Illegal LEGO Techniques

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  • People called my builds illegal... I took it personally and made this video!
    And for the record, I should know a thing or two about the subject since I was a former designer and some point in my life.
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  • @TiagoCatarino
    @TiagoCatarino  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4198

    SUBSCRIBING is legal
    Buy LEGO to support the channel ❯ bit.ly/48N1nd5

    • @rafibarker5064
      @rafibarker5064 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Keep up the amazing quality videos. 👏👌👍😊

    • @VeryTastySoup87
      @VeryTastySoup87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I did!

    • @joeleboeuf
      @joeleboeuf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Now THAT is an absolutely educational video on what not to do with Lego bricks.

    • @MiniTank08
      @MiniTank08 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      last time i checked it wasnt

    • @williambelleza108
      @williambelleza108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Really enjoyed that one, including your clear anger about the illegal thing 😁

  • @thesmoker4027
    @thesmoker4027 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5881

    You know you made a terrible mistake when the lego engineer tells you “this is personal”

    • @melvinhotdogman6926
      @melvinhotdogman6926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      When he said that I felt sad :(

    • @ev6558
      @ev6558 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      This man Legos like a boss.

    • @__-ic7si
      @__-ic7si 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      When any engineer tells you "this is personal" you've screwed up.

    • @Koichi-
      @Koichi- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Imagine it’s your first day at the job.

    • @buggr
      @buggr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@__-ic7si Either you have done something wrong, or if you are not the subject of things becoming personal, you are being warned that a workshop is about to explode a little bit while they sort out what object has them upset.
      Source: My father in law is an engineer.

  • @CountDoucheula
    @CountDoucheula 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4155

    I like how they're so precise on their measurements and dimensions, all the time not realising the Legos are going straight in my mouth.

    • @Elias-ry7ri
      @Elias-ry7ri 2 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      NOM

    • @BeHappyTo
      @BeHappyTo ปีที่แล้ว +83

      that lego piece you ate was under grandmas feet

    • @juno_dawn
      @juno_dawn ปีที่แล้ว +129

      @@BeHappyTo extra flavour

    • @happysheepslimes9090
      @happysheepslimes9090 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@juno_dawn MMMM, LOVE CURSED COMMENTS

    • @long.bird.
      @long.bird. ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@juno_dawn feet crust seasoning

  • @Taikamuna
    @Taikamuna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +503

    "So, how did you end up in jail?"
    Me: Illegal Lego builds

    • @Voided-YT
      @Voided-YT ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh hello.

    • @bigpapi5343
      @bigpapi5343 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      *Scoots away*

    • @MyPhobo
      @MyPhobo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bigpapi5343lol

    • @onebadgloop4514
      @onebadgloop4514 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hey it the guy from trackmania

    • @jefflukaszyk5970
      @jefflukaszyk5970 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It would be hilarious in-joke if they put that in some lego movie...

  • @thomasjeppesen3055
    @thomasjeppesen3055 ปีที่แล้ว +287

    You just answered two huge questions from my childhood (why they redesigned the clip piece and 1x1 cone piece) and I am thankful for the closure it provided me.

    • @zestyfg
      @zestyfg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I was one of the kids who pushed in that old cone as hard as I could. It felt satisfying.

    • @jenelle5331
      @jenelle5331 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't like the new clips. They break too easily.

  • @SHYTIMEismyTIME
    @SHYTIMEismyTIME 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6242

    Now that is the proper dictionary definition needed to be said about what an "Illegal" technique is. Thanks for the lesson!

    • @hoarder66
      @hoarder66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Agreed

    • @cyanimation1605
      @cyanimation1605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      yes yes. Things that stress me out are illegal.
      mention a former US president? Go to jail. tell me to work on my taxes? right to jail. remind me Velika's a great being? jail.

    • @taqresu5865
      @taqresu5865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@cyanimation1605 lol as a Bionicle fan, that last one really cracked me up lol

    • @NorthGaReptile
      @NorthGaReptile 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Agreed. I've seen quite a few comments about connections being illegal on other posts and I'm always like "Whaaa..?"
      I was starting to think that there was some kind of Lego community that made certain types of connections invalid, but this video cleared that up.
      A connection that doesn't stress a brick = legal
      A connection that stresses a brick = illegal

    • @guntersiegfried7460
      @guntersiegfried7460 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@NorthGaReptile but doesnt the pressed connection in itself stress the parts - of course they do! So this is a highly lawyery acedemic discussion that in itself destroyes and stresses our connection as humans.
      Yesterday a had some lego bricks from 1940/50s without cross support - we played and used cross plattform connections all the time - "press it ,until it holds" wood to plastic/metal whatever, i couldnt make out one broken brick! So what they hell - i am not building actual houses/hospitals out of lego bricks.

  • @Yourboss3382
    @Yourboss3382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1962

    I'm glad you are explaining the reasons behind the rules because some people will just give a list of ways no to build and thats a little annoying

    • @TiagoCatarino
      @TiagoCatarino  2 ปีที่แล้ว +135

      I try!

    • @orion7741
      @orion7741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      but there are no rules when it comes to LEGO. anybody that says there are rules is a communist.

