PREBOREAL LYRICS: no grasp on reality, attention shaping identities we’ve lost our capacities to construct something tangible obfuscate the past implode it with the future into an undifferentiated mass It’s never-ending a type of never-ending never-ending presence, lost inside we have all lost our way out long ago the spectacle is not a cluster of images rather it’s a social relation mediated by all those images: images are all there is the quality of life is being impoverished embrace the loss of knowledge and critical thinking the spectacle is not a cluster of images, rather it’s a social relation mediated by all those images: images are all there is the quality of life is being impoverished we embrace the rash degradation of knowledge and critical thought critical thought we are no longer critical the spectacle is not a cluster of images, rather, it’s a social relation mediated by all those images: images are all there is the quality of life is being impoverished we embrace the rash degradation of knowledge and critical thought critical thought we are not critical
The spoken words are a quote by the Isidore Ducasse (1870): «Les idées s'améliorent. Le sens des mots y participe. Le plagiat est nécessaire. Le progrès l'implique. Il serre de près la phrase d'un auteur, se sert de ses expressions, efface une idée fausse, la remplace par l'idée juste.» "Ideas improve. The sense of words takes part in it. Plagiarism is necessary. Progress involves it. It embraces the word of an author, uses its expressions, erases a false idea, replaces it by a the proper idea."
"the spectacle is not a cluster of images, rather, it’s a social relation mediated by all those images: images are all there is" are very interesting lyrics.
Confirmed. I asked Robin the last time they played in Austin (early December) about a new album and he confirmed it was a sequel/ follow up to the ongoing precambrian/ phanerozoic album themes. So stoked to see the completion of this saga. Maybe a follow up to the heliocentric/anthropocentric themes next!! Or a pelagial sequel coming back up the depths...
Someone please explain to me how they do it. Each of their new songs is not what you expected. But at the same time, each of their new songs is exactly what you wanted.
The ocean is a band that just keeps giving and giving long after I expected their concept to dry up. Keep it up, you are a shining beacon in a sea of forgettable metal that has nothing to say
Love the increasing mix of electronic synths in the overall sound of the band while remaining very heavy and organic sounding. The horn sounds around 3 minutes or so is absolutely nuts. Bravo!
Love it, this fits well to a continuation to phanerozoic pt1 and 2, yet it sounds so different also. That's why I love them so much not only are they great at setting an atmosphere and the music tells a story. They sound so different with each track yet they keep the sound of the ocean.
This is a masterpiece. It's a treatise in tension build up, pretend to release, build up some more, not releasing when expected and then opening the floodgates. All while delivering meaningful vocals with a highly charged emotional performance. Totally hooked on this album, always happy when it ends because it goes back to this track.
We need more bands ready to speak the truth. We're all getting tired of being pandered to by the attention starved. The honesty the Ocean continues to give us is a wave of fresh air.
Saw The Ocean open for Katatonia after being aware of them for years but never really taking the dive into their catalogue. Easily one of the best live shows I've ever seen, and some downright incredible albums.
Beautiful song! The Ocean reminding me why they're my favourite group :) btw yeah it seems like Preboreal could be the first part of an album focused on Holocene, so i hope for an anthropocene bit :D also i wonder if they will expand the musical style of the track Holocene from Phanerozoic 2 into a whole album, i really feel those vibes in this track and it would be an awesome idea. For those reflecting on a sequel to pelagial, I think it would make sense to have a concept on atmosphere. who knows, maybe someday :)
This song is so amazing. I bought this record for my dad (who is a massive Tool fan) in the hopes that he'll enjoy this band. I'm giving the record to him today for Christmas - wish me luck! Merry Christmas The Ocean fans!!
