Finding this after the Netflix issue is so fascinating and i just love the reasoning behind every decision you took when making this. As an Egyptian I thank you for respecting history
I find this to be fascinating. I mean, Cleopatra was FOREIGN ruler. Egypt was subdued and occupied by outsiders. But you guys still defended her and regarded her as integral part of your history. I live in Indonesia and we aren't kind to foreigners who occupied Indonesia. Since we were kids, we were told that the Dutch was very evil and cruel. We were taught how the Dutch sucked out our resources, killed our national heroes with evil tricks, and stuff like that. We don't hate the modern Dutch but we really hate the historic Dutch. IF someone made history movie about Dutch occupying Indonesia and they made the Dutch BLACK, I think the Indonesians would NOT defend the Dutch. Yes it's our history but it's painful history.
@@FigureUnboxing Yes, of course, but what you don't understand is that, she was a different ruler who cared for Egyptians and Egyptian culture, and dedicated her life to that country, not like the rest of the rulers☦🇷🇺❤🇪🇬🇲🇨☪️
Egypt is sueing them now for changing their history. I do not understanding if there are actual factual things from the time period portraying a historical figure, people can still say it was a different way? The people that created the statues an coins actually saw the realm person and uses her likeness.
@@gusmacker919 I don't understand your comment. Are you saying that the Cleopatra that lived during the time of Julius Ceasar was mentioned in the bible? Because that is an absolute lie
I'm a Greek living in Greece all my life, and you made her look like someone I could've known. She looks super familiar to me, honestly maybe even too Greek lol. Myself, I have green eyes and light brown hair, and I'm happy you mentioned that not all of us have dark hair and eyes. Thank you for explaining the historical aspects as well, and not just show us the pictures.
Most Greeks have Brown hair, i.e. dark blond. We also have a lot of totally blonde people, but most of them are turning brown in early puberty, for unknown reasons. In Greece, we always had all possible colors in our hair, from ancient times till nowadays.
If she looked even remotely like what you deduced, I can totally see why men in power were willing to throw it all away for her. Your depictions of her are absolutely amazing...When the very first one showed, I was just like..."WOW!"
You're right. I've seen a stunning woman who was very sweet and down to earth but very shy of attention so held herself back but inadvertently drawing more men in towards her nc she came across as mysterious yet very sweet and smiled a lot, just very genuine I'm the moment. I saw her literally have every eye upon her in a room full of top class wealthy ppl and saw how they were all drawn to her. From many famous musicians and actors, businessmen to even ladies clamoring to be her friend and she was sweet with all but kept a polite distance too. She could have any man.she chose and ppl spoke of her beauty years after meeting her or seeing her. A lot of it was that she didn't quite know how beautiful she really was and if she did she was still very genuine. She didn't take compliments well bc she didn't believe them and thought they just wanted something. But my she was a sight to see. I did some modeling with her and unfortunately she left modeling when she was about to break huge on the scene. I say this nc she looked very much like this cleopatra and her hair was a mix of the brown with high lighted light around her face and I can swear she was 100% more mesmerizing and beautiful than Cleo in this. Yes. She truly could've had anyone but unfortunately met a tragic end. A true Greek tragedy if you will...thanks bc your comment reminded me of her and seeing Cleopatra in the brown and red brought goosebumps of the memories. A truly beautiful soul that was destroyed in the end... I maybwrite a book about her amazing life and world travels. I still.have many of her pictures and work.. thanks for reminding me ❤
@@NoahBodze-pm9ok she didn’t throw away her power lol. She gained more cuz she pulled the two of the most strongest men living on earth at that time. Her power as a 18 years old new queen was nothing in front of them. But she has her own aura which is indeed her power greater than those 2 men
to me as a Persian, she looks like an average Persian woman. Also I've seen many Egyptians with same features too so it shouldn't have been hard for netflix to choose someone who would represent her perfectly knowing that there are amazing Greek/Egyptian/Persian actresses out there to choose...WHY NETFLIX, WHY?
@@ZionistGundam meanwhile in reality, there are Egyptians who are really dark and some with same hair texture as myself today and all throughout Egypt's history. White people live in Africa today of course but not native to Africa or specifically Egypt
@@cjpp78ytube lol, what about North Africa? Berbere people have been there for a long time, and they aren't black. Africa is a continent with a lot of countries and different people, different colors, facial structures, different cultures, languages and religions. Africa is not "a big country with only black people". Sick of black Americans who don't even know their original countries and think Africa is just a big land with black shades.
The red-haired one looks more natural to me than the brown-haired version. Like it fits her facial features better. I loved the AI animation of her at the end. What an absolute treat to be able to actually SEE what these people may have looked like through the eyes of their contemporaries.
I disagree about her dark-haired versions looking less natural I've seen plenty of women that look very similar and even stunning, I did also prefer the redhead though.
Alexander and Cleopatra having reddish hair is no surprise, as it was/is a common Macedonian trait. I love your final reconstruction, especially the smile at the end!
basically Thracians were depicted with red hairs, but it should be normal to have mixed blood in those regions. macedonicans and thracians were neighbors
Women have been coloring their hair with henna for thousands of years, so Cleopatra could have colored her brunette locks red on occasions. I agree with many other viewers that her redheaded depictions are stunning.
It is quite common for people with mixed European and Asian ancestry to have dark hair in the winter months and for it to get bleached by sunlight in the summer months to a reddish brown.
@@threenorns3 My hair is dyed with henna and it's red as in her picture, it only looks darker indoors, but it's still overtly red, so it would be described as red, I think. And my natural color is darkest brown. Women also have ways to lighten hair before using henna - back then, even. Just a thought.
I would have loved to actually see what she actually looked like back then. Like take a literal time machine and go back to Ancient Egypt and watch her story play out in front of me like a movie. She’s beautiful in this depiction. Nice video. Thank you! She’s one of my favorite historical figures.
Cleopatra was indeed a strong, proud, dignified black woman, a Queen indeed, a fact which, because of the racisms, she covered up with white makeup. When Caesar found out, he cried out, "By God I've been humbugged!", ran into the Senate, and stabbed himself 23 times.
@@jgirlLVR I can confirm. I know this guy that had a cousin who knew a girl who's best friend had an uncle that once met Marcus Anthony and he confirmed it.
@jgirlLVR Cleopatra is a Greek name and it means Her father's pride. You AfroAmericans go out of your way to culturally appropriate European, and Egyptian culture as if black Africans dont have a culture of their own.
Spoke several languages is a massive understatement. According to Plutarch, she was fluent in more than 9 languages at a time when other Egyptian leaders could not even be bothered to learn Egyptian.
@@drdassler more like she spoke innumerous languages or a myriad of languages... several languages for me is something like 4 to 6 or 7, give or take. we are splitting hairs.
She probably was fluent in Greek and spoke some bits of a handful of different languages, and because she was noble and the Queen of Egypt, they made "was fluent in more than nine languages" out of it.
*Where did Cleopatra learn the Egyptian language ?* *Who taught Cleopatra the Egyptian language, given that no one in her paternal family had bothered to learn it after centuries of reign ?*
The transition from the sculpture to her face…. Literally gave me chills and tears in my eyes. It is crazy how much a human-likeness can evoke emotion out of us - and how much it means to empathize with history. thank you for doing this ❤️
I felt the same thing! I always have doubts about paintings and sculptures regarding their ancient accuracy to the image being portrayed. However I'm now leaning more towards the idea Cleopatra was genuinely recognized for her beauty as well as her judgment and ruling skills, at least for a time.
i got chills with her. she extended the Egyptian empire far beyond its expiration date. she was a brilliant mind...and one of the most famous women in history
It make a great deal of sense that Cleopatra was of greek and likely Persian descent. Timely considering the Netflix controversy. Fabulous presentation as always.
Controversy? There is no controversy. She is black now. End of discussion. Marc Antony was Asian, and Caesar was Arapaho. End of discussion. Get with the program.
All I know is when you showed the version with the red hair I got chills. Stunningly beautiful. Both are, but the red haired version would have been unique and would definitely left a lasting impression. Thank you!
Yes and back then women with red hair in that part of the world with dark hair as the majority red hair was thought of as so beautiful. I learned that from the journals of Mohamed favorite wife
She was known to use henna in her hair and henna has natural red tones to it whether the color is dark brown or not, red undertones are always present. So that would absolutely make sense ❤️ what a beauty!
@@myspates6 Back then in the Mediterranean people were much fairer than today. Red hair is even quite common in modern Greece - and our genes are mixed in with Persian, Turkish and Albanian.
I hate how netflix decided to make cleopatra in their new show, black. They really did not bother to get their facts straight. They really claim that she was black.
@@stephensharper4312Its truly an insult to Greek and African history. It implies that Africans dont have any real history and they have to be white to be valued and it just erases the fascinating true history of Cleopatra
my grandmommy told me she was black so she is black! LALALALALALALALALALA YOU CAN'T CHANGE MY MIND LALALALALALALALALALALALALA I NEVER DEVELOPED AN ADULT BRAIN LALALALALALALALALALA
I have seen a lot of reconstructions of Cleo as historians try to reconcile the written descriptions of her with the art that is available. I think yours was probably the best reconstruction I have seen. She feels beautiful and seductive while still resembling the bust.
For a woman of her time, that redheaded version would've been very captivating. The dark hair was probably wigs that she wore to look more Egyptian like. Your version is the closest thing to authentic that I have seen. Very impressive.
Curly hair picture looks *EXACTLY* like *Deanna* *Troi* from Star Trek! *ALSO* the actress Marina Sirtis is *Greek!* So she’s actually a very good example of what Cleopatra could look like!
You nailed it. Especially after watching season three of Picard, Deanna Troy fits exactly the description of Cleopatra. Her beauty was truly in her presence, not 100% in her looks.
It could be that both versions are correct. Wealthy women throughout the Antique world would often dye their hair in order to appear fashionable and flaunt their status (as the dyes were expensive and the process was quite laborious, so only someone with ample free time and spare resources could afford it). It is known that ancient Egyptians used henna as a hair dye, which produces a reddish-brown hue, so Cleopatra was no doubt familiar with it. Also, Roman artwork frequently depicts Venus with auburn hair. Given her personal association with Isis/Venus, Cleopatra might have intentionally dyed her hair during her stay in Rome to further the semblance with the goddess. The fact that Venus was considered the mythical ancestor of the Julii family might have been an additional factor, Cleopatra taking a deliberate effort to appear like Venus in order to further cement her relationship with Julius Caesar. Having a queen as a mistress who furthermore held a striking semblance to his mythical ancestor would have no doubt stroked Caesar's ego greatly, which Cleopatra no doubt would have used to her advantage.
Your reply was very interesting. Thank you for all those facts about Cleopatra and the hair dye. Of course, henna was very popular in Egypt (still is), and Cleo would have wanted herself to look more like Venus. Well written!
I mean, maybe. Cleopatra also came from a Macedonian royal line stretching back to Ptolemy I Soter, a minor aristocrat from Macedon in northern Greece, where the nobility and royalty constantly intermarried with Thracians and Illyrians in marriage alliances. The Thracians were consistently noted as redheads in both art and literature.
@@ericconnor8251 That's a good point. A lot of royals had red hair. I would think it would be difficult to dye your hair red if it is naturally dark, without bleaching it. I have medium brown hair and using red henna gives it a slight reddish hue, but from far away it just looks brown. Her frescoes were light brownish red, so likely her hair was light brown or red.
It's certainly more accurate than the Netflix depiction of her as a black African queen... I thank you for caring about history and not falsifying it for the sake of modern identity politics.
Giving her red or auburn hair just magnified her beauty x1000. Looking like that explains how she could withstand the test of time. I am in love with your talent! Excellent work on this one.
Of course, the Netflix historical revision wasn't designed to be accurate or entertaining. It was designed to push diversity and induce eye rolling, like all woke garbage.
Wow, there's more historical facts and more to learn about the real Cleopatra in this 9 minute video then the whole series on Netflix. The integrity you have finding the facts and bringing alive several possibilities is beyond commendable.