    • @NoNameAtAll2
      @NoNameAtAll2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@orion7741 why communist?

    • @NuclearRaven13
      @NuclearRaven13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@NoNameAtAll2
      Because by saying "communist" he too can politicalize fu*cking legos.

    • @Flamebeard0815
      @Flamebeard0815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@orion7741 So... you're an anti-LEGO-communist LEGO-anarchist? That's new.

  • @jacoboreilly2496
    @jacoboreilly2496 ปีที่แล้ว +527

    I thought "illegal Lego techniques" was just a meme for any builds that were unusual, didn't know it was an actual thing!

    • @stemen1162
      @stemen1162 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      There's not actual laws against it brother

    • @jay_344
      @jay_344 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      i think this is more of definition games. i’d think illegal building means any block combination that isn’t in the meta, which itself would be very fluid and hard to define

    • @cjperkinsboy1293
      @cjperkinsboy1293 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      @@jay_344nah it means any technique that can put strain on the pieces

    • @tacokoneko
      @tacokoneko 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      technically it means the QA guidelines sets go through before LEGO ships them, but sometimes there have been illegal techniques in official sets that were accidental

    • @TheLumberjack1987
      @TheLumberjack1987 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      in Denmark you go straight to jail if they find any of those in the annual lego inspection

  • @SkinnerNoah
    @SkinnerNoah ปีที่แล้ว +30

    For me, illegal techniques are usually a last resort when I can't figure out how to build something normally.
    I don't have a massive collection so I can't be too reckless with my bricks

  • @jesustyronechrist2330
    @jesustyronechrist2330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2536

    There's a difference between a build being "illegal" and a build being "cursed"

    • @chrislarson9504
      @chrislarson9504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      illegal is the proper term. but i guess cursed is the genZ word for it that can work

    • @theseveredheadofjohnthebap7322
      @theseveredheadofjohnthebap7322 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a lego spaceship I built that is so illegal it's actually cursed. I used lego, lego tech, and MegaConstrux. No one can touch it because there's a very specific way of handling it, otherwise it will start to fall apart.

    • @aidancb910
      @aidancb910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +309

      @@chrislarson9504 2 different things bruh. That wheel thing he made is cursed but not illegal. Cursed is like bruh what the hell have u done with that lego. Illegal is a stress thing.

    • @visassess8607
      @visassess8607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@aidancb910 Cursed doesn't fit in the context of any of these Lego builds though

    • @hexagon8899
      @hexagon8899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +140

      @@visassess8607 “cursed” has kinda gotten a new meaning a few years ago, and it basically just now means “extremely fucking weird”

  • @Demonskunk
    @Demonskunk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1606

    It's really interesting to learn that the Lego designers are actually modifying pieces to be more versatile and durable.

    • @Einheit101
      @Einheit101 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Then why is the LEGO Logo still outside, increasing the height by 0,1mm and why are the holes of these technic bricks still 0,05mm misaligned and why do technic bricks not have inside groves so you can put half pins inside them? 🥲

    • @MakenaForest
      @MakenaForest ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Einheit101 the lego logo is there to identify it as a lego brand brick

    • @Einheit101
      @Einheit101 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@MakenaForest they could sink it in instead

    • @MrHanBrolo
      @MrHanBrolo ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Einheit101 that would weaken the stud

    • @Kodaiva
      @Kodaiva ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Einheit101 because these are all intended parts of the pieces?

  • @pulsarbeam3857
    @pulsarbeam3857 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The conflicts with technique brick seems like more of a design oversight when the molds were introduced

    • @GarryDumblowski
      @GarryDumblowski 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The technic bricks have holes that are slightly higher than the SNOT bricks because if the holes were the same height with the thickness they have, they wouldn't be able to fit on top of a standard Lego brick with the logo on the studs. Either way, there's some incompatibility between technic and standard bricks, and Lego simply chose the one less likely to cause problems.

    • @sinteleon
      @sinteleon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GarryDumblowski Then maybe the snot bricks should be the one redesigned. :P

  • @greatbrandini3967
    @greatbrandini3967 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As a kid, I used to love building Lego Star Wars sets 90's-00's. I recently bought the collector's Star Destroyer and was baffled when I was instructed to put the 2X1 flat piece inside the little clips, as I had always thought that you weren't supposed to do that. Glad I wasn't going crazy lol

  • @AstonishingStudios
    @AstonishingStudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3536

    This thumbnail looked so clickbait, but realizing you uploaded it, I knew I was going to learn something new and surprising by watching it.

    • @TiagoCatarino
      @TiagoCatarino  2 ปีที่แล้ว +134

      Clickbait TH-cam is a thing of the past!

    • @Lokear
      @Lokear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      @@TiagoCatarino If only...

    • @ethandominic-13
      @ethandominic-13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@TiagoCatarino Definitely... I have a dream...

