5 years and going! I spray all trim, doors and other odds and ends with this little unit. I replaced the hose and gun as the original did gum up. But for the price, nothing beats it. Thanks for posting this Chris!
Hi Chris....so yeah I am a 67 year old DIY. I purchased this machine to spray my 1500 sq ft single story stucco house, and I got to say it worked like a dream. Not a production unit but for an old geezer that was taking his time it really performed. Over spray was minimal and I pumped 10 gals on the body until I finally pooped out. Pretty easy clean up. I do see the advantage of a hose whip but this is a one off project for me so just used the stock hose.
I bought a Controlmax due to seeing one sitting as a return at Home Depot. Bought it for 220.00 Sprayed a set of cabinets with it and the only thing I noticed compared to my Graco390 or Titan640i is that the lacquer (Kem Aqua, SW Waterborne) landed a bit orange peely on the surface. Ripply. It leveled out ok but still it was an area of concern. For what it's worth, if you bought this machine and dedicated it to your lacquer jobs and averaged 2-3 gallons per job, you may get 60 jobs out of it. The hose is irritating to use as it is quite stiff. Also no "on/off" switch. Other than that it's a solid purchase for the money.
I purchased one and painted my entire house from the inside and my garage with no problems. it sprayed even an saved me so much time instead of using a paint roller.
Have been using mine for almost 2 years spraying kitchens and yes you can buy parts for it. Take a review for using it for one day with a grain of salt.
I did buy a filter for this gun it is the Titan HEA filter set (353-705) that attaches to the gun itself. By the way great video as always. Very informative Thanks.
I got the 1900 control max and for the money feel it is a great entry level airless sprayer for the DIYer. It is very easy to use and operate. I got the whip hose conversion from you and the whip hose, looking forward to trying them out in the near future on my house.
Idaho painter you are the man. Thank you so much for all your videos and your priceless knowledge you freely give out. I'm in kind of a jam right now and don't have my Titan 440 to use. So my question is with this1700 Titan I should have no problem using it on my next job which is an interior trim work/Mill work. I understand it's not for an everyday use. In your opinion Since I'm in a pinch and don't have my 440 doing a few interior jobs with this Sprayer should be just fine. Thank you again for all your help. I find myself watching hours and hours of your videos trying to soak up as much knowledge as I can 👍
Great review. I have the Wagner Control Pro 190 Sprayer I use strictly for staining on decks & fences when I need it. Works great for what I need it for. Definitely won't last a lifetime but for the $ it does a good job for doing smaller jobs.
I have something like this unit that I bought from harbor freight and I have sprayed a deck, T1-11 on a garage, the trim for the garage, a trim pack with 6 doors and 50 pieces of trim, a 6 ft cedar fence, and 2 interiors ( 1 apartment and 1 house) I am absolutely amazed at what I have been able to get done with this thing. It has payed for itself 5 x's over and still works great.
@@Idahopainter Yeah, I'm still struggling to get my subs and I am noticing a lot of Contractors just want to use me up. I have worked for 4 companies in the past 3 months. Kind of discouraging actually, but I think it is just the reality of our workforce today.
This is the difference in a "Homeowner" vs "Professional" grade tools. There are a lot of differences from your Skil, Harbor Freight or Ryobi's homeowner tools and your professional Festool, Milwaukee, Makita, Bosch... The quality of the plastics, cords, power, bearing vs bushings, engineering... Professional tools typically work better and last longer, they are more enjoyable to work with. To me spending $600 more for a 440 Impact is a no brainer, even if I were just a DIY'er doing a one time job, I would buy the better tool and then sell it when I was done. I've learned to not buy cheap quality tools, tires, shoes/boots and mattresses. You tend to get the best value buying quality vs price.
i like your approach. i been painting up here near Yosemite for 20 yrs. we get extreme cold and heat so the products gotta be good also. i have had a couple titan,graco, airlessco too. titan wins . i prefer the hiboy models for easier moving. but heck it's just paint it can?always be sanded and sprayed again. keep up the good work.
