Don't forget "younger" rider means younger than the average Spyder rider, and that's 60-65 years old. So, the "younger" (than 65) rider could still be 40 and up. That's still a large market, especially because they have a lot of disposable income. That's what Can Am is really targeting, not young as in 18-25 year olds.
Good point. But if you ask Can Am, and its associated dealers, they get almost belligerent when you mention their machines being geared toward older riders. I made that mistake once and got lectured lie the guy was my father. lol. Thanks for watching!!
I think the biggest issue is riders keep thinking that the three wheeled Can-am's are aimed at traditional bike riders. But when you look at the younger riders they do have (not a lot but they do have them) not many of them ride motorcycles and the few who do ride, buy them in addition to their bikes. Add to this you have Honda and Yamaha messing around with three wheeler prototypes, its pretty clear someone is seeing a new market for people looking to get out in the elements, but aren't confident in riding two wheels.
Someone like me. I’m 72 years old and don’t want on two wheels any more. But still likes the air in my face. I like the 600 model. Only the Rally is made for off road.
I think you hit the nail on the head with regards to what demographic this trike was built for. This trike is great for the 30up beginner rider. I compared the look to the spider and the spider is just a better looking trike however, the Spyder does not come with a CVT ONLY Transmission. You are also correct that it is more affordable for the more seasoned buyer not the younger group. I don't think you were bashing or hating You just told the truth. I say that because those reasons were the very reasons that made the Ryker appealing to me. A 57 year old motorcycle rider with bad knees and limited funds. I thought to myself this trike looks like a tank but, it fits my needs. Your critique was spot on!😃💯👏🏍
Thank you so much for watching and saying that!! People seem upset and are insulting me because I have an opinion, made an opinion video, and that my opinion doesn't matter but we need to respect everyone's opinion! 😂 Thanks so much for watching!! 👍🏻😎👍🏻
P B That’s what I am saying. It’s priced too high for a younger person. I have more videos coming out that compares the Ryker to other manufacturers “entry-level” motorcycles. Thanks so much for watching!! 👍🏻😎👍🏻
You have younger people buying a variety of bikes at that level r-1’s etc. can an aren’t for traditional bikers or there for someone who wants an additional bike
To be fair, I didn't like the F3 when it was introduced, I thought it was ugly & weird looking. But as time went on, & they added the F3t & Limited, & I saw it in person, I had to have it!!! I think there are a lot of young people that will go for this, in the area I live, we ride year round, so we have a lot of riders everywhere, also high accidents (mostly inexperienced riders on 2 wheels), this may appeal to (as you stated) people who don't have $30k to put on a motorcycle (but a lot of them would, gas mileage, fun factor could change that), & you'd see those who might've gotten a crotch rocket, may consider it. Just my opinion. Great video.
The majority of "young people" aren't interested in motorcycles, period. Most of them in my neighborhood have their hands on small car, a motor scooter, or even an ebike. So yes, I agree with you that neither the Ryker or the Spyder is going to bring that many in the under 30 crowd. BUT, I think the Ryker is still going to be HUGE and a very successful product for Can Am. The Ryker's demographics are going to be those folks in their 30s and 40s that have never ridden a motorcycle but want something like it. In my town, I see this group of people all the time currently riding street legal ATVs as a substitute for a motorcycle. These ATVs rarely have seen dirt and were bought specifically to drive on mostly paved roads and gravel roads in and around town. Every time I meet one the ATV riders at an intersection...they look at my Spyder, greet me with a smile, and have considerable interest. Then I tell them the cost of my RT and they continue driving off on their ATV. I think the Ryker's price range is going to spark a lot of interest in that father or mother with kids still in the house that still needs to play it safe (no two-wheeler) but still need a little adventure in their life for a reasonable price. I hope we at least can shift the average age of a three-wheeler go down a decade or two with something like the the Ryker. Nothing freaks me out more than being 50 and often being the youngest in the group of Spyder ryders I'm riding with.
Unreal, right? I am definitely not an engineer but clock technology has been around for a long time. You'd think that would be the last thing to give you trouble!! lol
Idea: maybe this should be introduced as an "introductory" roadster/ trike? Auto trans, simplistic twist & go (as they put it) design. Cheaper than the typical Spyder, simpler all around, and since it is cheaper it gets somebody on a Can am at a cheaper price who could potentially trade it in for the bigger "toys". No handbrake is inexcusable at this point however..
@@TheGimpyGarage glad to see someone's on the same page with my thoughts on this then! Cool ride if you think of it like that imho. Sure 6K would be nicer but let's be real... trikes are harder to build, and takes more materials. When you think about it like that it makes sense that it costs more than a comparable 2 wheel motorcycle. At the end of the day it's another option for those who want to be out on the open road. I'd love to see a SE6 version of this or even a SM6 in the future. For now I like to think Can am is "testing the waters"
So Gimpy, you don't like this machine. We get it. Also, the Rally is the on road/dirt road version as it has different suspension and sits higher. If I were inclined to go 3 wheels, Ryker all the way. full decked out for less than 1/2 price.
