This is precisely the type of content we follow you on TH-cam for David. On the one hand theres the humor and amusement, on the other hand theres genuinely beautiful music and a serious topic of discussion with an almost scientific approach.
Adam mentioned Shave and a Haircut and I realized it may just be the most powerful musical meme alive, with Dies Irae lurking close behind. At least The Lick is just kind of a musical in-joke. It doesn't carry the connotation of humor or death like Shave and a Haircut or Dies Irae.
@@GuyNamedSean I think the main difference here is the level in which those musical elements operate. "Shave and a Haircut" appears in contexts where the humour is transparent to the audience; it's closely associated with comedy because it's used in comedic contexts, and it's supposed to be funny to the whole audience. Dies Irae is a little more subtle, because I'm not sure how many members of the general public associate that melody with death, but when Berlioz used it for Symphonie Fantastique, its meaning was supposed to be transparent. You weren't "special" for associating it with death; it was right there in the programme. And that's the reason why that melody is associated with death even in pop culture. The lick, though, is an IN JOKE. It's not transparent to the audience, and it's not a joke that's supposed to include the audience in general; in fact, it SEGREGATES the "laymen" from the "people who know it". It's purely exclusionary. The lick isn't funny on its own merits; instead, you laugh at it because you feel smart for getting the reference. Laughing at the lick is a badge of honour, a certificate of erudition, and that's why the lick has become obnoxious whereas Shave and a Haircut hasn't.
So there's a book called "The Memetics of Music: A Neo-Darwinian View of Musical Structure and Culture" by Steven B. Jan that looks at how memes (in the original sense of the word, as ideas that are good at replicating themselves) operate in music. I haven't read it yet, but it would be interesting to see how an analysis of this string quartet would go using the ideas in the book. Is David Bruce a mere vector for this viral melody, and has he just infected thousands of musicians and listeners by writing this piece?
Dude this makes me so happy. I've been playing around with the licc for brass quintet but I've had little luck making anything good. I'm so glad that someone could make the licc good.
Actually quite enjoyed this composition. The section at 7:10 with the first and second halves of the lick interrupting each other gave me a good giggle
i definitely hear the meme, in the first snippet you played of the finale i bursted out laughing. this video is a good example of how i like to think of art as a whole, just a big cloud of different languages that can tell a lot more than words alone. theres some overlap of course, with the literary arts, but even there the art is what you get between the lines you know? not just the literal sense of the words. when a piece of art doesn't hit you, i identify that as not knowing the language. because theres a lot of art where you do know the language, you just dont like what's being said. like that super annoying pop song that you cant get out of your head
G R E A T !!! *:D* I feel like I´m starting to become a David Bruce fan - - - - looking forward to the whole piece ! Thanks for filming - and of course for WRITING such delightful music !
I've binged watch quite a number of David Bruce's videos these past few days and it is so interesting to hear a composer about music and talk about their work in such wonderful detail. I'm so pleased I stumbled upon this glorious channel. Thank you, David Bruce.
Welp, now I need to know which Violin Concerto "it's nearly over" matches up to. Doesn't match Brahms', Sibelius' nor Tchaikovsky's. Is it Beethoven's? ... Yup, it's Beethoven's I just sang it and damn, it really does match. Uncanny.
@@yveltalsea listen to the final movement of Beethoven's violin concerto. The main theme is a dance tune, with a five note long motif. Try singing "it's nearly over" over it, and you'll see it fits with the phrase.
The Lick got me more interested in the art of musical composition. I was learning to sing harmony and play piano when I was 6, but I always saw composition as something that Serious Musicians do. Seeing it as a meme was a way for me to think "hey wait, sometimes all it takes is a fun idea!"
THE IMAGE OF THE GUY WEARING THE LICC SHIRT ISN'T A MUSICIAN HE IS A DANCER AND HIS NAME IS JACK STRATTON SMITH! WE WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL TOGETHER IN A SMALL TOWN IN NEW ZEALAND
Lovely; to be honest I had not detected the lick in Adam's piece it just worked very well and was captivated with the lyrics and atmosphere he had created. I honestly think it is a lot less of an issue to my ears. Though I agree, that others may experience a very drastically different listening experience. Excellent as always!