    • @KrotumAlexanderThe500th
      @KrotumAlexanderThe500th 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@TiagoCatarino I wish

    • @KuroKitten
      @KuroKitten 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The thumbnail *was* clickbait, but clickbait isn't inherently good or bad. If the thumbnail gets you to click, and the content of the video is worthwhile, then the clickbait was worthwhile =)

  • @z-beeblebrox
    @z-beeblebrox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +695

    Wow I legitimately thought "that's illegal" comments about weird Lego techniques were jokes I had no idea there was even an official concept of illegality, let alone that people were actually being both sincere and mostly wrong

    • @AlexthePoki
      @AlexthePoki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I thought exactly the same lol

    • @entombedlamb5356
      @entombedlamb5356 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I am not the resident expert on Lego builds, but your TH-cam comment is definitely 'Illegal'. Its spelled 'their', I fixed it for you...

    • @z-beeblebrox
      @z-beeblebrox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@entombedlamb5356 Uh no, "there" is correct. "Their" is possessive. "Their illegal Legos are there." not the other way around.

    • @thesilverbeluga8539
      @thesilverbeluga8539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@z-beeblebrox He also, ironically, used the wrong "it's"

    • @z-beeblebrox
      @z-beeblebrox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thesilverbeluga8539 That's true but I'll give it a pass since personally I'd like to see the apostrophe phased out of "it's". I think it's an unnecessary distinction.

  • @peteranon8455
    @peteranon8455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When I was a kid, I was very offended when my cousin spray painted a Lego project. Somehow I'm glad that other people take this stuff personally.

  • @budthecyborg4575
    @budthecyborg4575 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Crazy thing is the official LEGO instructions often use damaging connections, as I can attest by the numerous broken bricks in my tubs.

  • @laeamminlakana-matt5692
    @laeamminlakana-matt5692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +524

    "Is this legal?"
    Lego engineers modifying bricks, summoning their best Darth Sidious voice: "I will make it legal"

    • @joet3935
      @joet3935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Some consider my technique.... UnNatural.

    • @cookiecreeperplayz
      @cookiecreeperplayz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      The CAD software of lego is a pathway to many pieces some may consider legal.

    • @pef_v6107
      @pef_v6107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The dark side of the LEGO leads to many building techniques some consider to be... unnatural.

    • @thesharklord
      @thesharklord 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      "Where can I learn these building techniques?" "Not from a Lego engineer..."

    • @laeamminlakana-matt5692
      @laeamminlakana-matt5692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thesharklord Jump cut to a 3 year old mashing bricks together, but cut specifically into points where they do something illegal that works

  • @Mackinstyle
    @Mackinstyle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2052

    I think it's important to further clarify that "illegal" is really just "contraindicated in Lego's official manual of how to design sets." Lego couldn't care one bit if people do any of this stuff. There's nothing wrong with it. It's not taboo or special. It's just not good practices for creating sensible, robust, elegant designs.

    • @twakka86
      @twakka86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +204

      This is the comment I was looking for here!! I always get confused when people say illegal builds i always get a picture of police banging down doors at 5 a.m arresting people for misuse of lego🙄 🤣

    • @johnadler6987
      @johnadler6987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@twakka86 Someone should do a skit of this 🤣

    • @RaulDiaz-mp8ms
      @RaulDiaz-mp8ms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Heck if anything they'd encourage it if it meant the customer buys more legos to replace the broken ones.

    • @StormsparkPegasus
      @StormsparkPegasus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@twakka86 It's only an issue because "illegal" can mean two different things in English. Being against the law, ie you can be arrested for it. And just being against competition rules or something. Other languages use different words for these concepts so it's not as much of an issue. English has the same problem with "free". "Free software" doesn't mean what most people think it means, because it doesn't mean "free" as in "no charge".

    • @twakka86
      @twakka86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@StormsparkPegasus err thanks for explaining!?! Kinda already knew the score pal but thanks anyway

  • @BlackringIII
    @BlackringIII ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The wonders we could achieve if the Lego logo was recessed

  • @Kriviach
    @Kriviach ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I had no idea that the technic bricks and bricks with studs on the sides had slightly different heights on their holes and studs respectively, kinda feels like an oversight on legos part ngl, I alos never noticed how flat plates and studded plates are different in thickness, great video man! also that wheel that u showed off towards the end looks cool af

  • @ShinigamiScouse7
    @ShinigamiScouse7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    She: " I love bad boys."
    Him: "I'm an illegal Lego builder."

  • @cth4904
    @cth4904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +477

    I was always so confused about illegal building techniques, now it makes sense illegal techniques stresses out the bricks or can damage them

    • @raphaelnej8387
      @raphaelnej8387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      same
      when i was kid i didn’t understand how people decided the laws
      but when i grew up i had this enlightenment:
      law follows morality

    • @cth4904
      @cth4904 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raphaelnej8387 I really like they way up put that, also very true!

    • @UTU49
      @UTU49 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm really trying to remember how often my brother and I used "illegal techniques" as kids.
      I'm pretty sure we used them a moderate amount -- perhaps somewhat above average. I definitely remember being aware of using the bricks in ways that they were not intended. I definitely remember using bricks in ways that could damage them. If it was POSSIBLE, we would do it. We definitely weren't thinking much about whether a technique was "advisable" or not, in any sense. We were just exercising our creativity.

    • @cth4904
      @cth4904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@UTU49 lego is such a great toy for flexing your creative muscle loved building whatever came to mind building techniques be damned

    • @NZBallBag
      @NZBallBag 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanh goodness. And here I was quickly pulling my lego apart thinking I was going to prison..

