The fact that Trent Reznor developed that depth of sound and grittiness in electronic music before Pro Tools was invented makes him god tier. Of course it sounds dated, but can you even comprehend how he did that in the early 90's? Admittedly it's a little hard to listen to his early stuff as a relatively well adjusted adult, because all I'm thinking is "man, this guy is depressed!"
NIN isn't bad, but honestly, a lot of other industrial rock/metal bands do what they do better. KMFDM, Pig, Ministry, Godflesh, White Zombie, Fear Factory, even Filter honestly. Plus, most of what NIN has done since The Fragile just ain't up my alley. Trent Reznor is also a massive dick. He hated on Chris Cornell for making "dance music" but he makes the soundtracks for animated kids movies... In general, he just seems like an arrogant douche.
pro tools, huh? why do people think a DAW suddenly made electronic music easy? it just makes some things more convenient, but back then he was using other digital sequencers and trackers which protools to this day doesn't include. if anything a DAW hurt music creation because people started using their eyes more than their ears.
@@diskyboy86 white zombie and filter dont touch nin imo. But my favorite nin albums are the 2000s ones lol plus The Fragile, i love the post rock elements and cinematic feel
Yep, very much agree. Glad I didn't have to go far to find this comment. It's crazy how I'll totally agree with Finn one minute and the next think he's an idiot haha
@@kwilcox417 don't take Finn too seriously. he likes so much emo garbage that his takes are definitely questionable at best. I think he's funny to watch but his opinions are total dogshit half the time
The thing is with Nine Inch Nails, production wise they were ahead of their time, but Trents songwriting is very indebted to the 80's, which I think worked best on Pretty Hate Machine and Broken (big blunt choruses to a company big noise), but the "Closer" is the first example of the clash of the new and the old (the arrangement is nuanced but the song is still kinda big and dumb). The Fragile completely amputated their 80's tendencies
@@darrenthetuber743 Not even sure what your point is, no offense. NIN evolved. Yep? It's perfectly fine to be one of the (in my half-joking opinion) crazy goobers who think PHM and Broken are the pinnacle of NIN material, but most would tell you that you just don't get it. And this is coming from somebody who thinks they have been pretty hit or miss for years and years now, so I'm not like a blindly loyal follower, but stuff like The Downward Spiral, Fragile, and And All That Could Have Been have some absolute MASTERPIECES on them, and it's largely thanks to a lot of the ambient and instrumental pieces in there that don't get the same attention as the singles. It's just apples and oranges and doesn't really sound like anything else out there in an awesome way. I'd bet your casual NIN fan couldn't even tell you if they've ever heard the song "Leaving Hope", and it's seriously one of the most beautiful, heart-wrenching pieces of music I have ever heard in my life, no hyperbole. I mean Finn also in his video right before this one defended Tool by saying he thinks Opiate is really cool. Ok cool, fair enough, but that's almost insulting when you set it against everything that went into creating an album like Lateralus that was completely unique with layers and layers to it. Equally silly take and any Tool fan would agree with me on that one too.
Ppl have got to stop taking “closer” out of context. Of course it feels awkward or dated when you take this small small part of a much larger story and only look at it face value. And even then ppl think it’s a song about just crass debaucherous sex. And Trenthas said no, sex is the surface level vehicle used to deliver a much heavier subject of someone trying anything and everything to over compensate for their desensitization or at least find their preferred method of self destruction. Not to mention all of the actual brilliant things within the songs structure like how that piano chord progression at the end is actually all over the album in various different octaves, keys, and even played in reverse, etc. there’s so much more to TDS than the general public is willing to learn.
Bro, closer is not a deep cut, it's one of the singles of the album. Of course it needs to be able to be judged on its own merits, the huge majority of people who have listened to this song have never listened to the whole album.
@@RafitoOoO never at any point did I say it WAS a “deep cut”. I’m fully aware of its single status. However, all of that is not to say that it can’t have depth. I was merely talking about how people butcher the songs actual meaning and gloss over it’s myriad complexities as a direct result of treating it like any other “single” that’s out there. Which is inherently wrong to do with this song specifically since It is in fact, part of a concept album, therefore immediately out of context when looking at it as a standalone single.
NIN are one of those bands like Soundgarden where the hits often really aren't the best tunes. Some people swear by Outshined, Spoonman, Black Hole Sun - to me they're mid-tier Soundgarden. Weird and heavy albums cuts like Slaves and Bulldozers, Head Down, that's where it's at. Lots of 90's alt bands weren't really singles-oriented by nature. When they tried to go poppy (by their standards at least) it wasn't always the best stuff.
That really was such a trash ass take, like NIN is one of the most versatile and groundbreaking acts out there when you have extreme industrial rock type stuff on one hand and then some of the most hauntingly beautiful, heart-wrenching instrumental ambient stuff or whatever you wanna call it on the other, you can't just point at Closer and go "this is what NIN is", that's ludicrous. Plus I still think Closer is fuckin killer as a single and the production is crazy.
