This video is very informative, especially on some finer details. Both presenters are excellent. The engineering that goes into these laptops is mind-blowing.
Super informative...i have the p1 Gen 3....the new screen size, audio, and security features (biometrics) make this purchase almost a no-brainer....the only thing holding me back is the fact that my p1 Gen 3 is just so dang reliable, I've never had any issues with it.
This... is incredibly disappointing to hear. For me Lenovo's keyboard was the ONLY reason to choose the X1 Extreme over Dell, HP, Asus, Acer, and MSI's workstations. Now that reason is gone, I'll have to consider other options. HP ZBook Studio and MSI Creator Z16 are looking really good, I'm not a fan of redesigned XPS keyboards either. Now instead I will probably buy the redesigned MSI Creator, it looks fantastic with their usual good keyboard. I hope Lenovo reads these feedback, sees some sense, and switches back from "mediocre" to a "great" keyboard on ALL their recently disappointing Thinkpads. Because Lenovo, you've just given up your only advantage against competing brands.
1.5mm vs 1.8mm is not a world of change if they also tweaked the way the keys actuate - i think it makes good sense. i'd rather have a slimmer device than the 3mm of key travel that can be replicated in a 1.5mm setup
Another amazing piece of equipment that I will never be able to get my hands on :D .. Nevertheless .. Incredible job guys. I would honestly call this a perfect laptop for 2021.
true I had also noticed that. However, when upgrading the m.2 ssd on my x1 extreme I also noticed that there is the same material sandwiched between the ssd and the pcb. I wonder why would you want to conduct heat towards the PCB.
The day I bought the Y410P I spent almost 6 months of my salary to get it. When I used the battery management software the battery would not charge upon plugged in, I had to remove the battery, boot the pc and replug the battery in for it to charge and be recognized and Lenovo would not recognize it as as a software error on their part to fix it. I have been very afraid to purchase anything lenovo since then. These thinkpads are barely the mobile workstations when you can get something similar for less than half the price. Businesses can write off huge taxes to purchasing these products and they have these junks priced accordingly. For the consumer I recommend purchasing these second hand or purchasing other machines altogether.
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@@Lenovo i bought that laptop in 2015 and have had bad experience on that and after multiple reachouts your team failes to solve anything. Specially when it was your software that cause that. I have committed myself to never buying Lenovo again. Except used thinkpads. When you think about it, i literally spent 6 months of my earnings and chose your laptop over macbook pro 2012 , and other gaming laptops. I had the i7-4700qm, 1600*900 or 1080 upgrade for 75 dollars , 8gb ram and another upgrade to gt 755m ,
@@ec_archive In the past there was a difference in supported graphic cards. X1 only had regular Nvidia graphic cards and P1-line only had Quadro-graphic cards.
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Weird that the psref has the Xeon version limited to 6 cores and no 8 core option. I really hope there is a video output MUX to allow display outputs via USB-C to be directly connected to the Intel iGPU and optionally switched to dGPU. Looks really good otherwise, though I'm suspicious of the keyboard's reduced travel (1.8 to 1.5mm). A higher refresh rate screen with Freesync 2 pro would have been a good bonus.
great video. would love to purchase this laptop, but I can't find anything on the battery. I'm guessing it's the achilles heel of the higher power models because they didn't mention much about it. I'm an animator looking to use the quadro card so it would be great if this works as a dialy driver.
60hz, and frankly you don't need more. 120hz just eats battery life, and if you are so inclined, all prior generations of these machines have allowed end user panel swaps and many owners run 120hz FHD panels in their prior P1/X1E machines.
@@henryatkinson1479 Most high-refresh laptops give you an option to automatically switch to 60/30Hz to save battery. As an occasional gamer, I would've at least liked to see an option for 500nit QHD 165Hz panel like many gaming laptops use.
I have one ordered. When I ordered, the estimated shipping date was September. Now it says i will ship in January. It seems the supply chain issues are more serious than we thought, plus Lenovo's shipping dates are unreliable to begin with. Guessing it will be a while until anyone gets their hands on these.
