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It's not just the phone call; it's the context that call is set in, its timing and temporal relationship with text messages from Schiller, etc. This is why even the prosecution apologists in the media are calling it a cross examination bombshell, which the defense has been rather slow in getting out of the gate. But the race is not always to the swift...
@@-danR Cohen might have overstated his "certainty" as to the date he told Trump about him having "fixed' the Stormy Daniels problem, but come on man...there is a LOT of other evidence that Trump was in the know. So Cohen got the date mixed up? He only talked to Trump a few dozen times during the latter part of October before the election in 2016. So yeah, is it possible that Cohen got the *exact* date of the conversation wrong? Sure. But do I doubt it that, in the big picture of then ENTIRE set of events that surrounded this scandal and the cover-up leading up to (and following) the election? Not one bit.
So irritating the misdirection on CNN. The corroboration of Cohen comes in an affidavit from Trump in another case in CA. 'I paid money to Cohen for Miss Daniels'
You fallen for the trap of CNN and MSNBC They’ve convinced you that it’s evidence Trump paid for an NDA… When in fact, it’s no evidence at all because it’s not a crime Congratulations, you’re gullible and dim witted
Payment of the NDA is not illegal and that is not what Trump is being charged with. The prosecution has not proved that Trump ordered his business records to be misleading (technically they are not really misleading anyway).
Another shameless dumpf supporter. They can criticize Cohen all they want but who did he do it for? The biggest lying, con man president that there ever was. In their quest to remain neutral CNN has too many shameless lying clowns in on their discussions.
At minimum it calls into question it’s reliability and when that call forms the basis of your case, you can’t get to beyond reasonable doubt without having 100% faith in the content of that call
@@richardmills6669 it’s one minor part of the case evidence. He recalls telling trump it’s done. Huge amount of evidence showing trump had the encounter with Daniel’s, and had his team try to cover it up to effect public perception of him coming into his bid to be elected.
@@susieb7305BS. First off Cohen texts Schiller before the call asking to talk about the harassing issue he was receiving, nothing about talking to Trump or if Trump was even with Schiller. Cohen didn’t call Trump (although he had Trump’s numbers). The text messages right after the call only mention the harassing issue, nothing else. If Cohen had to explain to Schiller about the harassment situation and what could be done about it, that could easily eat up all the short phone call time. I think it is a real stretch to think Cohen called Schiller, explained the situation to Schiller got Schiller’s response, then asked Schiller to get Trump, waited for Trump to come to the phone and give Trump his message all in a minute and a half.
Remember this entire case is based on a crime of how it was reported on financial statements. The checks mean nothing more than a lawyer was reimbursed for services. It's not illegal to pay for an NDA with a pornstar, the only thread they have is that is was for the SOLE purpose of election fraud, that means it had 0% to do with protecting his reputation, his relationship with his wife, or his other business dealings. In order for the charges to stick, he had to have no other motive than how it would impact the election. Every other fact in this case is misdirection if it doesn't provide clarity to that fact.
Tim Palatori is totally unbelievable. I would not want him defending me. "Ultimately" his arguments are not compelling. It’s not even clear he understands the statute and what is needed to convict for this particular case.
Of course they have turbo. New York Penal Law § 175.10 stepped up to a felony from a misdemeanor under § 175.05. He’s also charged under New York Election Law § 17-152. There are very specific rules in NY regarding what is required to prove reasonable doubt under these statues in NY that involve Supreme Court rulings.
Has the prosecution brought in any expert witnesses as to how the Trump accountants should have booked Cohen's legal fees? No! There is huge doubt that the accounting was in fact fraudulent. Give some of the specifics of NY Election Law 17-152. The prosecution has only intimated that Trump violated federal campaign finance laws and has not provided specifics. (NDAs and hush money are legal). NY's jurisdiction over federal laws has to be tenuous.
documents back up cohen. this is a criminal trial so "beyond a reasonable doubt" is the standard. (defense has yet to put forth its "story" of how to interpret this. *_so we'll all have to wait to learn what their alternative explanation of this might be.)_*
@@Lovefury455 Access Hollywood ... so "his image" of sexual assault - which literally every witness and email says was the problem of "his image" BECAUSE CAMPAIGN
Conway is probably correct. Palatore strikes me, after 46 years of practicing commercial litigation, to be a pompous butt who really doesn’t know what he’s talking about, but believes that the law is that which is boldly asserted and plausibly maintained. something my father and I laughed about when I first heard it 50 years ago.