@@michaelhaydenbell also the fact people are still hearing closer for the first time these days losing their $@#% speaks to NIN's longevity. ofc it's not for everyone, and yea there is stuff 20, even 30 years before trent that was more inventive (that he often credits)
That comment about edgy RV's is spot-on. Went to a Virginia camping ground with my girlfriend's grandparents and cousins and stuff. Every single one looks like 90's soda cups, and they're all called THE WARLOCK or VIPERS EDGE.
I really like how you’re commenting on and discussion Goth and Industrial a bit more. They’re extremely important and MASSIVE parts of the punk/alternative scenes. Keep it going! I hope you make videos exploring them and the artists within those genres and the scenes. There still a lot of Goths and Rivetheads out here waiting for you to throw us a bone Finn! 🖤
The Mayhem logo is hands down the greatest of all time. Not only does it look really cool, but it doesn't look like any other logo and is instantly recognizable
Most people think of Hellbilly Deluxe (which is great) when talking about Rob Zombie, but I find The Sinister Urge to be some of his best solo stuff. It's high energy, has the orchestral elements, and sounds like a fun Halloween party.
I'm in the same boat. That was peak Zombie when he was firing on all cylinders. Educated Horses was different and not as good, but that was a fun listen too.
Possessed is peak thrash/death and I was pretty young when Californication came out(99) so that album is still nostalgic for me. I think I like the guitar work and fleas bass the most for rhcp
I’m a sucker for weird industrial sounding music so NIN is right up my alley, but even for me it’s not like an everyday listen band. I kind of need to be in a specific mood to listen to and enjoy their music.
Finn, just for the record (not a megadeth fan), android are really majority in the rest of the world, it really is only the US that is dominated by Appe. So yeah, most likely there's a lot non us people answering in the poll
I worked with a nurse who loved Rob Zombie and got the VIP. He didn't say a word to her she was so disappointed I never heard her talk about him again.
I’ve always found the RV thing hilarious! They have the designs and always have huge, jagged, disproportionate letters spelling out words that are probably meant to invoke feelings of rugged toughness. There’s absolutely nothing rugged or tough about driving around in a luxury apartment.
Finn farming for engagement with the NIN comments. I see what you did there ("have you listened to them lately" then plays a song from '94). Well played, sir!
As a big White Zombie fan, and general fan of Rob Zombie's existence, his solo stuff is kinda Spirit Halloweencore, like you could tell the guys in White Zombie were into horror movies and what not, but with Rob Zombie, it almost feels like you can only listen to his stuff during Halloween, it's all just a bit too dorky and over the top. I do like his first album at least, even though when it released in 1998, there was so much music that sounded like it, Static-X, Powerman 5000, The Union Underground, nu-industrial if you will. Can't forget the horny German juggernauts Rammstein either, but they at least weren't nu-metal. Also, don't tell Mr. Zombie this, but he looks like he smells like shit. I mean it in the nicest way possible. I don't know for sure, I've obviously not smelled Rob Zombie, but just looking at him, it gives off the impression he doesn't smell the best.
I like nine inch nails. I thought closer was kinda corny at the time, but the video was cool. It’s been a while but I think closer is one of the worst songs on the album. They do have a lot of music I genuinely like, or at least did at the time
Their Woodstock 94 performance is legendary and when they played closer they blew it out of the water. And closer becomes a bit less corny when you know what it’s about. It’s a very tragic song. The downward spiral is my favorite album of all time.
@@thomasanthony5021I feel like your opinion on Closer greatly depends on the attitude you have listening to it. Personally, I think it's a brilliant song with the way it just builds intensity the whole time with the various strange noises. How it starts off very quiet and at the end, it's very noisy. It works even better following songs like Heresy and March of the Pigs. It's just so messed up but also so catchy. I'm actually a bit shocked Finn thought it was trash.
@@neolbioldey it might have partially been a case of it just being inescapable and played to death. plenty of otherwise decent songs get ruined for me that way. but it still is pretty far down the list of their songs in order of how much i like them
@@thomasanthony5021 i liked the album as a whole. i probably liked the fragile more. it's been a really long time since i've listened to either of them
There's no better music for wallowing in self-pity. For a drunken pity party, The Downward Spiral is unmatched. But I don't want to sit around feeling sorry for myself. I want to improve my life and succeed. I don't want to dwell on past failures. And so, NIN doesn't gel with me. I'm more of a Pantera "YEAH lets kick ass and get things done!" guy than a NIN "my life is fucked up and i feel like shit" guy.
@@throttlehorn Funny when that's the stuff that sounds most like other music out there than anything else they made but sure, man. It doesn't have to be for everyone and I'll just tell you that saying you're in the minority is a massive understatement.
NIN gotta be in my top 10 favorite bands, but they're dancing around incredibly cool and super corny from time to time. I like it like dat tho, awesome fanbase too.
I hate how most of your chat on stream just agrees with anything you have to say. Like you can be a fan of Finn and not completely agree with everything he has to say. Just feels forced, read the chat after he makes any statement or gives you any opinion on something.
