Thanks! We're appreciative of the creativity and approach of all of Line's skis. If you couldn't tell, though, the Sakana holds a special place in our hearts as well. SE
Bob, Jeff, first thing’s first> I felt so compelled to give feedback. The time and effort you and the team spend on testing, composing the wall, and providing your perspective on each product you put up there is not an easy task. You make it look effortless and is nothing short of impeccable! I find the video segments inserted for each and every ski in action while you’re explaining the ski is extremely value added. I spend hours on end watching and re-watching your reviews. The only thing I hate about your reviews is it results in me buying yet another set of skis!😉 Outstanding job to Jeff, Bob, and the rest of the Skiessentials team for setting the bar in the industry! 👏👏 Having said that, will you be doing the next width category, maybe a 110-120?
Thanks so much! That's like the nicest comment we've ever gotten, and we will not look down on you for buying more skis--that's part of the fun! We'll be moving to the mid-90's for the next video, mainly based on what we have in stock at the moment, but we have a 110 and then a Powder ski video on the list as well. If you have any specific questions about a wider ski, please let us know! SE/Bob
I will second the "go your own way" recommendation. Been trying to find a particular ski to fill my quiver and have noticed in demoing skis it doesn't really matter what the stats are, they can't really express its character until u ski them. And skis I enjoy are not what I thought I would on paper.
Fascinating and hugely helpful comparison and review! Appreciate all the time you guys are putting into these. Helps people like me who don't have the mountain around the corner and are left doing desktop research a lot! Question I was hoping you could help with: I was put on a pair of Atomic Bent 100s in the Swiss Alps last week and was blown away by how manoeuvrable and versatile they were. Was a joy skiing them. Led me to do some research with the help of your videos for the purpose of buying a new pair of skis. Looking for width of 100-105, something versatile across the mountain and was hoping to keep the weight down (as I suspect one of the reasons I had such a good time on the Bents is its lightness). I ended up shortlisting the following 4: Atomic Bent 100 @ 188cm / Blizzard Hustle 10 @ 188cm / Nordica Enforcer Free 104 @ 186cm / Nordica Enforcer Unlimited 104 @186cm. (I'm 190cm tall.) Think these are all great skis (though the Bents are noticeably absent from most "best skis reviews") but any tips or insights as I zero in on the final choice would be appreciated. Thanks!
If you had a great time on the Bent, it's tough to talk you out of it. I'd say the Enforcer Free could get crossed off, especially if you're looking to keep the weight down and the maneuverability up. The Unlimited is awesome because it employs the same shape as the 104 Free but with more pop and less mass. Hustle has some bounce and grip to it as well, but I don't find it quite as engaging as the Unlimited. I'd narrow focus to Bent and Unlimited, with the Nordica being the better floater and carver of the two while Bent is more playful.
@SkiEssentials Massively appreciate you taking the time to answer mine and others' questions! Best online ski advice, by far! 104 Unlimited in the bag, or should I say, quiver!
Lol I put a pivot on a backland 107 a few years ago and people gave me shit for it. Really a great ski for powder and off piste here in Colorado. I do find it is a bit limited on really firm stuff, but if the snow is soft it will carve for days. It’s really fun to have a ski that’s light on your feet. It’s a fun experience. People who have never skied a backland give it a hard time, but anyone I I’ve met who has skied them knows how good they are. Also, my local mom and pop tuning and rental shop has decided to pick up a bunch of liberty origins as rental skis after I brought them in and the owner asked what I thought of them. She did a hand flex and gave it the seal of approval.
We say it again and again: 1) There is no wrong way to go about this. Backland 107 with Pivot makes perfect sense to me, and I'm glad you had fun on it as well, and 2) We've seen some very high-level skiing done on the 107. If you find the limit of the ski, you are above a collegiate-racer level skier. Glad you enjoy the Backland! SE
Hi Folks! Seeking for an advice :) I am a more advanced skier and looking for a new pair of all mountain ski.Till now I rode on wayback88 but I feel I need something more powerfull, strong and all around. What I am looking for is when you will go somewhere in the alps, that you can go through in all conditions in one day, startin in a powder, soft snow, crud, crust icy and in the end slush. also descending from some steep culuars (45degrees and more) It will be 90% free touring and rest resort. I am ok to have 4kg pair of ski and I am 176 cm tall My Research include this skis : DPS koala 103 Ranger 102 Black crows justis black crows artis Blizard hustle 10 (I think no - has thiner edges then rest ) Rossignol sender 104 Many thanks in advance !
Hello! I like the idea of the Ranger 102 or Atris. I know a lot of people who have put tech bindings on those skis and used them for the application you're describing. The Koala 103 feels a bit clunky in tight terrain, and the Justis is heavy, so might wear you out a little while touring. Sender could work too, but something about the personality of the Ranger and Atris make them feel like great choices. Hope that helps!
I think someone at Line skis was assigned to create new skis and that person just thought I’m going to copy the Blizzard Rustler and use our Blade metal cut out and it will work and because the Rustler so popular it just works as an alternative sales at the ski shop. Everyone at Line skis pop a bottle and celebrate 😊
There's more differences than that, but we couldn't help notice the similarities for sure. The thickness of the sidewalls and then the thinness of the tips and tails make for a much more playful ski experience.
in the PNW the enforcer 104 free has been my daily driver for the past 2 seasons. I like the weight of the ski in the heavier snow. In between powder days this ski does it all for me. ( skiing inbounds at the resort )
Gents, excellent reviews. Cracking up at the Olukai hat on Bob. Sets the tone for the relaxed nature you guys always give off. I am going head first (pun intended) into backcountry this year and went with a really light setup so I'll let you know as a non backcountry skier how stable I feel on tech bindings. Keep the reviews coming. And, if you guys have time for reviewing tech bindings with regards to durability/reliability as well as skiability (vs mainly for uphill), I would appreciate your input/recommendations. Thx
HI Cam! Thanks for the feedback, and for uphill skiing and longer tours, light weight is the way to go. We've found that with tech/tour gear, there are as many opinions as skiers out there--very little agreement, it seems, but very strong feelings about certain gear. If you posed this question to a more popular A/T thread, you'll likely be pretty overwhelmed with the tech talk. We have to spend most of our time on the majority of stuff we sell, so we don't often have the resources to dive deeply into the A/T side of the spectrum. Personally, I've had plenty of success on my Marker Alpinist 12's, but if you google a review on those, you're going to see a storm of criticism versus a few happy skiers. Sorry I can't be of more help in this endeavor! SE
@@SkiEssentials Very true about the opinions. As you probably figured out by now I do a lot of research before making a decision sometimes and that is why I find you guys sooooo helpful. Appreciate the candid feedback as always. I'll give you my OPINION of my setup once I've logged some serious hours. BTW, I went Atomic Backland 100s and Salomon MTN Pure's for my uphill setup. You guys sold me on the Atomic Backland's and I have researched the heck out of tech bindings and landed on Salomon due to reliability/durability/weight and trusted brand. Hoping I made a good decision. Guess we'll find out... Pray for snow!
@@SkiEssentials Been out on the new Atomic Backland 100s with the Salomon MTN Pure's a few times now and honestly love the weight saving going uphill vs my QST106s and Shifts. Was seriously worried about pushing the MTN Pure bindings, but so far so good. Also, super easy to transition from uphill to down. Always a big plus....Seriously guys, the reviews help me make decisions on gear so very appreciative.
Skied the revolt 104s here in Oz for 20days + took a little getting used to as started on hardpack but loved it after a few days in on a mix of snow conditions. Surfy as you say in pow and stiff enough to charge pretty quickly. Only got nervous on 🧊 pack. 172s for a 63kg 172 male worked find
They do have a very nice-looking and comprehensive lineup! We are not currently a dealer so we don't put as much focus on their product versus what we sell. Maybe this is the year!
Maybe not the best comparison, but if you had to choose between either the Armada Declivity 102 or QST 106 for a daily driver in Colorado, which one would you go with? Looking for something for the whole mountain. Bonus points to the ski that can grow with me as I work on my skills.
Really just a matter of your skiing style and preferences. Declivity 102 will feel a little stronger, both at speed in any terrain and when carving turns on groomers. QST 106, on the other hand, is more playful, has better float in soft snow, etc. I would say it kind of comes down to how fast you like to ski and your terrain preferences. If you're always looking to get off trail into softer snow, go QST. If you're looking for more of a mix of that and some groomer performance, go Declivity. Hope that helps!
Hiii, i'm considering the ranger 96 or the ranger 102, the head kore 105, or the nordica enforcer 104 free. Which one do I choose. I'm 180cm and 75kg (165,3 pounds) and consider myself as an advanced skier. Mostly skiing in Europe. I'm used to head oblivion 90 but is looking for something wider and capable of cutting through yet still playful and fun. I love to ride all over the mountain but is looking for a wider one ski quiver. Thanks:)
I like the sounds of the narrower skis for your application. I'd say Ranger 96 or the Kore 99. Of those, the Kore is more precise and stiff when it comes to firm snow and the Ranger is more playful and freeride-oriented for softer and deeper snow. Have fun! SE
Hello Ive been considering for such a long time between: - Nordica Unleashed 108 - K2 Mindbender 108ti - Dynaster M Free 108 - Black Crows Atris I’m 6’1 / 80kg / Advanced intermediate skier. I was looking for a maneuverable and playful ski on powder and that also provided a good level of stability and handled well at high speeds. I wanted something that I could take in the tight trees and moguls that could also charge down an open bowl with minimal chatter. Cheers guys
I think you're looking at the K2. The M-Free and Atris are on the surfier side, and the Unleashed may be more of a twin tip than what you're looking for. I think the K2 has a nice blend of these attributes, and the new version is considerably better in all phases than the outgoing 108. Have fun! SE
You mentioned that the Sender 106 is a bit too wide for groomers but didn't say the same for the Sender 104; they're actually the same width underfoot with the 104 having wider tips/tails. I wonder how much a name affects the perception of a ski... (You could have made that comment for everything on the wall, I'm probably reading too much into it)
No, I hear you, and the naming of the skis is confusing, since the 180 in the 106 is 104, but the 187 and 194 are 106. The Sender 104, in the shorter lengths and corresponding shorter radii, is actually a fantastic carver, and the flat tail with the camber underfoot put them in the upper echelon of carving skis in this category. Do any of these skis carve as well as a Volkl Deacon 76 Master or Blizzard HRC? Absolutely not, but relative to the category, the Rossignol's have earned high praise for sure.
Have not been on the Atris, but the 104 Free is a blast. Borrowed a friends pair and loved them. They turn well on piste, are great in trees and midwest pow.
Enforcer is a better turner and charger. Atris, more so now than before, is a playful and smeary ski in the fresh that does fine on the groomers, but is still no Enforcer 104 Free. I'd say the Atris is more like the Enforcer 104 Unlimited in softer snow and slarvy nature.
First like... what did I win? Fall is in the air at Stowe. I like the Ripsticks for all around enjoyable skiing at the resort. They're not overly demanding, but they can still do it all.
How does Black crows atris compare to Nordica enforcer free 104 unlimited. What would you recommend between 50/50 tight trees (Swedish forrests) and big mountain (alps) objectives?
I think the Unlimited 104 is a fantastic choice for trees and tight turns. The Atris is more lively than ever before, but it's still on the burly side. I think you get a lot more agility and maneuverability from the Unlimited.
New Atris is quite a bit more energetic than the older version. I really like that ski, and I think the new model differentiates itself from skis like Anima within BC's lineup. Now it's a clearer choice for a mid-100's freeride ski.
