Not just EN. All of HOLOSTARS. She showed a drawing of Oga in her debut, too, and she's had some pretty warm interactions with Rio and Astel on social media. It's easier to access EN, yeah, but we wouldn't have the EN boys now without the JP boys daring to go through their rougher start. And if you thought the EN boys had a freaking rough start, then boy, you will struggle to comprehend what the JP boys, especially the very first Star Miyabi Hanasaki, had to go through and how they dared and managed to fight the odds.
@@edgelordmcgee966 A 10-min clip titled "Holostars had a rough beggining" basically sums up a lot hardships the boys went through on their first few years from Miyabi's perspective. To summarize, their introduction wasn't recieved well and considering Miyabi was the first to debut (he explained in another clip that he volunteered to go first), he got a lot of the brunt. Low ccv, hate comments outnumbering genuine fans, no exposure, all the boys unfairly recieved these and worse. It got so bad to the point Miyabi had to take meds and Yagoo himself (who was the branch's founder/first manager) personally consulted him-he even admitted that he wanted to graduate at one point. But his love and dedication for Stars (as well as support from the Stars and fans) helped pushed him through the years, to the point he's now happy/confident enough to see himself in a position he once thought he didn't deserve, as an idol and "the center of Holostars". Looking at Holostars now, it's obviously in a much, much better position (a thriving EN branch, sold out live concerts, 3Ds, multiple sponsorships, ect). Despite his low stamina, Miyabi (and the rest) have proven time and time again how strong they are mentaly-all starting from his groundwork (which is why, even if JP don't treat him as this almighty daisenpai, everyone highly respects him).
@@edgelordmcgee966 A clip titled "Holostars had a rough beggining" is a good start, discussing the boys' early struggles from Miyabi's perspective (all the early negativity caused him to take meds and Yagoo personally consulting him-he even thought about graduating). There's also other clips where he talks about his feelings being the first to debut in a completely new division (he volunteered to be first, which is incredibly brave), his views on numbers and being seen as an idol, how they went through it all together and how he views Holostars as a family and an important part of his life.
I cannot put into words the amount of respect and apreciation i have for ERB, she's been so supportive of her Stars senpais. This woman deserves the world 😭
@@professorpenne9962 And sometimes, Kronii was just one of the Holobros. It's a shame that there has been some obvious pullback since Magni and Vesper left...
yeah the ID branch has been supportive of holostars for many years. they didn't shy away from it at all. fubuki, choco and matsuri from jp always come to mind as well.
Elis behavior is gap moe for me. She looks like she's strong and law abiding like erza scarlet. And then super bubbly and loving fan. She's a treasure as apersona
im sad some people's first thoughts were "Liz stole Bettel's song" but im really happy to see Bettel adress it with such elegance. patron of the arts indeed
I mean dino man said he wants to do an apex Collab with her because they both suck in the game and wants to teach her the nooks and crannies. So maybe in the future? We dunno yet
cant wait to see raoras turn for this stuff. she did explicitly said she will collab with "all of hololive" and in her pre-isekai era she is a part of amongus collab which included males
I love bettel´s unlucky, i really do like bettel´s voice aproaching. ERB is just a powerhouse when it comes to the vocal department, i hear her singing in her debut and it gave me goosebumps, i knew it already, she is gonna hit big, and she also has taste knowing she likes unlucky, she´s a keeper.
The thing with ERB is that she does the same Hakka does, they put their seasoning in the cover. It`s not a 1:1 type, so the cover feels like a whole another thing which I love them for it.
I love Liz's voice and how goofy she is, and seeing her interacting so much with the boys from the get-go gives me hope that now we'll finally be able to bridge the gap between the boys and the girls for good!! With Cali/Kroni + Magni/Vesper being the start, Bettel/Vesper + Bae with Barbie being a little extra help, the close relationship between Altare/Kobo and the frequent streams between Jurard/Ollie + now Liz's efforts, this is the closest we've ever been to a better union between both sides ;;
I'd be disappointed if someone who sung my song doesn't try to outdo my performance while they learn and do their best about it. So yeah, I think that those who seriously take the joke about Bettel losing perms to his own song thanks to Lizzie's outdoing him in singing it are new fans at best and fake fans at worst. Anyway, the hilarious adorableness of the idea of Betsy and Lizzie wearing face masks together is especially causing some more diabetic brainrot within me.
she is literally a queen, with her talent and capability she can do whatever she want. I hope that she will continue to stay like this. got my support 100%
I really like how Elizabeth talks about the boys the other girls don’t talk about them much which I just noticed hopefully she can stream with the boys one day
I remember when the Holostars members showed up during a promotion stream and Fuwamoco, being two of the hosts, just went silent the whole time. That was so awkward because they were there to promote the members but stayed silent instead.
