Because its so cheap in the used market and doesnt need an additional 6 pin power cable which made it perfect to upgrade office PCs. Also alot of entry "gaming laptops" from like the last 5 years had a gtx 1650. The 3060 is too expensive for the majority
1650 is such a wonderful card. My first choice for PC´s with crappy PSU´s. Sure, in 2024 not enough for new games, but for older titles and e-sports, its still a genius peace of work
@@jeffreygrindle6396 exactly my thoughts! Sure the 10th series dont got ray tracing but yeah, overall the better series in my opinion😉 Also, happy holidays guys😀
10 series was probabaly the best series ever released it had everything. From power connector free 1050 to high end 1080ti that still crushes newer games and is for the oomph it has, extremely power efficient for the time. ive had the 1060 Aorus Xtreme 9gbps which i bought for 240 bucks shortly after the cards came out. I bought it used but it still had guarantee so an awesome deal. I OC'd it butit wasnt actually needed. It played every game i had on ultra, 1080p with 60+ fps. Only limited by my monitor. When i deactivated the games usually ran up to 65 to 100 fps and Doom even higher. Battlefront 2, Battlefield 1, Doom 2016, Metro Last Light Redux, Fallout 4 with 200 mods all without any trouble. (native and no use of FSR) and the card ran ice cold and power efficient despite being cramped into my super tiny Dell Office PC case. And i had not a single game that was able to even remotely fill up the 6GB vram of that card. Vram was mostly scraping at 4GB with my fully modded Fallout 4. show me the 4060 nowadays and test it to play brand new modern AAA titles in native 1080p on ultra. Things defenitely changed.
Yeah, the sad thing is my ROG Ally runs the piss out of Stalker 2 on medium @30w total draw. It's really easy to forget that AMD based APU chips are better than pretty much any card less powerful than a 1060 now.
Part of the reason the GTX 750ti still pulls a premium is because it's the last best low-profile single-slot card to support WinXP. The 9xx series didn't have any low-profile, and the 10xx series has no XP drivers. So anybody building a high-end retrogaming XP rig, in a mini-ITX case small enough to fit on a shelf like a console, wants that 750ti.
It was bought in huge numbers by the prebuilt PC makers to make an office box into a low end "gaming" PC, and lots of those systems were sold and used...many are still used today.
Pretty sure you forgot about the 1650. It overtook the 1060 for a period during COVID before the 3060 became the most popular option (when people could finally buy it at MSRP)
Great video! It’s not surprising to see new graphics card equals better. It would be interesting if you could Wayback machine the top games at the time to see if there’s been a relative performance change between the cards. Like was there a time where the most popular graphics card would get 100 fps in the popular games for it’s time and now modern cards get more or less frames to their modern titles?
Usually when a system fails to boot because of CSM issues depending on the motherboard you'll probably have to update the vbios firmware to a "beta" firmware for older cards
That was really interesting. I think a dive further back in time would be great. Maybe down to the beginning of graphics cards but obviously it might be quite difficult to run Stalker on a Voodoo card ^^
I think this would be a really interesting concept, except as you go back, try the GPUs with whatever games were popular back then and add them to the testing list. Good showcase of how games and GPUs have changed over time.
I'd love to see a comparison of graphics cards that are PCI powered only, so we can see what you really get for options upgrading an old office PC, with all these millions of PCs about to dump onto the market in the next year
I first started off with a 1050ti 4GB in 2017, then bought a 1060 3GB I think a year or two later (not sure why I got it tbh) then bought a 1660ti in about 2018-19, finally I was able to save up a big chunk of money and got a 4070. It was such a huge step-up in performance I'm hoping to get another 5 years out of it.
Not surprised the 960 is on it's last legs, those cards were getting used to death and even my old 980 gave its last breath while playing Black Ops Cold War many years back.
The 750Ti used to be called "the 360 in a card" which makes sense, it was pretty amazing to have so much power in such an efficient package. It and it's Quadro siblings the KX200s are great to give work PCs at least some gaming capabilities.
So for some reason, youtube decided I wanted to hear an AI voiced German dub of this video when I clicked it. Might wanna see if you can turn that off on the backend somewhere because that was so jarring.
It happened to me either but in Spanish, at first i thought it was a Dawid's joke to promote any translator or something or maybe I opened a new Dawid's Spanish channel 😂
Oh man, the GTX 960 2GB, that's a blast from the past. I had that exact model from EVGA. I got it so I could play The Witcher 3, and it served me well through some really bad times. Five years of flawless service before I finally replaced it in 2020. I ended up donating it to a friend who knew someone that needed a GPU.
