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- How to buy retro consoles, games, and gear from Yahoo Auctions Japan using the Buyee proxy service and (maybe?) save a bunch!
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00:00 Introduction
01:18 Shopping for a Saturn
04:24 Now we need games
06:02 …and a mouse?
06:18 Things are getting out of hand (Roland SC-55 mkII)
07:34 Shipping costs and package consolidation
10:33 Unboxing
20:20 Testing the Saturn
26:29 Testing the SC-55
30:28 Possible Downsides
31:47 Adding it all up and Conclusion
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Thanks for the video! Being in the US, you have the benefit of not having to pay customs and import taxes. In Finland, we’d have to add roughly one third of the sum of price and shipping to the grand total to cover customs and taxes. Even then, it’s pretty lucrative.
Was thinking about the same since I'm from Denmark and have to struggle with customs and import taxes as well... Would love to hear about the experience from people from this part of the world 😀
Same in Sweden. Pay local tax on international shipping is non-sense.
Same in Portugal. They say it's because of fair competition... we're buying old junk and still pay taxes on old stuff lol.
“I blame Rees” you my friend, are not alone.
I now have two Atari ST’s.
What can I say, I'm an influencer 😆
Japanese sellers always take the best care with packaging in my experiences collecting, seems like a cultural attitude difference to the west.
I did the same thing through Buyee and Yahoo auctions near the beginning of the pandemic not knowing what I was in for. I won an auction that came with a boxed N64, loose N64, PSX-DVR, PS2, PS3, GameBoy, boxed Super Famicom, loose Super Famicom, loose GameCube. I think that was it, plus cables and some controllers. I think it came to around $150..... Until shipping came into play. I went with the cheapest option, it arrived at the warehouse. Then they denied me the shipping option I went with that was around $400 that they initially had agreed to. On top of that, they demanded I get it within 30 days or it would be discarded. I was soo pissed. I ended up spending around $800 in the end and rather than flown in, they shipped it. On a boat. It arrived about a month later all beat up, the side was dented and knocked off of the PSX-DVR (the main item I actually wanted), the cables were filthy and the GameBoy was missing. I know there are some success stories but I don't think I'll ever do it again.
Oh man, that is rough. Sorry to hear your experience was the opposite of mine. Shipping is the killer for sure. I found that when I consolidated all my small items into a bigger box, the cheaper shipping options (by boat) disappeared.
Excellent video !. Really appreciate how detailed and the valuable information you just delivered. Thanks a lot !!!!
Exactly how I got my SoundCanvas. Japanese auction. Was soo cheap.
I use Zenmarket and have had nothing but good experiences with them. Shipping is great and packing is top tier. For most shipments I choose the upgraded protection packaging.
I've bought items on eBay for years, and I've never received a shipment as well-packaged as that Saturn. Japanese shipping is no joke - they know how to do it right.
Hah yea, half the things I buy on eBay don't have any padding at all and many arrive broken. Shipping from Japan may be pricey, but at least you know your item will arrive in one piece!
Very informative video, thanks for making it! I didn't know anything about this before and am now quite excited to try it out myself :)
I don't know man. I have tried to use those Japanese auctions on multiple occasions now failing to ever win. I bought my Saturn for $17 plus $9 in shipping off of evil Bay as a junk console. I just had to make a slight adjustment for the laser but other than that it works like a charm. Granted that's not in the box but it did come with one controller that works all right. This is a great video however, and great to see this type of information shared!
Good deal on the Saturn! Yea, one thing I didn't mentioned is that a lot of Japanese sellers sell the same exact items on eBay. Some good deals can be found but other items are marked up a bunch for the export market (e.g. X68000 computers). Definitely worth comparing both sites before buying.
I went this route back in 2009 or so to get my AV Famicom and Super Famicom. At the time I don't think domestic prices on the systems were too bad but a lot of the more "recognizable" games were more expensive, but I was able to get a lot of the ones I was interested in (Rockman series, etc) pretty cheap. The SFC itself wasn't working at first, but it just needed a replacement fuse.
Yeah the shipping thing with Buyee is a bummer. Sometimes it's cheaper, I bought a 14" monitor and had it shipped for 150 bucks. Now after buying another 15" monitor I was quoted ...get this... 370 BUCKS. It's always a surprise but not necessarily a great one.
