BARE SHAFT TUNE your ARROWS w/ Ranch Fairy!
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- Ranch Fairy helps Ted get his arrows shooting like darts!
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5:09 “bare shafting is just something you never really explored.” my 2 kids say otherwise
Jake is a mouth breather good lord
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You leave Jake alone!!! Lmao
We all gotta breathe somehow 😂
More hunters ought to learn a little physics. As a late in life hunter who's always been a tutor and teacher, I love seeing the physics understanding behind all of the gear tinkering and strategy.
Troy I have learned so much from you. I did what you said building high f.o.c. arrows, the poor man's way. Due to a shoulder injury I switched from a 60-70 lb bow to a 50-60 lb bow. I took the arrows (cx300) for 60-70 bow and 8 .22 caliber lead pellets, for a pellet gun, swaged the skirts open and glued eight of them together head to tail. Each skirt on the pellet was slightly larger than the i.d. of the shaft. I took a wooden dowel and pushed them down to the back end of the insert. With 125 grain Broadhead or Field Point. I got slightly over 23% FOC. Arrows truly fly like darts off of my Hoyt Prohawk @53-55 lb with a 29"drawlength. I did the same thing with some inexpensive no name carbon arrows for my Mongolian horse bow @ 50lbs. 225-250gr seems to be the sweet spot like you said, I don't know why but it is. I am a disabled veteran with a very small fixed income I can't even afford to hunt now, but I'm grateful for you and your Channel. I have spoken to my friends about Dr. Ashby and the ranch fairy Channel. Thank you so much for the inspiration, if at some point I can afford to hunt one day, I will be sure to let you know how it turned out. Keep putting out those awesomely informative videos. God bless and take care.
Troy the Ranch Fairy is awesome! He guided me through the process of changing to a higher FOC arrow and would respond to my questions or results very quickly! Sometimes faster than going through your local fast food drive thru! Remember there is the ranch fairy test kit available with the different weighted tips to see what weight your bow likes. I went to a 300 spine arrow and 250 grains up front so I went with the 100 grain brass insert and 150 Magnus Ser Buzzcut.... mini spear!
What is your draw length and poundage, just out of curiosity?
Great video. My tuning steps: 1) get the arrow pointing straight in the rest, 2) shoot up close, 3) shoot far away, 4) adjust rest as required. I like Mr. Ranch Fairy's simple methods - the proof is in the results. Ted for President.
That was off in two ways...off the chain education!! And around 13:40 was off your rocker! You're nuts RF, I love it! Thanks THP!!!
300 spine, 225 gr up front, 19% FOC is absolutely a sweet spot. That has been my setup for many years, nothing but stellar results.
That slot mo shot of the bareshaft arrow coming out was incredible, pulls all the things Troy is talking about together
Thank you for putting this in a way I could understand it. Not all of us have 1300 dollar bows. I don’t! This was cool!
Seriously, a great simple informative video. Years ago there was little to no heavy inserts. I used to epoxy brass rod pieces to the end of the point insert. I did make the pieces exact in weight with the insert on the weight scale to get exact measurements. 50-75-100 grain plus the insert to within 1/2 grain. Back then bareshaft tuning was really not well practiced but grouping was the goal. I did try nock tuning some as I shot a whisker biscuit so it didn't matter. There weren't any fancy drop away rests. Mechanical broadheads weren't invented. Two and three blade fixed was about all there was. Fletchings were either very small for basically indoor or 3 to 4" for hunting and in retrospect they were pure junk. The goal then was to keep hits in a 3" circle at 30 yards was excellent results. We all just figured nearly everything we shot was around 30 yards. And in reality a 5" or 6" area is usually in the " kill zone ".
Thank you. Great old school.🏹
I wish these videos were like 4 hours long.
I sat in a tree 11hrs and 45 mins one time. I can't do no 4 hr video though! But I see what you mean, it's good stuff!!
Your wife doesn’t ! 😂
@Jason Johnson hahaha im 36 dumbass.🙄 I havent lived with mommy in many many moons.
I wished they can make more videos of them buying bows and a lot of accessories but there ain’t no point of buying a new bow
Lots of great information and thanks for sharing. After this season has ended I will start the process of moving to this type of arrow setup.
