He could have fought for more but by the time he finished fighting he might end up seeing less go into his pocket. It's a risk-reward issue. You can have $400k now with few legal fees or you can chance it in court for more where the legal fees will likely eat up more of the money giving you less money to pocket in the end. Also, depending on the laws, because the city made an offer it may limit how much the final award can be.
As a kid I was arrested for dui. The cop hauled me in. I blew into the machine and got a 0.06 - 0.04. The limit was 0.10 in those days. I was still charged. When it went to court, the cop said that even though I was under the legal limit in his opinion, I still had too much to drive safely. The judge found me guilty of dui even though I wasn't legally drunk. That "legal limit" doesn't mean jack sh!t, it's all about the thousands of dollars in fine money.
Criminal liability that is also automatically higher because they're police officers. A jaywalking cop should be looking at a few days jail time and several years of salary in fines. Scale up from there.
So you're saying that the taxpayers, who were innocent of any wrongdoing, should not be liable to pay for the officer's misdeeds. Instead you desire that every other officer and their families, also taxpayers and who have not been found guilty of any wrongdoing, should pay for the officer's misdeeds? How about this instead: the city initially pays the victim - and of course the funds come from the taxpayers. Then the city indemnifies itself against the officer - even if that officer has quit the job - by filing suing the officer to recover the entire cost of the original law suit?
Policing for profit, what else do you expect when the Prison system is for profit with lobbyists to fill cells to maximum capacity, same with public utilities of all kinds. Festering corruption, no accountability, zero transparency.
Let’s be honest , cops are the largest and longest reigning criminal organization in this country . This is what happens when prisons are privatized. They have to keep the jails full.
Not to mention the baloney of cops becoming "certified [substance] experts" and then the VAST majority of their post-pull-over arrests seem to magically and reliably find the certified [substance] on the driver, a passenger, or somewhere in the car (and sometimes planted there).
It's hard to clean up after something like this. I had a friend in the military who was falsely accused of rape by a girlfriend who he had an argument with - months after the fact. The military and multiple local police jurisdictions all investigated him for 2 to 3 years and they never closed out the investigation. Even when the cops told him in interviews, there's nothing here and it's going nowhere, it remained in the "COPS" database whatever that is for years. He lost his security clearance for a while and had to retire early from the military because he was treated like a liability and character flawed officer. Even today he has to explain the arrest 15 years later.
Agreed. Unfortunately they are there for life and can keep you out of certain jobs even if you were wrongly arrested. "Innocent until proven guilty" has as many holes as Swiss cheese.
@@deidrabrey4043 I was falsely arrested for assault and although the case was dismissed it still haunts me almost 2 decades later. Once there is an arrest it goes to multiple data bases and is practically impossible to erase. What's really bad is that most people treat an arrest record as though one had been convicted. Any action such as job applications or even mortgage applications that do a background check will uncover the record. It carries a stigma for the rest of the persons life.
As far as I know the charges have to be dismissed without prejudice? Even then I think the person still has to petition the court and have a court hearing to have the record expunged. I am not a lawyer so don't quote me on that. But that is how I understand it. Maybe Steve could weigh in on that and either confirm or correct me on that.
along with 10 or so more cases by the same lying cop....he'd established a pattern of false arrests, lying on official statements, perjury, and in general douchebaggery......
Or at the very least, it should be treated the same as a test refusal by a DUI suspect in that the resignation should be admissible as evidence of guilt.
You should be able to sue individual police officers for slander, false accusations, and wrongful detention. A police officer saying something in a court of law, without evidence, should not be admissable.
agreed... an officer should have to put their own ass on the line if they make the decision to take someone to jail.. especially without one lick of evidence
Officer committed a felony by swearing a false official statement. Where is the accountability? What minorities have always seen. Now Caucasians are seeing it for themselves.
Yep. Having the PD or city or some other entity pay out sums, whilst the offender keeps his job, is offensive. OTOH, anyone testifying in any court _is_ evidence.
Pilots, CDL holders (truck drivers, bus drivers, ect) and members of the military can have their careers permanently ended from a single DUI. This is completely unacceptable.
When you cost your city $400k, he will pay for it. Maybe not to the extent that he should, but most cops are good people who just want to help. Bad cops don't always get weeded out, but they often do as long as their leadership is good. Just like ANY occupation, there are bad people everywhere.
@@stevepreskitt283these lawyers should start adding malicious prosecution to these lawsuits. It's very obvious that this cop was using his position to punish the innocent driver for personal gratification. The bogus charges were meant to cause damages, financial, mental and emotional to the driver and his future standing in society.
Ethanol based hand sanitizer because way more popular for some reason in the time frame of 2020-2022. Normally hand sanitizer is IPA, isopropyl alcohol, which has one distinct scent, but ethanal hand sanitizer also is effective but it smells like a gin and tonic. So if this guy nervously cleaned his hands, the smell of ethanol would have been in the air.
I like how Steve mentions pilots. Pilots are subject to the FAA pilots records database that records all their training, reviews, incidents, ect. because we hold pilots to a higher standard. Why don't we have the equivalent for these crooked cops?
When a police officer claims he smells a strong odor of alcohol and his suspect shows no trace of alcohol, by the process of elimination, it must be the officer that was the source of the odor. As a result, by his own word, he should have been arrested for DWI. Unfortunately, it is the taxpayers who are paying for the officer's dishonesty.
That likely won't happen, but that officer's "experience and training" that he'll claim when testilying can be legitimately called into question by every defense attorney in the area from now until forever. It won't be any kind of legal precedent, but every time he takes the stand in a DUI case he should be asked, "has your experience and training ever led you to detect an odor of alcohol in any case where the defendant was proven to not have had alcohol in their system?" Either answer will work to demonstrate that his testimony can't be relied on, and if he says "no", the defense can absolutely tear him a new one.
@@TyroRNG No, things like Civil Asset Forfeiture is their "Get out of jail free card" for seizures. They can, literally, take ALL your cash, and even take your car, your wallet, your watch, everything you own, from you, and good luck on getting it back. And all they have to do is say "Well, we think you're going to use it for a crime" or "we think you got it by committing a crime", and that's all they have to say and good luck on getting it back. Say you saved up for YEARS and bought yourself a nice red sports car. You'd just bought it at the dealership, you had the plate and everything. And you're just driving home when a cop decides he / she likes your car and wants it for themselves. All they have to do is pull you over, claim you stole it / you used stolen money for it / you used drug money for it or whatever excuse they want to make, kick you out of your brand new car and tow it away. And you'll NEVER get it back. Not without spending tens of thousands of dollars on lawyers fees. More than you spent on the car. While they have all the money in the world thanks to tax payer money being used. So the car you worked, saved, scraped and scrimped to pay for, is ripped out from under you, all because a cop decides THEY want the car and have decided you don't deserve to have one, and all they have to do is use civil asset forfeiture to do it. And they don't even have to charge you with a crime, either.
Your logic is impeccable! It's a shame that towns and cities are actually controlled by police unions. I live in a city where the mayor and councilmembers are afraid of the police union and its president. It's like the Godfather novel.
Mind you, Loveland is the same police department that tackled a 73 year old Karen Garner with sensory aphasia to the ground twice, dislocated her shoulder, celebrated it all while watching it back, had her cuffed to a bench for hours without medical treatment, and then tried to alter or erase the footage. All this over her forgetting to pay for $13 worth of goods at a Walmart (when Walmart caught it she offered her card to pay and was refused and the items taken forcefully from her). There are now criminal charges against the two officers involved and she got a substantial settlement.
They also assaulted a man who refused to id when they claimed he was a witness to a motorcycle accident and also beat up,tased and arrested a father and daughter and choked their dog,Loveland is an out of control PD and should be investigated at federal level.
Fort Collins and other nearby departments are facing more lawsuits from these practices. A female lawyer has an entire practice suing Colorado departments because they are so incompetent and corrupt. She is doing quite well for herself and her clients.
Hell, this isn't Steve's first video about Fort Collins. One guy who got arrested there ended up spending a year in jail waiting for his court date on DUI charges despite his breath and blood tests coming back clear.
Yes she is. Sarah is brave enough to go after these fu kkers and has now won many payouts for victims of Loveland PD. New chief, same problems. He came from Fort Collins! 🤦♀️
@@alanrogs3990 I don't live in the State, but I'm scared everytime I visit. I try not to drive in Aurora. The cops just seem dumb, and intimidating.🤔🤔🤔
MADD started of as a good idea, stop drunk drivers from killing their kids. But early on MADD promulgated a police culture of everyone is a drunk driver and must be punished. Even if you are not drunk, they don't care. Back when MADD started, I supported them, for less than a year when I saw what was happening.
Is a cop resigns during an internal investigation, it should simply immediately become a criminal investigation. Hand it over to the DoJ, and have them investigate.
It's absolutely ridiculous that Police officers can just resign and avoid being investigated. If they suspected a citizen of committing a crime (which it seems this was), they'd definitely have no problem investigating them.
Cops don't resign in order to avoid being investigated. They resign so they can keep their pension they've accrued at the time of their resignation. If they're fired, they lose their pension.
Yeah that does seem wrong. Although, legally it’s hard to prove the officer did anything wrong. That measure is based on the officer BELIEVING he has probable cause for an arrest. It’s tough to prove someone didn’t believe something.
Actually, a resignation or retirement can be denied. Almost always it is reported as, "the Officers resigned" or "retired", when the Headline should be "the Officer was ALLOWED to resign to avoid disciplinary actions and keep a clean record and retain full pension and benefits". But... It is the decision for the Chief, Sheriff, or Mayor (depending on jurisdiction) to allow a resignation or deny it (and subsequently terminate the employment on disciplinary grounds). And the sad thing is, that they have a personal incentive to allow the resignation, in order to make an embarrassing case go away. "Tough on Crime", except for mine... I personally think, there should be a duty to investigate and a hold on resignation, with automatic suspension, until the investigation is finished. And there should also be Command Responsibility, meaning superior are by default responsible for the actions of their underlings, unless they do something about it. And poor leadership should also be sactioned... poor leadership meaning to allowing underlings to conduct themselves unprofessionally (aggressive, foulmouthed, disrespectful... not quite criminal, yet, but certainly unbecoming of an officer of the law).
Hate when replying to a comment, and then the video ends with a commercial and tap to shut it off, I lose my reply. Now for my reply if I can remember it. I wish that officers who do this would face jail time, but I am satisfied that he is no longer a police officer. But, the investigation should still continue, and that police officer can not just go to the next county and be an officer there. But this problem should have been cleared up before the driver was even checked into jail. A 0.00 means the officer was mistaken (not that I believe that) and the secondary check at the police station should be the end of the story (other that a rotten apple in the police force). So the procedure at that station should also be looked into.
@@michaelgarrison688 : Though, that is the problem with being Allowed to resign. They'll soon be rehired in the neighbouring county, with a clean disciplinary record.
It's funny how pilots being held to a higher standard makes it so their punishments are worse, where police being held to a higher standard makes their punishments either lesser or non-existent.
I was falsely arrested for DUI 3 times, all by the same cop who had promised to ruin me because I refused to rat out a buddy with whom he had a personal beef. They were all dismissed, and a judge finally made it stop, but it still had a profound impact on my life when I could no longer pass security clearances and had to change careers for the worse. Interestingly, they told me they “didn’t pander to drunkards” and even made it clear that they didn’t care whether or not I was guilty, only that I had been arrested. And I didn’t get a dime for my trouble.