Mad respect to the Dover Quartet!!! That piece must have been such a headache to play with all of those weird time signatures and yet they pulled it off flawlessly. Also, that was such an unexpectedly creative quartet - it didn't sound forced in any way and was incredibly pleasant and interesting to listen to. Bravo! Can't wait to hear the whole thing.
3:15 I'm old and grey. I've been gigging since school. I did a BA degree in classical music and I've been playing jazz all my life. I only discovered 'The Lick' on David's channel! Have I been gigging under a rock?
That polyrhythmic section you talk about between 11 and 12 minutes is one of the prettiest things I've heard all year. Don't know exactly what it is but I found it incredibly striking. & as always, great video fellow David:)
Talk about the ultimate earworm, right? On 6 Aug 2020 I learned something I will never unlearn, ugh. I had heard about The Lick but never looked into it. But, now? I can't put the Jeannie back in the lamp. Anthropologically speaking, this is quite a phenomenon. Great video...
Thank you for not explaining your "it's nearly over" reference. I still can't get similar things out of my mind 20 years after music school like "this is the Symphony that Schubert never finished" or the terrible 3 vs 2 and 4 vs 3 "Go F a duck" and "pass the goddamn butter" Great video.
All joking aside, this is one of my favorite pieces of yours. It's such a great mixture of complex and accessible, which I feel can be hard to come by in modern classical music
I would love to hear the entire piece. When you presented just a small piece earlier, where the lick was so obvious, I thought you had gone too far just basically extending the lick in various ways to fill up a string quartet piece. But from this video I gather that there's so much more happening. I hope that not too many people disregard the piece for being a meme comment instead of being a serious piece of music. Hearing advanced rhythmic content in a melody-based, folksy-classical piece like this really sounds like something up my alley - there are lots of great music with rhythm games but too often they end up being more about the rhythms than anything else. Nothing wrong with that, but it tends to make them a bit one dimensional.
I was improvising on the violin to warm up then then a wild lick suddenly appeared as my left fingers, for the first time in my life played the licc. I proceeded to create an emotionally shattering improvisation which conveyed my utmost respect for the sonic progression of these 7 intervals. It was pretty fun tho.
9:38 That whole Lydian section really sounded like it was in D, where you're hanging around the G to F#, like IV to iii (or inversion of I). Not sure if that's the case or just conditioning on my part but regardless, I found it very evocative, you're interval choices and how you separated them between the two chords was right up my alley with how I like to hear strings in that kind of staccato feel, or at least as far as the stabs (strings can have stabs right? hah) Sorry I'm not great with my terms. While I'm not on Patreon I'd gladly pay for that track if you have it recorded. As for "The Lick" itself, I've my own story on it. I first came across it through that original video shared on Facebook many years ago, back in around.. 2011 at earliest, 2013 at latest. At that time I was listening to a "jazz" musician who's name I won't mention, a pianist. Hell I was getting into a bit of modern jazz that came out that time in general. But I began liking this _particular_ piano player's music and style up until a point where I noticed something - he had this exact lick, in almost every solo he ever did. In fact, he even had it as part of the melodies of songs. And he had other licks too in almost every single "improvised" solo he ever did, I'm not even joking here, once I found this out, you can imagine how I felt about him now. Lastly on this guy, he had actually used the lick so much throughout his career (and still does), that he even managed, and I kid you not David, to narrow down the lick into its most basic form, that is, in just expressing it as the last 3 notes of the phrase! And to top things off, in 2013 Snarky Puppy used it as the main melody for a collaboration with Chantae Cann called Da Da 'n Da, be fooled not, this is absolutely the lick in a simplified form, and I actually really like this song, don't seem to care about the lick's usage here at all, because it just works. - th-cam.com/video/vRdeFaLubdw/w-d-xo.html So fast forward to subscribing to Adam Neely's content in 2015 or so, man.. all due respect but I already got tired and frustrated with the lick at this point, it was already a meme before a meme for me and couldn't see humor in it since learning how that aforementioned pianist abused it, along with the history of it throughout jazz music too I guess. But when I listen to your piece here, or parts of it since I don't know where to hear it in full as of now, the uneducated part of me can't identify not only the Lydian version of it, (ok I can but I love that section so far anyway), but the rest of it before like where you split the phrase in two, nuh uh can't notice that at all. So I wonder, regarding the In & Out groups, if I was more educated to where I'd be able to notice the themes throughout, the question is would it affect my ability to listen and like the music that's ultimately played for listening pleasure? It might who knows, it's interesting to consider here that ignorance might be bliss, and I'm not saying that as an excuse to not improve ones listening or playing abilities, just that here it might be a coincidence.
