That is because we the British were the first tank force to use a boiling vessel. People need to look up the history of the boiling vessel. I and my regiment, the 2nd royal tank regiment were using the boiling vessel in lybya in 1959 but itwas used many years before. @@cathulhu-q7y
Britain is an island nation, and relies in its navy for the large scale power projection. What Britain will use their tanks for are small scale, high and low intensity fighting, where quality triumphs over quantity.
@williamdodds1394 Yup, two aircraft carriers that are about as reliable as a 50 year old Austin Allegro, half the navy chasing drug boats in the Caribbean (nice work if you can get it) and the rest stooging around watching rubber boats washing up around Dover.
@@fus149hammer5 It stands to reason when you get rid of skilled labour and close ship yards bad things will happen theve destroyed defence industry and just about everything else to foreign tenders.
@@dickdastardly5534 more like what country do you live in 😂😂😂 we have more terrorists on the watch list then we do actual military 😂 our country is fucked ....more military leaving than joining ... more money spent on illegals than what's spent on soldiers... housing illegals before housing ex service that are homeless.... yep fucking brilliant military and government
I think we all know this order will be scaled back, reduced and eventually cancelled entirely by the government due to budget cuts. We’ve seen it time and time again…
@@9Curtana He will need the money to pay for hotels etc for illegal migrants. How may more tanks could be built for the £8,000,000 PER DAY wasted on these parasites.
At this stage it would be be breach of contract and the Government would have costly legal case costing more than completing contract. Also a large number of hulls have been modified already for upgrade.
The British army has always been an expeditionary force. The main contribution the UK brings to its allies is in the air, at sea and logistical capabilities/expertise. It takes a huge amount of logistics to move an army packing 150 tanks any kind of distance
@@fus149hammer5 we most certainly could. The UK is far better equipped today to fight a war like the Falklands war than it was then. Influencers are working over drive to push for a bigger military for weapons companies profits
This is why Poland the biggest land barrier in the east of Nato is building a tank force that is equal in numbers but more advanced than Russia has, they can hold the line and within a week there would be Nato reinforcements there to help them. The UK simply doesn't need as many heavy MBT's we need fast air mobile Brigades with IFV's carrying medium 40mm cannons which have proven to outmatch even Russian T90's as Bradley's blinded some rendering them inoperable with just a 25mm cannon. Besides the lighter vehicles are far more use on peacekeeping missions which the Army does for more of.
they had 148 before sending some to Ukraine and the challenger 2 will be phased out as the way as the challenger 3 is a changer 2 chassis with a brand new turret so the uk will still have the same amount of tanks as before. basically no new tanks are being manufactured from scratch they are just being severely modernised into the challenger 3.
We’re an island nation mate, we don’t need 500, if anything we need a larger navy, but there’s a difference between a standing army and a wartime army, we do not need a wartime army in peacetime.
How do you think we feel in Australia. We can't defend our country with the military resources available. Our government has been spending but it's still too little, too late. We are still totally reliant on America.
The businessmen & politicians have sold us out over the years to fill their own pockets. If full scale war does break out with a peer nation how would we keep up production numbers? Most of our factories are now in India, China & the US. We need to have our own industry & not just rely on service sector!
@@Spartan902 honestly though, what risk is Australia at? the only wars currently are Israel vs Iran/Iranian proxies and Russia vs Ukraine. They're both territorial conflicts. There are no Imperialist nations right now that are intent on taking over the world militarily.
dude get your names straight. DM63 and it was a T-72A. And DM63 is a german designed and made 120x570mm APFSDS for the german made and designed RH120 L/55a1 of Leopard 2A6 and newer, wich now also gets adopted by the Challenger 3, a german designed and made upgrade to Challenger 2. There is nothing UK in that
Challengers have always been good tanks, there's just never been enough of them. No tank can survive air power, every challenger lost is a loss that literally can't be replaced because they're never going into production again. We need a whole new tank with a production count in the 500s
Fortunately very few Chally tanks have ever been lost to enemy action - no British crewed Challenger tank was ever destroyed by enemy fire. Only 1 or maybe 2 Ukrainian crewed Challengers have been destroyed.
Seriously, _can make successive shots by remote without a crew _*_or_*_ autoloader_ : you've been inhaling too many exhaust fumes. Oh yeah, the Tank-Fairy does it, I forgot.
That is because Germany is in Europe on land and tanks cannot cross the English Channel or the north sea. In 1960 we had wired guided missiles that could knock out any tank even the best soviet ones. Look up British army history. It was called malkara .@@cathulhu-q7y
With new weapons like sensitivity training and reporting the use of bad language and sexist behaviour we will be ahead of the field of those beastly people who dare to call us names 🤷🏼
No need with modern programmable rounds, there's multi function rounds that can airburst, and go through walls before detonating and the AFSDS that is for tanks, HESH has had it's day and modern armour has largely rendered it less effective than firing AFSDS at them, besides it must be cheaper making AFSDS rounds than HESH as it's just a machined Tungsten dart wearing a sabot.
The only round that requires a rifled barrel is the hesh round, APFSDS rounds (D.U) can be fired from a smooth bore gun. No challenger 3 will be fitted with a rifled barrel.
As the video stated, the Challenger 3 is getting a smooth bore gun as it allows them to use rounds used by the Abrams and Leopard. I think that this would also mean the Challenger 3 will also no longer need to use charges for propellant unlike the Challenger 2.
Why if the video is about the Challenger3 do you show another tank in the thumbnail for this video, clearly the tank turret in the thumbnail is that of a leopard style armour which the challenger does not use.
The tank itself when firing doesn’t seem to recoil all that much compared to what you see the Russians I’ve often wondered how they ever hit anything when they’re whatever they’re firing is moved so much by the firing process
The paradigm of the tank being a force projector is being challenged by Ukraine. Obviously, the majority of Russian tanks are older so it isn't a direct comparison. The real question is "is the tank still relevant "?
