes and types I loved it. It'd be another great layer of customization to be able to pick which cosmic power you want to ally with /represent.
for blood elve balance I would go the dragonhawk route. something like a high-rez, upright version of the Zul'aman Dragonhawk boss. I personally think that mechagnome druids dont make sense, even after a potential 10.2 explanation. maybe as a later add-on, like: 10.2 gives us gnome druids and some time later some mechagnomes go "you know what, I really like this whole defending nature thing! maybe i can improve those shapes as well!" and they get the classical druid forms, but cyborg-ified. coils for ancles, chainsaws for teeth, that kind of stuff
Hyenas are a lot closer to cats than canines evolutively speaking. And I think the missed mark here is that most of the forms porposed are from inteligent creatures, and the druid thing is not turning to other races, is turning to beasts. There is grey area in the moonkin who are not the brightest but certanly have some form of sapience, but far from saberon level.
Gnomes and Goblins.. yeah, real druidism is cool.. but mechs are 100x cooler and I think wow players generally agree with that. And to bridge the gap, I think the mechs just need to be very tightly modeled on standard druid forms, as an engineers way to achieve the prowess and capability of said animal forms. And it has to be said, mech customization is WAY to cool to not do that.
The best way to pick out forms for most of the races is to look at what is in their starter areas. That's why as others suggested, Dragonhawk for Belf. They have cats prowling around their starting area, too. Cat form isn't really called cat form, it is feral. So you can cross-pick it from Ferocity hunter pets, and that would work. A there are wolves that would work. And a spider is under the Ferocity category. Warp Stalker is under Cunning but it also fits the Cat/feral concept. Slash, invisible/hiding etc, My main question is, who gets a platypus as a aquatic travel form? I think that should be a race that seems fun but has a bite.
Can anyone understand what is said at 23:59? "Instead of bear, they have [???]" It just shows a picture of a Draenei so I am not sure what form is being proposed.
The horde goblins come from tropical islands. Clearly their flight form should be a Parrot. Tank form should be a Pig (with a greased customization). Melee form a snake or scorpion. And Balance form should be a boomkin, but with a grass skirt. Also, don't sleep on bugs. I think Vulpera and even Undead could have a whole suite of bug forms. And Void elves could draw from some of the silithid models.
Goblin druids are one of TWO things. They summon mechanical mounts and just sit ontop of it like a mount which would be a laugh OR... OR... Imagine if it was just oil spill victims.
I definitely think looking towards the goblins' tropical side is the key to finding their druid forms. Here are the forms I propose: Bear: Crab or Gorilla Cat: Monkey or Raptor Moonkin: Lasher Travel (Air): Parrot Travel (Land): Idk, Raptor again? Travel (Water): Hammerhead Shark
Race/Class combos I'd like to see: Human Druid and Shaman. There's a lot of roleplaying potential here, and Kul Tirans can already be these things. Shaman totem: A Warcraft 3 human tower with shaman runes. Dwarf and Dark Iron Druid. This idea already exists in other fantasy IP's, so why not here? Night Elf Shaman and Paladin. The shaman idea comes from Primalists like Koroleth, and it also fits their feral side. The Paladin has been an idea since Legion, and it would match the warrior- side of the Moon Priestesses. It's something many fans have been asking for. Shaman totem: Something carved out of Ashenvale oak with a glowing moon symbol. Pally mount: A "Lightsaber". Gnome Shaman and Mechagnome Shaman. They already harness some of the elements in their technology, such as electricity. Shaman totem: Gnomeregan and Mechagon themed conductors. Draenei and Lightforged Demon Hunter. Since they can already become warlocks and have a connection with Illidan through the Outland and Argus campaigns, it could work. Worgen Shaman. Same as the night elves. Shaman totem: Something carved out of the trees of the Witchwood, with the mark of Goldrinn. Void Elf Paladin. They can already become holy priests, there are theories online about "void paladins", and Alliance players really want that "High Elf Paladin", so go for it. Pally mount: "A Light/Void- themed unicorn mount." Orc and Mag'har Demon Hunter. There's the Legion and Outland connections, so why not? There's already one in Hearthstone. Forsaken Paladin. It could work because of Calia Menethil, but would require more story to make sense. Pally mount: An undead "Lightcharger". Highmountain Tauren Paladin. They too believe in An'she, so they could totally become Sunwalkers. Pally mount: A "Sunwalker Moose" Troll Paladin. There are already Zandalari paladins, thanks to the Loa connection, and there's a Gurubashi paladin who worships Kimbul in Hearthstone, so I'm sure Darkspears could do it too. Pally mount: A Loa- blessed raptor. Blood Elf, Nightborne, and Pandaren Druid. These combos pretty much write themselves.
This was such a fun video man, well done on like 85% of your picks. Playable arakoa would be so freakn cool and I would actually go back to Boomkin for!
I would add unique race specific Druid forms, for each race like weve seen for the Kul Tiran and Zandalari. Here are my suggestions for the races that can be druids now: Night Elf (The basest of Druid forms) Night Saber (Dps) Black Bear (Tank) Moonkin (Ranged Dps) Giant Owl (Flight Form) Stag (Travel Form) Leopard Seal (Swim Form) Worgen (Tried to go with something Gilneas/werewolf vibe) Dire Worg (Dps) Wolf/bear beast (Tank) Raven Humanoid (Ranged Dps) Raven (Flight Form) Wolf (Travel Form) Wolf Eel (Swim Form) - similar to the Nazjatar boss but smaller Darkspear Troll (Heavy Jungle theme here in forms) Tiger (Dps) Gorilla (Tank) Bat humanoid (Ranged Dps) Bat (Flight Form) Cheetah (Travel Form) Crocolisk (Swim form) Mulgore Tauren (Forms that are associated with Tauren, Barrens and their beasts) Lion (Dps) Kodo Beast/Thunder Lizard (Tank) Hawk humanoid with horns (Ranged Dps) Hawk (Flight Form) Zhevra/Plainstrider (Travel Form) Giant Salmon (Swim Form) Highmountain Tauren (Very native american/canadian bestiary theme) Puma (Dps) Grizzly Bear (Tank) Eagle Humanoid with antlers(Ranged Dps) Eagle (Flight Form) Moose (Travel form) Giant Beaver (Swim Form) Each comes with multiple color choices, which can be changed at the barber shop.
