For anyone confused at 9:14 : you can no longer choose right-click > exclude .................. it's been replaced by the check-boxes to the left of the object names in the Outliner ....................
I really hope they add a better way to manage collections other than the outliner. The only way I really use the layers in blender 2.7x is to manage my exports, helper objects and backup objects while occasionally moving things to a render layer I've set up. I love how in 2.7x you can simply and quickly turn layers on and off directly from the ui in 2.7x and in 2.8 that looks super slow and awkward in comparison. Lots of scrolling and no clear way to quickly see which collections are visible currently for example. Dividing the outliner to two helps but takes tons of space when I already would prefer the outliner to be smaller as it is pretty useless in blender (multiselections are practically impossible for example). I really hope they keep working on this because for me this is a huge flaw in 2.8 (along with the removal of the w key). I understand that folder like structure where collections can be under other collections makes it more difficult to create small compact ui like layers had but the total omission of the ui for the collections should be a big issue. The way it is now in 2.8 works fine for small sample scenes with handful of objects but it totally breaks down when you have hundreds of objects and tens of collections because you either need to sacrifice lots of screenspace to get an overview of the situation or work blind relying on your memory.
yeah, last I heard they are still cleaning it up but so far it does work fairly closely to how the old system worked but it really feels different. reason i split the outliner that way so it sort of feels the same kind of, I do like being able to see that objects on in each collection and the unlimited number of collections but it does get a bit crazy. the groups and collections being one thing is confusing
YOU, SIR! YOU! THANK YOU! Now I know how to exclude lights from affecting other objects xD Collections, view layers and exclusions. Seriously, thank you!
@@ArtInMotionStudios I've honestly struggled with the idea of excluding light sources and objects (or linking them to only be rendered together) and, well, this video might be a bit old, but it helped a hell lot. Looking forward to more content.
One of the best blender tutorial out there, and on a useful subject that is not very known or explained! Well done! Can't wait to see more tutorials from you!
thank you very much, great overview of the new possibilities of the collections. I've seen the video 2 months ago and was thrilled, but unfortunately I forgot where it was exactly on youtube. luckily found again :-). thank you very much, that is very helpful
Yeah ! I got it ! I got it here ! Thanks After this I was able to render different objects at different Render layers. Gave you a like and a subscribe👍
A reaaaally good tutorial! :) I got most I wanted to know about Blender layers as someone who's native environment is Autodesk Maya :) Keep a great job!
Thanks for the tut I genuinely liked it & learned some things. I lol'ed around 14:58 when you reminded us this is doable in Photoshop and might be a hellava lot easier :-D Still cooler in Blender tho
Since this vid was made there have been some changes: after you've put an object inside it's own collection, there's now a quicker way to get it into it's own view layer: click the "add view layer" button (top right in the outliner) and choose :blank. Now you have a view layer with everything disabled. Now you can select the object you want isolated and press alt + E .......... note that even if the camera is disabled, the render will still take place from the camera's viewpoint. Not true with lighting, lights need to be enabled or won't render. And another little time saver is: to name the new layer the same as the object, just drag the object onto the view layer name slot!
Good notes thank you, this was made when it was still in development so it was intended as a jump start to those who were struggling with the transition. So it's really outdated and fairly basic.
Im not even sure if that shift works, it states parenting.. EDIT Shift is when you need to parent to an object inside a collection. If you dont use shift you cant parent in the outliner. Its very handy that we can parent object in that way as well. The outliner has many shortcuts btw. Focusing on selected objects is super nice, hitting period instantly focusses the view in the list on your object. I use that all the time. Shift + A opens all items, so it unfolds them. I wish there was also a mirror hotkey for ctrl click on the visibility, now it hides all others, but there is not shortcut to show all others again.
The current method to organize "render layers" is again to much clicking. So many things have been changed which need way more clicking. I also miss the the UI list we had. In one glance you could see all layers and cycling over them was way more intuitive and faster. Im gonna try to build it back in for the Amaranth addon.
So I started this software just yesterday and already learned a handful of things. Problem is, I'm running into little issues. I'm very new to animations. It's my new hobby. I watched this video to get an idea about layers and I thought I had figured it out, but it turns out I still don't know how to add the layer to my collections after making a new one. (I forgot to mention I'm learning how to use the 2D animation. I don't know if that makes a difference)
Hello! How to use blender layers in animation? - I want: 1. Mist, that I create in render layers, was in frames. 2. Effects, that I create in render layers, was in frames.
Mist is found in render passes not in the layers. Either way once you have set up your render layers it should work when you press Cntl F12 for animation or f12 for still exactly the same way. join my Discord I will see if i can help, sounds like you are having a very odd issue.
This Isolate-Funktion with CTRL should also work without collections , this would be nice.....but in general this is not a very fast way, because you have to render all layers seperately + all layers together...If you render an animation with lots of things going on this would be inpossible to render.....I am just a beginner in Blender, maybe I didn´t understand it right, but I tested it and it renders every Layer ....I think therefore it would be better to render with Object Indexes or Buffers I don´t know....
This was just an demonstration of collection and render layers. there are hundreds of ways to do things when compositing, each with their pros and cons.