This disputed Oct 26 evening phone call is much ado about nothing. It does NOT matter if Cohen was wrong about what was discussed on this 1 call. As long as Trump admits that he did authorize Cohen to pay Daniels and get her to sign the NDA. Whether this happened on Oct 25, 26, 27 or 28 doesn't matter. Whether Trump said this to Cohen in person or over the phone doesn't matter. As long as Trump admits it did happen.
The defense needs to stall into the 3 day weekend in hopes that this will be the jury's last (and lasting) impression of the testimony. It only takes one Juror to screw this whole thing up.
The prosecution still has the ability to question Cohen on redirect on Monday. They will get the last word not Trump. And, if the defense has no witnesses, it will go straight to summations, and, then the jury.
The documents speak for themselves and are the EVIDENCE in this case. He said - she said from a phone call of less than 2 minutes in 2016 is pointless. Who cares ? Producing legitimate EVIDENCE is what the jury wants in order to make a decision. And Trump will lose.
Doesn't look like Trump is going to lose this one, and in the bigger picture he's looking way more likely to take the presidential race. So this trial's failing in it's overall purpose anyway.
I think it sounds like his credibility was damaged, but without seeing it live it’s hard to say how much that landed with the jury. I agree that a meandering follow-up plays into the prosecution’s interests, but if the jury is looking for reasonable doubt and there’s no other corroboration (about which I am unsure) then, yeah, sadly I think this might be it. Fucking hell.
Agreed. The witnesses are well educated if they live on the island of Manhattan. It’s only dumbasses, the Csuite, and realtors (interest rates) who buy Trumps crap at this point
How long does it take Cohen to tell Trump on the phone "boss, I took care of the problem". Also criminals don't usually talk long on the phone about crimes for fear of being phone tapped. Lawyer Barbara McQuade makes the same point here th-cam.com/video/_D5gFlozIDA/w-d-xo.html
Do you even know what the crime is they're accusing him of? That phone call had to have a lot more information in it than that to even move the needle.
Defense just has to show doubt in just one material fact in the case. If that fact is in doubt, you have achieved reasonable doubt and you must acquit. Kind like OJ. That sowed doubt that gloves didn't fit....hence you had reasonable doubt in material fact or a piece of evidence. Even if everything else is true, you would have acquit. The person must guilt beyond all possible reasonable doubt in the case. Reasonable doubt extends to any and all evidence and testimony in the case. Beyond a Reasonable Doubt is very very high standard in case and does get the credit iit deserves most of the time. The jury just can't think Trump is guilty. The jury just can't think Trump is very guilty. The Jury must know that Trump is guilty. The jury must be sure and the evidence and testimony must show that.
That why trials are so mudane in the introduction of evidence and testimony. The prosecution has to include everything in insure that all possible angles have been covered. Any doubt in any piece of evidence or testimony will show reasonable doubt resulting in an acquital.
The exact specific call in which Trump was informed is not a material fact. Showing that Cohen's identified call as to when it happened (also) had a plausibly different topic does not show he was not also informed at that time, or some other time. Clearly, Trump tasked Cohen to 'handle it' and Cohen told Trump he was already talking to Alan (Weisselberg) how to structure it. Trump's silence at that point was his assent.
It just seems that the defense did what was expected, namely go after Cohen's character. With that said I think all would agree juries cannot be predicted, and the defense did not deliver a knockout blow. So the trial goes on.
Guilty of what? What crime is he actually being accused of? Those papers are proof of an NDA with a pornstar, which is not illegal. It's all about the bookkeeping where the fees were recorded. In this case legal fees to a lawyer. The prosecution needs an articulable crime of election fraud which requires that those payments were for the sole purpose of election fraud, nothing to do with protecting his family, embarrassment, business relationships, or any number of other reasons you wouldn't want the story coming out in the tabloids.
Prosecution should point out that Cohen talked to Trump many times in the days before and days after about the Stormy Daniels situation so this one call could have been very short like they got the check. Cohen said that he was in constant communication with Trump usually more than once a day.
Seems like there would be more overwhelming lots of phone calls and recordings then. Wouldn't the prosecution offer up the strongest they had? This phone call is the strongest they have or something more would be there. It's just a very weak smoking gun.
Of what. There is tons of evidence of trump and team fraudulently fudging business payments in furtherance for another crime like election interference.
are you saying NY doesn't have laws about biz record fraud? or that there's "zero evidence" that trump committed biz record fraud? (we all know you won't respond substantively ... bc you can't.)
Please. CNN has been in the tank for trump for years. So many in the media are. Funny we only find out now that those bastions of independent journalism- Haberman, Cuomo, Tur were all working with trump behind the scenes for years. Complete lack of journalistic integrity
I agree with George.
