SEA OF REEDS LYRICS: „The illusory paradise representing a total denial of earthly life is no longer projected into the heavens, it is embedded in earthly life itself.“ they said you came across the sea the vast sea of reeds when a strong east wind blew you came guided by a pillar of fire at night you walked on dry land he smothered all your enemies he smothered all your enemies clogged the chariot wheels made them flee, made them disappear what you’ve seen today you shall never ever see again clogged the chariot wheels made them flee, made them disappear what you’ve seen today you shall never ever see again blow back blow back blow back blow back I divided the waters for you, not for nothing not as a favour, not as a proof of sentiment take it all as it seems close your eyes and find ways to believe cherish the miracle that is so crucial to satisfy your vanity I divided the waters for you I divided the waters for you I divided the waters for you I divided the waters for you
I love how these guys keep exploring different sounds and themes over time, always covering new ground. That's how real progressive music is made. On top of that, all their music still sounds uniquely and unmistakably like them. You can see their fingerprints all over the tracks, even though they may have vastly different elements from previous material. Much love to The Ocean ❤
This feels like Heliocentric, but to the power of the last three albums combined. The ambition. The commitment. The execution. The maturity and sophistication. The self-reflection. The humility. The fucking honesty. As a scientist, I can’t tell you how many years I have spent in the lab listening to these records. They humble you in their reverence for the scale of the cosmos. In a voice as terse as the Sumerian wit we sometimes hear as echoes of things spelled out in the cuneiform spirituals once laid down with a reed on clay, these musicians have the power to make us acutely aware of the knife edge on which we are balancing. …but not to be cowed by its narrowness, rather…to challenge us to let the bellows roar, to smelt our fears and forge something new, even if the odds of failure are staring us in the face like Darwin in Tierra del Fuego staring at those walls of sediment displaying a cascade of epochs long extinct, upon which some day our bones will likewise be deposited. Songs like these remind us to find the determination to be brave and push past our comfort zone and carry forward with our torch light into the abyss of what is unknown yet possible.
In a way, that was always the intent with these stories. After all, what better way to cast away the shackles of old oppressive kingdoms and city-states that rules for millenias with an iron fist than to tell the story of drowning those foes to form a new identity and egalitarian society? Bronze Age collapse was interesting…and filled with opportunity I’m sure for those living through it. A lot of good came out of it ultimately. A lot of bad too (including lots of war and power vacuum that led to the Assyrian Empire). What’s unfortunate I realize is how we humans have interpreted these stories. They should be of man overcoming impossible odds through virtue with god being a guide instead of a dictator, but instead become point of contention for further division and separation as a collective.
The Ocean never stop to impress me with every release. This new single is for sure very different compared to their previous records but the DNA is still here and I really really can't wait to hear what they will reserve to us wth Holocene.
This song has grown on me so much. The more I listen the more addictive it gets. I’ve repeated this song way too many times already. The atmosphere that the song creates is incredible. It’s also made me rethink a lot of the concepts I had about god and belief….and the frustrations I’ve had with established religion and where it comes from. We constantly have this idea that we need to serve a deity…but that is illogical. Why would something that is superior need anything? It’s an utterly human concept. I divided the waters….for you. So you can become inspired to know something greater. So you can relax and enjoy the miracle of life that’s been granted. It’s been distorted by humans and added on to become cult-like…but in actuality the texts and belief in of itself come from a place of becoming self actualized and not one of chastising. Which almost all religions get wrong. Ironic that a bunch of Germans would help teach this Jew better about my religion than all the years of religious studies lol
Man, this album's gonna be a thinker, and I love it. I can't wait to be able to take it all in one playthrough and really sink my teeth into what you guys have created and have to say. And then, time to start all over with Precambrian! Thanks for all you do
This music and its appeal is universal. I remember being at a Between the Buried and Me and Protest the Hero concert in Amsterdam for my bachelor party with a fellow Puerto Rican and people looking at us as if they were amazed to see people like us there. People from any ethnical background can resonate with these masterpieces produced by The Ocean and other progressive bands. I have yet to see The Ocean live, but now that I live in Europe and this has become my favorite band, I will most definately travel to see them or if they come to Spain, my ticket is already bought :D
So cool, you mentioned "Vheissu", same vibes somehow (Atlantic, of dust and nations, between the end and where we live) and though completely underrated, even in Thrice´s back catalogue. And even Dustin und Loic match pretty good...