@@ArtInMotionStudios Thanx! I go further, and made it even more handy... I add a shortcut to select all the group (collection) by just double click on any object from group! now selection is really fast) I did it by adding the new keybend of the "function object.select_grouped" I choose type "collections" in it and set mouse double click button to activate it
I have my collections arranged exactly as you do, but I'm unable to hide them when I click the eyeball; I have to Shift+click. Is that a 2.91 thing, do you suppose?
Thanks, man, I was thinking to get into compositing, started with yours, all well explained. I didn't understand how to save the file output node results after plugging them into the individual image sequences? and when should I do this in case of an animation image sequence? pre render or post?
@@ArtInMotionStudios I was aware of multiple passes, so we can't separately output elements in animation? I understand that is less likely as interdependent properties like bounce light, reflections will cause undesired occurance .
@@neail5466 you can some things can be an issue but depends on the scene so chances are you should have not problems with animation might require some playing around and experimentation. if you do run into any issues.
Hi, I know I'm late but I need help. Will the separate view (render) layers method work if I want to exclude certain lights from affecting some objects? If I put a light osurce in a view layer, it won't affect objects in a different view layer right? Also what if the light source is animated to move in a circle, how do I composite that with other view layers, since it's multiple images?
Yes if the lights aren't added to a view layer they wont light the objects in the view layer. Animated objects work exactly the same way as a still imaged being rendered
Quick Question. In Blender 2.82 I'm not able to hide/unhide the objects in the groups with the eye icon (It's on the left side in this Blender version). Instead, I have to right-click on the group go to visibility and click on Isolate. If I want to unhide a group I need to enter it and manually select each objects and uncheck the eye icon. Am I doing something wrong?
no you can still able use the eye icon to hide and unhide objects in a collection. The eye icon hides it from the viewport but not from the render but the check box next to the collection will hide it from both the render and the viewport.
that was great, thanks for sharing! I'm very new at blender, how do you isolate reflections that are in one collection at a specific viewer, and how you make that work in your case, if the original reflexion was a flat color, and now is a grafitti texture?
You can render those out as as separate layers just with the ground layer included as a reflection pass and use the reflection pass to isolate the texture and also just blur the reflection a little. Easier to do it in after effects or photoshop or just fake it by flipping the text and blurring it, masking and warping it.
Thanks for the tutorial(s)! Is there a way to map the images in post using a rendered normals or UV direction pass so they match the orientation of the faces? Any tutorials on that process? 😁
Hello Denzyl, thanks a lot for your excellent and important tutorial. When I click on the collections to be excluded, I get ‘View Layer’>’Disable from View Layer’ and ‘Set Indirect Only’ and ‘Set Holdout’… but no 'exclude'. Has the 2.8 version been already changed? Where can I find the ‘exclude’ icon in order to set the render layers? Also, where do I find in 2.8 the 2.79 render layers icons for ‘Use Environment’, ‘Use AO’, ‘Use surfaces’ and ‘Use Hair’ ?
Thank you for your support and I look forward to learn from your other tutorials.
Set holdout is the same thing as exclude. Two tabs under the render setting in the View layer tab you will find a tab called Filter. I think that is what you are looking for in terms of ‘Use Environment’, ‘Use AO’, ‘Use surfaces’ and ‘Use Hair’, Also you have to be in Cycles EEVEE does not have those options, Hope that helps. Think they are still testing as seeing what people prefer as far as workflow and naming goes, so things might still change a little before final release. Will most likely bring out an updated tutorial for 2.8RC. I just felt people should be taking an early look so it's not a total surprise when the change does happen.
@@ArtInMotionStudios Thank you Denzyl for your kind and prompt reply. Apparently we have different versions since I don’t have any ‘Filter’ tab. I have to wait for the official release. Thank you again.
It now appears to need a Shift (eyeball) click to make objects visible/invisible. Alternately, right click context menu Visibility...Show All Inside/Hide All Inside. 2019-02-06 version
by the sound of things there will be changes before it is final but I hope they tweek things a little because it works almost the same way harder to see what is going on because it is so all over the place and before it was one panel. So lets hope to see improvements because it is better in so many ways, just annoying and confusing.
There is nothing complicated about it. It's just a common tree/folder structure. It takes minutes to get used to, it's easy for a few objects, and makes a lot of difference when managing many objects, groups, and linked blend files in a complex scene or project. I don't miss the old system and how it was cumbersome to work even with a few groups and layers in a single scene.
Fantastic! Beautifully produced and very clear. I am new to nodes and this is super helpful. Question: Is it possible to render each of the View Layers to separate channels of a single OpenEXR multilayer file? It would be the EXR equivalent of having all the separate Collections rendered as the various Layers of a single PSD file. Does that make sense? I would love to hear your answer.
Is this still a thing in Blender 2.90? I tried following the tutorial to the letter and hiding e.g.g the BLUE collection will still show all the objects because they have their visibility coning from the monkeys/cubes/balls ones.