Look Liz is popular and extremely talented but no one has been able to elevate Holostars substantially. The stigma against male VTubers is always going to be the knife that slices their Achilles tendon. Calli couldn’t do it, Kronii couldn’t do it, Ollie couldn’t do it, Kobo couldn’t do it and odds are Liz isn’t going to do it either. More power to her to try but I don’t forsee any major bumps for them. I’m not telling you what to like but I’d say keep your expectations low.
@@domi8499 More power to her then. You couldn’t pay me enough money to deal with the sheer amount of psychosis that the other girls had to deal with when they did male collabs. That type of shit eats away at you eventually no matter how tough you are. Sure you could give the naive answer of “Well people just shouldn’t watch it if they don’t like it” Typically those streams are some of their lower viewed streams or “Well people should just be kind and respect her choices”. Come now, we all know the internet by now is not capable of that. I say this as a shitposter and troll who had a rare moment of sympathy because I do think she’s genuinely talented.
I'm so glad that Liz is so supportive of the boys as well!! It's great to see someone with so much enthusiasm and so willing to interact with them! I also completely agree with Bettel in that you don't need to like the original version of a song the best! I personally love Izuru's Aishite Aishite Aishite cover the best, even more than the original! Just mske sure that you're respectful and don't put down any version!
To me they Bettel and Liz interpretation have different souls: Bettel original is a beaten, depressed man telling how he fell, Liz version is an angry woman cursing her bad luck and throwing punches to get back what is hers
I agree with Bettel and I don't really understand how someone could see people liking Liz's rendition more as an insult to Bettel. To me that's like thinking that the engineer of an F1 car is also the best at driving it because they understand it the best. That's obviously not true because engineering and driving are two very different skill sets, one mentally and one physically. Liz has obviously many many many years of voice training, probably learned to perform on stage in her teens, so to think that she wouldn't absolutely crush the rendition with her experience seems absurd to me. It's the same with top tier voice actors who get paid quite a lot for a pretty short time of work because the ability to pull it off in a short time with barely any retakes takes years and years of practice.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions of song covers, except for Johnny Cash's cover of Hurt. That is unarguably the superior version of the song.
i just worry like idk is he really ok with it or is he sad a little,, either way he's practicing all the time i bet by the time we get a holostars en concert (PLEASE-) he'll be even better than the first time he sung it!
ELizabeth litterly just debut and already said I will take care of the EN Holostar Branch by myself
Not just EN. All of HOLOSTARS. She showed a drawing of Oga in her debut, too, and she's had some pretty warm interactions with Rio and Astel on social media. It's easier to access EN, yeah, but we wouldn't have the EN boys now without the JP boys daring to go through their rougher start. And if you thought the EN boys had a freaking rough start, then boy, you will struggle to comprehend what the JP boys, especially the very first Star Miyabi Hanasaki, had to go through and how they dared and managed to fight the odds.
Gotta love her for it. It's always great when a new holo EN girl acknowledges the boy's existence.
@@theoverlordbear what did miyabi do/what did he go through
@@edgelordmcgee966 A 10-min clip titled "Holostars had a rough beggining" basically sums up a lot hardships the boys went through on their first few years from Miyabi's perspective.
To summarize, their introduction wasn't recieved well and considering Miyabi was the first to debut (he explained in another clip that he volunteered to go first), he got a lot of the brunt. Low ccv, hate comments outnumbering genuine fans, no exposure, all the boys unfairly recieved these and worse. It got so bad to the point Miyabi had to take meds and Yagoo himself (who was the branch's founder/first manager) personally consulted him-he even admitted that he wanted to graduate at one point.
But his love and dedication for Stars (as well as support from the Stars and fans) helped pushed him through the years, to the point he's now happy/confident enough to see himself in a position he once thought he didn't deserve, as an idol and "the center of Holostars". Looking at Holostars now, it's obviously in a much, much better position (a thriving EN branch, sold out live concerts, 3Ds, multiple sponsorships, ect).