We need 10 tanks at Aberdeen Arbroath and Stirling and Edinburgh. Oban Campbell town this would cover Scotland to any force attacking the shore line. 60 challenger 3 tanks Ajax's Boxers Warriors Scimitar light recon tank Scorpions light recon tank 20,000 soldiers in Scotland either old or new barracks. Russia isn't playing games
This is a wonderful vehicle, especially because it is unmanned. Unfortunately, the tank is now obsolete; modern drone-led precision targeting renders it completely redundant.
Oh go away. Our GDP is £1.5 trillion, you really think a few million quid housing asylum seekers make that much a difference? And yeah, it's "asylum seekers" not illegal immigrants. Educate yourself
Because it is firing a single shell for test purposes only, that has been Loaded manually for the purpose of the test, it is not designed to be operated that way once in the field.
I just wonder, when you lose 1 or 2 of these on the battlefield how long does it take to build replacements? Can building new ever keep up with battlefild losses?
How good is the Challenger 3 against the drone´s attack ? Can TROPHY be effective against the Drone´s attack from TOP down ? If the above two questions cannot be answered, then forget Challenger 3 in order to save money for other Tank-project which is better, moderner and more effective than Challenger 3 on the moderne battlefield in the future with the most dangerous threat from the air attacks by drones !
Considering the active protection systems can shoot down missiles and the one said to be being put on the challenger 3 can engage anti tank shells even if to a minor degree it should be able to shoot down drones or at the very least their munitions.
It's not the Challenger 3 it's the Challenger 2a1 or Mk2 if you wanna use that instead. Literally all it is, like me grabbing my AX50 rifle and rechambering it to say 408 Cheytac and saying hey it's a brand new rifle! *It's not!* And before people say lah lah *I'M BRITISH OK* and this tank is the 2 Mk2 that's all
Clueless aren’t you. The turret is completely new, the chassis is stripped bare and suspension modernised and rebuilt. Just the hull is the same, and the engine with minor modifications
wrong, the rifled rounds are just as effective! the British army cant buy them anymore, that's why the smooth bore gun has been adopted. the L30 gun is still just as good...
The gun is reloaded by a little genie who is summoned if the BV rubbed, enabling the human crew to go down the pub, thus not permitting the war to interfere with valuable drinking time.
All sounds great. PR is working, lovely video. Except they seemed to have forgotten the current real wargame Ukraine. Would these lovely arms survive even a day in a drone environment? Perhaps this wasn't part of the PR brief. Suggest the tank crews aren't shown this for obvious reasons.
The prototype CR3 gun was fired remotely with the crew removed to proof fire the new gun and ammunition. All worked well, so crew can get back in the tank.
Magnificent tank! They should have all been turned in to challenger 3s. As Russia is finding out you can run out of serviceable tanks fast if you don't have enough in reserve!!
Doubt that the brits will make an independent MBT. most likely will work together with Germany and France. That being said. The brits were foolish enough to leave the EU so that could be problematic.
We don’t need to threaten Russia, their armed forces are a joke, incompetent and corrupt, they just throw bodies at a problem. If they started a war with NATO they would last a matter of days
Do the RAF have F35’s? The B is the ski-jump carrier version and they have brought so few, the US Marines are sharing the two carriers capacity. US Air Force F35A’s operate out of Mildenhall or Lakenheath but the RAF use Typhoons and are developing the multi-role platform with Japan for future needs. The main problem with Britain is that we’ll run out of ammo after day 1 like they did with their cruise missile submarine. 😎😇
The UK has around 40 F35's at the moment.They are based at RAF Marham and are shared with the Royal Navy. Another 35 or so are on order, and the decision to take the number up to a final total of 138 aircraft has still to be taken.
@@sproutandkidneysoup2296 Thanks, I knew that RAF Harrier’s had gone to the Falklands on Illustrious and Hermes to supplement the Sea Harriers but assumed that was a wartime thing. For a proud military force to go the American WWII route towards a do everything ‘Army Airforce’ seems a retrograde step. Perhaps if things get really serious, they’ll launch Typhoons off the carriers Top Gun Maverick style with no intention of recovering them. 😱🙀 😎😇
@@gbphil Most of the F35's on HMS Queen Elizabeth and the Prince of Wales are UK aircraft, supplemented with a few US planes so we get used to communicating and understanding each other. It's a good relationship, and there are often US marines on the British carriers for the same reason. We may speak the same language, but there are nuances that can cause confusion.Working closely together reduces those differences of language interpretation, and collectively makes us stronger.
Yes, the RAF has F-35Bs, based at RAF Marham. They are used alongside FAA F-35Bs on our two carriers as a Joint Force. The RAF also has Typhoons (and other kit to).
@@gbphil We do not have an Army Airforce. Each service (RN, British Army, RAF) has its own aircraft. The army only operates helicopters though. I don't get the carrier launched Typhoon comment - we use RAF and FAA (ie RN) F-35Bs on our carriers.
"Challenger 2 remains functional, but not competitive" you fail to cite exactly which tank it is outperformed by. so i call bollocks.... your options are Leopard and Abrams. so which is it?
Not due in service until 2030, its an upgraded challenger 2, and of course its yet another game changer 'not ' someone tell me where this tank is going to see service , answers on a postcard.
@@Alien9828 CR1 - we deployed 221 to the first Gulf War against T72s mostly. After the Gulf War, Challenger 1 tanks were also used by the British Army in Bosnia and Herzegovina and Operation Joint Guardian, the NATO-led drive into Kosovo. CR2 - Challenger 2 tanks were to support peacekeeping operations in Bosnia and Herzegovina and Kosovo.Challenger 2 was first used in combat in March 2003 during the invasion of Iraq. The 120 tanks of 7th Armoured Brigade, were used mainly against T54/55. Then 14 tanks gifted to Ukraine and used in Ukraine and Kursk region of Russia.