>be me >sitting in the concert hall where David Bruce's new piece is performed >exciting.jpg >such counterpoint >suddenly these chaps in waistcoats wearing flat caps go wild out of nowhere >mfw concert etiquette is dying
The licc does not "trivialize music". It adds a dimension to it. As Adam said, it's a cultural identifier. A little secret code for members of this little music theory TH-cam community to be able to identify with one another. Granted, there is a tasteless way to play it (like whenever anyone walks into a classroom for instance - I've done that), but when incorporated into a seemingly disparate piece, it adds something to it that you can only get by adding the licc specifically
Regarding polyrhythmic cycles not needing to complete. I noticed that a couple of years ago in Jacob Collier's Flintstones. Also, as is that case, they don't need to start together. Both are quite obvious in retrospect but I'd never considered either before hearing that. (To be truthful, before seeing June Lee's transcription)
Amazing, a masterclass in taking the ridiculous and making it sublime. Camden Shaw not being particularly subtle about his Group Meme membership, though... 😂
I started writing something more Romantic-era-style based on The Lick, but had dismissed it in my mind as a silly concept. Maybe I should try having another go at it. :)
Your experience using the Lick in a string quartet really gels with my motivic composition moments. I mean, when I compose using a motif(which is quite rare for me, but most common in dances, especially those like the Polonaise that tend to rely on certain rhythmic patterns as the basis of the entire piece, and Marches like the one I composed for orchestra last summer), I don't think "okay, I'm going to use this motif in every way I possibly can." I mean, I guess I do in my subconscious, but you know what I mean, I don't actively think "How else can I use this motif?" it's just like boom, there's the rhythmic retrograde, boom there's the inversion, boom a harmonic change, etc. And I'm sure Beethoven was thinking very similarly to this when using that Ba Ba Ba Bum motif, that Fate Motif to unify every single movement of his Fifth Symphony.
Although I'm not yet inspired to add a Lick in any of my own music (but who knows, right?) I'm very much looking to hearing the full quartet here on YT. I don't suppose you could provide a score for us all to sing along to? Always love your videos, David. So good to have a member of the contemporary music scene being so open. Thank you.
Funny part is adam mentioning the shave an a haircut. Well I performed bachs cello prelude in g for cello on guitar. But I ended the with piece shave and a haircut.
The licc with other intervals is not the licc for me, because what is so special about the licc is that so many musicians used these exact intervals independently.
The idea at 10:17 that a polyrhythm part restarts its cycle within a bigger cycle is similar to the "hard sync" option of synth oscillators. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscillator_sync#Hard_Sync
Humor is as subjective as music, although the latter requires more effort and provides greater fulfillment. Laughing after hearing the lick is as similar as writing the lick and using it in a musical context. that's why using the meme fits with using the theme.
This is precisely the type of content we follow you on TH-cam for David. On the one hand theres the humor and amusement, on the other hand theres genuinely beautiful music and a serious topic of discussion with an almost scientific approach.
Agree. This was awesome. Thank you.
@Braindead : That is perhaps the best description of this channel.
Not me, I’m purely subbed for those sexy eyebrows of his.
I just discovered this channel and I am so happy I found it! Good luck!!!
Dies irae sits in the corner laughing maniacally
Adam mentioned Shave and a Haircut and I realized it may just be the most powerful musical meme alive, with Dies Irae lurking close behind. At least The Lick is just kind of a musical in-joke. It doesn't carry the connotation of humor or death like Shave and a Haircut or Dies Irae.
@@GuyNamedSean I think the main difference here is the level in which those musical elements operate. "Shave and a Haircut" appears in contexts where the humour is transparent to the audience; it's closely associated with comedy because it's used in comedic contexts, and it's supposed to be funny to the whole audience. Dies Irae is a little more subtle, because I'm not sure how many members of the general public associate that melody with death, but when Berlioz used it for Symphonie Fantastique, its meaning was supposed to be transparent. You weren't "special" for associating it with death; it was right there in the programme. And that's the reason why that melody is associated with death even in pop culture.