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Update here, yes I did purchase using the Lenovo online store. I have messaged @Lenovo on Twitter and they said that the shipping dates were inaccurate and they will ship as soon as they are ready. It seems like it's gonna take a while
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@@jm.aurelio27 Thats the P1 Gen4, not the P15 Gen2 or P17 Gen2. They are not the same. Go read the full press release and the PSREF pages before commenting and making yourself look like an idiot. EDIT: Also once you spec a P15 or P17 its going to be just as expensive or more expensive than the P1. The P1 has a higher base price since it has a higher base spec. Its always been that way.
Alright, I have a little bit of research on the P15 Gen 2 and P17 Gen 2, they almost have the same specs as the P1 Gen 4, but the difference was there is no 16:10 aspect ratio, vapor cooling is questionable, and it is way cheaper than the P1, so that's why the features are cut off from the other two. I totally get your point 👌 *I am talking about the P1 Gen 4 of course*
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You're welcome and thanks for showing interest in our product. Please keep an eye on our website for the specs and availability of ThinkPad P1 Gen 4 mobile workstation. Have a great day and keep safe! Rai_Lenovo
Imagine a video about a new promising car, where 2 employees just talk about it for 15 minutes, show it from one inconvenient angle only, then disassemble the engine, but never actually turn it on or show how it drives - makes total sense, right?! I know this is not a full review, but spending time&effort on advertising new 16:10 without actually showing it working - why?! Apple would def do the opposite, thus 1000x sales. And c'mon - this PR video is in 1080p - could at least use QHD(won't even mention 4k). Lenovo is selling $$$$ products but can't deliver their marketing material in the modern standard.
@@henryatkinson1479 and? At the end of the day it's just a tool. Go have a look at any Ford-F150 commercial - this video should've be concentrated on visual demonstration of the practicality of the device, instead it makes me feel like I'm standing too close to these 2 'story-telling' dudes with a turned-off laptop. Spill-resistant? Pour some liquid on it. 16:10? Perfect, turn that screen on. Am I asking too much from a $3k device tour?!
Its concerning how at the end they said that IF they do this they can build a fan that picks up no dust. BUT they make no mention that that is indeed what they did with the P1 Gen 4. Very deceptive there. Very much Amerikan style "marketing".
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Finally, it took "only" 10 Years to switch back to 16:10 aspect ratio. I am really happy about it. P1 Gen 4 will be my next laptop! Thanks Lenovo
Would love to see these types of overviews for other P series, T series and X series models. Great stuff!
For sure
This video is very informative, especially on some finer details. Both presenters are excellent. The engineering that goes into these laptops is mind-blowing.
I would take this machine over the new M1 Max Macbooks every day of the week...
Super informative...i have the p1 Gen 3....the new screen size, audio, and security features (biometrics) make this purchase almost a no-brainer....the only thing holding me back is the fact that my p1 Gen 3 is just so dang reliable, I've never had any issues with it.
Nice design; too bad they didn't turn the unit on. Also, Gen 4 key travel is 1.5mm, down from 1.8mm in the Gen 2 & 3 models.
This... is incredibly disappointing to hear.
For me Lenovo's keyboard was the ONLY reason to choose the X1 Extreme over Dell, HP, Asus, Acer, and MSI's workstations. Now that reason is gone, I'll have to consider other options. HP ZBook Studio and MSI Creator Z16 are looking really good, I'm not a fan of redesigned XPS keyboards either. Now instead I will probably buy the redesigned MSI Creator, it looks fantastic with their usual good keyboard. I hope Lenovo reads these feedback, sees some sense, and switches back from "mediocre" to a "great" keyboard on ALL their recently disappointing Thinkpads.
Because Lenovo, you've just given up your only advantage against competing brands.
1.5mm vs 1.8mm is not a world of change if they also tweaked the way the keys actuate - i think it makes good sense. i'd rather have a slimmer device than the 3mm of key travel that can be replicated in a 1.5mm setup
@@Multihunter95bg Maybe this 0.3mm less is just because of the keyboard "Soft Landing" design? 8:23
So maybe it's just better?