28” 300 spine @60 lb 150 brass insert 125 Montec works for me. Great video, great advice!
Ted's shooting a whisker buscuit......Imagine that!!!
I liked the comparison of hitting a nail with a hammer and the way an arrow leaves the bow.
Great shooting Ted! Now, I'm ready to see you put some bacon on the ground!
Good luck guys and stay safe!
Cubby
Nooooo. Its the hat!!!!!! Teds proved that..love the channel boys. Thanks
Thanks for the video. The slow motion clips really show arrow in flight and what it looks like tuned vs not tuned.
It appears that Ted's bow hand could be a little bit more relaxed. It doesn't look like a death grip, but he could be introducing torque with a closed grip.
I appreciate the info and this is a tuning method that the average dude can manage. Definitely snorting the fairy dust
I think I have my final FOC setup finalized, thanks to RF's help, but I think I will film it in slow-mo to see how it's actually flying. Keep the vids coming y'all!
I’m a first timer at this but I started tinkering with my arrows after watching RF and I filmed it in slow mo on my phone. It really seemed to help me pick the best point and shaft especially since I didn’t have a rig to paper tune with.
Love seeing your comments on this channel Shane. You all have good things to teach, even to each other. You, The Hunting Public, Ranch Fairy, Average Jack Archery, Catman Outdoors, DIY Sportsman, and The Hunting Beast are just about all my subscribed channels, and Born and Raised Outdoors for the Elk tips and hunts. Keep it up Shane, this community is awesome and moving hunting in a positive direction. Thank you for what you do.
@@justinmailloux549 appreciate it man! Your fav channels pretty much match mine. 😁
Ted is always so quiet. Not the "I know" type. Somebody raised him right. I'm 51, and have a lot of respect for them. Class act Hunting Public, keep it up!
..You too Troy, Ha..Ha..Ha
Grant and ranch fairy look like twins with the visors ! 👍
Love these videos, can’t wait for deer season !!
Helical through a whisker biscuit? Great seeing ole Troy showing how high foc works! Kudos guys to the last few videos including this one! Nothin better than seeing the 2 best TH-cam channels working together! It’s great to see guys preaching broadhead sharpening and arrow tuning!
Yeah, that's scary.
I've been shooting 2 years strictly target making the move to live target & wanted to learn about arrow selection I learned more about bow set up in 2 videos from you than I learned the 2 years of research & shooting .
Appreciate common sense advice & humor from a life long sportsman... Thanks RF
This video was awesome! Last year i purchased the same bow ted has... (Bear Species). Took down 2 deer last year with it but with this info i believe i will be taking down more this year. Thanks guys! 🏹
So awesome, the guys from my 2 favorite channels all together
I loved this video I have the same draw and weight of bow and did the same setup and it worked awesome im hitting tacks with my fixed broadheads at 50 yards!!
Awesome! Similar results with my Bear Status and my Bear Legion single cam before that. 65 pounds, 28.5 draw, 300 spine with 225 to 250 up front flies great!
That's a great tip for tuning , thanks.
Lots of great information. I'm old school, taught a new set up which I am going to try. Going to be using this setup or close to it.
Shot a hog for the first time two weekends ago. Absolutely DESTROYED the liver with a rage broadhead. Ran 30 yards and dropped. Not a single ounce of blood on the ground and it did not pass thru. Ordered a 6 pack of single bevel iron wills that night. Skinning that hog it was utter carnage in the chest cavity but no blood anywhere on the ground. Hoping to have better luck with the iron wills.
Great info. I've been thinking about building up a heavier arrow. Really close to my specs too. Thanks!
I feel i learned alot tonight! Good stuff!
bows have fascinated me much more than guns in terms of physics. definitely looking forward to getting my first bow to use all around for hunting all over the country! (might not happen but it would be cool!)
You will never regret learning this keep it up thanks
Just built my sirius apollos 300 grain with 225 up front and they fly beautiful with my new ventum 30. Bareshaft tuning is a must!
Ted shoots well. I’m looking forward to tinkering with a stiffer arrow spine and heavier broadheads. Thanks for teaching me!
I wouldn't argue with accuracy success, however he definitely chokes his grip. I got to think it's 70 or 80 yards he's going to have enough bow torque to have Broadhead planing out....