He’s obviously wrong. You agree with him only because you hope he’s right
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I guess we’ll find out next week. Hide and watch! 😉
George is the best.
Picking at small events on the edges of the truth doesn't change what happened.
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Sliceing and dicing a phone call from 2016 is very thin gruel.
It's not just the phone call; it's the context that call is set in, its timing and temporal relationship with text messages from Schiller, etc. This is why even the prosecution apologists in the media are calling it a cross examination bombshell, which the defense has been rather slow in getting out of the gate. But the race is not always to the swift...
@@-danR Cohen might have overstated his "certainty" as to the date he told Trump about him having "fixed' the Stormy Daniels problem, but come on man...there is a LOT of other evidence that Trump was in the know. So Cohen got the date mixed up? He only talked to Trump a few dozen times during the latter part of October before the election in 2016. So yeah, is it possible that Cohen got the *exact* date of the conversation wrong? Sure. But do I doubt it that, in the big picture of then ENTIRE set of events that surrounded this scandal and the cover-up leading up to (and following) the election? Not one bit.
Phone call or not its moot. There is no crime/case to begin with. Its all theatre and its interferring with Trump campaigning.
Relying on a disbarred serial perjurer and hooker is very thin gruel.
So irritating the misdirection on CNN. The corroboration of Cohen comes in an affidavit from Trump in another case in CA. 'I paid money to Cohen for Miss Daniels'
Prosecution has not proved payment is a crime.
You fallen for the trap of CNN and MSNBC
They’ve convinced you that it’s evidence Trump paid for an NDA… When in fact, it’s no evidence at all because it’s not a crime
Congratulations, you’re gullible and dim witted
Payment of the NDA is not illegal and that is not what Trump is being charged with. The prosecution has not proved that Trump ordered his business records to be misleading (technically they are not really misleading anyway).
George you got it!
Parlatore is a guy who cannot EVER admit he is wrong. Pathetic
Another shameless dumpf supporter. They can criticize Cohen all they want but who did he do it for? The biggest lying, con man president that there ever was.
In their quest to remain neutral CNN has too many shameless lying clowns in on their discussions.
Hahah he’s 100% correct. George and you are morons
Difference between lying and getting recollections wrong. Doesn’t change his recollection in a call.
At minimum it calls into question it’s reliability and when that call forms the basis of your case, you can’t get to beyond reasonable doubt without having 100% faith in the content of that call
@@richardmills6669 it’s one minor part of the case evidence. He recalls telling trump it’s done. Huge amount of evidence showing trump had the encounter with Daniel’s, and had his team try to cover it up to effect public perception of him coming into his bid to be elected.
The ex Attorney’P’ is biased.
he is. (parlatore has sometimes flat out lied in previous CNN segments - all gone unrefuted ... bc CNN)
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Yup. If George Conway hadn’t been in the thumbnail, I would have kept scrolling.
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You're right George. 96 seconds is a very long period of time.
If someone were asked to sit still for 96 seconds they would realize how long it might seem. In the words "It's done boss" takes 3 seconds to say.
@@susieb7305BS. First off Cohen texts Schiller before the call asking to talk about the harassing issue he was receiving, nothing about talking to Trump or if Trump was even with Schiller. Cohen didn’t call Trump (although he had Trump’s numbers). The text messages right after the call only mention the harassing issue, nothing else. If Cohen had to explain to Schiller about the harassment situation and what could be done about it, that could easily eat up all the short phone call time. I think it is a real stretch to think Cohen called Schiller, explained the situation to Schiller got Schiller’s response, then asked Schiller to get Trump, waited for Trump to come to the phone and give Trump his message all in a minute and a half.
The trial they describe on CNN and the trial they describe on Fox appear to not be the same trial -but, it is!
Does all this mean anything when donald trump signed all of the checks. Month after month.
Remember this entire case is based on a crime of how it was reported on financial statements. The checks mean nothing more than a lawyer was reimbursed for services. It's not illegal to pay for an NDA with a pornstar, the only thread they have is that is was for the SOLE purpose of election fraud, that means it had 0% to do with protecting his reputation, his relationship with his wife, or his other business dealings. In order for the charges to stick, he had to have no other motive than how it would impact the election. Every other fact in this case is misdirection if it doesn't provide clarity to that fact.
Tim Palatori is totally unbelievable. I would not want him defending me. "Ultimately" his arguments are not compelling. It’s not even clear he understands the statute and what is needed to convict for this particular case.