Every single tank ever made can have an automated trigger installed so you can fire the gun without anyone in the tank 🤦 The tank equivalent of tying sting around the trigger of a gun and pulling it remotely! Also I remember being 14 and bolting an M60e3 to a RC tank chasis and firing it *REMOTELY!* That technology isn't new jez H christ
Will wait to see it. Britain has always short change their defense programs and sold better versions abroad. It has to be disheartening for the Brit solders knowing better stuff is being sold to others then they get!
Not really - the C2 is as good as any current main Battle Tank in the world. The Typhoon us as good as any fighter in the world and even holds up against the F22
@@JoeyRay-fz1qe The Chieftain Tank was widely exported in the Middle East,that is correct - are you suggesting that they were of a superior spec to the BA ones ?.Ive covered CR2,but CR1 was never exported as such,they were gifted to the Jordanian Army when they went OOS with the BA,they had plans to upgrade them but AFAIK this was not carried out.
Apart from the Ajax being awful it does not have an IFV version. So there is no Warrior equivalent . Boxer a wheeled vehicle replaces it but there is no IFV version for the Uk. So our troop carriers are only armed with machine guns or a 40mm grenade launcher. A backward step in many ways!!!
Ajax have six version . But Britain can't finish others. So why did yours need Ajax? KF41+ Boxer can provide all version to satisfied Military requirements.
Ajax is fixed according to press releases from the MoD a while back. All the major issues have been solved after 2 years of redesign they went full scale on production last year. You are right on Boxer though, I think they should have had the IFV as standard with the CT40 turret which was designed for Warrior, those guys are gonnaa need more than machine guns and some grenades to hold out against BMP's etc. Typical MoD tbh underarmed platforms to save money just like the Royal Navy's Offshore Patrol Boats pushed into doing jobs well away from the UK with small arms and a single 30mm cannon, it's criminal. Then if there's deaths on operation and there's and inquiry the Brass pass the buck to the MoD who in turn back heel it to politicians none of whom take the blame.
The fact you call it awful, shows you're not involved with it in any practical way, or kept yourself up to date. The issues are resolved, the crews like it.
Why just upgrade Chalanger 2 tanks ??? Build more new ones too and start designing the next tank . The same goes with the Navy and Airforce build build and build our forces need everything !!! And keep politicians out they only ask for cuts and we end up with half a tank or other equipment . And uniforms made in China ? No everything made here !!! Not in any other Country . The American B52 has been going since the 60’s and will continue going for another 50 years . Why can’t we update and improve the Vulcan Bombers the Victor Bombers upgrade the engines new technology and prepare them for service and maintain them it needs done !!! We are sadly heading for a war and too many people sitting at home playing games on a PlayStation or watching the 1,000 channels on tv . They don’t care . Bring back National Service . Get the young men who are great with games and train them on drones and bombs etc train mechanics and electronic technicians . Build the Army and train young men and women if they want to serve the Country and make a strong military again and no more cutting budgets increase the Military budget by 3% per annum and get prepared . All that money lost to cronies making a train to nowhere Billions of pounds gone ! That should’ve gone to the Military NHS and Police . We need to waken up and see what’s going on in the World !!
AJAX !!! "a light recconaisance vehicle" !!! Do you realise it weighs over 32 tons already ! 🤔 Press the 3 dots and "do not reccomend this channel" ???
So behind in our military hardly any soldiers and behind on tanks and artillery compared to others. Russia China North Korea Iran Hamas the west care more about gender equality and eating fast food taking drugs and drinking alcohol. The respect has gone in the UK for sure we are not what we once was and most people here wouldn’t fight and the way our own government is treating the British the people want to fight our own country! Is a worrying future for us
Yes... it has a smooth bore cannon, like the one on every other bloody tank A4, Abrams, LeClerc and South Koran K2. Firing the same amo that bounced off Challanger2's in the Gulf War. Sack off the German drainpipe, grow some balls and develop a 120mm CTA.
@@mickylee82 it's actually been upgraded again, Dorchester is what Challenger 2 has, Challenger 3 has 3rd Gen Farnham (internal) and EPSOM (External add-on) armour
@@bitebaykon9948 No, thats not it. There is only some shortfalls in the tank units of manpower, and may not be any shortage of tank crews. The reason they fired the cannon remotely on this video is that it was to prove the safety of the cannon and ammunition (both new to British service) when integrated with a new tank, before introducing crew to the turret. This is standard procedure for any weapon that is new to British service. Now that the proving trial has finished, the tank is cleared to fire with crew on board.
Brits use Drone Jamming and only deploy heavy armour when they have air superiority and control the battlefield- something neither Ukraine or Russia are doing- hence the carnage
Brits use Drone Jamming and only deploy heavy armour when they have air superiority and control the battlefield- something neither Ukraine or Russia are doing- hence the carnage
How many people have said tanks are dead?loads and they’re all wrong. Tanks will evolve and in future the prophecy of the terminator movie will be sort of true ie the battlefield will primarily be AI machines/drones etc.