What's your other ski? The Mantra 102 and Blaze 106 are about as dissimilar as it gets in terms of power, weight, and performance. The 102 is a high-octane carver that powers through anything and everything while the Blaze 106 is a dancer that floats simply above the softer snows of the mountain.
My hard snow ski is the Kendo 88, and I love it. Currently I’m looking for an all mountain wide ski s for the occasional powder day out west. Currently have the Head Kore 105 and love it, but was thinking I’d get something a little more crud-busting and the Kore doesn’t handle chop too well. So I’m looking at the Volkls, the Head Kore again, the Solomon QST 106, or the K2 Mindbender. Only have so many days and wa want to narrow the number of demos Thx!
Really interesting comment from Bob on the 104 Unlimited vs. the Bent 100. I ski a Bent 100 and have been progressing my skiing to the point where I'd like something a bit stronger on the groomers, but I don't want to give up the maneuverability in trees, and soft snow / bumps. Would the 104 Unlimited provide that? Have you moved away from the Bent 100 to the 104 Unlimited yourself?
I have moved away from the Bent 100 to the 104, and it happened last spring. There were a few days in the woods with soft snow, and I went back and forth. In the trees, and only in the trees, the performance is kind of a wash. All other zones, I prefer the energy and shape of the 104--it's a much better and cleaner turner than the Bent. This is no insult to the Bent, rather a glowing review of the 104.
@@SkiEssentials Thanks a ton for the detailed feedback. I've been on the 104 once and really liked it in soft snow. I'll give it another go now that we're in a bit of a dry spell in CA. I tried the Atris in UT this past weekend and really liked it after about a day and a half. Skied the last day on the Bent 100 and felt like getting back into comfy jeans but I missed the edge grip and energy that the Atris provided. Looking forward to a couple days on the 104 Unlimited and will make a call. Thanks again!
what length were you guys skiing in that QST 106? I live in Utah and own the Blanks in 186, but I'm seriously considering replacing it with that 106. Lighter, a little easier to ski, and doubt I'd miss the width in all but the deepest days out here. 6'2" 185lbs advanced, but I'm still leaning towards the 181cm for the fun factor. Thoughts?
Bob (me) was on the 189 and Jeff the 181. I've skied the 181 and found it to be fine, but for Utah and deeper snow, I'd go longer. I'm 6/2 225, so while we share a height, I have about 45 pounds on you. I don't think being lighter would make me want to alter my size down to the 181--if you're on the 186 Blank, I'd say the 189 106 is more similar. If you're looking for more similar, get the 189, but for more playfulness and maneuverability, 181 will not be too short--I skied it in about 1.5 feet of snow here in VT and did just fine. Have fun! SE
Thanks for the thorough review.... Just coming off the Kore 105 and wanted to change it up. I'm a 50 year old ex racer and still love to charge and jib so looking for something to do it all in the BC mountains. Settled on the QST 106 and looking forward to next season to try them.... thanks! PS. I threw on the Shifts just for those odd day side country turns.... 95% resort still.
Thank you for another great review guys. You are my go-to channel for ski info… I have a question: I just sold my 2020 Nordica Enforcer Free 110 in 191 cm. It was a bit too heavy and maybe too much ski for me, so Im looking for a new daily driver. I’m late 40’ies and have been skiing for 1000 years. Not an expert but maybe an anvanced skier. 187 cm and 85 kg. I dont ski park or butter etc. but I like a pretty centered stance I ski resort and offpiste. Mostly in The Alps. I would like something that can go fast but also slow. I have been considering to mount a Salomon Shift or Dynafit Rotation binding for lightness and the ocational uphill struggle. I have been looking at the Nordica Enforcer Unlimited 104 and the Faction Mana 3. I would appreciate any wise words from you guys :)
Hello! If you're thinking about slapping an AT binding on them, I would go with the Enforcer 104 Unlimited over the Mana. Just feels a little lighter, so more efficient for the uphills, and doesn't sacrifice too much downhill performance. Also, considering you've been skiing the 110, you're going to adapt to the 104 Unlimited really quickly as the shapes are basically identical. You'll appreciate the lighter feel, I think. Hope that helps! Not too much in the lighter-weight twin tip world. At least not that can accept a more centered mount point.
I am immediately drawn to that Pagoda 106. Premium construction (one of the few manufacturers who know what they are doing with carbon), not a ton of splay, stiff, relatively long radius and PURPLE! What's not to like?
Totally, Tony--that quality is definitely noticeable in the way that they make the 106 such a strong and powerful carver. It's pretty impressive what they can do with a blend of three different woods in the laminate and the dual carbon layers. Very sophisticated stuff, and it comes through in performance as well.
What are the best all mountain ski at arount 100mm width that ca still perform well on firm snow ? I've heard the bent 100 has its limits i was wondering if there was an all mountain/freeride skis that is playful and that can still perform well on firm snow groomers
If you're looking for a ski like the Bent but carves better, I'd check out the Salomon QST 98, Nordica Unleashed 98, or the Armada Declivity 102. Lots of great skis here!
Which ski blends the best on-piste and off-piste performance? I have a pair of Blaze 106 with Kingpins that I absolutely love. Looking for something for Whistler resort skiing. Wondering if something between 95-100 or 100-105 is the better option... Cheers!
I'd say the Enforcer 104 Free and Sender 104Ti are right up there with the best of them that can carve really well on-trail but still have great acumen when it comes to flotation, crud, and tree skiing. Chances are, with that set of parameters, either of these skis will be fantastic.
You guys have done the 88-92 width in the 90 comparison and 102-107 in this 100 comparison. Can we expect a mid-90s comparison soon? Seems like 94-96 is a big sweet spot for the industry today.
The Mana lies more on the freestyle side of the spectrum than the Blade Optic's freeride heritage. In that realm, the Mana is a much better park ski that happens to do fine on-trail, while the Blade Optic is a charging freeride ski that happens to have playful tips and tails for when the ski needs to be floaty or fun.
Why not K2 Mindbender 106Ti here? It is funny because I think it is great freeride ski and not really powder ski how you match it. This is a power tank not a surfer. Powder is K2 116C imo
I think a good place to start is there's more freestyle influence in the Atris shape. More rise in the tail, much closer to a twin tip. That gives it some switch skiing capabilities that the Ripstick doesn't have. Elan has more of a directional shape, which IMO helps it feels more responsive as a directional ski, but not as surfy or as balanced as the Atris. Aside from that, the Ripstick is a little stiffer, which enhances that "more-responsive" feel even further. A little more stable at speed too, although not as playful as the Atris overall. Hope that helps!
Hello! great comparison video. Could you please tell me the difference between the Salomon QST106 and the Atomic Backland 107? How would these skis feel compared one to the other. Thanks!!!
Hello! Weight's going to be the biggest different between those skis. QST 106 is quite a bit heavier. That's giving you a lot more stability at speed and a quieter, smoother feel. Less likely to get deflected or in other words, would track better through choppy snow. Backland is obviously better for someone who's touring a lot because it's so much lighter, but in a resort application, you're definitely sacrificing some stability and vibration damping. It's a strong ski considering its weight, but certainly more likely to get deflected and just not as confidence-inspiring at speed.
Thank you for making these videos they are a huge help! I'm interested in your thoughts on how the "new type" skis you mentioned compare vs the metal skis. Specifically looking at the QST vs the Enforcer 104 free. Weight and shape seem pretty similar.
Hi Chris! It's interesting what they're doing these days, and a lot of it comes down to preference. I'm 6/2 225 and I prefer the carbon-powered skis like Head Kore, Enforcer Unlimited, and Scott Mission to the Enforcer Free, Bonafide, etc. I like the energy of the carbon over the dampness of the metal. It seems that you have to get the metallic skis up to a certain speed in order to access the majority of the performance while the carbon laminates can do more at a wider range of speeds. Again, this comes down to more preference than a black/white performance character, although we still see race skis and other high-end skis mainly using metal in order to generate power. In terms of the QST vs. Enforcer, the QST's use of carbon and flax make the ski snappy and poppy while the metal of the Enforcer keep it on the duller side, at least in terms of feeling on the feet. The QST is able to use a thicker poplar wood core while the Enforcer is a bit thinner profile, using the two sheets of metal to gain the sturdiness. If you're not looking for a super-powerful ski, like most skiers, but still want a high-end of performance, I think that there's a lot of room for the carbon-powered skis and non-metal laminates out there. Hope that helps! SE
Personally, I found the QST to be a more engaging ski from a turning/carving perspective, and while that's not really the overall intent of these skis, I do find it to be a nice benefit. In soft snow, and from a flotation perspective, the Atris is more of a point-and-shoot option while the Salomon does prefer to be in more of a turn most of the time. They feel very similar from a dampness and energy standpoint, but if you're a more aggressive skier who likes making less turns, the Atris is a more suitable option.
Need help with a 1 ski quiver for pnw skiing , alwaysblooking more fun than hard charging , but hit crud and hard pack while looking for soft. Adv/int. Rustler 10 or blade optic (or declivity 102)? 5'7 165, 172?
Love the reviews, you guys do a great job! I have a pair of Jskis Slackers (110mm underfoot /188cm long)... and looking for something around 97-104mm to pair with it. I ski about 12 days a year in the Rockies and spend most of my time off-piste in trees and moguls. Really want something nimble and maybe a bit shorter (180-185) as a second ski (200lb / 6'2" - expert); the bent chetlers seem like maybe a good option (bob seems to enjoy). Do you have any clear recommendation or thoughts?
There's a good deal of grip difference between the Bent 100 and the Ranger 102. I think if you want anything remotely close to a clean carved turn on the groomers, the Ranger has to be the front runner. If playfulness, trees, bumps, and powder are top priority, and you can deal with less carving performance, I'd go with the Bent.
Hi, I'm looking for a opinion between unlimited 104 and backland 107 , looking for 50/50 one ski quiver which is light , how the skis feel mostly offpist, trrees, steep skiing .
I like the Backland for wider spaces and open skiing, but I love the Unlimited for trees and tighter zones. The Unlimited is a better turner/carver than the Backland, and feels more like an alpine ski at a lighter weight whereas the Backland feels like a touring ski that can also handle resort access. have fun! SE
Hi, thanks for the great video. I'm currently debating between the Hustle 10 and QST 106. I'm 183cm, 153 lb and gonna be in Revelstoke this season, primarily off piste but also looking for some on piste ability. Prefer shorter turns with a more playful style. Also if I was going to go with the Hustle 10 would you recommend 172 or 180 cm? Thanks again
Hey Zach! Any touring in this situation? If not, I'd say go QST. If you are doing some touring, the Hustle is noticeably lighter, so certainly worth considering. QST also works great for short turns and a playful skiing style. It's so agile and fun, which is especially impressive considering its stability. If you do decide to go Hustle, which is certainly a good ski, just doesn't quite match the QST in a resort application, I would go 180.
@@SkiEssentials thanks so much for the advice and yeh no touring. And if looking at the QST do you thnk a 173 would be suitable given my total height is around 183 as I said and me eyes are around 172? Cheers
@@zachgriggs5207 173 would be too short. Think about recovery if you end up in the back seat. This is the primary reason to consider length closer to your height. Have you bought the ski yet?
Hey guys love the show! I'm a 22 year old guy from switzerland and in need of a freeride touring ski. I don't know if I should go for the atomic backland 107 or 100. It should be an everyday touring ski with favoured downhill capabilities and I'm a playful skier that likes to slash some turns in deep powder but also let it go and just rip. Is 107 under foot too wide and heavy for everyday touring in switzerland and am I going to suffer on the uphill and when the snow conditions aren't that great or is the difference to the 100 not that big, but the 100 would certainly be lighter and more versatile but also has less rocker? What do you think?