The lick, though, is an IN JOKE. It's not transparent to the audience, and it's not a joke that's supposed to include the audience in general; in fact, it SEGREGATES the "laymen" from the "people who know it". It's purely exclusionary. The lick isn't funny on its own merits; instead, you laugh at it because you feel smart for getting the reference. Laughing at the lick is a badge of honour, a certificate of erudition, and that's why the lick has become obnoxious whereas Shave and a Haircut hasn't.
Love how the cello guy can't help but smile playing the lick, that's this video's point right there on that man's face :D
Makes the best video in the world
David bruce:
*there is another*
So there's a book called "The Memetics of Music: A Neo-Darwinian View of Musical Structure and Culture" by Steven B. Jan that looks at how memes (in the original sense of the word, as ideas that are good at replicating themselves) operate in music. I haven't read it yet, but it would be interesting to see how an analysis of this string quartet would go using the ideas in the book. Is David Bruce a mere vector for this viral melody, and has he just infected thousands of musicians and listeners by writing this piece?
sounds like one for the christmas reading list!
I can't read the word "memetics" anymore without immediately thinking of SCP
@@AhrkFinTey Same bro, same
Dude this makes me so happy. I've been playing around with the licc for brass quintet but I've had little luck making anything good. I'm so glad that someone could make the licc good.
I love this SO MUCH??? Can't wait to see the full video of the performance
what a performance from the quartet!
Actually quite enjoyed this composition. The section at 7:10 with the first and second halves of the lick interrupting each other gave me a good giggle
Can we just appreciate for a moment how amazing of a composer David is?
i definitely hear the meme, in the first snippet you played of the finale i bursted out laughing. this video is a good example of how i like to think of art as a whole, just a big cloud of different languages that can tell a lot more than words alone. theres some overlap of course, with the literary arts, but even there the art is what you get between the lines you know? not just the literal sense of the words. when a piece of art doesn't hit you, i identify that as not knowing the language. because theres a lot of art where you do know the language, you just dont like what's being said. like that super annoying pop song that you cant get out of your head
G R E A T !!! *:D* I feel like I´m starting to become a David Bruce fan - - - - looking forward to the
whole piece ! Thanks for filming - and of course for WRITING such delightful music !
I've binged watch quite a number of David Bruce's videos these past few days and it is so interesting to hear a composer about music and talk about their work in such wonderful detail. I'm so pleased I stumbled upon this glorious channel. Thank you, David Bruce.
Welp, now I need to know which Violin Concerto "it's nearly over" matches up to. Doesn't match Brahms', Sibelius' nor Tchaikovsky's. Is it Beethoven's?
...
Yup, it's Beethoven's I just sang it and damn, it really does match. Uncanny.
it's neear-ly o-ver it's neear-ly o-ver
can someone explain this to me? pls :-)
@@yveltalsea listen to the final movement of Beethoven's violin concerto. The main theme is a dance tune, with a five note long motif. Try singing "it's nearly over" over it, and you'll see it fits with the phrase.
@@FiveSharps Yup. "Over! It's nearly over! It's nearly... Oh! Ver!"
The Lick got me more interested in the art of musical composition. I was learning to sing harmony and play piano when I was 6, but I always saw composition as something that Serious Musicians do. Seeing it as a meme was a way for me to think "hey wait, sometimes all it takes is a fun idea!"
THE IMAGE OF THE GUY WEARING THE LICC SHIRT ISN'T A MUSICIAN HE IS A DANCER AND HIS NAME IS JACK STRATTON SMITH! WE WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL TOGETHER IN A SMALL TOWN IN NEW ZEALAND
wow what a small world we live in
A great example of the Licc id in John O’Reilly’s Concertino for Oboe. It’s incredibly exposed, and definitely deliberate in its placement
Looking forward to hearing the complete performance once you post it
Would this have happened if meme didn’t rhyme with theme?
Lovely; to be honest I had not detected the lick in Adam's piece it just worked very well and was captivated with the lyrics and atmosphere he had created. I honestly think it is a lot less of an issue to my ears. Though I agree, that others may experience a very drastically different listening experience.