@@ClickClack_Bam I didn't sue, because I was in high school and It wasn't my decision. However, I was so innocent I didn't need a lawyer to have them all thrown completely out of court, {"nolle processed" was the official term they used, and "Like it never happened" is how they described it at the time) The point of my comment is that ANY arrest - even a false one brought about by police misconduct and corrption that gets thrown out - will stay with you forever and can have a negative impact on your life. And anyone who thinks otherwise has never undergone a Federal background check. They are performed by the FBI {ie just another cop). They dislike lawyers and don't care who yours was, nor what was the outcome of it all. You can plead your case for being innocent, but they don't even want to hear it. In the end, the fact that you were arrested by another in their profession and for what is all that will determine your fate.
I am an Uber driver. I got a DUI while being completely sober. My rider was the one reeking of alcohol as common sense should dictate. It took 7 months for TBI to process my blood alcohol rate which came back at .000. So, then, the D.A. decides to spring for a toxicology report which WILL come back .000. My next move is to sue and use discovery to exploit the fact that my city does fake DUIs all the time! I have a journalism degree and know how to drop news stories. “Uber driver gets Fake DUI” is clickbait. Rather than go through internal affairs, I am going to leverage publicity by threatening their community relations that conducts PR and reports directly to the chief. They know the viability and reputation damages the city will face. Good times!
Publicity has been shown to be more expedient at getting things fixed than the justice system, sadly. But the real question is will it actually fix the problem? Will anyone be held accountable?
@@Ayverie4 It leads to higher dollar settlements. This, agitates the insurers who take it up with the chief. Lost dollars then result in pressure on police to toe the line and behave. This, in a roundabout way does help.
I saw the video of this arrest and, to me, the officer was triggered and became condescending and hostile when the accused was presented with medical release forms for the blood draw. He requested to be able to read the legal document he was expected to sign. He refused to consent to the draw until he had the opportunity to read the legal release. That is when the officer said "I don't have time for this." and went into arrest mode.
I saw the same video, and I was thinking to myself. Let the guy read the thing, but the cop just didn’t have any patience at that point. I wonder how the cop would feel it was his daughter being spoken to like that “sign this piece of paper you don’t need to read it”. When, in fact, his livelihood depended on it.
"I don't have time for this." Ruinous legacy of William Parker, LAPD, and Sgt. Joe Friday / Jack Webb. Parker believed fewer but better trained officers meant less corruption. While that may or may not be true, it does make the officers incredibly inpatient.
That's actually a crime... at the very least it's Deprivation of Rights under the Color of Law (1st and 14th Amendment Violations... retaliation agaist speech and due process) and Violation of Oath of Office.
Saw the body cam of this arrest on LackLuster, pretty screwed that a single cop can hold so much power over a person just because he says he smells something. I'm glad he won a settlement, but it needs to start coming from police pension funds, not the taxpayer.
The police only have to say they smelled alcohol or pot. You cannot prove they didn't or that they flat out lied about it unless you catch them saying so on camera or a recording. I heard the searches because of pot has a case law that's overturned but with medical it should be. Preventing breaking the fourth. And searching the cars there are bad actors that have been caught planting pot. Was on the video
Shame on officers who can put someone's livelihood in jeopardy for kicks. Wasn't there also that case where officers flipped a coin to see if they'd ticket or detain a driver? Will they still claim overwhelmkng smell of alcohol if they were on the hook for 400k dollars of their own money? There would be zero stories like these if that were the case, I'm sure.
@saldiven2009 is that upon conviction of DUI, or upon arrest? In this case, the guy was accused of DUI & arrested but never convicted. Until watching this video, I was unaware that FAA took any action at all when a person is arrested for DUI (as opposed to being found guilty)
Best solution is to have the blood test come back within two days. Negative on blood test then the arrest for DUI should be expunged. Waiting months on it is ridiculous, and I hope to Courts will rule eventually that it is unconstitutional.
@@julianbrelsford It's hard to say. The FAA regulation (FAR 61-15(c)) is annoyingly vague on whether or not a conviction is required to qualify as a "motor vehicle action" under their statute. It would make sense that a conviction would be necessary, but maybe it's vague enough to allow them to include various plea agreements that do not equate to conviction? I honestly don't know. But, the point is that bogus DUI arrests can have very significant impact upon an innocent person. The pilot license thing is just one example.
This needs to be a 7-8 figure settlement, $400,000 not nearly enough to force change. Police officers need to carry personal liability insurance for their actions. They could quit all they want but insurance companies wouldn’t keep insuring them and they wouldn’t be re-hirable.
Stories like this really piss me off. I do pest control for a living so if I get a DUI I lose my job just to hear the officer involved faces next to no punishment. This whole resigning thing needs to be looked at differently.
One of the important things to take from this case is that the Chief said the officer did nothing wrong and fully backed him up. Throughout the entire investigation the Chief never fired or even reprimanded him.
The department hid the officer’s name. This is supremely problematic, as *_We The People_* have no clue, if they are still out there employed by a different department.
To hell with all these lawsuits. Especially when they use the people's money, as a band-aid for _Acts of Tyranny_ . Why aren't the individuals be held accountable and dealt with accordingly??? This is DEAD WRONG, on so many levels... "Never before was wilful ignorance considered a virtue." Enough!
To add insult to injury, they settle with taxpayer funds and admit no liability. Law enforcement need to start carrying their own liability insurance like doctors so we aren't paying for their abuse of authority.
I LIVE IN COLORADO, AND THIS HAS BEEN ALL OVER THE NEWS. The cop who arrested this guy has a record of these false arrests. At least 4 other people were also arrested recently by the dirty cop. Yes, he resigned, but other Police departments learned the victims name, and likely targeted him to arrest him again on false DUI.
Maybe that is why he got arrested the second time in Ft..Collins, retaliation by the neighboring police department. These police departments need to be charged with conspiracy and RICO...
Probably the guys license plate had him in the system as a DUI offender. So other departments are running the plate and then pull him over for no reason.
Utah Trooper, Lisa Steed, made a career out of false DUI charges. She'd simply lie and say the person failed the failed sobriety, convince the person to voluntarily take a blood test at the station (to clear them of charges), then use any residual thc or prescription still left in a person's system would be evidence to support the charges. I believe one person charged and convicted had residual "drugs" in their system from a surgery they had over twenty days prior; from a doctor administered anesthesia. Lisa Steed was given honors and awards for her criminality before eventually leaving the force.
The Supreme Court needs to dissolve qualified immunity and have each officers take out their own personal liability insurance, its very unfair for taxpayers to flip the bill for corrupt cop's arrogance and stupidity.
In the late 90s the county chapter of MADD offered $50 for every dui arrest. During that time I was stopped 15 times in one town when I was coming home from visiting my daughter around 10 pm. They made me do a field sobriety test and blow every time. I finally went to the city offices to complain and the chief of police actually told me what do you expect they’re just trying to make some extra money. I told him I was going to the next council meeting to complain if it happened again and was never stopped again.
" They made me do a field sobriety test " There is no place in the country that the police can force you to do those tests. Never do them, always say no. They are designed to make you fail.
Regarding officers "detecting" the smell of alcohol or marijuana, one time I was camping at Chaco Canyon National Historical Park, and some Ranger "investigated" the site next to mine, claiming he smelled marijuana. They were smoking a stogie (tobacco cigar). Really builds one's faith in their ability to smell correctly.
This isn’t about a DUI but when I was in the Navy I learned first hand that police departments do in fact have quotas for how many ticket they write. Back in September of 95 I was stationed in Norfolk (the Little Creek base) and we had just gotten back from our Med Cruise. While we were on our cruise I was able to renew registration it obviously I couldn’t update my inspection. When I went to pick up my car from the storage lot I put my registration stickers on before I left & was headed to get my inspection. No sooner than Han I made a right turn pulling out I got pulled over. From where he was coming from the ONLY way he could’ve seen my inspection sticker was when he walked up to my window. Even after explaining to him that we just got back from our Med Cruise, having a newspaper in my car with all the ships that came back & showing him my military ID that had a sticker with my ships name on it he still tried to say I was lying & told me to take it to court. When I told my NCO he was just as pissed as I was & told me to go ahead & fight it. In court the judge turned to him & asked the officer why he wrote me the ticket then dismissed it. I realize that technically the ticket was legit but it was the end of the month & EVERYONE in the Hampton Roads area knows when ships come back from& leave for major deployments so he was purposely waiting for people to come pickup their vehicles so he could meet his quota.
I remember this story. At first when the local news did the story the police chief came out and said that when a DUI arrest is made and it turns out the guy wasn’t under the influence the police dept looks at the cops camera and goes over what was done wrong and fix it so it doesn’t happen again. Turns out this particular cop had 8 dui arrests that were proven to be wrong. And it was a big deal for these guys that were wrongly arrested Like one guy had his pick up towed and he didn’t have the money to get it out and lost his job over it. Another man didn’t have the money for bail and sat in jail for 90 days Now the police chief wasn’t available for comment
90 days? Fark. Life ruined, set back by years because some cop had a "feeling". That's going to screw you up. How do you make that right? Can any amount of money make that right?
Think about it. Even if you win you lose. Cost you impound that's not refunded. Court costs. Loss of work. Layer or public defender fees. Being targeted from now on since the arrests still shows in the system. Think this guys second arrest in neighbor town wasn't connected. Cop gets a trophy and department gets money. I am against drunk driving but false DUI charges need consequences for policemen. Most will not apologize for wrongful arrests. One guy said on her the state took over 6 months to get blood tests back showing no substance or alcohol. Meanwhile his DL was affected.
My son has had 3 DUI's in 3 years. One while walking on the side of the road was called public drunk. He took the test on the police portable breathalyzer and all were 0.0 so they changed the charges to DUI to other. He ask for the alternate blood test. He was told that they didn't have that test in that county because the hospital was closed down but they could take him to another hospital at my son's expense for transportation and the cost of the blood test. Just over $2,500 total cost plus he would have to wait until he could see a judge in 3 days while staying in jail. He pled guilty and the police DEPARTMENT'S told him when he was to be in court and released him within 1 hour a let him drive home. His fine was $1,450 plus going to DUI school for $300 more. I think they're just doing this because most people cannot afford to pay for a good lawyer and they know it. By the way this is small towns in Mississippi.
So true. I think most cops play the odds. 60% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. These people can’t afford to have their cars towed. Pay impound fees let alone hire an attorney
Steve, you would not believe the incompetence of the Loveland police department. Seems like every few weeks there is a big news story about this department's wrongdoings. Policing has become a joke and the American citizens are the punchline.
This happend about the same time they broke an elderly woman with alshimer shoulder then laughed showing the bodycam to others in the station. Which was also on camera. Oh yeah the woman was in a holding cell being refused medical treatment while they laughed at how her shoulder "popped" in the video
Must be something about that area of Colorado. Loveland is like 25 miles from Fort Lupton. Fort Lupton is where the police handcuffed that girl and put her in the back of a patrol car parked on train tracks. Car was then hit by a train with her locked in it in handcuffs.