This is an excellent video. Thanks for posting. I appreciated the detailed, honest explanation of each feature/component. However, the sound was terrible. It was very difficult to hear you in some parts and others you were very loud. But the info I could hear clearly was great. 🙂
Helpful vid. As a part-time painter it's tempting to go budget (which I've done) but I might just suck it up for the 440 which will probably last forever.
so been doing research and & I'm just gonna buy a paint sprayer cause all the ones homedpot rents I can only use water base paint witch leads me to ask so an oil base paint will last about 15yr and a egg shell paint will last 20yrs if I'm correct I want to go with the best paint for the fact it will protect my home longer and a water base paint will only last about 5yrs would be awesome if I could get an answer from you since your defiantly the best in this field
Enjoyed the video. This would be my first time using a sprayer and looking to spray about 6 mobil homes for my brother's mobil home park, starting with cabinetry. But I think I would like a decent commercial one but not too pricey. Please let me know what you think would be a good one, I'm thinking our budget would be somewhere around 1,000 to 1,500. Thanks for your help! Paint up the town! Jeff
I really only need a sprayer to paint my two story home and I Probably wouldn't use again after that... Im looking to buy a decent unit to get the exterior painted instead of renting one this looks like it might the right choice.. any thoughts on using Sherwin Williams paint?
I am not 100% sure this machine has the guts to churn out exterior paint. I have experience using airless machine and depending on the square footage of the exterior, you might be better off getting something with a bit more power. At least it will have a higher resell value if you keep it clean.
If you dont want to rent or know someone who can loan you a real sprayer, I would advise buying a better one used or refurbished off of eBay or Craigslist. You can get quality sprayers for just a little bit more than the 400 you'd be wasting on this unit. That is way too much money to throw away on something that has a 175gallon life span and proprietary fittings with unservicable parts. At the very least "upgrade" to the cheapo home depot graco sprayers that have quickly replaceable pumps. This particular unit is just an all around terrible purchase even in its price range .
@Alex K ..Nicely put my friend.. The UK version of this pump is the Wagner Control Pro, I’ve witnessed the packings fail and the pump leak very quickly.. The Graco alternative would be a much better option. Even stretching to the GX21, whilst a step up from the pumps aimed at the DIY market, it won’t miss a beat 😊
@@Idahopainter what would you recommend? I’ll actually will be painting less then half the house. We had the downstairs done last year and i just did one of the upstairs bathrooms. So probably be painting about 1200 sq feet of living space but ill need to do the trim, doors, ceiling and walls. The trim and doors take forever to do with a brush and roller. I would say around 15-20 gallons or so plus I want to paint the garage in the spring and stain concrete patio.
I just bought the Wagner version of this (ControlPro 250) will use it for the first time spraying Renner 653 & 760, I still have no idea about the appropriate tip and the pressure level, any recommendations? Thank you.
Update: I thinned the paint 2:1 water- exterior latex. WORKED LIKE A CHARM…STILL WASTING A TON OF PAINT THOUGH…ONLY MY SECOND TIME USING IT. ITRULY ONLY WATCH PAINT LIFE TV! Thank you so much!!!!!!
Excellent video! Nice option for diy’ers like me but seems too cheap on quality. I have doors, jams and trim to paint and was considering the Graco Ultra. Would this be a contender? Any recommendations for a moderate price unit?
Wagner makes them. Titan is their professional line of sprayers. I have the Wagner Control Pro 190 sprayer I use strictly for staining decks & fences when I need it. I don't strictly use it for staining but only in areas where I can't use a brush. I don't use it for painting. It does a great job actually for what I need it for. The Titan Control Max is a little more expensive than the regular Wagner Version but looks exactly the same.
5 years and going! I spray all trim, doors and other odds and ends with this little unit. I replaced the hose and gun as the original did gum up. But for the price, nothing beats it. Thanks for posting this Chris!
Would you say this is better then a wanger
Hi Chris....so yeah I am a 67 year old DIY. I purchased this machine to spray my 1500 sq ft single story stucco house, and I got to say it worked like a dream. Not a production unit but for an old geezer that was taking his time it really performed. Over spray was minimal and I pumped 10 gals on the body until I finally pooped out. Pretty easy clean up. I do see the advantage of a hose whip but this is a one off project for me so just used the stock hose.