Tim does not understand the statute as the prosecution has not stated the statute under which Trump is charged.
Of course they have turbo. New York Penal Law § 175.10 stepped up to a felony from a misdemeanor under § 175.05. He’s also charged under New York Election Law § 17-152. There are very specific rules in NY regarding what is required to prove reasonable doubt under these statues in NY that involve Supreme Court rulings.
Has the prosecution brought in any expert witnesses as to how the Trump accountants should have booked Cohen's legal fees? No! There is huge doubt that the accounting was in fact fraudulent.
Give some of the specifics of NY Election Law 17-152. The prosecution has only intimated that Trump violated federal campaign finance laws and has not provided specifics. (NDAs and hush money are legal). NY's jurisdiction over federal laws has to be tenuous.
We've known this story for years. It's clear what happened. This is all unnecessary.
well, in US this *_is_* all necessary for adjudication.
maybe gfy for your take bc YOU are how lynch mobs happen.
but Cohen not the only witness.... it is a 'preponderance" of evidence....right?
its proof beyond a reasonable doubt in the criminal context; higher BOP.
documents back up cohen.
this is a criminal trial so "beyond a reasonable doubt" is the standard.
(defense has yet to put forth its "story" of how to interpret this. *_so we'll all have to wait to learn what their alternative explanation of this might be.)_*
Do the documents back cohen?
@@op3129 The alternative is simple he paid the money to protect his image and his family.
@@Lovefury455 Access Hollywood ... so "his image" of sexual assault - which literally every witness and email says was the problem of "his image" BECAUSE CAMPAIGN
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I agree that the phone call issue could be seen as reasonable doubt especially by a wavering juror
Conway is probably correct. Palatore strikes me, after 46 years of practicing commercial litigation, to be a pompous butt who really doesn’t know what he’s talking about, but believes that the law is that which is boldly asserted and plausibly maintained. something my father and I laughed about when I first heard it 50 years ago.
Exactly. Well put
Its hard to defend the indefensible.
This disputed Oct 26 evening phone call is much ado about nothing.
It does NOT matter if Cohen was wrong about what was discussed on this 1 call.
As long as Trump admits that he did authorize Cohen to pay Daniels and get her
to sign the NDA.
Whether this happened on Oct 25, 26, 27 or 28 doesn't matter. Whether Trump
said this to Cohen in person or over the phone doesn't matter.
As long as Trump admits it did happen.
Costello is scheduled for Monday. It's over Georgie!🤣
OT but:
parlatore has gained serious weight in last 6 months.
that's not healthy
How much of the cross actually related to the case? The reports seem to say not much.
To discredit cohen
The defense needs to stall into the 3 day weekend in hopes that this will be the jury's last (and lasting) impression of the testimony. It only takes one Juror to screw this whole thing up.
They are off for 3 days
@@lovly2cu725prosecutors get Cohen again for Monday, duh
The prosecution still has the ability to question Cohen on redirect on Monday. They will get the last word not Trump. And, if the defense has no witnesses, it will go straight to summations, and, then the jury.
What did you have for lunch last Tuesday?
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Geez, George is stretching.
Will the defense team call any witnesses?
The documents speak for themselves and are the EVIDENCE in this case. He said - she said from a phone call of less than 2 minutes in 2016 is pointless. Who cares ? Producing legitimate EVIDENCE is what the jury wants in order to make a decision. And Trump will lose.
Doesn't look like Trump is going to lose this one, and in the bigger picture he's looking way more likely to take the presidential race. So this trial's failing in it's overall purpose anyway.
I think it sounds like his credibility was damaged, but without seeing it live it’s hard to say how much that landed with the jury. I agree that a meandering follow-up plays into the prosecution’s interests, but if the jury is looking for reasonable doubt and there’s no other corroboration (about which I am unsure) then, yeah, sadly I think this might be it. Fucking hell.
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Oh, it was a 90 second phone call. In 90 seconds you can talk about more than two things. Clean up what? Lol
Unless the defense can bring forth witnesses who can offer an alternative story, the jurors are likely to believe the prosecution’s case.
Agreed. The witnesses are well educated if they live on the island of Manhattan. It’s only dumbasses, the Csuite, and realtors (interest rates) who buy Trumps crap at this point
When is the last time George Conway was correct in any of his Onversations. Who Owns Him.
He needs a seeing eye dog because he's blinded by TDS.
Biden uses Executive privilege say it isnt so lol. What happened to transparency? Trump wasnt allowed to use Executive privilege.
