Yes was wondering why you stay silent on the gold, well said Mark ! 😂 , I done gold with no complaints because it’s totally worth it considering the hard work you all put in and especially giving us all your time !
More that 50% of the population in the UK and Ireland are still very comfortable they have fairly good good jobs, OK money car, Holidays, Clothes, Football etc. None of this really seriously affects them or their comfortable lives. Until the majority are seriously effected because of real hardship. Things will continue to get worse. UNLESS We have some serious unforeseen events or Divine intervention. However we can never loose HOPE. If we do ALL we can to be Humble Holy Prayerful People. This alone can have an effect far beyond our understanding.
Comfort seems to make people apathetic. Bishop Sheen talked a lot about this and how, for example, wealth in the U.S. had a negative impact on our souls.
As we experience the erosion of Christian culture and endure even greater outrages than the Olympic opening ceremony, remember what Jesus said to Sr. Faustina: “Know, My daughter, that your silent day-to-day martyrdom in complete submission to My will ushers many souls into Heaven. And when it seems to you that your suffering exceeds your strength, contemplate My wounds, and you will rise above human scorn and judgment. Meditation on My Passion will help you rise above all things”. Our sufferings and struggles are not in vain; united with Jesus' suffering, we can rescue souls from the bondage of Satan!
Just written to St Marks, respectfully obviously, to not go ahead with their taser party thing. Also utterly appalled to learn that our judges are required to be prejudiced before they even enter the court room!
@@catholicunscripted the parish priest wrote me a very nice letter explaining that it had been a misunderstanding and that there would be no entertainment on holy ground.
I was heading to Southwell Cathedral yesterday. As I got closer I could hear the sound from within of an all out electric rock band with a full throated lead singer screaming that we were “running out of time” The words may have been prescient but as I U turned away I didn’t see anyone else flocking to hear what else he had to shriek at us.
Thank you sister and brothers from the UK. God bless from Maryland... I was baptized, when Pius the 12th was Pope. I was 12 years old when they took the real Mass from us. This coming Sunday is our last TLM at our Church which was formed in 1758. No disrespect but I don't like cardinal 🪳. And praying for him. Trusting in our Lord, and Our Lady of course!
"Real Mass"? Hum . . . the first Mass, i.e. Last Supper, was likely in Aramaic, possibly with a spattering of Hebrew, e.g. Psalm. It seems strange that a Mass in English would be less than a real Mass. I suppose the Apostles received only the bread, not the wine, Jesus was facing away from the Apostles, and all were kneeling. 🤔
To be fair to Musk, he did preface his confession that he read some of the great philosophical tomes at 12 by saying “as much as a 12 year old can grasp that,” or words to that effect. I thought he was simply being factual and trying to be humble as he could be - he was clearly preciousness child and realizes something of an oddity. I think Gavin’s comment a little harsh and didn’t sense one iota of grandiosity in Elon’s comments. Being that smart must be quite a weight to carry, and he does so as well as anyone could given his success.
I can’t say for sure what Elon is actually like, but he projects a carefulness and humility that is very refreshing from such a high status person today.
The Last Supper and the Masses which followed were in the language of the people and contemporary. It seems liturgical music makes a difference to some. In the U.S. parishes vary music accompaniment in Masses offered at different hours. Of course, latitude would be restricted where Mass is celebrated only once. From the perspective of a modernist, the TLM may be looked upon as "entertainment."
I wonder what CU thinks of Chesterton and Divine Mercy academies which are springing up all over the U.S. *** The issue of creating a loophole on employment and college applications and financial aid forms is a real problem. Once people catch on, there are those who will put anything down. After all, Senator Elizabeth Warren said she was Native American. Essentially, she was not. But it sure worked for her, and she was able to get a job at Harvard. In the U.S., we have to sign off on all these checklists and labels. The devil uses partial truths to create divisions. We really need God to help us in this crazy world.
That need for a DEI portfolio to enter the judiciary is extremely concerning. Great podcast covering alot thats going on outside the Church. We don't get to hear these things.
"Woe to the (DEI) workers of iniquities." Jesus "Be fools for humanities sake." Christ. Earth's increasing axial tilt magnetic north not you or co2 is causing these the birthing pains of this the millennium of climate change END TIMES. 5 loaves crossings in with 2 apocalyptic 1,000 year crossings to go until perigee with the galactic bulge. Mystery of the 7 star crossings Jesus held in his hand. Galactic Milankovitch cycles as measured by the Antikthera (Archimedes) dial.
In Sydney in catholic churches in 1990 selling book of Joyce Meyer and Benny Hin and I think they are dangerous but I didn't know as in catholic church promoting them, so I went to concert and there were perhaps 70000 or more
Unfortunately, Gavin, Jordan has, of course after long and due questoning, -he wouldn't dare not too, would he now?- defined himself as " situated on the borders", meaning he's not in AND not out, I suppose. The trouble is he did not define himself well thus, he only confessed his public comfortzone. Oh, and yes, as a headmaster, he should do his lesson over on limits, reading just through the beginnings of Hegel's Phenomenology to correct this silly pretention...of stability, as in the Phenomenology he would experience intelectually -and that what he is ALWAYS after, isn't he?- that no limits are ever as stable to define oneself by. I lament this irritated critical tone, cos I love Jordan Peterson, but boy can the man get on my nerves sometimes. Sorry for that, but I don't even have a cat to say it to, so, please, bear with me in this.