MY BRAIN HURTS. Old blender was so fluid with how it worked, and they just wanted to add extra steps for more customizability, I see why but it was hell trying to figure out the logic behind all this. Thank you for being so direct! (I have been using blender as a hobby since 2.49, when did you start?)
As a beginner to Blender, I'm wondering if Blender can ''read'' the saved parametric mask Tiff layers of image sequences I already have created with folders and image lists, so that I can turn my background gradually into a transparency. So part of the sequence keeps the background while it gradually transforms into a different background. Since I have so many images, I was hoping to be able to use the saved layered masks (created in darktable) rather than start over from scratch using using the bezier tool.
my renderer is not talking to my compositor. i have two layers. only one layer will render. how do i get the "image" node which has the background image. on to my sencond layer/second scene? the "composite" and "viewer" nodes all look good with the proper combined image. but it won't render as seen on the composite node or node editor indow.
just tested it out and it still works just a little differently. if you have everything but one of the colours turn it on will just show that colour but if you turn in the ball group it will show all the balls and all of the selected colour together. but yeah it still works on my side with 2.91 this tutorial was made when it was still being tested so it does need an update Will have one soon!
Ive got a question for you ...is there a way to make blender draw lines that follow whatever object i assign it to? explaining. If i move a ball to the left, when i animate it to move it to the left, blender would draw a line showing you the movement that was done. Anyway i could accomplish this?
@@ArtInMotionStudios omg ..you guys are so awesome and im so thankful!!! Well if its not much to ask, is there a tut showing how to make a baloon expand with fluid (water )coming in? again big thank you and a great 2021!!!
I am using 2d animation, I just started learning about collections and want to start using them. Previously I was using layers and thought this to be normal, guess I was wrong -- part of the learning process, I want to move my layers into collections now. How do I achieve this? All my drawings/strokes are in a collection defaulty named "Strokes", I want to move each individual layer into it's own little collection. For example; I want all my hand strokes into a collection named "hand", etc etc. Another question, is what I'm trying to do how things should be done?
I haven't taken a look at opening old projects with layers in 2.8 yet but I am hoping when they bring out the official build they will have had a better way of moving from 2.7 to 2.8. If I find I better way I will let you know.
@@ArtInMotionStudios i see it when i render the image and click the correct layer. but when i go back to the layout tab to go back to editing the object, it does not show any of the effects i made like the glow.
Sadly that only works in Cycles. when you right click on a collection> view layer > Set Holdout it will do the exact same thing as masks. It does not work with EEVEE yet, but hopefully they will make it happen. So for now cycle only. Hope that helps.
@@ArtInMotionStudios I mean, I know it Cycles. I mean, there was few types of interaction between layers in 2.7, but where are they in 2.8? Holdout is okay, but not to only one of them. Damn, making this thing in menu really makes it all harder to manage or check.
What exactly are you trying to pull off? Even layer overrides still work in cycles. Most of the things I also thought were not longer possible I found a way to do. Send me an image of what kind of layer you are trying to make and I will look into it. That is the reason I split it into two outliners I Find it easier to keep track that way. I really think the renders layers and Collections need their own tab though. Personally don't like the render layers (view layers) up at the top like that.
Hello! I would like to ask if collections can apply to 2d animation eg is it possible to add strokes in layers into collections? I'm rather new to blender so sorry if it doesn't make any sense ;;
@@ArtInMotionStudios is it possbile to render layer in EEVVEE, i really struggle with this problem about render a specific layer in EEVVEE, and I really need your help T^T
@@louiedavinci6118 Exclude is now called "Disable from view layer" they even made it easier you just turn off that check mark next to the collection. yes the whole tutorial is using EEVEE , you can still turn collections on and off inside of a view layer, The holdout option is only available for only cycles. if you want to do some kind of holdout effect just do it in the compositor by subtracting one layer from another. I literally show you how to do it in the tutorial. .
Would it be possible to move your microphone away from the mouse? I just kept getting distracted from the message by the non stop clicking, and when you wear headphones it is that much worse.
Fair enough I constantly experiment with positioning for the mic, to reduced background noise and stuff. Will definitely keep that in mind for the next tutorial. Thanks for your feedback.
You right click on the group (collection) to bring up the menu and under view layer you can set the group(collection) to be excluded in that view layer.
I have a big problem i want to composite a motion tracking shot and i modeled some steps where some balls falling down, but i want to exclude the Step model from the ao or all shadows. is it possible?
@@jokybones no sorry I removed those two because they would be confusing and won't be helpful at all, because you just need to use shadow catcher in your cycles settings of the object, to do what you want to do?
Art In Motion Studios yeah ...well it’s a matter of getting used to it ...fortunately there is some cool guys like you who are doing some good videos :) who help to understand that stuff .thanks man !
The Outliner is getting better. But there are still some visual things that need to be improved and standardized. For example, sometimes an icon moves to the right to indicate it's nested. But sometimes an icon moves to the right, just because the object name is longer!
only when right clicking on a collections not just the objects. so you need to put an object into a collection then right click the collection. The only change is instead of it saying "set Exclude" it will say "Disable from view layer." you can even use the checkbox next to the Collection.
