Worst cars of the '80s from Ford!

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  • The Detroit 3: GM, Chrysler, and today's special guest, Ford have now all been discussed in terms of the worst cars from each brand ('80s). Possibly might make part 2's for each decade; however, I am going to first focus on the '70s, '90s, and 2000s. Most of you know one more American company that is last to be talked about. From my home state of Wisconsin, American Motors Company will be featured very shortly. Thank you all for the generous support, it helps me make the best, top-notch content for you all! Some may say trucks are not cars some say it's under the same classification. At the end of the day, I have to stay consistent with my thumbnails so please bear with me!
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    0:00 -Intro
    0:45 -Car 1
    3:28 -Car 2
    6:36 -Car 3
    8:08 -Car 4
    9:53 -Tier List
    12:15 -Outro Music: by Karl Casey @ White Bat Audio
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    Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing."
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  • @lab1042
    @lab1042 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +156

    Friend of mine rolled a Bronco II, I was in the passenger seat. Car pulled out in front of us on a 55 mph country road. He hit the brakes and steered to the right. We slid into the grass shoulder which caught the tires and flipped us over completely, landing back on the wheels. Thankfully we were both wearing seatbelts and we walked away without a scratch. After we got back to his house (his mom picked us up - Bronco was obviously trashed) we ordered pizza and drank beer.

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Glad you both are okay. Right on man!🍻

    • @samholdsworth420
      @samholdsworth420 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Back in the day when your parents would buy you alcohol when you were 18 😂

    • @miggyloz806
      @miggyloz806 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@samholdsworth420 shoot, in the 80s you could buy beer at 18

    • @unhandleme
      @unhandleme 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      My cousin also rolled one on a rutted out country road. Hit a big rain-washout and lost control and rolled into a ditch. She did not survive. Not entirely the B2’s fault, but with the height and wonky front suspension - they just weren’t very stable.

    • @brandonbogart7195
      @brandonbogart7195 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Look it up . Ford knew in pre production that those roll over easily and still sent it into production. Over $150 million in wrongful death lawsuits and over 200 lawsuits filed. Like Gm they figured it to be more profitable to pay out lawsuits, than fix the inferior engineering

  • @metaloverdose
    @metaloverdose 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    My parents bought a brand new Bronco II in 1987. I drove it a lot as a teenage and then I owned it for a while when I was 20. It was a great vehicle that was driven by 3 generations in my family. Would love to get my hands on it again and restomod it.

  • @abritton2
    @abritton2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    My grandfather had a couple Perkins Rangers on the farm. By the mid 90’s he had found two or three to use as parts cars. They really were super slow, but he put somewhere close to 400k miles on that Ranger before it rusted out.

    • @midwestmind691
      @midwestmind691 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That's what I have on my Ranger now and still going strong. Of course been replacing starters, sensors, etc over the years. But the 2.3l is a beast

  • @phantom0456
    @phantom0456 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    I always thought that the first and second gen Rangers and Bronco II’s were handsome little trucks, the utilitarian styling really worked well for them.

    • @myadhdSquirel
      @myadhdSquirel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Too bad the transmissions were junk.

    • @PapiDoesIt
      @PapiDoesIt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The manual transmissions were definitely junk. It was a good design, but Ford decided to use plastic parts for the shift mechanism and it failed quickly. Mine popped out of gear and rolled into the woods, despite the parking brake being set. Replacement transmission parts were no better quality than the original. But the little 2.3 engine in mine ran well up to 243K miles when I sold it.

    • @ohioalphornmusicalsawman2474
      @ohioalphornmusicalsawman2474 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They were good runners. My Dad had an '83 Ranger with 2.3 liter 4 and 4 speed manual. Not fast by any means, but was a strong runner, good on gas, could haul a pretty heavy load.

    • @themidnighttavern6784
      @themidnighttavern6784 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Basically what the bronco sport and maverick are today, except those modern cars are actually good. Love our maverick hybrid, genuinely can't comprehend an affordable small truck being much better than it is.

    • @edwinwise6751
      @edwinwise6751 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Had a v6 ranger and bronco 2. Both went well over 100k with no problems . I fixed the roll over tendency on the bronco by using 50 series tires which lowered the center of gravity by several inches . I would buy either one of them again

  • @miguelescobedo2837
    @miguelescobedo2837 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I bought a new Bronco II in 1986 and loved it. Gave it to my Dad who drove it almost the ground. It eventually found its way to rural Mexico, where it may still be running around.

  • @christopherconard2831
    @christopherconard2831 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    The police in my old home town used propane powered cars. Another advantage for engines that run on natural gas is the oil stays cleaner for much longer. This makes a difference when your fleet alternates between stop and go driving with long periods of idling.

    • @jefferyepstein9210
      @jefferyepstein9210 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      There were some crown vics with the conversion produced as late as 2011

    • @gregorymalchuk272
      @gregorymalchuk272 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I saw a book from the early 1980s that said that cars running on LPG should have their oil changed every 500 hours or 15,000 miles. And that was with 1980s API SF oils when the drain interval on gasoline cars was 3,000 of severe service to 5,000 miles highway driving.

    • @STho205
      @STho205 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I worked at a large gas company. Half our fleet was natural gas/propane as we were the filling station.

