@Ultra CNC Beretta's weighed a couple hundred pounds more than a Z24 and the suspension is easily upgraded, among other things. I like both but it comes down to personal preference.
@Ultra CNC I've had several, both are fairly rare here and have long since plateaued as far as depreciation is concerned. Quality parts are dirt cheap and they'll last a long time when maintained which has always been my main interest in them. Rust is their main issue, I pulled my 93 from daily duty once the rear rockers started to rust until I get new steel for bodywork.
87 Z24 - the square body I feel has better proportions/ for whatever reason they look cleaner to me as a total package. Especially when you come across one in good condition today- maybe their rarity makes them cool to me. I have to agree about Beretta's- what an underrated, often overlooked Chevy from the 80's/90's. They have aged well for sure; at the time they were the perfect compromise between a Cavalier and a Lumina. Wish the Beretta got the 3.4 DOHC back then. Hell I wish the LS4 was available back then... Could you imagine..
They're slept on though. They might not be that fast stock, because the engines were pretty tame back then, but the car weighs nothing. The 88 to 94 cavaliers have the best body style and IMO its a pretty little car.
Not everyone requests not to show the engine. None of their recent videos have shown engines. It seems like they are more concerned with the stickers on the car than what's under the hood.
This is kind of cant believe it moment. My first car that i owned was a 92 z24 i bought it with 57k miles on it and drove it til 226k. My second car that i bought was a 5th gen 2001 Prelude that i drove to 205k and sold it last year. This brings memories. Thanks for making this clip.
To those saying there's "no aftermarket" for these engines...you have no clue. This is literally the LS1 of pushrod GM 60 degree V6's. I have no doubt he could bump to 30psi as there were a lot of forged internals in the 3.5l
100% lots of stuff, rods, pistons, cams, roller valvetrain. Later engines had roller camshafts. Heads accept off the shelf stainless steel valves with some minor reworking not expensive at all. There even off the shelf headers available for it. Most people just don't realize the potential, fits in lots of chassis too. I think a 3.5L Turbo Camaro was at Drag Week this year.
And the nice thing is that the 3500 bolts in place of the earlier 3100/3400 with very little modification except for the external crank trigger setup and some differing sensor locations. The 3100/3400 ECU's will even accept and run the 3500, although it's best to reflash. The aftermarket has always been pretty strong for these engines if you knew where to look and the 3500 just continues the tradition. I'd be a little curious to see how much the block itself can take though.
This has to be his fun car and doesn't want to hurt it. He said he bracket races it. Keeping the tune a little weak, and still going through the 3 speed auto.
I had a 86 z24 caviler with the v6 even without turbo it still hauled ass. It was heavy in the front so had to change the front rubber engine mounts. They would usually break the rubber apart from the mount
If you're going to have people shoot videos for 1320 at least tell them to shut up and show the car and the engine. This guys interviews make me cringe it's so painful.
I still have my early 90's Cavalier RS 2 Doors, 3.1L V6 OHV-MPFI, it's currently got approx 173,000 KMS. and kept it stock. Needs a paint job and some rust repairs, hope to do that when the virus quarantine is finished.
I like his shirt... Those cavaliers with the v6 were sketchy under full accel. Torque steer due to unequal c/v shaft length. I always called them contra cars, because driving them was like up down up down left right left right b a b a select select start, and by then it was pretty much a straight line, doing well over 90 on the on ramp.
Some people love to do crazy $#!+ to unsuspecting cars because it's fun. If there's very little aftermarket support, it's a challenge to figure out what works. I have more respect for people who do this, than those who just buy a ton of off-the-shelf parts that everyone else has to fit in. Those of us who have these cars get creative because we are. Copy and paste is the easy way out. --> 91 Z-24 3.1 MT5 FWD -stock. If I didn't improve that, I didn't do it right.
Is it newer GM 3.5 liter V6 or is it a stock engine bored and/ or stroked to 3.5l??? Just wondering because if it's a newer 3.5l (2004-2010) , I was wondering what supporting mods u did to it to take the turbo power??
BAD ASS CAR I am also very happy you said up a Cavalier I had a Sunbird of that year I miss that car.... A+ build next a alcohol /water injection system & more boost.