Despite his low stamina, Miyabi (and the rest) have proven time and time again how strong they are mentaly-all starting from his groundwork (which is why, even if JP don't treat him as this almighty daisenpai, everyone highly respects him).
@@edgelordmcgee966 A clip titled "Holostars had a rough beggining" is a good start, discussing the boys' early struggles from Miyabi's perspective (all the early negativity caused him to take meds and Yagoo personally consulting him-he even thought about graduating). There's also other clips where he talks about his feelings being the first to debut in a completely new division (he volunteered to be first, which is incredibly brave), his views on numbers and being seen as an idol, how they went through it all together and how he views Holostars as a family and an important part of his life.
I cannot put into words the amount of respect and apreciation i have for ERB, she's been so supportive of her Stars senpais.
This woman deserves the world 😭
always love to see it. calli and bae have also been extremely supportive of the holobros. big thumbs up from me 👍
Louder, drown the unicorns, people. Ain't no way we keep letting the ladies get persecuted by the freaks over genuinely showing support to the boys.
@@professorpenne9962 And sometimes, Kronii was just one of the Holobros. It's a shame that there has been some obvious pullback since Magni and Vesper left...
Oh, I can't forget ID.
yeah the ID branch has been supportive of holostars for many years. they didn't shy away from it at all. fubuki, choco and matsuri from jp always come to mind as well.
Big fan of these interactions, Yagoo hit a Home Run with Liz
You're goddamn right. Those pipes are heavenly.
Not a home run. A grand slam.
Elis behavior is gap moe for me. She looks like she's strong and law abiding like erza scarlet. And then super bubbly and loving fan. She's a treasure as apersona
It's the reds of ID and EN that interact with the EN Stars the most.
yeah calli is red now /j
@@arlynnecumberbatch1056Red eyes
@@arlynnecumberbatch1056 I mean pink is a tint of red, she's not far off lol
im sad some people's first thoughts were "Liz stole Bettel's song" but im really happy to see Bettel adress it with such elegance. patron of the arts indeed
liz stole bettels song /pos
lizzy is incredibly based for all her interactions with the stars, i hope that will translate into stream collabs too!
I mean dino man said he wants to do an apex Collab with her because they both suck in the game and wants to teach her the nooks and crannies. So maybe in the future? We dunno yet
@@theadmiral4157 sounds great!
@@theadmiral4157 multiplayer would be cool too like smash bros, mario party, monopoly, pummel party, uno, etc.
@@greensky___70 i see you are an appreciator of salt too.
Literally Queen behaviour
Really love her interactions with everyone so far
Love Liz's support for the stars and all of her senpai in general. She's such a treasure ❤
cant wait to see raoras turn for this stuff. she did explicitly said she will collab with "all of hololive" and in her pre-isekai era she is a part of amongus collab which included males
I love bettel´s unlucky, i really do like bettel´s voice aproaching.
ERB is just a powerhouse when it comes to the vocal department, i hear her singing in her debut and it gave me goosebumps, i knew it already, she is gonna hit big, and she also has taste knowing she likes unlucky, she´s a keeper.
The thing with ERB is that she does the same Hakka does, they put their seasoning in the cover. It`s not a 1:1 type, so the cover feels like a whole another thing which I love them for it.
Unlucky really is a fantastic song and ERB's version is just stunning, please check them out!
I love Liz's voice and how goofy she is, and seeing her interacting so much with the boys from the get-go gives me hope that now we'll finally be able to bridge the gap between the boys and the girls for good!!
With Cali/Kroni + Magni/Vesper being the start, Bettel/Vesper + Bae with Barbie being a little extra help, the close relationship between Altare/Kobo and the frequent streams between Jurard/Ollie + now Liz's efforts, this is the closest we've ever been to a better union between both sides ;;
ERB is Yagoo dream incarnation. Holostars is his baby and he’s all about unity and collaborations.
Liz is the best
ERB love. Closing the division between stars and live so much in literally 4 days since debut. She really is the queen in every aspect
Liz watching the stream, she's just like us FR FR! 😭 I love her to death already! Queen!
