PANASONIC LUMIX FZ2500 FZ2000: SHOULD I UPGRADE? UNBOXING MY NEW point and shoot
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You decide!
I will make this post short and sweet by covering the differences between the two and then talking about whos workflow will benefit from the upgrade. Plain and simple. To know about what the predecessor of the FZ2500 can do press this button and find out
Spoiler alert. I bought the FZ2500
I myself chose the FZ2500 for video production reasons. Panasonic themselves said that the FZ2500 was basically an all-in-one GH4. It will, most likely serve as my B-cam but will also come in handy as a high end scouting cam, a vlogging camera (when my muscles are up to selfie stick task) and, as crazy as it may seem, as a Sometimes A-cam.
What has Panasonic added?
Here is a quick list of the big advancements. Depending on your workflow and what you do, some might be more important to you than others
What the FZ2500/2000 now offers that the FZ1000 did not offer
Touchscreen
More telephoto reach
Headphone jack
Integrated ND filters
Faster jpeg shooting
Side lens function buttons
better tripod mount screw placement
Better memory card placement
Dual adjustment rings on the lens
Higher touchscreen resolution
Upgradable in-camera log codecs
Conclusion form an avid FZ1000 fan
If you are looking for a stills upgrade, you might even be a tad disappointed by this new release, as its predecessor was already state of the art. You are not gaining that much. Some of the stills improvements are post focus capabilities, focus stacking, and a slightly quicker burst rate in JPEG mode. You also get a greater zoom range (From 24-400mm on the FZ1000 to 24-480mm on the FZ2500/2000). But you also lose a couple of things like overall compactness and light weight. Although the FZ1000 was not the lightest or the smallest of cameras, the FZ2500 takes on both girth and weight. These are the symptoms of adding so many amazing video features to this camera. Other advantages of the FZ1000 is that you get fantastic photo and pretty amazing video features for a quickly plummeting price.
Most of the advantages of upgrading to the FZ2500/2000 involve video capabilities. Like new amazing strides in 1080p bit depth, 4-2-2 8 bit and 10bit output on HDMI for external recorders and unlimited recording time when recording internally. There is now an ND filter with 4 steps 1/4, 1/16 and 1/64 and auto. All huge improvements for anyone working on a video workflow.
Ergonomic strides are small but cool for both stills and video makers alike. The battery door has been pushed away from the tripod mount screw, memory card access is on the side, and no less than 3 assignable function buttons have been placed on the side of the lens. Now manual rings are dual and assignable.
What you should chose
Sometimes the answer to a question is shorter than you think. With this upgrade this is the case.
With my video workflow, the choice is simple. Upgrade the FZ2500/2000 now! For those in the stills department, I would have to tell you to strongly consider saving some money and opting for the FZ1000
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Great unboxing. I'm looking forward to seeing your upcoming videos covering this camera.
Thanks. Just put one up on the sample footage. Check it out on my channel
Wow so excited for you !
I just got mine the other day and so far I'm loving it. Looking forward to seeing your samples. I'll be shooting with this and the G85 moving forward.
Cool.
Did you expect it to be so big?
The Movingicon No, actually I didn't. With the lens extended its like a big camcorder. For my use, it's no problem. The G85 is a much smaller and lighter package.
Uuuu! Can't wait to see what it can do in comparison with the FZ1000! Please outpoint the low light capability differences compared to FZ1000. I'm all eyes and ears pointed to you :)
I will. I am filming the same cabaret as last year with the FZ2500 instead of the FZ1000. Check this video out to see how the FZ1000 did. th-cam.com/video/SUrc--4mtXM/w-d-xo.html
Get back to you guys soon on the new camera
Nice job! Thanks! Keep going. I have traded in my SONY a6000 & 18-200 zoom and ordered this one. More tips will help! :-)
I shall post soon
Nice! Can't wait for the test footage.
Filming literally all next week. In low light, and normal light. I will, by default, be filming in every situation
Evan Tigernaut Same :)
could you also share the battery life test in a few filming modes?
Will do
Bought this camera. I do hope this is accurate, mine filmed in Cin4K for 47 mins and the battery indicator didn't even move from tree dots. Looks good so far.
Start watching from 5:30 to save the trouble!
What trouble. . .hehe!
Unwrapping and chatting is terribly boring and time wasting. ;)
I agree. Why do people like these unboxing videos?
Because they are bored and ready to watch anything after re-watching their old porn.
Hehe!
Hey Jacques - there has been some internet back and forth over whether the US version FZ2500 has a threaded barrel for adding on lens filters. Can you please confirm whether or not this is the case?
I believe that it has a threaded barrel. A real crappy lens cap that does not grip onto the lens but I will talk about that in my full review soon. If I do not write back, it is because it indeed has a threaded barrel. If I do, it is to confirm that it does not. How does that sound?
Thanks for the quick reply. Sounds good....appreciate it.