@@mrfrisky6501 jamming isn't as effective as it used to be and the government isn't investing in air defence systems mechanised and armoured units need
a 500 dollar drone that can be taken out by anti drone rifles tanks aren't obsolete people have been saying tanks are obsolete for decades and they've been consistently wrong
@Only1199 really because I've seen those russian anti-drone weapons and guess what they had it pointed at a drone and it had no effect its why 90% of the drones hitting russia get through
never before seen technology? except every boy. man. girl. woman. has seen it, played with it, or went to tournaments for it. it's just an RC car. and that's a significant problem. cause now, they can be hacked. oh and i've seen RC tanks before with the controls. it's not impressive, it's worrying. as there's plenty of none pen tester coders and scriptors that have linked full sized cars to an xbox controller. the safest place for the tank crew is in the tank. we even had platoon comms made impossible to hack without being at the tanks themselves. by using a wire and being OFF networks, only receiving not transmitting for platoon lead. but hey let's just make everything hackable and positions completely unsecure. the only time you are safe is when you are not on net. some nets are needed. others, not so much. it's also why am reluctant to GPS net-com systems. someone with the knowhow can watch with no one knowing very easily.
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It hasn’t mentioned the true British force multiplier: the boiling vessel (BV).
wich is part of the equipment of basicly every NATO tank since the 60´s, but the british think its something exceptional when they use it.
That is because we the British were the first tank force to use a boiling vessel. People need to look up the history of the boiling vessel. I and my regiment, the 2nd royal tank regiment were using the boiling vessel in lybya in 1959 but itwas used many years before. @@cathulhu-q7y
Can't go into battle without a cuppa! 😂
Not forgetting the accompanying T-MUG.
@@bulwinkle Tommy Tippee for the win! Can drink from it on the move and nobody will EVER steal it!
Britain is an island nation, and relies in its navy for the large scale power projection. What Britain will use their tanks for are small scale, high and low intensity fighting, where quality triumphs over quantity.
What navy joke funny joke.
@williamdodds1394 Yup, two aircraft carriers that are about as reliable as a 50 year old Austin Allegro, half the navy chasing drug boats in the Caribbean (nice work if you can get it) and the rest stooging around watching rubber boats washing up around Dover.
@@fus149hammer5 What country do you live in ?
@@fus149hammer5 It stands to reason when you get rid of skilled labour and close ship yards bad things will happen theve destroyed defence industry and just about everything else to foreign tenders.
@@dickdastardly5534 more like what country do you live in 😂😂😂 we have more terrorists on the watch list then we do actual military 😂 our country is fucked ....more military leaving than joining ... more money spent on illegals than what's spent on soldiers... housing illegals before housing ex service that are homeless.... yep fucking brilliant military and government
I think we all know this order will be scaled back, reduced and eventually cancelled entirely by the government due to budget cuts. We’ve seen it time and time again…
Yes totally agree because we are paying millions to house foreigners in hotels unfortunately
Certainly Starmer will cancel As soon as possible.
@@9Curtana He will need the money to pay for hotels etc for illegal migrants.
How may more tanks could be built for the £8,000,000 PER DAY wasted on these parasites.
At this stage it would be be breach of contract and the Government would have costly legal case costing more than completing contract. Also a large number of hulls have been modified already for upgrade.
@@9Curtana No he won't. If he did we would end up retaining 213 very elderly CR2s, and would have to pay swingeing cancellation fees to RBSL.
148 tanks is enough to fit the BUDGET . not the requirement
The British army has always been an expeditionary force. The main contribution the UK brings to its allies is in the air, at sea and logistical capabilities/expertise. It takes a huge amount of logistics to move an army packing 150 tanks any kind of distance
@@ricardosmythe2548Yeah well we can't even do that at the moment.
@@fus149hammer5 we most certainly could. The UK is far better equipped today to fight a war like the Falklands war than it was then. Influencers are working over drive to push for a bigger military for weapons companies profits
This is why Poland the biggest land barrier in the east of Nato is building a tank force that is equal in numbers but more advanced than Russia has, they can hold the line and within a week there would be Nato reinforcements there to help them. The UK simply doesn't need as many heavy MBT's we need fast air mobile Brigades with IFV's carrying medium 40mm cannons which have proven to outmatch even Russian T90's as Bradley's blinded some rendering them inoperable with just a 25mm cannon. Besides the lighter vehicles are far more use on peacekeeping missions which the Army does for more of.
The UK is an island, it provides carriers and nukes to Nato.
This may seem arbitrary but going below 400 tanks NATIONALLY sounds dangerous.
Is Chally 2, scheduled to serve alongside 3?
The UK is an island and any threat is thousands of miles away.
@@matthewnewell4517 France isn’t! 😂🤣
@@johnnunn8688
Lol 😂
they had 148 before sending some to Ukraine and the challenger 2 will be phased out as the way as the challenger 3 is a changer 2 chassis with a brand new turret so the uk will still have the same amount of tanks as before.
basically no new tanks are being manufactured from scratch they are just being severely modernised into the challenger 3.
We need at least 500 of these , bigger army , more ships and planes . All these defence cuts over the years need to be reversed .
Are you willing to pay more tax then to cover the cost of all that
We’re an island nation mate, we don’t need 500, if anything we need a larger navy, but there’s a difference between a standing army and a wartime army, we do not need a wartime army in peacetime.
How do you think we feel in Australia. We can't defend our country with the military resources available. Our government has been spending but it's still too little, too late. We are still totally reliant on America.
The businessmen & politicians have sold us out over the years to fill their own pockets. If full scale war does break out with a peer nation how would we keep up production numbers? Most of our factories are now in India, China & the US. We need to have our own industry & not just rely on service sector!
@@Spartan902 honestly though, what risk is Australia at? the only wars currently are Israel vs Iran/Iranian proxies and Russia vs Ukraine. They're both territorial conflicts. There are no Imperialist nations right now that are intent on taking over the world militarily.
Kuwait 🇰🇼 and Jordan 🇯🇴 interested aswell from 🇬🇧
UK's DM65 penetrated a T70+. It went through the frontal plates - the toughest part, through the engine block, and out the other side.
dude get your names straight.
DM63 and it was a T-72A.
