Going 5-6 wide into turn 1 is something that can be done at a place like Pocono but not when you're all trying to go into a tight 90° right hander designed for open wheel cars, hell, we saw this happen earlier this year on the restarts at COTA
@@karlsingleton6115 completely understandable man, I have to agree. Sundays finish was ridiculous with guys wrecking each other to finish 1-2 spots ahead of where they were running. So I have to agree with you man.
The Absolute best thing this weekend was Dale Jarrett getting Mario Andretti to kiss the bricks. That photo with the winners at Indy at the bricks is priceless
Chase Elliott probably had nothing for Reddick - but his drive to 2nd after highly questionable pit calls and the brake bias not working (contributed to his spin in Stage 1) was the most impressive of the day. Too bad he got wiped out in one of the crazy late restarts.
Chastain was running 5th when he decided to run straight into the access road, and came out battling Reddick for the lead. It was an obvious advantage, and he clearly never even tried to take that first turn. People are making excuses like how the rules allowed him to do that, but everyone knows the access road is only meant to be used as a runoff if you miss the turn. You are supposed to come to a complete stop before continuing, and he never did, which is how he made up 4 spots and took the lead. He had no business inserting himself into that situation and possibly ruining the outcome for the leaders. It's lucky he didn't end up taking Reddick out altogether.
If you take the access road you don't have to stop. You should not be able to gain an advantage by taking an access road. Nascar need to look at that next year and add something to take the speed away from the car before they come back on track
The access road is intended to be neutral - no advantage. If anything a disadvantage since it is so dirty. NASCAR were afraid of disqualifying yet another win from a driver. The rule should be very clear. True, it would have helped Chastains case if he had made an ever so slight turn in to T1, then continue to bail out down the escape road.
I went to the Indycar race and stayed for the Xfinity race and kept thinking how much of a missed opportunity it was not to have Cup directly follow Indycar
Certainly not at the level of a Cup race. I there than the Indy 500, the average American race fan does not follow open wheel racing. The top US series is Cup. The second US series is Xfinity. After that are all others.
Jim, I know it's hard to see your beloved Cup series is losing interest and fans by the truckload to open wheel racing, but frankly, NASCAR only moved to the forefront in the US as a result of the rift between CART and IRL and people are moving on from the anarchy of Nascar to enjoy a higher level of performance and skill evident in both indycar and F1. I'm not saying people don't enjoy Nascar for its carnage and driver outbursts, but it's definitely lost touch. Feel free to call Indycar a second tier series, we'll be laughing at you at the finish line.
It blows my mind that in a road race it was even a question if Ross should be penalized for what he did. Stewards in any other series would give a penalty without even blinking for track limits on that move
You're actually wrong about that. Last year in the F1 Austrian grand prix Fernando Alonso not only complained about drivers being able to gain an advantage when using a run-off area, he said he'd do it intentionally if it wasn't changed. Then he practiced it, then he did it in the race, and was not penalized.
@@joshuapowers4623 this is in reference to the final 2 corners of the circuit were cars would cross the white line with their right sides to get the best possible run into the final corner but the difference in that and totally skipping a corner and then gaining positions out of it and racing the leaders aren't comparable
The move was permitted in a race the day before. And nobody said it would be penalized today. That said most of us are happy Ross didn’t win on that move
It was so cool bruh, you had to be there, you could hear the screetch of the paint, smell the rubber from the tires, and you could feel the pain of the drivers. it's a funnel cake down there at TURN 1. It was awesome.
Wallace should have been penalized when he cut through the grass during the big one at the end cause he didn't make a complete stop. He didn't even slow down and gained a few positions
Would've been funny if NASCAR had to disqualify the winner two weeks in a row...lol What happened to the coming to a complete stop when you miss a corner? Replay showed Larson going a little less than 115 mph at the point of contact, still a heavy wreck...lol
the whole point of that missed turn route was to not have to come to a stop but to take the longer route and get back onto track. he just tried to outsmart the system which I'm perfectly fine with. it was either that ot get ran over and wrecked into turn 1.
@@waynemangan9925 thays exactly my point. if the whole field comes to a stop in a turn, then anything could be considered a "shortcut to gain positions"
Chastain going into the runoff was great gamesman ship. He realized it could be quicker and just said fuck it, and went for it. Still deserved the penalty but that was smart.
Fernando Alonso did the same thing in Russia and I was screaming at my tv for someone to do it. So pissed nascar penalized chastain. They mad he’s smart
DQ chance missed. Not sure what the difference of putting tape on the mold line of the body and then obviously cutting the course, I guess if your last name isn’t Hamlin your not doing anything wrong
The fact NASCAR didn't have a full stop rule for the runoff doesn't mean this was smart. Just because you don't violate the letter of the law doesn't mean you didn't shoot the spirit of it in the head. There is no way they could give this idiot no penalty for this
I mean he did technically. He clearly broke for the corner on the replay, he just gassed it up. I just learned he was supposed to do a stop/go in T12. That’s what earned him the 30 second penalty. What weird nascar rules.
They are only keeping the race on the schedule for the IMS name. The attendance has been dreadful for almost a decade, but it can be hidden better using the road course. I don't think the new car is enough to draw people back infor the oval, even if I think it would make for a better race. I like the idea of splitting it into two 200 mile races.
Chastain said a couple of weeks ago that he would never change and this proves it. He deserves to be chastised for his behaviour. As for the rest of the race, well I watched the Indycar race the day before which was far better and just shows that NASCAR should stick to oval racing!