Thanks, Philipp! You're giving up some soft snow performance for sure if you go to the 100 vs. the 107. The weight isn't a huge difference, but if you're looking for an everyday touring ski, my guess is that you'll be happier overall on the 100 due to the versatility. Unless you're looking to be in fresh snow all the time, I think the 100 makes more sense. Have fun! SE
Do you think there will be an updated version of the Nordica 104 Free for 2024? It's stayed the same for years now, still a great ski just was wondering if there are signs of an update next year.
We're guessing there will be some type of change--perhaps not wholesale. We usually get info trickling in about now, with more solid answers around mid-December.
We're working on it right now! We had to push it back a little through the busy holiday sales period, and it will likely be the last 2023 comparison of the season, but we'll get to it soon!
I have the Pagoda 94 and 106 and I feel the same way as you Jeff, I prefer the 106 for carving. I mentioned this when I was at a DPS test day and I believe they said it was to do with torsional stiffness (don't quote me, I could be wrong)
Have the enforcer 94s in a 172- im 5 7 168. Love the enforcers but think they are a little heavy and looking for a lighter, more playful ski with a different feel. Love to go off trail but still rip turns. Love the trees. Looking for something to complement that that is going to be good on a powder day- would you recommend the enforcer unlimited 104 or the bent chetler 100 and in what size? Tried the bent chetler 100s in a 164 and loved those.
It's hard to argue against what you enjoyed! Bent 100 is an awesome ski. The Unlimited is a bit better of a carving ski on groomed terrain, but the Bent is more playful in the trees. I'd get what you liked!
Hi, Thank you for the awesome review! I'm currently looking at the Blizzard Hustle, Nordica enforcer free & unlimited, QST and Elan Ripstick Blue & Black. I will be using it 40% onpist / 40% offpist in the resort and 20% touring with a Salomon Shift binding. On powder days I tried to be in the powder as much as possible. I ski quite aggressively so a good combination between stability & playfulness is important. I currently tend to go for the Elan Black edition but what would your recommendation be?
Hi Sam! I think you're in a good spot with that, but I'd put in a solid vote for the Enforcer Unlimited due to the lighter weight for touring, but still a great shape and build for all-mountain skiing. They're awesome in the powder, and very playful.
Hey guys! Been watching a lot of your vids lately and they have been super helpful! I’m looking to grab new skis this off-season to replace my 2016 soul 7s. Im looking for something more stable but still light and energetic. I’m 5,11, 170, expert skier but do like softer and more poppy skies. I demoed the QST 106 and enforcer 104 free and found the QST not very agile and the enforcer free too heavy but fun. I’m leaning towards the enforcer free unlimited or hustle 10, I will be skiing on resort, primarily in British Columbia. In your review you mention how similar they are but wondering which you think would be a better ski for a more advanced skier that primarily does trees and bumps but still wants on piste stability. Thanks in advance!
I'm in the exact same position, coming from a pair of soul 7s that I feel are a bit unstable in choppy conditions. A bit taller and skinnier than you, I've been looking at the black crow atris a bit. As you say, also looking for a light, fun and poppy ski but with a bit more stability
I like the round turning nature of the Enforcer Unlimited. While a bit wide for tighter bumps, it's pretty good for wider-spaced and softer moguls. That said, the on-trail capabilities of the ski are more sophisticated than those of the Hustle.
Hello, i really like your reviews! What ski would you guys recommend to someone trying to get more into freetylish skiing on thé slopes? I consider myself a decent skier. And want to start learning switch. 180's etc. I was considering thé koala 103 , blade optic of thé Nordica enforcers. Would love to get some advice
I think given your stats and application, the Optic makes a good amount of sense. Koala is a bit heavy and Enforcer is on the directional side. The Optic is a great blend of on-piste prowess and freestyle acumen.
The Revolt feels quite a bit more substantial than the Reckoner, mostly due to the thickness of the core profile. The K2 is quite thin with the wood, relying on those carbon stringers to do a lot of the lifting while the Revolt is more blocky in style and substance. If you're on the aggressive side of the spectrum, the Revolt will hold up better while the Reckoner tends to bend quite a bit.
Hi team, love the work you are doing, excellent stuff. Please help as I just cannot make my mind up and apologies if its a bit long but I have watched too much footage haha... I mostly ski in Greece, we have a few resorts and lately its been dumping on strong years. 180cm - 82kg - aggressive charging all over the mountain in and out of bounds and hitting cliffs / sidehits and powder & trees, but also lapping icy beat up "blacks" with some atrocious snow / ice and sometimes rocks to avoid. No ultra deep pow and not much park in Greece Will be purchasing either: volkl revolt 104 - 180cm (made in china or germany?) atomic bent 100 - 180cm (maybe the 188cm adds some more strength to it?) nordica enforcer 104 - (179 or 186cm?) Although the revolt and bent sound like the "funner" and more "playful" options for our generally small resorts, the enforcer sounds like it will give the edge on the days of bad snow quality, which is often. Price is also somewhat of an issue here as I can find the bent 200 euros cheaper than the nordica enforcer. All will be mounted with a look pivot 15. Looking for a one ski quiver, durability is also somewhat of a concern. Thanks anyways for the solid content, and if you have some time I would appreciate to hear your thoughts !
Hello! I feel like you're on the right track here. You're right in thinking that the Revolt and Bent are the "funner" and "more playful" options, but I'm not convinced those are better choices for you than the Enforcer 104. Skiing fast through chopped up snow, landing cliffs, and even powder performance are best from the Enforcer 104, IMO. Best on ice too. That said, you're right that there's something to be said about the price difference between it and the Bent 100, and I do think the Bent 100 could accomplish what you're looking for. Just don't expect seemingly endless stability like you'll get with the Enforcer. I personally think you can rule out the Revolt. It just doesn't sound like the right ski for you and I think the Bent actually offers a touch more stability with its higher camber height. Someone could argue the opposite, and I'd listen, but that's how I feel when I ski them. So... My recommendation would be Enforcer 104 Free, 186. I own that ski personally and it sounds like you and I ski in a relatively similar fashion. Other skis are getting closer, but it's still one of the best for aggressive skiing in that style. My second choice would be Bent 100. 188 could be cool if you're trying to recoup some lost power from the Enforcer. Hope that helps!!
@@SkiEssentials Sorry for the late reply team, much appreciate you taking the time to get back to me! Our season delayed quite a lot compared to last year and so I finally ordered the enforcer 104 free 186 cm, arriving Wednesday 1st feb and leaving the next day for a long weekend in the mountains! Im very very curious to see how they will perform, truly ive only seen / heard the best so far. Letting you know my feedback once back from the hill. Take care
@@src248 Curious to know what size you tried them in and how tall you are? I ordered the 170cm and am 170cm tall as well, I'm afraid they might be slightly too short. What was your feeling when skiing them? Thanks buddy
@@romainhj Similarly tried the 188 and am 188cm tall. I did find them a little short but for context I'm on the heavy side, advanced/expert, and used to skiing a 194. Depending on your preferences, the 170 might be right for you
I'd say the Enforcer is more playful mainly because the carbon of the Kore makes it pretty darn stiff. For more of a freeride influence, I'd lean to the Enforcer. Overall, most skiers tend to gravitate to the shape and build of the Enforcer versus the Kore 105.
What would be better for a mountain like Snowbird? Rustler 10 or the Blade optic 104? Or ? Looking for best all mountain ski for snowbird and Alta. I like to ski switch small jumps groomers, crud, trees. Big powder runs, Small powder stash of groomers. Just the best all around but can do good when snowbird gets 2 ft of powder in one storm. Right now I have the Rustler 9. Great Video
If you like the overall character of the Rustler 9, the 10 isn't a big jump. If you're looking for something a bit more consistent from tip to tail, the metal laminate of the Blade Optic certainly provides that. I think the shape and profile of the Line makes it a smoother floater than the Rustler, but that's more of a compliment to the Blade rather than a slight to the Rustler.
Excellent video as always guys.. In your opinion comparing the Enforcer 104 Unlimited to the Salomon QST 106 which shines more off-piste in soft snow? I ski in Europe mostly off piste and its a toss up between these two.
Flotation-wise, I think you're looking at a draw, but the Salomon is just more damp and powerful while the 104 Unlimited is driftier, smearier, and more playful. Since on-piste skiing is likely to factor in on a daily basis, I do think the more stable Salomon makes a bit more sense.
We don't really dabble in the Foundation anymore with DPS. Pagoda and Tour seem to be the way moving forward with that company. Overall, the Foundation is slightly heavier and not as energetic as the carbon-powered versions of the same ski.
Awesome skis. I (Jeff) have grown particularly fond of them. We talked about them in our 100 mm comparison as it felt like the ski was a better fit for that range. Very fun, very well-rounded. Not the strongest ski in the world, not the lightest, nor with the most rocker, but an excellent mix of performance characteristics for a wider all-mountain/narrower freeride ski.
I would, but I'd add that I feel a lot more confident on the Kore in those situations, while in less techy terrain and in deeper snow, the Blaze is a better floater. But if I were looking for something that provides better feedback and grip in addition to being decent in the fresh, I'd lean to the Kore.
I really wanted to love the Blizzard Rustler 10 when I demoed it 2 years ago, but the 172 length felt too short. My sweet spot typically is a 175 length in an all mountain ski. I worried that a 180 Rustler 10 would be too long and was not available to demo at that time. I'm 5'8 160 lbs. (68 year old expert) Thoughts...??? Recommendations?
I think the Rustler 10 or Blade Optic 104 do a great job of mixing attributes that allows them to be strong and stable on variable conditions while remaining predictable and smooth. Sender 104 Ti as well, especially when it comes to directional strength and straight-line speed. Have fun! SE
Hi guys, love the reviews as usual! The QST 106 has been my go-to Whistler ski for the past 5 years. The 181cm is starting to feel a bit short for me now that I ski more and more. I am 6’, 175lbs and 45 years old. I ski mostly blacks and double blacks. The 189cm seems too long. Is there another comparable ski that comes in something like a 184 or 185cm? Also curious whether the new 106 skis longer or shorter. I have the blanks for bigger days in the 186cm and love them but wouldn’t want to go any longer. Thank you!
Excellent video thanks. I'd like your opinion if possible. I have a choice between; -Salomon QST 106 2022. Ex rental great condition -new Elan ripstick 106 2022 Both very similar price. I live in Revelstoke, BC. And am a snowboarder but going to spend this season focusing on skiing. So want a ski I can develop and grow into. So will start on groomers but want to end up in pow, trees and bowls. Which would you recommend of these two? Thanks :)
Are you looking at the rental skis for sale at the resort? They've got great prices, I very nearly bought the Blanks :P (keep in mind new bindings cost $200+ if you haven't factored that in)
@@src248 at powder rentals. $549 for QST, but with those sliding heavier demo bindings but will fit any boot sizes. And today only there is an extra $50 off. So would be $499. Elan I've been offered $539 and they are brand new with new bindings. But not mounted.
The Ripstick is a better groomer ski while the Salomon is a better floater. I'd say the Ripstick, being new and with bindings sounds like a better deal to me, for you.
Do you think the rustler 10 or kore 105 Would best complete my current quiver of Kastle mx 74, dx 85, mpro 90, qst 92, ______? Fyi, the Kore is only 98mm underfoot in my length (163cm) This will be used as West Coast all mountain ski for My yearly vacation. Plus East Coast powder ski. I haven't been on many 100 mm skis. ( I did demo and like the Maverick. Did not care for the BC Justis much, found it Too heavy and stiff to use as my softer snow ski. Really Liked the mfree 99 love my qst 92, just as a reference. ) Advanced Skier. 5'5" 160 lbs. (Pretty strong physically.)Love side hits. Love to go to the trees. But also ski pretty fast on the groomers. I've narrowed it down to these 2 because of the outstanding deal I can get through employee pricing.