And DM63 is a german designed and made 120x570mm APFSDS for the german made and designed RH120 L/55a1 of Leopard 2A6 and newer, wich now also gets adopted by the Challenger 3, a german designed and made upgrade to Challenger 2.
There is nothing UK in that
@@cathulhu-q7y It seems to be a troll account 🤦♂️😆 Don’t think I’ve ever seen someone trolling for the British Army before 😂
@@cathulhu-q7y Dude get your name straight. It was a T72B3 - possibly an M model.😎🤣
Should have ended with "tanks for watching"
Hasn't shocked anyone just the product of logical progressive evolution by talented engineers
Challengers have always been good tanks, there's just never been enough of them. No tank can survive air power, every challenger lost is a loss that literally can't be replaced because they're never going into production again. We need a whole new tank with a production count in the 500s
Fortunately very few Chally tanks have ever been lost to enemy action - no British crewed Challenger tank was ever destroyed by enemy fire. Only 1 or maybe 2 Ukrainian crewed Challengers have been destroyed.
Seriously, _can make successive shots by remote without a crew _*_or_*_ autoloader_ : you've been inhaling too many exhaust fumes. Oh yeah, the Tank-Fairy does it, I forgot.
It hasn't got an autoloader?!? But they make that claim? Surely must have an autoloader?
Yeah... we're going to need them before 2027/30
I bet Mr Heweswould love a ride in this Challenger 3
Very Good !! Fantastic !! Great for the Army !! BUT WHAT GOOD ARE 148 ???? IF WE HAD 900 LIKE THE CHIEFTAINS OF THE 70s I would agree ???
and germany had more than 5000 MBT´s in 1989
That is because Germany is in Europe on land and tanks cannot cross the English Channel or the north sea. In 1960 we had wired guided missiles that could knock out any tank even the best soviet ones. Look up British army history. It was called malkara .@@cathulhu-q7y
With new weapons like sensitivity training and reporting the use of bad language and sexist behaviour we will be ahead of the field of those beastly people who dare to call us names 🤷🏼
The plates on the side aren't state of the art armour, they're just stock track guards/bazooka plates. The real stuff is bolted on the outside.
Made thicker is why it was highlighted
Challenger 3: Is introduced in Warthunder
Warthunder forums: Releases Classified Documents on the challenger 3 via 'bug report'
You Tanker you couldn't even but the right picture of the tank on your front page. It is a Leopard tank!
Not to mention it showed Aires as ajax
No it’s a Chally 3
Rifled barrels allow us to use our HESH and depleted uranium rounds. We will still have some challenger 3s that are rifled too.
No need with modern programmable rounds, there's multi function rounds that can airburst, and go through walls before detonating and the AFSDS that is for tanks, HESH has had it's day and modern armour has largely rendered it less effective than firing AFSDS at them, besides it must be cheaper making AFSDS rounds than HESH as it's just a machined Tungsten dart wearing a sabot.
The army has no CR3s - they are being built, as we speak.
No we haven’t. Fact
The only round that requires a rifled barrel is the hesh round, APFSDS rounds (D.U) can be fired from a smooth bore gun. No challenger 3 will be fitted with a rifled barrel.
As the video stated, the Challenger 3 is getting a smooth bore gun as it allows them to use rounds used by the Abrams and Leopard. I think that this would also mean the Challenger 3 will also no longer need to use charges for propellant unlike the Challenger 2.
The ajax is many things but being light isn't one of them.
We wasted a lot of money with ajax buying cv90 off the shelf would have saved millions
Why if the video is about the Challenger3 do you show another tank in the thumbnail for this video, clearly the tank turret in the thumbnail is that of a leopard style armour which the challenger does not use.
The tank in the thumbnail IS the challenger 3
its the challenger 3 TD in the thumbnail
That is the chally 3 boss
Looks nothing like a leopard and it’s the chally 3
Tank You 😁
The tank itself when firing doesn’t seem to recoil all that much compared to what you see the Russians I’ve often wondered how they ever hit anything when they’re whatever they’re firing is moved so much by the firing process
By the time recoil affects the barrel the shell has already left.
CR2 does not lack speed. Due to its advanced suspension it is as fast cross-country as Leo2.
The paradigm of the tank being a force projector is being challenged by Ukraine. Obviously, the majority of Russian tanks are older so it isn't a direct comparison. The real question is "is the tank still relevant "?
We need 10 tanks at Aberdeen
Arbroath and Stirling and Edinburgh.
Oban Campbell town this would cover Scotland to any force attacking the shore line.
60 challenger 3 tanks
Ajax's
Boxers
Warriors
Scimitar light recon tank
Scorpions light recon tank
20,000 soldiers in Scotland either old or new barracks.
Russia isn't playing games
And a cheap drone can destroy it, plus no soldiers joining the army.
So it’s giant unmanned drone MBT
The only thing this government will give not only the army, but the navy and air force as well will be more cuts, and less equipment. 😢😢😢
Q: How would this new uber-heavy tank fare on battlefields such as the hellish winter mud in Ukraine?
Dont worry. The cart box built drones will augmented these Challenger mk.3 tanks.
This is a wonderful vehicle, especially because it is unmanned. Unfortunately, the tank is now obsolete; modern drone-led precision targeting renders it completely redundant.
Given the amount of £ the Govt is wasting on illegals & “foreign aid” it will be lucky to get 1 of these tanks !
Oh go away. Our GDP is £1.5 trillion, you really think a few million quid housing asylum seekers make that much a difference? And yeah, it's "asylum seekers" not illegal immigrants. Educate yourself
Given it is good, but how heavy is it?? We see in Ukraine NATO tanks are too heavy of the soft soil and winter
CR3 is about 1 tonne heavier than CR2 - about 72 tons. We do not design our tanks solely for fighting in Ukraine's soft mud.