Bro not only did the tent thingie get on track, just before turn one there’s a tunnel to go from the outfield and infield. A dude with a trailer hooked up to it was too tall of a trailer and slammed into the concrete 😆 it was historical and they had to get it cleaned up in about 10 on track green laps
I've been watching racing for more than half a century, both live and on TV, and I thought this was one of the most entertaining races of this season. "Road" races are - my opinion - a lot more fun to watch than ovals, and this one gave a lot of drivers an opportunity to show they're slow learners. Every restart saw the same crowd of 5-wide trying to get through a turn designed for, at most, 2-wide. It was like watching bumper cars at the state fair, with a lot of drivers basically taking themselves out of the race.
Overall an entertaining race. One thing that I was pleased with was, apart from the stage cautions, this wasn't a caution-fest race, even with so many 360 degree spins.
I wouldn't mind a road course/oval doubleheader for the NASCAR Cup Series. I was hoping the NASCAR-IndyCar doubleheader would last but the crowd for the Gallagher GP was very bad. The best moment of the weekend for me is still Alexander Rossi finally winning an IndyCar race.
I think when the fans are buying tickets they looked at the 3 races at Indy this year felt like they had to choose which race to go see. one GMR and one 500 is just right . They should find another short oval like Milwaukee. I love seeing Iowa and Gateway every year they are interesting with lots of drama. 2 GMR road races at Indy was too many. I understood during the COVID year but not anymore.
Thank you for putting that red arrow over Chastain's car at 1:05 I might have missed it! Note to the editor: Perhaps try including a red circle as well so the less eagle-eyed among us can spot the car next time!
I was lucky enough to attend the inaugural Brickyard 400. at the time my mother said that would probably be our only chance to see a race at the Speedway because getting tickets to the Indy 500 was impossible. I too just so happened to see Jeff Gordon when my first and only NASCAR race. being from the St Louis area obviously we were cheering for Rusty Wallace and Kenny Schrader I can't remember if Kenny was in there or not. but everybody booed Rusty whenever he took the lead. anyway it was nuts the amount of people there, I've never seen that many people before or since! anyway I totally agree with your idea for the brickyard weekend double header Saturday on the road course Sunday on the oval. that would be awesome. I had a fantasy that somehow St Louis would put together a street race and we could do something similar go over to the oval and Madison the next day or the night before. obviously that would be next to impossible. Great coverage as always looking forward to Nashville next weekend and I'll see you in a few weeks at Gateway! ☮️❤️🎵🌍🤗🏁
Your suggestion for the future of this event sounds good to me. I hope that the powers-that-be are paying heed. I especially like the idea of the overall champion of the two races with the driver who has the highest average finish.
Because multiple cars have been known to blow the corner one after the other. You don't want someone jamming on their brakes if two or 3 other cars right behind them also missed the corner and are also carrying speed.
How in the hell is nobody at A.J. Allmendinger's car when he climbs out of it and practically collapses from heat stroke? They knew he was in trouble 10 laps before he finished the race. They should have had a gurney and an IV fluids bottle ready the moment he stopped the car. Ridiculous. 😡
@@raritania7581I read that. How long did it take to finally arrive after they saw him on the ground struggling? It should have been there the second he stopped the car on pit road. He should have been helped out of the car.
I like your suggestion about THE BRICKYARD 400. Only problem would be set-up changes for road course to oval in 24 hours. Most teams bring 2 cars but if they wreck during qualify or practice for road course that extra car most likely will have road set-up on it. I still love the idea.
The start and restarts in Turn 1 were like watching the Speedrome on Kitley Ave on a bad night for the featured figure eight race. And IndyCar was the opening act for this?
Absolutely love your idea for the future NASCAR weekends at IMS. They need to do something completely different and out of the box in order to be unique. The "Brickyard" race just doesn't have the same prestige that it did when they started going there in the 90's. And the whole issue with Ross Chastain seems laughable to me. As you said, he never even attempted to make that corner. That escape route is meant a safety valve if you're approaching turn 1 and there's a wreck in front of you and you have no other option. He has three peddles, a gear shifter, and a steering wheel just like everyone else. When he found himself out of position heading into that turn he could have forced the issue and attempted to make it four wide into the turn, or seeing that he wasn't going to make it, he could have backed off and taken the best result possible. Besides that, the drivers were told before the race that if they took the escape road they would be required to do a stop an go on the other side of the track. The 30 second penalty was 100% justified.
I don’t see Mr Penske liking what he saw today. Edit to add. The early Brickyards absolutely felt like the 500. I think they started falling off as the Indy 500 kind of rekindled. The locals quit going as the 500 was “back.” We are locals that dropped our Brickyard tickets probably late 2000’s.
My nephew has a hard time believing me when I tell him the first 5 or 6 years of this event at least, it was like having 2 indy 500s a year. All he knows is the small crowds he grew up with
I think on turns at road courses they should think about more than one way to get around the corner that the drivers could choose to get rid of 5 into 1 racing lines.The tracks could these access roads for safety during some races and spice them up for others. 5 into 1 traffic is as fast and is like being in LA rush hour. I`ve seen some racing where alternate routes can be timed to be somewhat comparable and keep the racing action interesting.
Of course the canopy tent goes straight for Cody Ware. At this point, it can't be a NASCAR race if an RWR car doesn't wreck or get the middle finger from God.
I love your idea about the Brickyard 400. I wish you would give some time to USAC and other Sprint and Midget series. There is an awesome night of racing tonight at Indianapolis Raceway Park. Sprint cars and midgets will be racing tonight and general admission tickets are FREE!
Your suggestion seems fun! But they will never do that, of course. I miss the Brickyard 400, but I guess it lost people's attention and moving it around the schedule. But yea, I am one of the few that wants to bring back the oval. PS: The NASCAR championship round should be 4 races. I will accept the playoffs if they just lengthen the Championship. Motorsports don't work like that, and a singular championship race cheapens the championship. If it was results of the final four races, they would still be hella close in points, but random stuff happening in one race would play less of a factor. I'm just including this in case you want to comment on NASCAR's method of crowning a champ.