I’ve said this multiple times but the races have literally all been living together for 20+ years now. What’s stopping a goblin from travelling 5 mins up orgrimmar to the Druid trainer to learn how to be a Druid. Or any other race/ class combo
yes give me druids for everything! I sadly would go the more difficult route and focus a little more on "bear, but with tusks" because I think it's neat seeing the spin on things 🥺
when i was a kid, i had a ton of cool ideas for druid forms for the races that didnt have them (this was back in wrath) and i told my parents about them and they explained to me that it didnt make sense in the lore and races like forsaken dont have a connection with nature and cant be druids… i am glad that someday (hopefully soon) i may get to see some of those childhood dreams realized
Orc druid forms Boomkin - Arakkoa Feral cat - saberon Feral bear - riverbeast or draenor boar Travel - rylak (flying), draenor wolf/raptor(land) Shark(aquatic). Tree form for resto spec as a glyph (botani)
I still wish we would get class race skins idea you had Tali years ago, it was my favorite video idea you ever had, for example light forged draenei would have shadow priest spec reskin to light stuff etc etc, Kultiras priest would have more water based skin priest or shamans I don't remember exactly, it's years since I saw that video :D
I would love to see the pandaren turtle and the rest, I love the idea of pandaren and vulperian druids your ideas are great! Would love to see a serpent fly form but the balance for pandaren doesn’t really fit with the rest however it is still very cool. Great video :)
When Ion was mentioned to need a reason in game/lore before giving a race a new class. Shadowlands was the ultimate excuse, The orc that went to ardenweald and bonded with the Winter Queen is now a druid; The undead that went Kyrian, and freed the Naaru, now carries the light; The Lightforge that experienced Maldraxxus and start to ponder the true nature of everything is now a druid from mastering the constructs. etc... etc... The Goblin that saw the maw and help Kirim and modified the protoform forge (miniturization of the protoform forge to effectively give them selves animal forms) like Bear form :Moneymental-turns into a living treasure(the ultimate defense is having a lot of money); cat form: Jani(the Loa of trash have granted this form to the goblins-"Never have I seen another creature that love trash as much as I do, Look at their inventions"; Boomkin: Faeries-(Memory of Lady Moonberries' prank).
Loved the video! I'm sure that Blizzard have already thought about the potential to sell druid skins on the Trader's Post in the future, and by expanding the classes that can use them they'll sell more tokens etc. So yeah I think it'll happen, and I cannot wait tbh!
I suspect the Dragonhawk maybe part of the Belf druid. Also Human druid may get a new if classic bear model, maybe a grizzly or something to show their origins from Northrend. I also see wolf/worgs as the Orc cat form, it just fits too well and would be easy to spot in PvP. But ultimately I don't see Blizz created too many new models for expanded Druid races. They will probably recycle many older models (perhaps uprezed) and just use that. But I also suspect the coming all races can become druids will be a slow roll out. Meaning Blizz will want to test and show the community first and see the reaction before committing to each new race forms. So some races will be available in Dragonflight with others coming in later patches and xpacs.
I have been waiting for gnome druids since lich king. way back then, we were talking (and joking) about teddy bear form, kitten form, gold fish, fawn, and hummingbird travel forms, shrubbery heals, and baby owl boomie. I want them.... so much.
Haha, what a Great job on this video guys! It's been a while since I've even cracked open Retail as its been Classic all the time for me lately but maybe it's time to give it another look 😊 Tali does make it sound exciting 😂
I feel like Void Elves should be a traditional take; the standard animals, but Void-twisted in some ways. Multi-eyed tentacle bears are a must
Their moonkin form could be a Faceless One
Sign me up for multi-eyed tentacle bears!
Really, I think Void Elves and Blood Elves forms should mirror each other. Blood Elves have sun-based forms and Void Elves have more moon or void-based forms.
I like the idea of Cat Form being one of those Void flavored warp stalkers.
I don’t like Druid’s
Missed opportunity to model the Pandaren forms off of the August Celestials. Chi-Ji, the Red Crane (travel form), Niuzao, the Black Ox (bear form), Xuen, the White Tiger (cat form), and Yu'lon, the Jade Serpent (flight form).
C'mon Tali, that was an easy win. How'd ya miss that!?
maybe the appearance will be in the shop
Pandaren should've had druid from day one T_T.
20:35 You were so close to embracing the coolest theme for Forsaken druids. Druids of Decay, where all their forms are mushroom themed because that's a natural force in the world.
Circle of spores druids around the world rejoice!
Smaller version of the fungal giants from outland for a tank form? :P
Oh I like this one a lot
If I hadn't drop WoW already that would have done it.
@@wraithflaire1639 How come? Don't like the idea of all classes being available to all races?
I think decay as a theme for undead works very well as it's a very important part of nature, if things didn't decay, it'd be pretty bad :P
Feels weird applying actual humanoids as forms for a class that is all about nature. Orc shapeshifting to arakkoa is like suggesting Night Elves shapeshifting to Tauren.
ye4ah, half of these are terrible suggestions, especially the ogre one haha xD. Like why would a belf druid turn into a phoenix and not a dragonhawk???
tbf Zandalari Troll moonkin form is essentially the corrupted arrakkoa from HFC
There are humans concerned about nature in the World of Warcraft.