  • @Masterplan15
    @Masterplan15 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Ford also made propane powered Crown Vic Police cars in the 90's. They quit when they realized they might explode from a rear end collision. Some of them did.

    • @LeeGGarrison
      @LeeGGarrison 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      They were natural gas powered

    • @jefferyepstein9210
      @jefferyepstein9210 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They made them until 2011

    • @ak1ranger
      @ak1ranger 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The propane powered Crown Vics still survive today, especially in Canada. A friend of mine who lives in Toronto always had them in her family. Her Dad would drive nothing else but I think he would get them from either police or taxi fleet sales. He still drives one and they have at least 2 parked at their house. Obviously they are the last gen Crown Vic from.....2006? I don't exactly know but they are still kicking around in Canada!

    • @eddiestanley135
      @eddiestanley135 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just paying homage to the Pinto!!!😁😉

  • @StevenHarber
    @StevenHarber 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    In the very early 2000's I owned a 1985 Ford Escort Wagon DIESEL and I owned a 1986 Ford Tempo DIESEL. The cars weren't quick by any means, but they got tremendous fuel mileage. The Tempo would get close to 50mpg. The Escort Wagon would only do low to mid-40's. Their little 2.0L 4cyl diesel engines were pretty reliable. Other than normal things like starters and maintenance, I never had any major mechanical problems with either of them.

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Good stuff man. Escort wagons are awesome

    • @bertb5992
      @bertb5992 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i had a 86 diesel escort wagon, loved it! it was taken from me when i was rear ended.

  • @jeffbranch8072
    @jeffbranch8072 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Ford did have a diesel car program, and it was brilliant. In 1984 Ford bought 800 BMW turbodiesel inline 6 engines (designed from the ground up as diesel engines, unlike the Olds 350 fiasco), and installed 600 into Continentals and 200 in Mark VII's. The cars were capable of 40 MPG and had 25 gallon tanks - 1000 miles of range! These were GOOD CARS! The problem was, as mentioned, that the GM diesel fiasco had soured the American market to diesels, so Ford canceled the program and sold off the experimental fleet as used cars. A coworker had a buddy that bought one of the Mark VII's and they drove it from Michigan to Florida. Coming home they filled the tank in Miami, FL and stopped to refill in Monroe, MI, because they didn't think they could quite make it all the way back to Dearborn on one tank.

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you, definitely going to bring this up when I eventually talk about these diesels!

    • @alexisg311
      @alexisg311 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@GreenHawkDriveSi los norteamericanos hubieran usado motores diésel europeos para sus coches, como los I6 de Mercedes y BMW, la historia de éstas motorizaciones hubiese sido diferente.
      @GreenHawkDrive If Americans had used European diesel engines for their cars, like the I6s from Mercedes and BMW, the history of these engines would have been different.

  • @devonmask5192
    @devonmask5192 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    The Bronco II was definitely polarizing at the time. Those who went off road or through a lot of snow loved them and held onto them as long as possible. Those new to small 4x4's had a learning curve. Some figured it out, some didn't. In truth, the lil' Bronc was no worse than a Jeep CJ5, International Scout II, The Samurai or the original rollover champ, the original Bronco (yes, the present auction darling was, at the time, seen as a notorious rustbucket that cleared loose oxidation by rolling over). Granted, the Cherokee and S10 were wider and less prone to rollovers, but off road, a well-setup Bronco could only be matched by an equally prepped a Cherokee. The S10 was more road oriented.

    • @thomaslemon3971
      @thomaslemon3971 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It’s like blaming a Mustang for spinning out in a corner. It’s on the driver more than anything else!

  • @nolarobert
    @nolarobert 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    My great Uncle Charles bought the new downsized Thunderbird in 1980. I was amazed at how much it had shrunk from the previous generation. The backseat had very little room. The front seat was okay as long as you moved it all the way back. He didn't keep it too long and traded it for the much roomier LTD in the mid-80s. American cars in the early 80s were hot garbage as they struggled to compete with the Japanese on quality and efficiency. Very dark days for those of us who lived through them.

    • @dannydaw59
      @dannydaw59 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My dad bought the same cars in the 80s. The back seat was roomy but I was only 9.

  • @AlvisHerren
    @AlvisHerren 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My dad had an 87 Ranger with the 2.3 turbo diesel and he loved the excellent fuel economy. He got it in 1996. I enjoyed driving it around too.

  • @GorillaCookies
    @GorillaCookies 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I had a 86 Bronco 2 and flipped it the 2nd day I had it . I flipped it going about 35 mph when I tuned to go around a bowling ball sized rock in the road. It was unbelievable how easily It flipped over. Broke a vertebrae in my neck and 2 in my back and was wearing my seat belt

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I’m so sorry man, that is awful. How are you doing today?

  • @boostpack609
    @boostpack609 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Seeing a boxy ranger hurts a bit those rigs are hard to kill man the 2.3 iron block with the 3 speed auto is a dangerous combo of reliability and fuel efficiency

  • @Doc1855
    @Doc1855 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    When the Ranger first came out in the 80s with the 2.3L timing belt engine, they were bulletproof.
    If you changed the oil and didn’t abuse it, they could easily go 350K miles.
    The Bronco II was a great idea, but they were top heavy and had a tendency to roll.