Your point about the lack of a hand lever for the brakes is well taken BUT foot and leg disabilities aren't the only disabilities out there. One of the reasons I'm seriously looking at the Spyder is its lack of clutch and brake levers. Cancer surgery has left me with very limited use of my hands. Enough to ride but not enough strength to squeeze levers, especially in an emergency. The shift paddle and foot brake are deal for me. No one machine is going to be all things to all people, especially to those with special needs. What you (rightly for you) see as a negative I see as a positive.
Maybe for an older transitioning biker that wants to pay a little less??? When I was looking last year, I think I would have given it a second glance, but I think I'm glad I have what I have. Shaft drive is pretty cool though, right?
The shaft drive is awesome and really forward thinking of them. These are strong, beefy machines. A lot beefier than the belt drives on them. I think it would be great for older, transitioning riders but that is a market Can Am seems to be turning and running from. They explicitly are going after the "younger" riders. For some reason they are ignoring what could be and is their base: older riders and riders with physical challenges. For some reason they want to think of themselves as a cool and hip company for the younger crowd. That is not going to happen. Regardless of their price point, there is an attitude point that all young riders have and it ain't on trikes! I, like you, am definitely happy I got what I got when I got it!! 👍🏻😎👍🏻 If this was the choice I was presented with when I got into Can Ams I would have gone for the Harley TriGlide or Freewheeler. That would have been unfortunate! lol
I'm a fan of your channel and a fan of you but you could not be more wrong about the Ryker. First off you sound butt hurt that the Ryker has some superior features than your F3 (drive shaft, price) second when you look at the Ryker you have to think seadoo Spark. Those people(no matter what age) that have always wanted a jet ski can now own one for 5000 dollars. And third ,10,000 is not a lot now a days for millenials. The payment on that is less than 200 per month with 500 down and lastly you will see the Ryker all over college campuses. Students who would have purchased a scooter will get the Ryker instead especially if mommy and daddy are paying for it because of they safety factors Ryker brings to the table. Always like hearing your opinion on Spyder related topics either way
Very good points and comparisons of jet skis! As far as butt hurt... I don't know about that. A drive shaft would be nice and will probably make it's way to the Spyder Roadsters eventually. This could be their "test" of all that. But honestly, the Ryker leaves me jealous of nothing. Actually, no machine is making me jealous. There are machines I really want to own but that want comes more from a health-renewal standpoint than a need for my ego. Being jealous of the Ryker is like being jealous that someone is with a chick with DD breasts and mine has only B cups: the DD chick happens to be 75 pounds overweight and my girl has a stripper's body... nothing to be jealous of there! lol Thanks so much for watching and being here!! 👍🏻😎👍🏻
Hey Gimp, I owned a Rally edition for a year and your pretty much spot on. The marketing is idealist and the real demographics are in, younger people are buying them but not the youth. Women are buying them too and many are being sold soon after by their husbands. BRP has since stopped the off road words and now use off pavement but I’m here to say the owners manual and safety card both say “not for off road use” and the ride is jarring enough. The CVT has mucho low end torque but 55 and up it’s a buzz bomb. Last thing, single nut wheels… WTF? 650ft/lb of torque on and off and a giant special socket…. Stupid. Good videos, god bless!
I think it all goes to personnel preference. What people like. I think Harleys and Goldwings are for old people. I dont see 20 and 30 yr olds saying i want a big ass harley Davidson or Goldwings either.And i dont see 50 or 60 yr olds crying for a Ducati sport bike.Can Am bikes are not for old people. They just like them, we as a society are always labeling s***. I was looking at a iron 883 and youtubers call it a ladies bike. And 883s arent Macho enough. I think your way off base on this one. And a close minded about the spider and the Ryker but still love your Channel, you motivate me on not letting chronic pain stop me from wanting ride.
Two things... I wonder what is being sacrificed that we don't know about: weaker structural materials, electronic components, etc. to make the price drop still affordable. Companies will not ever lose money. They would discontinue a product rather than keep up production to lose money. Secondly, they are only 10 years old and they want to take big chunks out of other companies that have been around for decades. Maybe they're biting off more than they can chew? Slow and steady wins the race. I had two conversations that really started to turn me off. One was with a BRP rep that stated they will NEVER offer factory handbrakes/levers regardless of some riders having difficulties. The second was a dealer close to them saying the goal was to make these machines as cool and as appealing to the broadest audience/market. My question was: How can you reach a broader market when your base is clearly being ignored? That question went unanswered. The response was a smiley face emoji. *facepalm*. lol
I don't know, I am kinda excited about it.....not young...mid fifties..knees hurting...usually ride a Silverwing and a Burgman. I Love the price point and I don't have to hold it up!! So to each it own...your video sounds very negative.
Hate to agree with this guy but this review is pretty well spot on I also have to ask why is a shaft drive not offered on the F3T or the RT Limited instead of the belt drive which most of us are experiencing problems with I also agree with the younger crowd will not flock to buy this but I could be wrong I guess we will have to wait and see what happens
My thoughts exactly! All the Spyders get are some new color options??? Shaft-drive should have been added to the $25,000 machines! Maybe this is a testing board for them to see how it works? I hope!
I think this guy is upset that he spent $32,000 for a belt driven Spyder. This vehicle is awesome and an eye catcher. I get compliments all the time when I ride mine, especially from traditional bike riders. I have a couple of friends with Spyders and they love this machine. He keeps referring to this machine being off road, but the only version that’s designed for off roading is the rally version. Everyone who buys this awesome bike will not regret it.