For anyone confused at 9:14 : you can no longer choose right-click > exclude .................. it's been replaced by the check-boxes to the left of the object names in the Outliner ....................
in 2.90 right clicking a collection allows you to 'Disable from view layer' or 'Enable in view layer' (inside the view layers sub menu)
I see no checbox near object, only near collecitons
How in this world there are people that dislike this tutorial. Simple, fast and right to the point. Great! Thanks!
Thank you, It is a little out dated hope so i think some people find it confusing because the interface has changed a little.
Glad i could help!
Truly the ABC of Blender Layer Rendering and Composite - thank you!
My pleasure! Glad i could help!
I really hope they add a better way to manage collections other than the outliner. The only way I really use the layers in blender 2.7x is to manage my exports, helper objects and backup objects while occasionally moving things to a render layer I've set up. I love how in 2.7x you can simply and quickly turn layers on and off directly from the ui in 2.7x and in 2.8 that looks super slow and awkward in comparison. Lots of scrolling and no clear way to quickly see which collections are visible currently for example. Dividing the outliner to two helps but takes tons of space when I already would prefer the outliner to be smaller as it is pretty useless in blender (multiselections are practically impossible for example).
I really hope they keep working on this because for me this is a huge flaw in 2.8 (along with the removal of the w key). I understand that folder like structure where collections can be under other collections makes it more difficult to create small compact ui like layers had but the total omission of the ui for the collections should be a big issue. The way it is now in 2.8 works fine for small sample scenes with handful of objects but it totally breaks down when you have hundreds of objects and tens of collections because you either need to sacrifice lots of screenspace to get an overview of the situation or work blind relying on your memory.
yeah, last I heard they are still cleaning it up but so far it does work fairly closely to how the old system worked but it really feels different. reason i split the outliner that way so it sort of feels the same kind of,
I do like being able to see that objects on in each collection and the unlimited number of collections but it does get a bit crazy.
the groups and collections being one thing is confusing
Finally!!! I've been hunting for a video that specifically shows the new relationship between the collections and render layers.
My pleasure!! Glad it was clear and helpful! I will be making more now that 2.8rc is out. Thanks for watching happy to help.
Finally, I was able to separate layers and render animation with Alpha :)) Thank you!
YOU, SIR! YOU! THANK YOU! Now I know how to exclude lights from affecting other objects xD Collections, view layers and exclusions. Seriously, thank you!
My pleasure! Always so happy to see I helped someone! Glad you found it useful!
Thank you for watching I will bring out more in the future!
@@ArtInMotionStudios I've honestly struggled with the idea of excluding light sources and objects (or linking them to only be rendered together) and, well, this video might be a bit old, but it helped a hell lot. Looking forward to more content.
This is a really informative video. There are some really cool techniques too. Thank you.
One of the best blender tutorial out there, and on a useful subject that is not very known or explained! Well done! Can't wait to see more tutorials from you!
Glad you found it useful, Thank you so much!
Whats nice about the collections for particles is that you can use count, which is a really nice feature
Wow - this is very helpful. Many thanks for the care you put into making it. With greetings from Cape Town!
I learned heaps of things in a considerably short video. Thanks a lot man.
It's a pleasure! Glad i could help
Thanks for teaching the most complicated thing in blender(at least for me).
Glad I could help! Yeah render layer are complicated.
Thanks for clarifying the view layers thing.
Thank you very much super helpful !
Fantastic this was exactly what I needed, I was looking everywhere for how to isolate render layers. Thank you so much!
Glad you found what you needed!
This was exactly the video I needed. Very thorough and helped me get a more intuitive understanding of how this all works.
"and the third one we'll call.. MON -KAYS"
🔥 sweet one!
A very good tutorial. Everything explained in an understandable way, step by step. Thanks for your hard work!
It's my pleasure! Glad you found it helpful and clear!
wow thanks, interesting content
Thank you so much! This was very helpful! 😁
Great video man! Your channel seems to be great and very underrated, keep it up!
Thank you! Glad I could help!
u are the best man
thank you very much, great overview of the new possibilities of the collections.
I've seen the video 2 months ago and was thrilled, but unfortunately I forgot where it was exactly on youtube.
luckily found again :-). thank you very much, that is very helpful
Glad you found it again and I am happy i was able to help you! Don't forget to subscribe so you find my channel again ;)
Your way to make tutorials is excellent, Thank you for this one (Very useful)
Thank you so much! Real glad you found it useful!
After effcts has a great plugin where you can map textures using the world pass. That allows you to map it in 3d, super nice!
Blender has an export for blender addon that exports the camera and nulls which will help aswell.
Fantastic Tutorial, Thanks!
great video
Thank u so much !
Yeah ! I got it ! I got it here !
Thanks After this I was able to render different objects at different Render layers. Gave you a like and a subscribe👍
This helped.
Thanks
Awesome Video! Thank you so much!!
Awesome and helpful tutorial. Thank you!
My Pleasure glad you found it useful!
Ah, man, this helped a lot! Blender wouldn't respect my View Layer Renderable overrides. I didn't think to set to Exclude.
Glad it was helpful!