This whole album so far has been monumentally more ambient and surreal than any previous. Placing this one in the same collection as... honestly even the album right before this feels... odd. This is clearly a very different side of the band we love. I do hope that we get some more 'metal' sound in the other tracks, but I can't deny that I love everything about the songs we've gotten. I love it when art challenges me. I feel like I have to sit with it for a while before I can fully embrace it, which means that, hey, it already has some amazing staying power. Thank you The Ocean.
A song that you love on first listen is a great song. A song that grows on you tenfold with each listen is an incredible song. Nobody teaches us this quite like the ocean. Complex art takes time to digest. You need patience and resolve, and you will get your reward. The beauty of this band.
I remember hearing this song for the first time a month or so ago and thinking it was great. Then it got shuffled into a playlist today and it blew me away. I put it on repeat and listened to it like 20 times in a row and memorized the lyrics. Such an epic song! I agree that songs which take a bit to absorb are even better than the ones that hit you on first listen.
I love the feeling of reminiscence this song gives; I think there could've been a badass breakdown after the "I divided the waters for you" part. Other than that, I'm very excited for Holocene.
I’ll be honest, this song didn’t captivate me at first listen like the first two singles did but the more I listen the more I feel. A theme I feel emotionally with the songs that have been released is one of sorrow for humanity as a whole. An abyssal emptiness. I also find myself starring at the stars with these songs. Captivating our curiosities of what’s beyond earth. Excellent work guys, I’m so stoked for this release.
Right? I was so focused on listening with the lyrics I wasn’t even watching the video, and then at the end I looked up and saw the rope and facial imprint lol. You know I might be wrong on this but it doesn’t look human, it looks like Australopithecus. Actually hang on if I am right about that then I think I’m starting to piece together some of the deeper meaning of this song. Just a theory though
@@1htalp9 The lyrics might undertone how Homo sapiens spreading in the area systematically eliminated the other evolving hominid species that existed in the world at the time. It’s a major theory as to why humans are BY far the most intelligent hominid species. Extermination, Interbreeding, and natural selection blended hominids into humanity and left rivals in the dust. If that’s the case the lyrics parallel it so well in a lot of places. But after reading their Instagram only talking about the biblical reference, I may be thinking too much about it. It is definitely a cool concept to think about in the Holocene though. It plays really well with the concept of anthropocentrism and our innate sense of superiority over the nature around us. Who knows what that time must have been like with so many intelligent hominid species clashing with eachother. Australopithecus is way more Pleistocene, but later hominids survived to pretty recently, although the Holocene is pushing it. It happens mostly from about 500,000 years ago to 50,000 years ago.
@@GrapeFlavoredAntifreeze The lyrics are explicitly about the Exodus story in the Old Testament. In it the ‘Hebrews’ were saved from exile with the parting of the sea that forced the chariots of the Egyptians away. Archaeologically there is no evidence of this occurring…but there is significant evidence of civil strife and complete denouncement of the kingdoms and city-states that ruled the Semitic region, likely these stories casting aside what was seen as Egyptian cultural norms that these vassal states adopted before the Bronze Era collapse. Cultures and people started anew with these stories as a backbone. Israel and Judea had their own interpretations (as did other smaller tribal states nearby). Ultimately each culture took these stories of emancipation from a dynastic and regressive culture to form their own claim to superiority over their neighbors, instead of using them as a form of human common unity that it was originally intended. David and Solomon’s regime tried to unite the tribes, but ended up ultimately dividing them even further, and ultimately allowing them to be easily conquered - first Israel and surrounding area by the Assyrians and eventually the Judea by the Babylonians. Eventually these stories were then stolen by the Roman Empire to create modern day Christianity in a vain and desperate (but ultimately effective) attempt to keep their over expanded empire afloat, which many of the vassal states in THEIR empire used these stories as a sort of rallying cry against the Empire, as the Judeans were by far the most rebelliousness of their conquered states (and the very reason all Judeans were forced out of the land and was renamed Palestine). Some Judeans later tried to form an alliance with the Yemenite kingdom as they were a significant proxy power against the Romans. Through forced conversion by the kingdom, they used Judaism as a proxy for Rome’s appropriation of Christianity. Ultimately, this practice of forced conversion by this kingdom led to Islam. The long and short of it is: instead of using these stories as a call for regional and perhaps human unity to create an egalitarian society, they instead used these stores to create their own version of events, ultimately leading to their destruction through division, and a long exile that was only remedied in the past century. I think that’s the lesson of the song ultimately: humanity will seek to divide itself amongst each other even when there’s no reason to.