I’ve wondered about this… can a class action lawsuit be filed against the city by the taxpayers who had to foot the bill? The 93 cents each taxpayer gets back isn’t the point; the point would be making the city pay TWICE and the legal precedent it might set. If enough cities were to get sued for this they would force cops to get liability insurance real quick.
@@ElectronicsGuy666 Only way is to have them vote out the mayor and police chief, and get ones who stand on a platform of not having these abuses of power.
@@danwells9525 It always seems to me that if people really paid attention to what happens within their local governments that costs them money, they would be inclined to get rid of the bad apples in their city / county/ etc, officials.
Internal affairs should be allowed to complete an investigated whether or not a cop resigns, and in fact, legally compelled to continue the investigation on count of suspicion.
The big problem here is that, while a conviction record can be cleared, an arrest record cannot be cleared. There are many situations where they look at your arrest record, not your conviction record: For example, if you go through a security clearance investigation in the US, or if you cross the border from the US to Canada, they look at your arrest record -- if they have time to do the investigations properly, they will eventually find the truth; if they do not have time to do the investigations properly, you could end up being denied a job that requires a security clearance or being denied entry to Canada because you were incorrectly arrested.
Truth, worked investigations for awhile and was the guy that ran everything through NCIC. Policy and procedure was a god damn joke, basically deny deny deny for any and every little reason. Others did not even bother to check if there were actual convictions, if they saw the arrest record, someone got denied.
Yeah, which is what happened to the victim. His pilots license was suspended. Ergo, his ability to do his job was put on hold All so a dirty cop could earn his points in a cruel game against innocent people.
I got pulled over by Colorado highway patrol, when he saw my license with a CDL he said "oh you have a CDL" I responded "yes it is called the license of discrimination"--- he agreed no ticket no warning.....
Pilots are limited to .04 which is half of the level in most states now. A single beer 4 hours before takeoff will make them fail. Most won't touch alcohol for 12 hours before a flight.
@michaelwilkening8542 In most states it's the same for those of us with a CDL when in our personal vehicles. When driving a commercial vehicle, most states say that anything above 0.00 is a DWI or DUI. Oh, and if there is an alcohol container potentially within our reach, or the reach of a passenger that can hand it to us, of any vehicle we are driving it's an automatic DWI/DUI, no testing required and a test showing a 0.00 doesn't exonerate us either.
Loveland PD has been in the news before for some pretty reprehensible stuff coming from their deputies. Two of their cops went to prison over a violent arrest of a grandmother with dementia, she'd apparently forgotten to pay for a few items at Walmart, but relinquished the merchandise when confronted by employees. She then started to walk home but was stopped by police, they didn't particularly like it when she didn't instantly comply with their demands.. so they broke her wrist and dislocated her shoulder before stuffing her into a police cruiser and hauling her off to jail. She was made to sit handcuffed to a bench inside a cell for hours while the two arresting officers reviewed the bodycam footage and laughed.
Four years to get justice for fake DUI arrest is far too long. The bonus prize with the settlement should be the lifetime suspension of the cops policing certificate.
Isn't it the same kid that the cops are trying to counter sue for putting the video on youtube of the cop arresting him for dui after eventually blowing zero ?
@@greg5639 Yup, they are. Reminds me of Afroman being sued for making fun of cops that raided his house. He humiliated them, so they are suing him. Thats a great story btw
@@jtr82369 - The lawsuit was for defamation because the student made a potentially inaccurate statement about a domestic violence accusation. The kid should have just kept the video to the facts he knew.
Fun fact , the first time I was pulled over, it was early in the morning after St. Patrick's day. I was on my way to work , and had a car zoom up behind me with their brights on. He rode my tail VERY close while zigging back and forth like he wanted to race or something. I speed up to get some distance between us , and as soon as I hit 10 mph over the speed limit , he dropped back , turned off the brights , and turned on the blues and reds. I pulled over , and officer McDipstick was surprised to find a stone cold sober late '20's guy going to work. So he told me I was " Lucky " and gave me a warning. And cops wonder why they are hated.
i had a cop try pull that shit on me, luckily for me i have front and rear dashcams, unluckily for me, in my country you cant sue, but also luckily for me, our entire countries police force are all under one banner, if you get fired from one town you cant simply move to another and get a job with them, you are black listed, and yes, i wasn't the only one the he had done this to, i was just the first with the evidence that proved what he was doing, and you know what they say about "beyond reasonable doubt" yeah, when an officer here is proven to have lied under oath, EVERY case that officer was responsible for has to be reopened, reinvestigated, and gone over with a fine tooth comb, otherwise lawyer's can simply point out: "the officer was a proven Lier, how do you know he didn't lie about my client" and there is your reasonable doubt.....
This sounds exactly like something my buddy went through. He was leaving work (he worked at a bar) and the cop did the exact same thing, and he did the exact same thing you did.
He should sue the DUI advocate group who provided the incentives for that police dept. as well. their incentives spurred the cop to falsely arrest people for DUI
In my state I think they should do this everywhere but in my state it is not legal for a police officer to resign his position. While under investigation he can quit after the investigation's over with, but until then he has to stay employed at the department and he cannot resign until the investigation is over. This prevents them from quitting and then investigation ending and then going to another department fresh and new with no investigation outcome. I think they should do this with every state
The investigation should be of the incident that happened regardless of what his current profession is or isn't. If you commit a crime, you can't go and say, "I resigned from being a criminal so you cannot prosecute me." That's Bullarky. Resignation should only mean they are not getting paid while being investigated. They should still have to show up to the court and depositions and tesify about what they did WHILE on the job and What they DID at the stop, WHILE they were a cop. The Past has already happenned , people should not be immune from what they have done just because they changed jobs.
@@Metqa yeah the investigation should continue but when they quit the investigation ends or at least every time I've ever seen it. And the only thing I can understand about it is that they're investigating whether or not wrong doing was done. But since they no longer work there they're not going to continue because there's nothing they can do. They can't fire him and they're not going to bring charges against them. That's why I like what my state does and makes them tell them they have to stay working. They can't quit until the investigation is over with
This happened to me about 10 years ago while riding my motorcycle thru a small town early in the morning. Officer said I failed 3of6 dui tests and made me blow into breath analyzer. I knew he was full of shit about me failing his sobriety tests because I knew I hadn’t been drinking. Blew 0.0 and he still wanted to arrest me. I basically talked my way out of being arrested by begging. I feel totally wronged now and wish I had just let them arrest me and not tried so hard to prevent the arrest. I also had no drugs in my system. Didn’t have any money at the time so I wouldn’t be able to hire a lawyer then.
I used to work swing shift so I was coming home at around 2 am most nights and I’ve been stopped multiple times where the cop lies and claims he smells alcohol just so he can pull me out of the car. Fortunately I’ve never been arrested but it always rubbed the wrong way. The cop and I both know he’s lying but there’s no way to prove it.
I used to be a member of a singing group that met upstairs over a bar. I'd be leaving there about 11 pm on rehearsal nights. Got pulled over a few times. Makes sense- I was coming out of a bar late on a weeknight. Never got pulled for FTSs though.
The system we have created is ripe for abuse, it amazes me that it hasn't been exploited yet: What is stopping police from falsely arresting someone they are in a secret agreement with and sharing the payout the person will get? There is absolutely no risk to the officer as long as the scam isn't exposed. The officer in a worst case scenario can just go to the next department and run the same setup again. With hundreds of thousands of $ and no risk it is surprising that this isn't commonplace behavior.
Probably because you would need to trust somebody quite well to do this and that level of trust does not exist without an easily uncovered history. Meetings, calls, GPS logs, messages, social media, and more. While certainly not impossible to pull off, they both would face real jail time for what is unlikely to be a life-altering payout.
I represent cops for a living. I have seen the footage (if this is the one where he scolds the cop at the end). You are correct. These aren't "rookie mistakes". These are "culture of arrogance and dishonesty" intentional misdeeds. Someone trained these officers that they can do this, if they do it this way.
In many cases, that's true. not all. Some are bullies who lie undetected in those areas that lack psych screening as part of the hiring process. Some are trained to be that way, in areas with a toxic institutional culture. It is tough to believe that there are places in the USA where this kinda crap is rare or absent, if you live in an area where it is often encountered. I personally was trained very differently from the officers shown here. "Never arrest when you can summons, never summons where you can warn, if that lower level of enforcement is very likely to accomplish all yu need to accomplish."@@toomuch3864
In the police academy, cops are taught to be calloused and brutish. So they basically become like criminals/ gangsters. Their motto: "To catch a wolf you have to be a wolf" also happens to be famous line in "Training day"
Have you ever attended or taught at a police academy? I have done both, in one state. Maybe there are places where this is / recently was true. Not so much around here.@@dmoriasi
You were quite generous to not mention the involvement of MADD (monsters against drunk driving) in the DUI competitions because their hands are DEFINITELY dirty in these false accusations across the US.
Yup, this is abuse of power. In the military I worked for a three star with a reputation for abuse of power. She would target people and have her cronies create tension in the ranks of one of her own subordinate units to give her pretext for initiating an investigation. She often told her inside circle, "9 out of 10 times we'll find something we can hang them with and even if we don't we suspend them from their leadership position during the investigation and the world will think they got fired so they're screwed either way." The problem is it is so difficult to catch these power abusers in the act. They are really good at using pretext, plausible denial and the word of their co-conspirators and loyal followers. I am glad this pilot stuck to his guns and did not fold. I know I have always said I would not submit to questioning when pulled over but have always caved. Thankfully the cops that pulled me over for minor traffic violations or just random checks have always been stellar individuals.
deidrabrey4043, Thank you for your service. We have dark triad individuals like your 3 star in ever greater percentages the higher one goes up the food chain. Those cops who pulled you over are the norm in police departments everywhere. The bad apples like the ones in this video are the exception.
Just being arrested for anything, even if you’re released and not charged, can have serious consequences. In some professions, you can be fired just for being arrested and nothing else. My dad had security clearance and was always very careful because his clearance could be revoked if he was ever arrested. And that would’ve cost him not only his job but his entire career.
Arrested not charged. Only time I have ever been introuble and now I have a record that I have tried to remove / seal but even that process is built in a way to keep you in the system.
We have seen countless examples of cops treating military members poorly. So the risk of losing your clearance or job is definitely there, even when you've done nothing wrong.
Of course it was Loveland. The same place that broke the arm of Karen Garner and shot that dog seconds after exiting the car. This department needs to defunded and abolished.
Normally, I wouldn't wish Federal oversight on anyone.... but Loveland PD? Yeah, let the punishment fit the crime. That pilot had Federal oversight, lost his job, had micro managing paper pushing a$$holes *allllll* up in his business; it's only fair the police should enjoy the same.
This happens way too much. Field sobriety test can be interpreted in any way and 9 times out of ten you are already guilty before the test is given. The test is just a formality to justify a arrest if the really want to.
You can refuse it all buy the time they get a warrant you might not be drunk If you are accus of DUI and not drinking refuse everything but the blood test the doctor can tell if there is anything in your blood but not how much it is
This had also happened to a college athlete on scholarship earlier this year, pretty sure in the same region. Initial stop was for driving in city limit with his high beams (which he did because a headlight was out) then falsely accused and arrested for DUI, claiming smell of alcohol or weed, even after blowing 0.0 there on the spot. Officer said something about not playing that game and that he can tell the student is on something, even makes a boastful prideful comment about how this is something he enjoys, recognizing when someone is on something. Kid came back completely clean, after having his scholarship put at risk.