Given how Russian tanks have been susceptible to drone attacks how sensible is it to even persist with MBTs at all?
I very much doubt that we are keeping a number of elderly CR2s in addition to the CR3s.
How an it be operated without a crew when it has no auto loader ?
What you mean is someone can press the fire button remotely.
Big deal!!’
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Because it is firing a single shell for test purposes only, that has been Loaded manually for the purpose of the test, it is not designed to be operated that way once in the field.
It's the 1930s all over again
I just wonder, when you lose 1 or 2 of these on the battlefield how long does it take to build replacements? Can building new ever keep up with battlefild losses?
Simple answer too long and no way could they be replaced in a timely fashion
Within the 148 figure is a small Attrition Reserve. It won't be enough.
when did they downgrade the armour of the Challenger II to Chobham?
it has “Dorchester” armour, the upgraded and far better armour.
Challenger 3 is the Challenger 2 upgraded with a new turret and other things.
It's almost an entirely new tank hence the "3".
How good is the Challenger 3 against the drone´s attack ?
Can TROPHY be effective against the Drone´s attack from TOP down ?
If the above two questions cannot be answered, then forget Challenger 3 in order to save money for other Tank-project which is better, moderner and more effective than Challenger 3 on the moderne battlefield in the future with the most dangerous threat from the air attacks by drones !
One challenger 2 survived many RPG hits and one had been knocked out by a landmine and a drone (mobility kill)
Considering the active protection systems can shoot down missiles and the one said to be being put on the challenger 3 can engage anti tank shells even if to a minor degree it should be able to shoot down drones or at the very least their munitions.
It's has the tec to bring down drones and missiles plus it has the furtherest kill.
It's not the Challenger 3 it's the Challenger 2a1 or Mk2 if you wanna use that instead.
Literally all it is, like me grabbing my AX50 rifle and rechambering it to say 408 Cheytac and saying hey it's a brand new rifle! *It's not!*
And before people say lah lah *I'M BRITISH OK* and this tank is the 2 Mk2 that's all
Clueless aren’t you. The turret is completely new, the chassis is stripped bare and suspension modernised and rebuilt. Just the hull is the same, and the engine with minor modifications
I heard Germany's Loepard has now taken the top spot in Tanks 😢
wrong, the rifled rounds are just as effective! the British army cant buy them anymore, that's why the smooth bore gun has been adopted. the L30 gun is still just as good...
The gun is reloaded by a little genie who is summoned if the BV rubbed, enabling the human crew to go down the pub, thus not permitting the war to interfere with valuable drinking time.
You need at least 1000 to 1500 or means nothing really
Better get your cheque book out - all available monies are being funnelled into hotel accommodation.
All sounds great. PR is working, lovely video. Except they seemed to have forgotten the current real wargame Ukraine. Would these lovely arms survive even a day in a drone environment? Perhaps this wasn't part of the PR brief. Suggest the tank crews aren't shown this for obvious reasons.
That’s what Iron Fist is for
Drones can be defeated and tanks can be protected against drones.
Have the Russians lost all their tanks after over 2 years, let alone one day? How about the Ukrainian army? You exaggerate.
If they can make a MBT work with no crew. Why not make it smaller so no crew is required like a drone?
The prototype CR3 gun was fired remotely with the crew removed to proof fire the new gun and ammunition. All worked well, so crew can get back in the tank.
The shock is the mod is buying less than a few hundred.Not even enough to defend the homeland.
We have never used tanks to defend the homeland. We invented the tank in WW1 for expeditionary operations, and it has always done that.
Lol just as well cause the uk army has more soldiers leaving than they do joining 5 years there will be no military😂
Shame there isnt the funding for many of these, but arent tanks now useless in a modern drone war?
Successive shots with no crew and no auto loader? Did I hear that statement of the unpossible?
Magnificent tank!
They should have all been turned in to challenger 3s.
As Russia is finding out you can run out of serviceable tanks fast if you don't have enough in reserve!!
lets hope it cant be hacked ^^
Bit dodgy putting the whole British Armys armoured capability together in one photo at 3;29
What.. that fact that it makes it's crew vomit 😮
The world's most powerful tank to serve in the British army?
Yes, what's wrong with that?
And the top of the tank no improvement in armour so a drone drops a charge on the roof and it's gone?
1:52 war thunder reference
For which war I wonder
Challenger 3 is a fill gap till a real new British MBT is made.
Doubt that the brits will make an independent MBT. most likely will work together with Germany and France. That being said. The brits were foolish enough to leave the EU so that could be problematic.
There won`t be a "British" new mbt, they long ago destroyed our infrastructure for doing so, our next tank will be foreign made.
We do not have the facilities to build any new tanks that will not happen we closed all our capacity for this .
so never. The UK will buy Leopard 3/MGCS when its done.
@@patrickrobinson-mh5jw Incorrect - RBSL have stated that production of complete CR3's can be undertaken should the requirement ( and money ) exist.
You spelled Telford wrong I live in Telford
Exactly how delusional are you trying to threaten Russia with a tank, no matter how modernized?!
We don’t need to threaten Russia, their armed forces are a joke, incompetent and corrupt, they just throw bodies at a problem. If they started a war with NATO they would last a matter of days
Then give some to Ukraine who will lose them in battle and the Russians will know its secrets😂😂
Do the RAF have F35’s? The B is the ski-jump carrier version and they have brought so few, the US Marines are sharing the two carriers capacity. US Air Force F35A’s operate out of Mildenhall or Lakenheath but the RAF use Typhoons and are developing the multi-role platform with Japan for future needs. The main problem with Britain is that we’ll run out of ammo after day 1 like they did with their cruise missile submarine. 😎😇
The UK has around 40 F35's at the moment.They are based at RAF Marham and are shared with the Royal Navy. Another 35 or so are on order, and the decision to take the number up to a final total of 138 aircraft has still to be taken.