I don’t know if The Ocean is just that well researched on obscure history or the lyrics coincidentally paint that picture… Multiple cultures had the story of Exodus in ancient Judea/Israel….but told of different ‘true’ kingdoms and providences. Samaritans had the kingdom as being holy from Israel’s perspective. Torah from Judaea’s. There’s evidence of a couple others with their own parallel interpretations that have died out after the fall of Judea and Israel, wiped out by the Assyrians, Babylonians, or Romans. All of these factions used their shared mythology based on something truly fantastic and beautiful (escaping servitude and breaking chains to form an egalitarian (for the time) society) and twisted it for their own form of tribal nationalism. Countering the purpose of those stories and tales in the first place. I divided the waters….not as proof or sentiment. But to create something that was foreign for humans at the time, where kings and lords kept society and civilization at a perpetual war like state. For a time the region was just tribes of displaced people from failed kingdoms and lords that people revolted from and lived in relative peace and shared communities, but eventually kingdoms did spring out and each warred with each other, which their division was the primary reason that society did not last. The unification David and Solomon’s government tried and failed ultimately, and ended up separating the provinces even further. Leading them to be easily conquered by a juggernaut. Both the Samaritans (eg ancient Israelites) and Jews (Judeans) despite starting their period of exile centuries apart from one another (Samaritans around 700 bce, Judaians 500 bce), interpreted the fall of their societies due to lack of worship and corruption from outsiders or the other faction. Monotheism became far more stricter in similar ways for both cultures but in different interpretations. Yet, ultimately, those ideas from such an egalitarian society and ended up inspiring other societies after the fall of Israel and Judea: Ancient Greece, macaedonia, Rome…concepts from Judea and Israel creeped into these cultures. Later forming the basis for the two major religions (Christianity and Islam). In essence, these insignificant tribal lands eventually became the bedrock of all modern culture. Ultimately, even though exile was seen as a punishment by both Samaritans and Judeans, the world benefited significantly from those egalitarian concepts as they eventually formed the backbone of our current modern systems as well. Yet to this day, both cultures saw only failure of the past instead of the beauty that has emerged from the spread of these cultures unintentionally. Perfectly epitomizes the human condition to constantly find the superficial and find reasons for each of us to separate from one another rather than unite. Greed and corruption ultimately becomes our undoing but without the self awareness to realize it. This song is fantastic in general….but it’s given me also a completely new appreciation of my culture, history, and put things a bit in perspective on some of the areas that have frustrated me a lot in my understanding.
This song is smarter than the last album, do not call the heavier songs better just because they’re heavier. Robin if you cater to these people you’re catering to the unintelligent. Make whatever music you guys have planned, ignore these people who have no clue what you guys are setting out to create. Obviously don’t abandon your roots but the direction you guys are showing us now is very cool. Let these half fans work it out themselves
@@GrapeFlavoredAntifreeze lmfao wow you are one of the most pretentious people I have ran across on TH-cam. I say this as a fan of the new direction but to say someone isn’t intelligent because they aren’t a fan of a. New song and to act like your in on the new direction of the album because you are smart like them is hilarious. They don’t know you from me. You aren’t that important.