In my opinion, if the access road ends up being a temporary shortcut because cars are piling into turn one and the first through 4th cars like bowling pins, and results in a positive gain for a car taking it due to circumstantial pile up in turn one, then you cant call it cheating. Tats on Nascar to have said "You must stop and go" or force a slower cut through". If you look at the replay he had slowed for the corner, then there were 2 choices, get piled into by the field attempting to turn into them, or just go straight. He did actually yield to Reddick. It was almost inevitable that a driver would have chosen the option given the intolerably caveman like turn one pile ins. Leave it no NASCAR to deviate from the "must stop" rule and accidently make a shortcut.
It's not the tracks fault for the wrecks, it's the drivers driving over their heads. Taking that over-aggressive driving style like at the ovals where they can get away with it most cases and trying to apply it to a road course. It's just not going to work out. I don't care what anybody says, but I'd take 10 more road courses over getting the oval back at the Brickyard. I love the Chicago street course idea, not happy Road America is the one that lost a date but I like the idea nonetheless. These new cars are literally designed to produce better road course racing and I think it's proved that it does. People were saying for years prior to switching to the road course at Indy that something needed to be done to reinvigorate the Nascar race at Indy and they did and now everybody wants to go back to the old thing that failed like it'll somehow be better now. Sure, all the new gimmicks and stage racing will produce the artificial drama that the younger audience craves but the racing itself will stink like it always has at the Brickyard 400. Fans weren't showing up anymore, viewership was down so they got rid of it. Good riddance. But now we've got #bringbacktheoval and that's the new popular opinion. Yeah, bring back more of that boring racing most people complained about just 5 years ago when we had it but it'll magically be better now apparently. That'll fix everything, right? It never does. It's a knee-jerk reaction from a fanbase that has no true clue what they actually want and they'll complain no matter what anyway. This is only the 2nd time these drivers raced here, the Roval was pretty sketchy too those first couple of years and all those wrecks going into turn 1. They'll be adjustments going forward that these teams will do next time that will reduce the wheel hopping issues and braking we saw which will naturally result in less wrecks. If you can look past those wrecks, the racing itself was pretty good. Same thing that happened with the Roval. Those first few years were wreckfests and people were saying they had to go back to the oval and the Roval wasn't a 'real' road course and all that nonsense to now where the Roval is pretty much accepted and produces pretty good road course racing which will be even further improved with the new car. Regardless, the point here is that not every race is going to be exactly what you want it to be and to have those expectations is arrogantly unrealistic. But there's enough diversity on the schedule now that everybody should be happy with at least a few races every year. I like the road courses and short tracks even though the short tracks are greatly suffering due to the new car, I still like them. At least more than generic cookie-cutter 1.5 mile tracks and superspeedways that everybody else seems to love. What's the next race? Michigan? Not going to miss anything skipping that one, bring on Watkins Glen. #moreroadcourses
Ross thought he was way smarter then the field….should of been DQ cause he didn’t try for the corner he just throttled down and went on the excess road. He was no wear near 4 wide like he said in his interview
If he stayed on the track he would have been pushed off the track because the car to the right of him almost did, so if he didn’t do it he would have to cut through the grass. It seems that either way he might’ve gotten penalized. If NASCAR wants to penalize him because he followed there stupid rule than they’re even dumber than they think.
Reddick was very patient and careful with Chastain and managed to get the lead back, which was impressive. He even mentioned he was worried about Ross the bowling pin lol.
I was at multiple "prime brickyards" and yes I would say it was somewhat comparable to the Indy 500. Not quite the same pageantry or aura but crowd size wise and just overall excitement was similar...
Indianapolis motor speedway said the earliest is 24 and they are exploring the idea of every other year it's the oval in the other year it's the road course
@@johnkozlowski8782 there is still more ovals than there is road courses on the schedule. The NASCAR schedule is 36 races 38 if you count the clash and the All-Star and 6 or 7 road courses on the schedule
If something like Larsons brake failure happens next year at Chicago in the city, or after the long straightaway at circuit of the Americas wher the drivers are turning left instead of right, and he hits in the drivers side of the car it will be ugly
I do believe they should run the oval again, but it’s gotta be two separate weekends. Those are two completely different setups, not just cars, but track as well. A brickyard later into the evening would be much more successful in my opinion.
In the previous century the stands were full of people who came to watch mature men race. Now the drivers are go-kart kids in their late teens and early twenties.
I have an interesting idea. Have NASCAR go to Indy still and run the oval instead without it being an Indycar double header. Then have Indycar and NASCAR run a double header at Iowa with both of them running on Saturday and every year they swap who leads off the day. Can you imagine a NASCAR or Indycar driver attempting the double that weekend and running 2 races in two different styles of cars in 2 different series on the same track on the same day. It would be crazy.
Oh dam, i like that idea of having those 2 races and have like a 2 million dollar bonus for the average finish being brickyard champ, thats def different
I’ll tell you what I would do. I would have a 200 mile race on Saturday on the road course. Then on Sunday the return of the brickyard 400 on the over 600 miles in total over the weekend for the cup series. Xfinity and truck series optional imnsa and IndyCar optional.
David I thought your idea about the split weekend was genius but maybe 150 miles on Saturday 250 miles on Sunday the question I asked is Pocono have an infield road course cuz that would make their weekend a lot better as well brilliant idea
Probably an unpopular opinion but I really wish the caution for debris with 6 to go, could have just been local on the front stretch. Not sure if that’s a thing in NASCAR, but it would have avoided the chaotic, messy restarts at the end. That or maybe single file restarts would have been better.