Excellent as always!
Mad respect to the Dover Quartet!!! That piece must have been such a headache to play with all of those weird time signatures and yet they pulled it off flawlessly. Also, that was such an unexpectedly creative quartet - it didn't sound forced in any way and was incredibly pleasant and interesting to listen to. Bravo! Can't wait to hear the whole thing.
Those 9/4 and 7/4-ish sections are amazing.
i'm hypnotised by that cello player's head and eyebrow movements
3:15 I'm old and grey. I've been gigging since school. I did a BA degree in classical music and I've been playing jazz all my life. I only discovered 'The Lick' on David's channel! Have I been gigging under a rock?
Merely be thankful, you are now considered a musician.
Great video. I was enchanted by the many facets to the music and its analysis. I look forward to you posting the entire performance of the piece.
FUN pronounciation of J.S.Bach - sounds almost as "Ja(i)zz Bach" and I love it.
Absolutely fascinating! I can't wait to hear the entire piece
I love your honesty and curious mind David, Also quartet are awesome btw. Love your work
*T H I C C L I Q U E, W O W*
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M U C H P O L Y R H Y T H M
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i love the spare eyebrow at the bottom of the video of the chat with Adam
I love how much fun the cellist is having
Was so happy to see the Dover Quartet here! Great video!
This was super interesting and a joy to listen to, especially with your description of some of the sections. Awesome!
just a wonderful thing, to have a composer go in on their own piece with insight and humour. looking forward to hearing the whole piece!
This is the most inspiring video i have seen this year, that rythm, that interpretation, that explanation. Thanks.
That polyrhythmic section you talk about between 11 and 12 minutes is one of the prettiest things I've heard all year. Don't know exactly what it is but I found it incredibly striking. & as always, great video fellow David:)
Talk about the ultimate earworm, right? On 6 Aug 2020 I learned something I will never unlearn, ugh. I had heard about The Lick but never looked into it. But, now? I can't put the Jeannie back in the lamp. Anthropologically speaking, this is quite a phenomenon. Great video...
Looking forward to the full performance!
he slicc
he thicc
But most importantly
*-he make advanced licc-*
it’s an older meme sir, but it check out.
y u cross it out you coward
@KaaiPlaysPiano we get it, you have a neckbeard
Sunrise of the Planetary Dream Collicctor, by Terry Wrylicc, came to mind at times.
Thank you for not explaining your "it's nearly over" reference. I still can't get similar things out of my mind 20 years after music school like "this is the Symphony that Schubert never finished" or the terrible 3 vs 2 and 4 vs 3 "Go F a duck" and "pass the goddamn butter"
Great video.
Some day someone will unironically use the Wilhelm scream well
that bus joke killed me for some reason.
Should’ve titled it meme theme dream team
10:01 That sounds something like I would hear when making my character in The Sims
Honestly, I really can’t wait for the video! It sounds amazing
I really need the sheet music for this. I want to play along w it so bad!
You could become his patreon: there's a level where you get all the perusal scores.
I loved the DSCH theme-meme at the end...
I was literally thinking "oh it starts sounding like Shosty" then its straight up DSCH
This is the coolest approach to classical music that I've found to date.
Haha good one, I guess one can find inspiration just about anywhere... yes David post the whole thing for us please!
Looking forward to the full vid !
This video -ascended- your already high standard. Thank you deeply for this.
"Whining cat moment" - Legit turned round to see if my cat had turned up to annoy me.
Perfect for an internet-based piece.
@@ejb7969 yeah if it was written in 2007
Thanks for doing what you do, David.
Looking forward to the whole recording :)
7:43 that guy on the left: "What am I playing? Am I seeing things?"
I was captivated by Collier’s rhythm in that song as well - I was wondering if it was that “drunk” drumming.
I like how it goes down a bit at the very end. It sounds like it's apologizing for a bad pun.
Yesterday I was thinking about how a song made entirely with the licc sounds like? This is beyond my imagination. Lydian licc is my favorite. :D
The "whining cat moment" sounds like the seagulls in the opening sequence of Chrono Trigger on SNES.
What a wonderful world we live in that a very chump amateur musician like me can be exposed to content like this. Thank you David Bruce!