People close to me in my life got together and bought me a $32,000 belt-driven Spyder. Trust me, I am upset about nothing! lol Enjoy whatever you ride.
@@TheGimpyGarage don't get me wrong, I love the Spyder too. I think it's a bit overpriced though. I was only responding to the guy in the video. They're both great machines. It's all about how you're going to use it and what is your budget. For most people this is a toy and fun machine, and if you already have a car note, $30,000 is a lot to spend.
You want ugly look at a Honda or Harley trike ,they dont look near as good as the Ryker or F3. Ill buy a ryker for several reason , one is i can buy three for what your rt cost ,and i love the rt. Two it is capable of hitting dirt and gravel roads with the shaft drive, a huge improvement over the belt on the rt or fs. Three i like to ride something a little different. The Ryker may not sell a million bikes , but it will sell more to young folks,and middle aged folks and women and old and disabled folks and people that cant or want spend the money for an rt ,or people like me that can see the possibility of this machine. You have a bike that is cheap enough that you can afford to play with it ,I think you will see more after market things for the Ryker than you will the spyders. Oh and as far as credit for young riders ,look around most are driving brand new cars, Enjoy your channel Ron
Most of those young people are driving leased cars that mommy and daddy got for them. Coming home and asking for them to finance the Ryker might be a whole different conversation! Lol Thanks for watching!! 👍🏻😎👍🏻
RIkers island is wild and has its own prison song like the PIRATES SONG OF OLD: 🎶🎶 ON RIKERS ISLAND, ISLAND YOU WONT BE SMILING, SMILING 🎶🎶 THEY WILL CELL YOU WITH JERRY AND HE'LL TAKE YOUR COMSERY🎶🎶🎶
Belt is less unsprung weight than a shaft. Less weight means better suspension reaction and ride. The belt is better functionally. The shaft is only better in that you never have to replace a belt but belts are cheap compared to the cost of a shaft replacement.
Glenn Brown True. Yet the shaft drive bikes I have had seemed to have a better power transfer. I never had a problem with shaft but you’re right, has to be way more expensive than belt replacement!
So negative. This bike was introduced to compete with the entry level 2 wheelers. What do you get with a Harley 883?? Nothing...... EVERYTHING is extra on a Harley.
You're kidding, right? EVERYTHING on Can Am is extra. That's what happens when you buy things... they offer options. For the stock price point you get a lot more power from a Harley for the same money. Negative or realistic?. Go buy a Can Am and make it the way you want it and see how that sticker price goes up. $350 for plastic snap on plates to change the color??? 😂🤣😂
@@TheGimpyGarage Negative....... The 883 develops 45 horsepower. The 600 Rotax develops 47 horsepower. The 1200 Sportster has 67.7 horsepower whereas the 900 Ryker has 77 horsepower. The MSRP of the 883 is $8699 ($uper low) $8999 (Iron). The MSRP of the 1200 Iron is $9999, The Custom $10999 and the Forty Eight $11299. The Can AM Ryker 600 MSRP is $8499. The 900 is $10999. Add up the cost of the "options" on a Harley to make it the way you want it and see how much that sticker price goes up. How much for forward so you are comfortable riding????? OH and you dont even get a glove box on the Harley. Get your facts together next time.
Could’ve been worse Rob, could’ve been called the ‘Dyker’ ! My first thought as well was ‘ why hasn’t the F3 and RT have the shaft drive?’ And, it could be one of those bikes that just don’t look good in a picture, but great in the flesh.
Only time will tell, right? But for the weight of a machine like that, having a two cylinder 600 power plant is not really ideal at all. But, you can get the bigger engine for more money which totally negates the "young" rider market they said they want to break into. It all doesn't make sense at all, to me.
I'm just disappointed that I gave you a "view" for this editorial. Be pissed at Can-Am if you want but this looks like a good machine. It's affordable yet offers others an opportunity to ride a 3 wheeler. You can't touch a used Gold Wing trike or HD trike for anything close to that price much less a new trike with a warranty. It's a good gateway trike. Not to mention that from the videos I've seen so far, it looks to be pretty fun - I'd equate it to a Sportster by function and price but if you had to take this on a day trip because it's the trike you could afford you'd be ok doing it. As for criticizing Can-Am about the front brake lever … it's been 11 years now since the first Spyders hit the road … they've never had a front brake, right? Why are you still complaining?
Now you hit it out of the park with this video. See these are the video that make you a star. Love it love it love it. I can watch this video 20 tims and not get bored. By the way nice apple laptop.
I love it: It’s super fast. Thats scary. Quicker action than my Harley trike. Drives different : Many people CAN NO LONGER RIDE shifting gears: I have arthritis: So quit being a MOTORCYCLE “SNOB! If I want to continue riding this is what I need for around town. It will go 105 MPH. WHAT THE HELL DO YOU FRICKN NEED?????? To ride over speed bumps means you slow down!!!!!!! You have problems with that? Don’t be a jack wagon.
I have multiple sclerosis so you having arthritis is really cute. lol I have a Can Am F3. People should rezlly know their shit before they start talking shit. lol
I have ms and this is just too small. I have a few years of 2 wheeling left but some point 3 wheels will happen. Not on this though. I think they made it so people can have a tiny version of their full-size Can-Am. Lol
Trav Gebhardt I have MS, too. Stay strong man and stay on those two wheels as long as you can. I do love my F3. But this... thing, is an afterthought at best.