Dude, im so tired of hearing random people criticize the "age gap" in celebrity relationships. As long as everyone is old enough to consent they make their own decisions and the reality is if we are single in our 60s we will want to date 20 year olds too. Want to know why? Because people in their 60s don't look that great.
@sixty2612 I wonder, too. I worked at a wrap shop, and people would bring their RV in and could have anything in the world put on them. 100% wanted the tribal.
@@DrProfessorMD it’s just such a standard in the whole industry nobody knows anything different. I just tried googling the origins of it and didn’t find any real answers. Most people said it’s a way to break up what would otherwise be plain, large surfaces. But you could do that with designs that aren’t swoopy or tribal-tattooesque. Maybe there’s like one guy that designs all of them who’s been around all these years haha
NIN logo is so simple that it doesn’t even stand out when you’re playing Quake. It’s all over the place on industrial equipment and nailgun ammo. The whole soundtrack was done by NIN, and it goes to show that they’re not so much a band as Trent Reznor himself is just an industrial composer
Can't relate on NIN. Absolutely iconic composition and production, and in a different class compared to other industrial acts of the time. In fact, I think Skinny Puppy's entire catalog has aged FAR worse than any NIN song has. Seriously I beg you, listen to any song from Last Rights. It's a completely unlistenable album to me, not exaggerating. Their other offerings don't get much better either. I'd rather listen to a whole Gravity Kills album than sit through 1 whole Skinny Puppy song. This leads me to my question; did any other industrial music age better? Certainly not to me. The sounds involved can be harsh, grating, and even comical when they give off that "Home Depot, but edgy" vibe. Honestly, it's just hard to make industrial sound good, especially when you bring people's taste into the equation. That being said, NIN was at the top of the scene for a reason. Trent molded the sound into something widely accessible, yet unique. He built a successful life-long career from it as well, that should count for something. Personally I think it's easily distinguishable from similar works of the era, pretty sure that's why it doesn't sound dated to me. It may not be the most complex music, but simplicity can seem like perfection when executed properly.
@@michaelhaydenbell I’m actually a pretty big fan, first concert I went to was Downward Spiral tour, and have seen them five times since. Kept up with the music too, just don’t think anything tops PHM and maybe Broken ep.
I disagree but I can see why you might feel that way. It's funny because no one would have said that 20 years ago. I think it has to do with the 80s retro appeal.
@@michaelhaydenbell LOL right...PHM stans are actually more annoying than NIN haters. The Fragile and With Teeth both have like 5 songs each that outclass anything on Pretty Hate Machine
I didn’t like 9 in nails until I was older so I don’t think it’s nostalgia or anything. I do love their sound it feels very gritty and stripped back for electronic but a lot is also extremely aggressive sections in their music. For industrial I think they are top and metal in general I think they have a good place as a notable band
Would love to see you do something like this but with album covers. Maybe as important as logos back in the day for discovering new bands (for better or worse) and they basically don't matter anymore.
Closer is soooooo over played. IMO Pretty Hate Machine is the best NIN album but Downward Spiral was very good as an album. "As an album" Listened to from beginning to end. That damn song is by no means the best on it.
I have to give props to "Closer" because no song has viscerally affected me like it. I saw the music video when I was seven or eight and it gave me nightmares for like 5 years.
I’ve heard it put that Rob Zombie is “dance music for dirtbags”; it’s definitely strip club music. I actually do like his music somewhat. He’s not my favorite by any means, but the music’s not bad.
I laugh every time you bring up Christian Death. That first LP with Rikk Agnew on guitar is pretty cool, but if you're expecting something like Possessed or Mayhem only to hear the goth version of Elmer Fudd, I can totally get your disappointment.😅
The thing about the first Green Day logo is that they couldn't get their cover issued in time for release, so a Lookout executive had to make a plain green cover with the EP title, and that rushed logo.
POSSESSED IS MY FAVORITE BAND!! also my brother once threw a pair of craft scissors that were too dull to cut paper and they hit me in the face and cut my face open. i had to get stitches 😭 Also i was 3
Fun fact: the heart grenade Green Day logo was designed for a skate company by Jef Whitehead of the one man black metal band, Leviathan. He's also from the same area as GD and even sorta knew them as they are in the same age group and GD started out as more of metal band before settling more towards punk rock.
I guess Closer sounds a bit dated now compared to what's been done in electronica-infused rock since then, but TDS is still a timeless classic. Amazing concept album and nothing else sounds like it, partly because it's such a mixed bag.
Mike Torrao was a great guitarist and his style was massively influential. While no band invents a genre, I would say Possessed's version of thrash metal bucked most of the trends at that time. Mike Sus' drumming wasn't exact and honestly was the opposite of Dave Lombardo in how off the mark it was BUT, I can't imagine the drumming being any other way. I think Torrao and Sus made 'Seven Churches' the record we love today. Their second album though was...and then the 'Eyes of Horror' EP in 1987 was good but no one was still following Possessed at that point.