I think running the oval and the road course in the same weekend is a tall order. I'm not sure they can reconfigure things so quickly. [ETA: But it would be great to see!]
Was a terrible race today. They need to get rid of that 90 degrees first turn. That would cut out the bad wrecks and make a better race. Or better yet take the entire race to IRP where they would pack the stands. It is clear that fans dont like it since the stands were empty. The old cars were much safer than these new junky cars. So glad that Russian driver did bad today. He should not even be allowed to race in NASCAR.
IRP is too small for the Cup Series when it comes to seating capacity although I agree with you that it would be a sellout. IRP needs to add more seats in order for it to be considered a Cup Series venue.
The double cup race weekend sounds appealing especially when you put it that way (two races combined for a brickyard champion). I like the multiple series at the track for one weekend though and I think IMS does too. The IMS road coarse is a tough fia Grade 1 track for the competitors and the weekend brought racing fans from all backgrounds.
You talking about how it's more of a gimmicky entertainment thing than actual racing is why I'm so close to just not watching nascar anymore. I just want some simple racing. Not some manufactured crap.
Ross Chastain must have been listening to the TV booth hey mentioned that you should take the run off rather than get knocked off the track in turn 1 . It was Steve that said it.
5 and 6 wide into turn 1 was crazy. How they didn't destroy more cars I don't know. It was much better than last year. And no turtles peeling up and taking off splitters.
I like what Dale Jarrett said at the 2nd to last restart when he said: these drivers have run out of respect for each other. It’s so true.
Going 5-6 wide into turn 1 is something that can be done at a place like Pocono but not when you're all trying to go into a tight 90° right hander designed for open wheel cars, hell, we saw this happen earlier this year on the restarts at COTA
That’s part of why I quit watching last year.
@@karlsingleton6115 because of the way drivers race each other?
@@jakejonas7366 The young guys. The older guys still have respect. I don’t want to watch Kamikaze dives every restart.
@@karlsingleton6115 completely understandable man, I have to agree. Sundays finish was ridiculous with guys wrecking each other to finish 1-2 spots ahead of where they were running. So I have to agree with you man.
The Absolute best thing this weekend was Dale Jarrett getting Mario Andretti to kiss the bricks. That photo with the winners at Indy at the bricks is priceless
Chase Elliott probably had nothing for Reddick - but his drive to 2nd after highly questionable pit calls and the brake bias not working (contributed to his spin in Stage 1) was the most impressive of the day. Too bad he got wiped out in one of the crazy late restarts.
I’ve been to 18 Brickyards and many Indy 500’s and I’ve never heard a sound like when Larson hit Dillon. That was an incredible wreck
That was a wild and hard wreck. Had he been going faster and hit Ty square in the door, that could have been major injuries for both.
Chastain was running 5th when he decided to run straight into the access road, and came out battling Reddick for the lead. It was an obvious advantage, and he clearly never even tried to take that first turn.
People are making excuses like how the rules allowed him to do that, but everyone knows the access road is only meant to be used as a runoff if you miss the turn. You are supposed to come to a complete stop before continuing, and he never did, which is how he made up 4 spots and took the lead.
He had no business inserting himself into that situation and possibly ruining the outcome for the leaders.
It's lucky he didn't end up taking Reddick out altogether.
If you take the access road you don't have to stop. You should not be able to gain an advantage by taking an access road. Nascar need to look at that next year and add something to take the speed away from the car before they come back on track
@@5tig_ I would do the F1 thing and add tire packs.
@@5tig_ exaclty.
Wow he definitely tried to make the corner but there was 5 wide crashing. He just took the rejoin way too fast
The access road is intended to be neutral - no advantage. If anything a disadvantage since it is so dirty. NASCAR were afraid of disqualifying yet another win from a driver. The rule should be very clear. True, it would have helped Chastains case if he had made an ever so slight turn in to T1, then continue to bail out down the escape road.
just here with the tin foil hat watching the road course vs oval for Indy debate…
#bringbacktheoval
Bring back the nascar unlimited race track the Motorsphere where the next gens can go inside the sphere and in loops then charge boosts em
No such thing as tin foil
I went to the Indycar race and stayed for the Xfinity race and kept thinking how much of a missed opportunity it was not to have Cup directly follow Indycar
NASCAR is never going to run the country's top racing series with a second rate series.
I think they do two days to give the fans an entire weekend
@@jimclifford6811 "second rate"
Certainly not at the level of a Cup race. I there than the Indy 500, the average American race fan does not follow open wheel racing. The top US series is Cup. The second US series is Xfinity. After that are all others.
Jim, I know it's hard to see your beloved Cup series is losing interest and fans by the truckload to open wheel racing, but frankly, NASCAR only moved to the forefront in the US as a result of the rift between CART and IRL and people are moving on from the anarchy of Nascar to enjoy a higher level of performance and skill evident in both indycar and F1. I'm not saying people don't enjoy Nascar for its carnage and driver outbursts, but it's definitely lost touch. Feel free to call Indycar a second tier series, we'll be laughing at you at the finish line.
I just saw an interview with AJ and he looked 200% better than he did! Whew, that could have been much worse than it was! Thank you David!
Other Drivers: Gotta stay on the track.
Chastain: Mario Kart Shortcut
It blows my mind that in a road race it was even a question if Ross should be penalized for what he did. Stewards in any other series would give a penalty without even blinking for track limits on that move
You're actually wrong about that. Last year in the F1 Austrian grand prix Fernando Alonso not only complained about drivers being able to gain an advantage when using a run-off area, he said he'd do it intentionally if it wasn't changed. Then he practiced it, then he did it in the race, and was not penalized.