A bit flat for my liking. A passage with some harsh vocals or more prominent guitars would have made the track more dynamic. There’s beauty in contrast, and this feels like the same vibe from start to finish.
Stop commenting this kinda stuff on single tracks. Do you just not appreciate songs like oligocene or Eocene? It’s a piece of a bigger picture. Clearly harsh vocals and instrumentals didn’t serve the purpose of this song. I’m sure it will on other songs. Not to mention it hasn’t been out for a day, you’re just basing your entire opinion on your surface level interpretation of the song, which is what The Ocean consistently tries to get people away from. Give it time if it’s not clicking for you yet
@@GrapeFlavoredAntifreeze No, I will not stop commenting on single tracks. I will share my thoughts as much as I like, and I will do so in a respectful manner. This song falls flat for me, and considering the other singles are lacking big dynamic shifts as well, we can assume this is an artistic choice - one which I don’t personally enjoy. I’ve been a fan (and still am) a huge fan of the band for over decade, I have at least the right to express my honest opinion. Hopefully you’ll be able to live with it. Have a nice day.
@@juneauz I know you think you said something neutrally smart here, but you didn’t. The opinion which you have every right to express is not exempt from criticism itself. What you just did though is try to dismiss my criticism, by making no counterpoint, rather than explaining to me why you think the song is “flatline” as you have described twice now. Please tell me what you mean by that. If you’re going to make a point, by all means make it, but don’t half ass it
@@juneauz How do you feel about it now? God, after all the build up on this album, the highs of this album just... they're as high as they've ever been with Ocean. Their songs NEED the full album context.
Grunts are a tool. Like any instrument. Overuse it and it becomes numb. When bands reach they peak they realize that it’s not the use of sound that makes music powerful, but the context….and sometimes less is more.
I'm so addicted to this song, I hope to see you live again.
SEA OF REEDS LYRICS:
„The illusory paradise representing a total denial of earthly life is no longer projected into the heavens, it is embedded in earthly life itself.“
they said you came across the sea
the vast sea of reeds
when a strong east wind blew
you came guided by a pillar of fire at night
you walked on dry land
he smothered all your enemies
he smothered all your enemies
clogged the chariot wheels
made them flee, made them disappear
what you’ve seen today you shall never ever see again
clogged the chariot wheels
made them flee, made them disappear
what you’ve seen today you shall never ever see again
blow back
blow back
blow back
blow back
I divided the waters for you, not for nothing
not as a favour, not as a proof of sentiment
take it all as it seems
close your eyes and find ways to believe
cherish the miracle that is so crucial
to satisfy your vanity
I divided the waters for you
I divided the waters for you
I divided the waters for you
I divided the waters for you
❤
Gorgeous...
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If I don't get a Cult of Luna & The Ocean split before my lifetime is over, I'll feel cheated.
that would be some shit
what about a really long track where both bands play togheter?
I don't know bout you, but I want a Leprous and The Ocean Collab
Imagine if ISIS were still making music. They could be doing all kinds of collabs.
man if only ppl knew the ISIS band, they're one of my favs.@@scottlauren3145
I love how these guys keep exploring different sounds and themes over time, always covering new ground. That's how real progressive music is made. On top of that, all their music still sounds uniquely and unmistakably like them. You can see their fingerprints all over the tracks, even though they may have vastly different elements from previous material.
Much love to The Ocean ❤
This feels like Heliocentric, but to the power of the last three albums combined. The ambition. The commitment. The execution. The maturity and sophistication. The self-reflection. The humility. The fucking honesty.
As a scientist, I can’t tell you how many years I have spent in the lab listening to these records. They humble you in their reverence for the scale of the cosmos. In a voice as terse as the Sumerian wit we sometimes hear as echoes of things spelled out in the cuneiform spirituals once laid down with a reed on clay, these musicians have the power to make us acutely aware of the knife edge on which we are balancing. …but not to be cowed by its narrowness, rather…to challenge us to let the bellows roar, to smelt our fears and forge something new, even if the odds of failure are staring us in the face like Darwin in Tierra del Fuego staring at those walls of sediment displaying a cascade of epochs long extinct, upon which some day our bones will likewise be deposited.
