The point gap between Gretzky and 2nd place (Jagr) is bigger than the point gap between 2nd place Jagr and 100th place. I didn’t believe it until I looked it up. Insane.
Great find. And absolutely mind blowing, agreed. Before Dionne even retired, Gretzky blew by him in points, despite Dionne having a 10 year head start lol
Gretzky doesn't get talked about enough. He needs a great documentary made like Jordans last dance. What he did all time is amazing, what he did relative to his peers is insanity. Averaging almost 2pts a game for a career is ridiculous. Can say alot of the same for Mario, whose story is maybe more of a rollercoaster. Unbelievable!
@@jimywho1original I don't think a Gretzky documentary needs any drama added. Just the story to be out there in a context that makes his production as a player understandable. From his days as a kid, all the attention, the expectations. The records coming up, WHA, then NHL, Edmonton then the trade... His impact in LA then his end in NYR also world championships, global impact as a star, his being benched at olympics etc... etc... Plenty of storyline to show.
@@v4v819 I went to games and saw them on local TV in the early NHL days of the Jets. There wasn't all this blackout nonsense back then for no sellouts at home. Watched all their games.
Lemieux retired the first time in 97 in 6th place all time with only 745 games played. That crazy! Lemieux, Orr and Gretzky are in a class of their own.
Of those fifteen players at the end of the list, a third of them played on the Penguins first cup winning team in 1991. Shows how crazy good that team was.
@@samuelluria4744 yeah really. Don't forget joe mullen and ulf Samuelson too. And having badger bob Johnson and scotty bowman on the coaching staff. Wowsers.
@@johntempleton3560 this whole gretzky never got hit and was overprotected was bullshit. he was hit like everyone else and had protectors like every other star (yes lemieux) has had through out history
@@jenzim3639 he did have marty mcsorley as a deterent, but he was rarely needed. how bout this. go watch game tape of Gretzky in his post edmonton years. watch how much he skates with his head down. when you're not worried about getting hit, the eyes arent as concerned anymore. the only player i ever saw hit him hard (and it was actually a little dirty) was gary suter in a canada cup game. it was obvious that suter broke code, cause after, almost every player on team canada took swipes at suter the rest of the game. btw, to also reinforce that it was "code" not to hit #99, after suter did, none of his team usa teammates came to his defense even though he was getting targeted by all team canada
The picture of Paul Thomson from the late 30s is the one from the current player, playing in the AHL. Kind of stuck out seeing a colored picture with all the black and white ones. Also, don't know how that would look but could be interesting to know in the timeline when a said player retired and what year. You can kind of get it, since points aren't being added, but could still bring one more level of indormation
cuz all he does is shoots. one of the most selfish players of all time. hes taken around 500 more shots then gretzky and played about 200 less games. he wont pass him in that 210 games and he'll be the all time shot leader if he does pass him at all. gretzkey hit this goal number with not actualy needing even a goal to lead the league in all time points.
gretzky has 382 points in the playoffs alone.. LMAO.. Think about this for sec. Imagine if the OIlers didn't have the 2 line pass ? lol the oilers dynasty especially the 85 team could score 600 goals if the 2 line pass was not there then , I am just visioning coffey feeding the puck or gretzkys mind sake passing with out the 2 line pass be crazy in my opinion considering he was nasty with the 2 line pass lol
In an alternate universe, Steve Yzerman never injures his knee, Gordie Howe never plays in the WHA, and both reach 2k points! If you count his 6 WHA seasons Howe put up well over 2k points and Yzerman would have missed less time in his prime and played longer without his knee injury.
wha had higher scoring and lower level. he was about a ppg in the nhl and jumped to almost 1.5ppg in the wha while past his prime. this is the same with howe. these arnt the same leagues especialy at the beginning of the wha
@moody9442 agreed, but he had a lot left in the tank when he left the NHL. hindsight being 20/20 he should have stayed in the NHL and been at least top 5 in goals he and his son would be in the 700 club together
The greatest thing about Gretzky is he will never claim to be the best player. His GOAT is Gordie Howe and he will tell anyone who will listen that Mario was better than him. He is truly great and humble at the same time. I love him so much.