  • @maggiejetson7904
    @maggiejetson7904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As an engineer the last time I said "I'll never do anything that is invalid", the QA always find my mistakes.

  • @KingBobXVI
    @KingBobXVI ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Iirc, the newer round pieces have a lip inside them to allow technic pins to expand, so that one is now (sometimes) legal, depending on whether it's the new piece.

  • @puzzLEGO
    @puzzLEGO 2 ปีที่แล้ว +248

    now these are illegal techniques, I'd thought I had seen it all but there was so many things I learnt today

    • @viperlord487
      @viperlord487 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Puzzlego! I'm subbed to you!

  • @Chubbybots
    @Chubbybots 2 ปีที่แล้ว +785

    I am guilty as charged for using so many illegal techniques 😂 that aside, great insight into these techniques coming from your experience as a Lego designer

    • @TiagoCatarino
      @TiagoCatarino  2 ปีที่แล้ว +172

      Somebody arrest this man!!! :P

    • @animefreakjex
      @animefreakjex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I did many illegal techniques as a kid, now I atleast know why it didn't fit back then 😂

    • @JoeKyser
      @JoeKyser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Ah nothing a little glue wont fix lol

    • @rebeccachoice
      @rebeccachoice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@JoeKyser Eeek! Kragl!

    • @JoeKyser
      @JoeKyser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rebeccachoice 😀

  • @coasterblocks3420
    @coasterblocks3420 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Seems like a simple minor redesign of some elements would eliminate some of illegality. For example, making the LEGO logo on studs an “innie” instead of an “outie”, or adjusting the top of the tube of a brick to allow a Technic pin to expand.

  • @refundreplay
    @refundreplay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I have never, in all my casual years of playing with Legos, heard "illegal" used. I have, though, wondered about those very subtle gaps.
    Learned a lot of un-useful information, but I'm happy to have learned it all the same.

    • @Zeroshiki
      @Zeroshiki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same here. As soon as I saw the title, I was like, _"Who tf is out here arresting people for putting Legos together wrong ?"_ Seems like a really bad term for this lol. 💀

    • @Llortnerof
      @Llortnerof ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's because the term is inapplicable. Until Lego starts their own nation, they have no power to declare anything illegal.

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@LlortnerofIllegal in the sense that a chess move is illegal.

    • @Llortnerof
      @Llortnerof 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidwuhrer6704 Nope, still doesn't work. An illegal chess move is one that is against the rules. Rules that the players agree to uphold. Lego has no such rules.

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Llortnerof What nation does chess have that gives it the power to declare something illegal?

  • @Zaximillian
    @Zaximillian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    In our LUG, we say "Technic and System bricks are not friends."
    Not enemies, but not friends.

  • @LucasBuilds
    @LucasBuilds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +230

    My favourite obscure legal connection is a technic pin to the underside of a 1x1 brick with studs on 4 sides. The open studs actually give the pin room to properly expand and move freely, so while it may not be intentional it's not actually stressing anything and is, as such, fully legal! It was even used in an old M-Tron set once.

    • @mikosoft
      @mikosoft 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I'm pretty sure you're talking about Particle ionizer as I have that set at home and if I recall correctly the connection you mentioned was used for the "rotor" part

    • @RadziolM
      @RadziolM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I have it used in 75491 (Indominus set) as a base for the trees.

    • @Zaximillian
      @Zaximillian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One more use for the Travis brick!

    • @intrepidmixedmedia7939
      @intrepidmixedmedia7939 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was also used within the past year in another set, I think it got a mention on New Elementary

    • @jettlucashayes8508
      @jettlucashayes8508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Jesse Mathis exo force: sweats nervously

  • @collinmcadams5983
    @collinmcadams5983 ปีที่แล้ว

    That last gear-like one was actually REALLY cool

  • @Ryaify69
    @Ryaify69 ปีที่แล้ว

    He came out like a boss and didn't let people lie about him

  • @ehhhsteve8582
    @ehhhsteve8582 2 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    “Most of the time” lol.
    Would love to hear a story (if one exists) of an illegal building technique that was caught by LEGO quality control, causing you to redesign in some way.

  • @randallisaeff1876
    @randallisaeff1876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I can't wait to defend the first case where my client is facing charges for "illegal Lego building techniques."

    • @KewAnneOn
      @KewAnneOn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Excellent 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. You know Lego builders must have a pole up their arse if they're saying the wrong brick being used is illegal 😂. Pretty sure no laws are being broken in this video.

    • @archerestarcher
      @archerestarcher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@KewAnneOn it's just the terminology the community uses, they don't actually mean or believe that it's against the law

    • @AnglosArentHuman
      @AnglosArentHuman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KewAnneOn Least spastic Angloid boomer:

  • @phooeyfudge
    @phooeyfudge 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Hey, what are you in for?"
    "Illegal Lego techniques..."

  • @chairya2
    @chairya2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is why i used to hate getting technique sets when i asked for lego’s for my birthday. It always seemed as if the bricks would fit in a certain way with regular lego’s, but then they ended up not fitting.