@@joshuapowers4623 this is in reference to the final 2 corners of the circuit were cars would cross the white line with their right sides to get the best possible run into the final corner but the difference in that and totally skipping a corner and then gaining positions out of it and racing the leaders aren't comparable
Nascar said that move was allowed during pre race
What’s a “track limits”?
The move was permitted in a race the day before. And nobody said it would be penalized today. That said most of us are happy Ross didn’t win on that move
NASCAR has become entertainment based on bumper car racing. Credibility is gone.
It was so cool bruh, you had to be there, you could hear the screetch of the paint, smell the rubber from the tires, and you could feel the pain of the drivers. it's a funnel cake down there at TURN 1. It was awesome.
All Motorsports are becoming about entertainment
David Land reporting and covering a NASCAR race is cursed
But who cares, David is the best!
I thought Eric uploaded first
@@I_AM_HYDRAA I was referring to David reporting a NASCAR race. It feels cursed since he covers IndyCar and IMSA when he’s at those races lol
He said cursed.. not first!! 🤣
your brickyard 400 idea with 2 x 200 mile races in the weekend is a genius idea
Wallace should have been penalized when he cut through the grass during the big one at the end cause he didn't make a complete stop. He didn't even slow down and gained a few positions
F1 should come here instead of Miami. It's already grade 1, has lots of history and plenty of vantage points.
they used to like 15 years ago
Hard to justify so many major races in one city, and nobody in indy is gonna skip the 500 for F1.
You obviously don't remember the F1 race at Indianapolis in 2005 which was probably the most embarrassing race in history then!
@@michaelwillman5342 Yeah, F1 would have to lower their prices and they would need to double up with NASCAR probably, which likely would not happen.
I like the idea of doin a road course oval split on the same weekend. That's thinkin outside the box!
New rule. Make the drivers work on their cars. lol. I bet things would change a little.
Why is no one caring that Daniil kvyat was is this race
Would've been funny if NASCAR had to disqualify the winner two weeks in a row...lol
What happened to the coming to a complete stop when you miss a corner?
Replay showed Larson going a little less than 115 mph at the point of contact, still a heavy wreck...lol
the whole point of that missed turn route was to not have to come to a stop but to take the longer route and get back onto track. he just tried to outsmart the system which I'm perfectly fine with. it was either that ot get ran over and wrecked into turn 1.
I thought he was going closer to 130-140 mph. You are going probably 150-160 mph on the straightaway at least at top speed.
@@lawrencewebb3659 100% agree. Thats on NASCAR if due to a caveman pile up in turn 1 it becomes a shortcut.
@@waynemangan9925 thays exactly my point. if the whole field comes to a stop in a turn, then anything could be considered a "shortcut to gain positions"
Great idea for the two-race "Brickyard 400" weekend !
Chastain going into the runoff was great gamesman ship. He realized it could be quicker and just said fuck it, and went for it. Still deserved the penalty but that was smart.
Fernando Alonso did the same thing in Russia and I was screaming at my tv for someone to do it. So pissed nascar penalized chastain. They mad he’s smart
DQ chance missed. Not sure what the difference of putting tape on the mold line of the body and then obviously cutting the course, I guess if your last name isn’t Hamlin your not doing anything wrong
He's brilliant
The fact NASCAR didn't have a full stop rule for the runoff doesn't mean this was smart. Just because you don't violate the letter of the law doesn't mean you didn't shoot the spirit of it in the head. There is no way they could give this idiot no penalty for this
I wish they would light up the track and road coarse so NASCAR could race under the lights. It would be kick ass!!
Prime Brickyard felt in a lot of ways like the 500 and even bigger in some ways. Very similar but had its own identity
I mean I appreciate the lack of effort from Chastain in not even attempting to make turn 1
He got creative
I mean he did technically. He clearly broke for the corner on the replay, he just gassed it up. I just learned he was supposed to do a stop/go in T12. That’s what earned him the 30 second penalty. What weird nascar rules.
Yeah, i was messing about on iracing the other day and wondered what would happen is someone took that on a restart and we got an answer
Jimmy Spencer has got nothing on Ross lol. He's worth the price of admission!
I honestly think that David Land is the most objective racing analyst in America right now...great video 👍.
They are only keeping the race on the schedule for the IMS name. The attendance has been dreadful for almost a decade, but it can be hidden better using the road course. I don't think the new car is enough to draw people back infor the oval, even if I think it would make for a better race. I like the idea of splitting it into two 200 mile races.
The gmr grand prix 2 weeks before the indy 500 couldn't even attract a crowd.
@@Barfyman362. The dilution of the event over the course of the pandemic really hurt it.
I think attendance is a little better on the road course. That track is also hard to see and the NASCAR cars do not go that fast in the oval.
They said the attendance for yesterday's race was up from last year but not by alot
Chastain said a couple of weeks ago that he would never change and this proves it. He deserves to be chastised for his behaviour. As for the rest of the race, well I watched the Indycar race the day before which was far better and just shows that NASCAR should stick to oval racing!
I think it shows that Indy is not meant for NASCAR.
Bro not only did the tent thingie get on track, just before turn one there’s a tunnel to go from the outfield and infield. A dude with a trailer hooked up to it was too tall of a trailer and slammed into the concrete 😆 it was historical and they had to get it cleaned up in about 10 on track green laps
It was the Air Force trailer, too, lol
@@jmiddlefinger yeah 😆
I've been watching racing for more than half a century, both live and on TV, and I thought this was one of the most entertaining races of this season. "Road" races are - my opinion - a lot more fun to watch than ovals, and this one gave a lot of drivers an opportunity to show they're slow learners. Every restart saw the same crowd of 5-wide trying to get through a turn designed for, at most, 2-wide. It was like watching bumper cars at the state fair, with a lot of drivers basically taking themselves out of the race.
Driving standards today were unbelievably bad…
I feel like now the drivers realize their car is a herdened bumper car now compared to the sheet metal body.