I'd say the Rustler makes a bit more sense--that'll make the soft snow more palatable than the Justis while still keeping the firmer snow performance fully intact. Great skis! SE
The Reckoner is considerably lighter and more flexible than the Faction. Some people like the extra weight and stiffness in the park while others prefer the more noodly ski. I think that for a dedicated park ski, the Candide has a bit more to offer, but for playful freeride skiing, the K2 is more adaptive and versatile.
@@SkiEssentials interesting, thanks! I've got new M-Free 108s for my all mountain/powder needs, but my CT2.0s are falling apart now (which I've been using for park) so I'm looking for a park specific ski to replace it that would be a fair bit softer than the M-Frees but not a complete noodle. Maybe the Reckoner would be a bit too soft, but I'm not writing it off just yet! The other option I've been considering is the Armada BDog - do you have any thoughts or other recommendations? Thanks again!
Yes, although I wouldn't consider that a strength of the Ranger 102. It's got enough of a turned-up tail to warrant a freestyle nod, but certainly not the focus. They're on the heavier side for that application. K2 Reckoner 102 or Nordica Unleashed 98 are both fantastic park and pipe skis that handle all-mountain/freeride skiing really well.
While we could have put it on the wide side of this list, we felt the width and intent made it fit better at the low end of the powder ski list. More in common with skis like the Dynastar M-Free 108 and Line Vision 108 in terms of being a fun-loving and playful twin tip, with the Unleashed being more on the freestyle side of the spectrum. th-cam.com/video/V5en_4zf18c/w-d-xo.html
The QST feels like a far more substantial ski than the Origin, which is decidedly more maneuverable and agile. Especially on-trail, the QST is a confident carver, and while the Origin is more playful and freestyle oriented, I think overall the QST is a stout product.
Gentlemen, Thank you for the comprehensive and thoughtful review. I am convinced the Salomon QST 106 is the next ski for me. Two quick questions: 1. Currently one a J Skis Metal (186cm), so 189cm for QST (I'm 6'1, expert level and 180 lbs)? 2. I'm a Marker Jester guy, but they are overkill for me-so I'm thinking Salomon Strive 14 (per your review w/QST)? Keep up the great work. Thanks, Mike
Having tried most bindings including the Strives, they're fine but I'd consider going with the Attack 14 instead. The heel piece is much nicer to use imo and the low/wide platform feels great. Plus they're already proven to be durable and reliable.
Hi Mike! If you're good with the 186, I'd say the 189 is a fine length--certainly a better option than the 180. For bindings, while we like the Strive 14, the 16 is a considerably better heel piece. Yes, it's overkill, but that's the fun part of bindings (Look Pivot 18's!). And to echo Steven's comments, the Attack is a more proven binding, so that's something to consider, with a metal heel rail and a fairly straightforward build, it's been a pretty darn good binding for a while. But, I do love my Strive 16's as well! Very low and light. SE
@@SkiEssentials I wasn't aware the 16 uses the STH2 heel, that's good to know! (Also this comment made me to learn that the price for Pivot 15s jumped $40 CAD this season, I'm going to go cry)
Faction.. I will start off with comparing the Faction.. You mentioned how it was a stiff ski and how it was heavier.. 1900 grams isn't that heavy in my book.. I think there is a difference between stiff skis.. I am hoping that my 2021 DPS Wailer F100 are similar to those Faction in the stiff sense in regards to dampness.. I am curious to see what you are going to say about the DPS Koala and the DPS Pagoda. My guess is that the Koala is stiff but heavier and damper while the Pagoda is stiff and LOT lighter but reactive/responsive. Head Kore is stiff but reactive while the Salomon QST is stiff but damp.
I have to comment on the Enforcers.. I am surprised that I didn't buy a pair yet.. Being in Colorado the weight turn ratio for me does matter.. The days that I can just cruise rule but then there are days that I am forced to turn from people or crud or trees or rocks.. Turns add up.. It gets to the stability or reactionary questions.. It also gets to the floating or tail sticking questions.. Maybe a couple runs don't make a difference but after 20 runs it can make a huge difference.. Those QST 106s x 188 after forcing turns for about 20 runs wore me out and they were great skis.. Maybe I need to work on my surfing or slurfing or whatever word that is;)
Head Kore.. You mentioned the narrower ones being twitchy.. The word I would use is reactionary.. You said that when you bend them then you get shot out.. That is my experience as well.. Is that how the Pagodas are?
DPS.. That C2 shape probably makes it feel like my Stockli Stormriders.. Smearing is the word that I heard you say.. Is that the word you would say on skis that you would surf and say dude on? I am pretty sure these aren't those skis.. ha ha.. I am hoping my RP shaping will smear and surf and I can say dude..
QST.. Waterskis.. These are the skis that I broke my arm on.. 106 x 188.. What length were you on? This is probably were I should have learned how to surf, smear, slide.. Why don't you have Kastle on here? Are they not Freeride skis?
The lazy answer is 6. To dive a bit deeper, the Blank is more heavily rockered and tapered, leading to a shorter overall turn shape. This makes it one of the turnier skis at its level while the new QST 106 has a straighter cut for more directional skiing. The construction is largely the same, it's more the overall width, taper shape, and rocker profile that add to the floaty and smeary nature of the Blank versus the more powerful and edgy 106.
@@SkiEssentials Whoa! Did not expect that. I'm gonna revisit both. I've been leaning towards Nordica Enforcer 104, Solomon QST 106 or Elan Ripstick 104 Black edition
@@SkiEssentials Interesting. I watched your review of the Unlimted model last night. Seems like it "edges" out the others by a slight margin for what I'm looking to do. Boots: Lange XT3 Free, Bindings: Solomon Shift.
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Hey guys, love your reviews. I’ve watched countless hours in the past couple weeks trying to decide what ski to buy! I live in SW Colorado and want a ski besides my volkl mantra m5. I bought the mantra without really knowing what I was getting into, so don’t think I’m a mantra type die hard haha. I want something that’s more playful, and better in the trees/bumps/powder. I also kinda want to experiment with the 50/50 resort/touring type. Realistically probably more like 80/20 resort/touring. I’m stuck between blizzard hustle 10s, Bent 100s, and maybe the volkl blaze 106s. I’m also 5’11” 160lbs if that helps. What would you guys lean towards!? Thanks so much, I appreciate it!
Thanks for the kind words! I think the Hustle 10 is right up your alley. Great in any capacity from touring to resort. I'd think the 172 in that ski will get you what you need.
That is interesting! I was looking at getting new skis this year (probably the Atris) but there are so many cool skis coming soon that I might have to wait, at least until brands start showing the new stuff. Unreasonably excited for the Revolt 11x
Hi, thanks so much for all these vids! I recently broke my Line Vision 108's and am looking for something with a similar feeling and width but a bit more robust, i really loved how playfull they were both on and off piste. I'm a fairly light skier, around 140 pounds, and 5/9 I currently ski 100% in resort but I'm looking to get into something like 30% touring later this season, I ski about 80% off piste when conditions allow it. I like everything about the volkl blaze but i do some occasional backwards skiing and landings. For me it's not about charging, but more drops, jumps, fun, surfy,... I really like everything about what you are telling about the QST 106 and the revolt 104. Since I'm looking to get into touring I was thinking on putting a Kingpin or shift on it, just to start somewhere, or just alpine bindings i can take from my visions. Any thoughts about this?
I'd stick to the alpine side of the spectrum just for safety's sake. If you decide to get into touring, you'll probably want to spend some more time and money. I like the QST 106 a whole lot for this application--I'd go that route! SE
Love the reviews guys. Glad you enjoyed the Blade Optic 104 :)
Thanks!
We're appreciative of the creativity and approach of all of Line's skis. If you couldn't tell, though, the Sakana holds a special place in our hearts as well.
SE
Love this brand acknowledgement of what the guys are doing.
Bob, Jeff, first thing’s first> I felt so compelled to give feedback.
The time and effort you and the team spend on testing, composing the wall, and providing your perspective on each product you put up there is not an easy task. You make it look effortless and is nothing short of impeccable! I find the video segments inserted for each and every ski in action while you’re explaining the ski is extremely value added.
I spend hours on end watching and re-watching your reviews. The only thing I hate about your reviews is it results in me buying yet another set of skis!😉
Outstanding job to Jeff, Bob, and the rest of the Skiessentials team for setting the bar in the industry! 👏👏 Having said that, will you be doing the next width category, maybe a 110-120?
Thanks so much!
That's like the nicest comment we've ever gotten, and we will not look down on you for buying more skis--that's part of the fun! We'll be moving to the mid-90's for the next video, mainly based on what we have in stock at the moment, but we have a 110 and then a Powder ski video on the list as well. If you have any specific questions about a wider ski, please let us know!
SE/Bob
I will second the "go your own way" recommendation. Been trying to find a particular ski to fill my quiver and have noticed in demoing skis it doesn't really matter what the stats are, they can't really express its character until u ski them. And skis I enjoy are not what I thought I would on paper.
Funny how that works!
As always you guys crush these reviews. Very thankful for them. I look forward to this "review season" every year. :)
Thanks, Alan! It's always a good time of year for us too.
SE
Fascinating and hugely helpful comparison and review! Appreciate all the time you guys are putting into these. Helps people like me who don't have the mountain around the corner and are left doing desktop research a lot! Question I was hoping you could help with: I was put on a pair of Atomic Bent 100s in the Swiss Alps last week and was blown away by how manoeuvrable and versatile they were. Was a joy skiing them. Led me to do some research with the help of your videos for the purpose of buying a new pair of skis. Looking for width of 100-105, something versatile across the mountain and was hoping to keep the weight down (as I suspect one of the reasons I had such a good time on the Bents is its lightness). I ended up shortlisting the following 4: Atomic Bent 100 @ 188cm / Blizzard Hustle 10 @ 188cm / Nordica Enforcer Free 104 @ 186cm / Nordica Enforcer Unlimited 104 @186cm.
(I'm 190cm tall.)
Think these are all great skis (though the Bents are noticeably absent from most "best skis reviews") but any tips or insights as I zero in on the final choice would be appreciated. Thanks!
If you had a great time on the Bent, it's tough to talk you out of it. I'd say the Enforcer Free could get crossed off, especially if you're looking to keep the weight down and the maneuverability up. The Unlimited is awesome because it employs the same shape as the 104 Free but with more pop and less mass. Hustle has some bounce and grip to it as well, but I don't find it quite as engaging as the Unlimited. I'd narrow focus to Bent and Unlimited, with the Nordica being the better floater and carver of the two while Bent is more playful.
@SkiEssentials Massively appreciate you taking the time to answer mine and others' questions! Best online ski advice, by far! 104 Unlimited in the bag, or should I say, quiver!
Quote of the Year: “Bouncy and poppy - like Tigger” hahahaha…well said.
Lol I put a pivot on a backland 107 a few years ago and people gave me shit for it. Really a great ski for powder and off piste here in Colorado. I do find it is a bit limited on really firm stuff, but if the snow is soft it will carve for days. It’s really fun to have a ski that’s light on your feet. It’s a fun experience. People who have never skied a backland give it a hard time, but anyone I I’ve met who has skied them knows how good they are. Also, my local mom and pop tuning and rental shop has decided to pick up a bunch of liberty origins as rental skis after I brought them in and the owner asked what I thought of them. She did a hand flex and gave it the seal of approval.
