Why Wemby is your 2024 DPOY: - Leads the league in blocks (by far) - Leads the league in stocks (by far) - #2 in steals league-wise in February… - Spurs defense is elite (#5) with him on the floor. Could have been higher had he played center full season… - Spurs defense is DEAD LAST when he’s off the floor. Not only dead last but also historically bad defensively. Competing for the “worst defensive team ever” title when he’s off the court. - Only player with 10 blocks in a game this season. - Only player with back to back 5steals 5blocks games since MJ. - And the number of shots the opposing team does not take because he’s there is probably his biggest argument that does not show up in the stat sheet. - Opposing teams are setting high screens, double screens, re-screens, just to make sure he’s out of the paint… for a rookie… That’s how impactful he is. He is the DPOY and it’s not even close. By - @Peroriperora
In the past, americans see playing in europe a disavantage in comparisson to anything happening to rookies in USA. Now they talk of playing in europe as a way to say "oh well, he is not really a rookie" and again playing in europe became a disavantage in the other way around.
@@cyprienpaillerets2999 true, but the vast majority of rookies who put up All-Star or all NBA numbers are in their early to mid 20s. That’s why, historically, rookies tend to be better when upperclassman were the only ones to declare for the draft. Hell, the second best rookie season of all time belong to Tim Duncan, who was 22. So while being 24 doesn’t take away from David Robinson‘s rookie year, imagine if Michael Jordan had been 24 his first rookie year. Imagine if Luka stayed playing in Europe till he was 24. The numbers they would have put up as rookies would be astronomical.
You def can’t question the Admirals rookie season but if you compare minutes, age and a couple other factors you still have to step back and be impressed by what Wemby is doing
@@hoop_plug to be honest, I think that’s fair. Especially when you take into account the minutes restriction that Wembanyama has. It’s tough to compare, rookie seasons from different eras. Robinson produced more statistically, but Wemby is on a minutes restriction and his per 36s are better. Robinson made all NBA was an All-Star, but the league was significantly less talented back then. Robinson also let his team to 56 wins, but his supporting cast was far better. So it’s tough.
He wasn’t even the best rookie that year because of Bird, who was All-NBA first team and 4th in MVP voting Magic wasn’t (close to being) the best player on his own team either That game 6 might be the best game of his career so I think it shades a lot peoples perception of how good Magic was as a rookie and they think he was better than he was. Which was still *very* good but not on the level of Wilt, Russell, Oscar, Kareem, Bird, MJ and Duncan. And probably not Robinson or Shaq
When they starting to record block in 1973, some mf already broke a record by 17 blocks in single game (still the most in NBA). Imagine if they were recorded it back then.
@@RMASUPERFLY I feel like he gets a bad rap bc Jonathan issac comes in behind him. Paolo is a great defender jis just the best defender in the league coming I. Behind him
You got to be joking. Fucking wes Unseld won the MVP his rookie season. Damn you guys seriously need to get your shit together. Great season.. sure.. Best ever? Give me a break.. his teams won like 12 games.
Completely disregarding Wilt! He had the best ever rookie season, winning the ROTY and MVP at the same time. Had blocks and steals were recorded back then' he would've had the numbers. Still, as a rookie, Chamberlain averaged 37.6 points and 27.0 rebounds, More than anyone before or after hime, and actually, nobody else, rookie or not ever had or came close to those numbers.
People always forget Wilt for some reason. If anything, Wemby's success demonstrates how Wilt would have fared in today's NBA: he was almost as long as Wemby (wingspan of 7'8" as opposed to 8') and was stronger, faster, and could jump better. While there's a LOT of BS out there about Wilt's physical gifts, it IS indisputably true that they changed the free throw rules so that Wilt wouldn't be allowed to dunk them.