  • @arieljones4595
    @arieljones4595 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I always liked the styling of the Bronco. It was simple, handsome, and i really liked the way the rear windows wrap up into the roof. Nice touch.

  • @JamesOKeefe-US
    @JamesOKeefe-US 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Awesome video, perfect for a rainy Sunday. Cheers from North Carolina! Appreciate you! PS, the presentation is great, lots of good information and you deliver it in a really digestible way. I am not a car expert at all so these are fascinating looks into the evolution of these models. Thanks again!

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you James, I appreciate that man. Sorry about those Panthers🤝

    • @James-ik8yz
      @James-ik8yz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where in N.C. ? Moving there soon for Retirement.

    • @James-ik8yz
      @James-ik8yz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just got a 81 and 82 T Bird amd a Turbo. Also have the SVO Mustang. 5 spd. Sleeper 😊.

    • @JamesOKeefe-US
      @JamesOKeefe-US 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@James-ik8yz Hey James, Just north of Raleigh :). Moved here from Maryland like 30 years ago and never left. Love it here :)

  • @user-kk4xg7fb7h
    @user-kk4xg7fb7h 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love ur channel, low-key straight to the point and informative

  • @spencevans
    @spencevans 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    So just a bit of information on the 1985-87 Mitsubishi 4d55 turbo diesel found in the Ford Ranger and Ford Bronco II. It produced 86hp and 134ft lbs of torque. It was a very reliable motor. The 4d55/56 started production in 1982 and is still in production in countries like the Philippines. It's amazing this engine has been in production for 42 years. New parts are readily available and easy to find. It is truly a legendary engine and was the first turbo diesel engine ever offered in a pickup for the North American market.

    • @johnharris3362
      @johnharris3362 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I remember having a neighbor who was in love with diesel escorts, It seemed everyone was on the diesel bandwagon in those days.

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A buddy had an 84 diesel ranger.
      Pretty sure it was non turbo and I thought it was a Mazda engine.
      We got it 2mph shy of pegging the 85mph speedometer down the biggest grade around.

  • @BEATNIKMACHINE
    @BEATNIKMACHINE 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great bloody job man, big love from Cape Town South Africa, big fan of the format you got down here keep on brotherman , I look forward to watching you and your channel grow and expand exponentially !

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much man, I remember your comments from videos back. I appreciate it🤝

  • @dmandman9
    @dmandman9 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Although the 3.3 6 cyl was the base engine, I can’t remember actually seeing any T-Bird or Cougar XR-7 with the 6 cylinder engine. Most had the 5.0 (decent acceleration for the times) or for the 82 models the 255 v8 (an engine most of us try to forget ).

    • @ItsDaJax
      @ItsDaJax 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The 3.3 was replaced with the 2.3, If I recall, when the 3.3 stopped being made in either 81 or 82 and replaced with the 2.8 Cologne or Essex v6, which was replaced with a 3.8 version.

    • @milfordcivic6755
      @milfordcivic6755 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Tbird had the 3.8 v6 instead

    • @dmandman9
      @dmandman9 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ItsDaJax To my knowledge the thunderbird and cougar xr7 never used the 4 cyl in that generation. The “regular “ cougar (the stable mate to the Granada) did. However In the next generation, the Thunderbird did offer a turbo 4 cyl, I believe. In 1982 the 3.8 became the base engine replacing the 3.3. And the 3.8 v6 also became the base engine for that generation. To my knowledge The cologne v6 was never used in the Thunderbird or cougar but was used for a while in the fox mustang along with the 3.3

    • @BlackPill-pu4vi
      @BlackPill-pu4vi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The first new car I ever bought was a 1980 Ford Fairmont 4-dr with the 255 V8. It must've been made on a Wednesday because I never had any problems with it and partly because I've always been good about ensuring that maintenance was done.
      The 255 was a sorry excuse for a V8 but, once I desmogged it and changed out the jets in the carb, it became a decent grocery getter and commuter (no smog checks where I lived). It felt peppier around town and only when trying to pass somebody at 50 mph or above did the 255 remind me that it wasn't a 302. But, all in all, that car was a good one.

    • @dmandman9
      @dmandman9 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BlackPill-pu4vi the 255 was a good engine mechanically. It was simply low on power. And the Fairmont was a solid car in it's day. Nothing fancy. But solid transportation . Initial reviews place it below the GM x bodies. But as the miles rolled on, the Fairmont ol proved itself much more reliable and solid than the x cars from GM or the k cars from Chrysler

  • @Jimnva
    @Jimnva 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I worked at a ford dealership at the time of the cars you say are bad. First of all, the Bronco II was really a nice vehicle. You could not beat that thing in the snow and it was awesome to drive. Yeah, some people rolled theirs, but I know people that rolled S-10 Blazers and full sized Bronco's. The other cars, Like the T-Bird, were just Fox Body Mustangs with less HP and different sheet metal. They were not that bad. With the V8 and the TRX wheels and tires, they were really nice. The cars back then were not the greatest by todays standard, But the were very competitive with everybody else.

  • @andregonsalvez9244
    @andregonsalvez9244 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great show ! I enjoyed watching these old videos and kinda get down looking @ what we have to drive today ( 2023/24 ) nothing but crossovers today. I totally agree that some of these propane powered cars and trucks were slow and also dangerous .