06:19 :D thought pretty much the same, they just took a pair of scissors and some paper, cut out their band name and then took a bag full of spray paint and put their name on every wall in town.
I misread this as "BRAND logos" 😂 I was about to comment that Peavey objectively has the best brand logo ever while also simultaneously making the most subpar products (besides the 5150/6505). Who would he the band equivaent of this? AC/DC?
For what it's worth, I live in Anthony Kiedis' hometown. He still visits from time to time, will gladly take pictures and do autographs. My mother in law is friends with Anthony's mom. He takes very good care of her. It's creepy the way he's into those younger women, but he's not all bad.
Mayhem’s first EP was great and their first album was instrumentally great but their vocalist on that album is just really off putting to me, but the live record versions of those songs go hard af.
How do you dock RHCP and not Green Day? Both had good early career music. Both fell off and started making trash music. I think they had a very similar trajectory.
I Actually agree with everything except Pantera. I think their logo is pretty cool. Very simple, also works well as stickers and on t-shirts. Pantera is also a great band name.
Anthony Kiedis was so depressed when he found out COVID-19 wasn’t date-able.
COVID-19 was too old for him anyway.
Oof 😅
..oohh😂
You aren’t funny & no one laughed
@@higherpower-fp2jd why u butt hurt friend?
Anthony Kiedis is holding that woman like a 4 year old holding a fat cat
Made me laugh. Thanks.
Nailed it.
So true.
😂
The fact that Trent Reznor developed that depth of sound and grittiness in electronic music before Pro Tools was invented makes him god tier. Of course it sounds dated, but can you even comprehend how he did that in the early 90's? Admittedly it's a little hard to listen to his early stuff as a relatively well adjusted adult, because all I'm thinking is "man, this guy is depressed!"
Skinny Puppy did it in the 80s!
Pretty Hate Machine was basically Skinny Puppy with more accessible vocals
NIN isn't bad, but honestly, a lot of other industrial rock/metal bands do what they do better. KMFDM, Pig, Ministry, Godflesh, White Zombie, Fear Factory, even Filter honestly. Plus, most of what NIN has done since The Fragile just ain't up my alley. Trent Reznor is also a massive dick. He hated on Chris Cornell for making "dance music" but he makes the soundtracks for animated kids movies... In general, he just seems like an arrogant douche.
pro tools, huh? why do people think a DAW suddenly made electronic music easy? it just makes some things more convenient, but back then he was using other digital sequencers and trackers which protools to this day doesn't include. if anything a DAW hurt music creation because people started using their eyes more than their ears.
@@diskyboy86 white zombie and filter dont touch nin imo. But my favorite nin albums are the 2000s ones lol plus The Fragile, i love the post rock elements and cinematic feel
I still think NIN sound great, the atmosphere and darkness are really unique.
The Pantera logo makes me think of camo cargo shorts.
HOOOOO-ly SHIT that NIN take was bad. Yikes.
Yep, very much agree. Glad I didn't have to go far to find this comment. It's crazy how I'll totally agree with Finn one minute and the next think he's an idiot haha
@@kwilcox417 don't take Finn too seriously. he likes so much emo garbage that his takes are definitely questionable at best. I think he's funny to watch but his opinions are total dogshit half the time
I am admittedly biased but that's by far the worst take from him on this channel.😂
The thing is with Nine Inch Nails, production wise they were ahead of their time, but Trents songwriting is very indebted to the 80's, which I think worked best on Pretty Hate Machine and Broken (big blunt choruses to a company big noise), but the "Closer" is the first example of the clash of the new and the old (the arrangement is nuanced but the song is still kinda big and dumb). The Fragile completely amputated their 80's tendencies
@@darrenthetuber743 Not even sure what your point is, no offense. NIN evolved. Yep? It's perfectly fine to be one of the (in my half-joking opinion) crazy goobers who think PHM and Broken are the pinnacle of NIN material, but most would tell you that you just don't get it. And this is coming from somebody who thinks they have been pretty hit or miss for years and years now, so I'm not like a blindly loyal follower, but stuff like The Downward Spiral, Fragile, and And All That Could Have Been have some absolute MASTERPIECES on them, and it's largely thanks to a lot of the ambient and instrumental pieces in there that don't get the same attention as the singles. It's just apples and oranges and doesn't really sound like anything else out there in an awesome way. I'd bet your casual NIN fan couldn't even tell you if they've ever heard the song "Leaving Hope", and it's seriously one of the most beautiful, heart-wrenching pieces of music I have ever heard in my life, no hyperbole.
I mean Finn also in his video right before this one defended Tool by saying he thinks Opiate is really cool. Ok cool, fair enough, but that's almost insulting when you set it against everything that went into creating an album like Lateralus that was completely unique with layers and layers to it. Equally silly take and any Tool fan would agree with me on that one too.