@@brandontingley7059 As far as I understood, they changed the law so that you'd have to stay behind the free throw line until the ball hits the rim, because Wilt would throw it and then run inside and dunk it, not because he would dunk from the free throw line
@@thanhhoainguyen3458 I've seen it several places that it was because he could dunk his free throws. Check out a video titled "Tex Winters explains two Wilt Chamberlain stories"
The reason Wilt is not mentioned much is because of the time he did it in the league. There weren't a lot of teams back then. There were not so many games to be played in a season back then and there wasn't definitely a lot of talent back then. Wilt was playing against amateurs. As in average players while he was one of the rare superstars in the league at the time. U ppl clearly overlook these facts over and over.💯😂 Then wonder why he is not mentioned as much. Lol, and for ppl to compare old basketball to new basketball is just stupid. Different rules, different styles of play, different coaching schemes, and a lot more All stars and talent in today's NBA then back then. Don't get triggered by facts😁🍻✌🏾
My question is: Has anyone who have put up comparable numbers done it on such an awful team? And that's not me saying he's doing this in spite of his team, but perhaps because of.
Spurs have an even worse record with the "greatest rookie in history" than the previous year without him. Yesterday they won against the Suns... when Wembi didn't play. Chet being a key piece in the best team in the west being completely ignored. Wembi has fantastic potential, but the marketing hype strikes hard on this one.
Wemby is nowhere NEAR the best, or approaching top 1o, rookie season ever!! First off, you cannot count raw #s between eras. When the rules & enforcement are so lax for offense, the counting stats are meaningless to judge for good anyone is between eras! Next, it is not a discerning way to evaluate how good anyone is just to pile up stats. Any scien-terrific measure of efficiency & how productive anyone is MUST measure not only turnovers but shooting %. looking at MEANINGFUL measures of total accomplishments: Value Over Replacement Player & WIn Shares-& you want to adjust for limited playing time? WS per 48! Box +/- & impact measures: sabermetrics stats. So Win Shares per 48? .076. This is several TIMES less actual contributions to wins as the very best guys, who approach & top .300. LeBron also did not have a superb rookie year: but if Wemby can be as dramatically improved next year as James was as a sophomore, then he that will mean a lot. He is having a GOOD year: for a rookie. An excellent year for anyone on something that adds value but not nearly as much as offense: his defense.
3.5 BPG in this 3pt era is like 7 BPG in 90s era
And he’s blocking 3s!
Not true. This 3pt era is either shoot 3s or get lays up and dunks.
@@uoeno5693 This era is spacing more and the game is less physical than the 90s era
Thats why its easier to get blocked in the 90s era than now
Without disrespecting any era, I think we could all agree 3.5 blocks per game is impressive in any era
@@uoeno5693there was less spacing in the 90s, more shots in the paint, midranges are easier to block than 3s and no defensive 3 second rule.
Wemby is also much much younger as a rookie compared to Shaq, Robinson, Duncan, Olajuwon etc while also doing those below 30mins...
Facts, imagine if he was getting more minutes 👀
MJ was 21 👀
Why Wemby is your 2024 DPOY:
- Leads the league in blocks (by far)
- Leads the league in stocks (by far) - #2 in steals league-wise in February…
- Spurs defense is elite (#5) with him on the floor. Could have been higher had he played center full season…
- Spurs defense is DEAD LAST when he’s off the floor. Not only dead last but also historically bad defensively. Competing for the “worst defensive team ever” title when he’s off the court.
- Only player with 10 blocks in a game this season.
- Only player with back to back 5steals 5blocks games since MJ.
- And the number of shots the opposing team does not take because he’s there is probably his biggest argument that does not show up in the stat sheet.
- Opposing teams are setting high screens, double screens, re-screens, just to make sure he’s out of the paint… for a rookie… That’s how impactful he is.
He is the DPOY and it’s not even close.
By - @Peroriperora
Wilt Chamberlain had the best rookie season ever. He was also MVP that year.
Yes. I believe this is why the ROY trophy is now named after him.
We weren't playing the same game in Wilt Chamberlain's time!!!! it was another time, another game.
And he also played 60-minute-games.
@@calou0165yes… but he was still beyond exceptional. Even if you take away the bullshit and exaggeration the verified stuff is peerless.
Oh yeah, he really showed how good he was against all those plumbers
He did all that on minutes restriction.
Facts!
Jordan…. 28/6/6 with 2 steals and 1 block a game… The GOAT
We done with the 90s, Jordan was a bum with nice sneakers
Great video, guys. I think he deserves ROY & DPOY this year.