Songs like these remind us to find the determination to be brave and push past our comfort zone and carry forward with our torch light into the abyss of what is unknown yet possible.
In a way, that was always the intent with these stories.
After all, what better way to cast away the shackles of old oppressive kingdoms and city-states that rules for millenias with an iron fist than to tell the story of drowning those foes to form a new identity and egalitarian society?
Bronze Age collapse was interesting…and filled with opportunity I’m sure for those living through it.
A lot of good came out of it ultimately. A lot of bad too (including lots of war and power vacuum that led to the Assyrian Empire).
What’s unfortunate I realize is how we humans have interpreted these stories. They should be of man overcoming impossible odds through virtue with god being a guide instead of a dictator, but instead become point of contention for further division and separation as a collective.
Well fucking said
Really like this one and love Paul Seidel's drumming. The album can't come soon enough!
I must've played this song at least 20 times today. This album will be something really special
This is one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard. The composition makes the hairs on my neck stand on end. "Take it all as it seems..."
Heavy, soft, electronic, weird, this band makes anything you need and does it better than anyone else
The intro gives me a boards of Canada feel, and i love that.
The Ocean never stop to impress me with every release. This new single is for sure very different compared to their previous records but the DNA is still here and I really really can't wait to hear what they will reserve to us wth Holocene.
This song has grown on me so much. The more I listen the more addictive it gets. I’ve repeated this song way too many times already. The atmosphere that the song creates is incredible.
It’s also made me rethink a lot of the concepts I had about god and belief….and the frustrations I’ve had with established religion and where it comes from.
We constantly have this idea that we need to serve a deity…but that is illogical. Why would something that is superior need anything? It’s an utterly human concept.
I divided the waters….for you. So you can become inspired to know something greater. So you can relax and enjoy the miracle of life that’s been granted.
It’s been distorted by humans and added on to become cult-like…but in actuality the texts and belief in of itself come from a place of becoming self actualized and not one of chastising. Which almost all religions get wrong.
Ironic that a bunch of Germans would help teach this Jew better about my religion than all the years of religious studies lol
Also completely obsessed with this song
Man, this album's gonna be a thinker, and I love it. I can't wait to be able to take it all in one playthrough and really sink my teeth into what you guys have created and have to say. And then, time to start all over with Precambrian! Thanks for all you do
The ocean, sleep token, spiritbox and Riverside are bands of the moment and future.
Well, I’m glad I’ve heard about these guys now thanks to watching the Karnivool tour documentary. Let’s go !
This music and its appeal is universal. I remember being at a Between the Buried and Me and Protest the Hero concert in Amsterdam for my bachelor party with a fellow Puerto Rican and people looking at us as if they were amazed to see people like us there. People from any ethnical background can resonate with these masterpieces produced by The Ocean and other progressive bands. I have yet to see The Ocean live, but now that I live in Europe and this has become my favorite band, I will most definately travel to see them or if they come to Spain, my ticket is already bought :D
These tunes trot. ILY.
Love the vibe of this album so far!
I really dig the new direction they're going for. I#ve always enjoyed the more dynamic the ocean tracks. Can't wait to hear more!
The album will be a banger
absolutely perfect!
I like this one
This reminds me a LITTLE bit of Ulver, and later Neurosis/Tribes Of Neurot. Wonderful new 'turn of sound' from The Ocean, thank you Robin et al.
This new album seems like it will have much in common sonically with 2005’s Vheissu by Thrice. Both bands should certainly tour together.
So cool, you mentioned "Vheissu", same vibes somehow (Atlantic, of dust and nations, between the end and where we live) and though completely underrated, even in Thrice´s back catalogue. And even Dustin und Loic match pretty good...