“Normal is not something to aspire to, it’s something to get away from.” More bands like The Ocean Collective pleasee 🙏🏼🙏🏼 Love this band so much. Ranked among my Pantheon of bands that I enjoy every single song they’ve made, I can just play an album front to back. 💙
As the thing this band is named after: vibrant, urgent, everlasting, a force to be reckoned with. Eternal love for this engine that is my favourite band 🖤
Gosh I love the philosphical references of the Ocean more and more. Very strong "La société du spectacle" vibes (french 1967 book about the degradation of life due to the nature of capitalism conditionning it to a relation to consumption and the influence it has on every media and culture) + direct quotes from Isidore Ducasse who kinda ... warned us about pointless trends and the degradation of culture/knowledge in ... 1870. Edit: I feel a little dumb now, the "strong vibes" are actually direct quotes from "The Society of the Spectacle".
I agree, however today Capitalism has turned into a WEC created global Stakeholder Capitalism, which is Fascistic by definition. It removes all individual rights and places them with the Governments and Corporations. You no longer have the ability to invest and use things you believe in. For instance, if you feel it’s your right to protect your life with a gun, the Government now will use giant investment groups like Blackrock to decide that they won’t invest in gun companies, in turn now you cannot invest in gun companies because eventually it all goes through a handful of giant “banks”. Those gun manufacturers now cannot get loans/financial backing and go out of business. Capitalism used free market, it works great until governments choose winners and losers through chosen monopoly busting, bailing out those deemed too big to fail, and over regulating which stifles small businesses. We have seen this movement towards believing in our governments, no matter what, as they lie to our faces because of the propaganda in our schools, on the news, and online. It’s been done by division into groups. If you believe in herd over individual, you belong to a certain group. If you believe in freedom and individual rights over the herd mentality, you are now deemed a terrorist. They have taken a piece from Mao, Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini to name a few. Use fascism from Mussolini, divide populations into groups, name those groups as good and evil, and destroy evil by any means necessary to have a population that obeys. Until each side can listen to each and think critically, the governments and corporations will continue to race towards full dominance. This isn’t conspiracy, it’s history repeating itself on a global scale and if we don’t all see the signs now, we will all be starved out together.
@@allanf_ "Les idées s’améliorent. Le sens des mots y participe. Le plagiat est nécessaire. Le progrès l’implique. Il serre de près la phrase d’un auteur, se sert de ses expressions, efface une idée fausse, la remplace par l’idée juste." It's a quote by an old (1870) french autor, Isidore Ducasse (aka count of Lautréamont). Basically "Ideas are improving. The meaning of the words contributes to it. Plagiarism is necessary. It is implied by progress. It grasps closely the autor's sentence, uses its phrases, erase a false idea, replacing it with a right one". The autor had a theory about how plagiarism can be both good and bad and must be used as a perpetual construction over what's already being built, but must not be just repetition. The rest of the lyrics tho seems to be quotes and adaptation of Guy Debord's "The Society of Spectacle" for some.
@@cd5642 Ah yes, tell me you're USian without telling me you own a pick-up. Capitalism turns into a dominating relation over people by nature, the government has nothing to do with it. Monopoly will happens by the very nature of capitalism especially when financiarized at our current point and inheritance being a thing. It just happens that sometimes governments aka political powers collude with economical powers as they see many interests in it, some of which personnal, which is really well showcased by the current case of Russia. Now all of this has nothing to do with fascism which is an ideology about virility, cult of heroism and exemplarism, autoritarianism and is economically tied to governments interaction with the economy as it puts the economic elites and the government in close relation. But no, your "more government = fascism, free market good" is an ideological nonsense that only american people refusing to realize liberalism is one of the main problem of our century believe. The economic aspects of fascism are "economic elites support political elites, therefore political elites support economic elites". Which is the exact opposite of the relation between economy and the government in the URSS for instance, where the economy direction IS the government. Both may worsen towards elitism and a pyramidal constitution of society, but they still have nothing related. You're basically confusing freedom/human right with individualism, which is the stereotypical liberal take. And I know, liberal means the opposite of conservative to you, but that again is a huge deviation of the original sense of the words, where liberalism used to be a philosophical/economical/political current about a society centered on individualism branded as freedom. (Spoiler: freedom isn't when "no laws", because no laws from government means others laws, often coming back to survival of the fittest).