Turn it on, give it some stress, measure with db meter, internal temp sensor and infrared.
Another amazing piece of equipment that I will never be able to get my hands on :D .. Nevertheless .. Incredible job guys. I would honestly call this a perfect laptop for 2021.
13:20 it's thermal conductivity, not insulation!
true I had also noticed that. However, when upgrading the m.2 ssd on my x1 extreme I also noticed that there is the same material sandwiched between the ssd and the pcb. I wonder why would you want to conduct heat towards the PCB.
@@emilemouannes2236 Because PCB will dissipate it better and is pretty heat-indifferent by itself.
I want to see some reviews about noise... my P72 has a lot and i want to change soon :)
simple but strong!
The day I bought the Y410P I spent almost 6 months of my salary to get it. When I used the battery management software the battery would not charge upon plugged in, I had to remove the battery, boot the pc and replug the battery in for it to charge and be recognized and Lenovo would not recognize it as as a software error on their part to fix it. I have been very afraid to purchase anything lenovo since then. These thinkpads are barely the mobile workstations when you can get something similar for less than half the price.
Businesses can write off huge taxes to purchasing these products and they have these junks priced accordingly. For the consumer I recommend purchasing these second hand or purchasing other machines altogether.
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@@Lenovo i bought that laptop in 2015 and have had bad experience on that and after multiple reachouts your team failes to solve anything. Specially when it was your software that cause that. I have committed myself to never buying Lenovo again. Except used thinkpads. When you think about it, i literally spent 6 months of my earnings and chose your laptop over macbook pro 2012 , and other gaming laptops. I had the i7-4700qm, 1600*900 or 1080 upgrade for 75 dollars , 8gb ram and another upgrade to gt 755m ,
It was actually 2014
They finally pulled it off: They created the laptop of my dreams!
When is the X1 Extreme Gen4 coming out?
X1E G4 is the same exact thing as the P1 G4, so it's possible that it got folded into the P1 entirely.
@@ec_archive In the past there was a difference in supported graphic cards. X1 only had regular Nvidia graphic cards and P1-line only had Quadro-graphic cards.
the X1 Extreme Gen 4 is coming out in mid-August 2021!
It's out now, and available for purchase in most countries including the U.S.
Incredible workstation. Looking forward to get one
Kevin Beck always innovating business. Greetings from Cozumel.
Excellent sharing! Very informative! Cool device!
Rip thiccpad
Hello.
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Mine arrived with a non-working fan. Lenovo your QC needs to be tightened up a bit!!
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Can I press down on the trackpad anywhere including the top portion? Or is it still an uncomfortable paddle style lever?
Weird that the psref has the Xeon version limited to 6 cores and no 8 core option.
I really hope there is a video output MUX to allow display outputs via USB-C to be directly connected to the Intel iGPU and optionally switched to dGPU.
Looks really good otherwise, though I'm suspicious of the keyboard's reduced travel (1.8 to 1.5mm).
A higher refresh rate screen with Freesync 2 pro would have been a good bonus.
İs this good for gaming?
İ like the feautures of this but the graphics of the legion 7
Apparently the thinkpad has better cooling grr
Greetings from NYC, Kev.
Great to see you guys again :) greetings from Germany #LenovoIN
great video. would love to purchase this laptop, but I can't find anything on the battery. I'm guessing it's the achilles heel of the higher power models because they didn't mention much about it. I'm an animator looking to use the quadro card so it would be great if this works as a dialy driver.
Will the display has high refresh rate?
I just read the specs on lenovo website, it's only 60hz, disappointing of course
@@Skylinez999 it's not a gaming laptop bruh
@@TyNguyen-kp5kg I mean, look at MSI z16, it's a workstation laptop too but has 120hz display
60hz, and frankly you don't need more. 120hz just eats battery life, and if you are so inclined, all prior generations of these machines have allowed end user panel swaps and many owners run 120hz FHD panels in their prior P1/X1E machines.