Thank you for sharing and I am glad you had success🤙
Ben Moore Advance is a big part of the finish being so great. That product is AWESOME! I use it on all my trim jobs
I bought a Controlmax due to seeing one sitting as a return at Home Depot.
Bought it for 220.00
Sprayed a set of cabinets with it and the only thing I noticed compared to my Graco390 or Titan640i is that the lacquer (Kem Aqua, SW Waterborne) landed a bit orange peely on the surface. Ripply. It leveled out ok but still it was an area of concern.
For what it's worth, if you bought this machine and dedicated it to your lacquer jobs and averaged 2-3 gallons per job, you may get 60 jobs out of it.
The hose is irritating to use as it is quite stiff. Also no "on/off" switch.
Other than that it's a solid purchase for the money.
I purchased one and painted my entire house from the inside and my garage with no problems. it sprayed even an saved me so much time instead of using a paint roller.
Nice
Have been using mine for almost 2 years spraying kitchens and yes you can buy parts for it. Take a review for using it for one day with a grain of salt.
Glad you did this, your experience and expertise appreciated
I did buy a filter for this gun it is the Titan HEA filter set (353-705) that attaches to the gun itself. By the way great video as always. Very informative Thanks.
I got the 1900 control max and for the money feel it is a great entry level airless sprayer for the DIYer. It is very easy to use and operate. I got the whip hose conversion from you and the whip hose, looking forward to trying them out in the near future on my house.
Thanks for sharing
Idaho painter you are the man. Thank you so much for all your videos and your priceless knowledge you freely give out. I'm in kind of a jam right now and don't have my Titan 440 to use. So my question is with this1700 Titan I should have no problem using it on my next job which is an interior trim work/Mill work. I understand it's not for an everyday use. In your opinion Since I'm in a pinch and don't have my 440 doing a few interior jobs with this Sprayer should be just fine. Thank you again for all your help. I find myself watching hours and hours of your videos trying to soak up as much knowledge as I can 👍
Thanks for the review. I was deciding on the Titan or the Graco Magnum X5 and will definitely go for the Graco.
Great review. I have the Wagner Control Pro 190 Sprayer I use strictly for staining on decks & fences when I need it. Works great for what I need it for. Definitely won't last a lifetime but for the $ it does a good job for doing smaller jobs.
I use one of the Control Pro sprayers for the same exact reason. Just stain and nothing else. Great for covering fences.
@@ChannelEleven59 Exactly. Works great for staining where needed.
How's that machine with overspray?
@@Rick-kp6wf there is not really much at all. Just wish it had a wider tip for fences though.
I have something like this unit that I bought from harbor freight and I have sprayed a deck, T1-11 on a garage, the trim for the garage, a trim pack with 6 doors and 50 pieces of trim, a 6 ft cedar fence, and 2 interiors ( 1 apartment and 1 house) I am absolutely amazed at what I have been able to get done with this thing. It has payed for itself 5 x's over and still works great.
What product are you talking about?
@@MikeCip Probably the Krause & Becker paint sprayer. They are on clearance at Harbor Freight for $250
@@rts3613 Yup, Krause & Becker.
Nice
@@Idahopainter Yeah, I'm still struggling to get my subs and I am noticing a lot of Contractors just want to use me up. I have worked for 4 companies in the past 3 months. Kind of discouraging actually, but I think it is just the reality of our workforce today.
A gun filter is available. Part#; titan 353-705 central max hea filter / swivel set or wagner 580611 control pro filter / swivel
Hello, it was a really professional review, thanks for the data👍
This is the difference in a "Homeowner" vs "Professional" grade tools. There are a lot of differences from your Skil, Harbor Freight or Ryobi's homeowner tools and your professional Festool, Milwaukee, Makita, Bosch... The quality of the plastics, cords, power, bearing vs bushings, engineering... Professional tools typically work better and last longer, they are more enjoyable to work with.
To me spending $600 more for a 440 Impact is a no brainer, even if I were just a DIY'er doing a one time job, I would buy the better tool and then sell it when I was done. I've learned to not buy cheap quality tools, tires, shoes/boots and mattresses. You tend to get the best value buying quality vs price.