I'm still using a GTX 1080 and it's still running like a champ after several years. It ran Cyberpunk 2077 on release at ultra settings 1080p 60fps without any problems and that was before they even added any patches.
I had the same card at release, but with a 1440p screen. IIRC, I played it at high settings (without RT, of course) and 1440p native. It only managed 30 fps, but it was a locked, evenly paced 30 fps that felt pretty good. Since I was playing it as a slow stealth game / immersive sim light, I didn't really need higher frame rates. Interestingly, I experienced very few bugs with the release version. I think the game crashed only twice and I got stuck in the scenery once. That was it. I guess I was lucky.
I was still using a GTX 1050 till about 2 years ago when it died and I got a GTX 1660, which runs everything i want to, so, it'll do me for a few years yet.
@no1DdC smae man, only bug for me was sometimes loot from enemies (which was always junk anyways) would be below the floor and the game never once crashed on me in over 100 hours of play in the first 2 months after release. I felt like I was the only one without bugs lol
Do not cut towards yourself. That was your thumb, right in front of the blade. Oh my god, I just got nervous. That was not the way to handle a blade that closed your thumb. Anyway. sorry if that irritates anyone Just had to say something when I saw that.
What a blast from the past, reminds me of my first PC. I still have my 2gb 750ti, It was an upgrade to my prebuilt acer computer to be able to play overwatch. Eventually I decided to risk it and get something that needed more power and the rx580 made that system quite confident
9:55 It's funny, it was only the other day I read a history book about the French Revolution that made specific reference to the Steam Hardware Survey 2017-2024
People forget how huge of a generational leap there was between GTX 900 and GTX 10 series. The architecture simultaneously performed better while being more power efficient. They sold out so quick, that if you weren't on the product page RIGHT as it was restocked, you just had to wait for the next round of stock... and that was before bots were widely used to scalp GPUs! Shoot, the GTX 10 series is so GOATed that a GTX 1080 Ti is STILL viable for a 1080p gaming rig, SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS after its release!
I almost got the 3GB cheapo variant of 1060 when it was released, but ended up with an used 780 Ti instead, as Kepler was still properly supported so it wasn't a bad purchase back in 2016.
While I'm not using it, I still have my 960 that I bought for my first desktop computer. I was so excited to build my own computer at that time. I might build another computer next year, but more for enjoyment rather than necessity.
You missed gtx 1650, which was on top before rtx 3060.
I really wanted to see the comparison between 1060 and 1650
If they would still sell the 1650 for $99 retail, it would be king again.
Nah @@RobertFixit
The gauntlet has been thrown down! They must enter the deathmatch arena of death!
1650 has 4 gigs. It would have to be much better to overcome that
He Also forgot the "Chinese" version of 1060,5 gb variant.
Gtx 1650 overtook the 1060 before the 3060 took over
Because its so cheap in the used market and doesnt need an additional 6 pin power cable which made it perfect to upgrade office PCs. Also alot of entry "gaming laptops" from like the last 5 years had a gtx 1650. The 3060 is too expensive for the majority
That makes sense because it was found in just about every single entry gaming laptop which all struggling uni students game on
@@zeronin4696 and also the 3060 and 4060 counts the laptop variants separately, the 1060 and 1650 counted them together
You are correct.
1650 is such a wonderful card. My first choice for PC´s with crappy PSU´s. Sure, in 2024 not enough for new games, but for older titles and e-sports, its still a genius peace of work
Shocked how well the 1060 is still doing 10 series was so far ahead of its time
My 1070 is still running strong in the wifes pc. Runs anything fine if you arent a graphics snob
@@JGWalrus my own wife's pc has a 1080 in it she mainly plays Sims it's fantastic for her
@@swealer the 20 series could of been good it was just so overpriced for it limited gains
@@jeffreygrindle6396 exactly my thoughts! Sure the 10th series dont got ray tracing but yeah, overall the better series in my opinion😉
Also, happy holidays guys😀
10 series was probabaly the best series ever released
it had everything. From power connector free 1050 to high end 1080ti that still crushes newer games and is for the oomph it has, extremely power efficient for the time.
ive had the 1060 Aorus Xtreme 9gbps which i bought for 240 bucks shortly after the cards came out. I bought it used but it still had guarantee so an awesome deal. I OC'd it butit wasnt actually needed. It played every game i had on ultra, 1080p with 60+ fps. Only limited by my monitor.
When i deactivated the games usually ran up to 65 to 100 fps and Doom even higher.
Battlefront 2, Battlefield 1, Doom 2016, Metro Last Light Redux, Fallout 4 with 200 mods all without any trouble. (native and no use of FSR)
and the card ran ice cold and power efficient despite being cramped into my super tiny Dell Office PC case.