Jordan leaping in, talking far too long afterwards, and loosing a great opportunity to listen. After 7 years of worldly rise -and thank God for all the good that came from it- even if he is aware of his character flaws, and doesn't pretend to be who he's not, really doesn't see that he has probably been missing out on a lot, because of his strange need to behave all the time as the always corrective headmaster of a school. Does he never look at videos of himself and se the opportunities missed from this apparently undominable need to...well yes, I am afraid, to dominate. I am not judging this fenomenal master, I am flabbergasted that with his psy-knowledge, his selfanalysis, his good will and genuineness, he can' get a grip on this unbeatable need to persist in this conatus of his, his need to be Jordan Peterson, the headmaster who must speak cos he still does all his lessons well. Some same thing could surely be said of me, but then I am not JB P and thus who cares. ButJB P looses frequently significant chances, or moments of kairos. Gavin knows him personally: is there no chance of sorts anyone might help mighty Jordan? Some goodhearted jester of the king?
Eh, maybe give him some slack. What a great professor he was! And dealing with young people, many of whom were probably half asleep. With all that’s out there (of his talks), he does amazingly well in listening to many people who reflect a broad range of ideas, backgrounds, and perspectives, and he really listens and thinks about what they say. Like, maybe give him a break, as EM is not a titillating speaker. I will say I saw him with Dr. Phil, and it was so funny to me. JP sounded way too verbose next to Dr. Phil. Phil McGraw is a gifted listener and communicator, and as a Texan, he was nonplussed by all the heady ideas-he just said things so simply. Never could there be 2 psychologists with such varied styles!
Not all Protestant churches use music to get people in to the church as entertainment. Worship is really an important part of entering into Gods presence. I do miss this a bit in Catholic Church but do praise at home. We are called in psalms to praise him with the timbrel and Harp …. Psalm 150.
But it’s not about teaching, it’s about SHOWING! The Novus Ordo does not make manifest the reality of what’s happening, ie Calvary. Until the TLM is restored, catechesis on the Eucharist and what the Mass is will be ineffective.
I agree with Mark about Catechesis, about formation. That is one of the major roots of the problem with Catholics not having reverence or belief in the real presence. Catholics don’t know what they don’t know. How can formation be better? How can priests use the pulpit in a better way to educate parishioners and encourage them to go deeper? (BTW, teachers have similar problems in having to entertain students who are not prepared to learn and need to be entertained.)
Re state of the Church and hedonism, Bishop Sheen seemed to predict a lot of what is happening in the Church today. He said the Church would get smaller, but holier, and that lay people would save the Church.*** I watched a good deal of the interview between JP and EM. I agree that JP seemed a bit excited (who wouldn’t?), but bottom line, they’re both amazing people. Way differently gifted, though. It showed how dynamics change depending on who JP speaks with. (So, yes, a little boring. I always get the impression EM would rather be working on his next great invention than doing some interview, but he was sweetly polite and indulgent.) Also, EM obviously asks questions on his own, all the time, as he is a creative genius, but looking at one snapshot between 2 people can’t convey everything. I’ve seen EM many times-I think he’s tough to interview for what we’re used to seeing on television/streaming entertainment. *** JP knows his wife was ultimately saved by a miracle and not by diet. (I’ve watched him speak about this a lot.) Re diet, several doctors from major institutions have done studies on healing metabolic disorders, mental health issues, and auto immune diseases through diet (low/no carb), and it’s not crazy. The Petersons have been physically helped by diet, period. The Rosary, Catholic Church, and, of course, Jesus Christ have helped save their souls. They are the Accidental Evangelists. *** EM was gracious. JP seemed anxious to engage EM through his usual style, but EM is never ever as verbally precocious as JP. JP was trying, though!