@@beatedierkes2333 The best Thrice album! That would be a hell of a tour!!! Go ahead and add Night Verses to open and would be perfect!
IT IS
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THRICE HA that goes back,we had a local band like that that should of gotten Bigger!
@@centralnysasquatch37dogman69 Many smaller bands deserve it instead of terrible modern pop or many clones.
Gorgeous track! Beautiful production!
Very sad song. I feel a deep anger in the songwriting, I personally like it very much. Keep up the good work guys!
More like sadness than anger…
They got more Post Rock, love it
This has 'Giant Squid' written all over it. Good stuff.
The bible Exodus, Moses.
Giant Squid don't get anywhere near enough appreciation.
Beautiful song 🖤🎶🎵🤘🎩
You guys must be fans of Callisto, because this reminds me of their Noir era, particularly some passages of Wormwood. Good job!
great song!
superb. will be preordering it at the beginning of May.
Hell yea I could not be more pumped for the new album!!!
Interesting... Very very interesting!!! 😀
This whole album so far has been monumentally more ambient and surreal than any previous. Placing this one in the same collection as... honestly even the album right before this feels... odd. This is clearly a very different side of the band we love.
I do hope that we get some more 'metal' sound in the other tracks, but I can't deny that I love everything about the songs we've gotten.
I love it when art challenges me. I feel like I have to sit with it for a while before I can fully embrace it, which means that, hey, it already has some amazing staying power.
Thank you The Ocean.
A song that you love on first listen is a great song. A song that grows on you tenfold with each listen is an incredible song. Nobody teaches us this quite like the ocean. Complex art takes time to digest. You need patience and resolve, and you will get your reward. The beauty of this band.
@@GrapeFlavoredAntifreeze Couldn't have said it better myself
I remember hearing this song for the first time a month or so ago and thinking it was great. Then it got shuffled into a playlist today and it blew me away. I put it on repeat and listened to it like 20 times in a row and memorized the lyrics. Such an epic song! I agree that songs which take a bit to absorb are even better than the ones that hit you on first listen.
I love the feeling of reminiscence this song gives; I think there could've been a badass breakdown after the "I divided the waters for you" part. Other than that, I'm very excited for Holocene.
The ocean calms down...
I’ll be honest, this song didn’t captivate me at first listen like the first two singles did but the more I listen the more I feel. A theme I feel emotionally with the songs that have been released is one of sorrow for humanity as a whole. An abyssal emptiness. I also find myself starring at the stars with these songs. Captivating our curiosities of what’s beyond earth. Excellent work guys, I’m so stoked for this release.
Its like a post rock song, They are fans of Mogwai and the video even reminds me of their Friend Of The Night release.
Is it May yet??? My goodness this album is going to be a fun listen
Life is simple sometimes.
The Ocean:
Me: click video
Creepy and soundful
Well, that took a dark turn...
Right? I was so focused on listening with the lyrics I wasn’t even watching the video, and then at the end I looked up and saw the rope and facial imprint lol. You know I might be wrong on this but it doesn’t look human, it looks like Australopithecus. Actually hang on if I am right about that then I think I’m starting to piece together some of the deeper meaning of this song. Just a theory though
@@GrapeFlavoredAntifreeze Let's hear it!
@@1htalp9 The lyrics might undertone how Homo sapiens spreading in the area systematically eliminated the other evolving hominid species that existed in the world at the time. It’s a major theory as to why humans are BY far the most intelligent hominid species. Extermination, Interbreeding, and natural selection blended hominids into humanity and left rivals in the dust. If that’s the case the lyrics parallel it so well in a lot of places. But after reading their Instagram only talking about the biblical reference, I may be thinking too much about it. It is definitely a cool concept to think about in the Holocene though. It plays really well with the concept of anthropocentrism and our innate sense of superiority over the nature around us. Who knows what that time must have been like with so many intelligent hominid species clashing with eachother. Australopithecus is way more Pleistocene, but later hominids survived to pretty recently, although the Holocene is pushing it. It happens mostly from about 500,000 years ago to 50,000 years ago.