And i had not a single game that was able to even remotely fill up the 6GB vram of that card. Vram was mostly scraping at 4GB with my fully modded Fallout 4.
show me the 4060 nowadays and test it to play brand new modern AAA titles in native 1080p on ultra. Things defenitely changed.
The 960 turned S.T.A.L.K.E.R into a turn based rpg
a solid connector instead of floppy connectors🤣🤣
Stalker on the 750 Ti wasn't running, it was walking just barely.
I'd call it crawling like a drunk baby
respect the elderly
I have never seen a drunk baby, I have seen regular babies crawl though@@arthuralford
Yeah, the sad thing is my ROG Ally runs the piss out of Stalker 2 on medium @30w total draw. It's really easy to forget that AMD based APU chips are better than pretty much any card less powerful than a 1060 now.
It was moving at a stalking pace
"Subway and lettuce diarrhea" is not a phrase I would expect in a gpu video.
wtf is that? xd
his word useage is why i subbed int he firstplace. hilarious
@@AffectionateLocomotive listeria lol
You clearly aren’t accustomed to Dawid’s beautiful GPU poetry
@@frogslayer4849???
it's not a Dawid video if you don't hear an expression you never heard before. today, "lettuce diarrhea."
Mine was “Jumpstart a 700 year old lawn mower”
"shriveled up honeymoon ruiner" was funnier.
Part of the reason the GTX 750ti still pulls a premium is because it's the last best low-profile single-slot card to support WinXP.
The 9xx series didn't have any low-profile, and the 10xx series has no XP drivers.
So anybody building a high-end retrogaming XP rig, in a mini-ITX case small enough to fit on a shelf like a console, wants that 750ti.
15:55 - Dual GTX 750 TI, nice!
its the SPEED force.
hey! TH-cam now Automatically dubbed audio tracks now! eww. (except for non English guys)
lol I caught that too
lol yea
Wasn't the GTX 1650 most popular for a brief period of time?
Yup, Dec '22 to Sept '23 based off a quick google
It was bought in huge numbers by the prebuilt PC makers to make an office box into a low end "gaming" PC, and lots of those systems were sold and used...many are still used today.
The performance difference compared to a 1060 ain't much, I imagine it's mostly vram limited
1060 was the best bang for buck. Like the rx6600 is now. 1650 was a budget card that came later
I honestly love how many GPUs you've collected over the years. Honestly jealous, hahaha.
i got hd 530 and hd 620😊😊
@@AffectionateLocomotive Stop the flexing, bro.^^
@@MichaeltheORIGINAL1 I got more😏😏
@@MichaeltheORIGINAL1 adreno 610😏
Love this kind of comparison, thank you Dawid! Yes, that 1060's cooling is abysmal.
Good god, TH-cam, auto translated Dawid is cursed!
Hi Dawid, nice and something different format this video so i say yes to more in the future.
There is something wrong here because I know for a fact that the 1650 was the top GPU in steam HW survey for while
Pretty sure you forgot about the 1650. It overtook the 1060 for a period during COVID before the 3060 became the most popular option (when people could finally buy it at MSRP)
You have the best ideas. I keep coming back because your videos are unique every-damn-time.
Love seeing the old stuff. Really impressed with the performance you could still get today.
Dawid, You do have GTX 750 Ti before you bought the new one. Its in the Optiplex SFF you covered a few years ago lol
Great video! It’s not surprising to see new graphics card equals better. It would be interesting if you could Wayback machine the top games at the time to see if there’s been a relative performance change between the cards. Like was there a time where the most popular graphics card would get 100 fps in the popular games for it’s time and now modern cards get more or less frames to their modern titles?
dayum, im acctually here to watch less than an hour of u uploading. I usually watch it a day after you upload
11:04 I love that David is still doing the Shroud bit all these years later
I really like the colors they use for the hardware survey graphs. Feels funky
Dude I remember when this channel had like 5k subs. Congrats
Reaching back into the annals is quite a popular pastime.
I have that 3060 and run nothing, but 1440p. The extra 4 gig of gddr6 makes a huge difference.
Exactly. I switched to 1440p with RTX 3060 and never looked back at Full HD.
Yup, it might be slower then an 4060 8Gbyte. But that 4Gbyte of memory means we can kick it up!
Usually when a system fails to boot because of CSM issues depending on the motherboard you'll probably have to update the vbios firmware to a "beta" firmware for older cards
11:00 For a moment I thought they had sent you just a red sponge 😂
Further back in time is what I came for! Bring me back to when they first started rolling out these surveys! (HL2 days iirc?)