I figured it out! ITS ALL ABOUT COLLECTIONS th-cam.com/video/M5qG4KCs04k/w-d-xo.html
Very nice tutorial, thank you a lot.
Thanks a lot !!!
Always a pleasure!
Very good tutorial, thanks!
It's a pleasure! Thank you!
Awesome. This was very helpful.
Glad I could help!
Thank you very much! You really helped!
Suuuuper helpful dude. Thanks. 🙏🏽
It's a pleasure, glad I can help!
Excellent brother.
Great! love this tutorial.
A reaaaally good tutorial! :) I got most I wanted to know about Blender layers as someone who's native environment is Autodesk Maya :)
Keep a great job!
Glad it was useful even though it is outdated.
Thanks for the tut I genuinely liked it & learned some things. I lol'ed around 14:58 when you reminded us this is doable in Photoshop and might be a hellava lot easier :-D Still cooler in Blender tho
haha! Glad you enjoyed it and learnt something! :D
Great content 🔝
Since this vid was made there have been some changes: after you've put an object inside it's own collection, there's now a quicker way to get it into it's own view layer: click the "add view layer" button (top right in the outliner) and choose :blank. Now you have a view layer with everything disabled. Now you can select the object you want isolated and press alt + E .......... note that even if the camera is disabled, the render will still take place from the camera's viewpoint. Not true with lighting, lights need to be enabled or won't render. And another little time saver is: to name the new layer the same as the object, just drag the object onto the view layer name slot!
Good notes thank you, this was made when it was still in development so it was intended as a jump start to those who were struggling with the transition. So it's really outdated and fairly basic.
@@ArtInMotionStudios All good, thanks for the vid anyway!
Awesome tutorial, keep going
Nice! a new technique, learnt something today! =D Shot
Glad to hear it!
Amazing, thank you!
My pleasure! Happy to help!
PURPLE!!!!!!!
*Got yourself a new sub for this.. thanks!* ; )
My pleasure glad it was helpful!!!
You can also just add items to more collections by using Shift M. Or you can drag items in Outliner while holding Shift.
Thank you that is useful!
For me that works with holding down Ctrl.
Im not even sure if that shift works, it states parenting.. EDIT Shift is when you need to parent to an object inside a collection. If you dont use shift you cant parent in the outliner. Its very handy that we can parent object in that way as well. The outliner has many shortcuts btw. Focusing on selected objects is super nice, hitting period instantly focusses the view in the list on your object. I use that all the time. Shift + A opens all items, so it unfolds them. I wish there was also a mirror hotkey for ctrl click on the visibility, now it hides all others, but there is not shortcut to show all others again.
@@RomboutVersluijs here is thread about such problems
devtalk.blender.org/t/layers-maniphest/6578
Thank you!
you are welcome! Thank you for watching!
Very helpful! Thx!
Glad I could help
The current method to organize "render layers" is again to much clicking. So many things have been changed which need way more clicking. I also miss the the UI list we had. In one glance you could see all layers and cycling over them was way more intuitive and faster. Im gonna try to build it back in for the Amaranth addon.
By the sound of the last blender today video they might still change things because it is confusing.
is this feature work in 2.83 coz when I right clicked it didn't dhow any options for view layers
it it now just a little tick box,
So I started this software just yesterday and already learned a handful of things. Problem is, I'm running into little issues. I'm very new to animations. It's my new hobby. I watched this video to get an idea about layers and I thought I had figured it out, but it turns out I still don't know how to add the layer to my collections after making a new one. (I forgot to mention I'm learning how to use the 2D animation. I don't know if that makes a difference)
collections can be added to view layers (not the other way around)
this is gold
Hello! How to use blender layers in animation? - I want: 1. Mist, that I create in render layers, was in frames. 2. Effects, that I create in render layers, was in frames.
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Mist is found in render passes not in the layers. Either way once you have set up your render layers it should work when you press Cntl F12 for animation or f12 for still exactly the same way.
join my Discord I will see if i can help, sounds like you are having a very odd issue.
Art In Motion Studios THANK YOU VERY MUCH!)
This Isolate-Funktion with CTRL should also work without collections , this would be nice.....but in general this is not a very fast way, because you have to render all layers seperately + all layers together...If you render an animation with lots of things going on this would be inpossible to render.....I am just a beginner in Blender, maybe I didn´t understand it right, but I tested it and it renders every Layer ....I think therefore it would be better to render with Object Indexes or Buffers I don´t know....
This was just an demonstration of collection and render layers. there are hundreds of ways to do things when compositing, each with their pros and cons.
Thanx for video! Is there the fast way to choose all objects in collection?
yes there is. you can Right click on the group and then click Select
Objects.
@@ArtInMotionStudios Thanx! I go further, and made it even more handy... I add a shortcut to select all the group (collection) by just double click on any object from group! now selection is really fast) I did it by adding the new keybend of the "function object.select_grouped" I choose type "collections" in it and set mouse double click button to activate it
@@user-hk1gs9em7v That's brilliant! speeding things up a lot!