Bigdog 1964 Bigdog 1964 It was one of the first ones available. It is a ‘16 I got in March of ‘15. All other dealers in my area said they didn’t expect them in for another 2 months at minimum. Mine was the only one in the tri-state area. That is way earlier than anyone else had them. Plus, I am in Metro NY so prices are higher than you get if you live in the sticks. The dealer also gave me the ISCI brake for free which was around $1,600. With that said, I didn’t like the dealer experience for other reasons. Check out my dealer experience here. 👍🏻😎👍🏻 th-cam.com/video/aDfy7DeRMMA/w-d-xo.html
No way! It looks more like a riding mower than a motorcycle. For me I would rather spend the $20 or $30 thousand for something that looks good and will ride well . There are better looking scooters out there.
James Walters Amen! A lot of manufacturers have machines less than this one whose specs and looks blow this away. I am glad Can Am is thinking but they’re thinking on everyone else’s dime.
Watching this in 2021 - I think they are expanding the market with lower price point products....and ....selling them, opinions are like bellybuttons. ;;)
That ugly I'm with you . Maybe its for the midlife guy that want to look hip. Hey I can ride wifes RT in grass and I can drift it in front yard . Well I could till wife made me stop .
With the front end clearance I guess we have to call ahead and make sure the gravel and dirt road we want to ride is perfectly graded ahead of time. Or, we have to move near the salt flats where they filmed the promo video. lol
Real AUTOMATIC is what I want not semi automatic. If Harley would make a REAL AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION I’d buy one. Sick of shifting in city at a stop signs and traffic lights every 100 yards. I have two sportsters. Going to sell them. Instead of being so negative be glad more people are riding. What a freakin dipwad!!!
This is what you get when you get an old ass HD guy that don't like can am spyder at all so he find things to dislike about the can am... This dude is an joke
They Should have spent their money on a better dealer network! There Service department sucks and this is just a gimmick, come on cam an sort yourselves out has air bus taken you over as well?
Richard Joash Tan Buy the Rally edition and be happy. Why are you here insulting people? I don't want to delete your comments. I believe in giving a people a chance. But if you continue to insult people that is exactly what will happen. Be nice.
Not only is this not the homerun they wanted... this is a lined foul ball that just nailed the chunky lady in the front row along the third baseline in the head! lol
"Reviewing" a machine you have never seen, nor ridden? What? Are you psychic? Do you review restaurants like this, too? I've seen five year olds claim they "don't like" certain foods before they've ever tasted them - your "review" is very similar in mindset. Totally worth ignoring, sense you make huge assumptions with no experience in the matter. You could have saved folks a lot of time, just by posting: "Saw a picture - don't like it." rather than pretending you actually knew something about it.
Boy, you really told me! Twice. You said the same thing on Facebook about another video. Write something new for the next video. And as always, thanks for watching and keep at it!! I appreciate the support! 👍🏻😎👍🏻
But that has to get factored into the cost. How many times do we go to buy something. It's only $499. Then by the time we're done it's $630 out the door. Yes, we need to figure that in. But we never do and it sucks! lol. But okay, I will concede that perhaps I overstated myself there and you are correct. I allowed my hatred for this thing usurp my reason. 😂🤣😂
Don't forget "younger" rider means younger than the average Spyder rider, and that's 60-65 years old. So, the "younger" (than 65) rider could still be 40 and up. That's still a large market, especially because they have a lot of disposable income. That's what Can Am is really targeting, not young as in 18-25 year olds.
Good point. But if you ask Can Am, and its associated dealers, they get almost belligerent when you mention their machines being geared toward older riders. I made that mistake once and got lectured lie the guy was my father. lol. Thanks for watching!!
I think the biggest issue is riders keep thinking that the three wheeled Can-am's are aimed at traditional bike riders. But when you look at the younger riders they do have (not a lot but they do have them) not many of them ride motorcycles and the few who do ride, buy them in addition to their bikes.
Add to this you have Honda and Yamaha messing around with three wheeler prototypes, its pretty clear someone is seeing a new market for people looking to get out in the elements, but aren't confident in riding two wheels.
I will be 49 in JANUARY 2019. Single, no kids Iam swimming in 28, 35 year old women this summer.
"Take your testicles out of the teacup!" Lmao!!
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I love it
Someone like me. I’m 72 years old and don’t want on two wheels any more. But still likes the air in my face. I like the 600 model. Only the Rally is made for off road.
pjfrog10 Having a spyder kept me in the wind. I couldn’t imagine anything without it. You enjoy and be well, sir! 👍🏻😎👍🏻
I think you hit the nail on the head with regards to what demographic this trike was built for. This trike is great for the 30up beginner rider. I compared the look to the spider and the spider is just a better looking trike however, the Spyder does not come with a CVT ONLY Transmission. You are also correct that it is more affordable for the more seasoned buyer not the younger group. I don't think you were bashing or hating You just told the truth. I say that because those reasons were the very reasons that made the Ryker appealing to me. A 57 year old motorcycle rider with bad knees and limited funds. I thought to myself this trike looks like a tank but, it fits my needs. Your critique was spot on!😃💯👏🏍
Thank you so much for watching and saying that!! People seem upset and are insulting me because I have an opinion, made an opinion video, and that my opinion doesn't matter but we need to respect everyone's opinion! 😂 Thanks so much for watching!! 👍🏻😎👍🏻
Loved the video, I’m 24 so I guess this ryker is aimed at me. I would go for it, if it was a little cheaper.