We say it again and again: 1) There is no wrong way to go about this. Backland 107 with Pivot makes perfect sense to me, and I'm glad you had fun on it as well, and 2) We've seen some very high-level skiing done on the 107. If you find the limit of the ski, you are above a collegiate-racer level skier.
Glad you enjoy the Backland!
SE
Hi Folks!
Seeking for an advice :)
I am a more advanced skier and looking for a new pair of all mountain ski.Till now I rode on wayback88 but I feel I need something more powerfull, strong and all around.
What I am looking for is when you will go somewhere in the alps, that you can go through in all conditions in one day, startin in a powder, soft snow, crud, crust icy and in the end slush.
also descending from some steep culuars (45degrees and more)
It will be 90% free touring and rest resort.
I am ok to have 4kg pair of ski and I am 176 cm tall
My Research include this skis :
DPS koala 103
Ranger 102
Black crows justis
black crows artis
Blizard hustle 10 (I think no - has thiner edges then rest )
Rossignol sender 104
Many thanks in advance !
Hello! I like the idea of the Ranger 102 or Atris. I know a lot of people who have put tech bindings on those skis and used them for the application you're describing. The Koala 103 feels a bit clunky in tight terrain, and the Justis is heavy, so might wear you out a little while touring. Sender could work too, but something about the personality of the Ranger and Atris make them feel like great choices. Hope that helps!
Fantastic review guys, as usual! "Do whatever you want - it's America!" (c). Well Done!
Thanks! New 2024 comparisons starting soon!
I think someone at Line skis was assigned to create new skis and that person just thought I’m going to copy the Blizzard Rustler and use our Blade metal cut out and it will work and because the Rustler so popular it just works as an alternative sales at the ski shop. Everyone at Line skis pop a bottle and celebrate 😊
There's more differences than that, but we couldn't help notice the similarities for sure. The thickness of the sidewalls and then the thinness of the tips and tails make for a much more playful ski experience.
Love Those reviews, really Good Work. Keep going!
Will do, thanks!
in the PNW the enforcer 104 free has been my daily driver for the past 2 seasons. I like the weight of the ski in the heavier snow. In between powder days this ski does it all for me. ( skiing inbounds at the resort )
That seems to be a sweet spot for that ski for sure.
I demoed these today in wet heavy mank and they were awesome!
Nice David. They are my daily ski at Steven's Pass. I get a lot of those wet days and the ski just feels super solid.
@@chazbickel4518 me too at Snoqualmie/Alpental
Thank you Guys so much!
Our pleasure!
If you guys had to grab one of these skis for your daily driver out west what would you go for?
Love these! Thanks!
Thanks Adam!
Gents, excellent reviews. Cracking up at the Olukai hat on Bob. Sets the tone for the relaxed nature you guys always give off. I am going head first (pun intended) into backcountry this year and went with a really light setup so I'll let you know as a non backcountry skier how stable I feel on tech bindings. Keep the reviews coming. And, if you guys have time for reviewing tech bindings with regards to durability/reliability as well as skiability (vs mainly for uphill), I would appreciate your input/recommendations. Thx
HI Cam!
Thanks for the feedback, and for uphill skiing and longer tours, light weight is the way to go. We've found that with tech/tour gear, there are as many opinions as skiers out there--very little agreement, it seems, but very strong feelings about certain gear. If you posed this question to a more popular A/T thread, you'll likely be pretty overwhelmed with the tech talk. We have to spend most of our time on the majority of stuff we sell, so we don't often have the resources to dive deeply into the A/T side of the spectrum. Personally, I've had plenty of success on my Marker Alpinist 12's, but if you google a review on those, you're going to see a storm of criticism versus a few happy skiers. Sorry I can't be of more help in this endeavor!
SE
@@SkiEssentials Very true about the opinions. As you probably figured out by now I do a lot of research before making a decision sometimes and that is why I find you guys sooooo helpful. Appreciate the candid feedback as always. I'll give you my OPINION of my setup once I've logged some serious hours. BTW, I went Atomic Backland 100s and Salomon MTN Pure's for my uphill setup. You guys sold me on the Atomic Backland's and I have researched the heck out of tech bindings and landed on Salomon due to reliability/durability/weight and trusted brand. Hoping I made a good decision. Guess we'll find out... Pray for snow!
@@cams3425 Good luck and have fun!
@@SkiEssentials Been out on the new Atomic Backland 100s with the Salomon MTN Pure's a few times now and honestly love the weight saving going uphill vs my QST106s and Shifts. Was seriously worried about pushing the MTN Pure bindings, but so far so good. Also, super easy to transition from uphill to down. Always a big plus....Seriously guys, the reviews help me make decisions on gear so very appreciative.
Skied the revolt 104s here in Oz for 20days + took a little getting used to as started on hardpack but loved it after a few days in on a mix of snow conditions. Surfy as you say in pow and stiff enough to charge pretty quickly. Only got nervous on 🧊 pack. 172s for a 63kg 172 male worked find
Moments are all that is needed
There is the tiny problem with their minimum speed limit tho
They do have a very nice-looking and comprehensive lineup! We are not currently a dealer so we don't put as much focus on their product versus what we sell. Maybe this is the year!
Maybe not the best comparison, but if you had to choose between either the Armada Declivity 102 or QST 106 for a daily driver in Colorado, which one would you go with? Looking for something for the whole mountain. Bonus points to the ski that can grow with me as I work on my skills.
Really just a matter of your skiing style and preferences. Declivity 102 will feel a little stronger, both at speed in any terrain and when carving turns on groomers. QST 106, on the other hand, is more playful, has better float in soft snow, etc. I would say it kind of comes down to how fast you like to ski and your terrain preferences. If you're always looking to get off trail into softer snow, go QST. If you're looking for more of a mix of that and some groomer performance, go Declivity. Hope that helps!
Your ski comparisons are an orgy of ski reviews, A buffet of ski info. I'm stuffed.
You win the coveted "analogy of the day!"
Hiii, i'm considering the ranger 96 or the ranger 102, the head kore 105, or the nordica enforcer 104 free. Which one do I choose. I'm 180cm and 75kg (165,3 pounds) and consider myself as an advanced skier. Mostly skiing in Europe. I'm used to head oblivion 90 but is looking for something wider and capable of cutting through yet still playful and fun. I love to ride all over the mountain but is looking for a wider one ski quiver. Thanks:)
I like the sounds of the narrower skis for your application. I'd say Ranger 96 or the Kore 99. Of those, the Kore is more precise and stiff when it comes to firm snow and the Ranger is more playful and freeride-oriented for softer and deeper snow. Have fun!
SE
Hello Ive been considering for such a long time between:
- Nordica Unleashed 108
- K2 Mindbender 108ti
- Dynaster M Free 108
- Black Crows Atris
I’m 6’1 / 80kg / Advanced intermediate skier.
I was looking for a maneuverable and playful ski on powder and that also provided a good level of stability and handled well at high speeds. I wanted something that I could take in the tight trees and moguls that could also charge down an open bowl with minimal chatter.
Cheers guys
I think you're looking at the K2. The M-Free and Atris are on the surfier side, and the Unleashed may be more of a twin tip than what you're looking for. I think the K2 has a nice blend of these attributes, and the new version is considerably better in all phases than the outgoing 108. Have fun!
SE
You mentioned that the Sender 106 is a bit too wide for groomers but didn't say the same for the Sender 104; they're actually the same width underfoot with the 104 having wider tips/tails. I wonder how much a name affects the perception of a ski... (You could have made that comment for everything on the wall, I'm probably reading too much into it)
No, I hear you, and the naming of the skis is confusing, since the 180 in the 106 is 104, but the 187 and 194 are 106. The Sender 104, in the shorter lengths and corresponding shorter radii, is actually a fantastic carver, and the flat tail with the camber underfoot put them in the upper echelon of carving skis in this category. Do any of these skis carve as well as a Volkl Deacon 76 Master or Blizzard HRC? Absolutely not, but relative to the category, the Rossignol's have earned high praise for sure.
High-level comparison: Nordica Enforcer 104 Free vs Black Crows Atris?
Have not been on the Atris, but the 104 Free is a blast. Borrowed a friends pair and loved them. They turn well on piste, are great in trees and midwest pow.
Interested in this breakdown too. Love my enforcer 100’s but looking for something a little more playful in the trees and bumps.
Enforcer is a better turner and charger. Atris, more so now than before, is a playful and smeary ski in the fresh that does fine on the groomers, but is still no Enforcer 104 Free. I'd say the Atris is more like the Enforcer 104 Unlimited in softer snow and slarvy nature.
First like... what did I win? Fall is in the air at Stowe. I like the Ripsticks for all around enjoyable skiing at the resort. They're not overly demanding, but they can still do it all.
Thanks, Jon! That Ripstick line is quite impressive. While you don't win anything specifically, we do appreciate your expedience!
How does Black crows atris compare to Nordica enforcer free 104 unlimited. What would you recommend between 50/50 tight trees (Swedish forrests) and big mountain (alps) objectives?
I think the Unlimited 104 is a fantastic choice for trees and tight turns. The Atris is more lively than ever before, but it's still on the burly side. I think you get a lot more agility and maneuverability from the Unlimited.
Had last model Atris.. ordered an RMU YLE 110. I’m leaning hard towards the new atris!!
New Atris is quite a bit more energetic than the older version. I really like that ski, and I think the new model differentiates itself from skis like Anima within BC's lineup. Now it's a clearer choice for a mid-100's freeride ski.
I wish they'd have put the Volkl Mantra 102 next to the Blaze 106.....I'm torn as to which I should use in my 2 ski quiver.
What's your other ski? The Mantra 102 and Blaze 106 are about as dissimilar as it gets in terms of power, weight, and performance. The 102 is a high-octane carver that powers through anything and everything while the Blaze 106 is a dancer that floats simply above the softer snows of the mountain.
My hard snow ski is the Kendo 88, and I love it.
Currently I’m looking for an all mountain wide ski s for the occasional powder day out west. Currently have the Head Kore 105 and love it, but was thinking I’d get something a little more crud-busting and the Kore doesn’t handle chop too well.
So I’m looking at the Volkls, the Head Kore again, the Solomon QST 106, or the K2 Mindbender.
Only have so many days and wa want to narrow the number of demos
Thx!
Really interesting comment from Bob on the 104 Unlimited vs. the Bent 100. I ski a Bent 100 and have been progressing my skiing to the point where I'd like something a bit stronger on the groomers, but I don't want to give up the maneuverability in trees, and soft snow / bumps. Would the 104 Unlimited provide that? Have you moved away from the Bent 100 to the 104 Unlimited yourself?
I have moved away from the Bent 100 to the 104, and it happened last spring. There were a few days in the woods with soft snow, and I went back and forth. In the trees, and only in the trees, the performance is kind of a wash. All other zones, I prefer the energy and shape of the 104--it's a much better and cleaner turner than the Bent. This is no insult to the Bent, rather a glowing review of the 104.
@@SkiEssentials Thanks a ton for the detailed feedback. I've been on the 104 once and really liked it in soft snow. I'll give it another go now that we're in a bit of a dry spell in CA. I tried the Atris in UT this past weekend and really liked it after about a day and a half. Skied the last day on the Bent 100 and felt like getting back into comfy jeans but I missed the edge grip and energy that the Atris provided. Looking forward to a couple days on the 104 Unlimited and will make a call. Thanks again!
what length were you guys skiing in that QST 106? I live in Utah and own the Blanks in 186, but I'm seriously considering replacing it with that 106. Lighter, a little easier to ski, and doubt I'd miss the width in all but the deepest days out here. 6'2" 185lbs advanced, but I'm still leaning towards the 181cm for the fun factor. Thoughts?
