The Legacy of the French Revolution w/ Slavoj Zizek on Bastille Day | Jacobin Show
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Philosopher Slavoj Žižek joins The Jacobin Show on Bastille Day to discuss why the French Revolution still matters and how the Left today can embrace the the radical spirit of the Enlightenment.
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00:00 Happy Bastille Day!
4:44 Picnics Are Radical, Not Racist
13:50 C.R.L. James's Radical Universalism
28:53 Slavoj Zizek on the Legacy of the French Revolution
1:26:18 Rutger's University Labor Battle
Paul's segment on the Haitian Revolution and the Black Jacobins was excellent. Great job.
If anyone's a devoted red jumpsuit follower of Matt Christman or would like to join such a cult, he is currently guiding us through that CLR James classic marxist polemic, chapters 3-6 for next Tuesday only on chapotraphouse's Twitch (tm) (c) (r) and also TH-cam (r) (c) (tm) like a day-ish later. "Fun" fact (I think mentioned by Zizek at some point I wanna say to the late great Michael Brooks, but also proposed by Susan Buck-Morss if I recall): Hegel concocted his master|slave dialectic specifically from reading the various contemporaneous journalism on the Haitian revolution and particularly their triumphant singing of La Marseillaise over the defeated French.
edit: lol oops spoke too soon, he basically mentions that last part _in this very video_
@@Bisquick epic
Jen and Paul are my favorite Jacobin duo miss Ariel too hope she's having a happy new family
Zizek used to drive me crazy but I just didn't understand his dry Slavic humor. Once you get it he is hilarious. He is sometimes brilliant and sometimes kind of full it in my opinion, but he is almost always entertaining. Haters need to lighten up.
Yeah, he used to annoy me too, but then a Bosnian guy became my closest friend and now I get it 😂 I guess the history of ex-Yugoslavia just created a specific sense of humour that takes some getting used to. It's brilliant though!
Cheers from Poland. We eastern (Central) Europeans are like that... decades of getting fuked up by other super powers will do it to you ;)
Ah yes the 7 stages of learning to understand Slavoj Zizek. I know it well
It also helps to play him at up to 2xs faster as then it is easier to gloss over his starts and stops.
I love Jen Pan
I remember reading her in the New Republic in 2019 and thinking "This woman is brilliant and I hope she does podcasts." Glad to see her getting exposure with a (hopefully growing) left audience. Great addition to the Jacobin fam.
If you disagree with Slavoj Zizek it is because the symptoms of your ideological construct produce shame and manifest the sublime object in the form of your disagreement.
I just have a hard time listening to him for an extended period of time.
@@coldcoffee1506 there's a nine-hour clip of his lectures on Hegel, everything in life gets easier after you binge that.
But serious I definitely recommend his books, I just finished "Pandemic 1 Pandemic 2", so great
This is true
@@biometronome7010 would you recommend those as the first works of his for someone to read?
@@truecanadian8254 que? You're obviously some SJW
Come for Zizek. Stay for the ducks 1:42:14 🦆🦆🦆 Paul and Todd are such good sports! 😄🦆🦆🦆
big thanks for the subtitles! i'm not yet fluent in zizekese
In Canada, union picnics were important social events.
44:00 in relation with today situation
45:00 egalitarianism
1:00:30 enlightment
1:01:00 identity politics in Ukraine
Thanks, love Zizek
Best Zizek interview!
good interview
More Zizek!!
love zizek's take on the quasi-pro-worker movie "nomadland", great!
Wandering how the mainstream media don't invite such a good person... An intelectual open minded
anyone knows a link or name of those british documenty about paying Danton?
'The claim that the word picnic derived from lynching parties has existed in Black American communities for many years. Although many contemporary etymologists smugly dismiss this claim, it should be noted that there is a kernel of truth in this month's question. 9 The word picnic did not begin with the lynching of black Americans; however, the lynching of blacks often occurred in picnic-like settings.'
Dr. David Pilgrim
Curator
Jim Crow Museum
January 2004
Zizek likes to quote Robespierre (February 5, 1794): 'If the mainspring of popular government in peacetime is virtue, amid revolution it is at the same time virtue and terror: virtue, without which terror is fatal; terror, without which virtue is impotent. Terror is nothing but prompt, severe, inflexible justice; it is therefore an emanation of virtue. It is less a special principle than a consequence of the general principle of democracy applied to our country's most pressing needs.'
And out rolls the guillotine and Zizek says let me think about this again 🤦♂️😂
@@seanmoran6510 LOL! Zizek said the guillotine was not used a lot.
@@benoitguillette8945 I think Robespierres distractors would disagree
Or does the blood of Danton mean nothing to Zizek
@@seanmoran6510 detractors you mean
@@benoitguillette8945 Yes I do
Thank you
I guess you don’t think the guillotine was used a lot
Terror is the Oder of the day
Does anyone know the British memoir regarding the Russian revolution he mentions around the 50 minute mark?
Could be wrong, but I think it's probably 'Dispatches From the Revolution
Russia 1916-18' by Morgan Philips-Price
Very entertaining
In India a sophisticated Bastille is being made.
if yall already have a subscription but could pay for more, see if you could get one for your local library or schools or random shops or whatever
ducks are comrades, geese are kulaks
Yes! Thank you. Finally somebody said it 💯
wait which bookstore in portland wuts it called
Lol the picnic thing Its funny because in Britain it's a common word
Zizek is right about that, Vancouver Island is basically a retirement home for rich reactionaries - albeit the people under 60 who live here, are usually more left, and we have a decently high union density.