Thanks for the good introduction of the FZ2500 +Jacques Gaines.
Looking forward to your full review and sample footage..
Got mine last week, loving it. Upgraded from Sony A5100 aiming to use FZ2000 (that's the model's name in Europe) as my main video device. I'm extremely happy there's really no 29.59 mins limit here in EU, wouldn't believe it until I could do my own test - yes, it's a no limit video recording. Of course, no overheating, worked like a charm.
Now I'm looking for another Panasonic that films in same formats, to use it as second camera. I believe it'll save me time in editing & color correcting/grading. My main intention is to film interviews for clients, where the talent is filmed with the FZ2000 and the interviewer with the other camera. The latter will be seen in some 10% of the video so I guess I shouldn't be getting another FZ2000, too expensive solution, and I'm also thinking about portability while travelling etc.
Will look up on the internet but if Jacques or any of the commenters could recommend another Panasonic, it would be appreciated.
I believe the new LX10/15 will be right up your alley
The Movingicon thanks very much, will be checking it out
Not that anyone's dying to hear, but I've got me aGX8 in the end. Got it for ca 700 USD here in Sweden (with the 14-42 kit) which was some 30% off, crazy, had to grab it :-)
Amazing price and a good move IMHO
The Movingicon Thanks, your opinion can never be humble, yr a PRO :-)
can you test this for me,give before you take a picture in the menu a
number like 260,and the the camera wil be taking pictures
like,260/1--260/2-260/3***260/4.thanks
i have the fz1000,but you can not gife a specifiec nr to a picture.
Hey man! Nice video! I was wondering, can this beast zoom in anyway while filming without the image getting darker? Like, an optical zoom or something? :) I would very much appreciate some help. Thanks! :)
Optical zoom is there but aperture closes in
There are other things that a stills photographer might appreciate which you don't mention like 1 stop more of dynamic range, better colour depth and much better AF tracking. These are actually quite good reasons to upgrade from the FZ1000 for stills shooting also.
Looks like a great bridge camera
It is a great all around camera too
On the FZ1000 the sound was not in the ois. It was in the zooming motor.
Mr. Gaines, if you could please help with a question I can't find the answer to anywhere. I just got a FZ2500 and I am confused by the manual zoom ring on the lens. Every other lens I have had you turn the ring 1/4 to maybe 1/2 to go through the whole zoom range. On this camera you have to turn the ring 360 degrees about three times! The zoom also often starts delayed. As a still photographer I don't like using the zoom switch on the shutter. Can this zoom ring on the lens be adjusted? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
It is a focus by wire system. Not a big fan of focus by wire. Go to the settings. I believe you can change zoom and focus speed and even direction.
Thank you for taking the time to respond. this was the critical piece of information I needed. Unfortunately there is no setting to adjust the speed of the zoom ring, only step it. I am sure a slow zoom is fine for video work but will never cut it for the still photography I do. Too bad but I'll have to return it and spring for a full DSLR which I was hoping to not have to do. Thanks again and keep up the good work, I really enjoy the videos.
is that price before or after taxes? I ask because over here in Britain it costs £1099 including VAT (about $1339).
Impressive camera tho :)
Canadian dollars before taxes. The Canadian dollar suffered from an almost 75 cent equivalence because of dropping oil prices. My prices are not the greatest reference. We fluctuate way more than Europe.
A lot of the physical upgrades compared to the FZ1000 are mostly there for convenience. They are useful dont get me wrong but if you look at them and say I dont necessarily need that, you'll probably be fine with the FZ1000 instead of the FZ2500. I'm also reading mixed things about the lens. From what I can tell it uses an internal zooming mechanism. That is useful if you want your camera to be more balanced when its in a rig of some sort and you still want to zoom in and out but the problem is when using it normally, you have the lens protruding out. Correct me if im wrong but it seems like you cant turn this off and have a normal Zooming system. Its not a huge breaking point but it seems like it can be annoying. I think a lot of people can be happy paying almost half the price for the old model compared to this one but the new convenience features can somewhat justify the higher price. Also if you want built in ND Filters or want to record in V-Log you really have no other choice but to get the FZ2500 instead of the FZ1000. Remember thought the Log upgrade will cost you more than just the base camera.
I get your points. I am slowly not liking the zoom popping out as much as I thought. Also, your rig argument makes sense but the focus mechanism still moves inside and will make any gimbal rig go off balance anyway because within that extended tube parts move around. After looking at my stills in low light I (I will do a video on this) I realize the camera is not even a stills upgrade. Video is truly blowing my mind though. Truly a huge step up. Low light is phenomenal
whit this camera ( FZ2000 o 2500) it is possible to do a film: it has the 4K cine, exit 4.2.2 via hdmt etc. it is very good
Yes but it falls short in the optics. The lens is just OK
When is somebody going to do a video on the FZ2500 for doing stills and video of ball sports, particularly burst or continuous shooting of stills?