15.56 Wow Dawid those 2 750Ti's are performing wildly different in Cyber Punk! 🤡😂🤣
where the heck is gtx 1650???????????????
Make another one with even older graphics cards please. This was a good video, I was entertained.
Thanks for making it.
Your channel's music always reminds me of the Rally Trophy OST 👌👌
great video. i would like more and older cards. also, when you show the stalker 2 results, the 750ti is in twice...i love you
that is probably the cleanest case ive seen (in the intro)
Back in 2020, having to play Doom Eternal at 1366 x 768 was my cue to upgrade off of my 960 2GB.
15:55 we have 2x GTX 750 TI xD
Very nice quick dip into the GPU history! :)
The Rx580 Will still be the goat
fr fr
For sure. The 8GB version punches well above its class.
Crap
@@theallix frfr, sadly it's been replaced by the 2048sp variant that other chinese brand sells which i dont trust
AMD fanboys not missing an opportunity to always mention a amd gpu when it is not even in the video.
Now this was interesting to watch! I still have a 1060 lying around, absolute legend of a GPU IMO.
Enjoyed this one good to see older cards runing new games
Im really starting to like this Be Quiet case, gonna be tough letting go of the Y70
That front panel connector makes it worth while regardless of price.
there is a mod that disables the shader compilation on startup in stalker 2. makes starting up the game super quick.
That was really interesting. I think a dive further back in time would be great. Maybe down to the beginning of graphics cards but obviously it might be quite difficult to run Stalker on a Voodoo card ^^
Great video. I personally really enjoy that
Your video just defaulted to a german audio track for me which I didn't even know was a thing that's possible on YT - that was so jarring lmao
I think this would be a really interesting concept, except as you go back, try the GPUs with whatever games were popular back then and add them to the testing list. Good showcase of how games and GPUs have changed over time.
I'd love to see a comparison of graphics cards that are PCI powered only, so we can see what you really get for options upgrading an old office PC, with all these millions of PCs about to dump onto the market in the next year
I first started off with a 1050ti 4GB in 2017, then bought a 1060 3GB I think a year or two later (not sure why I got it tbh) then bought a 1660ti in about 2018-19, finally I was able to save up a big chunk of money and got a 4070. It was such a huge step-up in performance I'm hoping to get another 5 years out of it.
Phuck yeah, it's another Dawid episode!
ahhw man! i subscribed awhile back before you added the extra fps for subscribing!! damnit!
David should have included the 4060 in this video, as it's going to be the future champion starting next year.
Is it, though?
@@rustler08 It will likely be based on sales. Basically every Black Friday gaming PC "deal" around $1,000 seems to come with a 4060 of some variant.
@@Ultimatebubs No need, roughly about 10% faster than 3060 on average, sometimes even slower than 3060 in Vram heavy games.
The simple fact that your rig didn’t explode when that 960 was in it, should be considered a huge win for you Dawid.
Be quiet's logo always gets me.
"you dont really see the upscaling" - I see a blurry vignette as well as the Ansio LOD line at 80m where everything becomes a fuzzy mess.
Great video Dawid, now go back to the 1050Ti days.
Casually cutting toward your thumb like some kind of superman
Loved the video ⭐️
Come to think of it, I've a GTX 970 in my work PC. It served me damn well when it was being used for gaming, might actually try it out again. 😅
Excellent video alright 😁
this is good idea make a video whit even older gpus like from 2016 to 2009
Not surprised the 960 is on it's last legs, those cards were getting used to death and even my old 980 gave its last breath while playing Black Ops Cold War many years back.
the 700 series is crazy good with and overclock for some reason it overclocks really nicely
Could you make a video comparing the flagship GPU from each generation, in order to see how they have changed in performance over the decades?
In that department the 1080 ti is the GOAT. But yeah it would be interesting, no Titans thou (so niche) and no 690 (SLI issues), please.
Dawid, this is the second video without the iconic DDTS opening titles. Is this the end of an era?
The 750Ti used to be called "the 360 in a card" which makes sense, it was pretty amazing to have so much power in such an efficient package. It and it's Quadro siblings the KX200s are great to give work PCs at least some gaming capabilities.
So for some reason, youtube decided I wanted to hear an AI voiced German dub of this video when I clicked it. Might wanna see if you can turn that off on the backend somewhere because that was so jarring.