In other news. It was cool to see Daniil Kvyat in the field today😅🤷🏾♂️
It was cool, it's a shame his car had so much trouble. I think he is supposed to run Watkins Glen and the Charlotte Roval also
The fact he finished his first race in such a different type of racing for him is great.
I'm sure he learned alot. He's into it.
Well Kimi is on his way to run a road race in a few weeks bwaah
@@jamescampbell390 Nice! Cup race at Watkins?
@@chrispraz877 yup. With trackhouse in the 91 car
the guy screaming makes the tent video LOL
That's Dale Jr
Overall an entertaining race. One thing that I was pleased with was, apart from the stage cautions, this wasn't a caution-fest race, even with so many 360 degree spins.
And until the end, they raced hard but fairly clean.
The idea of 200 mile each track same weekend makes so much sense.
I wouldn't mind a road course/oval doubleheader for the NASCAR Cup Series. I was hoping the NASCAR-IndyCar doubleheader would last but the crowd for the Gallagher GP was very bad. The best moment of the weekend for me is still Alexander Rossi finally winning an IndyCar race.
I think when the fans are buying tickets they looked at the 3 races at Indy this year felt like they had to choose which race to go see. one GMR and one 500 is just right . They should find another short oval like Milwaukee. I love seeing Iowa and Gateway every year they are interesting with lots of drama. 2 GMR road races at Indy was too many. I understood during the COVID year but not anymore.
The more Cup races I see Ross Chastain in, the more I dislike him as a competitor.. period
Yup, I'm with you.
You have some great ideas there, David! That’s why we’re watching you on TH-cam.
You was my guy for indycar news. You are starting to be a good source for some nascar stuff now too. Keep it up, big dog
Thank you for putting that red arrow over Chastain's car at 1:05 I might have missed it! Note to the editor: Perhaps try including a red circle as well so the less eagle-eyed among us can spot the car next time!
@@chukowiley3823 no. Not everything is a meme.
@@chukowiley3823 but everything on the internet is real.
Love your idea for the Indy Nascar weekend.
I was lucky enough to attend the inaugural Brickyard 400. at the time my mother said that would probably be our only chance to see a race at the Speedway because getting tickets to the Indy 500 was impossible. I too just so happened to see Jeff Gordon when my first and only NASCAR race. being from the St Louis area obviously we were cheering for Rusty Wallace and Kenny Schrader I can't remember if Kenny was in there or not. but everybody booed Rusty whenever he took the lead. anyway it was nuts the amount of people there, I've never seen that many people before or since!
anyway I totally agree with your idea for the brickyard weekend double header Saturday on the road course Sunday on the oval. that would be awesome. I had a fantasy that somehow St Louis would put together a street race and we could do something similar go over to the oval and Madison the next day or the night before. obviously that would be next to impossible. Great coverage as always looking forward to Nashville next weekend and I'll see you in a few weeks at Gateway!
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Your suggestion for the future of this event sounds good to me. I hope that the powers-that-be are paying heed. I especially like the idea of the overall champion of the two races with the driver who has the highest average finish.
Why they don't require a complete stop like they do at Watkins Glen is beyond me...?
Because multiple cars have been known to blow the corner one after the other. You don't want someone jamming on their brakes if two or 3 other cars right behind them also missed the corner and are also carrying speed.
I've been referring to NASCAR as "motortainment" for the last several years now.
Definitely the WWE of the racing world. It is embarrassing
It was crazy good today
I definitely see what you mean... but I don't know if I can honestly say it's a bad thing. Just have to appreciate it for what it is.
Funny how nascar has yet to say how much advantage was the tape, but was real quick to DQ, JokeCar not Nascar
Doesn’t matter if there was a advantage or not , the rules are clear and NASCAR warned the teams about messing with the cars.
Legit breaking of the rules and the penalties were spelled out at the start of the season. It wasn't an accident they did it
NBC stinks on their coverage
Your idea for a Brickyard weekend is actually AWESOME!!!!
How in the hell is nobody at A.J. Allmendinger's car when he climbs out of it and practically collapses from heat stroke? They knew he was in trouble 10 laps before he finished the race. They should have had a gurney and an IV fluids bottle ready the moment he stopped the car. Ridiculous. 😡
They had a stretcher
@@raritania7581I read that. How long did it take to finally arrive after they saw him on the ground struggling? It should have been there the second he stopped the car on pit road. He should have been helped out of the car.
@@mrb552 There's video on Skewcar
I like your suggestion about THE BRICKYARD 400. Only problem would be set-up changes for road course to oval in 24 hours. Most teams bring 2 cars but if they wreck during qualify or practice for road course that extra car most likely will have road set-up on it. I still love the idea.
It would be very interesting if next year they gave the driver a choice of which path to take at turn one.
The start and restarts in Turn 1 were like watching the Speedrome on Kitley Ave on a bad night for the featured figure eight race. And IndyCar was the opening act for this?
Gonna be honest this race needs to stay on the oval
Chastains response to the move was as stupid as his decision to do it!
Ross needs to learn some good Sportsmanship. Being a Good Driver does not make you a Good Person, and your Showing that with the way you Drove today!!
Absolutely love your idea for the future NASCAR weekends at IMS. They need to do something completely different and out of the box in order to be unique. The "Brickyard" race just doesn't have the same prestige that it did when they started going there in the 90's. And the whole issue with Ross Chastain seems laughable to me. As you said, he never even attempted to make that corner. That escape route is meant a safety valve if you're approaching turn 1 and there's a wreck in front of you and you have no other option. He has three peddles, a gear shifter, and a steering wheel just like everyone else. When he found himself out of position heading into that turn he could have forced the issue and attempted to make it four wide into the turn, or seeing that he wasn't going to make it, he could have backed off and taken the best result possible. Besides that, the drivers were told before the race that if they took the escape road they would be required to do a stop an go on the other side of the track. The 30 second penalty was 100% justified.