All joking aside, this is one of my favorite pieces of yours. It's such a great mixture of complex and accessible, which I feel can be hard to come by in modern classical music
I would love to hear the entire piece. When you presented just a small piece earlier, where the lick was so obvious, I thought you had gone too far just basically extending the lick in various ways to fill up a string quartet piece. But from this video I gather that there's so much more happening. I hope that not too many people disregard the piece for being a meme comment instead of being a serious piece of music.
Hearing advanced rhythmic content in a melody-based, folksy-classical piece like this really sounds like something up my alley - there are lots of great music with rhythm games but too often they end up being more about the rhythms than anything else. Nothing wrong with that, but it tends to make them a bit one dimensional.
Regarding B5 example in the intro, not to quote PDQ, but “would you call that idea a theme or a motif?”
Amazing visuals. Great video.
I was improvising on the violin to warm up then then a wild lick suddenly appeared as my left fingers, for the first time in my life played the licc. I proceeded to create an emotionally shattering improvisation which conveyed my utmost respect for the sonic progression of these 7 intervals. It was pretty fun tho.
9:38 That whole Lydian section really sounded like it was in D, where you're hanging around the G to F#, like IV to iii (or inversion of I). Not sure if that's the case or just conditioning on my part but regardless, I found it very evocative, you're interval choices and how you separated them between the two chords was right up my alley with how I like to hear strings in that kind of staccato feel, or at least as far as the stabs (strings can have stabs right? hah) Sorry I'm not great with my terms. While I'm not on Patreon I'd gladly pay for that track if you have it recorded.
As for "The Lick" itself, I've my own story on it. I first came across it through that original video shared on Facebook many years ago, back in around.. 2011 at earliest, 2013 at latest. At that time I was listening to a "jazz" musician who's name I won't mention, a pianist. Hell I was getting into a bit of modern jazz that came out that time in general. But I began liking this _particular_ piano player's music and style up until a point where I noticed something - he had this exact lick, in almost every solo he ever did. In fact, he even had it as part of the melodies of songs. And he had other licks too in almost every single "improvised" solo he ever did, I'm not even joking here, once I found this out, you can imagine how I felt about him now. Lastly on this guy, he had actually used the lick so much throughout his career (and still does), that he even managed, and I kid you not David, to narrow down the lick into its most basic form, that is, in just expressing it as the last 3 notes of the phrase!
And to top things off, in 2013 Snarky Puppy used it as the main melody for a collaboration with Chantae Cann called Da Da 'n Da, be fooled not, this is absolutely the lick in a simplified form, and I actually really like this song, don't seem to care about the lick's usage here at all, because it just works. - th-cam.com/video/vRdeFaLubdw/w-d-xo.html
So fast forward to subscribing to Adam Neely's content in 2015 or so, man.. all due respect but I already got tired and frustrated with the lick at this point, it was already a meme before a meme for me and couldn't see humor in it since learning how that aforementioned pianist abused it, along with the history of it throughout jazz music too I guess. But when I listen to your piece here, or parts of it since I don't know where to hear it in full as of now, the uneducated part of me can't identify not only the Lydian version of it, (ok I can but I love that section so far anyway), but the rest of it before like where you split the phrase in two, nuh uh can't notice that at all. So I wonder, regarding the In & Out groups, if I was more educated to where I'd be able to notice the themes throughout, the question is would it affect my ability to listen and like the music that's ultimately played for listening pleasure? It might who knows, it's interesting to consider here that ignorance might be bliss, and I'm not saying that as an excuse to not improve ones listening or playing abilities, just that here it might be a coincidence.
Even the great John Williams is not immune to the Licc problem! Listen to the main melody of "The Adventures of Han" from Solo: A Star Wars Story.
>be me
>sitting in the concert hall where David Bruce's new piece is performed
>exciting.jpg
>such counterpoint
>suddenly these chaps in waistcoats wearing flat caps go wild out of nowhere
>mfw concert etiquette is dying
The licc does not "trivialize music". It adds a dimension to it. As Adam said, it's a cultural identifier. A little secret code for members of this little music theory TH-cam community to be able to identify with one another.