  • @gmsniperx3623
    @gmsniperx3623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +290

    Before you say something people, think about it. The man was a LEGO designer. He obviously knows more than we do.

    • @WanganTunedKeiCar
      @WanganTunedKeiCar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      _Nah man, I had a box with a bunch of Legos from Goodwill. Them techniques are illegal_

    • @gmsniperx3623
      @gmsniperx3623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@WanganTunedKeiCar What?

    • @Lokear
      @Lokear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@gmsniperx3623 Sarcasm.

    • @gmsniperx3623
      @gmsniperx3623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Lokear Ohh, ok.

    • @gmsniperx3623
      @gmsniperx3623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@princessofthecape2078 I am neither a LEGO nerd nor a designer, so I don't really care about whether something is legal or illegal.

  • @OliverCGoetz
    @OliverCGoetz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +298

    Unfortunately, these days even being an active LEGO designer and being embedded in the design and quality processes at the mothership doesn't seem to be a guarantee that no illegal building techniques make their way into official sets.
    Have you heard about the problem with 76205 Gargantos Showdown? If not, check out the article "Possible design flaw found in 2022 Super Heroes set" over on Brickset.

    • @zippolighter4903
      @zippolighter4903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Was it the Wolverine one?

    • @OliverCGoetz
      @OliverCGoetz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@zippolighter4903 No, the one with Doctor Strange and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

    • @frankiesomeone
      @frankiesomeone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Also the chinese set with the candle illegally clipped to the 1x1 tile with clip

    • @derekchapman2027
      @derekchapman2027 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Yeah that set screams that no one actually physically built the set and they just relied on a computer program

    • @SpykersB
      @SpykersB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Glad u said that Oliver, because I swear I’ve built and wondered if that was what the instructions said, so just knowing ‘it’ happens makes it less questionable when it does occur. 🍻

  • @gabojill19
    @gabojill19 ปีที่แล้ว

    "So I took that personally"
    Kudos

  • @tylerddh
    @tylerddh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy moly, Legos are way more involved than i ever imagined

  • @devikwolf
    @devikwolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    This is a super cool explanation. For instance I never knew why the 1x1 clip was redesigned with arms that - at first glance - made it look less sturdy. Lego Engineers and set designers are really amazing at what they do!

  • @Excellsion
    @Excellsion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    I feel like some of these would take a REALLY LONG TIME to cause damage, though, obviously the official definition doesn't care about how long it would take.

    • @TiagoCatarino
      @TiagoCatarino  2 ปีที่แล้ว +126

      Exactly. The definition is based upon stuff that happens in the real world like kids building a set and leaving it built for years.

    • @WalnutAnimations
      @WalnutAnimations 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@TiagoCatarino little siblings: are you sure about that?

    • @janheikel7751
      @janheikel7751 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@TiagoCatarino I'm pretty sure it's only adult builders who ever leave their lego sets built for more than a few days.

    • @mystic-malevolence
      @mystic-malevolence 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@janheikel7751 idk where you get that assumption, I always tried to keep my sets in one piece as a kid

    • @Mboy245
      @Mboy245 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@janheikel7751 Nope my big brother freehand built (as in it wasn't an actual set) a cathedral and left it built and forbade me fro doing anything with it or too it, much less touch it

  • @bobgade6733
    @bobgade6733 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So wait... You mean my child I'm his room playing with Legos is likely commiting numerous crimes?

  • @Xbob42
    @Xbob42 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I can make it this long under nonstop horrific stress, then my Lego bricks can shut up and do the same.

  • @jjkthebest
    @jjkthebest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    For some of these it seems like they really could've designed them in a way that doesn't make those connections illegal.

    • @coasterblocks3420
      @coasterblocks3420 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Some could still be redesigned with no impact such as changing from a raised logo to a sunken LEGO.
      Others you have to really scratch your head - did LEGO really think people wouldn’t ever mix system with Technic?

  • @Koowluh
    @Koowluh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "What are you in for?"
    "Illegal Lego building techniques."
    "And they didn't send you to the chair? Lucky!"

  • @seb12game9
    @seb12game9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    catarino: "i don't make illegal builds, and as proof i'll make a ton of illegal builds!"

  • @sandervdbrink84
    @sandervdbrink84 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The terms "legal" and "illegal" are so weird for something you can always legally do with your own Lego sets.

    • @SilverEye91
      @SilverEye91 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's pretty obvious what it means to anyone with a brain though.

  • @PlainDiscord
    @PlainDiscord 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    For a long long time I have wanted ot know what Legos actually considers illegal. With your background as a Lego employee, this goes above and beyond explaining why we shouldn't do illegal connections and what is an illegal connection.

  • @wolff000
    @wolff000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +240

    I did all kinds of stuff with my Legos that warped and damaged them. As far as I was concerned this is what they were meant for, playing and being creative. Finding new ways to use the bricks was a big part of the fun.