Thank you for raising the issue of the Mass Laser Tag at St Mark's Catholic Church in Ipswich UK. I attended Mass at Holy Family Brantham in April 2024 when visiting relatives at Manningtree nearby. Holy Family is attached to St Mark's Parish where my tolerance levels were tested. I entered the church for Sunday Mass and was shocked by members of the small aged congregation walked around having loud conversations talking about their physical ailments and chatting with the latest news as if in a social hall. They rushed about too and fro as if mingling in a party. The priest walked in from his car with a card board box similar to those apples are shipped in. It had no lid. Inside was a ciborium with consecrated hosts. He walked up the aisle with the box and took the ciborium out resting the box on the altar, and placed the ciborium into the empty tabernacle. Yes he genuflected. No one else did. The hymns were like an episode of South Park in which they formed a Christian boy band which sang love songs with "Jesus" used to replace "girl". Other hymns sounded like circus music. My skin crawled at the obvious banality and dissonance which seemed to unnoticed by those there. I was shocked this older congregation, who had a memory of the reverence of the past were so casual and desacralised. The sign of peace degenerated into another run around and was annoying. I tried not shake hands but was obliged too so as not to look grumpy. With a congregation of less than twenty we still had laywomen take part in distributing Holy Communion. My relatives who are disillusioned member of the C of E remarked it was "like a Anglican service" to which I replied "exactly that is the problem". I was thinking of giving some feedback in an email but I lacked the courage. In England shallow politeness is a practiced to the point of being a vice. My relatives saw I was disappointed. The next Sunday they searched for a TLM nearby which was in a beautiful country estate chapel. There were families with children and a normal range of age groups at Mass. The congregation were reverent and focused on the Mass My relatives were moved by the sacrality of the low Mass and I thought it the real thing...God focused and ancient...not a children's game. Fr Luke Goymour at St Mark's where the Laser tag is planed is not a bad man or priest.I think he is a reasonable man but I was not sure if his congregation from the 1970"s broke him to fit in with them. I think he is clutching at straws. I found him to be polite and not an odd ball. He has just lost his bearings. There is no doubt the parishes are in trouble... it's the design of the church buildings, the ugliness of the interiors and banality of a neo Protestant liturgy but also a sloppy casual culture that has developed. As the priest was processing out the end of the Mass someone called out from the pew telling everyone it was a couples wedding anniversary. God bless them...but the round of clapping and cheering was again out if place. I would have asked them to stay after Mass and given them a blessing. Better to inform the priest beforehand. The liturgy isn't bingo in the village hall...Brantham has no village hall and the church looks like one!
Surprised you did not include a spattering of attendees saying the rosary during the Mass as they did when all Masses were in Latin and the smaller number of people who received the host, I suppose, out of the idea that the priest's reception sufficed.
@@michaeljhoey1Yes...my Anglican cousins, did a search and discovered the amazing church and TLM. Pray for the priest there who is very wise and dedicated to tradition. That part of the world took part in the Pilgrimage of Grace and the traditional Mass continued in the nearby manor and then the estate church until today.
Dressing up as a saint makes me think uncharitably, of a martyr costume, with all kinds of unpleasant special effects. Seriously, who thinks this stuff up? To be fair it's nothing new, with elderly priests being coerced into holding discos and (shudder) folk Masses in the 1960s and 70s.
The FSSP parish I attend counters Halloween with All Saints dress ups for the children. It works very well although I would set an age limit. I thought we had a new nun visiting however it was a lare teenage girl dressed at St Rose of Lima.
Disagree with Katherine, Mark, and Gavin on the TLM. I think that is important the Mass to be in the vernacular and contemporary . I do favor aspects of the Novus Ordo which harken back to Early Christian liturgical practices. I do not support Helter Skelter or Laser Party gimmickry. The Mass is NOT entertainment, which, in my view, may apply to the TLM as well. I do not believe we should give up, concede, to DEI. However, Gavin's suggestion of forming intervention groups similar to those formed by Orthodox Jews seemed to be very wise. Has anyone passed it on to the Vatican, i.e. if the Vatican would run with it? At least, some dioceses and national bishops' conferences might take it up.
The tridentine or extraordinary form mass has a devoted following, but relatively few churches offer it and I doubt it would have the universal appeal that a lot of its followers claim. To others, Latin is a complete turn off. I've seen people leave a church because the priest insisted on Latin for the Kyrie, Sanctus, Agnus Dei etc. And this is the thing, there's no "novelty" (or old thing) that will get people back to mass other than Jesus and the mystery at the centre of it. I think we will need to worry less about the exact form of the package, how many candles there are on the altar etc. Fads and fashions come and go. It's the teaching of the Church and the miracle of the mass that are timeless.
I agree that some TLM enthusiasts inhabit a fantasy world wherein the entire church will just adopt it. It's never going to happen. And mature LMS types like Joseph Shaw are careful never to sound like that. But as a relatively recent revert I would say that the generally much greater reverence of the old Mass attracts people who are usually way more intelligent and lively minded than your average NO congregation. To me the ideal would be a community where the TLM acts as a kind of gold standard which improves the quality of worship overall. This happens in places like St Bede's Clapham which have flourishing NO and TLM congregations coexisting. Our local parish in Sussex has similar with a small TLM undergirding a reverent NO with ad oriente, all male servers, quiet, kneeling available etc.
@@michaeljhoey1 Excuse me for being way less "intelligent and lively minded." As Jesus said for us to do, Bless you. Again, in my opinion, the Holy Eucharist should be in the language of the people and contemporary. The NO includes liturgical practices of the Early Church, e.g. reception of the host standing, reception of both kinds (species), the priest behind the altar. The NO seems more comparable with the Holy Eucharist as it was celebrated in the beginning.🙂
@@philiphumphrey1548 Yes, I have felt the urge to walk out when Latin is used. It seems offensive. As you have said, do most people understand it today? (By the way, I had Latin in school.) Afterward, I tend to avoid the same parish. Did Jesus speak Latin to people he addressed? Most likely Aramaic.🙂
Good afternoon from Brittany, France. Just an information you could give me ; I know you Anglo-Saxons love acronyms but would you please tell me what your mean by DIE ?