Bob (me) was on the 189 and Jeff the 181. I've skied the 181 and found it to be fine, but for Utah and deeper snow, I'd go longer. I'm 6/2 225, so while we share a height, I have about 45 pounds on you. I don't think being lighter would make me want to alter my size down to the 181--if you're on the 186 Blank, I'd say the 189 106 is more similar. If you're looking for more similar, get the 189, but for more playfulness and maneuverability, 181 will not be too short--I skied it in about 1.5 feet of snow here in VT and did just fine. Have fun!
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@@SkiEssentials very much appreciate the response!
@@lorenroot7667 why are you tryin to switch to 106? Isnt blanks better on pow?
Thanks for the thorough review.... Just coming off the Kore 105 and wanted to change it up. I'm a 50 year old ex racer and still love to charge and jib so looking for something to do it all in the BC mountains. Settled on the QST 106 and looking forward to next season to try them.... thanks! PS. I threw on the Shifts just for those odd day side country turns.... 95% resort still.
Nice! Have fun!
Thank you for another great review guys. You are my go-to channel for ski info…
I have a question:
I just sold my 2020 Nordica Enforcer Free 110 in 191 cm. It was a bit too heavy and maybe too much ski for me, so Im looking for a new daily driver.
I’m late 40’ies and have been skiing for 1000 years. Not an expert but maybe an anvanced skier. 187 cm and 85 kg. I dont ski park or butter etc. but I like a pretty centered stance I ski resort and offpiste. Mostly in The Alps.
I would like something that can go fast but also slow. I have been considering to mount a Salomon Shift or Dynafit Rotation binding for lightness and the ocational uphill struggle.
I have been looking at the Nordica Enforcer Unlimited 104 and the Faction Mana 3.
I would appreciate any wise words from you guys :)
Hello! If you're thinking about slapping an AT binding on them, I would go with the Enforcer 104 Unlimited over the Mana. Just feels a little lighter, so more efficient for the uphills, and doesn't sacrifice too much downhill performance. Also, considering you've been skiing the 110, you're going to adapt to the 104 Unlimited really quickly as the shapes are basically identical. You'll appreciate the lighter feel, I think. Hope that helps! Not too much in the lighter-weight twin tip world. At least not that can accept a more centered mount point.
I am immediately drawn to that Pagoda 106. Premium construction (one of the few manufacturers who know what they are doing with carbon), not a ton of splay, stiff, relatively long radius and PURPLE! What's not to like?
Totally, Tony--that quality is definitely noticeable in the way that they make the 106 such a strong and powerful carver. It's pretty impressive what they can do with a blend of three different woods in the laminate and the dual carbon layers. Very sophisticated stuff, and it comes through in performance as well.
Price :/
@@Tirppa Indeed
Dynafit for better priced weight carbon performance.
Our shop tried to carry DPS but didn't takeoff. Like selling Ferrari's in South Dakota.
What are the best all mountain ski at arount 100mm width that ca still perform well on firm snow ? I've heard the bent 100 has its limits i was wondering if there was an all mountain/freeride skis that is playful and that can still perform well on firm snow groomers
If you're looking for a ski like the Bent but carves better, I'd check out the Salomon QST 98, Nordica Unleashed 98, or the Armada Declivity 102. Lots of great skis here!
Which ski blends the best on-piste and off-piste performance? I have a pair of Blaze 106 with Kingpins that I absolutely love. Looking for something for Whistler resort skiing. Wondering if something between 95-100 or 100-105 is the better option... Cheers!
I'd say the Enforcer 104 Free and Sender 104Ti are right up there with the best of them that can carve really well on-trail but still have great acumen when it comes to flotation, crud, and tree skiing. Chances are, with that set of parameters, either of these skis will be fantastic.
You guys have done the 88-92 width in the 90 comparison and 102-107 in this 100 comparison. Can we expect a mid-90s comparison soon? Seems like 94-96 is a big sweet spot for the industry today.
Sure is! Hopefully filming it this week!
Thoughts on Mana 2 183cm versus Line Blade Optic 104 185cm for freeride capability and also carving capability? Would be great to hear your thoughts
The Mana lies more on the freestyle side of the spectrum than the Blade Optic's freeride heritage. In that realm, the Mana is a much better park ski that happens to do fine on-trail, while the Blade Optic is a charging freeride ski that happens to have playful tips and tails for when the ski needs to be floaty or fun.
Why not K2 Mindbender 106Ti here? It is funny because I think it is great freeride ski and not really powder ski how you match it. This is a power tank not a surfer. Powder is K2 116C imo
The 108Ti fell into the narrow side of our powder category. The 116 is on the other side of the wall.
Hi guys, can you please let me know how does the bc atris compares with the Ripstick 106?
I think a good place to start is there's more freestyle influence in the Atris shape. More rise in the tail, much closer to a twin tip. That gives it some switch skiing capabilities that the Ripstick doesn't have. Elan has more of a directional shape, which IMO helps it feels more responsive as a directional ski, but not as surfy or as balanced as the Atris. Aside from that, the Ripstick is a little stiffer, which enhances that "more-responsive" feel even further. A little more stable at speed too, although not as playful as the Atris overall. Hope that helps!
Hello! great comparison video. Could you please tell me the difference between the Salomon QST106 and the Atomic Backland 107? How would these skis feel compared one to the other. Thanks!!!
Hello! Weight's going to be the biggest different between those skis. QST 106 is quite a bit heavier. That's giving you a lot more stability at speed and a quieter, smoother feel. Less likely to get deflected or in other words, would track better through choppy snow. Backland is obviously better for someone who's touring a lot because it's so much lighter, but in a resort application, you're definitely sacrificing some stability and vibration damping. It's a strong ski considering its weight, but certainly more likely to get deflected and just not as confidence-inspiring at speed.
Thank you for making these videos they are a huge help! I'm interested in your thoughts on how the "new type" skis you mentioned compare vs the metal skis. Specifically looking at the QST vs the Enforcer 104 free. Weight and shape seem pretty similar.
Hi Chris!
It's interesting what they're doing these days, and a lot of it comes down to preference. I'm 6/2 225 and I prefer the carbon-powered skis like Head Kore, Enforcer Unlimited, and Scott Mission to the Enforcer Free, Bonafide, etc. I like the energy of the carbon over the dampness of the metal. It seems that you have to get the metallic skis up to a certain speed in order to access the majority of the performance while the carbon laminates can do more at a wider range of speeds. Again, this comes down to more preference than a black/white performance character, although we still see race skis and other high-end skis mainly using metal in order to generate power. In terms of the QST vs. Enforcer, the QST's use of carbon and flax make the ski snappy and poppy while the metal of the Enforcer keep it on the duller side, at least in terms of feeling on the feet. The QST is able to use a thicker poplar wood core while the Enforcer is a bit thinner profile, using the two sheets of metal to gain the sturdiness. If you're not looking for a super-powerful ski, like most skiers, but still want a high-end of performance, I think that there's a lot of room for the carbon-powered skis and non-metal laminates out there. Hope that helps!
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@@SkiEssentials THANK YOU!
Hello guys
how would you compare the qst 106 and the black crows atris?
thanks in advance :)
Personally, I found the QST to be a more engaging ski from a turning/carving perspective, and while that's not really the overall intent of these skis, I do find it to be a nice benefit. In soft snow, and from a flotation perspective, the Atris is more of a point-and-shoot option while the Salomon does prefer to be in more of a turn most of the time. They feel very similar from a dampness and energy standpoint, but if you're a more aggressive skier who likes making less turns, the Atris is a more suitable option.
Need help with a 1 ski quiver for pnw skiing , alwaysblooking more fun than hard charging , but hit crud and hard pack while looking for soft. Adv/int. Rustler 10 or blade optic (or declivity 102)? 5'7 165, 172?
The Rustler is a no-brainer. Great ski and very intuitive. Nothing wrong with the others, but the Rustler is just automatic. I'd say 165 in that ski.
J skis all day!
Love the reviews, you guys do a great job! I have a pair of Jskis Slackers (110mm underfoot /188cm long)... and looking for something around 97-104mm to pair with it. I ski about 12 days a year in the Rockies and spend most of my time off-piste in trees and moguls. Really want something nimble and maybe a bit shorter (180-185) as a second ski (200lb / 6'2" - expert); the bent chetlers seem like maybe a good option (bob seems to enjoy). Do you have any clear recommendation or thoughts?
really torn between the Chetler and the Ranger 102 after more research. Any thoughts would be appreciated?
There's a good deal of grip difference between the Bent 100 and the Ranger 102. I think if you want anything remotely close to a clean carved turn on the groomers, the Ranger has to be the front runner. If playfulness, trees, bumps, and powder are top priority, and you can deal with less carving performance, I'd go with the Bent.
Hi, I'm looking for a opinion between unlimited 104 and backland 107 , looking for 50/50 one ski quiver which is light , how the skis feel mostly offpist, trrees, steep skiing .
I like the Backland for wider spaces and open skiing, but I love the Unlimited for trees and tighter zones. The Unlimited is a better turner/carver than the Backland, and feels more like an alpine ski at a lighter weight whereas the Backland feels like a touring ski that can also handle resort access. have fun!
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Hi, thanks for the great video. I'm currently debating between the Hustle 10 and QST 106. I'm 183cm, 153 lb and gonna be in Revelstoke this season, primarily off piste but also looking for some on piste ability. Prefer shorter turns with a more playful style. Also if I was going to go with the Hustle 10 would you recommend 172 or 180 cm? Thanks again
Hey Zach! Any touring in this situation? If not, I'd say go QST. If you are doing some touring, the Hustle is noticeably lighter, so certainly worth considering. QST also works great for short turns and a playful skiing style. It's so agile and fun, which is especially impressive considering its stability. If you do decide to go Hustle, which is certainly a good ski, just doesn't quite match the QST in a resort application, I would go 180.
@@SkiEssentials thanks so much for the advice and yeh no touring. And if looking at the QST do you thnk a 173 would be suitable given my total height is around 183 as I said and me eyes are around 172? Cheers
@@zachgriggs5207 173 would be too short. Think about recovery if you end up in the back seat. This is the primary reason to consider length closer to your height. Have you bought the ski yet?
Hey guys love the show! I'm a 22 year old guy from switzerland and in need of a freeride touring ski. I don't know if I should go for the atomic backland 107 or 100. It should be an everyday touring ski with favoured downhill capabilities and I'm a playful skier that likes to slash some turns in deep powder but also let it go and just rip. Is 107 under foot too wide and heavy for everyday touring in switzerland and am I going to suffer on the uphill and when the snow conditions aren't that great or is the difference to the 100 not that big, but the 100 would certainly be lighter and more versatile but also has less rocker? What do you think?
Thanks, Philipp!
You're giving up some soft snow performance for sure if you go to the 100 vs. the 107. The weight isn't a huge difference, but if you're looking for an everyday touring ski, my guess is that you'll be happier overall on the 100 due to the versatility. Unless you're looking to be in fresh snow all the time, I think the 100 makes more sense. Have fun!
SE
Do you think there will be an updated version of the Nordica 104 Free for 2024? It's stayed the same for years now, still a great ski just was wondering if there are signs of an update next year.
We're guessing there will be some type of change--perhaps not wholesale. We usually get info trickling in about now, with more solid answers around mid-December.
I wish I could try all of these skis back to back!
It's amazing how much difference there is in such a short span of widths!
When are you doing the women's version of this comparison?
We're working on it right now! We had to push it back a little through the busy holiday sales period, and it will likely be the last 2023 comparison of the season, but we'll get to it soon!
I have the Pagoda 94 and 106 and I feel the same way as you Jeff, I prefer the 106 for carving. I mentioned this when I was at a DPS test day and I believe they said it was to do with torsional stiffness (don't quote me, I could be wrong)
More mass and a longer effective edge in that 106 as well. I really enjoyed them both.