Same thing happened to me years ago. I was arrested and spent a night in jail for being drunk when I was 100% sober. Wished I had know I could have gotten a large compensation from it.
I remember seeing the body cam for this one. Vicious retaliation for the man trying to uphold his rights during the arrest. Glad to see he won and hopefully he gets his life returned to normal after the FAA investigated him.
I got a DUI in Michigan when I wasnt even driving. This happens far more often than you think. They try to get yoy a 2nd time while the first charge is pending because there's a presumption that you're guilty so they can make up whatever insane story they want.
The fact that an officer can legally lie to a citizen, makes anything they say suspect. In court - It is legal for you to lie during an investigation, did you actually smell alcohol? "No", Were you lying to the citizen? "Yes", Are you lying now? "No" How do we know?
Also what is up with Loveland police. They seem to be in the news alot for unlawful activities. Karen Gardner comes to mind along with a few more high profile cases
I have a worker that works for me and he has a slow, almost slurred speech on a daily basis. One of my best workers and never touches alcohol but it always terrifies me he will be convicted one day of a dui he did not commit. My sympathy's go out to the gentleman that had it happen twice to him.
This police department should be shut down. Theyve done this same offense repeatedly. Just two years ago another man won 299000 dollar settlement against them. I doubt the cityvisbpaying these victims anything even after losing lawsuits.
This reminds me of the video of the sassy kid that "failed" the field sobriety test but immediately blew 0.0. The cop brought him in for a blood test anyway. They must have had an onsite lab as the results came back the same night which of course were negative and all charges were dropped. The funniest part was that the kid went back to the cop to gently chastise him for arresting him.
Why is the city allowed to admit to no wrong doing after paying him out and clearly violating his rights? Why can’t they just apologize…so they realize how much an admission and apology would do for their image? So stupid.
I had a similar experience. When I was in University, I worked for the Edmonton Oilers selling beer (walking up and down the stands). Usually at the end of the night, I smelled like expensive cheap beer. I was still wearing my very distinctive uniform, and had my visor that said Beer $4.75 next to me. Pulled over, made to do a blow test, then taken out of the car and did a FST. Of course, I blew 0, and the FST wasn't really a challenge, but he still wanted to arrest me. It took a sergeant to point out to the constable that what I was saying was correct, "He sells the beer, he doesn't drink it".
We had a spate of this here, both in Loveland, where this case came from, and Fort Collins which borders Loveland. One officer in each city decided that it was better to arrest folks based on their gut feeling (and no other evidence) than to let a possibly intoxicated driver get away with it. I think there are at least 7 other lawsuits still pending represented by a lawyer who was astute enough to recognize what was going on, comb records for "no alcohol or drugs detected" lab results, and in some cases reach out to victims. In Colorado you are guilty until proven innocent in DUI cases, your DL immediately lifted, at least one guy who had his perhaps 10 year old son in the car when stopped was also charged with endangering and prohibited from some contacts with his son. It was some time before the lab results forced the DA to drop charges, but of course by then a LOT of damage had been done. Both officers, by the way, have resigned.
I wonder if an attorney could use the number of times that an officer said he smelled alcohol only to be proven wrong? As you said' you can't photograph a smell but if you repeatedly get proven that none was present wouldn't that be evidence that this officer cannot be relied on to smell alcohol ?
Resigning from the force should not stop the investigation. It should be completed anyways, and the resigning to avoid the investigation should be looked at as an admission of guilt and attempting to not be held accountable. I always hate how they pay people off but don't have any accountable.
How ignorant and arrogant does a cop have to be to arrest someone for DUI when they show zero objective evidence of impairment? These cops should be fired and never allowed to work in LE again.
Keep in mind that these games and incentives are often financed with MADD funding, where departments get paid incentives or bonuses for DUI's which has resulted in countless cases like this one. This is one of the reasons I will never donate a penny to MADD until this insanity stops.
From the state of Montana, where drunk driving is considered a sport, comes a true story. Recently a routine police patrol was parked outside a local neighborhood tavern. Late in the evening the officer noticed a man leaving the bar so intoxicated that he could barely walk. The man stumbled around the parking lot for a few minutes, with the officer quietly observing. After what seemed an eternity and trying his keys on five vehicles, the man managed to find his car, which he fell into. He was there for a few minutes as most of the other patrons left the bar and drove off. Finally, he started the car, switched the wipers on and off (it wasn't raining or snowing), flicked the indicators on and off, tooted the horn, and then switched on the lights. He moved the vehicle forward a few inches, reversed a little, and then remained stationary for a few more minutes as more patrons left in their vehicles. At last he pulled out of the parking lot and started to drive slowly down the road. The police officer, having patiently waited all this time, now started up the patrol car, put on the flashing lights, and promptly pulled the man over and carried out a breathalyzer test. To his amazement, the breathalyzer indicated no evidence of the man having consumed alcohol at all! Dumbfounded, the officer said "I'll have to ask you to accompany me to the police station. This breathalyzer equipment must be broken". "I doubt it", said the man. "Tonight I'm the designated decoy."
You are correct about the pilot license. When renewing your mecical (which is required to fly) there is a question about being arrested for any alcohol while driving not just convictions. "Have you EVER had any arrest(s) and/or conviction(s) involving driving while intoxicated by, while impaired by, or while under the influence of alcohol or a drug?"
A DUI on a pilot is a huge red flag. He should have gotten more than 400k!
You bet. About $4M or more for this garbage.
Agreed. The accusation alone places him in more than $400k worth of peril regarding his pilot license...could mean his entire career and livlihood.
He could have fought for more but by the time he finished fighting he might end up seeing less go into his pocket. It's a risk-reward issue. You can have $400k now with few legal fees or you can chance it in court for more where the legal fees will likely eat up more of the money giving you less money to pocket in the end. Also, depending on the laws, because the city made an offer it may limit how much the final award can be.
Yes! I am an Aviation Medical Examiner. A DUI triggers all kinds of problems for a pilot.
@@ianbelletti6241they made it financially impossible for most Americans to fight against their tyranny
Police officer resignation is not good enough. We have to have criminal liability.
He will be pulling over a child for walking home from school while drunk at some other department.
Can't hold cops responsible for their actions. They have qualified immunity that makes them above the law.
One with even less oversight@@MrGrandure
As a kid I was arrested for dui. The cop hauled me in. I blew into the machine and got a 0.06 - 0.04. The limit was 0.10 in those days. I was still charged. When it went to court, the cop said that even though I was under the legal limit in his opinion, I still had too much to drive safely. The judge found me guilty of dui even though I wasn't legally drunk. That "legal limit" doesn't mean jack sh!t, it's all about the thousands of dollars in fine money.
Criminal liability that is also automatically higher because they're police officers. A jaywalking cop should be looking at a few days jail time and several years of salary in fines. Scale up from there.
This should be paid directly from the police pension funds, not from the taxpayers.
Then they'd do nothing at all. Wouldn't risk a kicking from their colleagues for fuckin up.
@@capnskiddies that is not an option either. You don’t do your legitimate job and not abuse the citizens, you are FIRED!!
So you're saying that the taxpayers, who were innocent of any wrongdoing, should not be liable to pay for the officer's misdeeds. Instead you desire that every other officer and their families, also taxpayers and who have not been found guilty of any wrongdoing, should pay for the officer's misdeeds?
How about this instead: the city initially pays the victim - and of course the funds come from the taxpayers. Then the city indemnifies itself against the officer - even if that officer has quit the job - by filing suing the officer to recover the entire cost of the original law suit?
You'd think so, but that means the police entity in this country would be accountable - instead of corrupt how it is now.
@@johnny5.56 that’s the point
This is what happens when cops get incentives for arresting people for specific crimes.
There needs to be more openness about what incentives exist per police department.
Police departments get paid through a federal grant for DUI and drug arrests even if there is no conviction.
Policing for profit, what else do you expect when the Prison system is for profit with lobbyists to fill cells to maximum capacity, same with public utilities of all kinds. Festering corruption, no accountability, zero transparency.
Let’s be honest , cops are the largest and longest reigning criminal organization in this country . This is what happens when prisons are privatized. They have to keep the jails full.
Not to mention the baloney of cops becoming "certified [substance] experts" and then the VAST majority of their post-pull-over arrests seem to magically and reliably find the certified [substance] on the driver, a passenger, or somewhere in the car (and sometimes planted there).
Wrongful arrests should be automatically removed from a person’s record.
It's hard to clean up after something like this. I had a friend in the military who was falsely accused of rape by a girlfriend who he had an argument with - months after the fact. The military and multiple local police jurisdictions all investigated him for 2 to 3 years and they never closed out the investigation. Even when the cops told him in interviews, there's nothing here and it's going nowhere, it remained in the "COPS" database whatever that is for years. He lost his security clearance for a while and had to retire early from the military because he was treated like a liability and character flawed officer. Even today he has to explain the arrest 15 years later.
Agreed. Unfortunately they are there for life and can keep you out of certain jobs even if you were wrongly arrested. "Innocent until proven guilty" has as many holes as Swiss cheese.
@@deidrabrey4043 I was falsely arrested for assault and although the case was dismissed it still haunts me almost 2 decades later. Once there is an arrest it goes to multiple data bases and is practically impossible to erase. What's really bad is that most people treat an arrest record as though one had been convicted. Any action such as job applications or even mortgage applications that do a background check will uncover the record. It carries a stigma for the rest of the persons life.
Yep
As far as I know the charges have to be dismissed without prejudice? Even then I think the person still has to petition the court and have a court hearing to have the record expunged. I am not a lawyer so don't quote me on that. But that is how I understand it. Maybe Steve could weigh in on that and either confirm or correct me on that.
The officer wasn’t wrong, he was flat out lying.
I just made the same comment but deleted it after seeing yours.
Deserves prison time.
along with 10 or so more cases by the same lying cop....he'd established a pattern of false arrests, lying on official statements, perjury, and in general douchebaggery......
If a cop resigns under investigation, criminal charges should be brought.
Bingo
Or at the very least, it should be treated the same as a test refusal by a DUI suspect in that the resignation should be admissible as evidence of guilt.
The cop will be allowed to get a job in another city with a "clean" record.
You should be able to sue individual police officers for slander, false accusations, and wrongful detention. A police officer saying something in a court of law, without evidence, should not be admissable.
agreed... an officer should have to put their own ass on the line if they make the decision to take someone to jail.. especially without one lick of evidence
Pergery too >sp?
qualified immunity should be done away with
Officer committed a felony by swearing a false official statement. Where is the accountability? What minorities have always seen. Now Caucasians are seeing it for themselves.
Yep. Having the PD or city or some other entity pay out sums, whilst the offender keeps his job, is offensive.
OTOH, anyone testifying in any court _is_ evidence.
Pilots, CDL holders (truck drivers, bus drivers, ect) and members of the military can have their careers permanently ended from a single DUI.
This is completely unacceptable.
The worst part? Individuals who have been arrrested must disclose that fact when asked, forever!
This is absolutely deplorable! The only way this stops is when you Start making cop$ pay for their miconduct!
I agree 💯
When you cost your city $400k, he will pay for it. Maybe not to the extent that he should, but most cops are good people who just want to help. Bad cops don't always get weeded out, but they often do as long as their leadership is good. Just like ANY occupation, there are bad people everywhere.