@@GrapeFlavoredAntifreeze Interesting theory... My thought: Maybe it's the Shroud of Turin.
@@GrapeFlavoredAntifreeze The lyrics are explicitly about the Exodus story in the Old Testament. In it the ‘Hebrews’ were saved from exile with the parting of the sea that forced the chariots of the Egyptians away.
Archaeologically there is no evidence of this occurring…but there is significant evidence of civil strife and complete denouncement of the kingdoms and city-states that ruled the Semitic region, likely these stories casting aside what was seen as Egyptian cultural norms that these vassal states adopted before the Bronze Era collapse.
Cultures and people started anew with these stories as a backbone. Israel and Judea had their own interpretations (as did other smaller tribal states nearby).
Ultimately each culture took these stories of emancipation from a dynastic and regressive culture to form their own claim to superiority over their neighbors, instead of using them as a form of human common unity that it was originally intended.
David and Solomon’s regime tried to unite the tribes, but ended up ultimately dividing them even further, and ultimately allowing them to be easily conquered - first Israel and surrounding area by the Assyrians and eventually the Judea by the Babylonians.
Eventually these stories were then stolen by the Roman Empire to create modern day Christianity in a vain and desperate (but ultimately effective) attempt to keep their over expanded empire afloat, which many of the vassal states in THEIR empire used these stories as a sort of rallying cry against the Empire, as the Judeans were by far the most rebelliousness of their conquered states (and the very reason all Judeans were forced out of the land and was renamed Palestine).
Some Judeans later tried to form an alliance with the Yemenite kingdom as they were a significant proxy power against the Romans. Through forced conversion by the kingdom, they used Judaism as a proxy for Rome’s appropriation of Christianity. Ultimately, this practice of forced conversion by this kingdom led to Islam.
The long and short of it is: instead of using these stories as a call for regional and perhaps human unity to create an egalitarian society, they instead used these stores to create their own version of events, ultimately leading to their destruction through division, and a long exile that was only remedied in the past century.
I think that’s the lesson of the song ultimately: humanity will seek to divide itself amongst each other even when there’s no reason to.
Yes 🫶🏾
🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍
I don’t know if The Ocean is just that well researched on obscure history or the lyrics coincidentally paint that picture…
Multiple cultures had the story of Exodus in ancient Judea/Israel….but told of different ‘true’ kingdoms and providences.
Samaritans had the kingdom as being holy from Israel’s perspective. Torah from Judaea’s. There’s evidence of a couple others with their own parallel interpretations that have died out after the fall of Judea and Israel, wiped out by the Assyrians, Babylonians, or Romans.
All of these factions used their shared mythology based on something truly fantastic and beautiful (escaping servitude and breaking chains to form an egalitarian (for the time) society) and twisted it for their own form of tribal nationalism. Countering the purpose of those stories and tales in the first place.
I divided the waters….not as proof or sentiment. But to create something that was foreign for humans at the time, where kings and lords kept society and civilization at a perpetual war like state.
For a time the region was just tribes of displaced people from failed kingdoms and lords that people revolted from and lived in relative peace and shared communities, but eventually kingdoms did spring out and each warred with each other, which their division was the primary reason that society did not last. The unification David and Solomon’s government tried and failed ultimately, and ended up separating the provinces even further. Leading them to be easily conquered by a juggernaut.
Both the Samaritans (eg ancient Israelites) and Jews (Judeans) despite starting their period of exile centuries apart from one another (Samaritans around 700 bce, Judaians 500 bce), interpreted the fall of their societies due to lack of worship and corruption from outsiders or the other faction. Monotheism became far more stricter in similar ways for both cultures but in different interpretations.
Yet, ultimately, those ideas from such an egalitarian society and ended up inspiring other societies after the fall of Israel and Judea: Ancient Greece, macaedonia, Rome…concepts from Judea and Israel creeped into these cultures. Later forming the basis for the two major religions (Christianity and Islam).