P B That’s what I am saying. It’s priced too high for a younger person. I have more videos coming out that compares the Ryker to other manufacturers “entry-level” motorcycles. Thanks so much for watching!! 👍🏻😎👍🏻
You have younger people buying a variety of bikes at that level r-1’s etc. can an aren’t for traditional bikers or there for someone who wants an additional bike
To be fair, I didn't like the F3 when it was introduced, I thought it was ugly & weird looking. But as time went on, & they added the F3t & Limited, & I saw it in person, I had to have it!!! I think there are a lot of young people that will go for this, in the area I live, we ride year round, so we have a lot of riders everywhere, also high accidents (mostly inexperienced riders on 2 wheels), this may appeal to (as you stated) people who don't have $30k to put on a motorcycle (but a lot of them would, gas mileage, fun factor could change that), & you'd see those who might've gotten a crotch rocket, may consider it. Just my opinion. Great video.
Nsureu hamp Awesome take on this. Thanks for watching and sharing!!
I have seen many younger riders on F3's so for those unable to afford the F3 would consider this.
I think my video tomorrow will put some heavy doubt on that subject. Thanks for watching!!
The majority of "young people" aren't interested in motorcycles, period. Most of them in my neighborhood have their hands on small car, a motor scooter, or even an ebike. So yes, I agree with you that neither the Ryker or the Spyder is going to bring that many in the under 30 crowd. BUT, I think the Ryker is still going to be HUGE and a very successful product for Can Am. The Ryker's demographics are going to be those folks in their 30s and 40s that have never ridden a motorcycle but want something like it. In my town, I see this group of people all the time currently riding street legal ATVs as a substitute for a motorcycle. These ATVs rarely have seen dirt and were bought specifically to drive on mostly paved roads and gravel roads in and around town. Every time I meet one the ATV riders at an intersection...they look at my Spyder, greet me with a smile, and have considerable interest. Then I tell them the cost of my RT and they continue driving off on their ATV. I think the Ryker's price range is going to spark a lot of interest in that father or mother with kids still in the house that still needs to play it safe (no two-wheeler) but still need a little adventure in their life for a reasonable price.
I hope we at least can shift the average age of a three-wheeler go down a decade or two with something like the the Ryker. Nothing freaks me out more than being 50 and often being the youngest in the group of Spyder ryders I'm riding with.
My neighborhood is full of the import car, lawn mower engine exhaust, hat on backwards crowd. I know what you're saying! Thanks for watching!!
True about that clock. My wife’s 2014 ST model’s clock is over 30 minutes ahead.
Unreal, right? I am definitely not an engineer but clock technology has been around for a long time. You'd think that would be the last thing to give you trouble!! lol
They are really fucking up this time I’ll stick with my new f3 and love it
And you are fucking yourself this time, I'll be buying the rally edition anyway along with the fully loaded F3 Limited.
I think it is awesome
Cant wait to it gets here in Australia
Tuned out after that ill-advised LEGO comment...ffs
Come on, that's too easy! lol
Idea: maybe this should be introduced as an "introductory" roadster/ trike? Auto trans, simplistic twist & go (as they put it) design. Cheaper than the typical Spyder, simpler all around, and since it is cheaper it gets somebody on a Can am at a cheaper price who could potentially trade it in for the bigger "toys". No handbrake is inexcusable at this point however..
I agree with everything you said! Their marketing is all off on this one. You hit the nail right on the head! 👍🏻😎👍🏻
@@TheGimpyGarage glad to see someone's on the same page with my thoughts on this then! Cool ride if you think of it like that imho. Sure 6K would be nicer but let's be real... trikes are harder to build, and takes more materials. When you think about it like that it makes sense that it costs more than a comparable 2 wheel motorcycle. At the end of the day it's another option for those who want to be out on the open road. I'd love to see a SE6 version of this or even a SM6 in the future. For now I like to think Can am is "testing the waters"
So Gimpy, you don't like this machine. We get it. Also, the Rally is the on road/dirt road version as it has different suspension and sits higher. If I were inclined to go 3 wheels, Ryker all the way. full decked out for less than 1/2 price.
Your point about the lack of a hand lever for the brakes is well taken BUT foot and leg disabilities aren't the only disabilities out there. One of the reasons I'm seriously looking at the Spyder is its lack of clutch and brake levers. Cancer surgery has left me with very limited use of my hands. Enough to ride but not enough strength to squeeze levers, especially in an emergency. The shift paddle and foot brake are deal for me. No one machine is going to be all things to all people, especially to those with special needs. What you (rightly for you) see as a negative I see as a positive.
Maybe for an older transitioning biker that wants to pay a little less??? When I was looking last year, I think I would have given it a second glance, but I think I'm glad I have what I have. Shaft drive is pretty cool though, right?