    • @DrTofu83
      @DrTofu83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      That's exactly the point. No one will ever really sic the "Lego police" on you if you warp, bend, crush, paint, glue or eat your LEGOs.
      LEGOs are meant to be creative.
      Illegal is just shorthand for "You tried something fancy, and you broke the brick. Your fault mate, next time you'll be luckier"
      Still, many "illegal" tecnicques stress the bricks, but do no lasting damage on them. Good for you then ^_^

    • @WEENUS157
      @WEENUS157 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DrTofu83 yeah,why do you think lego has tryed new things like paper and legos.

    • @DrTofu83
      @DrTofu83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@WEENUS157 Lego is creativity, we all know that. Every single kid (and sometimes not kids) in his past has is fair share of mishandled, manhandled, broken LEGO pieces.
      Sadly, today we live in a society where if someone breaks a LEGO piece he goes on Facebook complaining about "shoddy quaility"

    • @javaguru7141
      @javaguru7141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I agree in principle but there is one genuine reason to educate and encourage people not to use illegal designs: there is a large used market for lego bricks, and they increase the risk of damaged bricks unintentionally ending up on the market.

    • @CoralCopperHead
      @CoralCopperHead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DrTofu83 "Sadly, today we live in a society where if someone breaks a LEGO piece he goes on Facebook complaining about "shoddy quaility""
      *[CITATION NEEDED]*

  • @Aio-Project
    @Aio-Project ปีที่แล้ว

    brick bending on the other hand stresses the hell out of his bricks

  • @sallywyatt2918
    @sallywyatt2918 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow the fact there is such a thing as illegal associated with a toy says it all

  • @Tapanitseini
    @Tapanitseini 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This video will be used in a court if the LEGO cops decide to arrest Tiago.

  • @pi172
    @pi172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    You didnt answer the real question though: How many former Lego designers spend their rest of their lifes rotting in danish prison cells for these illegal building techniques?

    • @TiagoCatarino
      @TiagoCatarino  2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      That's classified...

    • @gabrieltellez8148
      @gabrieltellez8148 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TiagoCatarino So your saying its more then 1...

    • @tonyromano6220
      @tonyromano6220 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Funny!

    • @tonyromano6220
      @tonyromano6220 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TiagoCatarino I thought the NWO was frightening……

  • @matthewwriter9539
    @matthewwriter9539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My first thought when I heard about illegal builds...
    "Dude! These are my Legos. The whole point is to be creative. How can anything I do with them be illegal."
    Lego set designer: "Some things will wear out or damage your legos."
    Me: "Alright. Yeah. I'll go with that."
    ...though I still think "illegal" might be a little strong.

  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If these illegalities were a crime, I would have been a criminal as a kid.

  • @Memer9456
    @Memer9456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    imagine telling a former lego employee that their builds are illegal

    • @GamingPalOllieMK
      @GamingPalOllieMK ปีที่แล้ว

      Even if they are tho, what normal human being would give a shit
      this video is so frustrating to me because it showed me a world I wasn't aware of, I dunno why youtube recommended it, I have no interest in bloody legos but to see so much elitism surrounding friggin legos only confirms to me that we live in a clown world and this shit needs to end on all fronts.
      people need to shut the fuck up and stop being elitist and controlling over every aspect of entertainment

  • @flaminghive
    @flaminghive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very nice to see a thorough breakdown of *why* certain techniques are illegal.

  • @solame4983
    @solame4983 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for teaching me these illegal techniques that you use in your builds!

  • @NiveusMilitis
    @NiveusMilitis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LEGO quality control is some of the most intense QC on the planet.

  • @Zach-cs5rp
    @Zach-cs5rp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This is awesome! I would always direct any non-Lego friends to the "Stressing the Elements" powerpoint by Jamie Berard when they'd hear me talking about my builds or see the ever so misunderstood memes, but this more 'hands-on' video is way more intuitive and thorough (as well as being more modern with the new cone and 1x1 tile with clip molds).

    • @TiagoCatarino
      @TiagoCatarino  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Based this video on that powerpoint!

    • @R0Sch88
      @R0Sch88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TiagoCatarino Some of the old illegal builds from that powerpoint are outdated now, like sticking a transparent bar in the hole of another transparent part. The new trans clear material is not polycarbonate any more, it's the softer MABS now, so the friction is same as regular opaque bricks. That's why we see so many new recolored parts in transparent nowadays.

    • @Zaximillian
      @Zaximillian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That PowerPoint presentation should be required viewing for many builders. We stumbled upon that presentation and re-presented it at one of our LUG meetings.

  • @redhawkneofeatherman261
    @redhawkneofeatherman261 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    If you think your lego techniques are illegal, remember:
    I have willingly cut peices to size when I have lacked the right peice and colour, quite a few times.

    • @thedemolitionmuniciple
      @thedemolitionmuniciple 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Currently debating doing so with old blue 16x32 baseplates to have my ocean water flush with the wall. Still haven't bit the bullet though.

    • @josiahjack455
      @josiahjack455 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      That's just messed up

    • @forbiddenchannel4901
      @forbiddenchannel4901 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      you should be put on trial for crimes against humanity.