@@catholicunscripted sort of evil trinity concluded by the semantic of the word, namely death ; totally prophane. The inclusivity is rampant, every where ; diversity is a new concept which goes on and on in the present vision of the world, there is a German word for it, I guess. Did they, our ancestors, use it in the XIXth century ? The accent, it's interesting to notice, is on the quantitative, that is to say material side of this unfrequentable idea. Equity ? Well, no there is no equity, nature is unjust sometime, no, there no equality at all. The French Revolutionary of the 1793/1796 period, the Terror did all they could to make it real for everybody but they failed. Completely, in the Ancien Régime, there were unequalities, by the blood mainly, some blue ones were suposed to be more precious, but he three Orders were living pacifically under the Monarchs. They started to hate each other after the King, Louis XVIth was, in my opinion, murdered. So...Diversity, ballooney ; Inclusion; a fantasy, a bit oeudipian, by the way. Thanks to you to have produced all this. Révérence Madame et Messieurs !
Futhermore, this gentleman is obviously an atheist. He's got more power, concrete powers, diverse and varied, than any chief of State. King of the world ? Possibly.
@@vanessamay3689 who is fat shaming ? I can’t even see the men clearly to know if they are fat! They should try something before denigrating it! A little sensitive are we?
I've recently started watching your vids and was thinking what a refreshing change from those dreadfully commercial american you tubers and then you have to go and spoil it at the end with the somewhat less than subtle pitch for my pennies. Any road, I'm away to find a Latin mass in my area and invest in some Hydrogen fuel companies, can't see any future in those Tesla battery cars
Thank you for watching a programme that is beholden to no one and relies entirely on support from those who see value in what we do. If you prefer we become the mouthpiece of a rich donor or wish to encourage slavery then this is your choice. Keep your pennies for something worthy, clearly it is not us. We will continue to give of our time anyway.
There’s nothing wrong with asking for support. We viewers need to be reminded to subscribe and donate if we like a “show.” That’s how it works now. CU actually probably needs to remind people more frequently to hit like and subscribe, and show how to donate. I hope they do super chats some day.
I thought it was Musk’s fault. I’ve rarely seen him as telegenic. I’ll bet he’s different with engineers and scientists when working on a new invention. Maybe. What do I know. In general, I never find JP boring.
Totally agree with Gavin! Jordan was talking talking talking with that irritating high pitched Canada accent!!! I also agree about the religion texts issue at 11 years old. Jordan refuses to get off his intellectual ‘doubt’ about Christianity!
I agree with your comments, but I still love JP. People who are way smarter than the rest of us are usually a bit different. We gotta give them some slack. JP has had his eyes opened to faith through his wife. Usually something has to happen that transcends the intellect. I call JP the Accidental Evangelist. He is doing inestimable good in getting people to think, to look at the Bible in a refreshing new way, and to consider miracles. He is teaching people. Even Bishop Barron recognizes that.
@@orarerosarium I’m starting to wonder if Jordan isn’t an accidental evangelist, but actually exactly what an evangelist is. Forget about the messenger and look at the result, that is all that matters.
But it’s not about teaching, it’s about SHOWING! The Novus Ordo does not make manifest the reality of what’s happening, ie Calvary. Until the TLM is restored, catechesis on the Eucharist and what the Mass is will be ineffective.
It did not stop at calvary. The Resurrection and Ascension followed. It has been said that the western liturgy tended to placed emphasis on Jesus' passion on the cross. Eastern liturgies, e.g. Byzantine and Eastern Orthodox, did not leave out the balance of the Resurrection and Ascension. It may be my imagination, but I have noticed a slight adjustment in the NO. Some optional responses and hymns may mention the passion, resurrection, and ascension, not the passion alone.
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Yes was wondering why you stay silent on the gold, well said Mark ! 😂 , I done gold with no complaints because it’s totally worth it considering the hard work you all put in and especially giving us all your time !
I'm really glad I found this channel. K. Bennett doesn't look like she's 50.
She doesn’t act like it either 😂
Yes, that was the biggest eye opener. 😂 Katherine is beautiful! And nary a wrinkle. She looks at least 10 years younger-easily.
A lovely wise lady and two very fine faithful Gentlemen 💖
I’d like to learn her skin moisturising secrets. I’m betting it involves argan oil…
You guys are awesome…love your show.
Thank you 🙏
This is the best channel on TH-cam!! Thank you! The levity you bring to all these difficult topics is so refreshing! 😅
The battle is NOT lost, it is won with by preaching the cross... Tough LOVE.
More that 50% of the population in the UK and Ireland are still very comfortable they have fairly good good jobs, OK money car, Holidays, Clothes, Football etc. None of this really seriously affects them or their comfortable lives. Until the majority are seriously effected because of real hardship. Things will continue to get worse. UNLESS We have some serious unforeseen events or Divine intervention. However we can never loose HOPE. If we do ALL we can to be Humble Holy Prayerful People. This alone can have an effect far beyond our understanding.
That’s totally not true. The UK is in shambles.
Comfort seems to make people apathetic. Bishop Sheen talked a lot about this and how, for example, wealth in the U.S. had a negative impact on our souls.