Ppl have got to stop taking “closer” out of context. Of course it feels awkward or dated when you take this small small part of a much larger story and only look at it face value. And even then ppl think it’s a song about just crass debaucherous sex. And Trenthas said no, sex is the surface level vehicle used to deliver a much heavier subject of someone trying anything and everything to over compensate for their desensitization or at least find their preferred method of self destruction. Not to mention all of the actual brilliant things within the songs structure like how that piano chord progression at the end is actually all over the album in various different octaves, keys, and even played in reverse, etc. there’s so much more to TDS than the general public is willing to learn.
Yeah I bout dropkicked my monitor when he was saying that goofy shit lol.
I want to learn more. Please reveal to me the layers.
Bro, closer is not a deep cut, it's one of the singles of the album. Of course it needs to be able to be judged on its own merits, the huge majority of people who have listened to this song have never listened to the whole album.
@@RafitoOoO never at any point did I say it WAS a “deep cut”. I’m fully aware of its single status. However, all of that is not to say that it can’t have depth. I was merely talking about how people butcher the songs actual meaning and gloss over it’s myriad complexities as a direct result of treating it like any other “single” that’s out there. Which is inherently wrong to do with this song specifically since It is in fact, part of a concept album, therefore immediately out of context when looking at it as a standalone single.
The hand that feeds is my personal favorite song from them, but closer is pretty good.
I see a Pantera logo and I think, "Dammit Pantera, this beer's warm!"
beavis and butthead reference...nice!
Trent Reznor has god-tier artistic vision & he walked so that basically the entire 2010’s trap metal scene could run.
NIN are one of those bands like Soundgarden where the hits often really aren't the best tunes. Some people swear by Outshined, Spoonman, Black Hole Sun - to me they're mid-tier Soundgarden. Weird and heavy albums cuts like Slaves and Bulldozers, Head Down, that's where it's at. Lots of 90's alt bands weren't really singles-oriented by nature. When they tried to go poppy (by their standards at least) it wasn't always the best stuff.
That really was such a trash ass take, like NIN is one of the most versatile and groundbreaking acts out there when you have extreme industrial rock type stuff on one hand and then some of the most hauntingly beautiful, heart-wrenching instrumental ambient stuff or whatever you wanna call it on the other, you can't just point at Closer and go "this is what NIN is", that's ludicrous. Plus I still think Closer is fuckin killer as a single and the production is crazy.
@@michaelhaydenbell also the fact people are still hearing closer for the first time these days losing their $@#% speaks to NIN's longevity. ofc it's not for everyone, and yea there is stuff 20, even 30 years before trent that was more inventive (that he often credits)
That comment about edgy RV's is spot-on. Went to a Virginia camping ground with my girlfriend's grandparents and cousins and stuff. Every single one looks like 90's soda cups, and they're all called THE WARLOCK or VIPERS EDGE.
Just a side note that no one may read but, Weird Al singing Closer is a fucking gem 😂😂😂
Richard CHeese is better
I really like how you’re commenting on and discussion Goth and Industrial a bit more.
They’re extremely important and MASSIVE parts of the punk/alternative scenes. Keep it going! I hope you make videos exploring them and the artists within those genres and the scenes.
There still a lot of Goths and Rivetheads out here waiting for you to throw us a bone Finn!
🖤
Anthony Keidis is just John Waters and Jello Biafra duct taped together.
That first mayhem is grossly unhinged and I love it
Profanatica is my favorite black metal band
@@startervisionsvery good indeed but GRAND BELIAL’S KEY are better from the US
Ill never forget the FYE in the mall because you could scan the cd and sample it
The Mayhem logo is hands down the greatest of all time. Not only does it look really cool, but it doesn't look like any other logo and is instantly recognizable
Most people think of Hellbilly Deluxe (which is great) when talking about Rob Zombie, but I find The Sinister Urge to be some of his best solo stuff. It's high energy, has the orchestral elements, and sounds like a fun Halloween party.
I'm in the same boat. That was peak Zombie when he was firing on all cylinders. Educated Horses was different and not as good, but that was a fun listen too.
Possessed is peak thrash/death and I was pretty young when Californication came out(99) so that album is still nostalgic for me. I think I like the guitar work and fleas bass the most for rhcp
Also nin best album is with teeth. It feels like more of an Indie rock album or something with the occasional depressing song
Literally calling my wife from work right now to see if we can rename our 1978 Class C Chevy RV to either "the Marauder" or "the Rapist" ..
Alright.
I’m a sucker for weird industrial sounding music so NIN is right up my alley, but even for me it’s not like an everyday listen band. I kind of need to be in a specific mood to listen to and enjoy their music.
If NIN is weird industrial to you, avoid Throbbing Gristle.
Finn, just for the record (not a megadeth fan), android are really majority in the rest of the world, it really is only the US that is dominated by Appe. So yeah, most likely there's a lot non us people answering in the poll
Apple fans are a small (but annoyingly loud) minority here in the US, so proud to overpay for tech that Android had 5 years earlier
The best Nine Inch Nails song was Hurt by Johnny Cash
NIN is awesome to me. It’s just not to Finn’s taste. Finn likes punk rock. I like post-punk, goth and industrial. To each his own.