That's what the 2nd amendment is for
unfortunately its not the cops money...its yours from taxes.
@@rodeowerewolf3004 All the cop's money is in every way from your taxes...
There is a difference between being wrong and lying. This cop flat out lied and should be put on the Brady list!
Wrong, he should be fired and charged with perjury and sued personally liable for $1 million
@@vipermikes5547 And THEN put on the Brady list. ;-)
@@vipermikes5547$1 million is chump change to what some of the victims deserve.
@@stevepreskitt283these lawyers should start adding malicious prosecution to these lawsuits.
It's very obvious that this cop was using his position to punish the innocent driver for personal gratification. The bogus charges were meant to cause damages, financial, mental and emotional to the driver and his future standing in society.
@@vipermikes5547and be put on Brady list
Having blown a 0.0 literally proved the officer was flat out lying because it is impossible to smell an overwhelming of something that didn't exist.
Ethanol based hand sanitizer because way more popular for some reason in the time frame of 2020-2022. Normally hand sanitizer is IPA, isopropyl alcohol, which has one distinct scent, but ethanal hand sanitizer also is effective but it smells like a gin and tonic. So if this guy nervously cleaned his hands, the smell of ethanol would have been in the air.
Maybe what the cop was smelling was his own breath.
@@ajm5007 Perhaps he just has a brain tumor?
As always no punishment for the corrupt police. We need police reform!
I’m not sure if the lawsuit went after the cop but there is no qualified immunity here in Colorado. I hope this guy went after the cop
Let's start by naming the officers who resigned over the incident! The public needs to know what happened, before they go all Chauvin on a Floyd.
I like how Steve mentions pilots. Pilots are subject to the FAA pilots records database that records all their training, reviews, incidents, ect. because we hold pilots to a higher standard. Why don't we have the equivalent for these crooked cops?
The cop violated his rights and the illegal arrest became kidnapping. That could be a capital offense
@@GeorgeVCohea-dw7ouChauvin acted according to his training. Floyd ate enough fentanyl to kill a horse.
Police officers should be criminally charged for falsifying a police report.
When the cop claims he smells alcohol, and person blows 0, there is no legitimate basis for a blood test. Failure to signal does not justify fishing.
When a police officer claims he smells a strong odor of alcohol and his suspect shows no trace of alcohol, by the process of elimination, it must be the officer that was the source of the odor. As a result, by his own word, he should have been arrested for DWI. Unfortunately, it is the taxpayers who are paying for the officer's dishonesty.
It's just a get out of jail free card for arrests and/or search and seizures without probable cause.
I like the idea of charging the officer with a DUI in this case. Sound logic.
That likely won't happen, but that officer's "experience and training" that he'll claim when testilying can be legitimately called into question by every defense attorney in the area from now until forever. It won't be any kind of legal precedent, but every time he takes the stand in a DUI case he should be asked, "has your experience and training ever led you to detect an odor of alcohol in any case where the defendant was proven to not have had alcohol in their system?" Either answer will work to demonstrate that his testimony can't be relied on, and if he says "no", the defense can absolutely tear him a new one.
@@TyroRNG No, things like Civil Asset Forfeiture is their "Get out of jail free card" for seizures. They can, literally, take ALL your cash, and even take your car, your wallet, your watch, everything you own, from you, and good luck on getting it back. And all they have to do is say "Well, we think you're going to use it for a crime" or "we think you got it by committing a crime", and that's all they have to say and good luck on getting it back.
Say you saved up for YEARS and bought yourself a nice red sports car. You'd just bought it at the dealership, you had the plate and everything. And you're just driving home when a cop decides he / she likes your car and wants it for themselves.
All they have to do is pull you over, claim you stole it / you used stolen money for it / you used drug money for it or whatever excuse they want to make, kick you out of your brand new car and tow it away. And you'll NEVER get it back. Not without spending tens of thousands of dollars on lawyers fees. More than you spent on the car. While they have all the money in the world thanks to tax payer money being used.
So the car you worked, saved, scraped and scrimped to pay for, is ripped out from under you, all because a cop decides THEY want the car and have decided you don't deserve to have one, and all they have to do is use civil asset forfeiture to do it. And they don't even have to charge you with a crime, either.
Your logic is impeccable! It's a shame that towns and cities are actually controlled by police unions. I live in a city where the mayor and councilmembers are afraid of the police union and its president. It's like the Godfather novel.
and cops wonder why citizens neither trust nor respect them....
They know why, they don't care about trust or respect. They only care about the ego trip messing up someone's life gives them.
Mind you, Loveland is the same police department that tackled a 73 year old Karen Garner with sensory aphasia to the ground twice, dislocated her shoulder, celebrated it all while watching it back, had her cuffed to a bench for hours without medical treatment, and then tried to alter or erase the footage. All this over her forgetting to pay for $13 worth of goods at a Walmart (when Walmart caught it she offered her card to pay and was refused and the items taken forcefully from her). There are now criminal charges against the two officers involved and she got a substantial settlement.
They also assaulted a man who refused to id when they claimed he was a witness to a motorcycle accident and also beat up,tased and arrested a father and daughter and choked their dog,Loveland is an out of control PD and should be investigated at federal level.
She died recently
@@pik1andlik1😥
That's quite the name.
@@pik1andlik1 I'd feel bad about laughing at her name being on that headstone.
Fort Collins and other nearby departments are facing more lawsuits from these practices. A female lawyer has an entire practice suing Colorado departments because they are so incompetent and corrupt. She is doing quite well for herself and her clients.
Hell, this isn't Steve's first video about Fort Collins. One guy who got arrested there ended up spending a year in jail waiting for his court date on DUI charges despite his breath and blood tests coming back clear.
Yes she is. Sarah is brave enough to go after these fu kkers and has now won many payouts for victims of Loveland PD. New chief, same problems. He came from Fort Collins! 🤦♀️
Can you explain why Colorado is like this?
@@alanrogs3990 I don't live in the State, but I'm scared everytime I visit. I try not to drive in Aurora. The cops just seem dumb, and intimidating.🤔🤔🤔
A female lawyer!? In this day and age>
MADD also gives trophies to cops who make the most DUI arrests.
and they get a lot of money from the arrest.
MADD started of as a good idea, stop drunk drivers from killing their kids. But early on MADD promulgated a police culture of everyone is a drunk driver and must be punished. Even if you are not drunk, they don't care. Back when MADD started, I supported them, for less than a year when I saw what was happening.
It should be for DUI convictions
Arrests, not convictions
I wonder why????
You should join the group I started, DAMM (Drunks Against Mad Mother's)
Cops should not be allowed to resign if under investigation. They should be held accountable
“Consciousness of guilt”
Is a cop resigns during an internal investigation, it should simply immediately become a criminal investigation. Hand it over to the DoJ, and have them investigate.
It's absolutely ridiculous that Police officers can just resign and avoid being investigated. If they suspected a citizen of committing a crime (which it seems this was), they'd definitely have no problem investigating them.
Cops don't resign in order to avoid being investigated. They resign so they can keep their pension they've accrued at the time of their resignation. If they're fired, they lose their pension.
Yeah that does seem wrong. Although, legally it’s hard to prove the officer did anything wrong. That measure is based on the officer BELIEVING he has probable cause for an arrest. It’s tough to prove someone didn’t believe something.
Actually, a resignation or retirement can be denied. Almost always it is reported as, "the Officers resigned" or "retired", when the Headline should be "the Officer was ALLOWED to resign to avoid disciplinary actions and keep a clean record and retain full pension and benefits".
But... It is the decision for the Chief, Sheriff, or Mayor (depending on jurisdiction) to allow a resignation or deny it (and subsequently terminate the employment on disciplinary grounds). And the sad thing is, that they have a personal incentive to allow the resignation, in order to make an embarrassing case go away. "Tough on Crime", except for mine...
I personally think, there should be a duty to investigate and a hold on resignation, with automatic suspension, until the investigation is finished. And there should also be Command Responsibility, meaning superior are by default responsible for the actions of their underlings, unless they do something about it. And poor leadership should also be sactioned... poor leadership meaning to allowing underlings to conduct themselves unprofessionally (aggressive, foulmouthed, disrespectful... not quite criminal, yet, but certainly unbecoming of an officer of the law).
Hate when replying to a comment, and then the video ends with a commercial and tap to shut it off, I lose my reply.
Now for my reply if I can remember it.
I wish that officers who do this would face jail time, but I am satisfied that he is no longer a police officer. But, the investigation should still continue, and that police officer can not just go to the next county and be an officer there. But this problem should have been cleared up before the driver was even checked into jail. A 0.00 means the officer was mistaken (not that I believe that) and the secondary check at the police station should be the end of the story (other that a rotten apple in the police force). So the procedure at that station should also be looked into.
@@michaelgarrison688 : Though, that is the problem with being Allowed to resign. They'll soon be rehired in the neighbouring county, with a clean disciplinary record.
It's funny how pilots being held to a higher standard makes it so their punishments are worse, where police being held to a higher standard makes their punishments either lesser or non-existent.
Commercial truck drivers are held to the same standard. A class C license can be lost for a conviction even if caught on personal time.
I was falsely arrested for DUI 3 times, all by the same cop who had promised to ruin me because I refused to rat out a buddy with whom he had a personal beef. They were all dismissed, and a judge finally made it stop, but it still had a profound impact on my life when I could no longer pass security clearances and had to change careers for the worse. Interestingly, they told me they “didn’t pander to drunkards” and even made it clear that they didn’t care whether or not I was guilty, only that I had been arrested. And I didn’t get a dime for my trouble.
You had a bad lawyer then buddy.
@@ClickClack_Bam I didn't sue, because I was in high school and It wasn't my decision. However, I was so innocent I didn't need a lawyer to have them all thrown completely out of court, {"nolle processed" was the official term they used, and "Like it never happened" is how they described it at the time) The point of my comment is that ANY arrest - even a false one brought about by police misconduct and corrption that gets thrown out - will stay with you forever and can have a negative impact on your life. And anyone who thinks otherwise has never undergone a Federal background check. They are performed by the FBI {ie just another cop). They dislike lawyers and don't care who yours was, nor what was the outcome of it all. You can plead your case for being innocent, but they don't even want to hear it. In the end, the fact that you were arrested by another in their profession and for what is all that will determine your fate.
@@ralphcantrell3214you should’ve gotten a lawyer and received monetary compensation for your troubles.
@@ET-sp6qmhe said he was in HS prob a minor doesn’t sound right to me
That’s so awful!
The cop's certification should be revoked because he tried to screw with this man's livelihood 😡
He should be charged and held to account. Otherwise the whole thing is crook.
I am an Uber driver. I got a DUI while being completely sober. My rider was the one reeking of alcohol as common sense should dictate. It took 7 months for TBI to process my blood alcohol rate which came back at .000. So, then, the D.A. decides to spring for a toxicology report which WILL come back .000. My next move is to sue and use discovery to exploit the fact that my city does fake DUIs all the time! I have a journalism degree and know how to drop news stories. “Uber driver gets Fake DUI” is clickbait. Rather than go through internal affairs, I am going to leverage publicity by threatening their community relations that conducts PR and reports directly to the chief. They know the viability and reputation damages the city will face. Good times!