Granted, there is a tasteless way to play it (like whenever anyone walks into a classroom for instance - I've done that), but when incorporated into a seemingly disparate piece, it adds something to it that you can only get by adding the licc specifically
Whenever I hear the lick my brain goes "lol , nice."
Regarding polyrhythmic cycles not needing to complete. I noticed that a couple of years ago in Jacob Collier's Flintstones. Also, as is that case, they don't need to start together. Both are quite obvious in retrospect but I'd never considered either before hearing that. (To be truthful, before seeing June Lee's transcription)
Amazing, a masterclass in taking the ridiculous and making it sublime.
Camden Shaw not being particularly subtle about his Group Meme membership, though... 😂
1:31
Me: A__DA_UM NEE-LY!!!
Awesome Vid! Thank you!
The opening motive of Chopin op. 9 no. 1 is rather close but sublime.
18:25 Shostakovich lick??
I started writing something more Romantic-era-style based on The Lick, but had dismissed it in my mind as a silly concept. Maybe I should try having another go at it. :)
Your experience using the Lick in a string quartet really gels with my motivic composition moments. I mean, when I compose using a motif(which is quite rare for me, but most common in dances, especially those like the Polonaise that tend to rely on certain rhythmic patterns as the basis of the entire piece, and Marches like the one I composed for orchestra last summer), I don't think "okay, I'm going to use this motif in every way I possibly can." I mean, I guess I do in my subconscious, but you know what I mean, I don't actively think "How else can I use this motif?" it's just like boom, there's the rhythmic retrograde, boom there's the inversion, boom a harmonic change, etc. And I'm sure Beethoven was thinking very similarly to this when using that Ba Ba Ba Bum motif, that Fate Motif to unify every single movement of his Fifth Symphony.
Although I'm not yet inspired to add a Lick in any of my own music (but who knows, right?) I'm very much looking to hearing the full quartet here on YT. I don't suppose you could provide a score for us all to sing along to? Always love your videos, David. So good to have a member of the contemporary music scene being so open. Thank you.
Whenever I hear the Licc in some unobvious context, I'm too busy congratulating myself for spotting it
Pretty upset I didn't know about the Dallas premier considering I LIVE IN DALLAS.
It was listed under “more”.
I want a shirt with the lick in piano roll notation like at the end of this video!
that's happening!
in fact, it's happened! teespring.com/the-lick-sequencer-style?tsmac=store&tsmic=david-bruce-composer&pid=389&cid=100029
Thanks DB! I show your content to my students all the time, so thank you for the fantastic videos!
It is my birthday on the release of this Video. I thank you.for such s great video. I loved the piece you wrote. The professor tho. Idk about him.
I think schulhoff’s string quartet no. 1 had a lot of these jazz elements and it was composed in 1924
I heard a lot of the final movement of Bartok's 4th quartet in that final section!
Funny part is adam mentioning the shave an a haircut. Well I performed bachs cello prelude in g for cello on guitar. But I ended the with piece shave and a haircut.
6:33 - Very nice. Reminds me a bit of the bonkers scherzo of Beethoven's string quartet op. 135.
Thanks for teaching me (us) how to speak theme ! Already very useful. So, yeah :)
Once a meme, ALWAYS A MEME
The licc with other intervals is not the licc for me, because what is so special about the licc is that so many musicians used these exact intervals independently.
Yeah, not at all liccy.
ART is it's perception.
That can get you made a Duke or get you your head removed.
Or worst of all (somehow)... ignored.
Good video from a fellow cool, young, internet savvy musician. Thanks, mate.
Enjoyed this very much!
The idea at 10:17 that a polyrhythm part restarts its cycle within a bigger cycle is similar to the "hard sync" option of synth oscillators.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscillator_sync#Hard_Sync
Humor is as subjective as music, although the latter requires more effort and provides greater fulfillment. Laughing after hearing the lick is as similar as writing the lick and using it in a musical context. that's why using the meme fits with using the theme.
Supposedly, JJay Berthume incorporates The Licc into every one of his compositions...
O_o
@@JJBerthume I love seeing the composing youtubers hang out here :)
the whining cat part actually sounds a bit like the overture from cats
Some of my best jams have been licc based 😂 . As memey as it is there's definitely a good reason it ever became one!
Can the Dies Irae be considered the first musical meme?