@@camaradacomissario9641 epic brain fart man.
zandalari already use the same rig and like 99% of the model
I would love the idea of Druids coming about the same way Blood Elf Paladins did; some greater entity (Cenarius) deciding "I am not abandoning them. I am going to save them". That was one of my favorite parts of the Blood Knight questline; finding out that the Naaru was not "trapped"; it was trying to purge and clean them.
I could see Cenarius pulling for that. Yeah, the Undead or Goblins or even Dwarves and Gnomes are probably antithetical to the Druidic ways, but what better reason than for Cenarius to decide "No, I am not turning my back on them".
Exactly❤
For goblin as druid, we may have a hint in Dragonflight : in Valdrakken we have a female goblin from Venture Co. Who have the duty to make a report about ressources in Dragon isles but she was moved by the sights that she's not want Goblins destroy this nature. Maybe she will be the first druid and will start a ecology market in WoW.
I feel like, when it comes to dwarves, your yeti suggestion would function much better as a balance form rather than a bear form
though so as well!
A Wolverine! LOL
Sorry but as much as I love the kul tiran and zandalari druids being different things, I do love the whole "how can we make a bear into this humanoid race?" thing going on with traditional druids, and I think goblins are perfect for that. You give them varying shades of green or browny-green fur, with colourful spiky hairdos and coiffed styles, they of course sport those big old goblin ears, and their snouts take on a slightly more goblinesque shape as well, smoother and more sharklike, and they all sport big pointy goblin grins. And then on top of that, you deck them out in the scrap armour style they love, I feel like in the animal forms they'd be real dirty fighters, equipping their animal forms with extra stuff to put the hurt on their enemies harder.
Bear would have big leather bracers with heavy metal strips like splintmail for blocking, and maybe some on the hind legs with kneepads.
The cat could be bandaged up past the elbow and fitted with metal-clawed gauntlets to add that extra hurt over their natural claws, and metal rings outfitted with hooked spikes to turn their tail into a horrible flail type thing.
Travel/flight forms *obviously* have a set of driving goggles and a scarf.
Aquatic form's an alligator, with scuba goggles and more scrap armour round the wrists and on it's back.
And moonkin's more crowlike, with all sorts of good luck charms dangling off the patchwork bits of scrap armour it's wearing, this moonkin stuff's screwy, ya know? Goblin's gotta lean on ol' lady luck to make this kooky caw caw stuff go right.
Is it weird that I also imagine the druid forms with like... machinery / chemicals added?
Or is that a bit too much into forsaken?
@@tnecniw Totally yeah, I could see the travel forms maybe having the classic goblin rockets strapped to them, for "extra speed" and perhaps cat and bear having vials of anticoagulants to improve their bleeds. I feel forsaken druids would lean more heavily into the natural rot and decay of life and not lean so heavily on their alchemical side.
@@Khadharphak Tho it would be badass to go into the apotharcy side or at the least have that as an skin option for forsaken druids.
Aquatic form goblin shark, anything less is just a missed opportunity
@@TheRaimundis I didn't even think of that, brilliant
I like to imagine the animal forms that the Draenei would adopt as ghostly forms of the extinct animals of Argus. Draenei druids would be preservers of the spirits of the fauna and flora of Argus.
That would be fantastic!
Lore loving Draenei stand here: yes please…also please stop cutting onions under my eyes
Since we're likely going back to Argus in 10.1.7 for the Draenei/Man'ari questline:
I want to see them pop to Eredath at some point and take some of the native species back with them too. Talbuk, Marsuul, Mana Ray, Panthara. And let them loose in the Azuremyst Isles so the populations can grow and it can become like a mini-Argus!
I really hope they invite the Krokul back with them too.
For goblins I always thought it would make more sense if we got the gil goblins as the main connection to druidism.
So nazjatar wildlife as their forms, and gil goblin customization for goblins aswell
For Orcs I'd prefer to keep things still pretty beasty:
Guardian: Clefthoof
Feral: Wolf
Balance: Arrokoa
Air-Travel: Kaliri
Ground-Travel: Another Wolf?
Water-Travel: Fungal Orca (get it cause ORCa?)
still: Arrakoa are like turning into a pandaran for your bear form. They're made clearly distinct from the "wild things" by the lore. I can actually see some sort of spore themed creature work as their balance form. Or literally anything from Shadowmoon Valley.
@@FancyTophatDudeit could be like the zandalari balance form i guess since it appears to be the same model for the arakoa
@@FancyTophatDude Yeah, Arakkoa are not animals
A frost wolf if you are mag'har, or other variations like that.
Not sure why Orcs should get Clefthoof or any of the hoofer beasts while Tauren has bear, when the Tauren has a close relationship with Kodos. Mm.. makes no sense.
Side note for the Vulpera: Hyaenas are not dogs, they aren't even canines. They're actually more closely related to cats, which works better for the cat form, but Hyaenidae is its own family.. ok carry on.
i just want a bunch of foxy forms. fox cat. fox bear. hell for the boomkin do something similar to the zandalari, take the arrokoa rigging and have the model be based on the slyvern.
Canines are wolves and dogs lol if it's related to cats it's felines just wanna correct that part
Yeah mate, let me just hop off my dimension travelling dragon I got from killing a world ending dragon with all my blue friends to explain how those furry people aren't actually related to dogs :)
Yeen science about the funny giggle frens
I could see hyaena for feral vulpera, with big fox ears added. What other predators exist in their home zone? The scaled lizard/carapace things in the zone could be their bear form.