As we experience the erosion of Christian culture and endure even greater outrages than the Olympic opening ceremony, remember what Jesus said to Sr. Faustina: “Know, My daughter, that your silent day-to-day martyrdom in complete submission to My will ushers many souls into Heaven. And when it seems to you that your suffering exceeds your strength, contemplate My wounds, and you will rise above human scorn and judgment. Meditation on My Passion will help you rise above all things”. Our sufferings and struggles are not in vain; united with Jesus' suffering, we can rescue souls from the bondage of Satan!
Sounds a lot like the warning to the church in Laodicea.
Just written to St Marks, respectfully obviously, to not go ahead with their taser party thing. Also utterly appalled to learn that our judges are required to be prejudiced before they even enter the court room!
Thank you, yes it is appalling
@@catholicunscripted the parish priest wrote me a very nice letter explaining that it had been a misunderstanding and that there would be no entertainment on holy ground.
@@MegaESSBEEwell done for writing and obtaining clarification.
Great show - as always!
I was heading to Southwell Cathedral yesterday. As I got closer I could hear the sound from within of an all out electric rock band with a full throated lead singer screaming that we were “running out of time” The words may have been prescient but as I U turned away I didn’t see anyone else flocking to hear what else he had to shriek at us.
Thank you sister and brothers from the UK. God bless from Maryland... I was baptized, when Pius the 12th was Pope. I was 12 years old when they took the real Mass from us. This coming Sunday is our last TLM at our Church which was formed in 1758. No disrespect but I don't like cardinal 🪳. And praying for him. Trusting in our Lord, and Our Lady of course!
Hello, fellow Marylander. Sorry for your loss.
@@orarerosarium hi it's nice to meet you. I'm up in the H-Town
@@EricJMJ-ln9dxHagerstown?
"Real Mass"? Hum . . . the first Mass, i.e. Last Supper, was likely in Aramaic, possibly with a spattering of Hebrew, e.g. Psalm. It seems strange that a Mass in English would be less than a real Mass. I suppose the Apostles received only the bread, not the wine, Jesus was facing away from the Apostles, and all were kneeling. 🤔
@@orarerosarium yes
glad you quoted Cardinal George
That is great news! Thank God!
To be fair to Musk, he did preface his confession that he read some of the great philosophical tomes at 12 by saying “as much as a 12 year old can grasp that,” or words to that effect. I thought he was simply being factual and trying to be humble as he could be - he was clearly preciousness child and realizes something of an oddity. I think Gavin’s comment a little harsh and didn’t sense one iota of grandiosity in Elon’s comments. Being that smart must be quite a weight to carry, and he does so as well as anyone could given his success.
Yes. You’re right. He said some very affirming things about Jesus - he’s clearly nearly there - a step away perhaps. Let’s continue to pray for him.
I agree with you. No grandiosity. He was a really smart kid! I thought EM came off as humble and “regular” as an unusual person could be.
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Can you explain please?
Thank you for bringing "idolization" reply to my attention. It is out of place. I am deleting it.
I can’t say for sure what Elon is actually like, but he projects a carefulness and humility that is very refreshing from such a high status person today.
Please post info on Argentine blog in show notes. Would like to investigate. Gracias.
You are a trinity of wisdom.
Mass Ad Populum has emphasised that the "entertainment" aspect of modernism is all that is there.
The Last Supper and the Masses which followed were in the language of the people and contemporary. It seems liturgical music makes a difference to some. In the U.S. parishes vary music accompaniment in Masses offered at different hours. Of course, latitude would be restricted where Mass is celebrated only once. From the perspective of a modernist, the TLM may be looked upon as "entertainment."
I wonder what CU thinks of Chesterton and Divine Mercy academies which are springing up all over the U.S. *** The issue of creating a loophole on employment and college applications and financial aid forms is a real problem. Once people catch on, there are those who will put anything down. After all, Senator Elizabeth Warren said she was Native American. Essentially, she was not. But it sure worked for her, and she was able to get a job at Harvard. In the U.S., we have to sign off on all these checklists and labels. The devil uses partial truths to create divisions. We really need God to help us in this crazy world.
YT algorithmically deletes any reference to their competitor that begins with ®️ and rhymes with Bumble. But please go on it!
Ugh! Didn’t get this notification.
Are you going to comment on the recent eucharistic national congress in Indianapolis Indiana?
That need for a DEI portfolio to enter the judiciary is extremely concerning.
Great podcast covering alot thats going on outside the Church. We don't get to hear these things.
"Woe to the (DEI) workers of iniquities." Jesus
"Be fools for humanities sake." Christ.
Earth's increasing axial tilt magnetic north not you or co2 is causing these the birthing pains of this the millennium of climate change END TIMES.
5 loaves crossings in with 2 apocalyptic 1,000 year crossings to go until perigee with the galactic bulge. Mystery of the 7 star crossings Jesus held in his hand. Galactic Milankovitch cycles as measured by the Antikthera (Archimedes) dial.
Discarding qualified doctors. Thought that KB had stopped being a comedian but then I realised it is not a joke.!!!!
Yet they want the best when its their life or someone or something they care about.
