FIRST TIME WATCHING *DUNE PART TWO*
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Dune was first books, these books are older then star wars.
Yup 60’s vs 70’s
You make it sound like these book older than the star
@@_NguyenHuuong then star?? It says star wars.
@@_NguyenHuuong yes - the first Dune book was published in the 1960's. Star Wars came out in 1977. Dune came first.
Seeing this in theaters was a religious experience.
I locked in when Paul started riding that big worm with that music. So good.
Please go see it in theaters if you can; it's totally worth it.
I saw this in theaters high as fuck on psychedelics. Truly a religious experience for me.
Only time in my life I've seen a movie twice in cinema
dune book 1: 1965; dune messiah (book 2): 1969; children of dune (book 3): 1976; god emperor of dune (book 4): 1981; heretics of dune (book 5): 1984; chapterhouse - dune (book 6): 1985 // star wars a new hope: 1977; empire strikes back: 1980; return of the jedi: 1983
The reason Paul's mother seems a bit unhinged after drinking the blue poison, is because she was trained how to transform poison into something safe, but she was NOT trained to deal with having hundreds of generations of other women's memories dumped into her mind all at once. That takes years of experience and intense training, and she wasn't ready yet. But, there was no other practical choice.
That's also why all the others freaked out when they realized she's pregnant...because the baby just got the same memory dump, but has obviously had NO training at all. Which is, just as obviously, wildly fucking dangerous in a huge number of ways.
Star Wars first came out in 1977 and the first dune book come out in 1965. So Dune actually was made before Star Wars. 1:58
Lucas definitely ripped off Dune to make Star Wars. There's so many similarities, and he's a Dune fan.
"I appreciate the respect"... I don't think "may your blade chip and shatter" is a respectful sentiment lol
I take it as similar to “break a leg” In show business
Wish Denis explained the lasers more because it makes the battles even better. Gotta take out shielded things first so you can use your lasers since laser + shield = nuke
I feel like that exact tech reaction is really dangerous in their world. Top off my head, it allows for kamikaze attacks. Sneak someone into enemy compound with a shield and laser gun, nuke your enemies. Or if there's somebody just crazy enough to do that midst battle, then both parties are screwed. Such a volatile technology that can allow so many unpredictable stuff to happen at anytime.
@@Banana_John not really its only a chance that it can occur and it can happen on both ends of the laser
@@hardiness9363 It being a chance still can allow kamikaze tactic. Just keep shooting your own shield until it happens, now you've taken out an entire enemy compound by sacrificing one infiltrator.
It happening on both ends of the laser doesn't make it any less volatile, does it? Like i said, it takes one combatant being crazy/stupid enough to do it, now everyone in the area are screwed.
That intro, in both movies, shut the whole audience down instantly. Whole theater went from chatting and rustling of snacks to dead silence in barely a second.
the birds are effectively homing pigeons, used to carry messages, so its not that weird that they killed them
with the last duel paul can't see the result, because feyd is a possible kwisatz haderach.
When Paul talks to his mother after drinking the water of life there’s a brief glimpse of him stabbing Feyd. So he at least has a vision of how he could potentially win. I actually didn’t notice it on my 1st watch because of how quick the cut was.
And you know it how? To me it felt like he knew how the battle is going to play out. Is it explained in the books?
@@Ybereza69 it's from the book, he also can't directly see guild navigators in his visions
Stop comparing Star Wars to Dune... one is a simple, lighthearted Sci Fi tale, and the other is a complex one filled with deep themes.
Oh yeah bc stars wars has 0 deep thèmes 🙄
And If one one is a tale by def its dune
Yeah and one is the biggest franchise in the world and the other is not
@LeMn680 I don't think you realize that star wars would never exist if it wasn't for dune 😭
@@LeMn680 Star Wars is shit for kids
@@laurine____7543evil is evil and good is good and friendship and love will overcome everything is not that deep, kid
paul really moves with his emotions so im suprised he didnt kill the emperor outta that
Bene gesserit training allows him to have complete control over his impulses, like a human.
Bene gesserit training allows him to have complete control over his impulses, like a human.
@@atreideskkjthey say that but in the books the bene Gesserit characters are highly emotional often and the me that’s pretty often don’t seem to show clear perfection and analytical abilities.
Not hating on Herbert, just saying.
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Control over emotions doesn't mean not having emotions. It means being able to exert control _over_ them. They're still human internally, it's simply externally that they do not display what they don't want to display.
I never watched the first movie til I saw ur reaction, but I got to watch the second one in theatres and I love it!
George Lucas was a fan of the book Dune(1965) and took some inspiration from it to create Star Wars(1977).
"some" loool
@@whitephoenixofthecrown2099 I was trying not to piss off either fanbase. So maybe I should say “quite a bit”. To me George Lucas is a great creative filmmaker. He took inspiration from Dune but in my opinion what took he made it his own.
@@halohalo929 Agreed. The building blocks of Anakin specifically (desert, "chosen one" except not really the same since Anakin actually was the chosen one, etc) are pretty clearly from Dune, but that's about where the similarities end
@@IrrelevantPerson I think the Baron was also a bit of inspiration for Jaba and the Voice/Bene Gesuit for the Force/Jedi/Sith
@@halohalo929 Whoops lol yeah those too
Y’all are quick with these!