I like punk rock too, and I love NIN. Finn is just an idiot in his opinion of NIN lol
@@fray3dendsofsanity It’s really, objectively, not very good. Thoughtful critique!
“Rob Zombie seems like a really cool nice humble guy.”
I think there are 3 musicians that might disagree lol.
Well Rob needed to nap and their soundcheck was bothering him
I worked with a nurse who loved Rob Zombie and got the VIP. He didn't say a word to her she was so disappointed I never heard her talk about him again.
I’ve always found the RV thing hilarious! They have the designs and always have huge, jagged, disproportionate letters spelling out words that are probably meant to invoke feelings of rugged toughness. There’s absolutely nothing rugged or tough about driving around in a luxury apartment.
Finn farming for engagement with the NIN comments. I see what you did there ("have you listened to them lately" then plays a song from '94). Well played, sir!
"Have you listened to them lately" doesn't mean "have you listened to their newer stuff"
@@hrotha dude, I was making a joke. DO not take it too seriously!
Welcome to Planet Motherfucker / Psychoholic Slag is still the best Robert / White Zombie song. You need nothing else.
La Sexorcisto is my recommendation
As a big White Zombie fan, and general fan of Rob Zombie's existence, his solo stuff is kinda Spirit Halloweencore, like you could tell the guys in White Zombie were into horror movies and what not, but with Rob Zombie, it almost feels like you can only listen to his stuff during Halloween, it's all just a bit too dorky and over the top. I do like his first album at least, even though when it released in 1998, there was so much music that sounded like it, Static-X, Powerman 5000, The Union Underground, nu-industrial if you will. Can't forget the horny German juggernauts Rammstein either, but they at least weren't nu-metal. Also, don't tell Mr. Zombie this, but he looks like he smells like shit. I mean it in the nicest way possible. I don't know for sure, I've obviously not smelled Rob Zombie, but just looking at him, it gives off the impression he doesn't smell the best.
He is great for Halloween playlists though, along with alot of psychobilly bands, post-Danzig Misfits, and Helloween 😂
It’s the gnarly old matted dreads. I always think people with dreads probably smell! 😂
I was on board till the NIN one. Like come on man…
well he did say "objectively" so he must be correct
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And Rob Zombie.
Freezing Moon goes so hard, I blast it at work
We've rage baited with this one 🗣️🔥🔥
I like nine inch nails. I thought closer was kinda corny at the time, but the video was cool. It’s been a while but I think closer is one of the worst songs on the album. They do have a lot of music I genuinely like, or at least did at the time
Their Woodstock 94 performance is legendary and when they played closer they blew it out of the water.
And closer becomes a bit less corny when you know what it’s about. It’s a very tragic song.
The downward spiral is my favorite album of all time.
@@thomasanthony5021I feel like your opinion on Closer greatly depends on the attitude you have listening to it. Personally, I think it's a brilliant song with the way it just builds intensity the whole time with the various strange noises. How it starts off very quiet and at the end, it's very noisy. It works even better following songs like Heresy and March of the Pigs. It's just so messed up but also so catchy. I'm actually a bit shocked Finn thought it was trash.
@@neolbioldey it might have partially been a case of it just being inescapable and played to death. plenty of otherwise decent songs get ruined for me that way. but it still is pretty far down the list of their songs in order of how much i like them
@@thomasanthony5021 i liked the album as a whole. i probably liked the fragile more. it's been a really long time since i've listened to either of them
Nine Inch Nails was one of those bands I WANTED to like more than I actually did.
There's no better music for wallowing in self-pity. For a drunken pity party, The Downward Spiral is unmatched. But I don't want to sit around feeling sorry for myself. I want to improve my life and succeed. I don't want to dwell on past failures. And so, NIN doesn't gel with me. I'm more of a Pantera "YEAH lets kick ass and get things done!" guy than a NIN "my life is fucked up and i feel like shit" guy.
My thoughts exactly. I WANTED to like them and to be able to wear that logo with pride, but I just couldn't. But it is a hell of a logo.
I will say I really like their EP "Broken". It's some good hard and aggressive stuff, makes me ask why the rest of their stuff wasn't like that.
@@throttlehorn Funny when that's the stuff that sounds most like other music out there than anything else they made but sure, man. It doesn't have to be for everyone and I'll just tell you that saying you're in the minority is a massive understatement.
NIN gotta be in my top 10 favorite bands, but they're dancing around incredibly cool and super corny from time to time. I like it like dat tho, awesome fanbase too.
How about judging and album based on it's cover and then if the music actually is representative of the cover
the green day "heart grendade" was stolen from thunder skateboard trucks
I hate how most of your chat on stream just agrees with anything you have to say. Like you can be a fan of Finn and not completely agree with everything he has to say. Just feels forced, read the chat after he makes any statement or gives you any opinion on something.
Closer by NIN still really good song but as big fan i wouldnt put in my 10 fav songs by NIN.
most of my top 10 would be from the Fragile album, aside from Wish and Hurt
"Hey check out this Nine Inch Nails bullshit nowadays.." (plays video from 1994)
9:00 The Rob Zombie kids are the ones that listen to Powerman 5000.