It can be done, you will need to do tons of work on it, starting with relocating the engine, transmission, and other parts needed to make it work. It's going to be easier if you can find the Pontiac Fiero, and you probably will have to modify parts here and there, and install it into the Z34.
I drove z24 cavalier same color in high school but I wish mine had been turbo lol. Still was a peppy car tho. Did many neutral drops white smoking the front tires lol
I love Gm v6 engines 2.8 to 3.8 even the fwd 3x00 to 3500 engines.can make fun power. The 2.8 and 3.4 are interchangeable , you can put the fwd aluminum heads on those engines. I want to build one just to piss off someone but tuning is a big concern. I read a lot guys just use mega squirt but it’s always more too it . Nice vid by the way
The Z24 never came with a turbo 3.1L. Also the GM 3.1L / 3100 is not a 90 degree V6. It's a 60 degree V6. The Z24 had between 135HP and 140HP depending on the year. That's not exactly fast...not even at the time.
Loren Husky V6Z24.Com and it shows how much you know about them....and yes they came in turbo but very few were made....read the website and learn a few things before sounding stupid....
It's funny you say that because I clicked on your link and it confirmed exactly what I said. The 3100 Turbo was never put in the Cavalier. It was an ASC Mclaren 3100 engine and it was put in the Pontiac Grand Prix Turbo from 1989 to 1990 which I already knew. Also you'll find on your link if you bother to read that the 3100 turbo was a 60 degree V6, as you'll see I said above before you called me stupid. Here is a direct quote from www.v6z24.com/specs/31turbo "Unfortunately, this engine never made it into a J-body. It was only used for two years, in the 1989 and 1990 Pontiac Grand Prix TGP." So if yours had a 3.1L Turbo, it was either aftermarket turbocharged, or engine swapped from the Pontiac. Any questions?
best looking cavalier body style imo
MostlyIrishCarGuy agreed
@Ultra CNC Beretta's weighed a couple hundred pounds more than a Z24 and the suspension is easily upgraded, among other things. I like both but it comes down to personal preference.
@Ultra CNC I've had several, both are fairly rare here and have long since plateaued as far as depreciation is concerned. Quality parts are dirt cheap and they'll last a long time when maintained which has always been my main interest in them. Rust is their main issue, I pulled my 93 from daily duty once the rear rockers started to rust until I get new steel for bodywork.
My parents had a corsica. I learned how to drive in that car.
87 Z24 - the square body I feel has better proportions/ for whatever reason they look cleaner to me as a total package. Especially when you come across one in good condition today- maybe their rarity makes them cool to me. I have to agree about Beretta's- what an underrated, often overlooked Chevy from the 80's/90's. They have aged well for sure; at the time they were the perfect compromise between a Cavalier and a Lumina. Wish the Beretta got the 3.4 DOHC back then. Hell I wish the LS4 was available back then... Could you imagine..
Even the guy was like "yeah ok man, I know you've never seen one before get over it"
I never seen anything like this before
yeah man can honestly say
Grimfate20 😂
thats his mom dumb ass!!!
Would be nice if the interviewer had some more original questions. Ask what tire size, what was the hardest thing to make this pos fast hahah
Gotta love how humble this man is! He's just happy to be there!
Glad to see some of our V6Z24 guys still at it!
l wonder if he has ever seen a 90's Cavalier at the drag strip before?
ጬ I had a 97. The only strip that ever saw was the scale at the junk yard.
The world may never know.
ጬ 😥
@Ultra CNCright on ls swap turbo em all
I have to say man I had never seen a old cavy in a dragg before man
Why are they not showing video of the engine????????????????????
Jesse Vaughn i knowwww
Jesse Vaughn didnt show it on the omni either....
Maybe they've never seen one before.
or time
Video guy Is a dumb fuck!
Mad respect for having the balls to pour money into a cavalier
They're slept on though. They might not be that fast stock, because the engines were pretty tame back then, but the car weighs nothing. The 88 to 94 cavaliers have the best body style and IMO its a pretty little car.
Love seeing the old gm fwd. the old 60° mpi motors were awesome. I had a high 12sec Beretta.