  • @ohioalphornmusicalsawman2474
    @ohioalphornmusicalsawman2474 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I started driving in '87, so research for me into this topic involves accessing memory lane. My vote on the best Ford of this era?? A Fairmont powered by the 200 ci inline 6. Decent torque and gas mileage, easy to work on, and ran forever. This motor was not fast, but quick out of a light at low RPM, adequate cruising and hill pulling power on the open road, and good on ⛽

    • @kalemathews1899
      @kalemathews1899 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Those and the panther platform cars looked and drove well. After growing up in one and now owning another, I'd say the 2 door grand marquis was alright.

    • @gregorymalchuk272
      @gregorymalchuk272 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What year was your Fairmont?

  • @pwceng17ine
    @pwceng17ine 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I had a 1986 Bronco II XLT, I loved it 👍 It's amazing, I still see a few on the road today

  • @PoloDavey
    @PoloDavey 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    love it keep up the great work bro

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Appreciate it, thank you!

  • @LeeGGarrison
    @LeeGGarrison 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Just wanted to point out a couple things first ford did attempt to venture deep into diesels specifically with the escort and tempo and the 80 tbird with a 5.0 was a great car I loved mine

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I didn’t know this thank you

    • @ItsDaJax
      @ItsDaJax 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They also made a 4wd Tempo briefly. Not awd, 4wd.

    • @LeeGGarrison
      @LeeGGarrison 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The 4wd tempo and Aerostar were both great vehicle’s especially in the snow my father had a 4wd tempo as a demo and it was absolutely unstoppable as long as the snow didn’t get too deep

  • @johnweisinger7390
    @johnweisinger7390 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Escort and Tempo also were available with the Mazda diesel engine

  • @rrice1705
    @rrice1705 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    HI Green Hawk, I just found your channel. That was a good overview, thanks for making. It's kind of fun to look back, shake your head, and ponder what the hell they were thinking. Compared to what it was in the 60s, the early 80s Thunderbirds are just sad. I get they had to downsize for reasons of economy, but it's like they were determined to make the car as boring as possible. Everything about it seems to scream "malaise-era".

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Welcome aboard man, thank you for subscribing!

  • @aaronwilliams6989
    @aaronwilliams6989 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    GM did pretty good, Chrysler did FAAR worse than Ford with its 2nd generation Cordoba and Marada .That's why they ended up leaving that market segment after just 4 years.

  • @DJLewProductionsInc
    @DJLewProductionsInc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I had a Bronco II, and I was T boned, but mine did not roll over, and it protected my passenger and me pretty well. I had no injuries, but my passenger had a cut on the top of his head. I liked the styling, and I did add Explorer rims, which fit and made it look and drive better.

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you are both okay, very scary. very.

  • @fransb8543
    @fransb8543 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent. You have a new subscriber!

  • @Winters_Folly
    @Winters_Folly 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great stuff, kerp it up.

  • @OLDS98
    @OLDS98 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You You keep working on your channel. The more you do, the better you will become. You will gain experience and learn new things. I was about to mention the diesel Lincoln, but you did. I think it is great that you are doing your channel and sharing what you have learned. I do recall the early 80's Thunderbird and Mercury Cougar. They were nicely loaded especially for the time. They overhauled them for 1983. They rode the success of that change well into the 1990's.

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you again, OLDS, for the wonderful support.

    • @OLDS98
      @OLDS98 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GreenHawkDrive You are welcome.

  • @sbcee2220
    @sbcee2220 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of my good buddies drove one of these in high school. We didn't think it was ugly, just kind of boring. It was solid driving though, and way more reliable than my Scout II and my other friend's 260z. Good video. I've watched maybe 7 or 8 of yours and finally subscribed.
    You don't have to, but if you want to polish your delivery for the voice-over, just go through the script a few times more, thereby taking out some of the ums and ahs, as well as using shorter takes and stitching them together. That's just my 2 cents and only b/c you said something about it in this video. Looking forward to more!

  • @waynethomas1546
    @waynethomas1546 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I loved my Bronco II. If you know how to drive, they're not unsafe.

  • @ChrisTallant
    @ChrisTallant 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent research.

  • @qmusclecars
    @qmusclecars 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video. Thank you.

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you liked it!

  • @tedstipsforemsstudents4951
    @tedstipsforemsstudents4951 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Had an 88 Bronco II Eddie Bauer Edition. Liked it, but it always felt like it was walking on tiptoes. Traded it a year later for a 1989 Taurus SHO. Quite a difference.

  • @patrickhall6755
    @patrickhall6755 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another hit piece ya. We need a video ranking worst hit piece videos

  • @dannydaw59
    @dannydaw59 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My dad bought a used 8th gen Thunderbird. I never realized that it only had 88hp. The seats and suspension made the ride comfy.