The shaft drive is awesome and really forward thinking of them. These are strong, beefy machines. A lot beefier than the belt drives on them. I think it would be great for older, transitioning riders but that is a market Can Am seems to be turning and running from. They explicitly are going after the "younger" riders. For some reason they are ignoring what could be and is their base: older riders and riders with physical challenges. For some reason they want to think of themselves as a cool and hip company for the younger crowd. That is not going to happen. Regardless of their price point, there is an attitude point that all young riders have and it ain't on trikes! I, like you, am definitely happy I got what I got when I got it!! 👍🏻😎👍🏻 If this was the choice I was presented with when I got into Can Ams I would have gone for the Harley TriGlide or Freewheeler. That would have been unfortunate! lol
I'm a fan of your channel and a fan of you but you could not be more wrong about the Ryker. First off you sound butt hurt that the Ryker has some superior features than your F3 (drive shaft, price) second when you look at the Ryker you have to think seadoo Spark. Those people(no matter what age) that have always wanted a jet ski can now own one for 5000 dollars. And third ,10,000 is not a lot now a days for millenials. The payment on that is less than 200 per month with 500 down and lastly you will see the Ryker all over college campuses. Students who would have purchased a scooter will get the Ryker instead especially if mommy and daddy are paying for it because of they safety factors Ryker brings to the table. Always like hearing your opinion on Spyder related topics either way
Very good points and comparisons of jet skis! As far as butt hurt... I don't know about that. A drive shaft would be nice and will probably make it's way to the Spyder Roadsters eventually. This could be their "test" of all that. But honestly, the Ryker leaves me jealous of nothing. Actually, no machine is making me jealous. There are machines I really want to own but that want comes more from a health-renewal standpoint than a need for my ego. Being jealous of the Ryker is like being jealous that someone is with a chick with DD breasts and mine has only B cups: the DD chick happens to be 75 pounds overweight and my girl has a stripper's body... nothing to be jealous of there! lol Thanks so much for watching and being here!! 👍🏻😎👍🏻
Hey Gimp, I owned a Rally edition for a year and your pretty much spot on. The marketing is idealist and the real demographics are in, younger people are buying them but not the youth. Women are buying them too and many are being sold soon after by their husbands. BRP has since stopped the off road words and now use off pavement but I’m here to say the owners manual and safety card both say “not for off road use” and the ride is jarring enough. The CVT has mucho low end torque but 55 and up it’s a buzz bomb. Last thing, single nut wheels… WTF? 650ft/lb of torque on and off and a giant special socket…. Stupid. Good videos, god bless!
I think it all goes to personnel preference. What people like. I think Harleys and Goldwings are for old people. I dont see 20 and 30 yr olds saying i want a big ass harley Davidson or Goldwings either.And i dont see 50 or 60 yr olds crying for a Ducati sport bike.Can Am bikes are not for old people. They just like them, we as a society are always labeling s***. I was looking at a iron 883 and youtubers call it a ladies bike. And 883s arent Macho enough. I think your way off base on this one. And a close minded about the spider and the Ryker but still love your Channel, you motivate me on not letting chronic pain stop me from wanting ride.
We just gotta push through and keep going! Be well and strong!!
Rob, what do you make of the 4k price drop?
Two things... I wonder what is being sacrificed that we don't know about: weaker structural materials, electronic components, etc. to make the price drop still affordable. Companies will not ever lose money. They would discontinue a product rather than keep up production to lose money. Secondly, they are only 10 years old and they want to take big chunks out of other companies that have been around for decades. Maybe they're biting off more than they can chew? Slow and steady wins the race. I had two conversations that really started to turn me off. One was with a BRP rep that stated they will NEVER offer factory handbrakes/levers regardless of some riders having difficulties. The second was a dealer close to them saying the goal was to make these machines as cool and as appealing to the broadest audience/market. My question was: How can you reach a broader market when your base is clearly being ignored? That question went unanswered. The response was a smiley face emoji. *facepalm*. lol
I don't know, I am kinda excited about it.....not young...mid fifties..knees hurting...usually ride a Silverwing and a Burgman. I Love the price point and I don't have to hold it up!! So to each it own...your video sounds very negative.
Andrea Williams Thanks for watching!!
Hate to agree with this guy but this review is pretty well spot on I also have to ask why is a shaft drive not offered on the F3T or the RT Limited instead of the belt drive which most of us are experiencing problems with I also agree with the younger crowd will not flock to buy this but I could be wrong I guess we will have to wait and see what happens
My thoughts exactly! All the Spyders get are some new color options??? Shaft-drive should have been added to the $25,000 machines! Maybe this is a testing board for them to see how it works? I hope!
I think this guy is upset that he spent $32,000 for a belt driven Spyder. This vehicle is awesome and an eye catcher. I get compliments all the time when I ride mine, especially from traditional bike riders. I have a couple of friends with Spyders and they love this machine. He keeps referring to this machine being off road, but the only version that’s designed for off roading is the rally version. Everyone who buys this awesome bike will not regret it.
People close to me in my life got together and bought me a $32,000 belt-driven Spyder. Trust me, I am upset about nothing! lol Enjoy whatever you ride.
@@TheGimpyGarage don't get me wrong, I love the Spyder too. I think it's a bit overpriced though. I was only responding to the guy in the video. They're both great machines. It's all about how you're going to use it and what is your budget. For most people this is a toy and fun machine, and if you already have a car note, $30,000 is a lot to spend.