I don’t see Mr Penske liking what he saw today.
Edit to add. The early Brickyards absolutely felt like the 500. I think they started falling off as the Indy 500 kind of rekindled. The locals quit going as the 500 was “back.” We are locals that dropped our Brickyard tickets probably late 2000’s.
Bruh, bring the Brickyard 400 back (sponsored by Budweiser)
My nephew has a hard time believing me when I tell him the first 5 or 6 years of this event at least, it was like having 2 indy 500s a year. All he knows is the small crowds he grew up with
200/200 I like it! Give this man a promotion.
I think on turns at road courses they should think about more than one way to get around the corner that the drivers could choose to get rid of 5 into 1 racing lines.The tracks could these access roads for safety during some races and spice them up for others. 5 into 1 traffic is as fast and is like being in LA rush hour. I`ve seen some racing where alternate routes can be timed to be somewhat comparable and keep the racing action interesting.
Of course the canopy tent goes straight for Cody Ware.
At this point, it can't be a NASCAR race if an RWR car doesn't wreck or get the middle finger from God.
Hey Joey Hand had the lead once !!!
I love your idea about the Brickyard 400. I wish you would give some time to USAC and other Sprint and Midget series. There is an awesome night of racing tonight at Indianapolis Raceway Park. Sprint cars and midgets will be racing tonight and general admission tickets are FREE!
I wish Kvyat was in IndyCar.
People love to complain about this race but then love watching it
Your suggestion seems fun! But they will never do that, of course. I miss the Brickyard 400, but I guess it lost people's attention and moving it around the schedule. But yea, I am one of the few that wants to bring back the oval.
PS: The NASCAR championship round should be 4 races. I will accept the playoffs if they just lengthen the Championship. Motorsports don't work like that, and a singular championship race cheapens the championship. If it was results of the final four races, they would still be hella close in points, but random stuff happening in one race would play less of a factor. I'm just including this in case you want to comment on NASCAR's method of crowning a champ.
10 was too many, 3 might be a better number. But it also encourages point racing whereas 1 race forces you to race for the win.
Amen about Ty and Kyle walking away. And I hope AJ recovers sooner than later
In my opinion, if the access road ends up being a temporary shortcut because cars are piling into turn one and the first through 4th cars like bowling pins, and results in a positive gain for a car taking it due to circumstantial pile up in turn one, then you cant call it cheating. Tats on Nascar to have said "You must stop and go" or force a slower cut through". If you look at the replay he had slowed for the corner, then there were 2 choices, get piled into by the field attempting to turn into them, or just go straight. He did actually yield to Reddick. It was almost inevitable that a driver would have chosen the option given the intolerably caveman like turn one pile ins. Leave it no NASCAR to deviate from the "must stop" rule and accidently make a shortcut.
We were in the same area! That Larson/Dillon crash was brutal. The dancing tent was also great, lol
It's not the tracks fault for the wrecks, it's the drivers driving over their heads. Taking that over-aggressive driving style like at the ovals where they can get away with it most cases and trying to apply it to a road course. It's just not going to work out.
I don't care what anybody says, but I'd take 10 more road courses over getting the oval back at the Brickyard. I love the Chicago street course idea, not happy Road America is the one that lost a date but I like the idea nonetheless. These new cars are literally designed to produce better road course racing and I think it's proved that it does.
People were saying for years prior to switching to the road course at Indy that something needed to be done to reinvigorate the Nascar race at Indy and they did and now everybody wants to go back to the old thing that failed like it'll somehow be better now. Sure, all the new gimmicks and stage racing will produce the artificial drama that the younger audience craves but the racing itself will stink like it always has at the Brickyard 400. Fans weren't showing up anymore, viewership was down so they got rid of it. Good riddance.
But now we've got #bringbacktheoval and that's the new popular opinion. Yeah, bring back more of that boring racing most people complained about just 5 years ago when we had it but it'll magically be better now apparently. That'll fix everything, right? It never does. It's a knee-jerk reaction from a fanbase that has no true clue what they actually want and they'll complain no matter what anyway.
This is only the 2nd time these drivers raced here, the Roval was pretty sketchy too those first couple of years and all those wrecks going into turn 1. They'll be adjustments going forward that these teams will do next time that will reduce the wheel hopping issues and braking we saw which will naturally result in less wrecks. If you can look past those wrecks, the racing itself was pretty good. Same thing that happened with the Roval. Those first few years were wreckfests and people were saying they had to go back to the oval and the Roval wasn't a 'real' road course and all that nonsense to now where the Roval is pretty much accepted and produces pretty good road course racing which will be even further improved with the new car.
Regardless, the point here is that not every race is going to be exactly what you want it to be and to have those expectations is arrogantly unrealistic. But there's enough diversity on the schedule now that everybody should be happy with at least a few races every year. I like the road courses and short tracks even though the short tracks are greatly suffering due to the new car, I still like them. At least more than generic cookie-cutter 1.5 mile tracks and superspeedways that everybody else seems to love. What's the next race? Michigan? Not going to miss anything skipping that one, bring on Watkins Glen. #moreroadcourses
Ross thought he was way smarter then the field….should of been DQ cause he didn’t try for the corner he just throttled down and went on the excess road. He was no wear near 4 wide like he said in his interview
If he stayed on the track he would have been pushed off the track because the car to the right of him almost did, so if he didn’t do it he would have to cut through the grass. It seems that either way he might’ve gotten penalized. If NASCAR wants to penalize him because he followed there stupid rule than they’re even dumber than they think.