2:17 Gordie Howe got to 1500 points before anybody else got to 1000 points. He got to 1800 points around the same time Jean Beliveau got 1200 points. 50% more!
Kind of like what Gretzky did with 2,857 points. No one else had even broken Gordie How’s 1850 at the time. 1200 point lead on all (active) players upon retirement. Over a 1000 point lead on Gordie Howe.
@@September2004 - that’s why I stipulated 1200 point lead on all “active” players, because that’s the stat that actually matters here. That’s more than a 50% lead actually.
My favorite stat in all of sports is, that if Wayne Gretzky never scored a goal, he'd still be first all-time in points.
I remember in hockey pools you can only use his assists. And he'd still win the scoring title...
@@NoName-vx6up a few years in our playoffs pools we split Gretzky. You could draft him for assists. Or draft him for goals.
If Hank Aaron never hit a home run, he'd still have 3000 hits
Really
The point gap between Gretzky and 2nd place (Jagr) is bigger than the point gap between 2nd place Jagr and 100th place. I didn’t believe it until I looked it up. Insane.
watching gretzky pass dionne with a 10 year head start before he retires is the craziest thing in sports history.
Great find. And absolutely mind blowing, agreed. Before Dionne even retired, Gretzky blew by him in points, despite Dionne having a 10 year head start lol
gretzky passing dionne with having a 10 year head start is crazy to watch. easily the best ever.
And he did it before Dionne even retired! Crazy.
Gretzky doesn't get talked about enough. He needs a great documentary made like Jordans last dance.
What he did all time is amazing, what he did relative to his peers is insanity.
Averaging almost 2pts a game for a career is ridiculous.
Can say alot of the same for Mario, whose story is maybe more of a rollercoaster. Unbelievable!
Gretz is too much of a good dude for that, he's down to earth and doesn't have an ego that'll make a drama like last dance grip sports fans
@@jimywho1original I don't think a Gretzky documentary needs any drama added. Just the story to be out there in a context that makes his production as a player understandable. From his days as a kid, all the attention, the expectations. The records coming up, WHA, then NHL, Edmonton then the trade... His impact in LA then his end in NYR also world championships, global impact as a star, his being benched at olympics etc... etc... Plenty of storyline to show.
Lucky enough to watch Gretzky in the WHA and early NHL years when the Oilers came to Winnipeg.
Could you watch him on TV back then or just when he played the Jets???
@@v4v819 I went to games and saw them on local TV in the early NHL days of the Jets. There wasn't all this blackout nonsense back then for no sellouts at home. Watched all their games.
@@timoteoferguson6443 Wow amazing! Thanks for answering!
Lemieux retired the first time in 97 in 6th place all time with only 745 games played. That crazy! Lemieux, Orr and Gretzky are in a class of their own.
Don't rest on the Rocket (first to score 50 in 50) and Howe (top ten in scoring for 20 seasons! And an All-Star when he was 50).
yeah, for me, Super Mario is the #2 greatest of all time, and I know Mr. Hockey fans will not agree but - it's true!
Wayne took first in 780 games.
What’s even crazier is Gretzky hit #1 in all time points in almost the same number of games that it took Lemieux to hit #6! 😮
Of those fifteen players at the end of the list, a third of them played on the Penguins first cup winning team in 1991. Shows how crazy good that team was.
Trottier(Recchi?), Coffey, Francis (Recchi?), Jagyr, Lemieux.
Unreal.
@@samuelluria4744 yeah really. Don't forget joe mullen and ulf Samuelson too. And having badger bob Johnson and scotty bowman on the coaching staff. Wowsers.
@@nicholasshuble4119 - I remember when Joe Mullen was in Calgary....the good old days...