I can feel this album finally covering the gap between their last works and Anthropocentric. I hope the last song ends where the first song of Anthropocentric begins (kinda difficult considering it starts with a scream! but who knows, Heliocentric starts with buzzing, maybe they could incorporate that)
Good conversations on this song. I really enjoyed the song on a first listen and even on repeat really got to get grasp the meaning. I then listened to it as the follow up to Phan II and leading into parabiosis and you can see where the story is going. I have to commend the band for playing the long game. But I think once Holocene is out you could listen to the 3 in sequence and just be blown away. Then we'd have to find a way to get them to do a massive live event where the do it all.
I keep coming back to this track. Between Leprous and The Ocean, they are the best bands of this generation(imo of course as thats subjective). Either way, both bands perform exceedingly well live and make masterpieces of music. Long live them both.
The entire ouvre of Jean Baudrillard is such an invaluable roadmap for understanding our contemporary conundrum. Glad to hear some of those insights resurrected for a new generation.
Hey internet stranger! Recently I've been interested in the relationship between technology/communication and the visual culture. I've just started reading about it, after taking a class in college. I'm not familiar with Jean Baudrillard, but he seems to be right up my alley. If its not too much trouble, could you recommend me a book of his, as an introduction to his approaches? :) Edit: Tag doesn't work :c
@@superfastmajolotl Howdy! "Simulacra and Simulation" is always a good start. "In the Shadow of Silent Majorities" operationalizes how the system relates to the masses, seems like it could have been written in 2020 rather than 1982. "Screened Out" is a good collection of essays on politics, media, technology, viruses, sexuality, art etc. IMO the absolute best overview of his ideas and work is by Rex Butler "Jean Baudrillard: In Defence of the Real" published by Sage (it may be out of print but with some savvy internet sleuthing you can find it).
On the Vox&Hops Podcast, Robin recently stated this is fully on Pelagic now. Seems like their contract with Metal Blade is us in a harmonious way given how much Pelagic has grown. The change just makes sense.
If every ocean song sounded like what you expected this one to, the ocean would not be half the band it is. Songs like this are necessary in the context of the album. The ocean albums are greater than the sum of their parts every time
Love The Ocean but this song's pretty mid, man. I don't really understand everybody in the comments using the word "masterpiece" so carelessly. You guys gotta raise your standards a bit.
No, you need to wrap your head around the song way better. First of all the instrumentals are fucking great on this track and mid is about the weakest word I’ve heard used to describe them here. Secondly, this song is a masterpiece at what it is, transitional/introductory track to the Holocene, while also referencing The Society of the Spectacle, which is a book that covers several topics explored in the song, among other things (just read up on it I don’t feel like sitting here for 20 minutes typing). The song provides a commentary on the concepts in the book and could be alluding to concepts in the album we haven’t even had a taste of yet. There’s an argument that can be made that it’s not a masterpiece in a vacuum but knowing the piece of music it’s going to accompany, it is a masterpiece in the role it plays. This album is supposed to be bigger and more enthralling than Phanerozoic II and hearing from people who have heard it and know it well, it seems to have exceeded those expectations. If your argument is that this song sounds too mainstream and poppy then I can’t help you man you really just don’t appreciate everything that’s happening in an ocean song. This song is like an evolved Eocene. That’s it’s apparent function. Is it softer than Jurassic? Yes? Is it softer than Isla del Sol? YES. Does any of that fucking matter? NO. This isn’t Phanerozoic II and this isn’t Fluxion. It’s a new evolving album taking us on a new journey with new sounds, and just like Eocene plays it’s role in making Phanerozoic II a greater final product than the sum of its parts, so will this song. Stop shallowly interpreting a band that simply asks that you think deeply when you listen to them
@@mindgoblin7068 Yup yup this is it right here lol. Exactly the response I expected. Shallow reply from a thoughtless husk. Now I know who I’m talking to at least. You chose to comment your opinion first on the video. You subject yourself to criticism by doing that smoothbrain. Especially when what you said was very poorly thought out. You’re more interested in being uptight about new experiences than learning from them. Sad. There’s two reasons I comment. The first is to give you the opportunity to have an actual conversation about the topic and exchange ideas and thoughts, and the second is just letting your stupidity speak for itself to other people when you choose to be a little weasel about the conversation you started and can’t finish. I no longer am doing this for you. I’m doing it for people who will take the small amount of time to read a simple handful of sentences.