Thanks for your thoughts
i like your approach. i been painting up here near Yosemite for 20 yrs. we get extreme cold and heat so the products gotta be good also. i have had a couple titan,graco, airlessco too. titan wins . i prefer the hiboy models for easier moving. but heck it's just paint it can?always be sanded and sprayed again. keep up the good work.
Tank you very much for your awesome honesty about this equipment thanks 🙏 again
This is an excellent video. Thanks for posting. I appreciated the detailed, honest explanation of each feature/component. However, the sound was terrible. It was very difficult to hear you in some parts and others you were very loud. But the info I could hear clearly was great. 🙂
Helpful vid. As a part-time painter it's tempting to go budget (which I've done) but I might just suck it up for the 440 which will probably last forever.
Sou fã fã do seus trabalhos
Great review!!!
Chris, what tip size were you using to spray the cabinets with the Benjamin Moore Advanced in this video? 515?
I had trouble of make and model ? I had trouble hearing....
Did you strain your paint when you use that 1700 ? Thanks
I've got one it spits to do a house project for a mist coat of and
it was a nightmare
Basically your telling me NOT to buy this piece of junk unless I only need it for one job
Awesome video thanks👌
Glad you liked it!
Ole Ben Moore making that turd titan look like a champ! Thanks for the review bud! Great information that's actually useful!
💯 Ben Moore Advance glass like finish.
what would be the finest tip for that model of sprayer to spray lacquer with ?
so been doing research and & I'm just gonna buy a paint sprayer cause all the ones homedpot rents I can only use water base paint witch leads me to ask so an oil base paint will last about 15yr and a egg shell paint will last 20yrs if I'm correct I want to go with the best paint for the fact it will protect my home longer and a water base paint will only last about 5yrs would be awesome if I could get an answer from you since your defiantly the best in this field
For a small, in home, furniture shop that makes around 15-20 pieces a year that get primed and painted… would this be a good choice?
Very informative
In my country cost 800 Bucks lol and titan 440 1300$
Enjoyed the video. This would be my first time using a sprayer and looking to spray about 6 mobil homes for my brother's mobil home park, starting with cabinetry. But I think I would like a decent commercial one but not too pricey.
Please let me know what you think would be a good one, I'm thinking our budget would be somewhere around 1,000 to 1,500.
Thanks for your help!
Paint up the town!
Jeff
It gets the job done
I really only need a sprayer to paint my two story home and I Probably wouldn't use again after that... Im looking to buy a decent unit to get the exterior painted instead of renting one this looks like it might the right choice.. any thoughts on using Sherwin Williams paint?
I am not 100% sure this machine has the guts to churn out exterior paint. I have experience using airless machine and depending on the square footage of the exterior, you might be better off getting something with a bit more power. At least it will have a higher resell value if you keep it clean.
If you dont want to rent or know someone who can loan you a real sprayer, I would advise buying a better one used or refurbished off of eBay or Craigslist. You can get quality sprayers for just a little bit more than the 400 you'd be wasting on this unit. That is way too much money to throw away on something that has a 175gallon life span and proprietary fittings with unservicable parts. At the very least "upgrade" to the cheapo home depot graco sprayers that have quickly replaceable pumps. This particular unit is just an all around terrible purchase even in its price range .
@@AlexKunstar thank you
@@justaman1721 thanks
@Alex K ..Nicely put my friend.. The UK version of this pump is the Wagner Control Pro, I’ve witnessed the packings fail and the pump leak very quickly.. The Graco alternative would be a much better option. Even stretching to the GX21, whilst a step up from the pumps aimed at the DIY market, it won’t miss a beat 😊
This pump is designed and priced to compete with the Graco's sold in big box stores I'm sure. I would still choose Titan to comparable priced others.
Agreed
Advance = Great!
Awesome. Go Boise state lol. I’m getting ready to redo my kitchen cabinets. Was looking at a grace x5. I might get this instead
Fairly similar
How does this campar to the graco equal price ones?
What tip did you use on the cabinet door?
Hi can you please post a video about how to use this sprayer and about cleaning as well if it’s possible...
Will do
@@Idahopainter thanks a lot! there is no specific video on TH-cam, I am sure yours is going to be only the one , if you do
Can I use this with “Zinsser-B-I-N-Interior-Multi-Purpose-Shellac-Wall-and-Ceiling-Primer”?