  • @carlc5748
    @carlc5748 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Very good analysis of the 80's Fords! I did not know of the short-lived propane models. In your commentary about the diesel ranger, you apparently had no critique of the Mitsubishi 2.3 turbo diesel in the ranger, and imo, rightly so. I extensively test drove a new Mitsubishi turbo diesel truck in 1985, and was pretty impressed with it's drivability. Mitsubishi used a very small impellor that caused the turbocharger to spool up at lower rpms, which negated the most common complaints of the diesel engines, and they had their "silent shaft" to smooth the engine, as well. I also test drove a Toyota diesel truck, new, a 1985, and the Mitsubishi drove better than it.
    You may not have known this, but, also in the mid 1980's Galpin Ford, in the San Fernando Valley, Sepulveda/Van Nuys, Calif; which was the number one Ford dealer in the USA, for decades, sold 100% alcohol cars! They had their own service station, across the street from the dealership that dispensed 100% alcohol. I would buy the alcohol blended gasohol from that station to use in my D50, and Toyota truck. it apparently was a short lived experiment that lasted maybe a year-and-a-half. Years later I bought a first year, 1989 Taurus SHO, from Galpin Ford. That car would certainly get my vote for the best Ford car for the 1980's!! Thanks for your Vlog!!

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow, I definitely did not know that. Thank you man, I enjoyed the read! SHO’s are awesome🤝👍

    • @carlc5748
      @carlc5748 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The name of the fuel company across from Galpin Ford was called "Future Fuels of America", where the 100% alcohol was dispensed from.@@GreenHawkDrive

  • @hdrangers
    @hdrangers 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    It's not the "Blue Circle", it's an oval. You start off showing a Mustang II. The Mustang II was sold in the mid - late 70s. Some "extensive research".

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah my mistake. I know the mustang ll was offered in the last 70s, it’s a car most people are aware of as being a failure and so I used it in the intro to help draw people in.

    • @TomSnyder-gx5ru
      @TomSnyder-gx5ru 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was around when the mustangII came out and it was a smashing success.They came out just as the first energy crisis hit (perfect timing) and my Ford salesman uncle at the time said he sold a lot of these himself and Ford could barely keep up with the demand. I think the mustang II actually saved the mustang name. @@GreenHawkDrive

    • @ItsDaJax
      @ItsDaJax 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@GreenHawkDrive People call it a failure but was the first mustang to sell one million, and held that title until the s550. It saved Ford.

    • @ronaldarchibald2506
      @ronaldarchibald2506 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I liked the mustang II. Only drove one once but it was decent little car. Hard to find one now.

    • @hdrangers
      @hdrangers 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ronaldarchibald2506 l drive a '74 Mustang ll. Had her since new. Even the 8-track works. 366,000 miles.

  • @mattdonna9677
    @mattdonna9677 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I still have my 1980 Ford F-150 shortbed truck with the 4.9 inline 6cylinder. Garage kept, all original, 74,659 actual miles. It's a keeper.

  • @derekgilbert2884
    @derekgilbert2884 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You forgot Ford Fairmont 1978/1983, Mercury Zephyr and front of Fairmont as truck Ford Durango 1979/1982. This my first time watching your video not bad I hope see other videos from you. Good luck with videos.

  • @Stevenimich
    @Stevenimich 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The 80-82 fox body Cougars and a TBirds are now considered snazzy classics to have. They were very polarizing cars. I have a 1981 Mercury Cougar XR7. It turns heads everywhere I go and when I take it to car shows.

  • @Reaganpopperno1
    @Reaganpopperno1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Much better, good job.

  • @pcno2832
    @pcno2832 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    12:35 The sight of that rearview mirror aimed at the roof made me think of the late 1970s when I used to work with this 90+ year-old guy who drove a Mercury Bobcat. One evening, he gave me a ride home and he crawled along at 15 MPH all the way. By the end of the trip (he lived around the corner from me) he was leading something that looked like a funeral procession and he had practically snapped the mirror off trying to divert the light from all of those high beams. After that, I found other means of transportation when my car was in the shop.

  • @LSDdreams808
    @LSDdreams808 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome channel

  • @delcorick9967
    @delcorick9967 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That s10 blazer what a beautiful 4x4, so much better than any bronco II, miss the one my family had, 89 4.3 tahoe s10 blazer exact twin to the one in this video, stunning! and better engineered too. Nice Video!

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Couldn't agree more, and thank you!

  • @5_qm610
    @5_qm610 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I bought a 89 built, 90 ranger with a 2.3 and when reading the Haynes manual it mentions the diesel and thought that was one of the oddest things I’ve seen. Especially since I had the 2.3 and that thing was struggling a lot lol

  • @ronaldmiller2740
    @ronaldmiller2740 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    HI GHD,, I AGREE WITH YOUR RATINGS VERY MUCH!! S-F... WHATCHING YOUR VIDEO'S SECOND TIME,, GREAT!! I GREW UP IN THE 60S AND HAD MANY OF CARS BUT I NEVER HAD A CAR WITH PROPANE,, BUT GOING IN THE ARMY IN THE MIDDLE 70S I MISSED IT ALL,... BUT GETTING OUT AND BUYING ONLY TO THIS DAY 50-60-70S CARS ONLY WITH MY SON MAX 8 YR.S OLD HE SAYS PROPANE?? HA!!! WE HAVE A 1978 BUICK, 1958 DODGE CUSTOM ROYALE SWEEP WING,,.. WE LOVE YOUR CHANNEL BUT NOT INTO THE 2000 CARS .. PEACE!!!