Publicity has been shown to be more expedient at getting things fixed than the justice system, sadly. But the real question is will it actually fix the problem? Will anyone be held accountable?
@@Ayverie4 It leads to higher dollar settlements. This, agitates the insurers who take it up with the chief. Lost dollars then result in pressure on police to toe the line and behave. This, in a roundabout way does help.
It’s not clickbait if it’s true
@@brkbtjunkie I agree. It is true and they will click. :-)
@@williamvonschenk2273 The real pressure comes when the insurers drop the account and the department becomes uninsurable.
If a cop lies to me it’s called good police work, if I lie to a cop, it’s a criminal offense. Doesn’t seem right.
U have every right to lie to cop. It’s called the 5th amendment the right not to incriminate yourself and by lying your not incriminating yourself 😊
This is what happens when government rewards DUI arrests, instead of convictions
I saw the video of this arrest and, to me, the officer was triggered and became condescending and hostile when the accused was presented with medical release forms for the blood draw. He requested to be able to read the legal document he was expected to sign. He refused to consent to the draw until he had the opportunity to read the legal release. That is when the officer said "I don't have time for this." and went into arrest mode.
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I saw the same video, and I was thinking to myself. Let the guy read the thing, but the cop just didn’t have any patience at that point. I wonder how the cop would feel it was his daughter being spoken to like that “sign this piece of paper you don’t need to read it”. When, in fact, his livelihood depended on it.
"I don't have time for this." Ruinous legacy of William Parker, LAPD, and Sgt. Joe Friday / Jack Webb. Parker believed fewer but better trained officers meant less corruption. While that may or may not be true, it does make the officers incredibly inpatient.
That's actually a crime... at the very least it's Deprivation of Rights under the Color of Law (1st and 14th Amendment Violations... retaliation agaist speech and due process) and Violation of Oath of Office.
This officer is why certain amendments exist.
Discreetly correct.
Saw the body cam of this arrest on LackLuster, pretty screwed that a single cop can hold so much power over a person just because he says he smells something. I'm glad he won a settlement, but it needs to start coming from police pension funds, not the taxpayer.
From all the police not just the one who did it.
I agree, what happened to the elimination of Qualified Stupidity in Colorado?
@@concernedcitizen1874 This is an old case, happened prior to the QI repeal.
The police only have to say they smelled alcohol or pot. You cannot prove they didn't or that they flat out lied about it unless you catch them saying so on camera or a recording. I heard the searches because of pot has a case law that's overturned but with medical it should be. Preventing breaking the fourth. And searching the cars there are bad actors that have been caught planting pot. Was on the video
Regarding the plaintiff being a pilot, getting a DUI can cause you to have your pilot's license being suspended or revoked.
Cdl license too
Shame on officers who can put someone's livelihood in jeopardy for kicks. Wasn't there also that case where officers flipped a coin to see if they'd ticket or detain a driver? Will they still claim overwhelmkng smell of alcohol if they were on the hook for 400k dollars of their own money? There would be zero stories like these if that were the case, I'm sure.
@saldiven2009 is that upon conviction of DUI, or upon arrest?
In this case, the guy was accused of DUI & arrested but never convicted.
Until watching this video, I was unaware that FAA took any action at all when a person is arrested for DUI (as opposed to being found guilty)
Best solution is to have the blood test come back within two days. Negative on blood test then the arrest for DUI should be expunged. Waiting months on it is ridiculous, and I hope to Courts will rule eventually that it is unconstitutional.
@@julianbrelsford It's hard to say. The FAA regulation (FAR 61-15(c)) is annoyingly vague on whether or not a conviction is required to qualify as a "motor vehicle action" under their statute. It would make sense that a conviction would be necessary, but maybe it's vague enough to allow them to include various plea agreements that do not equate to conviction? I honestly don't know.
But, the point is that bogus DUI arrests can have very significant impact upon an innocent person. The pilot license thing is just one example.
This needs to be a 7-8 figure settlement, $400,000 not nearly enough to force change. Police officers need to carry personal liability insurance for their actions. They could quit all they want but insurance companies wouldn’t keep insuring them and they wouldn’t be re-hirable.
Stories like this really piss me off. I do pest control for a living so if I get a DUI I lose my job just to hear the officer involved faces next to no punishment. This whole resigning thing needs to be looked at differently.
They don't lose thier jobs if they get a DUI either.
One of the important things to take from this case is that the Chief said the officer did nothing wrong and fully backed him up. Throughout the entire investigation the Chief never fired or even reprimanded him.
Because this nonsense is being pushed from the Chief himself, probably being pressured by the local Government.
_"Investigation:"_ . . . 😃😄😆😅😂🤣
The department hid the officer’s name. This is supremely problematic, as *_We The People_* have no clue, if they are still out there employed by a different department.
Last name of arresting leo is Gates as per body cam footage
That's the same department that broke an old lady's arm for no reason, a couple years ago. Pretty disturbing case.
To hell with all these lawsuits. Especially when they use the people's money, as a band-aid for _Acts of Tyranny_ .
Why aren't the individuals be held accountable and dealt with accordingly???
This is DEAD WRONG, on so many levels... "Never before was wilful ignorance considered a virtue." Enough!
To add insult to injury, they settle with taxpayer funds and admit no liability. Law enforcement need to start carrying their own liability insurance like doctors so we aren't paying for their abuse of authority.
So the Town loses $400,000 plus they get to pay out 2 pensions and medical cost for the entire life of 2 CRIMINALS.. that is the REAL crime.
I LIVE IN COLORADO, AND THIS HAS BEEN ALL OVER THE NEWS.
The cop who arrested this guy has a record of these false arrests. At least 4 other people were also arrested recently by the dirty cop.
Yes, he resigned, but other Police departments learned the victims name, and likely targeted him to arrest him again on false DUI.
Maybe that is why he got arrested the second time in Ft..Collins, retaliation by the neighboring police department. These police departments need to be charged with conspiracy and RICO...
Will he not sue again for $400,000
Maybe they split the money 😊
They are revenue collectors... nothing more
Probably the guys license plate had him in the system as a DUI offender. So other departments are running the plate and then pull him over for no reason.
Utah Trooper, Lisa Steed, made a career out of false DUI charges. She'd simply lie and say the person failed the failed sobriety, convince the person to voluntarily take a blood test at the station (to clear them of charges), then use any residual thc or prescription still left in a person's system would be evidence to support the charges. I believe one person charged and convicted had residual "drugs" in their system from a surgery they had over twenty days prior; from a doctor administered anesthesia. Lisa Steed was given honors and awards for her criminality before eventually leaving the force.
The Supreme Court needs to dissolve qualified immunity and have each officers take out their own personal liability insurance, its very unfair for taxpayers to flip the bill for corrupt cop's arrogance and stupidity.
yes, settlements should start coming out of the police pension funds.
Trump wants to indemnify all LEO’s, so that the American people can never sue police!
I've been saying this, but I've been calling it malpractice insurance like medical practitioners get.
Immunity is a lie, sue in common law, there is no immunity in common law.
States are always free to pass their own laws.
In the late 90s the county chapter of MADD offered $50 for every dui arrest. During that time I was stopped 15 times in one town when I was coming home from visiting my daughter around 10 pm. They made me do a field sobriety test and blow every time. I finally went to the city offices to complain and the chief of police actually told me what do you expect they’re just trying to make some extra money. I told him I was going to the next council meeting to complain if it happened again and was never stopped again.
A BOUNTY?! Wowza
" They made me do a field sobriety test " There is no place in the country that the police can force you to do those tests. Never do them, always say no. They are designed to make you fail.
Amazing how they can keep track of who to not mess with.
Well, maybe You should've sued and gotten a $$ check
@@joshuahudson2170 Which of course means the opposite is also true, they can keep track of who to continually harass!
Regarding officers "detecting" the smell of alcohol or marijuana, one time I was camping at Chaco Canyon National Historical Park, and some Ranger "investigated" the site next to mine, claiming he smelled marijuana. They were smoking a stogie (tobacco cigar). Really builds one's faith in their ability to smell correctly.
This isn’t about a DUI but when I was in the Navy I learned first hand that police departments do in fact have quotas for how many ticket they write.
Back in September of 95 I was stationed in Norfolk (the Little Creek base) and we had just gotten back from our Med Cruise. While we were on our cruise I was able to renew registration it obviously I couldn’t update my inspection. When I went to pick up my car from the storage lot I put my registration stickers on before I left & was headed to get my inspection. No sooner than Han I made a right turn pulling out I got pulled over. From where he was coming from the ONLY way he could’ve seen my inspection sticker was when he walked up to my window. Even after explaining to him that we just got back from our Med Cruise, having a newspaper in my car with all the ships that came back & showing him my military ID that had a sticker with my ships name on it he still tried to say I was lying & told me to take it to court. When I told my NCO he was just as pissed as I was & told me to go ahead & fight it. In court the judge turned to him & asked the officer why he wrote me the ticket then dismissed it. I realize that technically the ticket was legit but it was the end of the month & EVERYONE in the Hampton Roads area knows when ships come back from& leave for major deployments so he was purposely waiting for people to come pickup their vehicles so he could meet his quota.
I remember this story. At first when the local news did the story the police chief came out and said that when a DUI arrest is made and it turns out the guy wasn’t under the influence the police dept looks at the cops camera and goes over what was done wrong and fix it so it doesn’t happen again. Turns out this particular cop had 8 dui arrests that were proven to be wrong. And it was a big deal for these guys that were wrongly arrested Like one guy had his pick up towed and he didn’t have the money to get it out and lost his job over it. Another man didn’t have the money for bail and sat in jail for 90 days Now the police chief wasn’t available for comment
The Police Chief cowardly quit and took a job in Prescott Valley, AZ.
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90 days? Fark. Life ruined, set back by years because some cop had a "feeling". That's going to screw you up. How do you make that right? Can any amount of money make that right?
That’s horrible for those people.
Think about it. Even if you win you lose. Cost you impound that's not refunded. Court costs. Loss of work. Layer or public defender fees. Being targeted from now on since the arrests still shows in the system. Think this guys second arrest in neighbor town wasn't connected. Cop gets a trophy and department gets money. I am against drunk driving but false DUI charges need consequences for policemen. Most will not apologize for wrongful arrests. One guy said on her the state took over 6 months to get blood tests back showing no substance or alcohol. Meanwhile his DL was affected.
My son has had 3 DUI's in 3 years. One while walking on the side of the road was called public drunk.
He took the test on the police portable breathalyzer and all were 0.0 so they changed the charges to DUI to other. He ask for the alternate blood test. He was told that they didn't have that test in that county because the hospital was closed down but they could take him to another hospital at my son's expense for transportation and the cost of the blood test.
Just over $2,500 total cost plus he would have to wait until he could see a judge in 3 days while staying in jail.
He pled guilty and the police DEPARTMENT'S told him when he was to be in court and released him within 1 hour a let him drive home.
His fine was $1,450 plus going to DUI school for $300 more.
I think they're just doing this because most people cannot afford to pay for a good lawyer and they know it.
By the way this is small towns in Mississippi.
So true. I think most cops play the odds. 60% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. These people can’t afford to have their cars towed. Pay impound fees let alone hire an attorney
Steve, you would not believe the incompetence of the Loveland police department. Seems like every few weeks there is a big news story about this department's wrongdoings. Policing has become a joke and the American citizens are the punchline.