I'd rather modify a Cavalier or a Sunfire than a Honda Civic, since too many people already do all sorts of shit with Civics.
this not showing the engine bay thing is starting to get annoying.
whats to see, it's a turbocharged 3.5 liter V6
Yeah kyle wtf.
Adam olson some owners just request there engines not to be shown
Not everyone requests not to show the engine. None of their recent videos have shown engines. It seems like they are more concerned with the stickers on the car than what's under the hood.
.17 seconds you can see the motor .. Turbo on the drivers side
That thing will catch so many guys off guard on the street
I had a 94 V6 Cavi. I loved it. Pretty decent torque
I wish I kept my '92 Cav. I loved that car. Very dependable!
People always told me these z24s were pretty good on streets back in the 90s, well done!
i notice the front head lights on the cavi kinda resemble head lights on the foxbody stang except the cavs are trimmed more narrow or thinner
I love grass roots shit. That was cool.
Man that Cavy was gettin it!Sweet build!
My first car was a 86 cavalier z24 with a 2.8 4 speed. Still have it
Roy Sancho it's the square one. rare and very valuable. keep it
Thats the first year they had the z24. Keep that thing.
How much do you want for it my aunt had one and I liked that car.
As a Sunbird owner keep it
I still have a early 90's 2 Doors Cavalier RS with the 3.1L OHV V6, basically a barebone Z24, no body kit, same power train.
This is kind of cant believe it moment. My first car that i owned was a 92 z24 i bought it with 57k miles on it and drove it til 226k. My second car that i bought was a 5th gen 2001 Prelude that i drove to 205k and sold it last year. This brings memories. Thanks for making this clip.
To those saying there's "no aftermarket" for these engines...you have no clue.
This is literally the LS1 of pushrod GM 60 degree V6's. I have no doubt he could bump to 30psi as there were a lot of forged internals in the 3.5l
100% lots of stuff, rods, pistons, cams, roller valvetrain. Later engines had roller camshafts. Heads accept off the shelf stainless steel valves with some minor reworking not expensive at all. There even off the shelf headers available for it. Most people just don't realize the potential, fits in lots of chassis too. I think a 3.5L Turbo Camaro was at Drag Week this year.
And the nice thing is that the 3500 bolts in place of the earlier 3100/3400 with very little modification except for the external crank trigger setup and some differing sensor locations. The 3100/3400 ECU's will even accept and run the 3500, although it's best to reflash.
The aftermarket has always been pretty strong for these engines if you knew where to look and the 3500 just continues the tradition. I'd be a little curious to see how much the block itself can take though.
Yella Terra 👍 Company in Australia, they make Whipple supercharger kits for the L67 3800.
Sweet, brought back some memories of my 88 z24. It was stock, but so much fun to drive.
This has to be his fun car and doesn't want to hurt it. He said he bracket races it. Keeping the tune a little weak, and still going through the 3 speed auto.
Props to 1320 for featuring so many angles and drivers all in one event.
I actually really like this car a lot. Will always have a soft spot for older body style cavys.
I wonder if he went to/ ordered his setup from milzy motorsport here in Ohio
I had a 86 z24 caviler with the v6 even without turbo it still hauled ass. It was heavy in the front so had to change the front rubber engine mounts. They would usually break the rubber apart from the mount
Lol could have gone with straight metal mounts
@@mikepro-ww5fg yes could have
Dude looks super humble. Him and his GF all smiles. Makes me feel fuzzy inside. Enough of the sentimental shit. Where's my fucking beer!
If you're going to have people shoot videos for 1320 at least tell them to shut up and show the car and the engine. This guys interviews make me cringe it's so painful.
Don't be a little bitch nobody cares if you cringe
Apparently,so far 16 people DO care that he cringes. XD
👉+Capt Trdl 👈
Oookayyy creepy fuck
Is that a red Javelin in the background @ 3:10? Or is that a Chevelle maybe? i can't tell.
had a 1990 z24 3.1 v6 bone stock went 16.12 85mph neat little car
A 2.5in exhaust will get you out of the 16's on that car. :)
I had flashbacks when I saw the 3.1 badge of changing the water pump and intake manifold gasket
Gonna put a turbocharged 3800SFI in a cavalier pretty soon here. Glad to see that these cars aren't completely dead.