Do they have a gun with filter that you can use?
Can I use the 1700 for a one time 2000 square foot vinyl sided ranch house repaint? Just can't see paying $900 for the 440, thanks!
What about the Graco project pro
Do you still recommend the Titan FlexSpray? It's on sale this weekend and am curious about your current opinion!
Not a fan at all
@@Idahopainter thanks a bunch!!
This sprayer can do solven paint, lacquer paint,? Thank u en god bless!
This or a graco x5? Painting house. Walls, trim and ceilings.
Neither but a Titan if no other
@@Idahopainter what would you recommend? I’ll actually will be painting less then half the house. We had the downstairs done last year and i just did one of the upstairs bathrooms. So probably be painting about 1200 sq feet of living space but ill need to do the trim, doors, ceiling and walls. The trim and doors take forever to do with a brush and roller. I would say around 15-20 gallons or so plus I want to paint the garage in the spring and stain concrete patio.
sir, I want to bai this paint spray mechin from angladesh, but price?
Can the Titan paint hopper (704-453) be attached to the CM 1700?
New sub
Would you recommend oil? This is all I want for my cabinet work
Only water for me
Please make a video about Farrow and Ball , what is you opinion, I have the opportunity to change my painting style , more professional
Great paint
GRACO ROCKS
Can I do this exterior work?❤️
I just bought the Wagner version of this (ControlPro 250) will use it for the first time spraying Renner 653 & 760, I still have no idea about the appropriate tip and the pressure level, any recommendations? Thank you.
I hang up plastic and sample spray, dial up the pressure and spray til you have an even fan. No fingering if that makes sense
What kind of pants are you wearing ?
I’m using the 1700 HE a 515 five 1710 and I can’t get the paint to stop from streaming, it doesn’t really spray any advice?
Update: I thinned the paint 2:1 water- exterior latex. WORKED LIKE A CHARM…STILL WASTING A TON OF PAINT THOUGH…ONLY MY SECOND TIME USING IT. ITRULY ONLY WATCH PAINT LIFE TV! Thank you so much!!!!!!
I plan on spraying my cabinets and saw how well this did. Would you use this over a $500.00 range hvlp system?
Never
@@IdahopainterAn HVLP unit is better?
Is this one exactly the same as wagner control pro 350m extra??? Because it's exactly the same shape just changed the colors
Yep
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Excellent video! Nice option for diy’ers like me but seems too cheap on quality. I have doors, jams and trim to paint and was considering the Graco Ultra. Would this be a contender? Any recommendations for a moderate price unit?
I would never purchase one myself.
Yo big man! Are you going to sell these on your store with the conversion kit and whip packaged?
Good idea
Make a video on ultra beast 4700 airless ☺
Would love to get one
So you won’t be able to put an HEA tip into that gun/guard? It has to be a controlmax tip?
That sounds silly
You can change the guard.
can the gun be replace with a better one?
Yes
Looks like the harbor freight airless
How do u use the damn thing????!!!
Can I work with you
There’s a are crappy. Good idea with terrible execution. For a few dollars more just get a low end Greco pump
hey John Cena
Thats Looks like a Wagner
Wagner makes them. Titan is their professional line of sprayers. I have the Wagner Control Pro 190 sprayer I use strictly for staining decks & fences when I need it. I don't strictly use it for staining but only in areas where I can't use a brush. I don't use it for painting. It does a great job actually for what I need it for. The Titan Control Max is a little more expensive than the regular Wagner Version but looks exactly the same.
@@Vulcan5911 ahhhh okay ..... in german we dont knew Titan ..... only Wagner ..... thanks for your answer
ASD Raumgestaltung titán and Wagner have same models of sprayers with diferentes names and colors
Same company.
Wagner and titan are the same thing
Was hear
Make it simple lol only for indors not for out doors lol simple like that
Your back and knees hurt I can tell ....paint life
I think you have to go to point easy you don't have to speak so much was time
ProprietAry ..,not proprietory
OK
Can I ask why your not using a filter at the gun end or am I missing something ?
This pump does not have that option