Wasn’t that the city who’s PD beat and broke the 80 something lady’s shoulder and then laughed about it?
This happend about the same time they broke an elderly woman with alshimer shoulder then laughed showing the bodycam to others in the station. Which was also on camera.
Oh yeah the woman was in a holding cell being refused medical treatment while they laughed at how her shoulder "popped" in the video
This probably the 6th such story I’ve heard about Loveland.
Must be something about that area of Colorado. Loveland is like 25 miles from Fort Lupton. Fort Lupton is where the police handcuffed that girl and put her in the back of a patrol car parked on train tracks. Car was then hit by a train with her locked in it in handcuffs.
Good pun
There has to be a way to recover this $400k from the officer, why are the citizens of that town paying this.
The $400,000 is the citizen's convenience fee for not paying attention to their local government.
I’ve wondered about this… can a class action lawsuit be filed against the city by the taxpayers who had to foot the bill? The 93 cents each taxpayer gets back isn’t the point; the point would be making the city pay TWICE and the legal precedent it might set. If enough cities were to get sued for this they would force cops to get liability insurance real quick.
@@ElectronicsGuy666 Only way is to have them vote out the mayor and police chief, and get ones who stand on a platform of not having these abuses of power.
Class action only means an attorney will collect millions while the affected citizens will get $1 off their next water/sewage/trash collection bill.
@@danwells9525 It always seems to me that if people really paid attention to what happens within their local governments that costs them money, they would be inclined to get rid of the bad apples in their city / county/ etc, officials.
Internal affairs should be allowed to complete an investigated whether or not a cop resigns, and in fact, legally compelled to continue the investigation on count of suspicion.
The big problem here is that, while a conviction record can be cleared, an arrest record cannot be cleared. There are many situations where they look at your arrest record, not your conviction record: For example, if you go through a security clearance investigation in the US, or if you cross the border from the US to Canada, they look at your arrest record -- if they have time to do the investigations properly, they will eventually find the truth; if they do not have time to do the investigations properly, you could end up being denied a job that requires a security clearance or being denied entry to Canada because you were incorrectly arrested.
Arrests can be expunged. It's rare though.
You are so right my friend!
Truth, worked investigations for awhile and was the guy that ran everything through NCIC. Policy and procedure was a god damn joke, basically deny deny deny for any and every little reason. Others did not even bother to check if there were actual convictions, if they saw the arrest record, someone got denied.
Yes so true just because they drop the charges you still have that record.
Yeah, which is what happened to the victim.
His pilots license was suspended. Ergo, his ability to do his job was put on hold
All so a dirty cop could earn his points in a cruel game against innocent people.
Anyone who has a CDL is also held to a higher standard.
Right
I got pulled over by Colorado highway patrol, when he saw my license with a CDL he said "oh you have a CDL" I responded "yes it is called the license of discrimination"--- he agreed no ticket no warning.....
Only those who are enforcing the law are held to lower standards and rewarded for being wrong
Pilots are limited to .04 which is half of the level in most states now. A single beer 4 hours before takeoff will make them fail. Most won't touch alcohol for 12 hours before a flight.
@michaelwilkening8542 In most states it's the same for those of us with a CDL when in our personal vehicles. When driving a commercial vehicle, most states say that anything above 0.00 is a DWI or DUI. Oh, and if there is an alcohol container potentially within our reach, or the reach of a passenger that can hand it to us, of any vehicle we are driving it's an automatic DWI/DUI, no testing required and a test showing a 0.00 doesn't exonerate us either.
Loveland PD has been in the news before for some pretty reprehensible stuff coming from their deputies.
Two of their cops went to prison over a violent arrest of a grandmother with dementia, she'd apparently forgotten to pay for a few items at Walmart, but relinquished the merchandise when confronted by employees.
She then started to walk home but was stopped by police, they didn't particularly like it when she didn't instantly comply with their demands.. so they broke her wrist and dislocated her shoulder before stuffing her into a police cruiser and hauling her off to jail.
She was made to sit handcuffed to a bench inside a cell for hours while the two arresting officers reviewed the bodycam footage and laughed.
The Loveland cop had at least 9 false DUI arrests. With all of them O% on both blood & breath test.
Resignation should not shield criminals against false reports.
@@TheMelnTeam Exactly, They do not even have to accept a resignation. They could just fire them.
Four years to get justice for fake DUI arrest is far too long. The bonus prize with the settlement should be the lifetime suspension of the cops policing certificate.
Never forget they were ALLOWED to resign. A resignation of an offending officer can be denied and he instead be terminated on disciplinary grounds.
This happened to a college student in Iowa. He was stone sober and gave him a DUI when he blowed 0.00
Isn't it the same kid that the cops are trying to counter sue for putting the video on youtube of the cop arresting him for dui after eventually blowing zero ?
@@greg5639 I saw this, imagine filing a lawsuit due to your own incompetence 🤣🤣🤣
@@greg5639Yes
@@greg5639 Yup, they are. Reminds me of Afroman being sued for making fun of cops that raided his house. He humiliated them, so they are suing him. Thats a great story btw
@@jtr82369 - The lawsuit was for defamation because the student made a potentially inaccurate statement about a domestic violence accusation. The kid should have just kept the video to the facts he knew.
Fun fact , the first time I was pulled over, it was early in the morning after St. Patrick's day. I was on my way to work , and had a car zoom up behind me with their brights on. He rode my tail VERY close while zigging back and forth like he wanted to race or something. I speed up to get some distance between us , and as soon as I hit 10 mph over the speed limit , he dropped back , turned off the brights , and turned on the blues and reds. I pulled over , and officer McDipstick was surprised to find a stone cold sober late '20's guy going to work. So he told me I was " Lucky " and gave me a warning. And cops wonder why they are hated.
i had a cop try pull that shit on me, luckily for me i have front and rear dashcams, unluckily for me, in my country you cant sue, but also luckily for me, our entire countries police force are all under one banner, if you get fired from one town you cant simply move to another and get a job with them, you are black listed, and yes, i wasn't the only one the he had done this to, i was just the first with the evidence that proved what he was doing, and you know what they say about "beyond reasonable doubt" yeah, when an officer here is proven to have lied under oath, EVERY case that officer was responsible for has to be reopened, reinvestigated, and gone over with a fine tooth comb, otherwise lawyer's can simply point out: "the officer was a proven Lier, how do you know he didn't lie about my client" and there is your reasonable doubt.....
This sounds exactly like something my buddy went through. He was leaving work (he worked at a bar) and the cop did the exact same thing, and he did the exact same thing you did.
He should sue the DUI advocate group who provided the incentives for that police dept. as well. their incentives spurred the cop to falsely arrest people for DUI
THE PROBLEM IS THE OFFICERS NEVER PAY A PRICE! THE TAXPAYERS DO!
In my state I think they should do this everywhere but in my state it is not legal for a police officer to resign his position. While under investigation he can quit after the investigation's over with, but until then he has to stay employed at the department and he cannot resign until the investigation is over. This prevents them from quitting and then investigation ending and then going to another department fresh and new with no investigation outcome. I think they should do this with every state
110% they should , but they won't .
The investigation should be of the incident that happened regardless of what his current profession is or isn't. If you commit a crime, you can't go and say, "I resigned from being a criminal so you cannot prosecute me." That's Bullarky. Resignation should only mean they are not getting paid while being investigated. They should still have to show up to the court and depositions and tesify about what they did WHILE on the job and What they DID at the stop, WHILE they were a cop. The Past has already happenned , people should not be immune from what they have done just because they changed jobs.
@@Metqa yeah the investigation should continue but when they quit the investigation ends or at least every time I've ever seen it. And the only thing I can understand about it is that they're investigating whether or not wrong doing was done. But since they no longer work there they're not going to continue because there's nothing they can do. They can't fire him and they're not going to bring charges against them. That's why I like what my state does and makes them tell them they have to stay working. They can't quit until the investigation is over with
This happened to me about 10 years ago while riding my motorcycle thru a small town early in the morning. Officer said I failed 3of6 dui tests and made me blow into breath analyzer. I knew he was full of shit about me failing his sobriety tests because I knew I hadn’t been drinking. Blew 0.0 and he still wanted to arrest me. I basically talked my way out of being arrested by begging. I feel totally wronged now and wish I had just let them arrest me and not tried so hard to prevent the arrest. I also had no drugs in my system. Didn’t have any money at the time so I wouldn’t be able to hire a lawyer then.
I used to work swing shift so I was coming home at around 2 am most nights and I’ve been stopped multiple times where the cop lies and claims he smells alcohol just so he can pull me out of the car. Fortunately I’ve never been arrested but it always rubbed the wrong way. The cop and I both know he’s lying but there’s no way to prove it.
I used to be a member of a singing group that met upstairs over a bar. I'd be leaving there about 11 pm on rehearsal nights. Got pulled over a few times. Makes sense- I was coming out of a bar late on a weeknight. Never got pulled for FTSs though.
The system we have created is ripe for abuse, it amazes me that it hasn't been exploited yet: What is stopping police from falsely arresting someone they are in a secret agreement with and sharing the payout the person will get? There is absolutely no risk to the officer as long as the scam isn't exposed. The officer in a worst case scenario can just go to the next department and run the same setup again. With hundreds of thousands of $ and no risk it is surprising that this isn't commonplace behavior.
Probably because you would need to trust somebody quite well to do this and that level of trust does not exist without an easily uncovered history. Meetings, calls, GPS logs, messages, social media, and more. While certainly not impossible to pull off, they both would face real jail time for what is unlikely to be a life-altering payout.
Evil genius
No one is safe from a system that is not anchored to Truth, Justice and Integrity.
When you watch the footage and the complete disregard for objectivity, truth, honesty, and integrity it's disgusting
I represent cops for a living. I have seen the footage (if this is the one where he scolds the cop at the end). You are correct. These aren't "rookie mistakes". These are "culture of arrogance and dishonesty" intentional misdeeds. Someone trained these officers that they can do this, if they do it this way.
@@johnchapman6220do you think cops ego is the reason there are so many nonsensical problems?
In many cases, that's true. not all. Some are bullies who lie undetected in those areas that lack psych screening as part of the hiring process. Some are trained to be that way, in areas with a toxic institutional culture. It is tough to believe that there are places in the USA where this kinda crap is rare or absent, if you live in an area where it is often encountered. I personally was trained very differently from the officers shown here. "Never arrest when you can summons, never summons where you can warn, if that lower level of enforcement is very likely to accomplish all yu need to accomplish."@@toomuch3864
In the police academy, cops are taught to be calloused and brutish. So they basically become like criminals/ gangsters. Their motto: "To catch a wolf you have to be a wolf" also happens to be famous line in "Training day"
Have you ever attended or taught at a police academy? I have done both, in one state. Maybe there are places where this is / recently was true. Not so much around here.@@dmoriasi
There has to be accountability on the part of the police officers. If there is no accountability, they will keep doing it.
You were quite generous to not mention the involvement of MADD (monsters against drunk driving) in the DUI competitions because their hands are DEFINITELY dirty in these false accusations across the US.