17:22 Isn’t that what the Multilayer OpenEXR output format is for?
yes and no, depends on the situation and preference,
I have my collections arranged exactly as you do, but I'm unable to hide them when I click the eyeball; I have to Shift+click. Is that a 2.91 thing, do you suppose?
Not sure sounds odd. If an object is in a collection it should hide when you hide the collection.
Thanks, man, I was thinking to get into compositing, started with yours, all well explained.
I didn't understand how to save the file output node results after plugging them into the individual image sequences? and when should I do this in case of an animation image sequence? pre render or post?
That was just to separate them into individual pngs incase you wanted to being them into photoshop or after effects post render.
@@ArtInMotionStudios I was aware of multiple passes, so we can't separately output elements in animation? I understand that is less likely as interdependent properties like bounce light, reflections will cause undesired occurance .
@@neail5466 you can some things can be an issue but depends on the scene so chances are you should have not problems with animation might require some playing around and experimentation. if you do run into any issues.
Hi, I know I'm late but I need help. Will the separate view (render) layers method work if I want to exclude certain lights from affecting some objects? If I put a light osurce in a view layer, it won't affect objects in a different view layer right? Also what if the light source is animated to move in a circle, how do I composite that with other view layers, since it's multiple images?
Yes if the lights aren't added to a view layer they wont light the objects in the view layer.
Animated objects work exactly the same way as a still imaged being rendered
Quick Question. In Blender 2.82 I'm not able to hide/unhide the objects in the groups with the eye icon (It's on the left side in this Blender version). Instead, I have to right-click on the group go to visibility and click on Isolate. If I want to unhide a group I need to enter it and manually select each objects and uncheck the eye icon. Am I doing something wrong?
no you can still able use the eye icon to hide and unhide objects in a collection. The eye icon hides it from the viewport but not from the render but the check box next to the collection will hide it from both the render and the viewport.
that was great, thanks for sharing! I'm very new at blender, how do you isolate reflections that are in one collection at a specific viewer, and how you make that work in your case, if the original reflexion was a flat color, and now is a grafitti texture?
You can render those out as as separate layers just with the ground layer included as a reflection pass and use the reflection pass to isolate the texture and also just blur the reflection a little. Easier to do it in after effects or photoshop or just fake it by flipping the text and blurring it, masking and warping it.
Thanks for the tutorial(s)! Is there a way to map the images in post using a rendered normals or UV direction pass so they match the orientation of the faces? Any tutorials on that process? 😁
You can just render out a normal pass depends how you want to use it i guess.
Hello Denzyl, thanks a lot for your excellent and important tutorial.
When I click on the collections to be excluded, I get ‘View Layer’>’Disable from View Layer’ and ‘Set Indirect Only’ and ‘Set Holdout’… but no 'exclude'. Has the 2.8 version been already changed? Where can I find the ‘exclude’ icon in order to set the render layers?
Also, where do I find in 2.8 the 2.79 render layers icons for ‘Use Environment’, ‘Use AO’, ‘Use surfaces’ and ‘Use Hair’ ?
Thank you for your support and I look forward to learn from your other tutorials.
Set holdout is the same thing as exclude.
Two tabs under the render setting in the View layer tab you will find a tab called Filter. I think that is what you are looking for in terms of ‘Use Environment’, ‘Use AO’, ‘Use surfaces’ and ‘Use Hair’, Also you have to be in Cycles EEVEE does not have those options, Hope that helps.
Think they are still testing as seeing what people prefer as far as workflow and naming goes, so things might still change a little before final release.
Will most likely bring out an updated tutorial for 2.8RC. I just felt people should be taking an early look so it's not a total surprise when the change does happen.
@@ArtInMotionStudios Thank you Denzyl for your kind and prompt reply. Apparently we have different versions since I don’t have any ‘Filter’ tab. I have to wait for the official release. Thank you again.
@@polipano it should be there join my discord I will send you a screenshot to show you what I mean.
discord.gg/u2WXM7
@@polipano
Here is a link to an image of what i mean
www.dropbox.com/s/evvj19xpde7bcb4/Screenshot%202019-06-30%2020.04.22.png?dl=0
@@ArtInMotionStudios Denzyl, thanks a lot... This is exactly what I was looking for... You are great, thank you !
It now appears to need a Shift (eyeball) click to make objects visible/invisible. Alternately, right click context menu Visibility...Show All Inside/Hide All Inside. 2019-02-06 version
Yeah one day they will settle on a way of doing things. It's been an adventure I guess.
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Great tutorial but I think the new way to create (Render)Layers is way more complicated now than the old way in Blender 2.79. I miss the old system!
by the sound of things there will be changes before it is final but I hope they tweek things a little because it works almost the same way harder to see what is going on because it is so all over the place and before it was one panel.
So lets hope to see improvements because it is better in so many ways, just annoying and confusing.
There is nothing complicated about it. It's just a common tree/folder structure. It takes minutes to get used to, it's easy for a few objects, and makes a lot of difference when managing many objects, groups, and linked blend files in a complex scene or project. I don't miss the old system and how it was cumbersome to work even with a few groups and layers in a single scene.
SoulGuitarMetal Perhaps you're right. I'm more used to it now. Guess it's the same as always, you have to practise things to get used to it...