PREBOREAL LYRICS:
no grasp on reality, attention shaping identities
we’ve lost our capacities
to construct something tangible
obfuscate the past
implode it with the future into
an undifferentiated mass
It’s never-ending
a type of never-ending
never-ending presence, lost inside
we have all lost our way out long ago
the spectacle is not a cluster of images
rather it’s a social relation
mediated by all those images:
images are all there is
the quality of life is being impoverished
embrace the loss of knowledge
and critical thinking
the spectacle
is not a cluster of images, rather it’s a social relation
mediated by all those images:
images are all there is
the quality of life is being impoverished
we embrace the rash degradation of knowledge and
critical thought
critical thought
we are no longer critical
the spectacle is not a cluster of images, rather, it’s a social relation
mediated by all those images:
images are all there is
the quality of life is being impoverished
we embrace the rash degradation of knowledge
and critical thought
critical thought
we are not
critical
The spoken words are a quote by the Isidore Ducasse (1870):
«Les idées s'améliorent. Le sens des mots y participe. Le plagiat est nécessaire. Le progrès l'implique. Il serre de près la phrase d'un auteur, se sert de ses expressions, efface une idée fausse, la remplace par l'idée juste.»
"Ideas improve. The sense of words takes part in it. Plagiarism is necessary. Progress involves it. It embraces the word of an author, uses its expressions, erases a false idea, replaces it by a the proper idea."
"the spectacle is not a cluster of images, rather, it’s a social relation mediated by all those images: images are all there is" are very interesting lyrics.
Inspired by Guy Debord, a French Marxist philosopher.
Preboreal is the first Holocene stage. Guess we'll have a sequel to the Phanerozoic era.
Confirmed. I asked Robin the last time they played in Austin (early December) about a new album and he confirmed it was a sequel/ follow up to the ongoing precambrian/ phanerozoic album themes. So stoked to see the completion of this saga. Maybe a follow up to the heliocentric/anthropocentric themes next!! Or a pelagial sequel coming back up the depths...
Yes a few months ago I read the same in ig that the new album starts where the last ends, from Holocene.
@@jameslevario2254 ooo a pelagial sequal would be great
@@abetterhandle going from the ground to the sky this time in good old bioshock fashon
One of the greatest bands of our generation. Never disappointing and always improving.
That brass section hits different
Someone please explain to me how they do it.
Each of their new songs is not what you expected. But at the same time, each of their new songs is exactly what you wanted.
Yes, lol😂
Death. Taxes. The Ocean Masterpiece.
You don't need to pay taxes.
Fuck yes. We are officially in Holocene and I presume we'll finish the journey before Heliocene/Anthropocene starts. Gods I love this band!
If they as Germans don't cover WW2 through the metaphors of dinosaurs with Hitrex heading the charge then I don't know what's real anymore
@@MrJimmyBeam4 hahaha, hear fucking hear!
still waiting for hyperborea😎🙏🌑
The ocean is a band that just keeps giving and giving long after I expected their concept to dry up. Keep it up, you are a shining beacon in a sea of forgettable metal that has nothing to say
So true, it all began as a concept and here we are.
Elaborate, please.
Yes. They are, definitely, one of the interesting bands with something to say in a musical era of forgettable garbage that surmounts to nothing.
