People seem to forget how injury-riddled this team has been. I feel like people are quick to point out when another team is missing a star, but there's usually no mention about Toronto's ongoing situation. Even against the Hawks, they were short Abaji and Quickley.
its not like you beating top tier teams that played well the entire game. hawks been playing like ass with 3 straight losses. and wins raptors have had the teams played like ass and lost. they didnt beat a team playing well for a full 4 quarters.
I agree, but that’s my point. A healthy Raptors team is not a bad team. Boucher and Brown made big contributions off the bench. I’m not saying they would make a deep playoff run, but they wouldn’t be in the conversation for a Top 3 pick. As for beating quality teams, they just beat the Celtics.
It's horrible that we are winning! Let's be serious this team needs a few years of tanking/ Good thing is Brown/Olynynk are playing better, and we need to deal all the vets before or at the deadline.
Let’s not go down this road again with this whole “let’s not bottom out” nonsense talk. We’ve been saying this for 3 seasons now whenever we win a couple games.. This is how teams hang around the bottom of the league for years to come and remain mediocre because they’re drafting too low to get top end talent. This would make sense if we could at least attract top players in free agency. This team isn’t going anywhere and if the Raptors push for a play in spot and miss out only to get the 17th pick instead of a chance at a top 3 pick im pushing the button on fire Masai and Bobby. 100% you fire Masai and Bobby at the end of the season. There is no way anybody can excuse this anymore if we do this for a 3rd season season. You can’t win anything in this league without a superstar! There’s a reason why we won when we got Kawhi. I guess we’ve learned nothing after DeRozan’s daughter put the final nail in our coffin when we went for it instead of trading Fred and bottoming out. This is why you need strong coaches like Greg Popovich in your organization that’s going to say enough of this nonsense and just pull the plug. What happened when pulled the plug in San Antonio and bottom out ? He ended up with Wemby. It’s nice to get a couple wins here and there but any talks of going for it is nonsense. The team is currently has the 3rd worst record in the league so what are we going for ?
You said this 2 weeks ago.. plus its daily fire those guys yet there is 40 games left. I would be thinking fire them too, but we already know how the fire everyone crowd feels.. its been said a billion times
@@donaldmoroz686 anybody still talking about going for it must want to keep doing the same thing for the next 2 years or so. We’ve been going for it for like the last 3 seasons and yet we’re still in the same position. This what happens when you’re not bad enough to draft high and no star players want to sign here. You get stuck in no man’s land.
lol you subtract the points brown and boucher put up and they lose this game and many others. what happens to those points when boucher and brown traded lol.
Did the Kings season turn around because they fired Mike Brown or because on that same day Ben made the last Kings Digest video? Kings Digest died so the Kings could live. Thank you for your service Ben. I enjoyed it while it lasted.
Flagg is ballin'! But I think the Lithuanian will be #2 by draft day. The winning shows us Darko is displaying coaching along with developing - but when your bench has 3 double figure scorers its hard to lose. We know the starters can ball.
After last night’s game, I think we dont need to trade anyone anymore. I think we have a good team already, just need time to gel. If they beat the hawks again tomorrow, thats it, keep everyone intact!
Just thinking... Would the NBA stand for Toronto getting the #1 pick. Cooper is going to be in about a dozen nationally televised games and I don't think that would sit well with the NBA
need to send the 2025 unprotected 1st and 2027 unprotected 1st and pacers top 4 protected 1st to miami if you want to keep porter jr. throw in gradey or jakobe also.
@@jblack530 I've been calling for Darko's head all year. His rotations and in-game strategy have been lacking. Maybe some of the rotations are on the FO for various reasons, but so long as the team hustles and acts like they care I'm good. That December stretch was unbearable.
@ The narrative changed when they shat the bed early on. Their core is locked in for years so until they break it up this is another retooling/tank year. The actual rebuild should have started in 2020/21, 22 latest. But semantics aside, hustling and building a winning attitude was required all year. The 95/96 Raps were more entertaining than whatever the hell was going on earlier this season. Getting trounced by double digits for 15 straight games never should have happened. Darko/FO can't be excused for that nonsense. I still don't see Darko as the coach long term but I'm happy the team is showing some dignity lately.
What do you think??? Id rather have them tank for a lottery pick. Really. Cooper flagg would be nice. But it’s also good to see that they’re capable of winning iwhen they really try. The energy on defense has been on point in the last 4-5 games.