Dude interviewed him several times and never got an engine bay view. Even when he was standing right next to the damn thing with the hood wide open.
My first car was a '92 z24, and it was a fun car to drive
I still have my early 90's Cavalier RS 2 Doors, 3.1L V6 OHV-MPFI, it's currently got approx 173,000 KMS. and kept it stock.
Needs a paint job and some rust repairs, hope to do that when the virus quarantine is finished.
Very cool 👍
I like his shirt...
Those cavaliers with the v6 were sketchy under full accel. Torque steer due to unequal c/v shaft length.
I always called them contra cars, because driving them was like up down up down left right left right b a b a select select start, and by then it was pretty much a straight line, doing well over 90 on the on ramp.
I had one of those back in the day! Back then that car was so nice looking.
I would love to see more of the Cavalier
Im glad to see one of these survive and tearing it up
Cool, we saw the Omni yesterday, and now (almost) the rest of the story with the Cavalier! Great job 1320!
0:45 lol that face says it all
Some people love to do crazy $#!+ to unsuspecting cars because it's fun. If there's very little aftermarket support, it's a challenge to figure out what works. I have more respect for people who do this, than those who just buy a ton of off-the-shelf parts that everyone else has to fit in. Those of us who have these cars get creative because we are. Copy and paste is the easy way out. --> 91 Z-24 3.1 MT5 FWD -stock. If I didn't improve that, I didn't do it right.
I have a lot of good memories of that car. My buddy had one. Same color&trim.
Is it newer GM 3.5 liter V6 or is it a stock engine bored and/ or stroked to 3.5l??? Just wondering because if it's a newer 3.5l (2004-2010) , I was wondering what supporting mods u did to it to take the turbo power??
BAD ASS CAR I am also very happy you said up a Cavalier I had a Sunbird of that year I miss that car.... A+ build next a alcohol /water injection system & more boost.
"Did up a Cavalier" God I hate spell check.
I got a '84 Cavalier and it looks way more retro than that. Im only pulling 80 hp on a good day though lol
I've always wanted to convert the Z34 to rear wheel drive when I was growing up.
It can be done, you will need to do tons of work on it, starting with relocating the engine, transmission, and other parts needed to make it work.
It's going to be easier if you can find the Pontiac Fiero, and you probably will have to modify parts here and there, and install it into the Z34.
That civic was probably 500+ pounds lighter
Pretty sure it’s the same cavalier from you’re video in 2012 called Zo6 vs Cavalier??? (And more) , same color roll cage and steering wheel.
I'm assuming there is some secret underneath fwd hoods at this event, because we couldn't see the Omnis motor neither.
I had one of these in high school. Red, 5 speed, z28. it was fun.
Good job, nice Cavalier!👍🏽👍🏽
Two oddball cars battling it out. Omni vs Cavelier
Is it the 3.5 High Value motor from the mid 2000s Impalas and Malibu or something else?
My brother had a white one that looked just like that one, back in high school. It had the 2.8 in it and we thought it was fast back then lol.
That caliber was like not even going to waste the fuel
Are you running custom axles
Is this the same cavalier from your video 2 years ago titled “Z06 vs Cavalier????” It looks very similar, besides tires and driver of course.
+1maxsor1 yup!!
Pretty sick car. Usually when you see one of these the driver smokes with the windows up and doesn’t use turn signals
Hey! That's my uncle! 🤣
Great guys at 1320. So kind you could pass for Canadian.
Did he say 2.5 liter V6 ?
They cane with a 2.8 .
If be did say 2.5 liter V6 what exactly is the basic engine in there ?
This was my first car. Wild!
why are you not showing the eng bay? what is the big secret?
they do show the motor quick at the beginning. its an old school 2.8!