Saw them play last night, amazing band.
@@Alquimista3689 Gladly. Which part of my comment?
Amazing, beautiful, unique. Most underrated band of all time.
IYKYK
underrated? maybe in your immagination.
Someone's read Guy Debord's Society of the Spectacle! Fantastic stuff as usual!
Loved this! The drum performance here is a spectacle of it's own 😅
Love the increasing mix of electronic synths in the overall sound of the band while remaining very heavy and organic sounding. The horn sounds around 3 minutes or so is absolutely nuts. Bravo!
This album has gone straight to Album of the year for me
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
The Ocean's blessings are upon us.
🙏
Love it, this fits well to a continuation to phanerozoic pt1 and 2, yet it sounds so different also. That's why I love them so much not only are they great at setting an atmosphere and the music tells a story. They sound so different with each track yet they keep the sound of the ocean.
Oh dear god, the atmosphere in this song is phenomenal \m/
Cant fucking wait for the rest of this album to be released! Greatest band in the world today!
Here we gooooo🔥🔥🔥
This is a masterpiece. It's a treatise in tension build up, pretend to release, build up some more, not releasing when expected and then opening the floodgates. All while delivering meaningful vocals with a highly charged emotional performance. Totally hooked on this album, always happy when it ends because it goes back to this track.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
We need more bands ready to speak the truth. We're all getting tired of being pandered to by the attention starved. The honesty the Ocean continues to give us is a wave of fresh air.
Yeahyeahyeahyeahyeahyeah
Let's go!! 🔥🔥🔥
Saw The Ocean open for Katatonia after being aware of them for years but never really taking the dive into their catalogue. Easily one of the best live shows I've ever seen, and some downright incredible albums.
Awesome song !! It seems that they want like an IA robot singing mode that fits with the lyrics of the song . And it fits perfectly !!
Can't wait!!
Can’t wait to hear this live,one of the best bands of the world🖤🤘🔥
Cathartic and astonishing ! This band never stops amazing me ! :D Ocean is one of my most beloved post-metal bands besides Neurosis.
The Ocean always delivers!
Beautiful song! The Ocean reminding me why they're my favourite group :)
btw yeah it seems like Preboreal could be the first part of an album focused on Holocene, so i hope for an anthropocene bit :D also i wonder if they will expand the musical style of the track Holocene from Phanerozoic 2 into a whole album, i really feel those vibes in this track and it would be an awesome idea.
For those reflecting on a sequel to pelagial, I think it would make sense to have a concept on atmosphere. who knows, maybe someday :)
Looking forward to it! 🤘🏻
Didn‘t expect a new song and I was blown away! Love it!
I love this band so much. So excited for the next chapter.
Amazing ♥
Dope! Cant wait to see ya on road!
I'm glad that I saw you guys in the University of Costa Rica tv channel and from that moment until now I liked your music very much. You're amazing.
This song is so amazing. I bought this record for my dad (who is a massive Tool fan) in the hopes that he'll enjoy this band. I'm giving the record to him today for Christmas - wish me luck! Merry Christmas The Ocean fans!!
Im massive Tool fun so im Here cuz friend recommended me the Ocean. Hope I Will Like it. 😁
YES! best start to a day, sooner than I expected too, these guys never disappoint
Spotify made me discover this song, I recognized Debord and that's probably the last thing I was expecting to find.
That's definitely a good surprise
❤
“Normal is not something to aspire to, it’s something to get away from.”
More bands like The Ocean Collective pleasee 🙏🏼🙏🏼 Love this band so much. Ranked among my Pantheon of bands that I enjoy every single song they’ve made, I can just play an album front to back. 💙
Wow, this raises the bar even higher! A masterpiece, as usual
Perfection is what i expected. Perfection is what i got. Holocene track is a gem. 👏 👏 👏
An ocean makes you think of a vast, endless continuum. So does the music penned by The Ocean. Look forward to May 19!