Fantastic! Beautifully produced and very clear. I am new to nodes and this is super helpful. Question: Is it possible to render each of the View Layers to separate channels of a single OpenEXR multilayer file? It would be the EXR equivalent of having all the separate Collections rendered as the various Layers of a single PSD file. Does that make sense? I would love to hear your answer.
yes you can use Open EXR I don't really use them myself, so i could be wrong but, I just prefer saving things out individually,
Is this still a thing in Blender 2.90? I tried following the tutorial to the letter and hiding e.g.g the BLUE collection will still show all the objects because they have their visibility coning from the monkeys/cubes/balls ones.
yes but the display port is different so it's a little confusing, I really need to update this tutorial .
MY BRAIN HURTS. Old blender was so fluid with how it worked, and they just wanted to add extra steps for more customizability, I see why but it was hell trying to figure out the logic behind all this. Thank you for being so direct! (I have been using blender as a hobby since 2.49, when did you start?)
It took some time to get my head around the new blender but worth while.
I started somewhere around 2.5 i think.
As a beginner to Blender, I'm wondering if Blender can ''read'' the saved parametric mask Tiff layers of image sequences I already have created with folders and image lists, so that I can turn my background gradually into a transparency. So part of the sequence keeps the background while it gradually transforms into a different background. Since I have so many images, I was hoping to be able to use the saved layered masks (created in darktable) rather than start over from scratch using using the bezier tool.
so sorry for the late response ,
Depending how you want to use the make it should have an issue at all.
my renderer is not talking to my compositor. i have two layers. only one layer will render. how do i get the "image" node which has the background image. on to my sencond layer/second scene? the "composite" and "viewer" nodes all look good with the proper combined image. but it won't render as seen on the composite node or node editor indow.
That is very odd. Join my discord and post some screenshot and i will see if i can help.
@@ArtInMotionStudios thanks brother! will do!
i cant do it in blender 2.8 now what wrong? when i holding down shift and drag
Depends what you are talking about, What is it that you can't do ?
In 2.91 if for example a green sphere is placed in the two different collection like color and shape according to the above method they dont work.
just tested it out and it still works just a little differently. if you have everything but one of the colours turn it on will just show that colour but if you turn in the ball group it will show all the balls and all of the selected colour together.
but yeah it still works on my side with 2.91
this tutorial was made when it was still being tested so it does need an update Will have one soon!
What was that track in the closer? I don't need art list, but I'm sure I could find that artist somewhere else.
The song is Reinvest by Mogli the Iceburg, oh yeah most likely.
Ive got a question for you ...is there a way to make blender draw lines
that follow whatever object i assign it to? explaining. If i move a ball
to the left, when i animate it to move it to the left, blender would
draw a line showing you the movement that was done. Anyway i could
accomplish this?
This might be what you are looking for th-cam.com/video/5j-RuoHSoFo/w-d-xo.html
Or this th-cam.com/video/Y9KQGGpO_Js/w-d-xo.html
Both these videos show you how make and object follow q curve as well as how to animate a curve.
@@ArtInMotionStudios omg ..you guys are so awesome and im so thankful!!! Well if its not much to ask, is there a tut showing how to make a baloon expand with fluid (water )coming in? again big thank you and a great 2021!!!
@@wgalloPT Thank you. sorry sadly not one that i know of, but might be one out there somewhere. have a good 2021 too!
how to set exclude in blender 2.82
sorry the video is a little old, but you have to be in Cycles, Exclude is now called Holdout.
I am using 2d animation, I just started learning about collections and want to start using them. Previously I was using layers and thought this to be normal, guess I was wrong -- part of the learning process, I want to move my layers into collections now. How do I achieve this? All my drawings/strokes are in a collection defaulty named "Strokes", I want to move each individual layer into it's own little collection. For example; I want all my hand strokes into a collection named "hand", etc etc.
Another question, is what I'm trying to do how things should be done?
I haven't taken a look at opening old projects with layers in 2.8 yet but I am hoping when they bring out the official build they will have had a better way of moving from 2.7 to 2.8.
If I find I better way I will let you know.
hi! Question... once I finished compositing my object, why can't i view my changes on the layout tab?
What render layer do you have selected it might be hidden on that layer.
@@ArtInMotionStudios i see it when i render the image and click the correct layer. but when i go back to the layout tab to go back to editing the object, it does not show any of the effects i made like the glow.
@@jasleensaini5102 oh that is because the effects inb the compositor are only applied to the render,
@@ArtInMotionStudios ohhh got it!! thank you
Очень круто, спасибо :)
But how to make layer to mask or include other layers as before?
Sadly that only works in Cycles.
when you right click on a collection> view layer > Set Holdout it will do the exact same thing as masks.
It does not work with EEVEE yet, but hopefully they will make it happen.
So for now cycle only. Hope that helps.
@@ArtInMotionStudios I mean, I know it Cycles. I mean, there was few types of interaction between layers in 2.7, but where are they in 2.8? Holdout is okay, but not to only one of them.
Damn, making this thing in menu really makes it all harder to manage or check.