What Dune means for sci-fi is the same thing as what LOTR means for fantasy^^
yes, remember this story, 6 books, had been written between 1963 and 1985. I read them in the eighties, and several times after. So i know this story. The two movies are only the first book. Star wars is from 1977, it had been inspired , for some parts, by the Dune books
paul has the memories of both sides of his family line back to the first humans, that is likely to have an effect. and make dinner the the parents a tad awkward ;)
You guys gotta see it on the biggest screen you there is. Before its taken down
I hate it that 99% of the reaction channels watch movies and shows from 24" monitor or from 16" laptop
I had 55" tv like 20 years ago, you are making thousands on patreon, invest the money and buy surround systems on +80" OLED
That sound at the beginning is a language... its the language of the saurdukar, the emperor's army
Honestly...there's a lot of inconsistency in the idea of the Emperor's attitude toward the Atreides, but then having them exterminated, all while claiming that he's somehow a kind of mastermind for it.
Spice (or anything else) doesn't actually grant true immortality in Dune. The closest anyone gets are the Tleilaxu Gholas (basically a type of clone), which can be made very accurately, even with memories in some cases.
But the fact is, everyone eventually dies, and Shaddam IV, (Chris Walken) is very much nearing the end of his life. He has no sons, and his daughters can't actually be Empress. It's a patriarchal system. No matter what, he was always going to have to marry them off to other Great Houses, and then choose one of their husbands to be his successor. Or...adopt some boy and choose him as the successor.
No matter what though, the next Emperor was never going to be a Corrino. Period. BUT, the Corrino line would continue on, through one of his daughters and her husband, so that the Emperor AFTER that husband WOULD be a Corrino, and the dynasty would continue.
I doubt a Ghola of Shaddam would've been allowed to rule, partly because Gholas aren't considered people, as I understand it, and because then it would get way too close to stepping on the toes of Foundation and its Genetic Dynasty of Cleon.
So...why in the nine fucks, if Shaddam loved Leto so much, and the Atreides were rising to power so thoroughly, didn't he just offer one of his daughters to Leto? Shaddam mentions that Leto was "weak," but even then, he could've just chosen Paul instead, and given him Irulan. Paul could've gone to live in the palace and learned to rule from Shaddam himself...while Leto rules Arrakis and is basically permanently under Shaddam's thumb because he's holding Paul hostage. The emperor would've had a full grip on Arrakis, a strong heir to take his place, and would've enjoyed considerable boosts to his own popularity among the Landsraad.
Atreides troops, pound for pound, are second only to the Fremen. Even the Sardaukar can only match them, at most. In any 1v1 fight, the average Atreides soldier beats the average Sardaukar. The Harkonnens won the fight only because of surprise, numbers (because of the Sardaukar), and sheer brutality. In any balanced battle otherwise, they lost, every time.
Shaddam's plan as it is, doesn't actually get him anything. He's not gonna let Feyd be Emperor, because he'd destroy the empire in no time. The Landsraad would immediately rebel at the announcement...because they know how Feyd would rule. None of the other houses would be able to cement power as thoroughly, because none of them have the kind of power that the Atreides or Harkonnen have. Maybe Vernius of Ix could compete, but their popularity doesn't match their power. No one really loves them, and no one really fears them...and they're constantly skating on thin ice because of how they play fast and loose with the prohibition against AI.
With the plan in the book...Shaddam really gains absolutely nothing at all of practical value.
While, with the plan I proposed...he'd gain everything he's after, with less effort, less risk, and more security.
Honestly, it's just mind-bogglingly stupid.
The imperial family would then be Atreides. The Corrino name would not be used again. Or the Atreides could easily just overrule any attempt to instate it on their sons.
Shadam is selfish. He's not all that old at all either, geriatric spice means he still has at least twice as much life left to live. He's physically 35. He preserves his throne for himself for the time being. He may yet have sons.
As for Leto, Shadam explicitly wishes he could have married Irulan to him. But there are two issues, he's quite old for her, but this wouldn't be a big issue. The real problem is Leto had a son at the same time Irulan was born. This is a catastrophic threat. Leto's marriage to Irulan would never replace his true love that all know to be Jessica, for she holds the title of Lady. So his loyalties would always be elsewhere. Furthermore his first born son would always take precedent for him. He is not considered illegitimate.
Finally, the Harkonnens. They have no part in his plans. His goal was to wipe out the Atreides and the threat of them unifying the Landsraad against him. As I have explained he cannot truly make an alliance with them, and he certainly cannot let them overpower him (btw only a few legions trained by Duncan and Gurney where "within a hairs width ofnthr Sardaukar" so not even quite as good, nor numerous). His other goal was actually also to bankrupt the Harkonnens. It took them the entirety of 80 years of profit to finance their single attack on the Atreides. They have nothing left. Their power is gone. They suckle on the Emperor's teat by receiving Arrakis, and will need to be obedient for centuries to regain the wealth thus power to challenge his wealth again. Furthermore, they would need even more wealth to challenge him and his Sardaukar in battle.