No she probably was beautiful as well. Probably no supermodel but probably pretty and that combined with charm can be a powerful mix especially when trying to influence men. A women of extreme beauty without the charm may struggle to shape the direction men are moving in but a women with a personality and charm can be extremely powerful.
Do you judge a flower’s beauty by its physical appearance or its intelligence, sophistication, and grace? A woman’s vagina in many cultures is compared to as a lotus flower.
Very much so, JFR. And this goes for both men and women, by the way. All of which are deplorably lacking in this day and age. Warmest Wishes. Be Well and Safe. Out.
@@bierlichen1 "fantastic artistry" in this context see adjectives: excellent, superb, remarkable, "artistry" in reference to technique, not subject matter.
@@butterflymoon6368 Yes, you are not wrong, but think of it this way: she was a woman of power, frequently on display, possessing charms, breeding and grooming in addition to whatever personality glimpses, real or cultivated, were 'slipping out' in addition to that pretty face. Thats a breeding ground for fantasy land crushes of people thinking they 'know her' or just plain lust, especially for someone not immediately impacted by the backlashes of her status. Celebrity crushes of all shapes and sizes are not that uncommon. Frankly I wouldn't be surprised.
She build a fake smile, with a static lower part of eyes...but not to bad. A little bit sad to work hard on a deep humanity history, and not studying a smile !
I've never heard her described as anything but intelligent. She was practically the only woman of that time that was allowed to be educated like a man. I've only ever seen her described and perhaps slightly above average in looks, but it was her intelligence that made her beautiful and captivating. The first female largely, that powerful men looked to as an equal. Don't make her a pitiable thing, I've never ever heard anyone ever say she was an airhead.
@@jaykarhunen6568 Well Jay, besides speaking several languages, she must have also been a very astute politician, having managed to enchant the two most powerful persons of that time, Caesar and Marc Anthony ! History would have turned out completely different had she not been around - or not been as intelligent as she must have been !
" Her intelligence was off the charts", even with all of the inbreeding in her own family line, what you said here is the main reason why she has a lasting legacy. It doesn't really actually matter what you look like when you captivate people's minds and hearts it truly stands the test of time.
So true. I know I find nothing more attractive than an intelligent woman I can talk science with. Adds +6 to their attractiveness for me... if not more.
Another famous tragic royal figure, Empress Elisabeth "Sisi" of Austria was also very smart, yet she had some real issues due to the inbreeding. One does not exclude the other. In fact, she spent a lot of time in her mansion on Corfu, called "Achilleon", developed a love for the Greek people, financed some essential infrastructure projects on the island hence is being held with very high regard up to this day. She also spoke the Greek language very well and did the first translations of some of the most important European classic literature into Greek herself.
As the daughter of a Greek mother, the eyes you gave Cleopatra are breathtaking AND represent Mediterranean eyes. It's usually their best physical feature. Many also have a high degree of intelligence as well.
The eye-colour is surely wrong. The macedonians were pure indoeuropeans like Alexander himself. We find also explanations about the process of racemixing in Aristotles "politics". But at the time of Alexander the macedonians self were in every case a absolute pure tribe. What you called "Mediterranean eyes" are the eyes of mixed persons and such creatures were like the late sumerians, egyptians and so forth mostly the result of race-mixing with coloured slaves, in Egypt for instance with nubian slaves.
@@reneguenon7824 Cleopatra was a Ptolemy, a Greek. She was the only one who spoke Egyptian as well which is why many mistake her as Egyptian. I'm Mediterranean and have the colouring.
@@chiaralistica The Ptolemies were Macedonians and kept their blood clean from foreign influences. Thats why I guess that she owned macedonian features. Mediterranean mean nothing. In ancient times all greek nations, starting with the Dorians were indoeuropeans with the look like the pure vedic and iranian people. Thats why many greek gods showing the "nordic look", pale skin, blonde hair, blue or grey eyes. And thats also the case with the most greek heros like Achilles or Odysseus or the Kings and Rulers of Sparta.
It is very common for women in the Mediterranean to use henna to make their hair red. So whether Cleopatra was a natural redhead or not, she probably used henna.
Native Egyptians certainly used henna to that effect, but the Greeks had a variety of hair colors. Like most other Europeans, dark brown and light brown hair were majority phenotypes, but a minority did have blonde and red hair. Macedon in northern Greece was also right next to Thrace. Thracians were noted as redheads in art & literature.
@@dinil5566 Yeah, and we're talking about a Greek woman, Cleopatra VII, whose ancestors came from northern Greece close to Thrace, a land filled with Thracians who were universally depicted in art and literature as a bunch of redheads. Even art from Macedon like mosaics depict various people with red hair and for that matter the name "Pyrrhus" (like the famous Pyrrhus of Epirus) means "flame haired" in Greek. To this day there are a minority of light haired people in mainland Greece, mostly in the the north, far less so in the south and almost none in Aegean islands like Crete (although some Cretans are blondish brunets).
As an Egyptian, I won't say which one I believe is closer. Of course everyone will favour the version closest to theirs , but I applaud that you made ACTUAL RESEARCH AND EFFORT to reach that conclusion, unlike some people you tried to reach the truth and not apply some agenda to gain sympathies Despite everything, makes me happy that there's still ppl around the world who can't tolerate history and facts being tampered with
I agree with you 100% my friend. I find the "Documentary" from that nutty Jada Pinkett Smith nauseating. She made that self serving mess with only that poor old lady claiming that "her grandmother told her that no matter what anyone tells you, Cleopatra was black" Now who can question a reputable "historian" such as her ? 😂
According to the genetic data we have from people living alone the Mediterranean Sea around 2000 years ago more than 99% was what is called genetic white skin color, which means it you where working most of the day in the sun in Egypt you would have light brown skin, but it you where a very wealthy person like Cleopatra you would be unlikely to spend long hours in the sun every day and probably be white pale skinned. Similar to what I have seen the president of Egypts sister looks like skin tone. There are several Egyptians living in Denmark and most of them get as pale skin as ethnic danish people in the 6 months of the year where the sun is so weak that UV light doesn’t effect the skin color, unlike Egypt where the sun is strong enough all year 🌞 genetically white means that it can become light brown when exposed to long periods of UV light.
According to the genetic data we have from people living alone the Mediterranean Sea around 2000 years ago more than 99% was what is called genetic white skin color, which means it you where working most of the day in the sun in Egypt you would have light brown skin, but it you where a very wealthy person like Cleopatra you would be unlikely to spend long hours in the sun every day and probably be white pale skinned. Similar to what I have seen the president of Egypts sister looks like skin tone. There are several Egyptians living in Denmark and most of them get as pale skin as ethnic danish people in the 6 months of the year where the sun is so weak that UV light doesn’t effect the skin color, unlike Egypt where the sun is strong enough all year 🌞 genetically white means that it can become light brown when exposed to long periods of UV light.
The brunnette version is quite good, but the red-haired version is stunning. I think she might have been like a friend of mine who is pretty, but you never get a sense of how attractive she is in a still image. But once she is animated in video or person, it's just wow! I think you captured some of that in the second recreation. Love your work.
@@daquieshakeaundra2854 Not sure I follow you, She was of Greek ancestry and Egyptian royalty. We know who her parents were, we know where they came from. Are you saying she was Nubian? BLACK DECENT isn't a phrase I know. I would like to she an interpretation of her as a Nubian Woman.
@@alyonix1 Lol I know. She was from the Ptolemaic dynasty as Ptolemy was one of Alexander the Great’s generals to who he gave the governance of Egypt. There are dozens of efígies of Cleopatra and she certainly was not Sub Saharan black. African Americans seem to want to play fast and loose with history and make themselves and their ancestors into some kind of super race instead of the tribal savages they were. Bet you many of them think Wakanda is actually a real country, lol!!
I know someone who looks just like the red headed version and she is from Oman. Greek, arab mix. She walks into a room and everyone is just blown away. She also has the most amazing effect on people. Everyone is left smiling.
@@johnc.8461 You don't want to marry her because the queue to be in her bed would be a mile long ! 😂 I have always wondered why guys want to marry the most beautiful women . Me : I would just do them when given opportunity but marry a plain jane home maker
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Seeing as how Hollywood keep erasing and replacing red heads with black people. It's funny to see Cleopatra could also be red head, and now they try to erase and replace her as well.
Henna is a dye derived from the leaves of the primordial henna plant that grows in warm climates. While there is some conjecture regarding when it first came into popular use, the recorded history of henna points to ancient Egypt.
They dyed hair back then. 'Red hair greek' theory is absurd. You people want to believe there was this mysterious race that no longer exists when, in fact, modern people are a mirror to all the conquerors and original inhabitants that once existed. Red hair is almost nonexistent in modern Greece, if only by Western European migration. The Romans described the Celts, distinguishing their unique red hair. If that was commonplace in Greece, which was closer to the near east and interacted and mixed with the eastern civilizations, then it would be commonplace in Rome, which was more western.
In other words her personality was what drew people around her not so much what she looked like. The opposite of what we view as beautiful in today's world. Looks!
Obviously looks can be very magnetic. But even the people today who are celebrated for their physical beauty, also have a way to carry themselves that is out of the ordinary. But she would probably still be viewed as a physical beauty. As a queen, she would have presented herself in a, well, regal way, and have access to extensive beauty rituals to keep her looking her best. She would also not be subject to malnourishment and illness, which ensured that she would develop into the most attractive version of herself she could be. She would also have grown up with constant positive reinforcement, which would improve confidence and self-esteem, and that is something that is very noticable in a person. You see that in modern day upper class people as well - they do not have the same doubt about themselves. She would also be held to high expectations, and have teachers to help her achieve those expectations. Both socially, in ettiquette, skills, beauty, intelligence, diplomacy, etc. In combination, these factors would boost each other, and increase both her confidence, self esteem and charisma. Not to say that royals didn't also meet greater challenges and higher pressure than most people - but their baseline was 'higher', so in everyday social situations, this would greatly influence peoples first impression and the genreral impression of them. So even if there would maybe be more physically beautiful women, she would definitely still be considered very physically beautiful, as well as very magnetic. It was more because she also had a way of conducting herself that drew people even closer.
whoa hold them horses ... back then ..(still and always)... big thick woman were the sign of complete beauty. All during the ages women, have tried every dangerous procedures to fit into the times. Beauty was always implied.
I think Netflix did you a huge favor haha, I believe lots of people have now researched and found this video. Well-deserved. I was lucky enough to see it BEFORE the whole Netflix issue. Thanks for using historical data to bring these ancient heroes to life!
it's fairly basic historic knowlegde that Cleopatra was of Greek Decent and looked so. I don't think this video is that enlightening for most people. it's interesting, but it's not a revelation. Every adult with at least a vague interest in history knows this stuff.
@@Jaymes400 and yet Netflix releases a worldwide documentary portraying a black queen... I, just like many others, knew she was of Greek decent (and thus not ethnically black) but nobody really knows what she actually looked like (yes, we have coins, that famous Berlin bust and paintings but they all show different face features) so what this channel does by giving 3D colorful interpretations is quite impressive.
Red haired Cleopatra is....wow. If she looked anything like this I understand Marc Antony's immediate emotional response incredibly well. Beautiful work, truly.
@@tabbymrp yeah people keep falling for her for sure. But historically I don't understand the hype, just kinda seems like all you had to do was be roman.
@@grizzlyblackpowder1960 To bed Cleopatra you had to be *the* most powerful Roman. And willing to give her heirs i guess! Caesar gave her a son and Antony gave her at least 3 little brats.
One of the things that I like about Cleopatra's story, is that she was considered breath taking and beautiful, even though she didn't look perfect. I wish we could be less perfectionistic nowadays and see the beauty and charm in people, without constantly feeling pressured to look like only one specific way.
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Cleopatra VII IS gorgeous, but its important to remember that she is highly intelligent, highly ambitious and determined. Her beauty and grace are extra bonuses
we do my friend... we do... nearly none of us men loves perfection... we are searching for some trademarks like freckles, non-symetric face, bigger eye brows or thin, a little scar that looks cute, beauty-marks (tell called beauty marks because normaly u would say: a black point on your face isnt nice but it was because its something different and only few woman had those), etc etc etc. most men and woman dont search for perfection.