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for your service, it’s an honor. I’m speechless. 🇺🇸 Thank you for support with the channel❤️

    • @ronaldmiller2740
      @ronaldmiller2740 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      WE THANK YOU SIR,, HAPPY HOLIDAY !!!!@@GreenHawkDrive

  • @jmace1957
    @jmace1957 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had a brand new 1983 Mercury Cougar. In 18 months (6 months after the warranty expired), it started rusting...bad. Lived in Texas with no salt on the road.

  • @autochatter
    @autochatter 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great vid! Those diesel Rangers went away about the same time alot of other diesel small trucks here did by the mid 80s. Gas was cheap, so why pay more to go slower?

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Great point! Thanks again for the support🤝😎

    • @autochatter
      @autochatter 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GreenHawkDrive You know it! Look forward to your next one.

    • @PapiDoesIt
      @PapiDoesIt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Chevrolet had diesel options for the S-10 and Luv, Mitsubishi had them, and even Dodge in the D-50 (rebadged Mitsubishi) and D-150 (made by Nissan and later replaced by a Cummins). Nissan had one too.

  • @Simple_Jack82
    @Simple_Jack82 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My Bronco 2 was one of my favorite cars ever. Never came close to rolling it.

  • @narrowhwy114
    @narrowhwy114 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2 things...the '80-'82 turdbirds were infamous for dropping their red rear taillight covers because they were glued on with some adhesive that failed within a few years.
    2nd, pontiac gran prixes, monte carlos were G-body cars, not A's. A's were full sized cars like bonneville, caprice/impala, etc.

    • @mattdonna9677
      @mattdonna9677 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I always called them Thunderchickens.😁

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m surprised I got them mixed up. Thank you

  • @TeeroyHammermill
    @TeeroyHammermill 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Anything with a Variable Venturi carburetor were some of the worst Fords as well

    • @ronaldarchibald2506
      @ronaldarchibald2506 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea they were good design for racing but not for street use. If you drove wide open on the highway they worked alright. Police cars had them.

  • @dickritchie2596
    @dickritchie2596 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The bronco II was a pretty good vehicle. It was over-priced for what it was. That was its problem for me in those days.

  • @volks-jager
    @volks-jager 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bronco II also had an idiotic front suspension setup. the twin traction beam is basically another name for swing axles which are prone to causing rollovers

  • @PapiDoesIt
    @PapiDoesIt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My old boss got one of those BMW diesel cars for his wife, and he had me drive it to his house. Acceleration was just plain awful! But it wasn't as bad as the diesel Chevette, which I also had the misfortune to drive.

    • @ItsDaJax
      @ItsDaJax 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      BMW made diesels in the 80s? I know Mercedes did.

  • @edwardaustin740
    @edwardaustin740 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We had 2 Bronco II growing up. That's what I learned to drive in. I have fond memories of them. If I could find one still running I'd buy it. Just got to be careful.

  • @averyparticularsetofskills
    @averyparticularsetofskills 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good Job 👌

  • @robk9685
    @robk9685 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brother in laws sister's husband worked for Ford. Her brand new Zephyr was stalling on the way to the bowling alley. True story.

  • @Heavygravy447
    @Heavygravy447 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @Heavygravy447
      @Heavygravy447 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Always look forward to seeing the 80s videos it's Definitely a neglected time in automotive history

  • @babypluto3746
    @babypluto3746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    glad I discovered this channel

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you man, glad to have your support

  • @catjudo1
    @catjudo1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was going to come and fuss at you when I saw the Ranger, but I see it's the diesel, which I never even knew existed. I owned a V6 with a Mazda-sourced five speed... that little truck was nice and just about bulletproof. It was also perfect for driving around listening/singing along with Waylon Jennings or Hank Williams Jr. I drive a Miata now and when I do that people look at me funny.

  • @ralphhorton9652
    @ralphhorton9652 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    80-82 T birds were mugly, but Gm g bodies improved greatly after 1980.

    • @jeffbranch8072
      @jeffbranch8072 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      G-bodies were great... initially. I've owned 2 used Grand Prix's (1980 LJ and 1987 LE) over the years, and ridden in countless other cars. All G-bodies with a V8 sagged in front, and they all became rattle traps with some age. In the downsizing era the B-body was definitely GM's best.

  • @jacks2627
    @jacks2627 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awe yeah keep em coming baby

  • @HalRappaport
    @HalRappaport 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In 1989, I had a 1981 Mustang, 3.3 litre slant 6. In the rain, I had to open the hood, unscrew the air cleaner, and prop the flap open in the carburetor to start the motor. Running the air conditioner for more than 10 minutes would overheat the engine. Oh, and part of the floor rusted out and the back leg of my drivers seat went through the floor.

  • @ktm42080
    @ktm42080 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My aunt rolled a Bronco 2, she was fine, but really shaken up. I always thought they looked pretty nice, just my opinion. I can't stand the Ford Grenade, I mean Granada, just too boxy. I wish manufacturers would offer more diesel options, especially on small to mid size trucks, I would love a little 4 wheel drive pickup. Great video ✌️

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad she’s okay, very scary. I appreciate the feedback and support!

  • @midwestmind691
    @midwestmind691 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have about 400,000 miles on my 2.3l '90 Ranger. I was told it rolled over twice before I bought it and I'm almost on my second roll over.

  • @mannyzx1
    @mannyzx1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Subscribed! How about best ford/GM/Chrysler of the 80’s?