+007Stalled 7
Unfortunately, I do not do fast sports action. But you will find that, although all the features are there, the camera is not ideal for stills overall. Watch my review on it in my FZ2500 playlist. Hope this helps
Thanks George. There don't seem to be many vids on fast sports action for any cameras. I was just hoping that someone might have seen something and mention it here.
Salut Jacques et merci pour ce bon tuto. J'ai juste besoin d'une information pour aboutir à la création d'une vidéo full hd ou Uhd directement par mon fz 2000. J'arrive bien à lire la séquence en mode lecture, mais impossible d'avoir la fonction "create vidéo" à la fin du timelapse ? Y a t'il un minimum d'images, j'ai fait un test avec 30 vues. Merci Dans 15 jrs à Montréal en famille.
Je crois qu'avec 30 images, il se peut que la caméra décide que ce n'est pas assez pour faire une vidéo. Même pour toi c'est n'est pas assez, car 30 prises égale seulement une seconde de timelapse. Ce sera peut-être une bonne idée de fixer un timelapse que dure environ 4 à 10 secondes. Alors 4X30 = 120 prises.
Oui, merci de m'avoir répondu, j'ai essayé 150 images jpeg parce-que je me disais que c'était trop court. Avec 150 photos jpeg même problème, j'arrive à lire la séquence mais pas de création de vidéo fhd ou 4k.. Je continue les recherches. Bonne journée Ici à Lille 35 °
Which tripod u using
For this video?
Panasonic lumix fz10002 is coming out this month! 📷👌
Yes, but there is nothing of any note to warrant buying it.
@@Only_Fools_and_Audits I'm getting the Lumix FZ330 now. Has wifi touch screen better viewfinder and f2.8 aperture all round. All for £300 🙂📷👍
@@AmeyHope40702Maisie The quality of the 330 stills is very poor. I'd get a secondhand 1000 instead.
I agree. Lots of bells and whistles on the 330 but with a minuscule sensor as well
@@Only_Fools_and_Audits I went to look at the FZ330 yesterday and was actually impressed with the view finder, touch screen, wifi and it has f2.8 through out. Ive managed to get one on eBay for only £300. Saving of over £100. FZ330 is a bigger upgrade from my Lumix FZ200 which is also a good bridge camera :-)I will let you know my thoughts on FZ330 when i receive it :-)
You didn't mention that the image stabilization is better than the fz1000 for stills and that is quite a big point. Maybe you should do a little more homework before posting next time.
Wtf type pretentious comment is this. Why would you write this. What point does this negative bs serve?
In my opinion the panasonic fz 2500, fz 2000 makes great quality photos, you can see in these videos. th-cam.com/video/AyK72kFLGoU/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/MQz3BhPq_Y4/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/108lfA89wZM/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/21q6wNJJRuw/w-d-xo.html
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disagree I don't think most people want a video camera that shoots stills, that's why the rx10iii is the top camera in this market, if Panasonic had given this 600mm lens, better still quality with excellent video and cheaper than the Sony sales would have gone through the roof but not with this, only video people would want this camera so they've lost a good opportunity to beat Sony
+peter thomas
Could not agree with you more. Been using it the last months and my review adresses these exact points
+The Movingicon This is the one segment of the camera market that is severely lacking in options unfortunately which is why the Sony is still ridiculously expensive. sorry if I misunderstood but you Sony hasn't been on the ball, imo it's Panasonic that have missed it 😁
The Movingicon also how did you find the iq for stills? many have said not as good as the fz1000
Extremely disappointing. I have been writing the text for the review and the general conclusion for me is that it is indeed a video camera with a DSLR form factor. Its still capacities are heightened by the gadgetry of 4k photo, post focus, focus stacking etc. But for photo performance, optical quality, and sensor performance it is super disappointing. Diffraction at small apertures is appalling and opened up, the images are mushy. All cameras are only as good as the lens is and this lens is the perfect example of Leica making a mistake in putting its name on it. As excited I was for this camera, I find myself saying "Just bought myself a camcorder that can take stills to get me out of a bind". Stay tuned. It is taking me a while because I am going to lose it in the video. If you saw my first video on this camera I was so excited.
By the way. The FZ1000 wasn't great either
Not much of a review...just repeating the camera specs...
Not a review. Maybe you should look for a video with "review" in the title
My bad, not a review. But you clearly state “Should I upgrade?” That is what I meant, it was a lot of waiting in the video for a review of reasons to upgrade, and by the time I lost interest a few minutes in (unboxing videos are the lamest form of TH-cam entertainment) it was never really more than a summary of features, not reasons that makes it better than say, a FZ1000. Just feedback man, dont mean to insult you.
Actually only the Americans say twenty five hundred. The rest of the world says two thousand five hundred and to us in the UK the phrase twenty five hundred just sounds nonsense !!!
hehe!
in morocco which i'm from it's 350$. i swear lol
What?