@@pseudonymousbeing987 Goddamn I hate fuckin' fanboys...
Firstly...that's not how succession works, especially in a patrimonial hereditary system. Had Shaddam done what I suggested, Paul would've taken the Corrino name, not the other way around. Shaddam would functionally "adopt" him as he married Irulan, and the Corrino line would live on through their children.
The only times where that's not the case, are basically what Paul ultimately did in the book anyway.
Yes...Shaddam is selfish. But he's not supposed to be fucking retarded. There's no way out of his predicament. He's GOING to die, and he MUST choose an heir, since he has no sons for the purpose. If he had an OUNCE of fucking brains, he'd pick Paul as the ideal option. He can dislike it all he wants, but if he's even slightly intelligent, it's obvious to do it that way.
It could be that the Guild and BG manipulated him into that (and to some extent, they did), but all that really means is that the Guild and BG are even bigger fucking morons. They ruined their careful breeding program with the shit.
Which...leads me to another concern...why Paul at all? Fine, Leto wanted a son and Jessica thought she could bring the KH about now. But so fuckin' what? BG sisters can control if they get pregnant, and with what. She could've had a girl or two for the Order, and then had Paul for her own reasons. Or the other way around. Why wait a decade and a half to finally have a girl? Fuck...she could've had fraternal twins for crying out loud. It's goddamn stupid. It's so illogical that it's fucking painful.
Your grasp of politics is simplistic at best, and deranged at worst.
Well, in the second book people have to respect Irulan as a Bene Gesserit but behind closed doors they point out how she always misses the most obvious things and that she's actually not that great as a Bene Gesserit. Honestly, I think the Corrinos in general weren't the brightest lol
I love this reaction! You guys were absolutely laser focused.
Stilgar is my favorite character.
Nah, bros, it WAS like that, the Baron is the ultimate creepy uncle and Feyd is just as twisted
The first movie was anything BUT amazing... but that one sure is a damn fine upgrade.
Paul: There's something behind your ear, Stilgar... it's a coin."
Stilgar: Lisan al-Gaib!
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just for added context on the Gurney vs Rabban fight at the end, yeh it's that easy, Rabban while a chonk is mostly an oppressor and leads through brute force and fear, Gurney is one of if not the greatest fighter in the duniverse even duncan idaho (who is probably the second best in the setting and most people in the duniverse think is the greatest fighter) also admits that in out of 10 fights Gurney would win 7 of them, Gurney is a Force of Nature that Leto Atreides paid handsomly to employ to train the atreides troops
2:09 The original Star Wars trilogy was in 1977, 1980 & 1983. The Dune novels were written, I think, in the late 60s. George Lucas borrowed a load of things from Dune for Star Wars.
Dune is far more complex than Star wars. Star wars is a classic fairy tail with obvious Good and evil, Dune isn't.
The deepest where star wars got was with Andor with all the believable politics and the logistics of it
Mafia gangsters used to kiss men on the mouth when they were going to kill them or promote them. It was a great Godfather call back
Y'all should watch the 1984 Dune movie
Remember the first "Silence" from Part 1
Not the movie the book. The book came out in 1965 not talking about movie adaptations of a book but the book itself that came out in 1965
The next book isn't as action packed as the climax of this one. (But maybe Villeneuve will visualise parts of the actual war?).
Dune Messiah: People in rooms talking. Plotting. Scheming. But my *word* is is compelling! 🔥🔥😅 There *is* other smaller action at points. And I love how it ends too
If you thought the first couple seconds should have been mixed into a song...you gotta check out Ummet Ozcan, the beat goes.
EDM music with throat singing...fire AF
You'll definitely have to watch Lord of the Rings. Until Dune, I think it was easily the best fantasy series
Movie was so fye🔥
how people root for a dark mesiah or false mesiah.
the irony in our society today
I recommend watching the «Jurassic Park» and «Jurassic World» trilogy of movies.🔥🔥🔥
the vision was of Chani stabbing Paul. Not Feyd.
At start of movie Paul : im not that guy
Paul after drinking the blue piss : Im the Main Protagonist y'all
You guys have to start your Marvel journey in order!
Sees dune react -> click video -> sees almost 15% dislike ratio -> yeah not watching
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42:46 & 42:57
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LISAN AL GAIB 🙌🔥🍻
As many will say While U,s wait! Read the books 1-6, at least 1-3 (Which the Director plans to make.) for the Better and Best Understanding - Man-Solo Out !!!
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You should react to SAALAR movie you have already react to the trailer before
Written in 1965.
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Where's Godzilla vs Kong? 😭
Silenceeeee
Paul is Eren Yeager
The Dune books came out in the 1960s and influenced a lot of later science fiction, so it's more accurate to say that Eren Yeager is Paul.
@@isoldam Eren is a much more widely recognized character, so his comparison makes more sense.
@@anhkriva5274 Recognized or not, Paul came first. And despite the popularity of AoT, Dune has been around longer and has built a larger fanbase.
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