I'd be disappointed if someone who sung my song doesn't try to outdo my performance while they learn and do their best about it. So yeah, I think that those who seriously take the joke about Bettel losing perms to his own song thanks to Lizzie's outdoing him in singing it are new fans at best and fake fans at worst. Anyway, the hilarious adorableness of the idea of Betsy and Lizzie wearing face masks together is especially causing some more diabetic brainrot within me.
Looks like we have Mori 2.0 for the new boys to interact with.
It'll be fun to watch her Holo career in the future.
she is literally a queen, with her talent and capability she can do whatever she want. I hope that she will continue to stay like this. got my support 100%
She has such gaki energy in that thumbnail 😍😍
I think she looks more like a sunny kouhai, though. 😆
I love how all over the place she is 😆 even interacting with vtubers OUTSIDE of holo. Very cute. Glad she's having fun ❤️
What can i say she's the queen 👑
I really like how Elizabeth talks about the boys the other girls don’t talk about them much which I just noticed hopefully she can stream with the boys one day
I remember when the Holostars members showed up during a promotion stream and Fuwamoco, being two of the hosts, just went silent the whole time. That was so awkward because they were there to promote the members but stayed silent instead.
@@Vyz3r really when was that?
This new kouhai is something else! ❤️
Looking forward to Elizabeth collab with the Holostar bois in future. i love mixed gender collabs!
Look Liz is popular and extremely talented but no one has been able to elevate Holostars substantially. The stigma against male VTubers is always going to be the knife that slices their Achilles tendon. Calli couldn’t do it, Kronii couldn’t do it, Ollie couldn’t do it, Kobo couldn’t do it and odds are Liz isn’t going to do it either. More power to her to try but I don’t forsee any major bumps for them. I’m not telling you what to like but I’d say keep your expectations low.
@@eraserhead6198 they don't need to, as long as she finds it enjoyable when collabing with the boys, it's completely fine
@@domi8499 More power to her then. You couldn’t pay me enough money to deal with the sheer amount of psychosis that the other girls had to deal with when they did male collabs. That type of shit eats away at you eventually no matter how tough you are. Sure you could give the naive answer of “Well people just shouldn’t watch it if they don’t like it” Typically those streams are some of their lower viewed streams or “Well people should just be kind and respect her choices”. Come now, we all know the internet by now is not capable of that. I say this as a shitposter and troll who had a rare moment of sympathy because I do think she’s genuinely talented.
No one said to bump their numbers. You brought that up lol. Op literally said "i like mixed gender collabs" @@eraserhead6198
@@eraserhead6198no one said anything about bumps in views. You brought that up.
I'm so glad that Liz is so supportive of the boys as well!! It's great to see someone with so much enthusiasm and so willing to interact with them! I also completely agree with Bettel in that you don't need to like the original version of a song the best! I personally love Izuru's Aishite Aishite Aishite cover the best, even more than the original! Just mske sure that you're respectful and don't put down any version!
Literal QUEEN👑👑👑
To me they Bettel and Liz interpretation have different souls: Bettel original is a beaten, depressed man telling how he fell, Liz version is an angry woman cursing her bad luck and throwing punches to get back what is hers
ERB is not just an amazing entertainer but also has a great taste in those.
I love seeing the stars and live interacting so positively. Holopro love to connect the world!
ERB, Epic Rose Be'el
Lizi deserves the world, man 👑
I agree with Bettel and I don't really understand how someone could see people liking Liz's rendition more as an insult to Bettel. To me that's like thinking that the engineer of an F1 car is also the best at driving it because they understand it the best. That's obviously not true because engineering and driving are two very different skill sets, one mentally and one physically. Liz has obviously many many many years of voice training, probably learned to perform on stage in her teens, so to think that she wouldn't absolutely crush the rendition with her experience seems absurd to me. It's the same with top tier voice actors who get paid quite a lot for a pretty short time of work because the ability to pull it off in a short time with barely any retakes takes years and years of practice.
Based Red Queen 👑❤
Love liz ..Great now kobo not alone carrying holostar🎉🎉
Ollie is there too. Anyone in Hololive who connects with Holostars is so cool in my eyes ❤
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions of song covers, except for Johnny Cash's cover of Hurt. That is unarguably the superior version of the song.
I'll always have more respect for the girls who are not afraid to interact with the Holostars boys
i just worry like idk is he really ok with it or is he sad a little,, either way he's practicing all the time i bet by the time we get a holostars en concert (PLEASE-) he'll be even better than the first time he sung it!
its over