@@saganstephen2929 Nah, I pegged you on of these other types, Wrongly so. I mean watching good wins is always better for sure, it was just never a question for me we are better than our record either. I honestly just watch for individual perfrmances when a team is in clear rebuild. My fear with these wins though is how easy our schedule is coming up.. that means we genuinely HAVE to tank to give ourselves good odds. That could be quite painful to be apart of
I’m so sick and tired of these tank glazers bro if we develop a losing culture we’re cooked especially if coop ends up being a bust or worse we tank and fall in the draft anyways. I’d rather us win a couple of games and develop our players. We have a playoff team fully healthy as it is we don’t badly need a cooper Flagg type player
@YakDPOY what is chomche currently doing in the g League protecting the rim blocks rebounding being a big presence on defense with his length, my point exactly we don't need that pick as much as yall think just saying we already ahead of the curve
@@djmekkamusik7997 I take it all back, top end talent sucks and the history of the NBA says rebuilds win championships, but not for a team with Dennis Schroeder as its best FA signing lol. Mogbo future GOAT, the highschool kid phenom is a bum. Lets go become the Indiana Pacers, wooooooo
@YakDPOY nba is a different league. We don't need to be tanking. we need to win a develope winning habit and I'm gonna stand on than . I didn't say he sucks I said we don't need him
Do you not understand what rebuilding consist of ? Do some of you guys not understand that every team have do this at a point ? You have knock it down and rebuild when players age or move on.
People seem to forget how injury-riddled this team has been. I feel like people are quick to point out when another team is missing a star, but there's usually no mention about Toronto's ongoing situation. Even against the Hawks, they were short Abaji and Quickley.
its not like you beating top tier teams that played well the entire game. hawks been playing like ass with 3 straight losses. and wins raptors have had the teams played like ass and lost. they didnt beat a team playing well for a full 4 quarters.
also you take away the points from boucher and brown who are gonna be traded, the raptors wouldnt even have won the last few games they have won.
I agree, but that’s my point. A healthy Raptors team is not a bad team. Boucher and Brown made big contributions off the bench. I’m not saying they would make a deep playoff run, but they wouldn’t be in the conversation for a Top 3 pick. As for beating quality teams, they just beat the Celtics.
It's horrible that we are winning! Let's be serious this team needs a few years of tanking/ Good thing is Brown/Olynynk are playing better, and we need to deal all the vets before or at the deadline.
Let’s not go down this road again with this whole “let’s not bottom out” nonsense talk. We’ve been saying this for 3 seasons now whenever we win a couple games.. This is how teams hang around the bottom of the league for years to come and remain mediocre because they’re drafting too low to get top end talent. This would make sense if we could at least attract top players in free agency. This team isn’t going anywhere and if the Raptors push for a play in spot and miss out only to get the 17th pick instead of a chance at a top 3 pick im pushing the button on fire Masai and Bobby. 100% you fire Masai and Bobby at the end of the season. There is no way anybody can excuse this anymore if we do this for a 3rd season season. You can’t win anything in this league without a superstar! There’s a reason why we won when we got Kawhi. I guess we’ve learned nothing after DeRozan’s daughter put the final nail in our coffin when we went for it instead of trading Fred and bottoming out. This is why you need strong coaches like Greg Popovich in your organization that’s going to say enough of this nonsense and just pull the plug. What happened when pulled the plug in San Antonio and bottom out ? He ended up with Wemby. It’s nice to get a couple wins here and there but any talks of going for it is nonsense. The team is currently has the 3rd worst record in the league so what are we going for ?
FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT
well this season is different now that we trade og and siakam, its not the same situation
You said this 2 weeks ago.. plus its daily fire those guys yet there is 40 games left. I would be thinking fire them too, but we already know how the fire everyone crowd feels.. its been said a billion times
@@donaldmoroz686this is repeated daily.. "finally" makes 0 sense
@@donaldmoroz686 anybody still talking about going for it must want to keep doing the same thing for the next 2 years or so. We’ve been going for it for like the last 3 seasons and yet we’re still in the same position. This what happens when you’re not bad enough to draft high and no star players want to sign here. You get stuck in no man’s land.
I'm slowly growing on Brucey..I've always like Boucher ("BONJOUR!!"-Jack Armstong ) as well.
In Masai we trust. I have total faith in Masai Ujiri.
I’ve been preaching this team is solid it’s nice to get some validation
lol you subtract the points brown and boucher put up and they lose this game and many others. what happens to those points when boucher and brown traded lol.
Did the Kings season turn around because they fired Mike Brown or because on that same day Ben made the last Kings Digest video?
Kings Digest died so the Kings could live. Thank you for your service Ben. I enjoyed it while it lasted.
Grange is not a reliable source
Flagg is ballin'! But I think the Lithuanian will be #2 by draft day.
The winning shows us Darko is displaying coaching along with developing - but when your bench has 3 double figure scorers its hard to lose. We know the starters can ball.
rj and gradey are horrible defenders that you cant have on the floor at same time or you bleed points for an autoloss. even IQ is bad on defence.
We are six games up on the Wizards in the win column.
What does that chabge
how many wins do you have if you subtract boucher and brown points? something to think about cuz they about to be traded.
After last night’s game, I think we dont need to trade anyone anymore. I think we have a good team already, just need time to gel. If they beat the hawks again tomorrow, thats it, keep everyone intact!
Absolute 0% chance Bruce brown is here long term
Haven’t seen your vids since the KD summer lol. Nice to see ya, guess Mikal and Cam was better then Trent and OJ ;)
At this point i think we should keep boucher and brown as veterans and they both have rings on their resume
Why? Neither is signed past this year.
ya lets give boucher and brown a max to stay in toronto, sounds like a winning move.