28:55
lol subtitles for jacobins says "draco beans"
Eliminating words from the vocabulary is so strange and arbitrary. Why picnic? Why not "tree?" Or "flower?" I don't even know how a teacher from another country can explain to her student that the word "picnic" has negative connotations. When I heard the explanation it made no sense to me. It did however make me wonder, why Americans want to erase their history, 1984 style?
Antonio Gramsci knew the Soviet Union was a disaster as soon as he saw it
51:35 Alfred Knox - 'With the Russian Army' (1921) ? (Internet Archive - 2 Volumes, ~800pp)
is this the book he mentioned?
@@dwightdraper2767 That was just a guess. I was hoping someone might confirm. If you read it, let us know !
Žižek: ”they heard some singing and said ’this must be some tribal songs’”
*strange music starts playing*
ice cream truck music freaks zizek out apparently
Does anyone ever wonder if Zizek is fundamentally against popping an Allegra?
I am in love with the announcer in the ad about wireless charger
I'd rather forget about it & go on down to Chomskytown.
Shlavoj
As the indentured were acquired to populate the America's the vast majority of the proletariat were not fluent in French. The term picnic, has been perverted, but for many foundational blacks in America is directly associated with brutality.
I don't negate that but here is the problem I see. Racism was part of every aspect of society and picnics were just incidental not a necessary component or outcome to/of the racism. So if we erase everything that happened to exist in the same time period, we will not be able to communicate.
Is there another way to handle this?
I do think it's important to know why the university put out that list. Like maybe they have a white supremacists situation on campus and want to alert people to coded language. So in that sense it would be helpful. And frankly I don't trust their framing that this was word policing necessarily.
Of course Americans think they invented picnics, even if they see it as a bad thing that they did.
uuuuuh SHLAVOY
yo, Zizek needs a better microphone
Rousseau 🙄
What to do in face of catastrophic processes like planetary warming and ongoing pandemic?
The question should come up, what aspects and structures, that may or may not be hosted in a context of Communism, can be developed, to avoid the kind of failure, that Stalin experienced with the Holodomor?
Because there were two forces at work, that ruined everything:
1) Tyranny developed much faster than any measures of relief and comprehensice paths of solution. Group think dominated science, and the one who was the most skilled snake oil peddler, convinced the leading politicians best.
2) We need some "genetic algorithms" (in the meaning of applied AI) to sort things out. We cannot do it with a monoculture, neither climate nor viral pandemics. We need to invoke a myriad of processes that even can compete each other. Anything else will most likely fall short. And these processes will be locally diverse. You cannot have that sort of Universalism that wants to impose the same process for the whole planet. You cannot have equality in outcome, only synergy in motivation.
Glad I can actually watch a jacobin video I won’t watch anything with Anna on the panel.
ah man, I really would like to subscribe to Jacobin again but decided not to give them any money as long as Ana is a host
Watch the newest Weekends episode, especially the Michael Brooks clips at the end and get over yourself.
Yeah I can’t stand Ana either. Jacobin is good 👍 but I can’t listen to her shape-shifting narcissistic millionaire @ss
people disappoint. gotta take it in whole
jen pan is a babe
Political Vulgarity - I've got some of that (In production).
Give me Voltaire over Rousseau any day of the week
That’s if you lot haven’t abolished the weeks or the months in your search for Utopia
It’s USA so let’s call it The French Fries Revolution
Chads lift fat stacks of jacobin mags 💪💪💪
I tried reading "The Sublime Object of Ideology" and found it to be completely incomprehensible.
The problem of utopia is that it can only be approached across a sea of blood, and you never arrive.
Peter Hitchens
Sea of blood is the definition of history all along. So Peter Hitchens is wrong on that one. The problème with *whatever* is that can only be approached across a sea of blood ...
"Increasingly I'm convinced that in a primitive society someone like me would have been clubbed to death quite early on just for being annoying.”
― Peter Hitchens
Bosh.
Why simp for Robespierre but not Stalin or Mao?
I'm not gonna simp for Stalin or Mao, but I'll simp for Castro and the Republic of Cuba! And I'll happily praise the numerous achievements of USSR and PRC, even if they made/make mistakes via authoritarianism. I can praise their huge economic achievements while still having issues with their lack of freedom of speech and assembly and press. I'm not even gonna criticize the fact their governments are led by a single Communist Party, even if I do actually have somewhat of a problem with this, simply because I absolutely see the utility in having a state that is led by a party, although I think that once a party implements revolution and creates a Workers' State, there should be other parties allowed to run on equal footing with the revolutionary party (just no capitalist parties allowed). The USSR didn't really have this, nor does China have this. We should be able to critique prior socialist projects where they should be critiqued while defending them from capitalist overthrow and praising them for their accomplishments. Cuba isn't perfect, but it has accomplished so much even through the constant attempts of the most powerful capitalist country in the world to overthrow the revolution, lack of access to resources (thanks to the goddamned embargo), and decades of anti-Cuban and anti-Communist propaganda. #CubaLibre
Is it really pronounced SHLAH-voy?
yes
A true revolutionary should be ready to perish in the process
Maximilien Robespierre
Out rolls the Guillotine
Zizek and co and 76k subscribers say
Let me think about this again 😂
Wrong again
Zizek
Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them
Note to Jen Pan. Slavoj can describe his own notes using the self deprecating term “psychotic”, that’s entirely fine. Your using the term isn’t “cute & funny”, it’s profoundly disrespectful.
Didn’t bother watching based on this first 10 sec Red Flag of the arrogant & dense.
Plenty of other high quality Slavoj Žižec to read & hear, coupled with intelligent interviewers (check out Pulitzer Prize winning Chris Hedges On Contact RT Part 1 interview this week with Slavoj 👌🏼)
How can you pronounce Slovenia correctly but butcher Slavoj?🙃