Have the enforcer 94s in a 172- im 5 7 168. Love the enforcers but think they are a little heavy and looking for a lighter, more playful ski with a different feel. Love to go off trail but still rip turns. Love the trees. Looking for something to complement that that is going to be good on a powder day- would you recommend the enforcer unlimited 104 or the bent chetler 100 and in what size? Tried the bent chetler 100s in a 164 and loved those.
It's hard to argue against what you enjoyed! Bent 100 is an awesome ski. The Unlimited is a bit better of a carving ski on groomed terrain, but the Bent is more playful in the trees. I'd get what you liked!
Hi,
Thank you for the awesome review!
I'm currently looking at the Blizzard Hustle, Nordica enforcer free & unlimited, QST and Elan Ripstick Blue & Black.
I will be using it 40% onpist / 40% offpist in the resort and 20% touring with a Salomon Shift binding. On powder days I tried to be in the powder as much as possible.
I ski quite aggressively so a good combination between stability & playfulness is important.
I currently tend to go for the Elan Black edition but what would your recommendation be?
Hi Sam!
I think you're in a good spot with that, but I'd put in a solid vote for the Enforcer Unlimited due to the lighter weight for touring, but still a great shape and build for all-mountain skiing. They're awesome in the powder, and very playful.
Hey guys! Been watching a lot of your vids lately and they have been super helpful! I’m looking to grab new skis this off-season to replace my 2016 soul 7s. Im looking for something more stable but still light and energetic. I’m 5,11, 170, expert skier but do like softer and more poppy skies. I demoed the QST 106 and enforcer 104 free and found the QST not very agile and the enforcer free too heavy but fun. I’m leaning towards the enforcer free unlimited or hustle 10, I will be skiing on resort, primarily in British Columbia. In your review you mention how similar they are but wondering which you think would be a better ski for a more advanced skier that primarily does trees and bumps but still wants on piste stability. Thanks in advance!
I'm in the exact same position, coming from a pair of soul 7s that I feel are a bit unstable in choppy conditions. A bit taller and skinnier than you, I've been looking at the black crow atris a bit. As you say, also looking for a light, fun and poppy ski but with a bit more stability
@@jb7595 I ended up getting a pair of hustle 10s yesterday. Won’t have a chance to use them till next season but fingers crossed I like them 🤞
I like the round turning nature of the Enforcer Unlimited. While a bit wide for tighter bumps, it's pretty good for wider-spaced and softer moguls. That said, the on-trail capabilities of the ski are more sophisticated than those of the Hustle.
Hello, i really like your reviews! What ski would you guys recommend to someone trying to get more into freetylish skiing on thé slopes? I consider myself a decent skier. And want to start learning switch. 180's etc. I was considering thé koala 103 , blade optic of thé Nordica enforcers. Would love to get some advice
I think given your stats and application, the Optic makes a good amount of sense. Koala is a bit heavy and Enforcer is on the directional side. The Optic is a great blend of on-piste prowess and freestyle acumen.
How would you recommend mounting binding on free 104 unlimited for maximum maneuverability in tight forrest?
Not more than +2 from the line
Hi guys, how would you compare volkl revolt 104 and k2 rekoner 102?
The Revolt feels quite a bit more substantial than the Reckoner, mostly due to the thickness of the core profile. The K2 is quite thin with the wood, relying on those carbon stringers to do a lot of the lifting while the Revolt is more blocky in style and substance. If you're on the aggressive side of the spectrum, the Revolt will hold up better while the Reckoner tends to bend quite a bit.
Hi team, love the work you are doing, excellent stuff.
Please help as I just cannot make my mind up and apologies if its a bit long but I have watched too much footage haha...
I mostly ski in Greece, we have a few resorts and lately its been dumping on strong years.
180cm - 82kg - aggressive charging all over the mountain in and out of bounds and hitting cliffs / sidehits and powder & trees, but also lapping icy beat up "blacks" with some atrocious snow / ice and sometimes rocks to avoid.
No ultra deep pow and not much park in Greece
Will be purchasing either:
volkl revolt 104 - 180cm (made in china or germany?)
atomic bent 100 - 180cm (maybe the 188cm adds some more strength to it?)
nordica enforcer 104 - (179 or 186cm?)
Although the revolt and bent sound like the "funner" and more "playful" options for our generally small resorts, the enforcer sounds like it will give the edge on the days of bad snow quality, which is often. Price is also somewhat of an issue here as I can find the bent 200 euros cheaper than the nordica enforcer. All will be mounted with a look pivot 15. Looking for a one ski quiver, durability is also somewhat of a concern.
Thanks anyways for the solid content, and if you have some time I would appreciate to hear your thoughts !
Hello! I feel like you're on the right track here. You're right in thinking that the Revolt and Bent are the "funner" and "more playful" options, but I'm not convinced those are better choices for you than the Enforcer 104. Skiing fast through chopped up snow, landing cliffs, and even powder performance are best from the Enforcer 104, IMO. Best on ice too.
That said, you're right that there's something to be said about the price difference between it and the Bent 100, and I do think the Bent 100 could accomplish what you're looking for. Just don't expect seemingly endless stability like you'll get with the Enforcer.
I personally think you can rule out the Revolt. It just doesn't sound like the right ski for you and I think the Bent actually offers a touch more stability with its higher camber height. Someone could argue the opposite, and I'd listen, but that's how I feel when I ski them.
So... My recommendation would be Enforcer 104 Free, 186. I own that ski personally and it sounds like you and I ski in a relatively similar fashion. Other skis are getting closer, but it's still one of the best for aggressive skiing in that style. My second choice would be Bent 100. 188 could be cool if you're trying to recoup some lost power from the Enforcer.
Hope that helps!!
@@SkiEssentials Sorry for the late reply team, much appreciate you taking the time to get back to me! Our season delayed quite a lot compared to last year and so I finally ordered the enforcer 104 free 186 cm, arriving Wednesday 1st feb and leaving the next day for a long weekend in the mountains! Im very very curious to see how they will perform, truly ive only seen / heard the best so far. Letting you know my feedback once back from the hill. Take care
Great review!
Would've loved to see the ZAG Slap 104 featured as well even though they aren't that available in NA. Fun looking ski... :)
We'll look into it!
They're not too hard to find up here in Canada. I've tried the 104, can confirm it's a fun ski!
@@src248 Curious to know what size you tried them in and how tall you are?
I ordered the 170cm and am 170cm tall as well, I'm afraid they might be slightly too short. What was your feeling when skiing them? Thanks buddy
@@romainhj Similarly tried the 188 and am 188cm tall. I did find them a little short but for context I'm on the heavy side, advanced/expert, and used to skiing a 194. Depending on your preferences, the 170 might be right for you
@@src248 Alright sweet thanks for your answer !
Hi! How is the enforcer 104 compared to the head kore 105 in plafulness and over all performance would you say? Great video!
I'd say the Enforcer is more playful mainly because the carbon of the Kore makes it pretty darn stiff. For more of a freeride influence, I'd lean to the Enforcer. Overall, most skiers tend to gravitate to the shape and build of the Enforcer versus the Kore 105.
What would be better for a mountain like Snowbird? Rustler 10 or the Blade optic 104? Or ? Looking for best all mountain ski for snowbird and Alta. I like to ski switch small jumps groomers, crud, trees. Big powder runs, Small powder stash of groomers. Just the best all around but can do good when snowbird gets 2 ft of powder in one storm. Right now I have the Rustler 9. Great Video
If you like the overall character of the Rustler 9, the 10 isn't a big jump. If you're looking for something a bit more consistent from tip to tail, the metal laminate of the Blade Optic certainly provides that. I think the shape and profile of the Line makes it a smoother floater than the Rustler, but that's more of a compliment to the Blade rather than a slight to the Rustler.
Excellent video as always guys..
In your opinion comparing the Enforcer 104 Unlimited to the Salomon QST 106 which shines more off-piste in soft snow? I ski in Europe mostly off piste and its a toss up between these two.
Flotation-wise, I think you're looking at a draw, but the Salomon is just more damp and powerful while the 104 Unlimited is driftier, smearier, and more playful. Since on-piste skiing is likely to factor in on a daily basis, I do think the more stable Salomon makes a bit more sense.
Can you please review the DPS Foundation 106 C2 skis soon? It's really hard to find any reviews on them. Love your videos, thanks!
We don't really dabble in the Foundation anymore with DPS. Pagoda and Tour seem to be the way moving forward with that company. Overall, the Foundation is slightly heavier and not as energetic as the carbon-powered versions of the same ski.
What'd you guys think of the Ranger 102s?
Awesome skis. I (Jeff) have grown particularly fond of them. We talked about them in our 100 mm comparison as it felt like the ski was a better fit for that range. Very fun, very well-rounded. Not the strongest ski in the world, not the lightest, nor with the most rocker, but an excellent mix of performance characteristics for a wider all-mountain/narrower freeride ski.
Would you say the kore 105 and blaze 106 are fairly similar in terms of directional skis that handle tight technical terrain well?
I would, but I'd add that I feel a lot more confident on the Kore in those situations, while in less techy terrain and in deeper snow, the Blaze is a better floater. But if I were looking for something that provides better feedback and grip in addition to being decent in the fresh, I'd lean to the Kore.
I really wanted to love the Blizzard Rustler 10 when I demoed it 2 years ago, but the 172 length felt too short. My sweet spot typically is a 175 length in an all mountain ski. I worried that a 180 Rustler 10 would be too long and was not available to demo at that time. I'm 5'8 160 lbs. (68 year old expert) Thoughts...??? Recommendations?
I'd hesitate to recommend the 180 for you unless you know you like longer skis.
Any reason the faction dancer 3 isn’t in this video?
We did not have it to show at this time. It'd fit great in the lighter side and more energetic portion of the skis.
Any recommendations for the variable nz conditions particular to the club fields?
I think the Rustler 10 or Blade Optic 104 do a great job of mixing attributes that allows them to be strong and stable on variable conditions while remaining predictable and smooth. Sender 104 Ti as well, especially when it comes to directional strength and straight-line speed. Have fun!
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Hi guys, love the reviews as usual! The QST 106 has been my go-to Whistler ski for the past 5 years. The 181cm is starting to feel a bit short for me now that I ski more and more. I am 6’, 175lbs and 45 years old. I ski mostly blacks and double blacks. The 189cm seems too long. Is there another comparable ski that comes in something like a 184 or 185cm? Also curious whether the new 106 skis longer or shorter. I have the blanks for bigger days in the 186cm and love them but wouldn’t want to go any longer. Thank you!
I'd take a square look at the Black Crows Atris in the 184. Have fun!
Excellent video thanks. I'd like your opinion if possible.
I have a choice between;
-Salomon QST 106 2022. Ex rental great condition
-new Elan ripstick 106 2022
Both very similar price. I live in Revelstoke, BC. And am a snowboarder but going to spend this season focusing on skiing. So want a ski I can develop and grow into. So will start on groomers but want to end up in pow, trees and bowls.
Which would you recommend of these two?
Thanks :)
Are you looking at the rental skis for sale at the resort? They've got great prices, I very nearly bought the Blanks :P (keep in mind new bindings cost $200+ if you haven't factored that in)
@@src248 at powder rentals. $549 for QST, but with those sliding heavier demo bindings but will fit any boot sizes. And today only there is an extra $50 off. So would be $499.
Elan I've been offered $539 and they are brand new with new bindings. But not mounted.
The Ripstick is a better groomer ski while the Salomon is a better floater. I'd say the Ripstick, being new and with bindings sounds like a better deal to me, for you.