I like how the running joke in Asterix & Obelix was showing her having a big nose and always have men infatuated with it. This isn't about imperfections but about ridiculous standards of beauty that kinda try to tell Middle Eastern women to get rhinoplasty to look whiter as that is supposed to be more attractive.
Actually, we know now that many Greek and Roman statues were painted, and to find out Cleopatra's skin, hair, and eye color, it might be possible to do spectrographic and other techniques to find out what pigments were used and in what tones and shading used on her statues.
@@stsk1061 Alexander The Great had rosy blonde hair. Ptolemy I had brown-red hair, a bit like myself. So the odds of Cleopatra having had dark red/brown hair seems very likely, especially since her colorized illustrations show her with deeply dark red hair, not light red.
@@TheStraightestWhitest Two of Cleopatra's ancestors are described as being blond, but that was 200 years before her time. The evidence seems to suggest that she had dark brown hair but very fair skin.
Did you watch the video? She says in this video that her father’s side was Greek… BUT no one knows definitively who her mother or grand mother were.. AND that one of her ancestors on father’s side is known to have a native Egyptian concubine.. so it IS entirely possible she does have native Egyptian ancestry… she just claims that the chances are low.. BUT she WAS certainly a woman of color given confirmed Persian and Syrian ancestry.. again.. did you actually watch the video??
@@forbidden-cyrillic-handle but yeah.. would have been interesting to see a darker skinned version in addition to the olive skinned one.. we can say definitively that straight haired one is just wrong.. I have not seen even one statue or painting of her with straight hair so we can likely throw that one out!
@@drapetomaniack Did you? Have you seen the profiles on the coins, the statues depiction...? That is pretty close to caucasian. Pretty Greek looking... even if some genes got mixed into the pot, she still looks Greek on those coins.
@@mtljmbTUBE c'mon man... those coins are pretty rough back then.. If she went by the coins the renderings would have looked like the wicked witch of the west.. look at that nose 😂 the coins are too rough to tell you ANYTHING!
@@forbidden-cyrillic-handle This is youTube so I won't hold my breath for an apology.. but think it's pretty clear to everyone that everything I said is in the video.. is in the video 😎
I basically have very close to similar features to her. Thanks for calling me average, but hey society only considers what's trending now and they all look the same. All best.
I ll never understand why ppl confuse sexuality with beauty. U dont have to be a model to be charming etc . But still , u can be top . Perhaps ,fem sexuality is more important than extreme beauty. Add brain and her intellectual skills so u have it
When I saw the red headed version it literally took my breath away. Even if her hair was colored with henna I could completely see how she could be captivating. I think your art was lead by God to reveal history. Beautiful.
@@greyLeicester take a chill pill mate.. Why you are rude to her? She said something nice in her own sweet way, why it has to be about how you feel or what you think? There are other people in this world besides you, you don’t occupy alone this planet.
Because this whole channel is about taking artifacts and then painting them into better looking people than depicted, with modern hair and cosmetic effects. It’s a thinly veiled con.
Nahhh with short hair she's any girl of the subway. Cleopatra had LONG hair without a doubt. She was beautiful and feminine (not masculine, not feminist) when a woman gets her hair cut short, the only ones who compliment her are other women. men just stay respectfully quiet... (thinking how she lost 1/2 of her beauty)
@@Hajde_budalla I don't know... if you're gonna wear a wig, you better choose a long haired wig... to wear a short haired wig it's absolutely pointless. Short hair is not "cool" it's not beautiful, it's not anything. the first 2 Cleopatras here looks thousand times better than the last one.
I like the red-headed version better. If your reconstruction is anywhere near accurate, she was a beauty. If she had the personality to go with it, it's no wonder she became such a remembered part of history.
I'm really glad someone finally showed the redhead hypothesis, given we know redhead genes were not only an occurrence in Greeks but also common in Persia and amongst Thracians (two groups the Macedonian Greeks came in early contact with and eventually conquered) it's regularly shocking to me that more people have never heard this hypothesis let alone understand how logical it is.
Thracians were said by the Greeks to be the most numerous people in the world, after the Indians. (Also said nobody on Earth could hope to fight against them if they actually organized). Very fair skin, red hair, blue eyed Indo-Europeans. Im pretty sure they are a large reason for the red haired genes and the typically Indo European haplogroups scattered all throughout these regions.
If modern day Greeks and Slavs are at least somewhat representative, then I can believe that. Red hair isn't super common but definitely not unheard of.
@@vessela7484 - here's a conundrum ... my great-grandfather came to America when he was 16, from Sicily. He had hazel green eyes, and auburn hair. From Sicily. That's right IN the Med, so who knows where his genes came from. My great-grandmother was more explainable. From Ancona Italy - blond haired and blue eyed. My great-grandfather from Limerick Ireland had jet black hair and deep blue eyes. SOOOO many questions 😆
@@vessela7484 - that's my point, too. I love that most of my family, on both sides, don't fit typical looks. My great grandmother from Italy - Ancona is way up north, on the Adriatic. So, to me, it's no surprise she was blond and blue. But a red-headed, green eyed Sicilian gives one pause 😆 I love this stuff!
The Ptolomies were so insular, greek-obsessed and removed from the Egyptians, one of the remarkable and mentioned thing about Cleopatra was that she was only one of that dynasty to have ever bothered to learn Egyptian. None of her predecessors had done so. It wasnt even spoken in court. Crazy ppl. As for her beauty, the historians back then do mention some times she was not physically blindingly beautiful but that is was the sharpness of her mind and intellect and this insane charisma that made her impossibly magnetic and made people go gaga over her. She must have been such an amazing woman.
I could see someone with that look capturing the eye of the two most powerful Romans of their time, and her intelligence and social grace keeping them captured.
I am Greek and appreciate the authenticity here. You did your research clearly. Using coins as one example of her appearance is clever, but so is eyewitness testimony. Roman sculptures were reminiscent of Greek ones, so it stands to reason they would want to capture Cleopatra in all her likenesses.
The red hair version is breathtaking! The dark hair version is beautiful, too. (As someone else stated, women died their hair with henna). The red hair version is just stunning! Great work
She was Greek, so it could be true having red hair, most likely more dark. Alexandros himself was described as having hair that shined as fire under the sun in Greek texts, usually hair appears lighter under the sun as it reflects the highlights. There were tombs in Athens found from that time having the red hair gene.
I love that you mentioned the accounts that mentioned her beauty. So many people quote Pascal about her nose and assume she was a troll. I find it highly unlikely she wasn’t beautiful, maybe not the most beautiful woman on earth, but she had to have a looks as well as a brain. She’s my favorite historical figure and anyone who agrees should read “Memoirs of Cleopatra” by Margaret George.
I like your work. You obviously do a lot of research but are not afraid to make educated guesses, too. It is fun to watch the past come to life. Thank you.
It's very appealing seeing the history in colors and putting images to unknown. If history is taught like this, i am sure ppl love to read. Your facial reconstruction work is astounding and very detailed.
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@@UrielsJunkDrawer king Tut and Charles of Spain were also example of generations of inbreeding, both have lot and lot of deformities, whole body including face. King Charles ancestors were marrying cousins but in the case of egypt they were marrying sisters and brothers, father daughter, half sister. So if king tut and Charles have a lot of issues and far from being beautiful, doubt Cleopatra was beautiful, also the coins with her face look like a witch, with long nose etc. You can read everything about all these people on internet.
I think the depictions you've made really capture the descriptions of her not being a "perfect beauty", but also being captivatingly beautiful in her own way. She did seem to have a very good understanding of the chemistry of beauty (or, at least, someone in her entourage did). If henna and/or lemon juice was available at that time, there's every chance that she was originally dark haired but lightened her hair using products like this. Might explain the different hair colours shown and recorded. You may have heard that she "bathed in milk and honey". In modern day beauty products, we would call that things like: lactic acid, alpha-hydroxy acid, antibacterial, anti-aging, anti-inflammatory, healing and moisturising properties... She may not have been the prettiest girl on the planet, but, wow. What a woman!
Now wait just one minute. Jada and Netflix know what they are talking about. They even hired a historian that tells us that when she was a little girl, her mom said to her, "no matter what anyone tells you, Cleopatra was Black" Her MOM said it so what's more definitive than that? C'mon, facts, right? I'm Asian and waiting with bated breath for when Jada and Netflix show strong African queens from China.
👋🏿Hey. Pretty wacky, right? I only came to this video to see how accurate the information is. Apparently it's simply white pride. Great premise but more attention to the facts should be paid. Thanks for the honesty, it was powerful. You can tell by the low amount of likes (YES!🤸🏿♂️), nowadays it means you're likely correct😂
@@mlk.ali_X So "white pride" equates to trying to be as historically accurate with the most reputable information known/gleaned? And what's wrong with literally anyone having pride in their ancestors and where they came from as long as they don't use it to put themselves on a pedestal above others/other races? Boy, you're wacky. *Extreme* Afrocentrism is a very special form of delusion.
Thank you for your beautiful educational look at history! Being Greek, my mother had brunette hair, my father was blonde, my brother has dark brunette, my sister has red brown hair and I am blonde. Throughout my childhood, it was my sister's beautiful red hair that drew attention to our family. In addition, when my sister was a teen, she looked similar to your red haired Cleopatra ❤️
She looks very Persian to me. I'm in Toronto and we have a huge Persian community here and this gave is so familiar. You could walk in a shopping mall and find 10 girls who look like this
Excellent research on Cleopatra. So well done and thorough. She was an amazing woman and your reconstructed appearance of her shows a truly stunning and appealing person. It's no wonder the Roman Ceasars were captivated by her. Thank you for this video.
This red haired version looks a lot like the one from HBO Rome series. Which was known for doing their homework in many details. This means that this reconstruction is on the right path. Very good!
@@fromtheheavenlyrealms8613Egyptian art wasn't nessassarily about detail according to this video, it was more religious and metaphorical it seems. That makes sense due to the religious nature of the position of Pharoah and how she was associated with the goddess Isis.
@@wingedhussarswiss4703 Dude...the painters drew what they saw just as all painters did. All of Roman pictures are white people. All of Asia's pictures are Asian people. How come you don't have a theory on those, or on any other pics or paintings in the earth? I guess only the black paintings have a back story that suggest they weren't really black. Please record yourself talking and then listen to it over and over until you hear how foolish you sound.
Your first depiction of her with wavy dark hair, she looked remarkably like Deanna Troi from Star Trek next Gen (sorry my nerd’s hanging out!) . But the redheaded version is stunning.
That’s *EXACTLY* what I was going to say!!! Almost a spitting image of Troi! ALSO Marina Sirtis is *Greek!* So she’s actually a very good example of what Cleopatra could look like!
Agreed with what everybody said above. She does look like Deanna Troi and she is very pretty. Why did the ancient Romans say that she was average looking ? They're blind. It must be that they hated her for being an Egyptian queen who married their leader, Caesar.
What sorcery is this!? When the portrait animated and smiled I kind of teared up a little. Reminded me of Ofra Haza. Such amazing work you put into this!
When I learned of her in elementary school I felt a very strong affinity with Cleopatra. your reimagining just rekindled that feeling, thank you so much for the opportunity to look into her eyes and to truly see her. She was stunning & intelligent. This truly feels like an honor to be apart of ❤
I'm inclined toward her being a ginger and any dark haired version can be attributed to the head-piece they'd wear. Otherwise, I had no idea there were so many images of her. BTW, I love your videos! Bringing these people to life is so satisfying and makes them live for us!
Such an important woman, known around the Roman world for seducing the most powerful men ever, yet also being known for wit, sensuality, and intelligence OBVIOUSLY had many many paintings of her. We see in text references of huge statues that were unfortunately lost to time, but many remain! Including a full bust.