Yeah you should be perfectly fine running Japanese game systems on American power. It works perfectly fine. I use tons of various Japanese systems & have never once had a problem, nor have the vast majority of ppl who do so. & yeah lol naturally the Composite cable is only going to have 3 pins as it's only using 3 signals. One for Composite video & two for the stereo audio channels. That's pretty standard for most Composite cables for any system. & yes the system does indeed output RGB so you'll definitely want to utilize that. Congrats on the awesome purchase! You'll definitely want to get one of those carts that allows you to play different region games as well as burns! They are cheap & worth every penny.
Great video, I'm really enjoying your videos, they keep getting better and yeah defo didn't need a new marketplace to temp me!
I think here in the UK we would also have import tax to pay. I may be wrong.
Power supplies can take a 20% voltage change anyway, so something rated for 100v should handle 120v anyway. And the Saturn is even better, as their internal power supply is rated for 100-120 volts, meaning Sega likely reused the same part in the US and Japan, as it's cheaper to design one power supply and mass produce it.
Truly rare stuff- like the commodore max, or the vic 1001, is very expensive on buyee (89,500 yen (US$712.42) for the vic). I think Japanese sellers are onto this!
I've got an alert set up for the Commodore Max and they certainly do go for crazy prices, especially boxed and with software. That said, right after I posted this video, someone was able to scoop up a working machine for around $200 which I think is pretty reasonable. I'll keep waiting for that good deal to come my way :)
Matt what a shame not to blast some more castlevania tunes on that Roland 👌👌👌
you sound like a child on christmas day when you're opening those packages. Great purchases and as always awesome content. Keep them comming and more like this please they are very amusing to watch
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! It was, as you say, a lot of fun for me too :)
Japanese people seem really take care of their items, so their used items tend to be more complete (in terms of boxes, packaging, paperwork, cables, accessories) and in excellent condition.
OMG!!!! TY!!! TY!!! I went to yahoo auctions right after your video yesterday and made a account on Buyee. First thing I searched for was my dream machine, the Max - 04. There was one at 13,000 yen ($86) with 24 hours left. I just won it for 30,126 yen ($232)!
Congrats on the Max, awesome score!
I bought some items on Buyee earlier this year, and I didn’t like the multiplication of small fees (fees to add money to the kitty, fees to verify the item, fees to repackage, etc.). I also misread one of the auctions which included only the manual and no game :(
But it was a learning experience. I still prefer buying small lots of broken stuff with hidden, interesting items on eBay, if only to save on shipping ;)
Damn that midi sounds nice. Really wish I could find an m32Pi available somewhere...
Wow, the Roland really blew me away!
I might now… I’ve been wanting to get into retro hardware for a long time but there too expensive on eBay!
check the caps on the roland as some can leak
Here in Japan it used to be Hard Off was the place to go. Now Yahoo Auction is the new Hard Off.
It's a slippery slope! Im hoping to get over to japan soon and just dump my clothes there so theres room to bring stuff back
Hrm, maybe you're on to something there!
Another point to consider: Import tax.
It was cheap but with youtubers the last 6 years raising awareness its expensive especially after shipping etc everyone is buying
Matt your videos are great, but so dangerous for my wallet! Japanese packing is just amazing, I think it must be a core class in school over there. :)
That's freaking awesome! I always wanted one of those Roland Sound Canvas units. Where did you get the MIDI adapter for the MISTer by the way? Oh & what is that large Xbox dongle sticking out of the MISTer? Just curious.
The "MiSTer MIDI" interface is sold by a website called "Legacy Pixels". It connects to the serial port on the I/O board. You can also use a Roland UM-One or equivalent USB interface. The large dongle is in fact for an Xbox controller :)
@@retrobitstv Ah ok cool. I will have to look into that. Thanks!
You can still use bubble wrap that is ripped.
I haven't used Buyee yet, but I can tell you going to game stores in Japan is a weird experience. Lots of games that are uncommon/expensive in the US, are in the 100 yen bin(~$1) in Japan. I love Intelligent Qube for the Playstation, but it's like $100 here, but a few years ago I was in japan and it, along with the sequels were $1 each
Anyway, I blame you for my future Buyee purchases that I'm sure are happening soon!
Iam now waiting on my first order. Hope customs won't fuck me big time! I got an Gameboy color and 3 psp's (1 black, white and blue)
i have this same addiction. please send help.