I drove z24 cavalier same color in high school but I wish mine had been turbo lol. Still was a peppy car tho. Did many neutral drops white smoking the front tires lol
Is this the one that was on a cash days race? I swear I've seen one like this on a 1320 video
That cavalier EATS.
wonder what kind of transmission its running. Since its an auto
Allende NL that's easy, it's running an automatic transmission duh
The auto transmissions in FWD GM cars of this era were absolute junk. This guy has bigger balls than I thought.
Alru smart ass
Tim Weis well I mean an auto trans fwd holding that much power
probably a built 4T65
Ah I was expecting the Vauxhall lol.. thought it looked different in the thumbnail 😂 knew my memory wasn’t that bad from when I had one years ago
I love Gm v6 engines 2.8 to 3.8 even the fwd 3x00 to 3500 engines.can make fun power. The 2.8 and 3.4 are interchangeable , you can put the fwd aluminum heads on those engines. I want to build one just to piss off someone but tuning is a big concern. I read a lot guys just use mega squirt but it’s always more too it . Nice vid by the way
That's exactly why I'm looking into them now, to piss people off 😂
There's just something I dig about FWD V6.
I wish they said the year it was I used to own one of these mine was a dark blue one that was a 94 i gotta say I miss that car
What year is the Cavalier
How would I go about turbocharging my '91 RS V6 Convertible?
Cartuning.ca makes turbo kits
I had one same color and everything minus the turbo!! 😁
no engine shot?
Is this the same cavalier that was in one of 1320's old videos????
Who cares if you’re fucking first just enjoy the damn video
Takumi Fujiwara ikr
You care, obviously.
I guess your not compentative.
If you're not last probably was ford
Takumi Fujiwara, chill man chill and also why are u here? Aren't u supposed to race today?
My home boy had a z24 they come from the factory running good
They don't run that good. Problem was gearing and the fact that GM didn't put a strong V6 into those things. The car with a V6 was heavier too.
Anthony Thomas wrong I had a 92 Z24 turbo and it ran like a top no problems....don't know what your talking about...3.1L 90° V6.
The Z24 never came with a turbo 3.1L. Also the GM 3.1L / 3100 is not a 90 degree V6. It's a 60 degree V6. The Z24 had between 135HP and 140HP depending on the year. That's not exactly fast...not even at the time.
Loren Husky V6Z24.Com and it shows how much you know about them....and yes they came in turbo but very few were made....read the website and learn a few things before sounding stupid....
It's funny you say that because I clicked on your link and it confirmed exactly what I said. The 3100 Turbo was never put in the Cavalier. It was an ASC Mclaren 3100 engine and it was put in the Pontiac Grand Prix Turbo from 1989 to 1990 which I already knew. Also you'll find on your link if you bother to read that the 3100 turbo was a 60 degree V6, as you'll see I said above before you called me stupid. Here is a direct quote from www.v6z24.com/specs/31turbo "Unfortunately, this engine never made it into a J-body. It was only used for two years, in the 1989 and 1990 Pontiac Grand Prix TGP."
So if yours had a 3.1L Turbo, it was either aftermarket turbocharged, or engine swapped from the Pontiac.
Any questions?
i have this same year i’m thinking about dropping a turbo in it
Where's the picture of the motor?!
Probably a Oldsmobile intrigue 3.5 engine i just did a waterpump job on one it sucked lol
All right i can't wait for this race
I'm pretty sure this car has been on 1320 once before, the video is titled "Z06 vs Cavalier???"
They both have a blue cage too
I spent the entirety of my teenage years inside that generation of Chevy Cavalier while growing up near Lordstown, Ohio.
Anyone know why he picked 1320 for the channel name
Wow that first run I thought for a second I was watching the first fast and furious lol
I had an 88 z24 , miss it so much
I love the car I had one who didn't never had no civic that's for sure!
That's is a Badass build love the car props💪🔥💯
Nice build great footage
You guys recorded this cavi and uploaded it in November 2nd 2012
Hey, I've been wondering for a while if you guys are going to upload a video of Larry Larson at Outlaw Armageddon?
Show the motor setup
well god damn!! thats what my engines capable of?!
My favorite cavaliers of all of them
It's back!!!! The sleeper
I have ALWAYS wanted a 91 cavalier
Props for originality
Which 3.5 ?
This car was shown in 1320 back in 2012 check it out.