And Trottier just BARELY missed that top 15.
Mario, Jagr, Francis, Coffey and Recchi.
That was VERY well done!
Wayne Gretzky is the most dominant Hockey player ever
His 2,857 points is nearly 1,000 more than second place
Underrated video
Marcel Dionne: my personal pick as the greatest player to never win a Cup.
Agreed. Things would have been very different if Montreal had selected him instead of Lafleur in 71.
Loved when they ended up together on my Rangers!!! Too short-lived, but, oh well...
40 years later Gordie Howe is still that high on the list, incredible.
Wayne will be at the top for a lot longer than 40 years.
Important to keep in mind early on, they played like 20-30 games a season. So Cy Denneny scored as many goals as games played some years even more.
He also played when there was only 3 and then 4 teams. He had lots of goals, hardly any assists but only won one Richard trophy and one Art Ross. Lol.
good video
Gretzky and Ruth, the two most dominant players in their respective sports.
LOL Joe Thornton at the end is all like PEEKABOO
And thats why kids, HE is called The Great One.
his Edmonton days im not sure about, but from LA to the end of his career, nobody hit him anymore
@@johntempleton3560 not true. th-cam.com/video/5E6FggzXz3I/w-d-xo.html
@@johntempleton3560 this whole gretzky never got hit and was overprotected was bullshit. he was hit like everyone else and had protectors like every other star (yes lemieux) has had through out history
messier crushing him, obviously not his edmonton days. th-cam.com/video/IHeDmp2Hz2o/w-d-xo.html
@@jenzim3639 he did have marty mcsorley as a deterent, but he was rarely needed. how bout this. go watch game tape of Gretzky in his post edmonton years. watch how much he skates with his head down. when you're not worried about getting hit, the eyes arent as concerned anymore. the only player i ever saw hit him hard (and it was actually a little dirty) was gary suter in a canada cup game. it was obvious that suter broke code, cause after, almost every player on team canada took swipes at suter the rest of the game. btw, to also reinforce that it was "code" not to hit #99, after suter did, none of his team usa teammates came to his defense even though he was getting targeted by all team canada
best part was jagr at the end
The slow roll.
Also, while I have a love/hate relationship with him, Phil Esposito doesn't get talked about enough either.
I've been saying that for awhile, he really doesn't get talked about much, he was a beast.
The picture of Paul Thomson from the late 30s is the one from the current player, playing in the AHL. Kind of stuck out seeing a colored picture with all the black and white ones.
Also, don't know how that would look but could be interesting to know in the timeline when a said player retired and what year. You can kind of get it, since points aren't being added, but could still bring one more level of indormation
The great one is cold as hell yo!!!😎🥶
I don’t know hockey much by any means but where is ovechkin? Was fully expecting his name to creep up there towards the end.
ovi is a goal scorer, most his points are in goals pretty sure and he currently.... *looks at stats* 1400 points almost 800 of which are goals.
Him and Crosby are lurking slightly outside of this list. Update in a year or two and you'll seen them here.
hes selfish. all he cares about is goals and his team suffers for it.
The difference between first (Wayne) and second (Jagr) is 936 points. The difference between Jagr and 103rd (Keon) is 935 points.
Cy Denneny : THE GOAT!
Oh wait... Nevermind...
It's nuts how Ovi is chasing Howe and Gretzky for goals, and isn't even on this list.
cuz all he does is shoots. one of the most selfish players of all time. hes taken around 500 more shots then gretzky and played about 200 less games. he wont pass him in that 210 games and he'll be the all time shot leader if he does pass him at all. gretzkey hit this goal number with not actualy needing even a goal to lead the league in all time points.