Awesome video. Also love my Sirius arrows. Been shooting them since the company started. They hit like a tank.
I was trying to order a couple 250/300 spine arrow and found I could only purchase by the dozen! That's a couple hundred bucks for something I would only use a couple of out of a dozen.
i remembered hearing Ranch Fairy saying something about "Ranch Fairy test kit" so I Googled it and found it. Two of 250 spine arrows two 300 spine arrows nocks and inserts plus field points in different weights for testing. Awesome! Thanks RF!
Love the arrow tuning
I know you guys have lives, but we want more!! Lol. Keep it up fellas
Back in the early days this is why we paper tuned our bows, the tear in the paper would show you if you had perfect arrow flight or not off the arrow rest. Ranch's way makes a lot of sense as well because it shows you how well or not well your arrow is flying further down range. That extra pt. wt. made all the difference in the world.
Paper tuning is the next step you take after bareshaft tuning.
@@sed6 In my opinion that is not true. Why would you bare shaft then go back to paper? Paper will help you adjust spine and bow to get bare shaft or fletched arrow bullet hole. Then you can go to distance and shoot bare shaft and fletched shaft to make micro rest and/or spine adjustments to get them hitting together and straight. The paper is just to make sure your arrow is not getting launched out of your bow sideways before shooting it at distance. You can then go on to group tuning or broadhead tuning depending on the arrows purpose
Great info 👍. Ashby doesn't lie. No matter how you build it, FOC is king.
Troy sent me some info today and I ordered a test kit , pretty excited to get a better foc arrow
I hope there are more pig hunts coming!!! Can’t wait until the 2020 Deer Tour announcement and videos. Only 62 more days until Kentucky opens.
Awesome stuff guys!!! That arrow is gonna bust thru alot of animals!!!
Great information!! I like the step by step process makes it easier to understand for us simple folks. Maybe Ted should try and relax his hand his bow when he shoots?
Your pretty much always going to apply a little bit of torque, and bareshaft tuning will exaggerate that. Plus they were shooting in the wind which causes even more pressure in the grip
Cant wait for for deer season
Great. Thank you guys!!!
You guys have always been there for the working man's hunt
I tuned my breathing with his.
I like how he spray painted where the pig vitals actually are. They are much more forward than that of a deer.
I Appreciate Ranches Fairy’s Time invested in the entire process…
Ranch Fairy needs to Write a Updated Book
I would like this video series 1000 times if I could.
In that slow motion video of that first bare shaft shot, you could see the arrow was flying towards the target sideways when it hit the other arrow. At the end of the video, you could see the heavier bare shaft arrow was flying pretty sideways too when it hit the pig and wobbled back and forth a lot.
Yeah the arrow flight did not seem great with either setup. Seems like the bow may be a bit out of tune
A wrist sling and a relaxed grip will tighten things up.
Awesome video!
Worth mentioning that FOC also helps accuracy. If you took a broomstick and put a weight on the end of it and threw it, it’ll fly straighter than if the weight wasnt there.
Shooting GT Hunter Pro 300 with 100g insert and 150g tip 28.5 inches. Rock-solid. Missed the target in the basement at 12 yards and hit the concrete wall (don't ask why). Arrow shaft was still good. The insert slipped forward from the shock. Tapped it back in and ready to go.
I started the process a couple weeks ago and went from a 380gr arrow with 8% FOC to 510gr arrow with 17.5% FOC! Cannot wait to take it in the woods this fall!
How you feeling 2 years later?
@@johndenver5029 I have kept around the same number just changed arrow and broadheads for tinkering purposes! Still running around 15% FOC! How’s your setup?
Great content guys 👊🏻✊🏻
I love the videos thank you for providing such useful content! I do have a quick question, how much does the weight of a lighted nock affect a broadhead tuned setup with standard nocks? I am running a 572gr setup with 14
% FOC.
built some arrows last year 575 grains with a 350 spine and a 3 degree right helical. 70# draw at 28” every fixed 3 blade had a slightly left or right pull. granted could have been me, always except human error. the only thing i have changed this year is going to a 250 spine you will not be disappointed! i even drop down to 65# draw. this years arrow build was:- (sirius archery “volcon” 250 spine 100gr insert AAE max 2.6 fletching and a fixed blade 125gr). 15% foc total of 617gr. first knock tuning grouping at 20yrds i was damaging fletching. it’s not rocket science but but before hearing of doc. ashby and ranch fairy i was always hesitant and wondering if i was making/ taking a good shot even if it was a perfect situation. good job guys keep up the good work!!!!