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Appreciate that man! For sure

  • @robbleblanc
    @robbleblanc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s Blue Oval not Blue Circle lol. Great video!

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're right! Thank you 🤝

  • @danadamson1709
    @danadamson1709 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My folks ordered a 1984 Brono II with a roof rack, they waited 4 months for it, my mom had a connection to Ford, it was shared they had an issue with the roof rack, it was eventually delivered, two tone blue, 5 spd as ordered, the truck was excellent, never one issue the whole time they owned it. 2.8L ...it looked sharp and was extremely reliable

  • @YS-fr6nu
    @YS-fr6nu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video I enjoy everyone that comes out but I wonder how many propane vehicles got shipped up to Canada?

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you man! Gosh, probably a good amount. I’m not exactly sure though.

    • @YS-fr6nu
      @YS-fr6nu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GreenHawkDrive another great video I enjoy everyone. Thank you again from the great white north.🇨🇦

  • @alphawoolf5981
    @alphawoolf5981 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I loved my 81 TBird! Great looking car IMO.

  • @johnstapler5956
    @johnstapler5956 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Rangers are fine. I've seen them bust their asses over the years. I also had an 88 B2 XLT. Loved it.

    • @GreenHawkDrive
      @GreenHawkDrive  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. I’m not dissing the ranger at all,
      just throwing some shade at the diesels due to their short life time!

    • @nathanieladams7624
      @nathanieladams7624 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My dad bought a 1988 Ford Ranger XLT Eddie Bauer Green/Cream two tone from the dealership. He spent months finding one with all the options he wanted. It was a good truck. He had it a bout 15 years. I liked the fold out seats in the back where two people could sit sideways.

  • @ak1ranger
    @ak1ranger 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had never heard of the Mitsubishi 2.3L turbo used in a Ford product, so strange! Considering this was at a time when Chrysler and Mitsubishi were not only sharing engines but entire models like the Saporro, Colt, Starion, Conquest....how did Ford manage to get Mitsubishi engines? My Dad worked at a place that had a lot of fleet Rangers when they came out and I never heard of the Mitsubishi engines, interesting stuff!

  • @georgewilson1184
    @georgewilson1184 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of my first jobs summer of 85 was a service department Porter at a ChicagoLand suburban Ford dealer they had a new diesel Ranger that came in it was bare bones stock I think it had A/C & radio it was a manual had a strange ugly paint scheme some kind of crappy blue & Orange stripe the truck manager told me it was available because the Rail Road over ordered & did not want it the truck manager said he would make me a deal if I wanted it but I said there was no way he asked what were they paying me and I told him his chin dropped to his balls I said yeah it cost me more to get here than what the gig is he just said you poor bastard shook his head & walked away

  • @RockandrollNegro
    @RockandrollNegro 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I drove a 1982 LTD Country Squire station wagon taxicab that ran on propane. It was extremely reliable compared to the gas models. This was in 2004-2005, so the car itself was 22-24 years old while I was driving it. It had an estimated million miles on it. I say estimated because the odometer had stopped working at 200k miles.

  • @jwarehouse1
    @jwarehouse1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Had a Bronco ll.....Worst part was V6 engines cracking cylinder heads.....Great ground clearance made it tippy.....but also had very tight turning radius...decent on gas....great factory radio, AC/ Heater.
    I love the body style of the 80-82 Tbirds....Great cars but under powered. Can make a great "sleeper" with the Fox body platform, and a Mustang V8 swap.....

  • @TheEriccurtis
    @TheEriccurtis 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Had a first generation Escort, was driving down a back road one day and the back hatch window glass imploded all over the back seat, it was a 4 speed stick that felt like a rubber band, if it was raining out the windows would fog up and turn green, and the brakes would lock up while pushing down even gently on the brake peddle and that’s how I wrecked it into the ass end of a truck, oh and the auto track seat belt broke during that wreck , true story bro.

  • @JK-dp3lp
    @JK-dp3lp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I loved the T birds that came out 84 or whatever.. I'd love to find a Fila edition with a 5.0

  • @sombra6153
    @sombra6153 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Back in the 80s, I was driving 70s cars until I bought a new F150 in 89. Only exception was my mother’s 80 Fairmount wagon. Despite cheap, the important components that made it drive down the road held up rather well. I drove 80s Broncos and LTD Crown Vics in law enforcement in the 90s and either platform was pretty durable. I remember specs on the early 90s square body T-Birds and Cougars, as well as LTDs, and Lincoln’s. They never interested me cause I thought they were ugly aAs well as under powered. Never had any interest in the Bronco IIs either.

  • @alexisg311
    @alexisg311 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gran trabajo 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻, nuevo subscriptor 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻.
    Saludos desde Madrid, España, donde los coches no tienen nada que ver 😂😂😂.

  • @markdavis3539
    @markdavis3539 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had an '88 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe and absolutely loved that car.

  • @Keeg02.
    @Keeg02. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ive daily driven a bronco ii for years and never come close to rolling one over. Respect the ride and it will respect you.

  • @jimchristy573
    @jimchristy573 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ranger didn't only have a diesel option but you also had an electric option that was used as around town deliveries veheicles.

  • @Humandriver5280
    @Humandriver5280 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The carburetor on the 302 and some 6s was a nightmare.