@@znail4675 The red could've been due to henna. Or not, maybe just her natural hair, which according to texts was common in Macedonia. Alexander the Great himself had a hair color described as bronze/copper. Henna is a dye used since Ancient Egypt that gives a different color depending on your natural hair color. If she had light brown hair she would've looked a bit like a redhead. If black hair it would look barely different, something like maroon brown. I bet she was naturally light brown hair, maybe red undertones, and looked like an Irish redhead if she ever used henna. Natural red hair is possible, but not that light orange of ireland, but more Mediterranean red (lemme think of an example and ill edit the post). Edit: i got an example. this video lmao. the red hair version of the video is what i was thinking Lol this quickly turned to speculation. In any case I can only say with certainty her hair could not have been black.
Yes I agree, who knows what she really looked like but by the sculptures of her and her images on the coins...I d say it's a solid guess, bravo, great great work. You are very talented!
I never knew Cleopatra had some Persian in her, that’s awesome AF! I guess that makes sense, given our close interactions (and constant warring) with the Greeks. Thanks for your awesome art, and for not butchering the history! As a Persian who majored in European History with an emphasis on antiquity, I give you an A! Had you made her nose a bit pointier, you would have gotten an A+ ☺️
@@Rondo2ooo I totally agree. I’ve known fellow Persians who look Greek and vice versa, and you figure that after thousands of years, there had to have been some mingling between our peoples eventually! 🤷🏽♀️
The auburn-haired depiction is breathtaking. It looks more believable than her having jet-black hair considering how she is a multi-ethnic person with West Asian and Southeastern European ancestry. It's not impossible to envision her with auburn hair because that hair color also appears in many Asian countries, particularly around regions of West Asia like modern-day Iran through Central Asia, near Pakistan.
It is only hard to believe when you do not understand the make up of the world in that era. North Africa in that period was not the Middle East nor was it populated by central Africans. The Moorish Empire spread in the 8th century so people of that ethnic group only started to dominated post 8th century. The Greeks and Romans of that period did have fair complexion so red hair and pale skin would have been normal. The whole theory of cleopatra having African heritage is just a myth. Most people are also confused about the ancient egyptians and assume they are somehow ethnically connect to the current ethnic make up of modern North Africa.
So fascinating. I always thought she had dark hair but I'm not so sure now. Your reconstructions of both in dark and red hair are beautiful and either one could be her.
Well, Helen of Troy gets a lot of clicks, but alas really no visual clues about her (Bronze Age too murky) - just the mythology/legendary-quasi-history
@@Ash01010 Dear White Fang, the fact that no one remembers her does not mean she was not the most influential. She was the Jewish wife of Pharaoh Akhenaten and mother to Tutankhamun. Thanks to her, Egypt became monotheistic. Amen became the word for God at the end of each prayer (Amen Ra aka Amun Ra). This is a very hot topic in archeology right now. No Christianity, no Western World.
She was into anything I found out when I researched her while I was in college, she knew how to work the room. She was very 'flexible' to new ideas, she used what she had to the maximum. A woman's beauty can be mesmerizing in many ways.
That’s what I read too. She was just fascinated by everything so she was able to talk to anyone about really anything, which is considered “charming.” I think she also had very high social intelligence because of this I think and was able to “work the crowd” since she never alienated herself to one group, and was aware of social manipulation (which is not necessarily a bad thing. I think we would call them as social hacks now a days, i.e. maintaining eye contact and commanding presence in the room)
@@kandrpy3161 I see a lot of parallels between Cleopatra and the equally ill fated famous Austrian empress Elisabeth. Both had a reputation for being very beautiful, both were very smart, good at politics but subject to problems caused by centuries of inbreeding and they both gained popularity by caring to learn languages - Egyptian in Cleopatras case, allegedly the first Ptolemaic sovereign to do so and Elisabeth ironically with Greek when she resided on Corfu. And both are shining romanticized historic figures with a cult following.
I love the red-haired version of her but the dark hair is stunning as well! Thank you so much for the work you have put into making these historic people come to life! I have been fascinated with all the examples!
I think the red headed one is brilliant.. and more likely. She's absolutely breath taking. Thank you for bringing her back to life for us. You did an amazing job.
There were two surprising things to me when I first read about her: 1. More than one Egyptian queen was named Cleopatra as was Alexander the Great's sister. 2. The famous Cleapatra, that we are remembering with this, was not Egyptian per se, but Macedonian/Greek, being the relative of two of Alexander the Great's generals, Ptolemy and Seleucus. Who knew? In the stories, Julius Caesar and Marc Antony are pretty much the well-known.
Ancient writers said Thracians had red hair and and worshipped a read headed god. Thrace was next door to Macedon, so the redhead cleopatra makes sense, plus even the Roman sculpture appears to have auburn paint that has faded, and the pompey frescos leave no doubt.
Finding this after the Netflix issue is so fascinating and i just love the reasoning behind every decision you took when making this. As an Egyptian I thank you for respecting history
I find this to be fascinating. I mean, Cleopatra was FOREIGN ruler. Egypt was subdued and occupied by outsiders. But you guys still defended her and regarded her as integral part of your history. I live in Indonesia and we aren't kind to foreigners who occupied Indonesia. Since we were kids, we were told that the Dutch was very evil and cruel. We were taught how the Dutch sucked out our resources, killed our national heroes with evil tricks, and stuff like that. We don't hate the modern Dutch but we really hate the historic Dutch. IF someone made history movie about Dutch occupying Indonesia and they made the Dutch BLACK, I think the Indonesians would NOT defend the Dutch. Yes it's our history but it's painful history.
I don’t care what scholars or historians say, my grandma told me that Cleopatra was black.
@@rovin9547 hahahahah
No grandmother testimony here😂
@@FigureUnboxing Yes, of course, but what you don't understand is that, she was a different ruler who cared for Egyptians and Egyptian culture, and dedicated her life to that country, not like the rest of the rulers☦🇷🇺❤🇪🇬🇲🇨☪️
So this was clearly ignored by Netflix.
I can’t wait till Netflix make the Hitler documentary with him being black😤
That’s on brand for Netflix
Netflix is a radical leftist streaming service that doesnt care about factual truth or any kinda evidence. Its pure emotional propaganda.
Egypt is sueing them now for changing their history. I do not understanding if there are actual factual things from the time period portraying a historical figure, people can still say it was a different way?
The people that created the statues an coins actually saw the realm person and uses her likeness.
@@gusmacker919 I don't understand your comment. Are you saying that the Cleopatra that lived during the time of Julius Ceasar was mentioned in the bible? Because that is an absolute lie
I'm a Greek living in Greece all my life, and you made her look like someone I could've known. She looks super familiar to me, honestly maybe even too Greek lol. Myself, I have green eyes and light brown hair, and I'm happy you mentioned that not all of us have dark hair and eyes. Thank you for explaining the historical aspects as well, and not just show us the pictures.
Greeks are dark, she looked Macedonian.
@@gocestojanovski3723from the greek region of macedonia right? ;-)
All Greeks have black olive eyers, she is Macedonian
@@evilassjitnem Same, Republic of Macedonia or on your side
Most Greeks have Brown hair, i.e. dark blond. We also have a lot of totally blonde people, but most of them are turning brown in early puberty, for unknown reasons. In Greece, we always had all possible colors in our hair, from ancient times till nowadays.
If she looked even remotely like what you deduced, I can totally see why men in power were willing to throw it all away for her. Your depictions of her are absolutely amazing...When the very first one showed, I was just like..."WOW!"
You're right. I've seen a stunning woman who was very sweet and down to earth but very shy of attention so held herself back but inadvertently drawing more men in towards her nc she came across as mysterious yet very sweet and smiled a lot, just very genuine I'm the moment. I saw her literally have every eye upon her in a room full of top class wealthy ppl and saw how they were all drawn to her. From many famous musicians and actors, businessmen to even ladies clamoring to be her friend and she was sweet with all but kept a polite distance too. She could have any man.she chose and ppl spoke of her beauty years after meeting her or seeing her. A lot of it was that she didn't quite know how beautiful she really was and if she did she was still very genuine. She didn't take compliments well bc she didn't believe them and thought they just wanted something. But my she was a sight to see. I did some modeling with her and unfortunately she left modeling when she was about to break huge on the scene. I say this nc she looked very much like this cleopatra and her hair was a mix of the brown with high lighted light around her face and I can swear she was 100% more mesmerizing and beautiful than Cleo in this. Yes. She truly could've had anyone but unfortunately met a tragic end. A true Greek tragedy if you will...thanks bc your comment reminded me of her and seeing Cleopatra in the brown and red brought goosebumps of the memories. A truly beautiful soul that was destroyed in the end... I maybwrite a book about her amazing life and world travels. I still.have many of her pictures and work.. thanks for reminding me ❤
She was a woman in power, too, so the “throwing away” could have been what she was doing, not the men.
Like a socialite today, possibly.
@@NoahBodze-pm9ok
So she didn't look like the lady on Jada Pinket's documentary ? ( sarcasm)
@@NoahBodze-pm9ok she didn’t throw away her power lol. She gained more cuz she pulled the two of the most strongest men living on earth at that time. Her power as a 18 years old new queen was nothing in front of them. But she has her own aura which is indeed her power greater than those 2 men
But... someone's grandma told them that Cleopatra was black and it didn't matter what anyone told them. This is so confusing.
LMAOOO 🤣
omg 😁😁😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
I am dying of laughter.....ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Well heck, maybe we're all Black and just don't know it yet!
to me as a Persian, she looks like an average Persian woman. Also I've seen many Egyptians with same features too so it shouldn't have been hard for netflix to choose someone who would represent her perfectly knowing that there are amazing Greek/Egyptian/Persian actresses out there to choose...WHY NETFLIX, WHY?
Yeah my grandpa is Egyptian and he’s really white. America thinks that all africans look the same. While there are brown and white africans
Jada pinket smith made the Netflix film (produced or w/e) and she stated she wanted cleopatra to be a strong black woman. So that’s what she did.
@@ZionistGundam meanwhile in reality, there are Egyptians who are really dark and some with same hair texture as myself today and all throughout Egypt's history. White people live in Africa today of course but not native to Africa or specifically Egypt
@@cjpp78ytube lol, what about North Africa? Berbere people have been there for a long time, and they aren't black.
Africa is a continent with a lot of countries and different people, different colors, facial structures, different cultures, languages and religions.
Africa is not "a big country with only black people".
Sick of black Americans who don't even know their original countries and think Africa is just a big land with black shades.
because the women who made this documentary aren't Greek/Egyptian/Persian
A 9 minute video that tells more about Cleopatra than a whole Netflix series' reimagining of Cleopatra's life
What's worse is that it's called a documentary.
Buuuuut she blak tho???
@@datadavis can't tell if joke or not. Things go right over my head by text. *Woosh
@@swagmuffin9000 Its a joke, i dont speak ebonics, lol
@@datadavis lol no worries
The red-haired one looks more natural to me than the brown-haired version. Like it fits her facial features better. I loved the AI animation of her at the end. What an absolute treat to be able to actually SEE what these people may have looked like through the eyes of their contemporaries.
I disagree about her dark-haired versions looking less natural I've seen plenty of women that look very similar and even stunning, I did also prefer the redhead though.
idk as a greek both look natural to me lmao
Maybe it's something in-between?
all her ancestors were from northern Greece. No reason to skip portraying her as possibly blonde.
@@teo2975 yes but her mother has egyptian rutes so she is more of a brown skinned women with blackish brownish hair but possibly black.
The red-haired version is the most captivating.
same. Considerably more alluring than just standard dark hair.
Totally agree she looked stunning
Can certainly see the attraction.
The one at 4:00 mark is the image made closest to her being alive.
The red headed one is the keeper. :)
Alexander and Cleopatra having reddish hair is no surprise, as it was/is a common Macedonian trait. I love your final reconstruction, especially the smile at the end!
Greek Macedonians
her face is on a coin she looked noting like this
It wouldn't surprise me.....I mean Ramses II has reddish hair on his own mummy which is insane.
basically Thracians were depicted with red hairs, but it should be normal to have mixed blood in those regions. macedonicans and thracians were neighbors
Also, red hair was seen as barbarian hair to many ancient Greeks too :P I mean earlier classical age
Women have been coloring their hair with henna for thousands of years, so Cleopatra could have colored her brunette locks red on occasions. I agree with many other viewers that her redheaded depictions are stunning.
henna on black hair doesn't show up as bright red unless it's covering greys, which shine up like new-minted copper wire.