@@sproutandkidneysoup2296 Thanks, I knew that RAF Harrier’s had gone to the Falklands on Illustrious and Hermes to supplement the Sea Harriers but assumed that was a wartime thing. For a proud military force to go the American WWII route towards a do everything ‘Army Airforce’ seems a retrograde step. Perhaps if things get really serious, they’ll launch Typhoons off the carriers Top Gun Maverick style with no intention of recovering them.
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@@gbphil Most of the F35's on HMS Queen Elizabeth and the Prince of Wales are UK aircraft, supplemented with a few US planes so we get used to communicating and understanding each other. It's a good relationship, and there are often US marines on the British carriers for the same reason. We may speak the same language, but there are nuances that can cause confusion.Working closely together reduces those differences of language interpretation, and collectively makes us stronger.
Yes, the RAF has F-35Bs, based at RAF Marham. They are used alongside FAA F-35Bs on our two carriers as a Joint Force. The RAF also has Typhoons (and other kit to).
@@gbphil We do not have an Army Airforce. Each service (RN, British Army, RAF) has its own aircraft. The army only operates helicopters though. I don't get the carrier launched Typhoon comment - we use RAF and FAA (ie RN) F-35Bs on our carriers.
Hardly a major capability to drool over when crew is needed to reload the gun!
Extra man for looking after the tank, guard duty etc and man more reliable as does not jam.
Id rather 1000 upgraded (40mm) CV90s than 500 tanks of any kind.
"Challenger 2 remains functional, but not competitive" you fail to cite exactly which tank it is outperformed by. so i call bollocks.... your options are Leopard and Abrams. so which is it?
Great for 700 main battle tanks.
Bring chieftain out of moth ball for the British isles
Chieftains were sold or scrapped 20-30 years ago. Its successor, CR1, have all gone too.
Won't happen, nesara gesara is on it's way. 1000 years of peace
Rule Britannia from Glasgow 😊💙🇬🇧😎👍
Not due in service until 2030, its an upgraded challenger 2, and of course its yet another game changer 'not ' someone tell me where this tank is going to see service , answers on a postcard.
It's an entirely new tank, cope. The new turret alone has room for a 140mm autoloaded gun.
You can't predict where the next war will happen. Our Challenger1s and 2s saw plenty of action. Do you doubt that tanks get used?
@grahammoore8967 where and against what ?
@@Alien9828 CR1 - we deployed 221 to the first Gulf War against T72s mostly. After the Gulf War, Challenger 1 tanks were also used by the British Army in Bosnia and Herzegovina and Operation Joint Guardian, the NATO-led drive into Kosovo. CR2 - Challenger 2 tanks were to support peacekeeping operations in Bosnia and Herzegovina and Kosovo.Challenger 2 was first used in combat in March 2003 during the invasion of Iraq. The 120 tanks of 7th Armoured Brigade, were used mainly against T54/55. Then 14 tanks gifted to Ukraine and used in Ukraine and Kursk region of Russia.
Every single tank ever made can have an automated trigger installed so you can fire the gun without anyone in the tank 🤦
The tank equivalent of tying sting around the trigger of a gun and pulling it remotely! Also I remember being 14 and bolting an M60e3 to a RC tank chasis and firing it *REMOTELY!* That technology isn't new jez H christ
Will wait to see it. Britain has always short change their defense programs and sold better versions abroad. It has to be disheartening for the Brit solders knowing better stuff is being sold to others then they get!
The CR2 was only exported in small numbers to Oman to the same spec as the BA ones,Ukraine was gifted 14 from BA stocks.
@@paultanton4307 Talking abut the Chieftain and Challenger to the Middle East, but there are other vehicles also!
Not really - the C2 is as good as any current main Battle Tank in the world.
The Typhoon us as good as any fighter in the world and even holds up against the F22
@@JoeyRay-fz1qe The Chieftain Tank was widely exported in the Middle East,that is correct - are you suggesting that they were of a superior spec to the BA ones ?.Ive covered CR2,but CR1 was never exported as such,they were gifted to the Jordanian Army when they went OOS with the BA,they had plans to upgrade them but AFAIK this was not carried out.
@@mrfrisky6501 Not saying Britain makes bad stuff but they buy the the cheaper version for their use while selling better stuff abroad!
Ajax is flawed. Should have been the CV90
Apart from the Ajax being awful it does not have an IFV version. So there is no Warrior equivalent . Boxer a wheeled vehicle replaces it but there is no IFV version for the Uk. So our troop carriers are only armed with machine guns or a 40mm grenade launcher. A backward step in many ways!!!
Ajax have six version . But Britain can't finish others. So why did yours need Ajax? KF41+ Boxer can provide all version to satisfied Military requirements.
Ajax is fixed according to press releases from the MoD a while back. All the major issues have been solved after 2 years of redesign they went full scale on production last year.
You are right on Boxer though, I think they should have had the IFV as standard with the CT40 turret which was designed for Warrior, those guys are gonnaa need more than machine guns and some grenades to hold out against BMP's etc. Typical MoD tbh underarmed platforms to save money just like the Royal Navy's Offshore Patrol Boats pushed into doing jobs well away from the UK with small arms and a single 30mm cannon, it's criminal. Then if there's deaths on operation and there's and inquiry the Brass pass the buck to the MoD who in turn back heel it to politicians none of whom take the blame.
The fact you call it awful, shows you're not involved with it in any practical way, or kept yourself up to date.
The issues are resolved, the crews like it.
Depends on who they plan on fighting, against a peer enemy they are screwed, against their own civilian population is a whole other story.