Dude, im so tired of hearing random people criticize the "age gap" in celebrity relationships. As long as everyone is old enough to consent they make their own decisions and the reality is if we are single in our 60s we will want to date 20 year olds too. Want to know why? Because people in their 60s don't look that great.
It's actually misogyny. They think women in age 20 or above are children
I used to have to design those RV swoops. I quite literally just looked up tribal tattoo flash and ripped it off.
I’m genuinely curious where the RV graphics aesthetic comes from and why every RV has it even though you don’t see anything like it on other vehicles
@sixty2612 I wonder, too. I worked at a wrap shop, and people would bring their RV in and could have anything in the world put on them. 100% wanted the tribal.
@@DrProfessorMD it’s just such a standard in the whole industry nobody knows anything different. I just tried googling the origins of it and didn’t find any real answers. Most people said it’s a way to break up what would otherwise be plain, large surfaces. But you could do that with designs that aren’t swoopy or tribal-tattooesque. Maybe there’s like one guy that designs all of them who’s been around all these years haha
NIN logo is so simple that it doesn’t even stand out when you’re playing Quake. It’s all over the place on industrial equipment and nailgun ammo.
The whole soundtrack was done by NIN, and it goes to show that they’re not so much a band as Trent Reznor himself is just an industrial composer
The Ranger's sound effects were also Trent. When you jump around, the HUP HUP HUP is him!
@@IzunaSlap that’s pretty funny
Girls liked NIN growing up
the cute goth chicks liked Trent, the not so cute ones preferred Manson
@@IzunaSlap Lol
Can't relate on NIN. Absolutely iconic composition and production, and in a different class compared to other industrial acts of the time. In fact, I think Skinny Puppy's entire catalog has aged FAR worse than any NIN song has. Seriously I beg you, listen to any song from Last Rights. It's a completely unlistenable album to me, not exaggerating. Their other offerings don't get much better either. I'd rather listen to a whole Gravity Kills album than sit through 1 whole Skinny Puppy song.
This leads me to my question; did any other industrial music age better? Certainly not to me. The sounds involved can be harsh, grating, and even comical when they give off that "Home Depot, but edgy" vibe. Honestly, it's just hard to make industrial sound good, especially when you bring people's taste into the equation. That being said, NIN was at the top of the scene for a reason. Trent molded the sound into something widely accessible, yet unique. He built a successful life-long career from it as well, that should count for something. Personally I think it's easily distinguishable from similar works of the era, pretty sure that's why it doesn't sound dated to me. It may not be the most complex music, but simplicity can seem like perfection when executed properly.
finn didn't pick up on the fact rhcp logo is supposed to be a butthole
Nine Inch Nails' best album was the Quake Soundtrack fite me
Quake 1 was the best Id Software game
much better than Ghosts, which is a kinda awkward listen if you're expecting ambient
You skipped through the single best part of mayhems discography which is the intro to freezing moon
Pretty Hate Machine actually aged better than later NIN. Not sure why, better songs maybe?
Love how the people saying this seem to only know like 5 NIN songs. What you just said is insane lol.
@@michaelhaydenbell I’m actually a pretty big fan, first concert I went to was Downward Spiral tour, and have seen them five times since. Kept up with the music too, just don’t think anything tops PHM and maybe Broken ep.
I disagree but I can see why you might feel that way. It's funny because no one would have said that 20 years ago. I think it has to do with the 80s retro appeal.
@@michaelhaydenbell LOL right...PHM stans are actually more annoying than NIN haters. The Fragile and With Teeth both have like 5 songs each that outclass anything on Pretty Hate Machine
Is an iPhone 6 with a cracked screen really an iPhone?
I didn’t like 9 in nails until I was older so I don’t think it’s nostalgia or anything. I do love their sound it feels very gritty and stripped back for electronic but a lot is also extremely aggressive sections in their music. For industrial I think they are top and metal in general I think they have a good place as a notable band
Damn. Finn went raw on NIN. Honestly, I am sick and tired of "closer." Heard it too many times.
I feel like Closer is a brilliant song. Surprised Finn thought it was trash
Wait a second, Green Day's Nimrod "not good?" I'd say it's probably their best or second best album.
It's their best album. I like finn but he has some shit takes
I'm a numetal guy and I have cricket wireless lol with a broken screen I might add
I feel like Mayhem's borderline unreadable logo set the standard by which all unreadable black metal logos are measured
Honestly I love the chili peppers. They have a ton of great hits (albeit a lot of terrible songs too). BSSM is their best work
My favorite logo is MGK's logo because MGK is the band behind it. MGK invented the band logo. MGK bless you on this day MGK created for us.
Would love to see you do something like this but with album covers. Maybe as important as logos back in the day for discovering new bands (for better or worse) and they basically don't matter anymore.
iPhones are boomer phones and Megadeth is boomer music. Makes perfect sense to me
iphones are boomer phones? Alrighty lol.