In Sydney in catholic churches in 1990 selling book of Joyce Meyer and Benny Hin and I think they are dangerous but I didn't know as in catholic church promoting them, so I went to concert and there were perhaps 70000 or more
Unfortunately, Gavin, Jordan has, of course after long and due questoning, -he wouldn't dare not too, would he now?- defined himself as " situated on the borders", meaning he's not in AND not out, I suppose. The trouble is he did not define himself well thus, he only confessed his public comfortzone. Oh, and yes, as a headmaster, he should do his lesson over on limits, reading just through the beginnings of Hegel's Phenomenology to correct this silly pretention...of stability, as in the Phenomenology he would experience intelectually -and that what he is ALWAYS after, isn't he?- that no limits are ever as stable to define oneself by. I lament this irritated critical tone, cos I love Jordan Peterson, but boy can the man get on my nerves sometimes. Sorry for that, but I don't even have a cat to say it to, so, please, bear with me in this.
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Jordan leaping in, talking far too long afterwards, and loosing a great opportunity to listen. After 7 years of worldly rise -and thank God for all the good that came from it- even if he is aware of his character flaws, and doesn't pretend to be who he's not, really doesn't see that he has probably been missing out on a lot, because of his strange need to behave all the time as the always corrective headmaster of a school. Does he never look at videos of himself and se the opportunities missed from this apparently undominable need to...well yes, I am afraid, to dominate. I am not judging this fenomenal master, I am flabbergasted that with his psy-knowledge, his selfanalysis, his good will and genuineness, he can' get a grip on this unbeatable need to persist in this conatus of his, his need to be Jordan Peterson, the headmaster who must speak cos he still does all his lessons well. Some same thing could surely be said of me, but then I am not JB P and thus who cares. ButJB P looses frequently significant chances, or moments of kairos. Gavin knows him personally: is there no chance of sorts anyone might help mighty Jordan? Some goodhearted jester of the king?
Eh, maybe give him some slack. What a great professor he was! And dealing with young people, many of whom were probably half asleep. With all that’s out there (of his talks), he does amazingly well in listening to many people who reflect a broad range of ideas, backgrounds, and perspectives, and he really listens and thinks about what they say. Like, maybe give him a break, as EM is not a titillating speaker. I will say I saw him with Dr. Phil, and it was so funny to me. JP sounded way too verbose next to Dr. Phil. Phil McGraw is a gifted listener and communicator, and as a Texan, he was nonplussed by all the heady ideas-he just said things so simply. Never could there be 2 psychologists with such varied styles!
Not all Protestant churches use music to get people in to the church as entertainment.
Worship is really an important part of entering into Gods presence. I do miss this a bit in
Catholic Church but do praise at home. We are called in psalms to praise him with the timbrel and
Harp …. Psalm 150.
But it’s not about teaching, it’s about SHOWING! The Novus Ordo does not make manifest the reality of what’s happening, ie Calvary. Until the TLM is restored, catechesis on the Eucharist and what the Mass is will be ineffective.
I agree with Mark about Catechesis, about formation. That is one of the major roots of the problem with Catholics not having reverence or belief in the real presence. Catholics don’t know what they don’t know. How can formation be better? How can priests use the pulpit in a better way to educate parishioners and encourage them to go deeper? (BTW, teachers have similar problems in having to entertain students who are not prepared to learn and need to be entertained.)
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Re state of the Church and hedonism, Bishop Sheen seemed to predict a lot of what is happening in the Church today. He said the Church would get smaller, but holier, and that lay people would save the Church.*** I watched a good deal of the interview between JP and EM. I agree that JP seemed a bit excited (who wouldn’t?), but bottom line, they’re both amazing people. Way differently gifted, though. It showed how dynamics change depending on who JP speaks with. (So, yes, a little boring. I always get the impression EM would rather be working on his next great invention than doing some interview, but he was sweetly polite and indulgent.) Also, EM obviously asks questions on his own, all the time, as he is a creative genius, but looking at one snapshot between 2 people can’t convey everything. I’ve seen EM many times-I think he’s tough to interview for what we’re used to seeing on television/streaming entertainment. *** JP knows his wife was ultimately saved by a miracle and not by diet. (I’ve watched him speak about this a lot.) Re diet, several doctors from major institutions have done studies on healing metabolic disorders, mental health issues, and auto immune diseases through diet (low/no carb), and it’s not crazy. The Petersons have been physically helped by diet, period. The Rosary, Catholic Church, and, of course, Jesus Christ have helped save their souls. They are the Accidental Evangelists. *** EM was gracious. JP seemed anxious to engage EM through his usual style, but EM is never ever as verbally precocious as JP. JP was trying, though!
Thank you for raising the issue of the Mass Laser Tag at St Mark's Catholic Church in Ipswich UK. I attended Mass at Holy Family Brantham in April 2024 when visiting relatives at Manningtree nearby. Holy Family is attached to St Mark's Parish where my tolerance levels were tested. I entered the church for Sunday Mass and was shocked by members of the small aged congregation walked around having loud conversations talking about their physical ailments and chatting with the latest news as if in a social hall. They rushed about too and fro as if mingling in a party. The priest walked in from his car with a card board box similar to those apples are shipped in. It had no lid. Inside was a ciborium with consecrated hosts. He walked up the aisle with the box and took the ciborium out resting the box on the altar, and placed the ciborium into the empty tabernacle. Yes he genuflected. No one else did. The hymns were like an episode of South Park in which they formed a Christian boy band which sang love songs with "Jesus" used to replace "girl". Other hymns sounded like circus music. My skin crawled at the obvious banality and dissonance which seemed to unnoticed by those there. I was shocked this older congregation, who had a memory of the reverence of the past were so casual and desacralised. The sign of peace degenerated into another run around and was annoying. I tried not shake hands but was obliged too so as not to look grumpy. With a congregation of less than twenty we still had laywomen take part in distributing Holy Communion. My relatives who are disillusioned member of the C of E remarked it was "like a Anglican service" to which I replied "exactly that is the problem". I was thinking of giving some feedback in an email but I lacked the courage. In England shallow politeness is a practiced to the point of being a vice.