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He might win 3 Defensive Player of the Year awards before he turns 21!
He is most likely not winning this year. Gobert is clearly leading the race.
Also Wemby is 20 now so at most he can get 1 DPOY before he is 21.
uhhh im not sure thats how that works
@@arvidbjoerk5307only because his team wemby has everything over him lmao be for real
the math is not mathin
I think he'll win 10 before he turns 21
Alright cool but the 12 game stretch for the Admiral in 1994 is freaking insane!
In the past, americans see playing in europe a disavantage in comparisson to anything happening to rookies in USA. Now they talk of playing in europe as a way to say "oh well, he is not really a rookie" and again playing in europe became a disavantage in the other way around.
Best rookie season by all metrics taken into account was by the Admiral, David Robinson
he was like 24 tho
@@cyprienpaillerets2999 true, but the vast majority of rookies who put up All-Star or all NBA numbers are in their early to mid 20s. That’s why, historically, rookies tend to be better when upperclassman were the only ones to declare for the draft. Hell, the second best rookie season of all time belong to Tim Duncan, who was 22.
So while being 24 doesn’t take away from David Robinson‘s rookie year, imagine if Michael Jordan had been 24 his first rookie year. Imagine if Luka stayed playing in Europe till he was 24. The numbers they would have put up as rookies would be astronomical.
This honestly just makes wemby looks better, doing what he is at 20 is nuts@@gazorpagrantgaming7190
You def can’t question the Admirals rookie season but if you compare minutes, age and a couple other factors you still have to step back and be impressed by what Wemby is doing
@@hoop_plug to be honest, I think that’s fair. Especially when you take into account the minutes restriction that Wembanyama has. It’s tough to compare, rookie seasons from different eras. Robinson produced more statistically, but Wemby is on a minutes restriction and his per 36s are better. Robinson made all NBA was an All-Star, but the league was significantly less talented back then. Robinson also let his team to 56 wins, but his supporting cast was far better. So it’s tough.
I got the general ad featuring Shaq before this video😂😂😂
Winning finals MVP as a rookie won’t be topped. Magic will always have the best rookie season.
He wasn’t even the best rookie that year because of Bird, who was All-NBA first team and 4th in MVP voting
Magic wasn’t (close to being) the best player on his own team either
That game 6 might be the best game of his career so I think it shades a lot peoples perception of how good Magic was as a rookie and they think he was better than he was. Which was still *very* good but not on the level of Wilt, Russell, Oscar, Kareem, Bird, MJ and Duncan. And probably not Robinson or Shaq
Blocks were not recorded when Wilt and Kareem were rookies.
When they starting to record block in 1973, some mf already broke a record by 17 blocks in single game (still the most in NBA). Imagine if they were recorded it back then.
ur point is?
His point is probably that wemby is having a great rookie season by modern standards. @MikeLeTorres
Well yea. In the 60s n70s no one shot out from far so its much easier to get more blocks
@@thecodemongoose of course 60s and 70s are the best era.. today is trash... is that what it is?
With an asterisks
SATX in the house! Go Spurs Go
How was Paolo not in this he had a crazy rookie year last year too
Paolo was not the defensive force Wemby is during his rookie season.
@@RMASUPERFLY I feel like he gets a bad rap bc Jonathan issac comes in behind him. Paolo is a great defender jis just the best defender in the league coming I. Behind him
@@matthewadkins7973Numbers don’t lie!
It would be great to see Tacko Fall and Wemby to play against each other.
And this video was made before he just dropped a 40-20 game 😭 and just against GSW had a 32-9 and 4 steals 3 blocks game it’s crazy
🤷🏽♂️
There's been better rookies before, but at 20 years old I don't think there's been a better first-year player to come into the league at his age.
🌌🛸👽🌎🏀😯😳😲🇫🇷 I think Lebron Shaq MJ Larry Magic n' Kareem were more impactful as rookies but for sure Victor belongs to their Galaxy ! Top 10 all time !
Wemby is the NBA’s Messi
It's all about team wins. The Spurs aren't winning that much. But Webby is definitely a great player.
I’ll take Larry Joe Bird as the best post merger rookie.