@@michaelhaydenbell Yaduh
I had a feeling u were gona trigger me with this topic why did u not include a graphic designer in the video 😂
U continue to have the worst takes bro
A better question would be who's a better vocalist? Dave Mustane or Getty Lee, do a poll on that. Personally I would say Mustane.
Closer is soooooo over played. IMO Pretty Hate Machine is the best NIN album but Downward Spiral was very good as an album. "As an album" Listened to from beginning to end. That damn song is by no means the best on it.
OMG You just don't understand the meaning DAD!!
RVs do that so the men buying an RV instead of a Ferrari still feel cool.
15:55 someone drug test this man
Looks nothing like a chili pepper
I have to give props to "Closer" because no song has viscerally affected me like it. I saw the music video when I was seven or eight and it gave me nightmares for like 5 years.
>NIN sounds like a local band
kek wut? Ok, zoomer.
I’ve heard it put that Rob Zombie is “dance music for dirtbags”; it’s definitely strip club music.
I actually do like his music somewhat. He’s not my favorite by any means, but the music’s not bad.
I laugh every time you bring up Christian Death. That first LP with Rikk Agnew on guitar is pretty cool, but if you're expecting something like Possessed or Mayhem only to hear the goth version of Elmer Fudd, I can totally get your disappointment.😅
The thing about the first Green Day logo is that they couldn't get their cover issued in time for release, so a Lookout executive had to make a plain green cover with the EP title, and that rushed logo.
POSSESSED IS MY FAVORITE BAND!! also my brother once threw a pair of craft scissors that were too dull to cut paper and they hit me in the face and cut my face open. i had to get stitches 😭 Also i was 3
Fun fact: the heart grenade Green Day logo was designed for a skate company by Jef Whitehead of the one man black metal band, Leviathan. He's also from the same area as GD and even sorta knew them as they are in the same age group and GD started out as more of metal band before settling more towards punk rock.
I guess Closer sounds a bit dated now compared to what's been done in electronica-infused rock since then, but TDS is still a timeless classic. Amazing concept album and nothing else sounds like it, partly because it's such a mixed bag.
Come on nine inch nails are great the downward spiral/broken ep
Mike Torrao was a great guitarist and his style was massively influential. While no band invents a genre, I would say Possessed's version of thrash metal bucked most of the trends at that time. Mike Sus' drumming wasn't exact and honestly was the opposite of Dave Lombardo in how off the mark it was BUT, I can't imagine the drumming being any other way. I think Torrao and Sus made 'Seven Churches' the record we love today. Their second album though was...and then the 'Eyes of Horror' EP in 1987 was good but no one was still following Possessed at that point.
06:19 :D thought pretty much the same, they just took a pair of scissors and some paper, cut out their band name and then took a bag full of spray paint and put their name on every wall in town.
Kiedis: You don't understand, it's about California.
Not a massive Nin fan but 'We're In This Together Now' is one of thd greatest songs ever in any genre!
Rob Zombie sure looks like a cool dude, but stories from Buzz from the Melvins made that questionable 🤔
1:30 nah i'm suprised that iphones finaly have some advanced technology like having icon anywhere they want
Thr dude from Primus played in possessed? Man, didn’t know that. Crazy!
Kiedis actually looks very good for a sixty year because of all the cosmetic procedures he has had done.
Bro... Boomers use iPhones. Of course, they are Megadeth fans.
Yeah I don't know why everyone acts like iPhones are so cutting edge. Best thing I did was ditch them in 2017.
I misread this as "BRAND logos" 😂
I was about to comment that Peavey objectively has the best brand logo ever while also simultaneously making the most subpar products (besides the 5150/6505). Who would he the band equivaent of this? AC/DC?
Finn mentioning Green Day for the 100th time and ignoring that insomniac exists.
Concerning the Chili Peppers, Finn... you have every right to be wrong.
For what it's worth, I live in Anthony Kiedis' hometown. He still visits from time to time, will gladly take pictures and do autographs. My mother in law is friends with Anthony's mom. He takes very good care of her. It's creepy the way he's into those younger women, but he's not all bad.
What's "creepy"?
Mayhem’s first EP was great and their first album was instrumentally great but their vocalist on that album is just really off putting to me, but the live record versions of those songs go hard af.
de mysteriis is overproduced, live in liepzig supremacy forever
Is NIN’s music great? It’s pretty okay but credit where it is due, Trent Reznor does great soundtrack work specifically that of Quake’s
Finn the type of fella to pick barracks bunny as a spouse because shes the most popular
I still don't know how you can say Insomniac and Nimrod are so-so.
How do you dock RHCP and not Green Day? Both had good early career music. Both fell off and started making trash music. I think they had a very similar trajectory.
Was a little disappointed that Deftones wasn't involved in this vid.
I Actually agree with everything except Pantera. I think their logo is pretty cool. Very simple, also works well as stickers and on t-shirts. Pantera is also a great band name.
Megadeth is the best and I have a IPhone 14
16:31 wouldn’t this get you banned on twitch?
What was Pantera supposed to do? Keep the logo from the 80’s?