My relatives saw I was disappointed. The next Sunday they searched for a TLM nearby which was in a beautiful country estate chapel. There were families with children and a normal range of age groups at Mass. The congregation were reverent and focused on the Mass My relatives were moved by the sacrality of the low Mass and I thought it the real thing...God focused and ancient...not a children's game. Fr Luke Goymour at St Mark's where the Laser tag is planed is not a bad man or priest.I think he is a reasonable man but I was not sure if his congregation from the 1970"s broke him to fit in with them. I think he is clutching at straws. I found him to be polite and not an odd ball. He has just lost his bearings. There is no doubt the parishes are in trouble... it's the design of the church buildings, the ugliness of the interiors and banality of a neo Protestant liturgy but also a sloppy casual culture that has developed. As the priest was processing out the end of the Mass someone called out from the pew telling everyone it was a couples wedding anniversary. God bless them...but the round of clapping and cheering was again out if place. I would have asked them to stay after Mass and given them a blessing. Better to inform the priest beforehand. The liturgy isn't bingo in the village hall...Brantham has no village hall and the church looks like one!
Surprised you did not include a spattering of attendees saying the rosary during the Mass as they did when all Masses were in Latin and the smaller number of people who received the host, I suppose, out of the idea that the priest's reception sufficed.
That is so sad but also common in many NO parishes. I expect you found refuge in Withermarsh Green! Father Henry is an inspiration.
@@michaeljhoey1Yes...my Anglican cousins, did a search and discovered the amazing church and TLM. Pray for the priest there who is very wise and dedicated to tradition. That part of the world took part in the Pilgrimage of Grace and the traditional Mass continued in the nearby manor and then the estate church until today.
Those are the exact reasons I do not watch Peterson's interviews anymore . . .
Even the Devil believes in God.
Yes, please do elbmuR.
(YT deletes any overt promotion of their competition.)
you should not send children to public schools and Catholics is not much better
Dressing up as a saint makes me think uncharitably, of a martyr costume, with all kinds of unpleasant special effects. Seriously, who thinks this stuff up? To be fair it's nothing new, with elderly priests being coerced into holding discos and (shudder) folk Masses in the 1960s and 70s.
The FSSP parish I attend counters Halloween with All Saints dress ups for the children. It works very well although I would set an age limit. I thought we had a new nun visiting however it was a lare teenage girl dressed at St Rose of Lima.
Disagree with Katherine, Mark, and Gavin on the TLM. I think that is important the Mass to be in the vernacular and contemporary . I do favor aspects of the Novus Ordo which harken back to Early Christian liturgical practices. I do not support Helter Skelter or Laser Party gimmickry. The Mass is NOT entertainment, which, in my view, may apply to the TLM as well. I do not believe we should give up, concede, to DEI. However, Gavin's suggestion of forming intervention groups similar to those formed by Orthodox Jews seemed to be very wise. Has anyone passed it on to the Vatican, i.e. if the Vatican would run with it? At least, some dioceses and national bishops' conferences might take it up.
The tridentine or extraordinary form mass has a devoted following, but relatively few churches offer it and I doubt it would have the universal appeal that a lot of its followers claim. To others, Latin is a complete turn off. I've seen people leave a church because the priest insisted on Latin for the Kyrie, Sanctus, Agnus Dei etc. And this is the thing, there's no "novelty" (or old thing) that will get people back to mass other than Jesus and the mystery at the centre of it. I think we will need to worry less about the exact form of the package, how many candles there are on the altar etc. Fads and fashions come and go. It's the teaching of the Church and the miracle of the mass that are timeless.
I agree that some TLM enthusiasts inhabit a fantasy world wherein the entire church will just adopt it. It's never going to happen. And mature LMS types like Joseph Shaw are careful never to sound like that. But as a relatively recent revert I would say that the generally much greater reverence of the old Mass attracts people who are usually way more intelligent and lively minded than your average NO congregation. To me the ideal would be a community where the TLM acts as a kind of gold standard which improves the quality of worship overall. This happens in places like St Bede's Clapham which have flourishing NO and TLM congregations coexisting. Our local parish in Sussex has similar with a small TLM undergirding a reverent NO with ad oriente, all male servers, quiet, kneeling available etc.
PS. Latin for the Kyrie? Surely it's Greek!