@@henryatkinson1479 Most high-refresh laptops give you an option to automatically switch to 60/30Hz to save battery. As an occasional gamer, I would've at least liked to see an option for 500nit QHD 165Hz panel like many gaming laptops use.
so they're designed in Japan, huh?
interesting
Where did you get that?
@@robertwalker2677 0:50
@@NOSFERATU_ONE Thanks.
What’s about pwm effect in new displays? Completely absent?
Has anyone received shipment of these things yet??? I can't find a single review of the P1 Gen 4 online and it is September
I have one ordered. When I ordered, the estimated shipping date was September. Now it says i will ship in January. It seems the supply chain issues are more serious than we thought, plus Lenovo's shipping dates are unreliable to begin with. Guessing it will be a while until anyone gets their hands on these.
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Update here, yes I did purchase using the Lenovo online store. I have messaged @Lenovo on Twitter and they said that the shipping dates were inaccurate and they will ship as soon as they are ready. It seems like it's gonna take a while
Awww sorry to hear that :( hey at least from the looks of things it will be well worth the wait hopefully
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Sadly they decided to handicap this machine with an Intel cpu.
"our engineers", "our team" congratulations you did it
This looks like a great system!
Can't wait to buy this monster machine!
You also forgot to tell about new very powerful graphic cards coming with this laptop
There was mention of GPUs ~12:10 mark
Nice brand new laptop
*Really* disappointing to see no 16:10 or FHD webcam (and presumably no vapor chamber) on the P15g2 and P17g2.
@@jm.aurelio27 They are talking about different models in the P-series lineup
@@jm.aurelio27 Thats the P1 Gen4, not the P15 Gen2 or P17 Gen2. They are not the same. Go read the full press release and the PSREF pages before commenting and making yourself look like an idiot.
EDIT: Also once you spec a P15 or P17 its going to be just as expensive or more expensive than the P1. The P1 has a higher base price since it has a higher base spec. Its always been that way.
Alright, I have a little bit of research on the P15 Gen 2 and P17 Gen 2, they almost have the same specs as the P1 Gen 4, but the difference was there is no 16:10 aspect ratio, vapor cooling is questionable, and it is way cheaper than the P1, so that's why the features are cut off from the other two. I totally get your point 👌
*I am talking about the P1 Gen 4 of course*
wow cool product i will check it out
peace to all
When are you going to deliver them to Russia?
Hi @Дмитрий Старинец. Pricing and availability of the product vary per region. Please check our official website: lnv.gy/36pqbcd for updates. Thank you. Auxen_Lenovo
@@Lenovo thank you! if it doesn't have PWM effect on display I will be very glad to buy it as soon as it appears in our country!
You're welcome and thanks for showing interest in our product. Please keep an eye on our website for the specs and availability of ThinkPad P1 Gen 4 mobile workstation. Have a great day and keep safe! Rai_Lenovo
disabled undervolting is not inovation
Imagine a video about a new promising car, where 2 employees just talk about it for 15 minutes, show it from one inconvenient angle only, then disassemble the engine, but never actually turn it on or show how it drives - makes total sense, right?!
I know this is not a full review, but spending time&effort on advertising new 16:10 without actually showing it working - why?! Apple would def do the opposite, thus 1000x sales.
And c'mon - this PR video is in 1080p - could at least use QHD(won't even mention 4k). Lenovo is selling $$$$ products but can't deliver their marketing material in the modern standard.
This is a workstation laptop, the interesting bits are under the hood.
@@henryatkinson1479 and? At the end of the day it's just a tool. Go have a look at any Ford-F150 commercial - this video should've be concentrated on visual demonstration of the practicality of the device, instead it makes me feel like I'm standing too close to these 2 'story-telling' dudes with a turned-off laptop.
Spill-resistant? Pour some liquid on it.
16:10? Perfect, turn that screen on.
Am I asking too much from a $3k device tour?!
I hear those things are garbage
Its concerning how at the end they said that IF they do this they can build a fan that picks up no dust. BUT they make no mention that that is indeed what they did with the P1 Gen 4. Very deceptive there. Very much Amerikan style "marketing".
In deed
Thank you leveno