What exactly are you trying to pull off? Even layer overrides still work in cycles.
Most of the things I also thought were not longer possible I found a way to do. Send me an image of what kind of layer you are trying to make and I will look into it.
That is the reason I split it into two outliners I Find it easier to keep track that way.
I really think the renders layers and Collections need their own tab though. Personally don't like the render layers (view layers) up at the top like that.
@@ArtInMotionStudios I think so too.
Well, thank for offer, but I can't do it anytime soon, so I think I'll manage.
This is kinda slows down the pace from 2.7x where you press M to move objects to a given layer but oh well got to abject to change i guess
You still just press M.
What happened to the Render Layer masking feature? bcoz nw we are forced to render all layers even if they are behind another object.
@@KasiToursSA it is now called Set Holdout. light click on the collection you want you want to set at a mask and View Layer>set holdout
@@ArtInMotionStudios Thanks for reply, I already found it, my mistake was disabling the mask collection.
@@KasiToursSA awesome! Glad ya got it sorted
Hello!
I would like to ask if collections can apply to 2d animation eg is it possible to add strokes in layers into collections? I'm rather new to blender so sorry if it doesn't make any sense ;;
What do you mean by strokes? As in Freestyle Stokes?
@@ArtInMotionStudios yes, freestyle strokes
I need help, in the view layer I dont have exclude layer
It is now called "Set Holdout" Also only available when you are using cycles
@@ArtInMotionStudios is it possbile to render layer in EEVVEE, i really struggle with this problem about render a specific layer in EEVVEE, and I really need your help T^T
@@louiedavinci6118
Exclude is now called "Disable from view layer" they even made it easier you just turn off that check mark next to the collection.
yes the whole tutorial is using EEVEE ,
you can still turn collections on and off inside of a view layer,
The holdout option is only available for only cycles.
if you want to do some kind of holdout effect just do it in the compositor by subtracting one layer from another. I literally show you how to do it in the tutorial. .
@@ArtInMotionStudios wow thanks alot mann
Would it be possible to move your microphone away from the mouse? I just kept getting distracted from the message by the non stop clicking, and when you wear headphones it is that much worse.
Fair enough I constantly experiment with positioning for the mic, to reduced background noise and stuff. Will definitely keep that in mind for the next tutorial. Thanks for your feedback.
@@ArtInMotionStudios Sure thing I liked the content, but just had a hard time with the noise. Thanks for your content though!
@@joelevi8531 always a pleasure!!
What about the Mask Layer & Exclude Layers from Blender 2.79? How do we get them in 2.8 version?
You right click on the group (collection) to bring up the menu and under view layer you can set the group(collection) to be excluded in that view layer.
@@ArtInMotionStudios what about the masking?
@@ArtInMotionStudios what about the masking?
@@jkartz92 if I remember correctly it's only in cycles.
@@ArtInMotionStudios yeah for Cycles, but how to use now?
thank you, great tutorial! how can i turn on alpha on render output of layers?
in your scene setting go down to film and change the alpha to transparent.
@@ArtInMotionStudios great, thanks!
Are collections layers
Kind of like the old visibility layers but also groups. Took some playing around to get my hear around the idea coming from the old blender.
Thanks a good job, sorry, but the music is a bit annoying.
Music is always something personal, especially when it comes to learning.
fair enough hope you found it useful at least.
@@ArtInMotionStudios 🌺
I have a big problem i want to composite a motion tracking shot and i modeled some steps where some balls falling down, but i want to exclude the Step model from the ao or all shadows. is it possible?
Yes but only if you use cycles as far as I know.
docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/render/cycles/settings/objects/object_data.html
@@ArtInMotionStudios i use cycles,
TH-cam seems to have issues i cant See your comments anymore
@@jokybones no sorry I removed those two because they would be confusing and won't be helpful at all, because you just need to use shadow catcher in your cycles settings of the object, to do what you want to do?
@@ArtInMotionStudios yes i tried that at first But it wont take emission reflection 😅
Coming from c4d , the outliner improved in blender , but overall it's still so bad and confusing to me .
yeah i find jumping from any 3D software to another i find it confusing and blender tends to be hard for most people.
Art In Motion Studios yeah ...well it’s a matter of getting used to it ...fortunately there is some cool guys like you who are doing some good videos :) who help to understand that stuff .thanks man !
@@paulatreides6711 its a pleasure glad I can help! I know how frustrating it can be to learn something new and I am happy to help make it easier.
The Outliner is getting better. But there are still some visual things that need to be improved and standardized. For example, sometimes an icon moves to the right to indicate it's nested. But sometimes an icon moves to the right, just because the object name is longer!
9:10 I don't see View layers while right-clicking. help?
only when right clicking on a collections not just the objects. so you need to put an object into a collection then right click the collection.
The only change is instead of it saying "set Exclude" it will say "Disable from view layer." you can even use the checkbox next to the Collection.
@@ArtInMotionStudios Hey man, thanks a lot for the quick reply!!!
@@Manuellaborer my pleasure glad to help.
How are parts separated?
Objects are separate parts inside of a group.
They are orange I think, not red.
Fair enough.