It happened to me either but in Spanish, at first i thought it was a Dawid's joke to promote any translator or something or maybe I opened a new Dawid's Spanish channel 😂
@16:02 Dawid liked the 750ti so much more than the 960 he put it on the table twice
Oh man, the GTX 960 2GB, that's a blast from the past. I had that exact model from EVGA. I got it so I could play The Witcher 3, and it served me well through some really bad times. Five years of flawless service before I finally replaced it in 2020. I ended up donating it to a friend who knew someone that needed a GPU.
im shocked no other tech channel has ever done this kind of idea before
I'm still using a GTX 1080 and it's still running like a champ after several years. It ran Cyberpunk 2077 on release at ultra settings 1080p 60fps without any problems and that was before they even added any patches.
I had the same card at release, but with a 1440p screen. IIRC, I played it at high settings (without RT, of course) and 1440p native. It only managed 30 fps, but it was a locked, evenly paced 30 fps that felt pretty good. Since I was playing it as a slow stealth game / immersive sim light, I didn't really need higher frame rates.
Interestingly, I experienced very few bugs with the release version. I think the game crashed only twice and I got stuck in the scenery once. That was it. I guess I was lucky.
I was still using a GTX 1050 till about 2 years ago when it died and I got a GTX 1660, which runs everything i want to, so, it'll do me for a few years yet.
I still have two GTX 1080s not in SLI anymore but in two PCs. They are great for 1080p but can struggle at times with 1440p.
@no1DdC smae man, only bug for me was sometimes loot from enemies (which was always junk anyways) would be below the floor and the game never once crashed on me in over 100 hours of play in the first 2 months after release. I felt like I was the only one without bugs lol
That was one of the videos of all time
Morning folks :D
Mornin!
GOOD MORNING VIETNAM 🦅🦅🦅
10 Series was epitome of nvidia graphics cards. they were such a huge and revolutionary jump and they were actually decently priced.
This is really interesting. I'm not surprised the 3060 is on the list for so long--I'm using one for AI stuff, and it's a workhorse.
Do not cut towards yourself. That was your thumb, right in front of the blade. Oh my god, I just got nervous. That was not the way to handle a blade that closed your thumb. Anyway. sorry if that irritates anyone Just had to say something when I saw that.
What a blast from the past, reminds me of my first PC. I still have my 2gb 750ti, It was an upgrade to my prebuilt acer computer to be able to play overwatch. Eventually I decided to risk it and get something that needed more power and the rx580 made that system quite confident
9:55 It's funny, it was only the other day I read a history book about the French Revolution that made specific reference to the Steam Hardware Survey 2017-2024
Subscribing increased my fps by 25% on average. Thank you Dawid.
People forget how huge of a generational leap there was between GTX 900 and GTX 10 series. The architecture simultaneously performed better while being more power efficient. They sold out so quick, that if you weren't on the product page RIGHT as it was restocked, you just had to wait for the next round of stock... and that was before bots were widely used to scalp GPUs!
Shoot, the GTX 10 series is so GOATed that a GTX 1080 Ti is STILL viable for a 1080p gaming rig, SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS after its release!
Loved the video, more please
I’m curious how far back the survey goes. Got any AGP cards on there?
That makes me think, PCI Express has been around for quite a while. When was the last era of AGP? When the Pentium 4 was out?
Definitly since the radeon 9800 was top back in 2004 along side the geforce 4
i used the 2gb 960 for about 2 years before i got a 2060, and i was very surprised how well vr games ran on it
What cpu you using? I get only 120 fps lowest settings cs2 with a 1660super
8:11 Dawid: Doom Eternal
Subtitles: "Doom Maternal"
I almost got the 3GB cheapo variant of 1060 when it was released, but ended up with an used 780 Ti instead, as Kepler was still properly supported so it wasn't a bad purchase back in 2016.
It'd be interesting to see how the same cards perform in demanding games from each era
i see nms in the background, a fellow space travler
Stalker gameplay on the 960 was my childhood playing on a crappy laptop, 15 fps on dayz and still got headshots
14:30 It's not the slot, it's that CSM often disables UEFI boot. There are systems/mobos that supposedly have a combo mode but I haven't tried that.
696k subs is a very nice number
Hey I just had the 1060, that card served me well even though I couldn't run anything eventually
Came for the video card showdown.... ended up thinking about that sweet sweet front panel connector plug.
it's the first time that i watch your channel and i like your content
Man my 1060 did me so well for years
Fairly sure you missed the 1650, which was #1 for quite a long time before the 3060.
While I'm not using it, I still have my 960 that I bought for my first desktop computer. I was so excited to build my own computer at that time. I might build another computer next year, but more for enjoyment rather than necessity.
It`d be cool test the cards with games popular during each reigns.
Would definitely watch a deeper dive into the past video. You may need to find a CRT monitor to really make it slap! Lol
Make another one of these, part 2 pls!