As the thing this band is named after: vibrant, urgent, everlasting, a force to be reckoned with. Eternal love for this engine that is my favourite band 🖤
SUPERB
Lovely
Gosh I love the philosphical references of the Ocean more and more. Very strong "La société du spectacle" vibes (french 1967 book about the degradation of life due to the nature of capitalism conditionning it to a relation to consumption and the influence it has on every media and culture) + direct quotes from Isidore Ducasse who kinda ... warned us about pointless trends and the degradation of culture/knowledge in ... 1870.
Edit: I feel a little dumb now, the "strong vibes" are actually direct quotes from "The Society of the Spectacle".
Truth! The spoken word part is even more of a direct quote since it's in the source language.
I agree, however today Capitalism has turned into a WEC created global Stakeholder Capitalism, which is Fascistic by definition. It removes all individual rights and places them with the Governments and Corporations. You no longer have the ability to invest and use things you believe in. For instance, if you feel it’s your right to protect your life with a gun, the Government now will use giant investment groups like Blackrock to decide that they won’t invest in gun companies, in turn now you cannot invest in gun companies because eventually it all goes through a handful of giant “banks”. Those gun manufacturers now cannot get loans/financial backing and go out of business. Capitalism used free market, it works great until governments choose winners and losers through chosen monopoly busting, bailing out those deemed too big to fail, and over regulating which stifles small businesses. We have seen this movement towards believing in our governments, no matter what, as they lie to our faces because of the propaganda in our schools, on the news, and online. It’s been done by division into groups. If you believe in herd over individual, you belong to a certain group. If you believe in freedom and individual rights over the herd mentality, you are now deemed a terrorist. They have taken a piece from Mao, Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini to name a few. Use fascism from Mussolini, divide populations into groups, name those groups as good and evil, and destroy evil by any means necessary to have a population that obeys. Until each side can listen to each and think critically, the governments and corporations will continue to race towards full dominance. This isn’t conspiracy, it’s history repeating itself on a global scale and if we don’t all see the signs now, we will all be starved out together.
3:13 in French, is this what you mean? Can you help identifying the actual quote?
@@allanf_ "Les idées s’améliorent. Le sens des mots y participe. Le plagiat est nécessaire. Le progrès l’implique. Il serre de près la phrase d’un auteur, se sert de ses expressions, efface une idée fausse, la remplace par l’idée juste." It's a quote by an old (1870) french autor, Isidore Ducasse (aka count of Lautréamont). Basically "Ideas are improving. The meaning of the words contributes to it. Plagiarism is necessary. It is implied by progress. It grasps closely the autor's sentence, uses its phrases, erase a false idea, replacing it with a right one". The autor had a theory about how plagiarism can be both good and bad and must be used as a perpetual construction over what's already being built, but must not be just repetition.
The rest of the lyrics tho seems to be quotes and adaptation of Guy Debord's "The Society of Spectacle" for some.
@@cd5642 Ah yes, tell me you're USian without telling me you own a pick-up. Capitalism turns into a dominating relation over people by nature, the government has nothing to do with it.
Monopoly will happens by the very nature of capitalism especially when financiarized at our current point and inheritance being a thing.
It just happens that sometimes governments aka political powers collude with economical powers as they see many interests in it, some of which personnal, which is really well showcased by the current case of Russia. Now all of this has nothing to do with fascism which is an ideology about virility, cult of heroism and exemplarism, autoritarianism and is economically tied to governments interaction with the economy as it puts the economic elites and the government in close relation. But no, your "more government = fascism, free market good" is an ideological nonsense that only american people refusing to realize liberalism is one of the main problem of our century believe.
The economic aspects of fascism are "economic elites support political elites, therefore political elites support economic elites". Which is the exact opposite of the relation between economy and the government in the URSS for instance, where the economy direction IS the government. Both may worsen towards elitism and a pyramidal constitution of society, but they still have nothing related.