For Pandaren druids I would personally like it if they take direct inspiration from the august celestials for their forms even making them glowy and stuff like the originals.
Cat Form - Xuen/Ban-Lu
Travel Form- Niuzao the Ox
Balance Form- Chi-Ji (specifically the crane humanoids from the MOP Concept art book on page 170 just use the Zandalari balance forms but reskin them)
Flight Form- Yu'lon the jade serpent (obviously micro, maybe a bigger model of the baby dragons)
Bear Form- Obviously a turtle I think that they could either stick with the august celestial designs or go for Shen-Zin Su (maybe involving the pandaren heritage armor quests *cough cough*)
(Just take the zanadlari bear form and get rid of the spikes on the back)
Then Finally Aquatic form should be a Koi fish
Also technically in the lore the August celestials are wild gods and I think blessed by Freya, so like both Zandalari and Darkspear trolls they have every reason to learn a form of druidism from them.
For Dwarves I think the Wild hammer have more of a reason to learn druidism then so a gryphon flight form would be pretty cool.
For Orc/Maghar Orcs they also have the Botani to draw power from which I think could make for some pretty interesting forms but I think the Gronn Idea is too cool not to use and the Zandalari trolls already use the Arakkoa skeleton it may not be to difficult to reskin that to suit whatever race it needs to.
Absolutely agree with the Orcs should have botani-flavour as druids!
Nah, the tank form has to be the Ox. The swim form could be a turtle. Just so long as they stay far away from the "bears that turn into bears" joke.
@@samuelsimpson7452 "bears that turn into bears" was stupid even when they said it back then. But it would be way harder to make the ox model work for bear animations then it would be to reskin the ZTroll form. Even though I agree Niuzao makes way more sense for guardian then a stupid turtle does but it would be harder to pull off.
I would love if the pandaren bear form was just them getting down on all fours
Pandas:
Xuen feral, since Xuen is the celestial of Might.
Nuzhao bear since the whole Nuzhao's shtick is Protection.
Yulon for moonkin, she is the Wisdom
Chi-ji for heal spec, he is the Hope.
Those are main basics that MUST be upheld. If you are gonna do Panda druids do it right.
The rest can be based on literal Pandaria fauna - travel form turtle (pandas travel on turtles, why not become one?) variation of the crane or serpent dragon for flying, that is all you need.
I am saying this as that exact guy who plays WoW only for Pandaren and their lore, who leveled all pandaren classes and waits panda druids since MoP.
Nightborne already have druid forms: when you go into Suramar as a druid in form, your form changes to a disguised one. They already exist.
You're not wrong, for gnome druids. It's just the baby forms that we already have as non-combat pets. I've been wanting this since cataclysm!
A gnome bear tank would be the shit
Not that I am against the idea as I do love the Wolves there are a few issues.
First being a Wolf form already exists in the lore. Though it was outlawed by Malfurion, I could see other races trying to use it again. But that is kinda how we got the original Worgen.
Also a key difference between Dogs & Cats which is important to the model working with abilities. Dogs cannot swipe. Yes they can move their arms around, but they don't have the correct claws nor are the muscle & skeletal systems set in a way to give power & strength in that movement like a Cat. Dogs attack abilities come from the mouth & jaw, Cats are front arms, paws & somewhat jaws. So Dog models would look weird doing a swipe animation.
However I am sure they could do some flavor text & a few small changes so that yes the ability is basically swipe but it is more attuned to a K9.
21:24 I always wanted a Yak for Pandaren's tank form. Like respecting the August Celestials forms. Cloud Serpent for travel form, white tiger for feral, Crane for balance... And if you think about it, Pandarens use turtles to navigate the seas. They could use Turtle forms, but for swimming!. I loved this video, Tali! Super hype!
I think if Druid is the next class to be made playable by all races, they will probably get something similar to what Warlock pets got last patch, a few more generic forms for eatch role, and some color variations of those, leaving the current races with Druidic culture more cosmetic options, while expanding the lore to include the rest of the playable races with generic models.
I believe this is the way it'll go, with more race-based forms later on, but of course it will be decried as "lazy" to implement Druids for all races now instead of two years down the line 🙄
I'd be fine with using generics now with unique forms as they become available. Most people use artifact forms with feral and guard, or stars with moonkin anyway.
Plus, it gives me time to level each race as their forms release. Probably need to reuse a few names.
great video! I actually think the best pandaren stuff would be tying their forms to the august celestials, so crane as travel, white tiger as feral, green serpent as flight, and most importantly the black Ox as bear form. I think it would be another good example of using their own culture to create their own form of druid stuff.
I was very against the idea of all classes being available to all races at first, cuz there is a reason some races can't be certain classes. But lore-wise it makes sense that anyone can study any magic they choose, even if it's against their race's culture, or even if it hurts them physically.
Also, wielding two different magics isn't anything new. Priest can wield both Light and Void magic, two fundamentally opposing forces, and Warlocks wield Fel and Void as well. So surely beings infused with one magic (Lightforged and Void Elves) can wield an opposing magic despite their biology.
Gnome druid forms need to be
balance= sparrow or small birb
feral= kitten
guardian= Koala bear
resto= bonsai tree
Swimming=otter
travel=small owl/jack deer for ground mounts
This is all thank you for listening to my TED talk
Edit: no wait Honey badger for guardian
the problem will be. druid will all look the same. when blizzard would doing something like this. it will end like this.
like every class has now the same animation.