In essence, these insignificant tribal lands eventually became the bedrock of all modern culture. Ultimately, even though exile was seen as a punishment by both Samaritans and Judeans, the world benefited significantly from those egalitarian concepts as they eventually formed the backbone of our current modern systems as well.
Yet to this day, both cultures saw only failure of the past instead of the beauty that has emerged from the spread of these cultures unintentionally.
Perfectly epitomizes the human condition to constantly find the superficial and find reasons for each of us to separate from one another rather than unite. Greed and corruption ultimately becomes our undoing but without the self awareness to realize it.
This song is fantastic in general….but it’s given me also a completely new appreciation of my culture, history, and put things a bit in perspective on some of the areas that have frustrated me a lot in my understanding.
I prefer their heavier more metal sound. I hope the new album has some better songs on it
This song is smarter than the last album, do not call the heavier songs better just because they’re heavier. Robin if you cater to these people you’re catering to the unintelligent. Make whatever music you guys have planned, ignore these people who have no clue what you guys are setting out to create. Obviously don’t abandon your roots but the direction you guys are showing us now is very cool. Let these half fans work it out themselves
@@GrapeFlavoredAntifreeze Agreed fully, the 3 songs they have released off this album are nasty.
@@GrapeFlavoredAntifreeze lmfao wow you are one of the most pretentious people I have ran across on TH-cam. I say this as a fan of the new direction but to say someone isn’t intelligent because they aren’t a fan of a. New song and to act like your in on the new direction of the album because you are smart like them is hilarious. They don’t know you from me. You aren’t that important.
@@ericshugart9163 What a goofy comment this made me giggle pretty hard lmao. It’s almost hard to think you’re being serious.
A bit flat for my liking. A passage with some harsh vocals or more prominent guitars would have made the track more dynamic. There’s beauty in contrast, and this feels like the same vibe from start to finish.
Stop commenting this kinda stuff on single tracks. Do you just not appreciate songs like oligocene or Eocene? It’s a piece of a bigger picture. Clearly harsh vocals and instrumentals didn’t serve the purpose of this song. I’m sure it will on other songs. Not to mention it hasn’t been out for a day, you’re just basing your entire opinion on your surface level interpretation of the song, which is what The Ocean consistently tries to get people away from. Give it time if it’s not clicking for you yet
@@GrapeFlavoredAntifreeze Thank you.
@@GrapeFlavoredAntifreeze No, I will not stop commenting on single tracks. I will share my thoughts as much as I like, and I will do so in a respectful manner. This song falls flat for me, and considering the other singles are lacking big dynamic shifts as well, we can assume this is an artistic choice - one which I don’t personally enjoy. I’ve been a fan (and still am) a huge fan of the band for over decade, I have at least the right to express my honest opinion. Hopefully you’ll be able to live with it. Have a nice day.
@@juneauz I know you think you said something neutrally smart here, but you didn’t. The opinion which you have every right to express is not exempt from criticism itself. What you just did though is try to dismiss my criticism, by making no counterpoint, rather than explaining to me why you think the song is “flatline” as you have described twice now. Please tell me what you mean by that. If you’re going to make a point, by all means make it, but don’t half ass it
@@juneauz How do you feel about it now? God, after all the build up on this album, the highs of this album just... they're as high as they've ever been with Ocean. Their songs NEED the full album context.
I love grunting. Three new songs without it. I just dont like it. Sorry, just my taste. Still the older stuff to enjoy ❤️
Pfffff ok boy. Now go to make your homework
Think of this album as the calm after the storm, you're not gonna like it. But most of us will.
Might I recommend Psychonaut and Hippotraktor... me thinks you likey.
Grunts are a tool. Like any instrument. Overuse it and it becomes numb.
When bands reach they peak they realize that it’s not the use of sound that makes music powerful, but the context….and sometimes less is more.
@@RasKiddo Most of 'us'... 🤔. Sounds like a cult to me...🤣
🌊🔭👀 they’re coming. I can’t wait for this album. Been listening to Parabiosis and Proboreal on repeat! Add this to the list. 😆
absolutely perfect!