You're basically confusing freedom/human right with individualism, which is the stereotypical liberal take. And I know, liberal means the opposite of conservative to you, but that again is a huge deviation of the original sense of the words, where liberalism used to be a philosophical/economical/political current about a society centered on individualism branded as freedom. (Spoiler: freedom isn't when "no laws", because no laws from government means others laws, often coming back to survival of the fittest).
I can feel this album finally covering the gap between their last works and Anthropocentric. I hope the last song ends where the first song of Anthropocentric begins (kinda difficult considering it starts with a scream! but who knows, Heliocentric starts with buzzing, maybe they could incorporate that)
Yeah, I think heliocentric comes before anthropocentric w Origin of God transitioning into Anthropocentric.
It'd be even cooler if every one of their albums are linked chronologically
Oh god ! What a gift ♥️!
This is some great stuff!
Outstanding, creative, hypnotizing, mind blowing= The Ocean
great
The last 2 minutes are pure perfection ❤❤❤😍😍😍😍
2:09 is a great cold katatonia vibe in the vocal 🤘🏼
Hermosa
Perfect. As Usual. Really looking forward to the new record!
This just made my day
I'm so said it took me 13 days to find out there was new The Ocean.
this slaps almost as hard as the reality does one bleak tuesday morning
Jadore trop !!!
The opening section remind me of something you would hear on radiohead Kid A album, good stuff.
I wonder what they’re going to do after this album…this’ll conclude ‘our’ chapter.
Yeeeeeeeeeees!
Ens tornarem a trobar al Alcatraz Fest. Brutal, la cançò,
Amazing band!
Love it!!!!
omg omg omg omg omg
Good conversations on this song. I really enjoyed the song on a first listen and even on repeat really got to get grasp the meaning. I then listened to it as the follow up to Phan II and leading into parabiosis and you can see where the story is going. I have to commend the band for playing the long game. But I think once Holocene is out you could listen to the 3 in sequence and just be blown away. Then we'd have to find a way to get them to do a massive live event where the do it all.
It’s not just the 3, Precambrian is the beginning. The story is 4 Albums with Holocene
I keep coming back to this track. Between Leprous and The Ocean, they are the best bands of this generation(imo of course as thats subjective). Either way, both bands perform exceedingly well live and make masterpieces of music. Long live them both.
They are 2 of the best bands of recent times, that much is truth. Always giving 111% to everything they do.
Wait... WAIT... Is there a new album coming soon??
I see a ticking countdown that says 24 more days... holy shit...
Believe The Lie, Mortosa. Souvenirs !
un saludo desde México mi banda actual favorita, soy fan de tool y porcupine tree
The entire ouvre of Jean Baudrillard is such an invaluable roadmap for understanding our contemporary conundrum. Glad to hear some of those insights resurrected for a new generation.
Hey internet stranger! Recently I've been interested in the relationship between technology/communication and the visual culture. I've just started reading about it, after taking a class in college. I'm not familiar with Jean Baudrillard, but he seems to be right up my alley. If its not too much trouble, could you recommend me a book of his, as an introduction to his approaches? :)
Edit: Tag doesn't work :c
@@superfastmajolotl Howdy! "Simulacra and Simulation" is always a good start. "In the Shadow of Silent Majorities" operationalizes how the system relates to the masses, seems like it could have been written in 2020 rather than 1982. "Screened Out" is a good collection of essays on politics, media, technology, viruses, sexuality, art etc. IMO the absolute best overview of his ideas and work is by Rex Butler "Jean Baudrillard: In Defence of the Real" published by Sage (it may be out of print but with some savvy internet sleuthing you can find it).
@@nomada7029 Woaaaaaah, great! I would have been overwhelmed by the options, but now I know where to start. Thanks a lot, kind stranger :)
True but these lyrics are almost directly lifted from Debord's Society of the Spectacle
@@way2goated Yeah, saw that as well in another comment thread. Man, The Ocean keeps guiding me towards interesting readings. Thanks, kind stranger :)
Hi, do someone could tell me the title of the book/autor that inspired this track please ? I want to read it 😂.