> i have this same addiction. please send *hardware*
FTFY ;)
This is weird - I was just on ZenGarden yesterday wondering why a complete Sega Saturn, was the same price as the Saturn Pad I was looking at on a UK website. - now a Roland sound module - that would be nice. - What is the best option for a Saturn ODE? - I have not kept up with all the options these days.
I've not really looked into replacing the drive yet, but I see that the Fenrir ODE pops up a lot in discussion about the Saturn.
Terraonion MODE. lots of bells and whistles plus harddrive support so you can toss the entire library on a silent cool running SSD. It really handles saves nicely as well.
If all you want is a simple menu and to play the games then Fenrir or Rhea/Phoebe are both fine. The Satiator also exists, but I'd only recommend it if you want to be able to play original disc's along with the ODE. The Satiator is expensive, but being able to just pop it into the video expansion slot on any stock Saturn is neat.
Even when I buy on US Ebay from a Japanese seller, I am always pleasantly surprised how well the sellers package. Not to knock the American or European sellers... but Japan has things "wrapped up" really well when it comes to shipping. :)
I think that they must actually have a warehouse in the U.S.A.; I don't see how this could be shipped to the U.S.A. from Japan otherwise.
Damnit. Now I have to go and buy more MIJ guitars.
Dang, I have two Saturns in a box somewhere. I ought to sell them lol.
Well they aren't getting any cheaper, especially if they're North American models! Sell one and hang on to the other?
Were those World of Warcraft sound effects at the beginning?
That would be funny if they were, but I got them from a generic sound effect pack :)
What about customs and VAT? Here in germany, you have to pay both in addition for almost everything that doesn't come from inside the EU.
Same for UK, it sucks importing stuff.
Kommen natürlich noch 19% + DHL Gebühren drauf..... lohnt sich also nicht
@@mark_1448 Sadly, it's the same problem with imports from the UK since brexit. I used to order quite a lot of retro stuff from the UK (from TFW8B for example), but I'm hardly doing it anymore because taxes and customs as well as DHL's handling fee on top of it all make it too expensive in most cases.
That's a bummer. I didn't have to pay any extra import duties or fees beyond what I showed, but I'm sure every country is going to be slightly different.
@@retrobitstv Plus it can happen that customs keep it. You then have to drive to some customs center and spend half a day filling out forms and paying extra money to get the item.
Weird. You can get super old hard to find items for dirt cheap, while brand new hard to get new items will still cost you an arm and a leg!
Even the original rev of Playstation is bigger than you think.
X68000 is no cheaper than $500. Now they average around $1,200. Fujitsu FM-8 cost over $600. A working FM-Towns Marty is no cheaper than $300. Besides the PC Engine and Famicom, what low prices on Buyee/Yahoo Auctions?
Jesus! Those shipping fees absolutely kill it for me. I much prefer to use the super slow super cheap Economy shipping option for international orders, but that doesn't look like it's an option here. I'd MUCH rather wait a couple months & pay a lot less than pay a ton just to have it arrive sooner. Shame they don't offer this. I just have never been able to justify wasting a ton of money just to ship something.
Yeah there was definitely a shipping sticker shock even after consolidating the packages. Cheaper ground transportation was available as an option for the individual smaller packages, but I didn't think to screencap those costs so I didn't have them to compare to the consolidated shipping :( Since I was trying to make a video within a 2-week period, I didn't have time for the long wait anyway!
@@retrobitstv Ah I see, well it's good to know that it's an option either way. Thx for letting me know :)
Shhhhhh! You're gonna tip our hand!
As soon as I heard "Japanese Auctions" my mind went straight to the x68000. What can I say?
Believe me I have looked at more than a few of them already!
Yep, your doomed! 2 x x68000, 3 x early nec Japan only home computers and many handhelds later, you only just started Grasshopper! Enjoy your haul and keep up the great content!
Haha nice! I did try to bid on a complete and fully refurb'd XVI in original box with accessories and software but it went for over $3500 o.O
Now imagine if you actually lived in Japan & could get these deals yourself. It's no wonder so many Japanese ppl are in the business of exporting Japanese Retro gaming goods to foreign customers! Hell if I lived in Japan I'm pretty sure I'd be doing the same thing as a side hustle.
When Japan Yahoo take away european bidder from the platform,that the solution from us to buy stuff and more........
i won a sega saturn joystick on there, their bidding is annoying because there's no real sniping as bids add more time to the clock
That sounds great lol.
dude delete this please, ruining the secret for the community and they are mad
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