George know it's over a lier will always lie and that was your star witness 😂😂😂😂😂😂
How long does it take Cohen to tell Trump on the phone "boss, I took care of the problem". Also criminals don't usually talk long on the phone about crimes for fear of being phone tapped. Lawyer Barbara McQuade makes the same point here th-cam.com/video/_D5gFlozIDA/w-d-xo.html
Do you even know what the crime is they're accusing him of? That phone call had to have a lot more information in it than that to even move the needle.
Parlatore continues to think as a defense attorney for Trump, instead of really evaluating the evidence.
On one side a Trump flunkie. On the other side, a real legal scholar and lawyer.
The T.D.S. is strong here
That’s when you get your daily programming from Cheeto-in-chief.
Have an original thought sometime.
Who cares what Conway thinks?
I do, and many others. No one, on the other hand, cares what you think.
Pinoy pride! George Conway!
“ JUST DO IT “ is the key word from Trump for Michael Cohen. Loyalty for dictator Trump. So disgusting.
paying a NDA IS NOT A CRIME!!you have no clue what you are talking about
Defense just has to show doubt in just one material fact in the case. If that fact is in doubt, you have achieved reasonable doubt and you must acquit. Kind like OJ. That sowed doubt that gloves didn't fit....hence you had reasonable doubt in material fact or a piece of evidence. Even if everything else is true, you would have acquit. The person must guilt beyond all possible reasonable doubt in the case. Reasonable doubt extends to any and all evidence and testimony in the case. Beyond a Reasonable Doubt is very very high standard in case and does get the credit iit deserves most of the time. The jury just can't think Trump is guilty. The jury just can't think Trump is very guilty. The Jury must know that Trump is guilty. The jury must be sure and the evidence and testimony must show that.
That why trials are so mudane in the introduction of evidence and testimony. The prosecution has to include everything in insure that all possible angles have been covered. Any doubt in any piece of evidence or testimony will show reasonable doubt resulting in an acquital.
The exact specific call in which Trump was informed is not a material fact. Showing that Cohen's identified call as to when it happened (also) had a plausibly different topic does not show he was not also informed at that time, or some other time.
Clearly, Trump tasked Cohen to 'handle it' and Cohen told Trump he was already talking to Alan (Weisselberg) how to structure it. Trump's silence at that point was his assent.
It just seems that the defense did what was expected, namely go after Cohen's character. With that said I think all would agree juries cannot be predicted, and the defense did not deliver a knockout blow. So the trial goes on.
No mater of the credibility of Cohen, all evidences and all the papers are there for the proof. He will be guilty.
Guilty of what? Time will tell.
lol!!guilty of what ,trump paid out of his own pocket and not campaign dollars ,no crime at all
Guilty of what? What crime is he actually being accused of? Those papers are proof of an NDA with a pornstar, which is not illegal. It's all about the bookkeeping where the fees were recorded. In this case legal fees to a lawyer. The prosecution needs an articulable crime of election fraud which requires that those payments were for the sole purpose of election fraud, nothing to do with protecting his family, embarrassment, business relationships, or any number of other reasons you wouldn't want the story coming out in the tabloids.
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Amen! Trump will be very secure in jail - leave the peace and prosperity to Joe...
George Conway's two biggest enemies are jealousy and jelly donuts.
So what's Parlatore's? Hubris and the whole donut truck?
Prosecution should point out that Cohen talked to Trump many times in the days before and days after about the Stormy Daniels situation so this one call could have been very short like they got the check. Cohen said that he was in constant communication with Trump usually more than once a day.
Seems like there would be more overwhelming lots of phone calls and recordings then. Wouldn't the prosecution offer up the strongest they had? This phone call is the strongest they have or something more would be there. It's just a very weak smoking gun.
A paid Liar is the main witness for the DA. Nice.
Mr. Kellyanne is so blinded by his hatred for Trump he just can't admit Cohen got his ass handed to him.
There's zero evidence.....
Of what. There is tons of evidence of trump and team fraudulently fudging business payments in furtherance for another crime like election interference.
Uh huh, sure Jan
are you saying NY doesn't have laws about biz record fraud?
or that there's "zero evidence" that trump committed biz record fraud?
(we all know you won't respond substantively ... bc you can't.)
Except for the buckets of it. Read the transcripts. Otherwise people might laugh at your posts.
I read them
Evan Jake isn’t buying Conway’s bullshit here lol
Nope. Conway is pretty clear.
Please. CNN has been in the tank for trump for years. So many in the media are. Funny we only find out now that those bastions of independent journalism- Haberman, Cuomo, Tur were all working with trump behind the scenes for years. Complete lack of journalistic integrity
Whose did you buy?