@@v4skunk739 🤡
Starmer & Ange will allow us to have about a dozen or so of these - of no FOXTROT UNIFORM use whatsoever!
We have ordered 148 and these are being built now. 148 is sadly a very low number.
not enough ..
Ta ks are old, submarines folow
No crew W T F are you thinking??????? NOT>>>>>>>
That was just for proof-firing the gun, for safety reasons. Of course the crew is normally in the tank.
Stop with the jittery video transitions, they are SO ANNOYING
No. DEFENCE, ARMOUR. MODERNISING, MECHANISED. and MAXIMISE
Why just upgrade Chalanger 2 tanks ??? Build more new ones too and start designing the next tank . The same goes with the Navy and Airforce build build and build our forces need everything !!! And keep politicians out they only ask for cuts and we end up with half a tank or other equipment . And uniforms made in China ? No everything made here !!! Not in any other Country . The American B52 has been going since the 60’s and will continue going for another 50 years . Why can’t we update and improve the Vulcan Bombers the Victor Bombers upgrade the engines new technology and prepare them for service and maintain them it needs done !!! We are sadly heading for a war and too many people sitting at home playing games on a PlayStation or watching the 1,000 channels on tv . They don’t care . Bring back National Service . Get the young men who are great with games and train them on drones and bombs etc train mechanics and electronic technicians . Build the Army and train young men and women if they want to serve the Country and make a strong military again and no more cutting budgets increase the Military budget by 3% per annum and get prepared . All that money lost to cronies making a train to nowhere Billions of pounds gone ! That should’ve gone to the Military NHS and Police . We need to waken up and see what’s going on in the World !!
No onboard tea maker? Shame!
You surely joke. All our tanks have had Boiling Vessels (BVs) since 1948.
AJAX !!! "a light recconaisance vehicle" !!! Do you realise it weighs over 32 tons already ! 🤔 Press the 3 dots and "do not reccomend this channel" ???
So behind in our military hardly any soldiers and behind on tanks and artillery compared to others. Russia China North Korea Iran Hamas the west care more about gender equality and eating fast food taking drugs and drinking alcohol. The respect has gone in the UK for sure we are not what we once was and most people here wouldn’t fight and the way our own government is treating the British the people want to fight our own country! Is a worrying future for us
Skipped through the whole video. It's all about Cr3, nothing about a new tank at all. Lying channel.
Yes... it has a smooth bore cannon, like the one on every other bloody tank A4, Abrams, LeClerc and South Koran K2. Firing the same amo that bounced off Challanger2's in the Gulf War. Sack off the German drainpipe, grow some balls and develop a 120mm CTA.
CHOBHAM!
It's not technically chobham armour, it's been upgraded to Dorchester.
@@mickylee82 Dorchecester
@@mickylee82 it's actually been upgraded again, Dorchester is what Challenger 2 has, Challenger 3 has 3rd Gen Farnham (internal) and EPSOM (External add-on) armour
The tank force is a joke, the whole lot could be lost within weeks by drone attacks,
honestly that looks so SO SO close to the abrams right?
Nope.
i dont think so
Well the Abrams get’s it’s defence system from it
Hmmmm, thumbnail seems very leopard ish for a chally 3 🤣
Apart from the shape,tracks and gun...yeah I suppose
More Drone fodder
why only 148? what a joke
Why only 148? Lack of money.
@@grahammoore8967 and lack of soldiers to drive them, hence maybe there're playing around driver less.
@@bitebaykon9948 No, thats not it. There is only some shortfalls in the tank units of manpower, and may not be any shortage of tank crews. The reason they fired the cannon remotely on this video is that it was to prove the safety of the cannon and ammunition (both new to British service) when integrated with a new tank, before introducing crew to the turret. This is standard procedure for any weapon that is new to British service. Now that the proving trial has finished, the tank is cleared to fire with crew on board.
Are tanks even viable on todays modern battlefield? Ukraine has shown that they're not particularly effective when faced with a few suicide drones.
Brits use Drone Jamming and only deploy heavy armour when they have air superiority and control the battlefield- something neither Ukraine or Russia are doing- hence the carnage
So we are spending this much money on a tank that can be taken out by a 500 dollar drone tanks are obsolete
Brits use Drone Jamming and only deploy heavy armour when they have air superiority and control the battlefield- something neither Ukraine or Russia are doing- hence the carnage
How many people have said tanks are dead?loads and they’re all wrong.
Tanks will evolve and in future the prophecy of the terminator movie will be sort of true ie the battlefield will primarily be AI machines/drones etc.
@@mrfrisky6501 jamming isn't as effective as it used to be and the government isn't investing in air defence systems mechanised and armoured units need
a 500 dollar drone that can be taken out by anti drone rifles tanks aren't obsolete people have been saying tanks are obsolete for decades and they've been consistently wrong
@Only1199 really because I've seen those russian anti-drone weapons and guess what they had it pointed at a drone and it had no effect its why 90% of the drones hitting russia get through
never before seen technology? except every boy. man. girl. woman. has seen it, played with it, or went to tournaments for it. it's just an RC car. and that's a significant problem. cause now, they can be hacked.
oh and i've seen RC tanks before with the controls. it's not impressive, it's worrying. as there's plenty of none pen tester coders and scriptors that have linked full sized cars to an xbox controller. the safest place for the tank crew is in the tank. we even had platoon comms made impossible to hack without being at the tanks themselves. by using a wire and being OFF networks, only receiving not transmitting for platoon lead. but hey let's just make everything hackable and positions completely unsecure. the only time you are safe is when you are not on net. some nets are needed. others, not so much.
it's also why am reluctant to GPS net-com systems. someone with the knowhow can watch with no one knowing very easily.
Crafted !! I've turned you off.
Now watch lie-bor cancel it