@@jenzim3639 yep ovi is an offensive player were as gretzky was a 200ft player, knew the ice like no one else.
and never will be. hes selfish
gretzky has 382 points in the playoffs alone.. LMAO.. Think about this for sec. Imagine if the OIlers didn't have the 2 line pass ? lol the oilers dynasty especially the 85 team could score 600 goals if the 2 line pass was not there then , I am just visioning coffey feeding the puck or gretzkys mind sake passing with out the 2 line pass be crazy in my opinion considering he was nasty with the 2 line pass lol
In an alternate universe, Steve Yzerman never injures his knee, Gordie Howe never plays in the WHA, and both reach 2k points!
If you count his 6 WHA seasons Howe put up well over 2k points and Yzerman would have missed less time in his prime and played longer without his knee injury.
What about jagr not playing 5 years in the KHL?
@@969kurt Or if Mario wasn’t plagued with medical problems
@@edited1325 Glad someone brought up this point. Had he remained healthy, I believe he would have been the greatest of all time.
Orr, Bossy, Lemieux, Bobby Hull, Kerr, Neely Lindros, Forsberg....many other what ifs.
Gretzky missed a combined couple of years due to injuries, lockouts and a contract holdout. No one was better than Gretzky.
Interesting. I was expecting Ovi to be on this list
Him and Crosby will soon I'm the next season or two.
@@braddivens5179 looks like this season, they are both less than 20 points away
he doesnt pass.
lol if you add his WHA stats, Bobby Hull is #2 on this list for a long time!!!
wha had higher scoring and lower level. he was about a ppg in the nhl and jumped to almost 1.5ppg in the wha while past his prime. this is the same with howe. these arnt the same leagues especialy at the beginning of the wha
@moody9442 agreed, but he had a lot left in the tank when he left the NHL. hindsight being 20/20 he should have stayed in the NHL and been at least top 5 in goals he and his son would be in the 700 club together
The greatest thing about Gretzky is he will never claim to be the best player. His GOAT is Gordie Howe and he will tell anyone who will listen that Mario was better than him. He is truly great and humble at the same time. I love him so much.
its true. hes the type of player to have an 8 pt game and give the credit to the 4th line.
Four former Red Wings on this list of 15 - Howe, Dionne, Yzerman and Coffey
Dude Paul Coffey was insane! There are really great offensive wingers who will never pass his stats!
You'd think Jagr would have played at least 18 games there at some point near the extremely prolonged end.
Ron Francis never seems to get his due. Same with Marcel Dionne.
Very true. Played a good part of his early career in Hartford, then under Mario and Jagr's shadow.
I'll never forget seeing the power play unit of:
Mario Lemieux
Jaromir Jagr
Ron Francis
Paul Coffey
Larry Murphy
Absolutely insane.
High scoring era or not.. nobody has consistently dominated their peers over that time span... in any sport.
what about don bradman
@@huh968 he used PEDs for years.
@@huh968 Reality.. lol
2:17 Gordie Howe got to 1500 points before anybody else got to 1000 points.
He got to 1800 points around the same time Jean Beliveau got 1200 points. 50% more!
Kind of like what Gretzky did with 2,857 points. No one else had even broken Gordie How’s 1850 at the time. 1200 point lead on all (active) players upon retirement. Over a 1000 point lead on Gordie Howe.
@@michaelgriffiths8068 Except Gretzky didn’t play in the same era as Howe.
@@September2004 - that’s why I stipulated 1200 point lead on all “active” players, because that’s the stat that actually matters here. That’s more than a 50% lead actually.
@@michaelgriffiths8068 Ah, ok. Gotcha.
Trippy
MY LORD!? How names have changed....
Damn I forgot Ted Kennedy played hockey before his political career
Joe Malone was out here lol
wow gordie howe had 1500 points before anyone got 1000
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Wayne Gretzky is the best hockey player ever - 2857 points
theirs a bigger gap between gretzky and jagr is about the same as jagr and kariya whos sitting in 100th place
Где Овечкин??! Он что заблудился??)
На фоне этих мастодонтов хоккея - да, он потерялся.
He's not on that list thanks his selfishness.
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guy lafleur c est le meilleur
Nice to see some Red wings in there !!