Gnome/goblins would have mechanical forms
Gnomes mounts scale up to the same size as a tauren's mount. If anything gnomes should have *big* druid forms
This is what I want and would 100% get me back into the game (I haven't subbed for ages).
a Lightforged Warlock said to me "you enslave demons to wield their power; I enslave them to make them suffer. We are not the same."
i have wanted an undead druid since i made mine 16 yrs ago. Good time for then to update all the "undead beast" skins and use for undead druid forms.
Same! I always wanted to use that blighthawk as a flight form
Forsaken. Frankenstein style animals. Roadkill animal-bits sewn together.
I think that even if we don't get druids for all in this patch, or even this expac due to all the work it'd take I do 100% agree that this patch will likely be the big lore reason used to allow those new druid/race combos in the future when they are added.
Orc Druid would be the only thing that gets me back into WoW.. probably.
I have suggested in the past. Druids could "empath" their forms from game creatures as a form of transmog. You would have to find a creature you want to empath from (and it'd have to be rigged). Then, all new druid races would just be taught to empath. Forms are way more limited than gear, so opening the whole world of models would be the best... then Blizz wouldn't have to create one for each race... just rig up new creatures each xpac that can be "captured" like hunters do.
I always thought the wildhammers wouldve been a great way to introduce dwarven druids.
I think Draenie and Orcs fit Demon Hunters very well. Both have a history with the legion and demons and I think being around BE/NE enough, at this point should get them, even Void Elves and Nightborne woud make sense.
Man'ari, Fel Orcs, Naga, Broken, and more would all work quite well.
Playable Naga and Broken needed to be playable across the board and fel orc options would be awesome.
The forms of druids are related to which school of druidism are they practicing. Some forms are Wild gods, like the bear, cat and stag. Kultiran forms look so different because they have been taught by Ulfar. I think the races introduced to Cenarion circle would shapeshift to the same forms old druid races have. More interesting are the races that would learn druidism from other sources. For example Pandaren forms could be based on August celestials. Orcs could be taught by Tauren, but you could also talk to spirits, since Orcs worship them. Shamans can summon spirit wolves and even transform into one, and i think lore behind this could be greatly expanded.
Every class now will be druid, no more class balance issues
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@@poundsofslothcigarsit’s a joke, the original title had a typo that said “class” instead of “race”
Draenei would definitely get their druid forms from the broken/list ones cuz they already have druids.
Maybe lost ones/broken customisation options for draenei aswell.
When they do the universal pass for paladin, I’d hope they update the models for human/blood elf chargers to catch up with the quality of the other races
Forsaken paladin is a cool concept. Using the Light and hurting yourself in the proccess like a true martyr
@@Khagrim I’d love to see the divine steed for forsaken, too. Prolly have gold light shining out of its wounds or something cool like that
"Immersion" as an excuse never made sense to me.. Characters in fantasy are always the unique exceptions, so why can't WE play as them?
as much as I'm looking forward to the many different forms of druids, I kind of like to think of it as one of the, if not the last class they make playable for every race. Maybe before Evoker but after DH.
Thing is, I actually dont see demon hunters becoming playable for every race. I don't see it personally.
I don't see Druids being made available for all races all at once because of the sheer amount of work that would be involved. However, Blizzard could take one race an create a Druid class for it to demonstrate that it can be done and to signal their intent of giving the Druid class to additional races in the future.
@@christopherdaffron8115 I think druid and DHs (because of unique forms) will be added piecemeal rather than universal like shamans (because totems just require 4 asset recolors) and paladins (nothing new to add).
Evoker, DH and druid should never be available for ALL races. I'll go even further, Evoker and DH should never be available for any other race other than Dracthyr / Elves. Yes, I'm dying on this hill.
@@pepepicapinto543same. makes no sense whatsoever.
As a druid main, I've wanted undead druids since vanilla.
20:01 Pretty sure Elune is from the yet unseen and yet unmentioned Pantheon of Life. Titan-Adjacent like the Eternal Ones at least (Winter Queen is mentioned to be Elune's sister so they're probably all the same species (or "race" as they're incorrectly known in WoW) but Odyn apparently got in the way of us finding out more about that.... [AVGN impersonation] Odyn? More like Oh'd*ck)
Why not just scrap race-tied Druid Forms? Let ALL Druid races just pick the form they want (NE w/ a mohawk-catform. Troll w/ an undead moonkin form, etc.) Then they won't have to make so many new forms, and allow people more customization/personalization options.
I think the tropical island forms for Goblins is better because those islands would be the first time most goblins would have been fully immersed in nature
I enjoy this case study of Tali slowly losing his sanity throughout the video.
For nightborne balance form i would use those half spider half nightborne creatures in the ruins thats used as an instance, dont remember their name
Tha fal’dorei! Which would be interesting as their creation was from an exploding Arcan’dor, which was a tree meant to be a perfect balance between nature and arcane magic
Getting over a cold and sitting here in my room, sipping a nice coffee. Feeling very comfy, especially thanks to this video. Thanks much, Tali!
For Draenei forms, you have a bunch of animated armors to pull from. Heck, Auchindoun is essentially a factory for hem. Perfect Boomie form. Bears would be Elekks, because of course they would.
Elekk are from Draenor, but yeah, they made such a tight connection with them I 100% agree
Holy shit, an exarch construct moonkin form.
I've wanted them to bring back Claws of Shirvallah since they removed them.
I think they could rename the forms instead of Bear Form call it guardian from then they could go wild with the forms like Tali did here
I can see goblins as Druids, they'd just find some way to monetize it. Like, imagine charging the cenarian circle for their efforts. XD
druids for all races😭
I would totally make a Mecha Gnome druid if they make mecha forms, especially if the swim form was a submarine... just not an OceanGate version.