You want ugly look at a Honda or Harley trike ,they dont look near as good as the Ryker or F3. Ill buy a ryker for several reason , one is i can buy three for what your rt cost ,and i love the rt. Two it is capable of hitting dirt and gravel roads with the shaft drive, a huge improvement over the belt on the rt or fs. Three i like to ride something a little different.
The Ryker may not sell a million bikes , but it will sell more to young folks,and middle aged folks and women and old and disabled folks and people that cant or want spend the money for an rt ,or people like me that can see the possibility of this machine.
You have a bike that is cheap enough that you can afford to play with it ,I think you will see more after market things for the Ryker than you will the spyders.
Oh and as far as credit for young riders ,look around most are driving brand new cars,
Enjoy your channel
Ron
Most of those young people are driving leased cars that mommy and daddy got for them. Coming home and asking for them to finance the Ryker might be a whole different conversation! Lol Thanks for watching!! 👍🏻😎👍🏻
RIkers island is wild and has its own prison song like the PIRATES SONG OF OLD: 🎶🎶 ON RIKERS ISLAND, ISLAND YOU WONT BE SMILING, SMILING 🎶🎶 THEY WILL CELL YOU WITH JERRY AND HE'LL TAKE YOUR COMSERY🎶🎶🎶
Shaft Drive should be an upgrade for our belt drive machines.
rg amore Hopefully this is a test for future roadsters!
Belt is less unsprung weight than a shaft. Less weight means better suspension reaction and ride. The belt is better functionally. The shaft is only better in that you never have to replace a belt but belts are cheap compared to the cost of a shaft replacement.
Glenn Brown True. Yet the shaft drive bikes I have had seemed to have a better power transfer. I never had a problem with shaft but you’re right, has to be way more expensive than belt replacement!
I wish my RT had a Shaft drive.
James ES44AC -2 Same here on my F3. Hopefully, this is a test for shaft drive for future roadsters.
So negative. This bike was introduced to compete with the entry level 2 wheelers. What do you get with a Harley 883?? Nothing...... EVERYTHING is extra on a Harley.
You're kidding, right? EVERYTHING on Can Am is extra. That's what happens when you buy things... they offer options. For the stock price point you get a lot more power from a Harley for the same money. Negative or realistic?. Go buy a Can Am and make it the way you want it and see how that sticker price goes up. $350 for plastic snap on plates to change the color??? 😂🤣😂
@@TheGimpyGarage Negative....... The 883 develops 45 horsepower. The 600 Rotax develops 47 horsepower. The 1200 Sportster has 67.7 horsepower whereas the 900 Ryker has 77 horsepower. The MSRP of the 883 is $8699 ($uper low) $8999 (Iron). The MSRP of the 1200 Iron is $9999, The Custom $10999 and the Forty Eight $11299. The Can AM Ryker 600 MSRP is $8499. The 900 is $10999. Add up the cost of the "options" on a Harley to make it the way you want it and see how much that sticker price goes up. How much for forward so you are comfortable riding????? OH and you dont even get a glove box on the Harley. Get your facts together next time.
If i did not have the spyder and rode 2 wheels I think i would have a street glide.
Greatrydes Indian Chieftain Dark Horse for me! 😎
@@TheGimpyGarage thats a nice bike!!
Could’ve been worse Rob, could’ve been called the ‘Dyker’ ! My first thought as well was ‘ why hasn’t the F3 and RT have the shaft drive?’ And, it could be one of those bikes that just don’t look good in a picture, but great in the flesh.
Only time will tell, right? But for the weight of a machine like that, having a two cylinder 600 power plant is not really ideal at all. But, you can get the bigger engine for more money which totally negates the "young" rider market they said they want to break into. It all doesn't make sense at all, to me.
I'm just disappointed that I gave you a "view" for this editorial. Be pissed at Can-Am if you want but this looks like a good machine. It's affordable yet offers others an opportunity to ride a 3 wheeler. You can't touch a used Gold Wing trike or HD trike for anything close to that price much less a new trike with a warranty. It's a good gateway trike. Not to mention that from the videos I've seen so far, it looks to be pretty fun - I'd equate it to a Sportster by function and price but if you had to take this on a day trip because it's the trike you could afford you'd be ok doing it.
As for criticizing Can-Am about the front brake lever … it's been 11 years now since the first Spyders hit the road … they've never had a front brake, right? Why are you still complaining?
If you're able to ride without disability... that must be nice. Either way, thanks for the view!! lol
Now you hit it out of the park with this video. See these are the video that make you a star. Love it love it love it. I can watch this video 20 tims and not get bored. By the way nice apple laptop.
Thank you! Don't worry, I still have some motovlogs in the pipe! lol I love my Mac. I made the switch in 1999 and have never looked back!
this guy is funny.. he called it a Lego Moonrover
I love it: It’s super fast. Thats scary. Quicker action than my Harley trike. Drives different : Many people CAN NO LONGER RIDE shifting gears: I have arthritis: So quit being a MOTORCYCLE “SNOB! If I want to continue riding this is what I need for around town. It will go 105 MPH. WHAT THE HELL DO YOU FRICKN NEED?????? To ride over speed bumps means you slow down!!!!!!! You have problems with that? Don’t be a jack wagon.