Or maybe her hair was red/auburn it’s quite common in that part of the world. More than you might think. I have been there and seen it for myself
It is quite common for people with mixed European and Asian ancestry to have dark hair in the winter months and for it to get bleached by sunlight in the summer months to a reddish brown.
It could have also been a wig.
@@threenorns3 My hair is dyed with henna and it's red as in her picture, it only looks darker indoors, but it's still overtly red, so it would be described as red, I think. And my natural color is darkest brown. Women also have ways to lighten hair before using henna - back then, even. Just a thought.
I would have loved to actually see what she actually looked like back then. Like take a literal time machine and go back to Ancient Egypt and watch her story play out in front of me like a movie. She’s beautiful in this depiction. Nice video. Thank you! She’s one of my favorite historical figures.
You'd not be allowed anywhere near her. And you certainly wouldn't want to be around her at the end.
@@conservovirtus5796 cleopatra had public ceremonies, and people were for certain allowed to go on them.
@@pendragonsxskywalkers9518 true, but be like meeing a president or famous singer, guards preventing you from getting to close
Can you please give this info to Jada Pinkett Smith; who have turned Cleopatra black.
Classic Amercian stupidity and arrogance
Cleopatra was indeed a strong, proud, dignified black woman, a Queen indeed, a fact which, because of the racisms, she covered up with white makeup. When Caesar found out, he cried out, "By God I've been humbugged!", ran into the Senate, and stabbed himself 23 times.
@@jgirlLVR I can confirm. I know this guy that had a cousin who knew a girl who's best friend had an uncle that once met Marcus Anthony and he confirmed it.
Why!?
@jgirlLVR Cleopatra is a Greek name and it means Her father's pride. You AfroAmericans go out of your way to culturally appropriate European, and Egyptian culture as if black Africans dont have a culture of their own.
Spoke several languages is a massive understatement. According to Plutarch, she was fluent in more than 9 languages at a time when other Egyptian leaders could not even be bothered to learn Egyptian.
So, she spoke several languages.
@@drdassler lmao
@@drdassler more like she spoke innumerous languages or a myriad of languages... several languages for me is something like 4 to 6 or 7, give or take. we are splitting hairs.
She probably was fluent in Greek and spoke some bits of a handful of different languages, and because she was noble and the Queen of Egypt, they made "was fluent in more than nine languages" out of it.
*Where did Cleopatra learn the Egyptian language ?*
*Who taught Cleopatra the Egyptian language, given that no one in her paternal family had bothered to learn it after centuries of reign ?*
The transition from the sculpture to her face…. Literally gave me chills and tears in my eyes. It is crazy how much a human-likeness can evoke emotion out of us - and how much it means to empathize with history. thank you for doing this ❤️
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it
I felt the same thing!
I always have doubts about paintings and sculptures regarding their ancient accuracy to the image being portrayed.
However I'm now leaning more towards the idea Cleopatra was genuinely recognized for her beauty as well as her judgment and ruling skills, at least for a time.
And all the new technology, that allows this!!!! 😮😯😲
sure when you all relaxed and safe at home
I think the hair was all wrong.
i got chills with her. she extended the Egyptian empire far beyond its expiration date. she was a brilliant mind...and one of the most famous women in history
this looks alike 'Shakira' singer
It make a great deal of sense that Cleopatra was of greek and likely Persian descent. Timely considering the Netflix controversy.
Fabulous presentation as always.
that's the TH-cam Algorithm for ya lol
She was black
@@FRAKKKA She was not black man, lol...
@@Telarius yes she was a black transgender man
Controversy? There is no controversy. She is black now. End of discussion. Marc Antony was Asian, and Caesar was Arapaho. End of discussion. Get with the program.
All I know is when you showed the version with the red hair I got chills. Stunningly beautiful. Both are, but the red haired version would have been unique and would definitely left a lasting impression. Thank you!
I felt the same as you, very strong.
And, usually, what gives me chills, that’s the TRUTH. 😁
Yes and back then women with red hair in that part of the world with dark hair as the majority red hair was thought of as so beautiful. I learned that from the journals of Mohamed favorite wife
She was known to use henna in her hair and henna has natural red tones to it whether the color is dark brown or not, red undertones are always present. So that would absolutely make sense ❤️ what a beauty!
imagine time travelling back and see her, talk with her. it is mind blowing.
@@myspates6 Back then in the Mediterranean people were much fairer than today.
Red hair is even quite common in modern Greece - and our genes are mixed in with Persian, Turkish and Albanian.
I hate how netflix decided to make cleopatra in their new show, black. They really did not bother to get their facts straight. They really claim that she was black.
Which is strange because they told their woke employees to quit and then turn around and made that SJW propagandistic garbage
@@stephensharper4312Its truly an insult to Greek and African history. It implies that Africans dont have any real history and they have to be white to be valued and it just erases the fascinating true history of Cleopatra
my grandmommy told me she was black so she is black! LALALALALALALALALALA YOU CAN'T CHANGE MY MIND LALALALALALALALALALALALALA I NEVER DEVELOPED AN ADULT BRAIN LALALALALALALALALALA
They could portray Julius Cesar as a Chinese either, because that's what Netflix does.
It’s the new woke mandra
I suggest to unsubscribe
I have seen a lot of reconstructions of Cleo as historians try to reconcile the written descriptions of her with the art that is available. I think yours was probably the best reconstruction I have seen. She feels beautiful and seductive while still resembling the bust.
For a woman of her time, that redheaded version would've been very captivating. The dark hair was probably wigs that she wore to look more Egyptian like. Your version is the closest thing to authentic that I have seen. Very impressive.
Thank you so much, I appreciate the kind words ❤️
Pharaoh Rameses the Great had red hair. Still has it, since he's a mummy.
It definently was as it has also been proven she wasn't ethnically Egyptian.She was actually Macedonian Greek.
Stunning!
In those times red wigs were more common that dark color wigs.
Curly hair picture looks *EXACTLY* like *Deanna* *Troi* from Star Trek! *ALSO* the actress Marina Sirtis is *Greek!* So she’s actually a very good example of what Cleopatra could look like!
You nailed it. Especially after watching season three of Picard, Deanna Troy fits exactly the description of Cleopatra. Her beauty was truly in her presence, not 100% in her looks.
Omg so true! Someone like Deanna would be perfect for Cleo. No wonder everyone would say she was alluring.
Well spotted 👍shame Netflix isn't so observant 🤔
OH Thank you...I thought there was something familiar about her.....
I was just about to comment this. You beat me to it. Curly haired Cleo looks just like Deanna from TNG.
It could be that both versions are correct. Wealthy women throughout the Antique world would often dye their hair in order to appear fashionable and flaunt their status (as the dyes were expensive and the process was quite laborious, so only someone with ample free time and spare resources could afford it). It is known that ancient Egyptians used henna as a hair dye, which produces a reddish-brown hue, so Cleopatra was no doubt familiar with it.
Also, Roman artwork frequently depicts Venus with auburn hair. Given her personal association with Isis/Venus, Cleopatra might have intentionally dyed her hair during her stay in Rome to further the semblance with the goddess. The fact that Venus was considered the mythical ancestor of the Julii family might have been an additional factor, Cleopatra taking a deliberate effort to appear like Venus in order to further cement her relationship with Julius Caesar. Having a queen as a mistress who furthermore held a striking semblance to his mythical ancestor would have no doubt stroked Caesar's ego greatly, which Cleopatra no doubt would have used to her advantage.
I can actually see her doing that to look more like Venus, being the smart woman she was.
Your reply was very interesting. Thank you for all those facts about Cleopatra and the hair dye. Of course, henna was very popular in Egypt (still is), and Cleo would have wanted herself to look more like Venus. Well written!
I mean, maybe. Cleopatra also came from a Macedonian royal line stretching back to Ptolemy I Soter, a minor aristocrat from Macedon in northern Greece, where the nobility and royalty constantly intermarried with Thracians and Illyrians in marriage alliances. The Thracians were consistently noted as redheads in both art and literature.
@@LaryAk47 that would be pretty incredible, its a nice theory
@@ericconnor8251 That's a good point. A lot of royals had red hair. I would think it would be difficult to dye your hair red if it is naturally dark, without bleaching it. I have medium brown hair and using red henna gives it a slight reddish hue, but from far away it just looks brown. Her frescoes were light brownish red, so likely her hair was light brown or red.
It's certainly more accurate than the Netflix depiction of her as a black African queen... I thank you for caring about history and not falsifying it for the sake of modern identity politics.
Giving her red or auburn hair just magnified her beauty x1000. Looking like that explains how she could withstand the test of time. I am in love with your talent! Excellent work on this one.
yeah the second red hair version (the less defined eyelashes) is the most natural and prettiest IMO
This is 100× more accurate, informative and enjoyable than netflix series. 🎉 well done 👏
accurate and that netflix series don't even belong in the same sentence.
@bear532 Accurate and Netflix in general don't belong in the same sentence.
It is entirely speculative and is presented without evidence.
Of course, the Netflix historical revision wasn't designed to be accurate or entertaining. It was designed to push diversity and induce eye rolling, like all woke garbage.
@@kurtpena5462 I know and it’s crazy that Netflix ran with it
Wow, there's more historical facts and more to learn about the real Cleopatra in this 9 minute video then the whole series on Netflix. The integrity you have finding the facts and bringing alive several possibilities is beyond commendable.
yeah, well, I can't wait until someone comes up with the likeness of God!
@@mhmitzee God is probably: 👽
@@ourdivinemouseoverlord3308 : Probably made up!
@@mhmitzee or Jesus
@@REAL6 : is there physical proof Jesus existed?
im egyptian and honestly her face in the second red head depiction looks awfully similiar to my face which shocked
I think beauty has more than just physical appearance. Intelligence, sophistication, grace, sympathy can play important factors in this game.
No she probably was beautiful as well. Probably no supermodel but probably pretty and that combined with charm can be a powerful mix especially when trying to influence men.
A women of extreme beauty without the charm may struggle to shape the direction men are moving in but a women with a personality and charm can be extremely powerful.
Literally what she said in the video.
Do you judge a flower’s beauty by its physical appearance or its intelligence, sophistication, and grace? A woman’s vagina in many cultures is compared to as a lotus flower.
yeah, sadly, however, most people just discren that from appearance anyway when it comes down to it
Very much so, JFR. And this goes for both men and women, by the way. All of which are deplorably lacking in this day and age. Warmest Wishes. Be Well and Safe. Out.
The red haired version just really rings true, fantastic artistry
Fantasy is not reality.
@@bierlichen1 "fantastic artistry" in this context see adjectives: excellent, superb, remarkable, "artistry" in reference to technique, not subject matter.
@@bierlichen1 She is depicted in art contemporary to her life as having reddish hair.
FANTASTIC BULLSHIT!
I agree.
The red haired version immediately jumped out at me and was the most captivating. How could one not fall in love
If you're not shallow? You can't just fall in love with a face unless you're a shallow 16 year old boy.
@@butterflymoon6368 Yes, you are not wrong, but think of it this way: she was a woman of power, frequently on display, possessing charms, breeding and grooming in addition to whatever personality glimpses, real or cultivated, were 'slipping out' in addition to that pretty face. Thats a breeding ground for fantasy land crushes of people thinking they 'know her' or just plain lust, especially for someone not immediately impacted by the backlashes of her status. Celebrity crushes of all shapes and sizes are not that uncommon. Frankly I wouldn't be surprised.
She build a fake smile, with a static lower part of eyes...but not to bad.
A little bit sad to work hard on a deep humanity history, and not studying a smile !
@@butterflymoon6368 Hahahahaha, no, 16 year old boys don't fall in love with faces ...
@@palimpalim5291 Yep - all boys and men are all about the face.
Way more faithful to history than Netflix! Great work!
Thank you for acknowledging her intelligence, so many people discuss her as an airheaded minx. She was a genius.
genius though? How do you come to that conclusion?