    • @acmenipponair
      @acmenipponair 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also: other companies have no problem in inventing new pieces that fit the purposes of the "illegal" building techniques, it's only LEGO that are too stupid to come up with good bricks :D

  • @philswaim392
    @philswaim392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You know people tale legos too seriously when they say a building technique is illegal

  • @Soapdish747
    @Soapdish747 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "keep commenting because it's good for the algorithm" is fucking savage and I am here for it

  • @deadlineuniverse3189
    @deadlineuniverse3189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My definition of illegal building techniques before this video: Everything that doesn’t look like Lego would voluntarily put into a build instruction.
    My definition after: Everything that can batter the brick.

  • @Flyingbrickyard
    @Flyingbrickyard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I remember back when a vertical plate between studs was in some official build instructions. Though that would've been close to 40 years ago at this point.

  • @ERICROJO156
    @ERICROJO156 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me pushing every Lego brick to its absolute limits (illegal): "If it dies, it dies"

  • @leyotheturtle313
    @leyotheturtle313 ปีที่แล้ว

    Inmate : what you in for
    Lego master : making illegal connections

  • @albertosara416
    @albertosara416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I always thought illegal lego techniques were just a meme. I was wrong

    • @Johan_S847
      @Johan_S847 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah me too, I was just kidding he was using illegal technics💀

    • @GuiSmith
      @GuiSmith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I always thought it was just aesthetic stuff LEGO designers couldn't use or what looked like the pieces didn't line up in instructions. Turns out I was also wrong.

    • @TiagoCatarino
      @TiagoCatarino  2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It is a very serious business at LEGO!

    • @DrTofu83
      @DrTofu83 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TiagoCatarino Not just LEGO. You can do a lot of kitbashing with any given kit, even sanding, gluing or putting undue stress on the used parts. If it works, works. If it doesn't, you just failed, no big deal :P

  • @justafrogwithahat355
    @justafrogwithahat355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a Lego designer after being told that his techniques are illegal"
    - Some guy, probably

  • @hackcubit9663
    @hackcubit9663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So that's why some of the more complicated builds seemed to use weird choices of bits!

  • @qcydios
    @qcydios 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    randos on internet: illegal
    former LEGO designer: yeah, i'm thinkin i'm back

  • @Eli_the_fiend
    @Eli_the_fiend 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was overjoyed when I learned that Lego redesigned those one by one clips because when I was a kid I remember the old designs broke a little too easily.

  • @dianastasny9338
    @dianastasny9338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Would love to see some of this long term damage. I'm personally infamous for stressing bricks in my designs and despite having been assembled for years under tension they always spring back.

  • @ardmichielsen2977
    @ardmichielsen2977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I did a lot of plate connections (03:50) in the '80's with my Lego's. If you wanted to make a slum or a shed, that plate connection was the way to go and looked the most natural. Since then, Lego had lot of time improving them to release the stress in the plates that way. If they can improve the cones (03:17) to make former "illegal techniques" legal, they can do the same with the plates.

    • @Amy.Potter_Gryffindor_
      @Amy.Potter_Gryffindor_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Smart

    • @affegpus4195
      @affegpus4195 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Decreasing plate thickness would however break everything else

    • @ardmichielsen2977
      @ardmichielsen2977 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@affegpus4195 Yes, but calling a plate connection like I did for sheds or slums illegal is way to dramatic. It's not illegal to put just one plate and after a few knobs another one.

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ardmichielsen2977If you are a Lego engineer, you are not allowed to do that.
      As an end customer you can do with it whatever you want, of course (subject to the criminal code), but illegal builds will void the warranty.

    • @ardmichielsen2977
      @ardmichielsen2977 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@davidwuhrer6704But Lego had/has had enough time to make this "illegal" construction possible by adapting the plates. I made many "slums" this way in the '80s, so Lego has been dormant for over 40 years adjusting the plates to make it work.

  • @gunnarsoderhielm3425
    @gunnarsoderhielm3425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have seen so many videos talking about what's legal and illegal when it comes to building legos and I almost didn't click on this video, thinking I knew everything it was gonna say. But then I did anyway and actually learned so much more about the topic and also how to identify it more easily. Thanks a lot for the info.

  • @ChrisByram
    @ChrisByram 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Such a clear definition and great examples!! Honestly didn't realize what was bad about using illegal connections. Very cool to see! Thank you!

  • @adamjankoleno1133
    @adamjankoleno1133 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun fact: The cover of LEGO Harry Potter: Years 5-7 features an illegal building technique. The Godric Gryffindor's sword uses a clip holding a tile and when you look closer, it's definitely the old one (btw, the new one didn't even exist back then).

  • @LilacStarbloom
    @LilacStarbloom 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude is the Saul Goodman of Lego builds

  • @pablesm
    @pablesm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:02 the left one is legal with bootleg parts

  • @dmitrikonnov922
    @dmitrikonnov922 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope, nobody has been prosecuted so far for such illegal actions like that.

  • @Brain_pocketer
    @Brain_pocketer ปีที่แล้ว

    This is genuinely really helpful

  • @Avram42
    @Avram42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    It appears to me that many of these "illegal" connections were just a lack of foresight on the original designs as far as cross-compatibility goes. In some cases they were directly addressed with a re-design and it seems that some of them are simply just too late to fix (e.g. technic vs. normal alignments & lego logo protrusion). Can you honestly say that with a blank design slate that all of these incompatibilities are necessary?