Pre-merger it’s gotta be Wilt
Duncan. It’s Tim Duncan
Bro quoted foot on the line
You got to be joking. Fucking wes Unseld won the MVP his rookie season. Damn you guys seriously need to get your shit together. Great season.. sure.. Best ever? Give me a break.. his teams won like 12 games.
Luka Doncic 21.2 - 7.8 - 6.0
Completely disregarding Wilt! He had the best ever rookie season, winning the ROTY and MVP at the same time. Had blocks and steals were recorded back then' he would've had the numbers. Still, as a rookie, Chamberlain averaged 37.6 points and 27.0 rebounds, More than anyone before or after hime, and actually, nobody else, rookie or not ever had or came close to those numbers.
People always forget Wilt for some reason. If anything, Wemby's success demonstrates how Wilt would have fared in today's NBA: he was almost as long as Wemby (wingspan of 7'8" as opposed to 8') and was stronger, faster, and could jump better. While there's a LOT of BS out there about Wilt's physical gifts, it IS indisputably true that they changed the free throw rules so that Wilt wouldn't be allowed to dunk them.
@@brandontingley7059 As far as I understood, they changed the law so that you'd have to stay behind the free throw line until the ball hits the rim, because Wilt would throw it and then run inside and dunk it, not because he would dunk from the free throw line
@@thanhhoainguyen3458 I've seen it several places that it was because he could dunk his free throws. Check out a video titled "Tex Winters explains two Wilt Chamberlain stories"
The reason Wilt is not mentioned much is because of the time he did it in the league. There weren't a lot of teams back then. There were not so many games to be played in a season back then and there wasn't definitely a lot of talent back then. Wilt was playing against amateurs. As in average players while he was one of the rare superstars in the league at the time. U ppl clearly overlook these facts over and over.💯😂 Then wonder why he is not mentioned as much. Lol, and for ppl to compare old basketball to new basketball is just stupid. Different rules, different styles of play, different coaching schemes, and a lot more All stars and talent in today's NBA then back then. Don't get triggered by facts😁🍻✌🏾
you forgot about Tim Duncan?
Best, no. Great? Yes
Wilt scored 38 pts a game his rookie season.
Wilt...end of discussion
My question is: Has anyone who have put up comparable numbers done it on such an awful team? And that's not me saying he's doing this in spite of his team, but perhaps because of.
wilt had 37.6 ppg with 27 rpg, won mvp as rookie
Magic won a chip..Finals MVP
with all of those stats but his team only won 15 games? even ben simmons had a better impact for 76ers on his rookie season
Spurs have an even worse record with the "greatest rookie in history" than the previous year without him. Yesterday they won against the Suns... when Wembi didn't play.
Chet being a key piece in the best team in the west being completely ignored.
Wembi has fantastic potential, but the marketing hype strikes hard on this one.
L ad
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Wemby is nowhere NEAR the best, or approaching top 1o, rookie season ever!!
First off, you cannot count raw #s between eras. When the rules & enforcement are so lax for offense, the counting stats are meaningless to judge for good anyone is between eras!
Next, it is not a discerning way to evaluate how good anyone is just to pile up stats.
Any scien-terrific measure of efficiency & how productive anyone is MUST measure not only turnovers but shooting %.
looking at MEANINGFUL measures of total accomplishments: Value Over Replacement Player & WIn Shares-& you want to adjust for limited playing time? WS per 48!
Box +/- & impact measures: sabermetrics stats.
So Win Shares per 48? .076.
This is several TIMES less actual contributions to wins as the very best guys, who approach & top .300.
LeBron also did not have a superb rookie year: but if Wemby can be as dramatically improved next year as James was as a sophomore, then he that will mean a lot.
He is having a GOOD year: for a rookie.
An excellent year for anyone on something that adds value but not nearly as much as offense: his defense.
kinda plagiarizing Legend of Winning, no?
Spurs has 15 wins this season lol.
Spurs have more wins last year without wemby.
This guy being hyped too much this season
Magic won a chip lol. Mvp of finals
17 wins lol. Jabar team went from 17 wins to 58 wins. 3rd in the east. Grow up.