@@jaykarhunen6568 fluently speaking ten languages, for a start
@@aubreyackermann8432 And a marketing genius. She understood how to create an aura around herself, and to shock and surprise.
I've never heard her described as anything but intelligent. She was practically the only woman of that time that was allowed to be educated like a man. I've only ever seen her described and perhaps slightly above average in looks, but it was her intelligence that made her beautiful and captivating. The first female largely, that powerful men looked to as an equal. Don't make her a pitiable thing, I've never ever heard anyone ever say she was an airhead.
@@jaykarhunen6568 Well Jay, besides speaking several languages, she must have also been a very astute politician, having managed to enchant the two most powerful persons of that time, Caesar and Marc Anthony ! History would have turned out completely different had she not been around - or not been as intelligent as she must have been !
" Her intelligence was off the charts", even with all of the inbreeding in her own family line, what you said here is the main reason why she has a lasting legacy. It doesn't really actually matter what you look like when you captivate people's minds and hearts it truly stands the test of time.
So true. I know I find nothing more attractive than an intelligent woman I can talk science with. Adds +6 to their attractiveness for me... if not more.
beautifully put...made my heart smile...
Cleopatras grandmother was a concubine, no inbreeding there which is probably why Cleopatra was beautiful.
Another famous tragic royal figure, Empress Elisabeth "Sisi" of Austria was also very smart, yet she had some real issues due to the inbreeding. One does not exclude the other.
In fact, she spent a lot of time in her mansion on Corfu, called "Achilleon", developed a love for the Greek people, financed some essential infrastructure projects on the island hence is being held with very high regard up to this day. She also spoke the Greek language very well and did the first translations of some of the most important European classic literature into Greek herself.
@@chrystale888 Inbreeding makes you get birth defects, it does not make you ugly.
As the daughter of a Greek mother, the eyes you gave Cleopatra are breathtaking AND represent Mediterranean eyes. It's usually their best physical feature. Many also have a high degree of intelligence as well.
Hahaha, high intelligence A? The Greeks got everything they know from Africa. Y'all still pushing this BS?
The eye-colour is surely wrong. The macedonians were pure indoeuropeans like Alexander himself. We find also explanations about the process of racemixing in Aristotles "politics". But at the time of Alexander the macedonians self were in every case a absolute pure tribe. What you called "Mediterranean eyes" are the eyes of mixed persons and such creatures were like the late sumerians, egyptians and so forth mostly the result of race-mixing with coloured slaves, in Egypt for instance with nubian slaves.
@@reneguenon7824 Cleopatra was a Ptolemy, a Greek. She was the only one who spoke Egyptian as well which is why many mistake her as Egyptian.
I'm Mediterranean and have the colouring.
@@chiaralistica The Ptolemies were Macedonians and kept their blood clean from foreign influences. Thats why I guess that she owned macedonian features. Mediterranean mean nothing. In ancient times all greek nations, starting with the Dorians were indoeuropeans with the look like the pure vedic and iranian people. Thats why many greek gods showing the "nordic look", pale skin, blonde hair, blue or grey eyes. And thats also the case with the most greek heros like Achilles or Odysseus or the Kings and Rulers of Sparta.
Was Cleopatra look beautiful that I could cry.....? ;(
The red headed Cleopatra looks SO RIGHT ! Goose bumps when I saw this image. I love watching your recreations.
It is very common for women in the Mediterranean to use henna to make their hair red. So whether Cleopatra was a natural redhead or not, she probably used henna.
Native Egyptians certainly used henna to that effect, but the Greeks had a variety of hair colors. Like most other Europeans, dark brown and light brown hair were majority phenotypes, but a minority did have blonde and red hair. Macedon in northern Greece was also right next to Thrace. Thracians were noted as redheads in art & literature.
maybe she made herself auburn if her hair was already dark
But many middle easternes have redhair and blue eyes too. Even now.
@@dinil5566 Yeah, and we're talking about a Greek woman, Cleopatra VII, whose ancestors came from northern Greece close to Thrace, a land filled with Thracians who were universally depicted in art and literature as a bunch of redheads. Even art from Macedon like mosaics depict various people with red hair and for that matter the name "Pyrrhus" (like the famous Pyrrhus of Epirus) means "flame haired" in Greek. To this day there are a minority of light haired people in mainland Greece, mostly in the the north, far less so in the south and almost none in Aegean islands like Crete (although some Cretans are blondish brunets).
That's true. Good thought👏👏👏
As an Egyptian, I won't say which one I believe is closer. Of course everyone will favour the version closest to theirs , but I applaud that you made ACTUAL RESEARCH AND EFFORT to reach that conclusion, unlike some people you tried to reach the truth and not apply some agenda to gain sympathies
Despite everything, makes me happy that there's still ppl around the world who can't tolerate history and facts being tampered with
some people that try to reach their political agenda, NOT the truth!! Reach a LIE rather
I agree with you 100% my friend. I find the "Documentary" from that nutty Jada Pinkett Smith nauseating. She made that self serving mess with only that poor old lady claiming that "her grandmother told her that no matter what anyone tells you, Cleopatra was black" Now who can question a reputable "historian" such as her ? 😂
According to the genetic data we have from people living alone the Mediterranean Sea around 2000 years ago more than 99% was what is called genetic white skin color, which means it you where working most of the day in the sun in Egypt you would have light brown skin, but it you where a very wealthy person like Cleopatra you would be unlikely to spend long hours in the sun every day and probably be white pale skinned.
Similar to what I have seen the president of Egypts sister looks like skin tone.
There are several Egyptians living in Denmark and most of them get as pale skin as ethnic danish people in the 6 months of the year where the sun is so weak that UV light doesn’t effect the skin color, unlike Egypt where the sun is strong enough all year 🌞 genetically white means that it can become light brown when exposed to long periods of UV light.
According to the genetic data we have from people living alone the Mediterranean Sea around 2000 years ago more than 99% was what is called genetic white skin color, which means it you where working most of the day in the sun in Egypt you would have light brown skin, but it you where a very wealthy person like Cleopatra you would be unlikely to spend long hours in the sun every day and probably be white pale skinned.
Similar to what I have seen the president of Egypts sister looks like skin tone.
There are several Egyptians living in Denmark and most of them get as pale skin as ethnic danish people in the 6 months of the year where the sun is so weak that UV light doesn’t effect the skin color, unlike Egypt where the sun is strong enough all year 🌞 genetically white means that it can become light brown when exposed to long periods of UV light.
The brunnette version is quite good, but the red-haired version is stunning. I think she might have been like a friend of mine who is pretty, but you never get a sense of how attractive she is in a still image. But once she is animated in video or person, it's just wow! I think you captured some of that in the second recreation. Love your work.
Cleopatra was BLACK DECENT
@@daquieshakeaundra2854 Not sure I follow you, She was of Greek ancestry and Egyptian royalty. We know who her parents were, we know where they came from. Are you saying she was Nubian? BLACK DECENT isn't a phrase I know. I would like to she an interpretation of her as a Nubian Woman.
@@daquieshakeaundra2854 ha ya right. And it’s descent*
She was the Queen and ruler of Egypt but she was of Makedonian and Pelopponisian descent. Both Greek. 🇬🇷 By the way she was a Red-head too
@@fredscholpp5838 to see* not she
She is physically Ebony.
She certainy wasn’t a sub Saharan African black woman, right Netflix ?
No! She was Greek. White. But Jada Smith remade history.
@@alyonix1 Lol I know. She was from the Ptolemaic dynasty as Ptolemy was one of Alexander the Great’s generals to who he gave the governance of Egypt. There are dozens of efígies of Cleopatra and she certainly was not Sub Saharan black. African Americans seem to want to play fast and loose with history and make themselves and their ancestors into some kind of super race instead of the tribal savages they were. Bet you many of them think Wakanda is actually a real country, lol!!
I know someone who looks just like the red headed version and she is from Oman. Greek, arab mix. She walks into a room and everyone is just blown away. She also has the most amazing effect on people. Everyone is left smiling.
Is that person single? Harmless joke. 😊
@@johnc.8461
You don't want to marry her because the queue to be in her bed would be a mile long ! 😂
I have always wondered why guys want to marry the most beautiful women .
Me : I would just do them when given opportunity but marry a plain jane home maker
Reincarnation?
Not at all, she was Macedonian
Cleopatra was black and since she was several generations of incest inbreeding she had deformities, she wasn't beautiful as they portray her
Wow I didn't expect to be so struck by her with red hair. I feel like maybe that's how the Roman's felt seeing her. Beautiful work
This is you people fantasizing. You wish she looked like that. Netflix got it right 😅😅😅😅
@@narmabc yeah ok man
@@narmabc Cope.
@@narmabcyou live in ignorant bliss
I love the red headed version. It's like a breathtaking fire and she's looks beautiful.
Wasn't expecting it to be animated, that caught me off guard 😅
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Seeing as how Hollywood keep erasing and replacing red heads with black people. It's funny to see Cleopatra could also be red head, and now they try to erase and replace her as well.
I personally think the dark haired version is the truth. Very beautiful regardless
Henna is a dye derived from the leaves of the primordial henna plant that grows in warm climates. While there is some conjecture regarding when it first came into popular use, the recorded history of henna points to ancient Egypt.
They dyed hair back then. 'Red hair greek' theory is absurd. You people want to believe there was this mysterious race that no longer exists when, in fact, modern people are a mirror to all the conquerors and original inhabitants that once existed. Red hair is almost nonexistent in modern Greece, if only by Western European migration. The Romans described the Celts, distinguishing their unique red hair. If that was commonplace in Greece, which was closer to the near east and interacted and mixed with the eastern civilizations, then it would be commonplace in Rome, which was more western.
Once again you nailed it. Both were not only beautiful, but honestly what I would have pictured!
In other words her personality was what drew people around her not so much what she looked like. The opposite of what we view as beautiful in today's world. Looks!
Yep. They said she was ungodly charismatic and charming. Some women have that way about them
Obviously looks can be very magnetic. But even the people today who are celebrated for their physical beauty, also have a way to carry themselves that is out of the ordinary. But she would probably still be viewed as a physical beauty. As a queen, she would have presented herself in a, well, regal way, and have access to extensive beauty rituals to keep her looking her best. She would also not be subject to malnourishment and illness, which ensured that she would develop into the most attractive version of herself she could be.
She would also have grown up with constant positive reinforcement, which would improve confidence and self-esteem, and that is something that is very noticable in a person. You see that in modern day upper class people as well - they do not have the same doubt about themselves. She would also be held to high expectations, and have teachers to help her achieve those expectations. Both socially, in ettiquette, skills, beauty, intelligence, diplomacy, etc. In combination, these factors would boost each other, and increase both her confidence, self esteem and charisma. Not to say that royals didn't also meet greater challenges and higher pressure than most people - but their baseline was 'higher', so in everyday social situations, this would greatly influence peoples first impression and the genreral impression of them.
So even if there would maybe be more physically beautiful women, she would definitely still be considered very physically beautiful, as well as very magnetic. It was more because she also had a way of conducting herself that drew people even closer.
she still was pretty
Well she’s beautiful in the depictions
whoa hold them horses ... back then ..(still and always)... big thick woman were the sign of complete beauty. All during the ages women, have tried every dangerous procedures to fit into the times. Beauty was always implied.
I think Netflix did you a huge favor haha, I believe lots of people have now researched and found this video. Well-deserved. I was lucky enough to see it BEFORE the whole Netflix issue. Thanks for using historical data to bring these ancient heroes to life!
Maybe it was all a big conspiracy to give this channel more views.
Netflix is focused on propaganda and brainwashing the youngs, they don't care of other stuff.
it's fairly basic historic knowlegde that Cleopatra was of Greek Decent and looked so. I don't think this video is that enlightening for most people. it's interesting, but it's not a revelation. Every adult with at least a vague interest in history knows this stuff.