    • @bermchasin
      @bermchasin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      completely NOT necessary. They done f'd up and are still charging an arm and leg for bobo products. GARBAGE.

    • @potatow088
      @potatow088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@bermchasin what the f

    • @bergauk
      @bergauk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Lego could definitely engrave the Lego logo into pieces and increase design compatibility but I don't think it'd really be worth retooling everything they currently use unless it really opened up design opportunities.

    • @koma-k
      @koma-k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@bergauk The LEGO logo could easily be swapped from raised to recessed; the moulds used do have a finite lifespan, so while it would take several years they *could* choose to make this change. Whether it is worth it or not is probably mostly a question of principles. Is making a few, esoteric constructions "kosher" worth it vs. messing with a logo that has been unchanged for decades?

    • @joet3935
      @joet3935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@koma-k I thought the LEGO Logo was a quality control device, like making sure the plastic was liquid enough to get all the way into the mold.

  • @Herbsy420
    @Herbsy420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Its kinda funny how I as a kid, didnt know that these are actually called illegal techniques, whenever I or my friends tried to build something using thes techniques I said it just didnt felt right to do it that way. So I kinda got a feeling for illegal techniques... I should become a Lego police officer!

    • @necroseus
      @necroseus ปีที่แล้ว

      HEY!

    • @reedomu
      @reedomu ปีที่แล้ว

      @@necroseus A man in Lego City is building with illegal techniques! Arrest him!

  • @vincer7824
    @vincer7824 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My man whipped out his credentials in less than 30 seconds and I'm ready.

  • @ianspeckmaier9565
    @ianspeckmaier9565 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ending on "Most of the time" was the ultimate mic drop.

  • @BrickBending
    @BrickBending 2 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    That was a great video!

    • @TiagoCatarino
      @TiagoCatarino  2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Oh no

    • @yjonesy
      @yjonesy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TiagoCatarino "Oh no" 🤣🤣

    • @legospacememe8468
      @legospacememe8468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@TiagoCatarino what have you done. You promised to protect the brick not destroy them

    • @Ilikerawfish
      @Ilikerawfish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Some men just want to watch the world burn...

    • @SpeedIdran
      @SpeedIdran 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Man, this is funny

  • @davidumann6707
    @davidumann6707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:42 I'm sorry, WHAT?

  • @nunyobusiness835
    @nunyobusiness835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ive been using lego bricks how I see fit since I first owned them in the late 70s. Im not gonna stop making things just becuase its illegal.

  • @dumpstercat2229
    @dumpstercat2229 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was surprised by how interesting this video is

  • @masonwilliams9090
    @masonwilliams9090 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:07 Sadly it's not, it still gets stressed and ultimately broken. I have several new clips and they're mostly broken, I didn't even use any illegal techniques similarly in the video, only had them clipped on some bars and they're still broken so no new clip design doesn't really help

    • @stephenolan5539
      @stephenolan5539 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just curious does it seem to happen more when the air is dry?
      During the Winter for example.

    • @masonwilliams9090
      @masonwilliams9090 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope it happens all the time. I mean I'm totally unable to notice when they break but whenever I check them, there's always cracks so idk if humidity can affect the plastic tho

  • @BeerBourbonandGames
    @BeerBourbonandGames 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I had no idea there was such a thing as an "illegal" build before. This channel is fascinating.

    • @WalnutAnimations
      @WalnutAnimations 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You must be new to lego

    • @BeerBourbonandGames
      @BeerBourbonandGames 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@WalnutAnimations I built a lot when I was a kid, but only just picked it up again as an adult. So far I'm about 10 sets deep and loving it.

    • @WalnutAnimations
      @WalnutAnimations 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BeerBourbonandGames yeah it’s amazing for all ages

    • @BeerBourbonandGames
      @BeerBourbonandGames 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WalnutAnimations it really is! Currently I working on the new sonic the hedge hog set.

    • @WalnutAnimations
      @WalnutAnimations 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BeerBourbonandGames wow same!

  • @jakobrosenberg2008
    @jakobrosenberg2008 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trauma and suppressed memories from 30 years ago is starting to resurface. This explains a lot.

  • @Sky-sd9md
    @Sky-sd9md ปีที่แล้ว

    Lego: creative is good!!
    Also lego: *these are illegal*

  • @DouglasLambert
    @DouglasLambert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Now you have to build something just with illegal techniques

    • @TiagoCatarino
      @TiagoCatarino  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I can't! It's physically impossible for me!

  • @jjsanimations
    @jjsanimations 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    What IS illegal is....
    not being subscribed to Tiago Catarino...

    • @zethrenbeltran4071
      @zethrenbeltran4071 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just checked and i wasnt!!! I subbed now thanks to this comment! Please dont jail me

  • @mylittledarkworldjohn4289
    @mylittledarkworldjohn4289 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The beginning is so wonderful, thats like telling beethoven to listen to moonlight sonata

  • @kingjames4886
    @kingjames4886 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wasn't even aware this was a thing...

  • @JRodonBricks
    @JRodonBricks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Finally someone properly explains what are illegal techniques and why!
    Super educational and detailed!