I have multiple sclerosis so you having arthritis is really cute. lol I have a Can Am F3. People should rezlly know their shit before they start talking shit. lol
You sound so negative. Honestly I’m looking into getting a ryker. Looks like a ton of fun and I absolutely love the look.
I have ms and this is just too small. I have a few years of 2 wheeling left but some point 3 wheels will happen. Not on this though. I think they made it so people can have a tiny version of their full-size Can-Am. Lol
Trav Gebhardt I have MS, too. Stay strong man and stay on those two wheels as long as you can. I do love my F3. But this... thing, is an afterthought at best.
You paid $32k for f3 special edition...then the dealer screwed you! JMO
Bigdog 1964 Bigdog 1964 It was one of the first ones available. It is a ‘16 I got in March of ‘15. All other dealers in my area said they didn’t expect them in for another 2 months at minimum. Mine was the only one in the tri-state area. That is way earlier than anyone else had them. Plus, I am in Metro NY so prices are higher than you get if you live in the sticks. The dealer also gave me the ISCI brake for free which was around $1,600. With that said, I didn’t like the dealer experience for other reasons. Check out my dealer experience here. 👍🏻😎👍🏻 th-cam.com/video/aDfy7DeRMMA/w-d-xo.html
No way! It looks more like a riding mower than a motorcycle. For me I would rather spend the $20 or $30 thousand for something that looks good and will ride well . There are better looking scooters out there.
James Walters Amen! A lot of manufacturers have machines less than this one whose specs and looks blow this away. I am glad Can Am is thinking but they’re thinking on everyone else’s dime.
Watching this in 2021 - I think they are expanding the market with lower price point products....and ....selling them, opinions are like bellybuttons. ;;)
That ugly I'm with you . Maybe its for the midlife guy that want to look hip. Hey I can ride wifes RT in grass and I can drift it in front yard . Well I could till wife made me stop .
But I do not care because your opinion and your comment are as ugly as your mom. I will buy the rally edition anyway.
Richard Joash Tan We don't insult each other here. If this is how you're going respond to people then go somewhere else.
With the front end clearance I guess we have to call ahead and make sure the gravel and dirt road we want to ride is perfectly graded ahead of time. Or, we have to move near the salt flats where they filmed the promo video. lol
Real AUTOMATIC is what I want not semi automatic. If Harley would make a REAL AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION I’d buy one. Sick of shifting in city at a stop signs and traffic lights every 100 yards. I have two sportsters. Going to sell them. Instead of being so negative be glad more people are riding. What a freakin dipwad!!!
Dipwad? lol Thanks for watching!!
Dude this was way longer than a lot of your rides lol it’s all good their tryin just not very well
Matthew Zuck It show’s they’re thinking!!
Overpriced with weak engines. Sad. Should be around $6k.
But I do not care of what you say. I will buy the rally edition anyway.
Richard Joash Tan Do they not allow people to have differing opinions where you come from?
My thoughts exactly! A machine to "tool" around on for fun is not $10,000. $6,000 is more like it
Richard Joash Tan : buy it and tell me what you think. My concern is CVT tranny, under power engine, and maybe cheaper electronics.
This is what you get when you get an old ass HD guy that don't like can am spyder at all so he find things to dislike about the can am... This dude is an joke
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They Should have spent their money on a better dealer network! There Service department sucks and this is just a gimmick, come on cam an sort yourselves out has air bus taken you over as well?
stephen bryson I agree. Their dealer network has a lot of room for improvement. They should look at Indian’s model.
You can get a new f3 for 18000 I did why would buy this POS
Because you are a bullshit.
Agreed. That's what I did. And it was for 17000....I know, plus, plus, plus
But I do not care. I will buy the rally edition anyway.
Richard Joash Tan Buy the Rally edition and be happy. Why are you here insulting people? I don't want to delete your comments. I believe in giving a people a chance. But if you continue to insult people that is exactly what will happen. Be nice.
Not only is this not the homerun they wanted... this is a lined foul ball that just nailed the chunky lady in the front row along the third baseline in the head! lol
"Reviewing" a machine you have never seen, nor ridden? What? Are you psychic? Do you review restaurants like this, too? I've seen five year olds claim they "don't like" certain foods before they've ever tasted them - your "review" is very similar in mindset. Totally worth ignoring, sense you make huge assumptions with no experience in the matter. You could have saved folks a lot of time, just by posting: "Saw a picture - don't like it." rather than pretending you actually knew something about it.
Boy, you really told me! Twice. You said the same thing on Facebook about another video. Write something new for the next video. And as always, thanks for watching and keep at it!! I appreciate the support! 👍🏻😎👍🏻
I hate to say it, but this guy's kind of a jerk 🙂
You don’t know me. I guarantee you’d use another word if you did! Lol
@@TheGimpyGarage I get called worse too 🤣
@@TheGimpyGarage BTW - is not fair to include tax, title, and license in your price complaint. You're going to pay that anyway no matter what you buy.
But that has to get factored into the cost. How many times do we go to buy something. It's only $499. Then by the time we're done it's $630 out the door. Yes, we need to figure that in. But we never do and it sucks! lol. But okay, I will concede that perhaps I overstated myself there and you are correct. I allowed my hatred for this thing usurp my reason. 😂🤣😂