@@Jaymes400 and yet Netflix releases a worldwide documentary portraying a black queen... I, just like many others, knew she was of Greek decent (and thus not ethnically black) but nobody really knows what she actually looked like (yes, we have coins, that famous Berlin bust and paintings but they all show different face features) so what this channel does by giving 3D colorful interpretations is quite impressive.
@@houssem.khaledall depictions of her have fairly similar facial structure and that’s stated in the video
Red haired Cleopatra is....wow. If she looked anything like this I understand Marc Antony's immediate emotional response incredibly well. Beautiful work, truly.
Antony also had a similar hair color, actually. He had reddish brown hair.
And Julius Caesar
@@tabbymrp yeah people keep falling for her for sure. But historically I don't understand the hype, just kinda seems like all you had to do was be roman.
@@grizzlyblackpowder1960 To bed Cleopatra you had to be *the* most powerful Roman. And willing to give her heirs i guess! Caesar gave her a son and Antony gave her at least 3 little brats.
I learn more in under ten minutes from a TH-camr that a four hour documentary from Netflix
One of the things that I like about Cleopatra's story, is that she was considered breath taking and beautiful, even though she didn't look perfect. I wish we could be less perfectionistic nowadays and see the beauty and charm in people, without constantly feeling pressured to look like only one specific way.
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Cleopatra VII IS gorgeous, but its important to remember that she is highly intelligent, highly ambitious and determined. Her beauty and grace are extra bonuses
we do my friend... we do... nearly none of us men loves perfection... we are searching for some trademarks like freckles, non-symetric face, bigger eye brows or thin, a little scar that looks cute, beauty-marks (tell called beauty marks because normaly u would say: a black point on your face isnt nice but it was because its something different and only few woman had those), etc etc etc. most men and woman dont search for perfection.
I like how the running joke in Asterix & Obelix was showing her having a big nose and always have men infatuated with it. This isn't about imperfections but about ridiculous standards of beauty that kinda try to tell Middle Eastern women to get rhinoplasty to look whiter as that is supposed to be more attractive.
this
Actually, we know now that many Greek and Roman statues were painted, and to find out Cleopatra's skin, hair, and eye color, it might be possible to do spectrographic and other techniques to find out what pigments were used and in what tones and shading used on her statues.
They did it on the bust in Berlin and the hair color came out as brown. They didn't define the shade.
Well there's still all the wall frescos of her that are painted, she used them in the video.
@@stsk1061 Alexander The Great had rosy blonde hair. Ptolemy I had brown-red hair, a bit like myself. So the odds of Cleopatra having had dark red/brown hair seems very likely, especially since her colorized illustrations show her with deeply dark red hair, not light red.
@@TheStraightestWhitest Two of Cleopatra's ancestors are described as being blond, but that was 200 years before her time. The evidence seems to suggest that she had dark brown hair but very fair skin.
@@stsk1061 Did you watch the video? I've seen countless illustrations of her with dark red hair.
This is amazing work and Netflix needs to take notes.
Did you watch the video?
She says in this video that her father’s side was Greek… BUT no one knows definitively who her mother or grand mother were.. AND that one of her ancestors on father’s side is known to have a native Egyptian concubine.. so it IS entirely possible she does have native Egyptian ancestry… she just claims that the chances are low.. BUT she WAS certainly a woman of color given confirmed Persian and Syrian ancestry..
again.. did you actually watch the video??
@@forbidden-cyrillic-handle but yeah.. would have been interesting to see a darker skinned version in addition to the olive skinned one.. we can say definitively that straight haired one is just wrong.. I have not seen even one statue or painting of her with straight hair so we can likely throw that one out!
@@drapetomaniack Did you? Have you seen the profiles on the coins, the statues depiction...? That is pretty close to caucasian. Pretty Greek looking... even if some genes got mixed into the pot, she still looks Greek on those coins.
@@mtljmbTUBE c'mon man... those coins are pretty rough back then.. If she went by the coins the renderings would have looked like the wicked witch of the west.. look at that nose 😂 the coins are too rough to tell you ANYTHING!
@@forbidden-cyrillic-handle This is youTube so I won't hold my breath for an apology.. but think it's pretty clear to everyone that everything I said is in the video.. is in the video 😎
OhMy...She certainly was a stunning beauty for her time. Great job as always!
I always heard that she was not exceptional in any way physically--but more charming or ... cunning perhaps. Your depictions are very stunning.
An average beauty for middle eastern
I basically have very close to similar features to her. Thanks for calling me average, but hey society only considers what's trending now and they all look the same. All best.
@@lacil8895 lmao you choosing to take that personal speaks more on your self esteem
I ll never understand why ppl confuse sexuality with beauty. U dont have to be a model to be charming etc . But still , u can be top . Perhaps ,fem sexuality is more important than extreme beauty. Add brain and her intellectual skills so u have it
@@honkingantelope1990_ for a man it is more important to have high feminine energy than to be highly beautiful & both are different
I'd really like to know what Helen of Troy looked like for after all she had "the face that launched a thousand ships."
When I saw the red headed version it literally took my breath away. Even if her hair was colored with henna I could completely see how she could be captivating. I think your art was lead by God to reveal history. Beautiful.
@@greyLeicester take a chill pill mate..
Why you are rude to her? She said something nice in her own sweet way, why it has to be about how you feel or what you think?
There are other people in this world besides you, you don’t occupy alone this planet.
Because this whole channel is about taking artifacts and then painting them into better looking people than depicted, with modern hair and cosmetic effects. It’s a thinly veiled con.
Nahhh with short hair she's any girl of the subway.
Cleopatra had LONG hair without a doubt.
She was beautiful and feminine (not masculine, not feminist)
when a woman gets her hair cut short, the only ones who compliment her are other women.
men just stay respectfully quiet...
(thinking how she lost 1/2 of her beauty)
@@carlostejada1479 those were wigs the egyptians wore, not their hair. In fact a lot if them were shaved bald under the wigs. Its hot in Egypt.
@@Hajde_budalla
I don't know...
if you're gonna wear a wig, you better choose a long haired wig...
to wear a short haired wig it's absolutely pointless.
Short hair is not "cool" it's not beautiful, it's not anything.
the first 2 Cleopatras here looks thousand times better than the last one.
I like the red-headed version better. If your reconstruction is anywhere near accurate, she was a beauty. If she had the personality to go with it, it's no wonder she became such a remembered part of history.
I'm really glad someone finally showed the redhead hypothesis, given we know redhead genes were not only an occurrence in Greeks but also common in Persia and amongst Thracians (two groups the Macedonian Greeks came in early contact with and eventually conquered) it's regularly shocking to me that more people have never heard this hypothesis let alone understand how logical it is.
Thracians were said by the Greeks to be the most numerous people in the world, after the Indians. (Also said nobody on Earth could hope to fight against them if they actually organized). Very fair skin, red hair, blue eyed Indo-Europeans. Im pretty sure they are a large reason for the red haired genes and the typically Indo European haplogroups scattered all throughout these regions.
If modern day Greeks and Slavs are at least somewhat representative, then I can believe that. Red hair isn't super common but definitely not unheard of.
@@vessela7484 - here's a conundrum ... my great-grandfather came to America when he was 16, from Sicily.
He had hazel green eyes, and auburn hair. From Sicily. That's right IN the Med, so who knows where his genes
came from. My great-grandmother was more explainable. From Ancona Italy - blond haired and blue eyed.
My great-grandfather from Limerick Ireland had jet black hair and deep blue eyes. SOOOO many questions 😆
@@pawwalker3492 Diversity exists everywhere. I'm bulgarian and I have green eyes and my grandpa's eyes were bright blue.
@@vessela7484 - that's my point, too. I love that most of my family, on both sides, don't fit typical looks.
My great grandmother from Italy - Ancona is way up north, on the Adriatic. So, to me, it's no surprise she was blond and blue. But a red-headed, green eyed Sicilian gives one pause 😆 I love this stuff!
The Ptolomies were so insular, greek-obsessed and removed from the Egyptians, one of the remarkable and mentioned thing about Cleopatra was that she was only one of that dynasty to have ever bothered to learn Egyptian. None of her predecessors had done so. It wasnt even spoken in court. Crazy ppl. As for her beauty, the historians back then do mention some times she was not physically blindingly beautiful but that is was the sharpness of her mind and intellect and this insane charisma that made her impossibly magnetic and made people go gaga over her. She must have been such an amazing woman.
I loved this. I really like the red headed version
Thank you!
yep it blew my mind when that image smiled!!!absalute knockout
I could see someone with that look capturing the eye of the two most powerful Romans of their time, and her intelligence and social grace keeping them captured.
@@RoyaltyNowStudios Can you do on Gautam Buddha?Plz🙏🏻🙏🏻.
He had blue eyes and curly hairs.
Thank you
I am Greek and appreciate the authenticity here. You did your research clearly. Using coins as one example of her appearance is clever, but so is eyewitness testimony. Roman sculptures were reminiscent of Greek ones, so it stands to reason they would want to capture Cleopatra in all her likenesses.
The red hair version is breathtaking! The dark hair version is beautiful, too. (As someone else stated, women died their hair with henna). The red hair version is just stunning! Great work
"Dyed" is the verb.
She was Greek, so it could be true having red hair, most likely more dark.
Alexandros himself was described as having hair that shined as fire under the sun in Greek texts, usually hair appears lighter under the sun as it reflects the highlights.
There were tombs in Athens found from that time having the red hair gene.
Hrabe ti blbe
@@annas4843 Kleopatra byla Egypťanka a Řekové jsou černovlasí.
All the versions look impressive, and I could see how Caesar and Mark Antony were charmed by her, but I like the red haired version the best.
I love that you mentioned the accounts that mentioned her beauty. So many people quote Pascal about her nose and assume she was a troll. I find it highly unlikely she wasn’t beautiful, maybe not the most beautiful woman on earth, but she had to have a looks as well as a brain. She’s my favorite historical figure and anyone who agrees should read “Memoirs of Cleopatra” by Margaret George.
And she would’ve had skilled women to apply her makeup to ensure she was the most captivating person in the room.
Meanwhile she married her own brother to gain power. Really you respect incest?
she had a big ol' clown nose. a giant honker. a silly looking snout.
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Love that book! I think it had the most unmatched, authentic portrayal of her character while also being an immersive read
I like your work. You obviously do a lot of research but are not afraid to make educated guesses, too. It is fun to watch the past come to life. Thank you.
It's very appealing seeing the history in colors and putting images to unknown. If history is taught like this, i am sure ppl love to read. Your facial reconstruction work is astounding and very detailed.
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Your version of Cleopatra shows her to be a radiant beauty.
Just Beautifully Stunning 😍
So it's not only a myth . She was really beautiful
She was the product of 5 to 8 generation of heavy inbreeding. Just check her family tree. So her beauty is questionable.
@@locolobo958 Does inbreeding affect beauty always? I thought it affected the mind and lead to madness on occasion.
@@UrielsJunkDrawer king Tut and Charles of Spain were also example of generations of inbreeding, both have lot and lot of deformities, whole body including face. King Charles ancestors were marrying cousins but in the case of egypt they were marrying sisters and brothers, father daughter, half sister. So if king tut and Charles have a lot of issues and far from being beautiful, doubt Cleopatra was beautiful, also the coins with her face look like a witch, with long nose etc. You can read everything about all these people on internet.
I think the depictions you've made really capture the descriptions of her not being a "perfect beauty", but also being captivatingly beautiful in her own way. She did seem to have a very good understanding of the chemistry of beauty (or, at least, someone in her entourage did).
If henna and/or lemon juice was available at that time, there's every chance that she was originally dark haired but lightened her hair using products like this. Might explain the different hair colours shown and recorded.
You may have heard that she "bathed in milk and honey". In modern day beauty products, we would call that things like: lactic acid, alpha-hydroxy acid, antibacterial, anti-aging, anti-inflammatory, healing and moisturising properties... She may not have been the prettiest girl on the planet, but, wow. What a woman!
Now wait just one minute. Jada and Netflix know what they are talking about. They even hired a historian that tells us that when she was a little girl, her mom said to her, "no matter what anyone tells you, Cleopatra was Black" Her MOM said it so what's more definitive than that? C'mon, facts, right?