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They'll think about giving each race druids.. YET refuse to give Worgans tails or straight backs?!?! Sad days...
I whould rly like to see the paladin for every Race.
And the special mount for paladin to be customize as well, like for tauren for example to change from kodo to a horde ore Something else
Some brilliant suggestions here, obviously. You can't go wrong with a few turtles and apes, like sir. Please yes. My only thoughts to the contrary;
First thought. Sentient, Intellectually-Advanced Races. Races that have examples of cultures, speech, clothes, architecture, art, gods and purposes of their own. I don't see those making sense for Druid Forms, I see them as Allied Races, playable or non. Saberon, Arakkoa, Amphet, Harpies, Quillboar, etc. These are all humanoid races, not basser intellect creatures. It would be like a race getting Tuskarr as a Druid Form. It just feels wrong I'd rather play a Tuskarr or a Saberon, or an Arakkoa. To me it's doubling up on the already cycle-breaking feeling of such a dramatic expansion of Druidism into other races. Which I'm in full support of, so long as it makes as much sense as possible, both Lore wise, and Thematically.
Second, I LOVE and have always loved the idea of Emerald Nightmare Druid Forms, back in Legion I actually hoped that there would be a questline. Where that small pocket of Nightmare in the Emerald Grove remains? I'd thought that could have become a Den for Druids that undergo ritual similar to that which Demon Hunters endure, taking in the Nightmare and overcoming its influence, mastering it, and using it against the larger whole. Imagine the feeling of your first transformation as a Kaldorei Nightmare Druid into that Shadow Stalker!
We didn't get that obviously, so after that I hoped for Glyphs, Skins, something not tied to Artifact Appearances, but rather, actual story. With that I'll say that the Emerald Nightmare was the thorn baby of Old God Naughties and the Emerald Dream. Where as Void Elves are closer to a "Pure" state of void, and for thematical satisfaction, I'd appreciate seeing that expanded on, rather than forced into a skewed off variation.
And lastly, I actually hope for them to pull the cord at some point and just make Druid Forms Race-Wide. If a Goblin can learn Cenarius Druidism, why on Azeroth could a Worgen not learn Kul'Tiran (Drust) Druidism, or an Orc learn Zandalari (Loa) Druidism?
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Great Video. As a person who had leveled up every druid class, I had been only hoping for Panda to be added. But love your take on them..
I haven't played in a while. But Druids didn't get any new races, did they?
For gnomes, I would think they would try to overcompensate for their physical "short comings" with their forms. Also they are greedy, yes, and power hungry, so I would think they would take especially big, powerful, and menacing forms. IMO, it's a perfect lay-up to approach a small race thinking they're a push over, only for them to turn into huge, terrifying creatures, like Devilsaurs (cats), Riverbeats (bear), Threshers (aquatic) and so on
The best way to do new forms would be getting the Dracthyr treatment of highly customizable forms to compensate the lack of exclusive forms for each new race, and races included onwards. Same with shaman totems and paladin mounts.
Blood Elf Druids is the one i'd love the most. Think it just makes a lot of sense for them to be Druids.
They have a massive reason to want to become druids right at their frontyard. The Dead Scar isn't gonna heal itself. And considering the entire land of Quel'thalas is magical, plants, animals and people alike, Blood Elves could draw their nature magic from the magic around them in the natural ley lines of the world itself.
This would also add up with the sun magic Druids use, drawing the power from the Sunwell that have poured magic into the land for thousands of years.
The only question marks i have for Blood Elf Druids would be the moon magic and the bear form. The other Druid forms seem obvious, with some debate on if it should be a phoenix or dragonhawk as a flight form, but the bear form being just a bear doesn't sound right to me, yet i don't know another option.
I was surprised you didnt bring Dragonhawks up in blood elf forms, nor even a hint towards the druid of flame forms of spider and scorpion.
I didn't expect to like this video, but I did, & I thank you for making it & entertaining us with such great Warcraft lore & concepts!
I would love Night Elf and Forsaken Paladins. I've always been an advocate that an undead soldier using the light to protect others despite it making him feel discomfort or pain is a pretty badass character and shows the kind of personal sacrifice a paladin is supposed to embody. Plus Night Elf paladins of Elune that pick up arms to defend the new world tree after the burning of Teldrassil would be awesome.
I feel like worgen should get the Elune paladin theme as an option as well. A werewolf paladin serving a mood goddess just sounds awesome. There's a ton of paladin themes that could be made as cool options for our characters.
@@Lockecole81 Right? That would make perfect sense! Plus if Blood knights can be a thing, Moon knights can be one too.
@@CrabCrow There's been a ton of great concepts. Keyboardturn/Simaia and Lost Codex had a great proposal they'd made covering a bunch of themes and types I loved it. It'd be another great layer of customization to be able to pick which cosmic power you want to ally with /represent.
Lol I missed this channel man. Used to watch it a lot during Legion. Glad I got to see 5 seconds of Evitel in the beginning and ad 😂😂
Haven’t played wow in a while. Glad to see you’re still doing well. :)
for blood elve balance I would go the dragonhawk route. something like a high-rez, upright version of the Zul'aman Dragonhawk boss. I personally think that mechagnome druids dont make sense, even after a potential 10.2 explanation. maybe as a later add-on, like: 10.2 gives us gnome druids and some time later some mechagnomes go "you know what, I really like this whole defending nature thing! maybe i can improve those shapes as well!" and they get the classical druid forms, but cyborg-ified. coils for ancles, chainsaws for teeth, that kind of stuff
Hyenas are a lot closer to cats than canines evolutively speaking. And I think the missed mark here is that most of the forms porposed are from inteligent creatures, and the druid thing is not turning to other races, is turning to beasts. There is grey area in the moonkin who are not the brightest but certanly have some form of sapience, but far from saberon level.