Raptors over OKC in 6 2027!!!!
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we need to make some more changes to the roster if we ever want to be anything more then a mid team
Even if they were to get FLAGG, Isnt going to change this team! Simply put Barnes gotta be a #3, he isn't a leader@
Just thinking... Would the NBA stand for Toronto getting the #1 pick. Cooper is going to be in about a dozen nationally televised games and I don't think that would sit well with the NBA
Jimmy to denver, olynyk and brown to miami, nnaji and mpj to toronto
imagine
Raptor propoganda!!
@@benfranklin1770 its just a trade idea
need to send the 2025 unprotected 1st and 2027 unprotected 1st and pacers top 4 protected 1st to miami if you want to keep porter jr. throw in gradey or jakobe also.
@@giovanni-ed7zq he’s a third option averaging 18 ppg and has back problems, I don’t think it would take all that.
The team I watched beat Atlanta could easily be a play-in team....next year
subtract boucher and brown points and do they win this game or others? whats gonna happen to those points when boucher and brown traded?
You should talk about the Davion Mitchell as a starter and they start winning games.
this part. davion has been so amazing. it sucks his future w/ us isn’t certain.
They actually started winning when Shead and Chris were added back to the lineup. Darko’s minute shares when IQ played were awful.
@@jblack530 I've been calling for Darko's head all year. His rotations and in-game strategy have been lacking. Maybe some of the rotations are on the FO for various reasons, but so long as the team hustles and acts like they care I'm good. That December stretch was unbearable.
@@MandoGuerrero2it's a rebuild year the rotations prioritization development not winning
@ The narrative changed when they shat the bed early on. Their core is locked in for years so until they break it up this is another retooling/tank year. The actual rebuild should have started in 2020/21, 22 latest.
But semantics aside, hustling and building a winning attitude was required all year. The 95/96 Raps were more entertaining than whatever the hell was going on earlier this season. Getting trounced by double digits for 15 straight games never should have happened. Darko/FO can't be excused for that nonsense.
I still don't see Darko as the coach long term but I'm happy the team is showing some dignity lately.
Mitchell, olynik, brown playing better. Boucher’s energy. I enjoy watching this team when theyre playing like this
Whats more important, couple nights of happiness here and there or 10 years of being extatic?
What do you think??? Id rather have them tank for a lottery pick. Really. Cooper flagg would be nice. But it’s also good to see that they’re capable of winning iwhen they really try. The energy on defense has been on point in the last 4-5 games.
@@saganstephen2929 Nah, I pegged you on of these other types, Wrongly so. I mean watching good wins is always better for sure, it was just never a question for me we are better than our record either. I honestly just watch for individual perfrmances when a team is in clear rebuild. My fear with these wins though is how easy our schedule is coming up.. that means we genuinely HAVE to tank to give ourselves good odds. That could be quite painful to be apart of
I’m so sick and tired of these tank glazers bro if we develop a losing culture we’re cooked especially if coop ends up being a bust or worse we tank and fall in the draft anyways. I’d rather us win a couple of games and develop our players. We have a playoff team fully healthy as it is we don’t badly need a cooper Flagg type player
I'll say this again and stand 10 toes down on it. Raptors going to win a chip within the next 5 years.
they aint winning shit. you take off boucher and brown points, and do they beat the hawks? nope. so what happens when boucher and brown traded lol.
@giovanni-ed7zq i believe in SB4 and our young guys and what we get back in return.
Chomche will be abeast next year we dont need to tank for flagg
Comche being a beast next year wouldn't change us needing a high draft lol. Defence wins rings, we have no defence
@YakDPOY what is chomche currently doing in the g League protecting the rim blocks rebounding being a big presence on defense with his length, my point exactly we don't need that pick as much as yall think just saying we already ahead of the curve
We also have mogbo, which i can promise you will be better than flagg
@@djmekkamusik7997 I take it all back, top end talent sucks and the history of the NBA says rebuilds win championships, but not for a team with Dennis Schroeder as its best FA signing lol. Mogbo future GOAT, the highschool kid phenom is a bum. Lets go become the Indiana Pacers, wooooooo
@YakDPOY nba is a different league. We don't need to be tanking. we need to win a develope winning habit and I'm gonna stand on than . I didn't say he sucks I said we don't need him
First
Cooper flag will just be a role player
I think you’re pregnant 🫄
Whaaaaaaat
These are the same casuals that want us in the play in😂
well cooper flagg better offensively at 17 than scottie barnes is at 23 now. so makes ya wonder who should really be getting the big bucks.
Red Flagg !
Ha thirty something-ish
Tank properly mofos
You call this disaster of a season a rebuild?
What else would it be?
what do you call it?
Do you not understand what rebuilding consist of ? Do some of you guys not understand that every team have do this at a point ? You have knock it down and rebuild when players age or move on.
@@mikeyjames bro is a hockey fan cut him some slack
Your awake. Start thinking.