    • @markwilliams2620
      @markwilliams2620 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Variable Venturi of Death.

  • @austinwayda94
    @austinwayda94 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ll never forget seeing a bronco II completely engulfed in flames on the side of the highway while some guy was throwing stuff out of the back of it lol. This was only about 8 or 9 yrs ago

  • @collinsje5
    @collinsje5 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After 30+ years of crap from all of the Detroit Big 3, I bought a 2006 Toyota Matrix XR. I've had it 18 YEARS, and it still runs dependably. One reason is that it has the indestructible Toyota 1.8L engine. It sits outside in Chicago winters, and it has never failed to start and doesn't have a particle of rust on it. Toyota Rules!

  • @matthewyingling6490
    @matthewyingling6490 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Still got a 85 bronco II great little truck.

  • @Bryan_in_Ohio_USA-h5z
    @Bryan_in_Ohio_USA-h5z 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a gen 2 'Granola' as a rental car .There was something loose in the strut mechanism, and it only had 27K on it!

  • @Deatomizer
    @Deatomizer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My best freind back in the 80's dad bought a new early 80's Tbird. He loved his car and had it for as long as I can remember.

  • @mustangmike8515
    @mustangmike8515 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You should had to include that weird Ford EXP and the first mustangs III (1979 to 1982)

  • @jeffnelson1643
    @jeffnelson1643 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I drove a 1988 Bronco II and I loved it. Had only two mechanical issues the whole time. The design wasn't the problem, it was the idiots driving recklessly that caused the blackeye for the model.

  • @geraldscott4302
    @geraldscott4302 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The worst Ford car in 1980 by far was the "Foxbody" Mustang, if you could call that hideously ugly POS a Mustang. I don't. It was easily the ugliest American brand car sold in the U.S. But it's problems went even further than that, and applied to all cars built on the Fox platform, including the second generation Granada, Fairmont, and later model Thunderbirds. The Fox platform had pretty much no structural rigidity, and flexed like a wet noodle. Jack one corner up high enough to remove the wheel, and the doors wouldn't open or close. And speaking of jacking, there was no place to jack or lift the car from that wouldn't cause underbody damage. The entire chassis was made from the same super thin sheet metal as the body. The only safe places to jack from were the rear axle, and the front control arms. Ans as if all that weren't bad enough, they rusted like crazy, which may not really be such a bad thing, because it means that many of these disasters aren't around any more.
    I grew up on farms, and all the farmers had their personal trucks, which they replaced every couple of years, mostly Ford F-100s and F-150s, converted to butane, which is also an LPG. They had huge tanks in the bed (back then trucks had real beds) and could be driven halfway across the country without refueling. Engines lasted twice as long because LPG burns so much cleaner it did not cause carbon deposits and contaminate the oil.
    I have never driven a Bronco II, but I certainly wouldn't be afraid to. I have driven lifted Jeep CJs and Suzuki Samurais with no problems. No, you can't drive them like a low wide car, but they were not meant to be driven that way. The only car I ever rolled was way back in 1975, and it was my dads 1963 Rambler station wagon. I lost it in a right angle curve on a gravel road, which I forgot about being there until it was too late. I was going way too fast to make that turn by the time I saw it, so it was my fault. No seatbelts in that car, but I still survived just fine with a few bumps and bruises.

  • @5610winston
    @5610winston 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Major problem with the Bronco II was the tire pressure recommendations for the Firestone Wilderness A/T 2 tires.
    In order to provide a smoother ride Ford recommended lower inflation pressures than Firestone deemed safe for highway speeds.
    Yeah, Firestone of _Firestone 500_ notoriety from the seventies.

  • @jacktheaviator4938
    @jacktheaviator4938 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Perkins Diesel that was in the Ranger was an industrial motor, incredibly common, and parts are super easy to find. Same for the Mitsubishi. That motor didn't just come in Ford trucks, so you can get parts anywhere. They still sell that same motor in Thailand

  • @2006gtobob
    @2006gtobob 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The 1980 Thunderbird and Cougar say a lot to me. I always liked the styling. Since you mentioned Lincoln, the seventh generation Continental with the BMW diesel was also reprehensible.
    As far as the Bronco II is concerned, that rig made me nervous just by looking at it when it came out. I was a 14yr old kid and knew I didn't want to ride around in one.
    Ford would design halfway decent automobiles, then ruin any decent reputation they could've had by stuffing them with half-hearted (or less) 4 cylinder engines that just weren't up to the task building up a good reputation.
    If you want to talk about clean-sheet crap-box 1980's Ford products, the Escort/Lynx and the Tempo/Topaz MUST be included.
    The Malaise Era engines and the big 3 (or 4 depending on what part of the decade we're talking about) just refused to see the light concerning the future. They kept introducing and kept producing pushrod engines that were rough, unrefined, and inefficient while being surrounded by an ocean of smooth, refined OHC engines from Japan.
    When GM introduced the Quad 4, I believe everyone, me included, was hoping GM saw the light of day. Instead, it was rough, somewhat underpowered, and unrefined. It wasn't total junk, but it wasn't what it could've and should've been.
    The 80's was very revealing concerning the American automobile manufacturers. In many ways, they refused to see the light of day, writing on the wall, or just held their customers in utter contempt while the Japanese built themselves up through refinement, efficiency, and volume.