7:47 Shamen are the next race being prepared to be universal? I can't wait to play as a Shaman Paladin!
i just want some more unique forms for existing druid classes, i get a big jealous when i see those new high-res kultiran and zandalar forms
Gnomes and Goblins.. yeah, real druidism is cool.. but mechs are 100x cooler and I think wow players generally agree with that.
And to bridge the gap, I think the mechs just need to be very tightly modeled on standard druid forms, as an engineers way to achieve the prowess and capability of said animal forms.
And it has to be said, mech customization is WAY to cool to not do that.
Elekk/Crusher for Draenei bearform? seemed like a no brainer to me.
The best way to pick out forms for most of the races is to look at what is in their starter areas. That's why as others suggested, Dragonhawk for Belf. They have cats prowling around their starting area, too.
Cat form isn't really called cat form, it is feral. So you can cross-pick it from Ferocity hunter pets, and that would work. A there are wolves that would work. And a spider is under the Ferocity category. Warp Stalker is under Cunning but it also fits the Cat/feral concept. Slash, invisible/hiding etc,
My main question is, who gets a platypus as a aquatic travel form? I think that should be a race that seems fun but has a bite.
Can anyone understand what is said at 23:59? "Instead of bear, they have [???]"
It just shows a picture of a Draenei so I am not sure what form is being proposed.
The horde goblins come from tropical islands. Clearly their flight form should be a Parrot. Tank form should be a Pig (with a greased customization). Melee form a snake or scorpion. And Balance form should be a boomkin, but with a grass skirt.
Also, don't sleep on bugs. I think Vulpera and even Undead could have a whole suite of bug forms. And Void elves could draw from some of the silithid models.
i've been wanting blood elf druid for such a long time now, lynx cat form colors and patterns could look so fking cool man
Goblin druids are one of TWO things. They summon mechanical mounts and just sit ontop of it like a mount which would be a laugh OR... OR...
Imagine if it was just oil spill victims.
I really really really want the gnome druids, WITH THE BABYFORMS! So happy u said that!
Goblin Druid: Raptor (Dps), Giant Crab (Tank), Dodo or Toucan like humanoid (Range dps), Lizard/salamander (travel form, something akin to saurolix or the salamanders from Dragon Isles), Octopus covered with golden bracelets/Goblin shark (Swim form), Parrot/Paradise bird covered with bling (Flight form)
Orc Druid: Plains worg (Dps), Clefthoof (Tank), Windroc humanoid (Range Dps), Windroc(Flight form), Talbuk (Travel form), Fungal Shark(Swim form).
Mag'har Druid: Dire Boar (dps), Draenor Riverbeast (Tank), Kaliri humanoid(Range dps), Rylak (Flight Form),
I definitely think looking towards the goblins' tropical side is the key to finding their druid forms. Here are the forms I propose:
Bear: Crab or Gorilla
Cat: Monkey or Raptor
Moonkin: Lasher
Travel (Air): Parrot
Travel (Land): Idk, Raptor again?
Travel (Water): Hammerhead Shark
As a Lightforged Warlock I will be enjoying the butthurtery this will produce. Looking forward to seeing undead, goblin and void druids in the game.
Race/Class combos I'd like to see:
Human Druid and Shaman. There's a lot of roleplaying potential here, and Kul Tirans can already be these things. Shaman totem: A Warcraft 3 human tower with shaman runes.
Dwarf and Dark Iron Druid. This idea already exists in other fantasy IP's, so why not here?
Night Elf Shaman and Paladin. The shaman idea comes from Primalists like Koroleth, and it also fits their feral side. The Paladin has been an idea since Legion, and it would match the warrior- side of the Moon Priestesses. It's something many fans have been asking for. Shaman totem: Something carved out of Ashenvale oak with a glowing moon symbol. Pally mount: A "Lightsaber".
Gnome Shaman and Mechagnome Shaman. They already harness some of the elements in their technology, such as electricity. Shaman totem: Gnomeregan and Mechagon themed conductors.
Draenei and Lightforged Demon Hunter. Since they can already become warlocks and have a connection with Illidan through the Outland and Argus campaigns, it could work.
Worgen Shaman. Same as the night elves. Shaman totem: Something carved out of the trees of the Witchwood, with the mark of Goldrinn.
Void Elf Paladin. They can already become holy priests, there are theories online about "void paladins", and Alliance players really want that "High Elf Paladin", so go for it. Pally mount: "A Light/Void- themed unicorn mount."
Orc and Mag'har Demon Hunter. There's the Legion and Outland connections, so why not? There's already one in Hearthstone.
Forsaken Paladin. It could work because of Calia Menethil, but would require more story to make sense. Pally mount: An undead "Lightcharger".
Highmountain Tauren Paladin. They too believe in An'she, so they could totally become Sunwalkers. Pally mount: A "Sunwalker Moose"
Troll Paladin. There are already Zandalari paladins, thanks to the Loa connection, and there's a Gurubashi paladin who worships Kimbul in Hearthstone, so I'm sure Darkspears could do it too. Pally mount: A Loa- blessed raptor.
Blood Elf, Nightborne, and Pandaren Druid. These combos pretty much write themselves.
This was such a fun video man, well done on like 85% of your picks. Playable arakoa would be so freakn cool and I would actually go back to Boomkin for!