I'm totally digging this ! Thank you for all of your work and sharing it with us. Is 2 blade single bevel broadhead final position (consistancy on all arrows) critical in the tuning process? If so how do I reposition any insert inconsistencies?
I use a 100 grain insert and actually use an excalibur boltcutter broadhead (they are meant for crossbows, a little shorter blades but a full 150 grains). Helical vanes, broadheads shoot just like the field points
Great freaking lesson
Another great vid.
Got some 200 grain cutthroats and they group better at 30-40 yards then my field points what’s up with that Troy , I guess I better stop playing now total weight 743 grain 31.5 draw length 65 pounds pull Day Six arrows ✌🏻👍🇺🇸
I had a set up off so far that when I shot a bare shaft the arrow snapped haha. This is one of my must do to tune my bow now. That and walk back turning. If I get those two things just about perfect and I get my ezv lined up right.. I cant shoot the same target twice or I'll blow my arrows up out to 50 yards.
Love having a golf bag...490,714, and the big boy....
I love you guys, keep it up
Love you too 😘
@@TheHuntingPublic whoa...no kissing
Great video!
I used a similar arrow for my 28/60 bow. Worked like a champ. I did use Quickfletch, which unfortunately at 50 gr total weight, kept my FOC at 13%. Blazers or feathers would have kept the FOC higher.
Man do I love Magnus broadheads haha
Great stuff guys! Troy, can I do the same tuning with a 20" crossbow bolt? Rehabbing a shoulder this year so the bow is in the rack. Just curious... Thanks for sharing, can't wait to see Ted's hunt!
At what point would you knock tune the arrows? Or would you with them shooting that consistent?
This is an amazing video holy shit.. thanks for demystify 20 years of confusion for me.
Great trip/video THP. Another of the little known guys. Ranch Fairy seemed a little off tune when I first saw him. Now that he's slowed it down a bit. the guy makes perfect sense. Pays to do your homework. Going to switch it up. You guys are bringing it. Thx
After bare shaft tuning with the ranch fairy test kit, wouldn't adding fletches throw off the FOC balance? And therefore cause vertical tears? Should more weight be added up front to account for the fletch weight in the back?
Good video. Would've liked to see a slow motion of the final arrow setup to see if there was less arrow wobble.
Just out of curiosity, what kind of vanes are y’all using?
What about the sweet spot for a 30 inch draw at 65 lbs? Should I start with 300 spine and 225 gr insert/tip?
Thats a Whisker Biscuit!
Love this stuff. I've had so many broken arrows with low penetration. Mostly dead deer but this stuff makes alotta sense
Sounds like that Texas humidity’s getting to Jake a little bit. At least you know the microphone works. 👍🏼😂
What type of fletching jig does the Fairy use that he gets that type of helical?
I currently have the goat tough jig and it only does this like a slight healing maybe one or two I think nothing like that what does he use?
Were any adjustments made to the rest position between shots? Or was the correction just the effect of changing arrows? Thanks
Did Ted do a knock tune and insert tune before doing the shooting tests??
If your arrow isn’t hitting straight with a bare shaft how do you fix that? Do you have to get heavier arrows or add weight to the front of the arrow for foc?
Happy 5th of the 4th fellas
God bless America
Is indexing your broadheads necessary once you have went through this process?
I also torque tune on top of all the bareshafting and playing with point weight. And I think that is a neccecary step to help increase the level of perfect flight even a little bit further personally. What do you think Troy?
I shoot a recurve 48 and a half pounds 28 inch arrows any recommendations looking to increase FOC .?
I like the mouthbreathing SFX
What do you recommend for a 70 pound bow with a 29 inch arrow?
How far were the shots taken from, thought i heard 10 yards. Awesome video
Would you recomment the same arrow for a 70lb draw at 28 inches?