Thank you 🙏
So new album on Pelagic or Metal Blade?
New album and its will be on both labels, like the last 3 albums
On the Vox&Hops Podcast, Robin recently stated this is fully on Pelagic now. Seems like their contract with Metal Blade is us in a harmonious way given how much Pelagic has grown. The change just makes sense.
Brutal, cabrons!
I waited for the breakdown all the song, to no avail. Alright, I'll wait further down the new album 🤣
Nicely done boys, I appreciate some good ol' Deutsche Social commentary 🤣 Great song though, good job
did they sang in french ? '-'
Yes, for a bit, but, then again, Loïc IS French, so...
Good job! This is the music what i kinda expected from the new Tool album which was a misfocused, alas disappointment, at least for me.
Typo in the lyrics
Sounds unusually… but I definitely like it! Exited to get new knowledges of geologic time scale!
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Do as you are told…..you are not an individual….shut up and don’t question…..critical thinking and independence are no longer allowed.
I like the rock music and pretty girls.
3B1B music
Preboreal more like preBORING
Not their best work but still a decent song.
If every ocean song sounded like what you expected this one to, the ocean would not be half the band it is. Songs like this are necessary in the context of the album. The ocean albums are greater than the sum of their parts every time
Love The Ocean but this song's pretty mid, man. I don't really understand everybody in the comments using the word "masterpiece" so carelessly. You guys gotta raise your standards a bit.
No, you need to wrap your head around the song way better. First of all the instrumentals are fucking great on this track and mid is about the weakest word I’ve heard used to describe them here. Secondly, this song is a masterpiece at what it is, transitional/introductory track to the Holocene, while also referencing The Society of the Spectacle, which is a book that covers several topics explored in the song, among other things (just read up on it I don’t feel like sitting here for 20 minutes typing). The song provides a commentary on the concepts in the book and could be alluding to concepts in the album we haven’t even had a taste of yet. There’s an argument that can be made that it’s not a masterpiece in a vacuum but knowing the piece of music it’s going to accompany, it is a masterpiece in the role it plays. This album is supposed to be bigger and more enthralling than Phanerozoic II and hearing from people who have heard it and know it well, it seems to have exceeded those expectations. If your argument is that this song sounds too mainstream and poppy then I can’t help you man you really just don’t appreciate everything that’s happening in an ocean song. This song is like an evolved Eocene. That’s it’s apparent function. Is it softer than Jurassic? Yes? Is it softer than Isla del Sol? YES. Does any of that fucking matter? NO. This isn’t Phanerozoic II and this isn’t Fluxion. It’s a new evolving album taking us on a new journey with new sounds, and just like Eocene plays it’s role in making Phanerozoic II a greater final product than the sum of its parts, so will this song. Stop shallowly interpreting a band that simply asks that you think deeply when you listen to them
@@GrapeFlavoredAntifreeze mans really came on youtube and typed a book expecting people to read it
@@mindgoblin7068 Yup yup this is it right here lol. Exactly the response I expected. Shallow reply from a thoughtless husk. Now I know who I’m talking to at least. You chose to comment your opinion first on the video. You subject yourself to criticism by doing that smoothbrain. Especially when what you said was very poorly thought out. You’re more interested in being uptight about new experiences than learning from them. Sad. There’s two reasons I comment. The first is to give you the opportunity to have an actual conversation about the topic and exchange ideas and thoughts, and the second is just letting your stupidity speak for itself to other people when you choose to be a little weasel about the conversation you started and can’t finish. I no longer am doing this for you. I’m doing it for people who will take the small amount of time to read a simple handful of sentences.
@@mindgoblin7068 i read it
Please come back soon to Hamburg (without Karnivool 🥱).
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