I would add unique race specific Druid forms, for each race like weve seen for the Kul Tiran and Zandalari. Here are my suggestions for the races that can be druids now:
Night Elf (The basest of Druid forms)
Night Saber (Dps) Black Bear (Tank) Moonkin (Ranged Dps) Giant Owl (Flight Form) Stag (Travel Form) Leopard Seal (Swim Form)
Worgen (Tried to go with something Gilneas/werewolf vibe)
Dire Worg (Dps) Wolf/bear beast (Tank) Raven Humanoid (Ranged Dps) Raven (Flight Form) Wolf (Travel Form) Wolf Eel (Swim Form) - similar to the Nazjatar boss but smaller
Darkspear Troll (Heavy Jungle theme here in forms)
Tiger (Dps) Gorilla (Tank) Bat humanoid (Ranged Dps) Bat (Flight Form) Cheetah (Travel Form) Crocolisk (Swim form)
Mulgore Tauren (Forms that are associated with Tauren, Barrens and their beasts)
Lion (Dps) Kodo Beast/Thunder Lizard (Tank) Hawk humanoid with horns (Ranged Dps) Hawk (Flight Form) Zhevra/Plainstrider (Travel Form) Giant Salmon (Swim Form)
Highmountain Tauren (Very native american/canadian bestiary theme)
Puma (Dps) Grizzly Bear (Tank) Eagle Humanoid with antlers(Ranged Dps) Eagle (Flight Form) Moose (Travel form) Giant Beaver (Swim Form)
Each comes with multiple color choices, which can be changed at the barber shop.
As for the Pandaren Druid Bear form.. just let them walk on 4 legs :D
I’ve said this multiple times but the races have literally all been living together for 20+ years now. What’s stopping a goblin from travelling 5 mins up orgrimmar to the Druid trainer to learn how to be a Druid. Or any other race/ class combo
yes give me druids for everything!
I sadly would go the more difficult route and focus a little more on "bear, but with tusks" because I think it's neat seeing the spin on things 🥺
when i was a kid, i had a ton of cool ideas for druid forms for the races that didnt have them (this was back in wrath) and i told my parents about them and they explained to me that it didnt make sense in the lore and races like forsaken dont have a connection with nature and cant be druids… i am glad that someday (hopefully soon) i may get to see some of those childhood dreams realized
Orc druid forms
Boomkin - Arakkoa
Feral cat - saberon
Feral bear - riverbeast or draenor boar
Travel - rylak (flying), draenor wolf/raptor(land)
Shark(aquatic).
Tree form for resto spec as a glyph (botani)
I still wish we would get class race skins idea you had Tali years ago, it was my favorite video idea you ever had, for example light forged draenei would have shadow priest spec reskin to light stuff etc etc, Kultiras priest would have more water based skin priest or shamans I don't remember exactly, it's years since I saw that video :D
Mind you, Arthas's sister is an undead brought back by the light so, technically she can be a paladin :P there, forsaken paladin solved.
I would love to see the pandaren turtle and the rest, I love the idea of pandaren and vulperian druids your ideas are great! Would love to see a serpent fly form but the balance for pandaren doesn’t really fit with the rest however it is still very cool. Great video :)
Human Druid has been my dream since Tbc, I hope for this so much !
Hyenas are actually more closely related to cats than dogs so you're right on the money with that Vulpera cat form, Tali!
When Ion was mentioned to need a reason in game/lore before giving a race a new class. Shadowlands was the ultimate excuse, The orc that went to ardenweald and bonded with the Winter Queen is now a druid; The undead that went Kyrian, and freed the Naaru, now carries the light; The Lightforge that experienced Maldraxxus and start to ponder the true nature of everything is now a druid from mastering the constructs. etc... etc... The Goblin that saw the maw and help Kirim and modified the protoform forge (miniturization of the protoform forge to effectively give them selves animal forms) like Bear form :Moneymental-turns into a living treasure(the ultimate defense is having a lot of money); cat form: Jani(the Loa of trash have granted this form to the goblins-"Never have I seen another creature that love trash as much as I do, Look at their inventions"; Boomkin: Faeries-(Memory of Lady Moonberries' prank).
I've been waiting for more Druid race options to play them and the day Druid options open up to everyone is the day I go boomkin and never look back
Loved the video! I'm sure that Blizzard have already thought about the potential to sell druid skins on the Trader's Post in the future, and by expanding the classes that can use them they'll sell more tokens etc. So yeah I think it'll happen, and I cannot wait tbh!
I've always loved the idea that the undead burn while being priests constantly and that misery is how they function.
I suspect the Dragonhawk maybe part of the Belf druid. Also Human druid may get a new if classic bear model, maybe a grizzly or something to show their origins from Northrend. I also see wolf/worgs as the Orc cat form, it just fits too well and would be easy to spot in PvP. But ultimately I don't see Blizz created too many new models for expanded Druid races. They will probably recycle many older models (perhaps uprezed) and just use that. But I also suspect the coming all races can become druids will be a slow roll out. Meaning Blizz will want to test and show the community first and see the reaction before committing to each new race forms. So some races will be available in Dragonflight with others coming in later patches and xpacs.
4:40 I saw that horn option and realizing I could potentially be a draenei warlock with the horns sawed off like Hellboy has me *sold.*
I have been waiting for gnome druids since lich king. way back then, we were talking (and joking) about teddy bear form, kitten form, gold fish, fawn, and hummingbird travel forms, shrubbery heals, and baby owl boomie. I want them.... so much.
Haha, what a Great job on this video guys! It's been a while since I've even cracked open Retail as its been Classic all the time for me lately but maybe it's time to give it another look 😊 Tali does make it sound exciting 😂
I'm glad you didn't suggest mech forms for the gnomes/goblins. I'm still on the hopium train for Tinkers at some point.
Undead shamans with tombstone totems been saying it for many years 😂
I think the most realistic option for Goblin Druids is them handing Hamuul a crisp 20 for some quick lessons