I'm Asian and waiting with bated breath for when Jada and Netflix show strong African queens from China.
👋🏿Hey. Pretty wacky, right? I only came to this video to see how accurate the information is. Apparently it's simply white pride. Great premise but more attention to the facts should be paid. Thanks for the honesty, it was powerful. You can tell by the low amount of likes (YES!🤸🏿♂️), nowadays it means you're likely correct😂
@@mlk.ali_X So "white pride" equates to trying to be as historically accurate with the most reputable information known/gleaned? And what's wrong with literally anyone having pride in their ancestors and where they came from as long as they don't use it to put themselves on a pedestal above others/other races? Boy, you're wacky. *Extreme* Afrocentrism is a very special form of delusion.
I guarantee you, that they'll find a black Chinese queen.
Thank you for your beautiful educational look at history! Being Greek, my mother had brunette hair, my father was blonde, my brother has dark brunette, my sister has red brown hair and I am blonde. Throughout my childhood, it was my sister's beautiful red hair that drew attention to our family. In addition, when my sister was a teen, she looked similar to your red haired Cleopatra ❤️
She looks very Persian to me. I'm in Toronto and we have a huge Persian community here and this gave is so familiar. You could walk in a shopping mall and find 10 girls who look like this
I really appreciate explaining so much research...and for doing it to make your work even more fascinating and important.
Thank you!!
@@RoyaltyNowStudios Can you do on Gautam Buddha?Plz🙏🏻🙏🏻.
He had blue eyes and curly hairs.
@@RoyaltyNowStudios your voice is amazing 🤩
Excellent research on Cleopatra. So well done and thorough. She was an amazing woman and your reconstructed appearance of her shows a truly stunning and appealing person. It's no wonder the Roman Ceasars were captivated by her. Thank you for this video.
Thanks so much for the work... It was such an emotion to see her statue come to life... I almost cried!! Thanks so much!!
This red haired version looks a lot like the one from HBO Rome series. Which was known for doing their homework in many details. This means that this reconstruction is on the right path. Very good!
How, when that drawing looks nothing like the paintings on the Egyptian walls that they left? Just how?
@@fromtheheavenlyrealms8613Egyptian art wasn't nessassarily about detail according to this video, it was more religious and metaphorical it seems. That makes sense due to the religious nature of the position of Pharoah and how she was associated with the goddess Isis.
@@wingedhussarswiss4703 Dude...the painters drew what they saw just as all painters did.
All of Roman pictures are white people. All of Asia's pictures are Asian people. How come you don't have a theory on those, or on any other pics or paintings in the earth?
I guess only the black paintings have a back story that suggest they weren't really black. Please record yourself talking and then listen to it over and over until you hear how foolish you sound.
@@fromtheheavenlyrealms8613 Egyptian art is not the best "realism" art, which is VERY VERY hard to do.
@@wanderingNprobablylost Sources?....or opinion??
Your first depiction of her with wavy dark hair, she looked remarkably like Deanna Troi from Star Trek next Gen (sorry my nerd’s hanging out!) . But the redheaded version is stunning.
That’s *EXACTLY* what I was going to say!!! Almost a spitting image of Troi!
ALSO Marina Sirtis is *Greek!* So she’s actually a very good example of what Cleopatra could look like!
I thought the same.
well Marina Sirtis is Greek, so they would of course look similar
Marina Sertis is Greek, so Cleopatra would probably have looked like her ;)
Agreed with what everybody said above. She does look like Deanna Troi and she is very pretty. Why did the ancient Romans say that she was average looking ? They're blind. It must be that they hated her for being an Egyptian queen who married their leader, Caesar.
The red headed version is breathtaking. You are awesome. Keep at it. You rock.
Oh my goodness!! Wow this was amazing! Personally, I liked the red haired Cleopatra the best :)
The red heaeded version is gorgeous 😍😍😍
What sorcery is this!? When the portrait animated and smiled I kind of teared up a little. Reminded me of Ofra Haza. Such amazing work you put into this!
Stunning 🤩
So what about her sister
wow i think the red-hair version is perfect. It just looks absolutely Macedonian to me! And she looks very beautiful in all your renders.
When I learned of her in elementary school I felt a very strong affinity with Cleopatra. your reimagining just rekindled that feeling, thank you so much for the opportunity to look into her eyes and to truly see her. She was stunning & intelligent. This truly feels like an honor to be apart of ❤
Someone needs to let Will Smith's wife know this. She thinks she's black 😅😅😅
😅😅😅she is black 😅😅😅😅
The pro blacks think everything is black or black created
She knows she wasn't black. They're rewriting history.
Yeah. They are lying through their teeth 🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀
She also things cheating is "entanglement ' , so 😂😂
I'm inclined toward her being a ginger and any dark haired version can be attributed to the head-piece they'd wear. Otherwise, I had no idea there were so many images of her. BTW, I love your videos! Bringing these people to life is so satisfying and makes them live for us!
Such an important woman, known around the Roman world for seducing the most powerful men ever, yet also being known for wit, sensuality, and intelligence OBVIOUSLY had many many paintings of her. We see in text references of huge statues that were unfortunately lost to time, but many remain! Including a full bust.
Red hair seems fairly likely, but also brown hair, what seems least likely considering those picture is raven black hair.
@@znail4675 The red could've been due to henna. Or not, maybe just her natural hair, which according to texts was common in Macedonia. Alexander the Great himself had a hair color described as bronze/copper.
Henna is a dye used since Ancient Egypt that gives a different color depending on your natural hair color.
If she had light brown hair she would've looked a bit like a redhead.
If black hair it would look barely different, something like maroon brown.
I bet she was naturally light brown hair, maybe red undertones, and looked like an Irish redhead if she ever used henna. Natural red hair is possible, but not that light orange of ireland, but more Mediterranean red (lemme think of an example and ill edit the post).
Edit: i got an example. this video lmao. the red hair version of the video is what i was thinking
Lol this quickly turned to speculation. In any case I can only say with certainty her hair could not have been black.
@@crusaderACR she is an African queen 👸🏾
@@bbmzfifi3860 Elon Musk is an African billionaire
I'm always still blown away at the thought of how each person throughout history is so unique in so many ways...
Yes I agree, who knows what she really looked like but by the sculptures of her and her images on the coins...I d say it's a solid guess, bravo, great great work. You are very talented!
I think we all gotta admit, it's a new norm when enthusiasts on TH-cam do a better job than huge corporations.
I never knew Cleopatra had some Persian in her, that’s awesome AF! I guess that makes sense, given our close interactions (and constant warring) with the Greeks.
Thanks for your awesome art, and for not butchering the history! As a Persian who majored in European History with an emphasis on antiquity, I give you an A! Had you made her nose a bit pointier, you would have gotten an A+ ☺️
I guess Alex and his bros were into Persian nobles and royalty!
The simulation looks pretty Persian actually.
@@Rondo2ooo I totally agree. I’ve known fellow Persians who look Greek and vice versa, and you figure that after thousands of years, there had to have been some mingling between our peoples eventually! 🤷🏽♀️
@@MaryamofShomal varean
There was no plastic surgery back then to make her noise pointier 😂😂
The auburn-haired depiction is breathtaking. It looks more believable than her having jet-black hair considering how she is a multi-ethnic person with West Asian and Southeastern European ancestry. It's not impossible to envision her with auburn hair because that hair color also appears in many Asian countries, particularly around regions of West Asia like modern-day Iran through Central Asia, near Pakistan.
It is only hard to believe when you do not understand the make up of the world in that era.
North Africa in that period was not the Middle East nor was it populated by central Africans. The Moorish Empire spread in the 8th century so people of that ethnic group only started to dominated post 8th century.
The Greeks and Romans of that period did have fair complexion so red hair and pale skin would have been normal. The whole theory of cleopatra having African heritage is just a myth. Most people are also confused about the ancient egyptians and assume they are somehow ethnically connect to the current ethnic make up of modern North Africa.
@@bighands69 Ikr
Red or darker haired, she is very striking!
@@CleopatraPapadopoulos
What do you mean.
So fascinating. I always thought she had dark hair but I'm not so sure now. Your reconstructions of both in dark and red hair are beautiful and either one could be her.
it amazes me how i influential she was. History remembers this woman more than any woman.
Well, Helen of Troy gets a lot of clicks, but alas really no visual clues about her (Bronze Age too murky) - just the mythology/legendary-quasi-history
Except of course Mary the mother of Jesus
Nefertiti was without a doubt the most influential woman in history. The whole of the western world exists thanks to her.
nobody remembers her dude what r talking about?
@@Ash01010 Dear White Fang, the fact that no one remembers her does not mean she was not the most influential. She was the Jewish wife of Pharaoh Akhenaten and mother to Tutankhamun. Thanks to her, Egypt became monotheistic. Amen became the word for God at the end of each prayer (Amen Ra aka Amun Ra). This is a very hot topic in archeology right now. No Christianity, no Western
World.
She was into anything I found out when I researched her while I was in college, she knew how to work the room. She was very 'flexible' to new ideas, she used what she had to the maximum. A woman's beauty can be mesmerizing in many ways.
That’s what I read too. She was just fascinated by everything so she was able to talk to anyone about really anything, which is considered “charming.” I think she also had very high social intelligence because of this I think and was able to “work the crowd” since she never alienated herself to one group, and was aware of social manipulation (which is not necessarily a bad thing. I think we would call them as social hacks now a days, i.e. maintaining eye contact and commanding presence in the room)
@@kandrpy3161 I see a lot of parallels between Cleopatra and the equally ill fated famous Austrian empress Elisabeth. Both had a reputation for being very beautiful, both were very smart, good at politics but subject to problems caused by centuries of inbreeding and they both gained popularity by caring to learn languages - Egyptian in Cleopatras case, allegedly the first Ptolemaic sovereign to do so and Elisabeth ironically with Greek when she resided on Corfu.
And both are shining romanticized historic figures with a cult following.
I love the red-haired version of her but the dark hair is stunning as well! Thank you so much for the work you have put into making these historic people come to life! I have been fascinated with all the examples!
Excellent job. I am happy that you researched the history and didn't spread the lie that many are pushing about Cleopatra.
This was just fascinating. I really was able to see her as a person, both hair colors equally represented.
Imagine after all this research, someone come saying “I don’t care what they teach u at school, cleopatra is ………..” and somehow she is a professor
I think the red headed one is brilliant.. and more likely. She's absolutely breath taking. Thank you for bringing her back to life for us. You did an amazing job.
The black hair version is beautiful. I am saddened people prefer the white ginger looking version better than the ethnic version
@@Pinkrosessss i agree with you. I love the black hair version.
The red headed version brought tears to my eyes. Wow. I love it.
I have absolutely no idea why all of these recreations make me cry.
There were two surprising things to me when I first read about her: 1. More than one Egyptian queen was named Cleopatra as was Alexander the Great's sister. 2. The famous Cleapatra, that we are remembering with this, was not Egyptian per se, but Macedonian/Greek, being the relative of two of Alexander the Great's generals, Ptolemy and Seleucus. Who knew? In the stories, Julius Caesar and Marc Antony are pretty much the well-known.
She also has 4 great grandparents where she was meant to have 16. And one of those couples was siblings
Alas there are many misconceptions: That Alexander was a Slav, Cleopatra Egyptian and St. Nikolaos Turkish. All Greek.
Yes, I think the Cleopatra we know is Cleopatra VII
Ancient writers said Thracians had red hair and and worshipped a read headed god. Thrace was next door to Macedon, so the redhead cleopatra makes sense, plus even the Roman sculpture appears to have auburn paint that has faded, and the pompey frescos leave no doubt.
@@palimpalim5291 i love how turks and slavs didnt even live there yet
Netflix producers should watch this.
@Nin10dofan8 R.L.M Redhead lives matter too !!!!!
@Solur Lol that's actually funny :D
@Solur what does red head have to do with black
@@sammyjr6989 Hollywood has replaced any redhead female with Black, including Ariel.
@@wesmo_ I see your point but why
Another beautiful depiction of a historical figure and a fascinating history lesson. Thank you.