Yup, this is abuse of power. In the military I worked for a three star with a reputation for abuse of power. She would target people and have her cronies create tension in the ranks of one of her own subordinate units to give her pretext for initiating an investigation. She often told her inside circle, "9 out of 10 times we'll find something we can hang them with and even if we don't we suspend them from their leadership position during the investigation and the world will think they got fired so they're screwed either way." The problem is it is so difficult to catch these power abusers in the act. They are really good at using pretext, plausible denial and the word of their co-conspirators and loyal followers. I am glad this pilot stuck to his guns and did not fold. I know I have always said I would not submit to questioning when pulled over but have always caved. Thankfully the cops that pulled me over for minor traffic violations or just random checks have always been stellar individuals.
Methinks the Fort Collins arrest was targeted retribution as "a favor to a pal".
@@MonkeyJedi99yep I thought the same thing...
That 3-star shouldn't be allowed to be in charge of a lemonade stand.
Did you report the 3 Sar to her superiors? I'm tired if hearing these types of stories from insiders that do nothing.
deidrabrey4043,
Thank you for your service.
We have dark triad individuals like your 3 star in ever greater percentages the higher one goes up the food chain.
Those cops who pulled you over are the norm in police departments everywhere. The bad apples like the ones in this video are the exception.
Imagine how many innocent victims they had to stop in order to randomly get one of their victims twice.
You can't get more predatory than that.
How can you arrest someone for no criminal actions ?
Just being arrested for anything, even if you’re released and not charged, can have serious consequences. In some professions, you can be fired just for being arrested and nothing else. My dad had security clearance and was always very careful because his clearance could be revoked if he was ever arrested. And that would’ve cost him not only his job but his entire career.
Arrested not charged. Only time I have ever been introuble and now I have a record that I have tried to remove / seal but even that process is built in a way to keep you in the system.
@@Arxitec I was going to come in and say that also. But yeah, good luck getting that arrest out of the nics and state systems
We have seen countless examples of cops treating military members poorly. So the risk of losing your clearance or job is definitely there, even when you've done nothing wrong.
Of course it was Loveland. The same place that broke the arm of Karen Garner and shot that dog seconds after exiting the car. This department needs to defunded and abolished.
Normally, I wouldn't wish Federal oversight on anyone.... but Loveland PD? Yeah, let the punishment fit the crime. That pilot had Federal oversight, lost his job, had micro managing paper pushing a$$holes *allllll* up in his business; it's only fair the police should enjoy the same.
Isn't Loveland police also the ones that dislocated a man's shoulder who did nothing but help the victim of a motorcycle accident?
@@kfox420 Oh snap, yeah that's the one. I completely forgot about that one.
Karen recently passed away. She never really recovered from the beating from the Loveland Cops.
This happened to my son in Florida. Cost him $15,000 in attorneys fees it was eventually thrown out of court.
Sad
Loveland Colorado! Guess they were done terrorizing harmless grandmother's walking down the street.
Karen Garner
Saying she stole from Wally World when she did not take anything
This happens way too much. Field sobriety test can be interpreted in any way and 9 times out of ten you are already guilty before the test is given. The test is just a formality to justify a arrest if the really want to.
Field sobriety tests are not mandatory. Just ask for a chemical test
That's exactly why everyone should refuse them.
In Florida the law specified that a person can refuse FST's. The only thing a person can be required to do is take a breath, blood or urine test.
You can refuse it all buy the time they get a warrant you might not be drunk
If you are accus of DUI and not drinking refuse everything but the blood test the doctor can tell if there is anything in your blood but not how much it is
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I think you might be wrong on if the blood test will not give amount. But I could be wrong also.
This had also happened to a college athlete on scholarship earlier this year, pretty sure in the same region. Initial stop was for driving in city limit with his high beams (which he did because a headlight was out) then falsely accused and arrested for DUI, claiming smell of alcohol or weed, even after blowing 0.0 there on the spot. Officer said something about not playing that game and that he can tell the student is on something, even makes a boastful prideful comment about how this is something he enjoys, recognizing when someone is on something. Kid came back completely clean, after having his scholarship put at risk.
He was a commercial pilot so he lost his employment..400k isn't enough
Steve, question. Do you think you could get an officer on the stand to do a blind smell test to see if they could identify anything accurately?
That's a great idea!
Same thing happened to me years ago. I was arrested and spent a night in jail for being drunk when I was 100% sober. Wished I had know I could have gotten a large compensation from it.
I remember seeing the body cam for this one. Vicious retaliation for the man trying to uphold his rights during the arrest. Glad to see he won and hopefully he gets his life returned to normal after the FAA investigated him.
That loveland attorney that has sued the PD for MILIONS is a beast, its amazing that that PD still exist after all the money they've had to payout.
They don't. We do
Eventually that attorney will be arrested on a "DUI" charge, or whatever else the cops will "find". The one "gang" with government backing.
I got a DUI in Michigan when I wasnt even driving. This happens far more often than you think. They try to get yoy a 2nd time while the first charge is pending because there's a presumption that you're guilty so they can make up whatever insane story they want.
The fact that an officer can legally lie to a citizen, makes anything they say suspect. In court - It is legal for you to lie during an investigation, did you actually smell alcohol? "No", Were you lying to the citizen? "Yes", Are you lying now? "No" How do we know?
Also what is up with Loveland police. They seem to be in the news alot for unlawful activities. Karen Gardner comes to mind along with a few more high profile cases
many crooked cops in the front range of Colorado.
Yes. They are CONSTANTLY in the news for inhumane stuff. I made the same comment
Garner
Many years ago there was a hostage situation in Loveland at a restaurant. The cops started shooting the hostages. That should explain everything.
This town HAS to be out of money from an the lawsuits they've paid out in the past few years
I have a worker that works for me and he has a slow, almost slurred speech on a daily basis. One of my best workers and never touches alcohol but it always terrifies me he will be convicted one day of a dui he did not commit. My sympathy's go out to the gentleman that had it happen twice to him.
This police department should be shut down. Theyve done this same offense repeatedly. Just two years ago another man won 299000 dollar settlement against them. I doubt the cityvisbpaying these victims anything even after losing lawsuits.
This reminds me of the video of the sassy kid that "failed" the field sobriety test but immediately blew 0.0. The cop brought him in for a blood test anyway. They must have had an onsite lab as the results came back the same night which of course were negative and all charges were dropped. The funniest part was that the kid went back to the cop to gently chastise him for arresting him.
I know that video. The kid wasn't "sassy", he just spoke with confidence to the cop.
Also, the officer in that case changed his story after the kid passed the alcohol test. He then accused the kid of being stoned.
Is this not the same case
@@jyyybno this is 100% a different case
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Why is the city allowed to admit to no wrong doing after paying him out and clearly violating his rights? Why can’t they just apologize…so they realize how much an admission and apology would do for their image? So stupid.
I had a similar experience. When I was in University, I worked for the Edmonton Oilers selling beer (walking up and down the stands). Usually at the end of the night, I smelled like expensive cheap beer. I was still wearing my very distinctive uniform, and had my visor that said Beer $4.75 next to me. Pulled over, made to do a blow test, then taken out of the car and did a FST. Of course, I blew 0, and the FST wasn't really a challenge, but he still wanted to arrest me. It took a sergeant to point out to the constable that what I was saying was correct, "He sells the beer, he doesn't drink it".
That's when you say to the cstb, "You see, that's why he's the sergeant".
That cop was a true hoser
That cop and police chief should be paying that money out of their own pockets.
They are no longer "serving" in the department. The Chief and this criminal cop should be serving prison time.
I believe the moral of the story is "everything is possible if you are corrupt enough"
We had a spate of this here, both in Loveland, where this case came from, and Fort Collins which borders Loveland. One officer in each city decided that it was better to arrest folks based on their gut feeling (and no other evidence) than to let a possibly intoxicated driver get away with it. I think there are at least 7 other lawsuits still pending represented by a lawyer who was astute enough to recognize what was going on, comb records for "no alcohol or drugs detected" lab results, and in some cases reach out to victims. In Colorado you are guilty until proven innocent in DUI cases, your DL immediately lifted, at least one guy who had his perhaps 10 year old son in the car when stopped was also charged with endangering and prohibited from some contacts with his son. It was some time before the lab results forced the DA to drop charges, but of course by then a LOT of damage had been done. Both officers, by the way, have resigned.
Probably went to the others department and got hired on the spot.
A safe assumption. Here in Colorado some progress has been made to limit that, I'm not sure how effective it has been though.@@joehannah1343
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Of course they resigned . ' THEIR ' Not going to get n trouble . Just Sickening !
There should be a stopgap order/policies for officers under serious investigations and/or their resignation shouldn't stop any investigations.
That cop should be in jail for HIS crime.
I wonder if an attorney could use the number of times that an officer said he smelled alcohol only to be proven wrong? As you said' you can't photograph a smell but if you repeatedly get proven that none was present wouldn't that be evidence that this officer cannot be relied on to smell alcohol ?
Resigning from the force should not stop the investigation. It should be completed anyways, and the resigning to avoid the investigation should be looked at as an admission of guilt and attempting to not be held accountable.
I always hate how they pay people off but don't have any accountable.
How ignorant and arrogant does a cop have to be to arrest someone for DUI when they show zero objective evidence of impairment? These cops should be fired and never allowed to work in LE again.
Keep in mind that these games and incentives are often financed with MADD funding, where departments get paid incentives or bonuses for DUI's which has resulted in countless cases like this one.
This is one of the reasons I will never donate a penny to MADD until this insanity stops.
From the state of Montana, where drunk driving is considered a sport, comes a true story.
Recently a routine police patrol was parked outside a local neighborhood tavern. Late in the evening the officer noticed a man leaving the bar so intoxicated that he could barely walk. The man stumbled around the parking lot for a few minutes, with the officer quietly observing.
After what seemed an eternity and trying his keys on five vehicles, the man managed to find his car, which he fell into. He was there for a few minutes as most of the other patrons left the bar and drove off. Finally, he started the car, switched the wipers on and off (it wasn't raining or snowing), flicked the indicators on and off, tooted the horn, and then switched on the lights.
He moved the vehicle forward a few inches, reversed a little, and then remained stationary for a few more minutes as more patrons left in their vehicles.
At last he pulled out of the parking lot and started to drive slowly down the road. The police officer, having patiently waited all this time, now started up the patrol car, put on the flashing lights, and promptly pulled the man over and carried out a breathalyzer test. To his amazement, the breathalyzer indicated no evidence of the man having consumed alcohol at all!
Dumbfounded, the officer said "I'll have to ask you to accompany me to the police station. This breathalyzer equipment must be broken".
"I doubt it", said the man. "Tonight I'm the designated decoy."
How do we know this is a "true" story?
@@johnchapman6220 Doesn't matter if it is true. Were you entertained? Then job well done.
You don't often get a comment that makes you laugh like this one. Even less common, is when even the comments on the comment make you laugh.
If it were true the officer would be so mad a resisting or obstruction charge would occur after he got the crap beat out of him
I heard this at least 30 years ago, except there was no mention of Montana and it was presented as a joke
You are correct about the pilot license. When renewing your mecical (which is required to fly) there is a question about being arrested for any alcohol while driving not just convictions. "Have you EVER had any arrest(s) and/or conviction(s) involving driving while intoxicated by, while impaired by, or while under the influence of alcohol or a drug?"
The cop, Judge & DA that allowed this need to be brought up on charges.