@@michaeljhoey1 Excuse me for being way less "intelligent and lively minded." As Jesus said for us to do, Bless you. Again, in my opinion, the Holy Eucharist should be in the language of the people and contemporary. The NO includes liturgical practices of the Early Church, e.g. reception of the host standing, reception of both kinds (species), the priest behind the altar. The NO seems more comparable with the Holy Eucharist as it was celebrated in the beginning.🙂
@@philiphumphrey1548 Yes, I have felt the urge to walk out when Latin is used. It seems offensive. As you have said, do most people understand it today? (By the way, I had Latin in school.) Afterward, I tend to avoid the same parish. Did Jesus speak Latin to people he addressed? Most likely Aramaic.🙂
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Sorry but I think there are too many abbreviations.
TLM, DEI, Novus Ordo.
Good afternoon from Brittany, France. Just an information you could give me ; I know you Anglo-Saxons love acronyms but would you please tell me what your mean by DIE ?
Apologies. It’s variously referred to as DEI, EDI or as we prefer DIE and means an intentional programme of Diversity Inclusion and Equity
@@catholicunscripted sort of evil trinity concluded by the semantic of the word, namely death ; totally prophane. The inclusivity is rampant, every where ; diversity is a new concept which goes on and on in the present vision of the world, there is a German word for it, I guess. Did they, our ancestors, use it in the XIXth century ? The accent, it's interesting to notice, is on the quantitative, that is to say material side of this unfrequentable idea. Equity ? Well, no there is no equity, nature is unjust sometime, no, there no equality at all. The French Revolutionary of the 1793/1796 period, the Terror did all they could to make it real for everybody but they failed. Completely, in the Ancien Régime, there were unequalities, by the blood mainly, some blue ones were suposed to be more precious, but he three Orders were living pacifically under the Monarchs. They started to hate each other after the King, Louis XVIth was, in my opinion, murdered. So...Diversity, ballooney ; Inclusion; a fantasy, a bit oeudipian, by the way. Thanks to you to have produced all this. Révérence Madame et Messieurs !
Futhermore, this gentleman is obviously an atheist. He's got more power, concrete powers, diverse and varied, than any chief of State. King of the world ? Possibly.
He had better or he will when he dies
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Both men on this channel should try the carnivore diet!
No fat shaming please. I am carnivore and do recommend it.
@@vanessamay3689 who is fat shaming ? I can’t even see the men clearly to know if they are fat! They should try something before denigrating it! A little sensitive are we?
I've recently started watching your vids and was thinking what a refreshing change from those dreadfully commercial american you tubers and then you have to go and spoil it at the end with the somewhat less than subtle pitch for my pennies. Any road, I'm away to find a Latin mass in my area and invest in some Hydrogen fuel companies, can't see any future in those Tesla battery cars
Thank you for watching a programme that is beholden to no one and relies entirely on support from those who see value in what we do. If you prefer we become the mouthpiece of a rich donor or wish to encourage slavery then this is your choice. Keep your pennies for something worthy, clearly it is not us. We will continue to give of our time anyway.
There’s nothing wrong with asking for support. We viewers need to be reminded to subscribe and donate if we like a “show.” That’s how it works now. CU actually probably needs to remind people more frequently to hit like and subscribe, and show how to donate. I hope they do super chats some day.
@@orarerosarium TH-cam takes 30% of all Superchat donos.
@@catholicunscripted you've shamed me into making a donation, good game well played
@@IronCurtainTwitcher that’s very kind, thank you 🙏
Interesting you both got bored because I stopped watching too.
I thought it was Musk’s fault. I’ve rarely seen him as telegenic. I’ll bet he’s different with engineers and scientists when working on a new invention. Maybe. What do I know. In general, I never find JP boring.
Totally agree with Gavin! Jordan was talking talking talking with that irritating high pitched Canada accent!!!
I also agree about the religion texts issue at 11 years old.
Jordan refuses to get off his intellectual ‘doubt’ about Christianity!
I agree with your comments, but I still love JP. People who are way smarter than the rest of us are usually a bit different. We gotta give them some slack. JP has had his eyes opened to faith through his wife. Usually something has to happen that transcends the intellect. I call JP the Accidental Evangelist. He is doing inestimable good in getting people to think, to look at the Bible in a refreshing new way, and to consider miracles. He is teaching people. Even Bishop Barron recognizes that.
@@orarerosarium I’m starting to wonder if Jordan isn’t an accidental evangelist, but actually exactly what an evangelist is. Forget about the messenger and look at the result, that is all that matters.
@@colinminch793Very true.
@@colinminch793May I ask where you are from (in a general way)?
@@orarerosarium Western US, though my name is Scottish. Yourself?
But it’s not about teaching, it’s about SHOWING! The Novus Ordo does not make manifest the reality of what’s happening, ie Calvary. Until the TLM is restored, catechesis on the Eucharist and what the Mass is will be ineffective.
children of the NWO religion only want entertainment and more giggles!
It did not stop at calvary. The Resurrection and Ascension followed. It has been said that the western liturgy tended to placed emphasis on Jesus' passion on the cross. Eastern liturgies, e.g. Byzantine and Eastern Orthodox, did not leave out the balance of the Resurrection and Ascension. It may be my imagination, but I have noticed a slight adjustment in the NO. Some optional responses and hymns may mention the passion, resurrection, and ascension, not the passion alone.