I like your idea about the Indy weekend
Reddick was very patient and careful with Chastain and managed to get the lead back, which was impressive. He even mentioned he was worried about Ross the bowling pin lol.
I was at multiple "prime brickyards" and yes I would say it was somewhat comparable to the Indy 500. Not quite the same pageantry or aura but crowd size wise and just overall excitement was similar...
When will NASCAR use the oval at the Brickyard?
Indianapolis motor speedway said the earliest is 24 and they are exploring the idea of every other year it's the oval in the other year it's the road course
@@johnhaas2523 they did that road course the last two years and I want to see more ovals than roadhouses.
@@johnkozlowski8782 there is still more ovals than there is road courses on the schedule. The NASCAR schedule is 36 races 38 if you count the clash and the All-Star and 6 or 7 road courses on the schedule
Who was the second car that took the access road and was that car penalized as well?
If something like Larsons brake failure happens next year at Chicago in the city, or after the long straightaway at circuit of the Americas wher the drivers are turning left instead of right, and he hits in the drivers side of the car it will be ugly
I do believe they should run the oval again, but it’s gotta be two separate weekends. Those are two completely different setups, not just cars, but track as well. A brickyard later into the evening would be much more successful in my opinion.
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Wow we have that Jeff Gordon won the first nascar races we ever attended…..He won the 1995 Bristol Spring Race I went
Judging by the, nearly empty stands, mes amis,
not too many people care about this contest...or the drama therein.
In the previous century the stands were full of people who came to watch mature men race. Now the drivers are go-kart kids in their late teens and early twenties.
the road course is fun to watch on TV its like watching a more violent form of v8 supercars
Danica's tire - Watkins Glen 2015
I have an interesting idea. Have NASCAR go to Indy still and run the oval instead without it being an Indycar double header. Then have Indycar and NASCAR run a double header at Iowa with both of them running on Saturday and every year they swap who leads off the day. Can you imagine a NASCAR or Indycar driver attempting the double that weekend and running 2 races in two different styles of cars in 2 different series on the same track on the same day. It would be crazy.
That's never going to happen so don't even make any stupid comments again
The 2 car was ripped off because chastain got in his way from making a run on Reddick,,, so yea, there's that. GREAT RACE THO
Oh dam, i like that idea of having those 2 races and have like a 2 million dollar bonus for the average finish being brickyard champ, thats def different
I’ll tell you what I would do. I would have a 200 mile race on Saturday on the road course. Then on Sunday the return of the brickyard 400 on the over 600 miles in total over the weekend for the cup series. Xfinity and truck series optional imnsa and IndyCar optional.
So David, will we be be playing a NASCAR and indycar game in 2022?
David I thought your idea about the split weekend was genius but maybe 150 miles on Saturday 250 miles on Sunday the question I asked is Pocono have an infield road course cuz that would make their weekend a lot better as well brilliant idea
They do and they have track days there a lot.
Probably an unpopular opinion but I really wish the caution for debris with 6 to go, could have just been local on the front stretch. Not sure if that’s a thing in NASCAR, but it would have avoided the chaotic, messy restarts at the end. That or maybe single file restarts would have been better.
I think running the oval and the road course in the same weekend is a tall order. I'm not sure they can reconfigure things so quickly. [ETA: But it would be great to see!]
Most of the barriers are removable overnight. They could switch things in 5-6 hours probably with how well designed everything is now and equipment.
Chastain was just trying to incorporate rallycross into Nascar. That was him doing his joker lap.
The most amazing race weekend I've seen in a long time. Don't change a thing.
NASCAR simply should have made a full stop rule on the access road.
Daniel Kvyit running in nascar the torpedo oh man that’s hilarious
Was a terrible race today. They need to get rid of that 90 degrees first turn. That would cut out the bad wrecks and make a better race. Or better yet take the entire race to IRP where they would pack the stands. It is clear that fans dont like it since the stands were empty. The old cars were much safer than these new junky cars. So glad that Russian driver did bad today. He should not even be allowed to race in NASCAR.
IRP is too small for the Cup Series when it comes to seating capacity although I agree with you that it would be a sellout. IRP needs to add more seats in order for it to be considered a Cup Series venue.
They need to be done with the road course at Indy all together and go back to racing the oval again 2 years in a row the race was a clown show.
@@chrisguardiano6143 safety wise as well, I don’t think the backstretch has a catch fence
ALL RUSSIANS ARE BADDDD. You're a fucking idiot
@@chrisguardiano6143 They took seats out of IRP so they can put them back
The double cup race weekend sounds appealing especially when you put it that way (two races combined for a brickyard champion). I like the multiple series at the track for one weekend though and I think IMS does too. The IMS road coarse is a tough fia Grade 1 track for the competitors and the weekend brought racing fans from all backgrounds.
If they ran the oval and the road course or the road course and LOR.
CANT WAIT FOR THE CHICAGO GANGLAND WARS,,
You talking about how it's more of a gimmicky entertainment thing than actual racing is why I'm so close to just not watching nascar anymore. I just want some simple racing. Not some manufactured crap.
Ross Chastain must have been listening to the TV booth hey mentioned that you should take the run off rather than get knocked off the track in turn 1 . It was Steve that said it.
I have an even naughtier idea...Xfinity/Truck to IRP, NASCAR races Brickyard 400 the Sunday before the Indy 500.... 😱
NASCAR is never going to race an Indianapolis on memorial Day weekend it's always going to be Charlotte you f****** uneducated so-called fan
5 and 6 wide into turn 1 was crazy. How they didn't destroy more cars I don't know. It was much better than last year. And no turtles peeling up and taking off splitters.
They should add short cuts makes it more fun like a Need for speed game 😝🤘🏽
2:57 curious to know your thoughts on that now