@@SkiEssentials thanks! That was exactly my conclusion and what I purchased! Can't wait to be shit at skiing haha.
Do you think the rustler 10 or kore 105 Would best complete my current quiver of
Kastle mx 74, dx 85, mpro 90, qst 92, ______? Fyi, the Kore is only 98mm underfoot in my length (163cm) This will be used as West Coast all mountain ski for My yearly vacation. Plus East Coast powder ski. I haven't been on many 100 mm skis. ( I did demo and like the Maverick. Did not care for the BC Justis much, found it Too heavy and stiff to use as my softer snow ski. Really Liked the mfree 99 love my qst 92, just as a reference. )
Advanced Skier. 5'5" 160 lbs. (Pretty strong physically.)Love side hits. Love to go to the trees. But also ski pretty fast on the groomers.
I've narrowed it down to these 2 because of the outstanding deal I can get through employee pricing.
I'd say the Rustler makes a bit more sense--that'll make the soft snow more palatable than the Justis while still keeping the firmer snow performance fully intact. Great skis!
SE
So do you think the reckoner 102 isnt a durable ski?
It is not as durable as Poacher, but for 102 mm twins without metal, I'd say it's about average.
How does the Reckoner 102 compare to the old Faction CT2.0? Thinking mostly in terms of park performance. Thanks!
The Reckoner is considerably lighter and more flexible than the Faction. Some people like the extra weight and stiffness in the park while others prefer the more noodly ski. I think that for a dedicated park ski, the Candide has a bit more to offer, but for playful freeride skiing, the K2 is more adaptive and versatile.
@@SkiEssentials interesting, thanks! I've got new M-Free 108s for my all mountain/powder needs, but my CT2.0s are falling apart now (which I've been using for park) so I'm looking for a park specific ski to replace it that would be a fair bit softer than the M-Frees but not a complete noodle. Maybe the Reckoner would be a bit too soft, but I'm not writing it off just yet! The other option I've been considering is the Armada BDog - do you have any thoughts or other recommendations? Thanks again!
@@333stoner333 ARV 106 or Volkl Revolt 104 are sturdier than the Reckoner--a bit wider, but you could also go ARV 96 as well.
Probably buying a pair of Backland 107s this year. Wan't to replace my Völkl 100eight with something lighter and a bit more playful
That's a great option for sure. Always loved the 100Eight, and the Backland is a bit lighter and slightly easier to swish around on. Have fun!
SE
Can I use the fischer 102 for parks and pipes?
Yes, although I wouldn't consider that a strength of the Ranger 102. It's got enough of a turned-up tail to warrant a freestyle nod, but certainly not the focus. They're on the heavier side for that application. K2 Reckoner 102 or Nordica Unleashed 98 are both fantastic park and pipe skis that handle all-mountain/freeride skiing really well.
What about the Unleashed 108? How does it compare to these?
While we could have put it on the wide side of this list, we felt the width and intent made it fit better at the low end of the powder ski list. More in common with skis like the Dynastar M-Free 108 and Line Vision 108 in terms of being a fun-loving and playful twin tip, with the Unleashed being more on the freestyle side of the spectrum.
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How does the origin 106 compare to the qst 106?
The QST feels like a far more substantial ski than the Origin, which is decidedly more maneuverable and agile. Especially on-trail, the QST is a confident carver, and while the Origin is more playful and freestyle oriented, I think overall the QST is a stout product.
30:40 the revolts are somewhat stiffer than other skis?!? That flexibility seems insane! I literally have wood planks as skis, they are so stiff.
Just feeling strong perhaps?
Gentlemen,
Thank you for the comprehensive and thoughtful review. I am convinced the Salomon QST 106 is the next ski for me.
Two quick questions:
1. Currently one a J Skis Metal (186cm), so 189cm for QST (I'm 6'1, expert level and 180 lbs)?
2. I'm a Marker Jester guy, but they are overkill for me-so I'm thinking Salomon Strive 14 (per your review w/QST)?
Keep up the great work.
Thanks,
Mike
Having tried most bindings including the Strives, they're fine but I'd consider going with the Attack 14 instead. The heel piece is much nicer to use imo and the low/wide platform feels great. Plus they're already proven to be durable and reliable.
Hi Mike!
If you're good with the 186, I'd say the 189 is a fine length--certainly a better option than the 180. For bindings, while we like the Strive 14, the 16 is a considerably better heel piece. Yes, it's overkill, but that's the fun part of bindings (Look Pivot 18's!). And to echo Steven's comments, the Attack is a more proven binding, so that's something to consider, with a metal heel rail and a fairly straightforward build, it's been a pretty darn good binding for a while. But, I do love my Strive 16's as well! Very low and light.
SE
@@SkiEssentials I wasn't aware the 16 uses the STH2 heel, that's good to know! (Also this comment made me to learn that the price for Pivot 15s jumped $40 CAD this season, I'm going to go cry)
@@src248 Still worth it!
Oh I can't wait. I am probably going to make a lot of comments. They should all have "fun" in mind;)
Faction.. I will start off with comparing the Faction.. You mentioned how it was a stiff ski and how it was heavier.. 1900 grams isn't that heavy in my book.. I think there is a difference between stiff skis.. I am hoping that my 2021 DPS Wailer F100 are similar to those Faction in the stiff sense in regards to dampness.. I am curious to see what you are going to say about the DPS Koala and the DPS Pagoda. My guess is that the Koala is stiff but heavier and damper while the Pagoda is stiff and LOT lighter but reactive/responsive. Head Kore is stiff but reactive while the Salomon QST is stiff but damp.
I have to comment on the Enforcers.. I am surprised that I didn't buy a pair yet.. Being in Colorado the weight turn ratio for me does matter.. The days that I can just cruise rule but then there are days that I am forced to turn from people or crud or trees or rocks.. Turns add up.. It gets to the stability or reactionary questions.. It also gets to the floating or tail sticking questions.. Maybe a couple runs don't make a difference but after 20 runs it can make a huge difference.. Those QST 106s x 188 after forcing turns for about 20 runs wore me out and they were great skis.. Maybe I need to work on my surfing or slurfing or whatever word that is;)
Head Kore.. You mentioned the narrower ones being twitchy.. The word I would use is reactionary.. You said that when you bend them then you get shot out.. That is my experience as well.. Is that how the Pagodas are?
DPS.. That C2 shape probably makes it feel like my Stockli Stormriders.. Smearing is the word that I heard you say.. Is that the word you would say on skis that you would surf and say dude on? I am pretty sure these aren't those skis.. ha ha.. I am hoping my RP shaping will smear and surf and I can say dude..
QST.. Waterskis.. These are the skis that I broke my arm on.. 106 x 188.. What length were you on? This is probably were I should have learned how to surf, smear, slide.. Why don't you have Kastle on here? Are they not Freeride skis?
Please differentiate the Salomon Blank vs Salomon QST 106. Thanks.
The lazy answer is 6. To dive a bit deeper, the Blank is more heavily rockered and tapered, leading to a shorter overall turn shape. This makes it one of the turnier skis at its level while the new QST 106 has a straighter cut for more directional skiing. The construction is largely the same, it's more the overall width, taper shape, and rocker profile that add to the floaty and smeary nature of the Blank versus the more powerful and edgy 106.
Of all these skis, which one or two skis could best handle some side/back country terrain and Goat?
I'm putting in a strong vote for the Kore 105 and Hustle 10. Great blends of uphill efficiency and downhill, somewhat rowdy performance.
@@SkiEssentials Whoa! Did not expect that. I'm gonna revisit both. I've been leaning towards Nordica Enforcer 104, Solomon QST 106 or Elan Ripstick 104 Black edition
@@philipgardiner2003 Nothing wrong with those, but I went with a few lighter options--we could compromise on Enforcer 104 Unlimited, too!
@@SkiEssentials Interesting. I watched your review of the Unlimted model last night. Seems like it "edges" out the others by a slight margin for what I'm looking to do. Boots: Lange XT3 Free, Bindings: Solomon Shift.
this videos are great, will there be a mid 110 mm freeride ski comparison?
It's on the list! Likely a few more weeks to go...
Will you be doing a “ski comparison” video that includes the Line Vision 108?
100-110 touring ski video perhaps?
Hi Ryan!
It's on the list for the 110 video. Great skis!
SE
@@SkiEssentials awesome!
Can’t wait!
NEXT GUYS IS THE MID RANGE 90’S MM SKIS. FROM 90MM TO 99MM . THESE ARE THE MAIN WIDTH OF SALES FOR 95% OF ALL SKI MANUFACTURERS. THIS IS THE VIDEO EVERYONE IS WAITING FOR . HOPE YOU MAKE IT ‘’SOON’’ !
I dont think 95% of ski sales are 90-99mm
@@quincyvos5457 I GUESS YOU ARE NEW TO SKIING. BEST TO KEEP MOUTH SHUT WHEN YOU KNOW FUCK ALL. BEST FREE ADVICE YOU WILL EVER GET !
Lining up the wall as we speak...
Hey guys, love your reviews. I’ve watched countless hours in the past couple weeks trying to decide what ski to buy! I live in SW Colorado and want a ski besides my volkl mantra m5. I bought the mantra without really knowing what I was getting into, so don’t think I’m a mantra type die hard haha. I want something that’s more playful, and better in the trees/bumps/powder. I also kinda want to experiment with the 50/50 resort/touring type. Realistically probably more like 80/20 resort/touring.
I’m stuck between blizzard hustle 10s, Bent 100s, and maybe the volkl blaze 106s. I’m also 5’11” 160lbs if that helps. What would you guys lean towards!? Thanks so much, I appreciate it!
Thanks for the kind words! I think the Hustle 10 is right up your alley. Great in any capacity from touring to resort. I'd think the 172 in that ski will get you what you need.
@@SkiEssentials Awesome, thank you so much for the reply, I think that's what I'll go with!
1:40?!! 😂
What about ranger 102??
That ski made it into the 100 mm comparison: www.skiessentials.com/Chairlift-Chat/2023-ski-comparisons-mens-100-mm-all-mountain-ski-guide/
New Rustlers are coming next year! For those who are curious
That is interesting! I was looking at getting new skis this year (probably the Atris) but there are so many cool skis coming soon that I might have to wait, at least until brands start showing the new stuff. Unreasonably excited for the Revolt 11x
We're curious!
Hi, thanks so much for all these vids!
I recently broke my Line Vision 108's and am looking for something with a similar feeling and width but a bit more robust, i really loved how playfull they were both on and off piste. I'm a fairly light skier, around 140 pounds, and 5/9 I currently ski 100% in resort but I'm looking to get into something like 30% touring later this season, I ski about 80% off piste when conditions allow it. I like everything about the volkl blaze but i do some occasional backwards skiing and landings. For me it's not about charging, but more drops, jumps, fun, surfy,...
I really like everything about what you are telling about the QST 106 and the revolt 104. Since I'm looking to get into touring I was thinking on putting a Kingpin or shift on it, just to start somewhere, or just alpine bindings i can take from my visions. Any thoughts about this?
I'd stick to the alpine side of the spectrum just for safety's sake. If you decide to get into touring, you'll probably want to spend some more time and money. I like the QST 106 a whole lot for this application--I'd go that route!
SE
I’ll take a Nordica Enforcer 104 Free if you’re just gonna give it away 😁
www.skiessentials.com/products/2023-nordica-enforcer-104-free-skis-w-tyrolia-attack2-14-gw-bindings
soul 7 not on the list?!
The Soul 7 hasn't been on any list since 2020. At that point the Soul went to Sender.
Oh boy is this great ❄️⛷another 2hrs
Yay skis!